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jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:08, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

"They" Vs "He or She"

Wouldn't "he or she" be more proper? I know "they" for a singular is common, but wouldn't fully proper English be better?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 01:00, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

please write a 5-paragraph essay on how this is more "proper"
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 01:06, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Well, one can't say "They goes". They say "They go". One doesn't say "Bob have". They say "Bob has". There needs to be subject-verb agreement. Read this. If you start a sentence with a singular subject of unspecified gender like "A person", "he or she" must be used instead of "they", because "they" refers to multiple people, while "a person" is just one. Most common error probably found in the whole English language.
Therefore, instead of "A person cannot eat lava because they will get hot", it must be "A person cannot eat lava because he or she will get hot" since "they" would refer to many people getting hot, and the subject is singular. Another alternative to "he or she" is using "one", as in "One cannot eat lava because one will get hot" instead of "One cannot eat lava because he or she will get hot". Both are proper, but the first sentence saves two words. But "they" can only be used with a plural subject.
Maybe check out this, too. Oh, and read the first example in this.
To add on to all of that, think of it this way. Since a pronoun replaces a noun, you should be able to replace the pronoun with the antecedent and obtain the same logical meaning from a sentence. For example, the incorrect sentence of "A person cannot see where they are walking" the word "they" should be capable of being replaced by its antecedent, which is "people" since "they" represents many. Therefore, the sentence reads: "A person can cannot see.where the people [instead of "a person"] is walking" is incorrect in its rooted form.
Another example situation of this would be "The toddler yelled because they were frustrated", in which being replaced with the antecedent would read "The toddler yelled because the toddlers were frustrated", which isn't correct, because "the toddlers" should be one, individual toddler. The same distinction between "they" and "he or she" is consistent with "their" and "his or her". Such as in "A person cannot see his or her forehead" instead of "their" forehead.
Yes, using "they" sounds better, but it's actual form of incorrect English. The example sentence from purdueowl.org reads:
If a student parks a car on campus, he or she has to buy a parking sticker.
(INCORRECT: If a student parks a car on campus, they have to buy a parking sticker.)
But the justification of the pronouns is needed for more full understanding and flow of the sentence. The mistakes are tricky to find, but once one gets used to the proper subject-verb pronoun agreement, he or she will find the mistakes in a snap. Hope that helps! :)

Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 01:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
It's not an error anymore; "they" is an acceptable singular third person pronoun, except in some formal specifications. "They" is what is said by 99% of the people I've ever heard speak English; next to no-one uses "he or she", except in some formal writing specifications. English is not a standardised language like Spanish or French, so there technically aren't any rules, unless you settle on a specific set (and we at the wiki haven't). In addition, "they" includes persons who don't identify as male or female.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 02:37, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
Whoah, nice essay! But I'm pretty sure what veggie has noted above is correct.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:05, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Ask Me On My Talk Page Before Undoing Revisions By Me

Also, You Can't Delete My Template Called Extpages And Then Say, "EP is for downloadables mainly". Also, External Programs Template Doesn't Mean Anything If You Say, "Oh, That Website Is Safe". So I'll Revert Your Edit For Now, Until You Get Back To Me. Don't Reply, Tell Me On My Talk Page, So I'll Get A Message. Speaking Of Talk Pages, Did You Clean Yours Out? There's Very Few Comments For An Admin.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs)

Well, It Means Nothing If There Is Such A Thing As An Exception. So "Bold, Revert, Discuss" I'll Revert Your Edits Until You Get Back To Me.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 23:43, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
Not true—it is mainly to notify users of the risk involved with external programs, or links that have frequently changing content that may be hijacked to contain malicious code. Exceptions are okay as long as the link has been well-reviewed.
In addition, that's not how BRD works. The reversion is supposed to happen once; otherwise anyone can and will revert and then it will end up in an edit war and probably get the page temporarily locked. If you want it changed back to your version, you need to explain why.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 00:17, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Re: Warning

I'm sorry I broke the rules. Please don't ban me! :P</funny> Thanks. I have too much free time, and I enjoy using [partially] my code.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:44, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

"If I leave a message on your user talk, I expect you to reply on your user talk" -- from the header on this page. :P
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 15:01, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
But the header on jvvg's page says the opposite! :O
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 15:23, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
I prefer that users keep any discussion on their talk page to their talk page. Only if it's an incredibly urgent reply that I have to see first thing when I log in should you reply on my talk. ;)
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:38, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Forgot something

I think you forgot to add {{Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archives}} to your latest archive.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 19:48, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

Opps. I was in a rush. I'll fix that right now...
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 01:03, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Please protect a page for me

Please protect the page User talk:jvvg/Archive 1 for me. Thanks!
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:28, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Scratch Extension Protocol

Yes, for most articles the version isn't in the title in order to avoid confusing people. However, technical articles like Scratch File Format are extremely version-dependent, so it's important to be aware which version you're reading about. They're also extremely likely to change in new versions.

I don't think I can do a proper move, because I'm not an admin. Please could you do it? :)
blob8108 (talk | contribs) 01:29, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! :)
blob8108 (talk | contribs) 19:19, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

No probs.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 19:52, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Please undelete FutureSight Technologies

Please undelete that page. I don't know why it was deleted (no reason is provided in the deletion log), but it is still active.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:09, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Collaboration pages are no longer allowed on the Scratch Wiki due to community consensus.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 05:41, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
If you would like the contents of the page, we can give it it you in a sandbox.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:15, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
I must have missed that post. In that case, yes, can you please send me the contents?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 13:27, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Thank you!
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:20, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 21:53, 4 December 2013 (UTC)


I know i could have deleted it, but i wanted to give it a bit more time for an argument. But it's fine.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:17, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

If you mark something for deletion, it will be deleted pretty much without question. Someone can always ask for it back (which I doubt anybody would have done).
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 14:46, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Lowercase does Work

Lowercase does work for redirects. You just spelled it wrong :P
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 02:24, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 15:14, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Front Page

The Date For The Latest Announcement Should Be December 7, Not 9. For One, That's When It Was Announced, And 2, It's Only December 8.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 14:51, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 15:15, 8 December 2013 (UTC)