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Topic?
What is the topic? It is here (Open in new tab!) and the template is Here. What is it supposed to be? 
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 16:19, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- The topic itself is about a more efficient way of managing the multiple Scratch Wikis at once; the template is meant to be a handy indicator of the status of each topic on my talk, but that idea fell through.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:11, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Your Status
Are you going to update your signature sometime soon? 
Jammum (talk | contribs) 17:23, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- :waitwhat: 17:29, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
- My status or my signature? kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:02, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
- Your status. I got a bit mixed up when I posted the first post in this topic.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 16:01, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- I think I updated my status somewhat recently. I'm not sure though. But really, I update my status when I feel like it. It'll get updated when it's updated. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:58, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- I think I updated my status somewhat recently. I'm not sure though. But really, I update my status when I feel like it. It'll get updated when it's updated.
- Your status. I got a bit mixed up when I posted the first post in this topic.
- My status or my signature?
<noinclude> tags
DoneSo, I have found many pages that in the editor have these tags: <noinclude>. What do these do?
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch
23:26, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- This might help ;) https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Transclusion#Partial_transclusion
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 23:35, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Yup! Thanks! Done
- Yup! Thanks!
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch
23:40, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank You!
Hello Kenny2scratch and thank you for accepting me to be a Scratch Wiki Editor, many thanks, jjbullet
JJBullet (talk | contribs) 08:59, 28 November 2018 (UTC)JJBullet
- Hi JJBullet,
- No problem! I'm glad you were able to finish the process. I have a few tips for you regarding talk page conventions:
- Sign your name with four tildas (
~~~~, don't put your name after it). This will automatically insert your signature and a timestamp. - Though you haven't encountered it yet, I'm sure you'll reply to a post eventually, so when you do, add a colon (
:) at the start of each line of your reply. If your reply is the second reply, add two colons, and so on.
- Sign your name with four tildas (
- See Help:Welcome/4 for a more extensive initial guide on talk page conventions. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 11:34, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
My minisig
I don't get why you had replaced the space with the break tag on my minisig. Why is this? 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 20:03, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- A <br> tag will cause the signature to break onto a line with the same indentation level (like my signature does here). The newline very would always be at the root indentation level since it would get transcluded as
:Message
{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}} ~~~~~
- That's the significance. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:39, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oooohhh, thanks for the knowledge! 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 03:53, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Ken Can you at least ask the user if you can edit their page rather than just butting in? For your information, wiki policies apply to you too. 19:46, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- I let ken on this topic in the CP 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 21:30, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
- I let ken on this topic in the CP
- @Ken Can you at least ask the user if you can edit their page rather than just butting in? For your information, wiki policies apply to you too.
- Oooohhh, thanks for the knowledge!
Hi!
Hello! I am fairly new, so can you help me make a sidebar and decorate my user page? Thanks! 
Maskedmaruder (talk | contribs) 16:59, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, I am not Ken, but essentially you need to make a table and give the properties of
position:fixed;left:0;bottom:0
This will make the position fixed towards the screen rather than relative to the page. The '0' also is how far from the bottom/left it is. You can use pixels or whole numbers. 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 17:36, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
Snap! article
Hi there. To answer your question, I'm 70. So it's hard for me to type a period without automatically adding two spaces. (And, by the way, my phone puts in the period if I type two spaces, and I'm betting your phone does, too.)
If you don't mind, I'm going to try to get the content right before I think about formatting/style issues. That's how I always write papers: Get the content there, then edit. This shouldn't take too much time; I'm up to the current version of Snap!.
About articles about mods: I wasn't part of the discussion so I'm not sure what that rule is trying to achieve. And I'm worried that what I'm about to say might be viewed as trying to pull rank, which is not my intention at all. But Snap! isn't any old mod. (Technically, it's not a mod at all, since the implementation is no longer based on Scratch's code.) We have a strong presence at the Scratch conferences, especially the European ones. We are the reason Scratch now allows custom blocks; I personally am the reason Scratch's custom blocks allow inputs. (When they were discussing how they wanted to design that feature, they were talking about not allowing inputs, and I said "how would that differ from Broadcast and wait?" And there was a round of "oh yeah huh.") So I think Scratch users might want to know about Snap!.
Having said that, it's your wiki, and I'm not desperate to keep the article. I'm saving a copy offline; it's something we need for high school students (and sometimes teachers) in our course who say "why are we learning this baby language?" but as you say we can host it ourselves. I started this revision because someone complained on our forum thread about the out-of-date header on the page.
Hey, does zebra coloring:
work for color blind people? (Alternating light and dark green.)
Bharvey (talk | contribs) 20:45, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
- Alright, first off, let me say I'm guilty of assuming too much and being a little too direct. I apologize for that.
- I didn't actually realize you were still not done with content - if you plan to fix minor things once you're done, then that's great, thank you.
- I know of Snap's role (hope you don't mind me omitting the exclamation point, but it really gets cumbersome to type) in Scratch culture, and I'm glad you cleared up its status as mod/not mod. "I'm not sure what that rule is trying to achieve": essentially, Scratch mods, though obvious based off of Scratch, aren't entirely related or impactful. Obviously with Snap this isn't true, so I doubt that it would be deleted even if we deleted the less impactful ones, but I just wanted to give you fair warning in case we really decided to crack the whip. Sorry if I didn't really make that clear. A backup is a good idea, though unnecessary if you also decide to host it yourselves.
- I also want to let you know that even if it becomes the case that the Snap article is no longer allowed, I (or you) can move it into your userspace (i.e. a subpage of your own userpage) where guidelines are far more relaxed. Then it would still be preserved.
- Responding to individual quotes
- "someone complained on our forum thread about the out-of-date header": and I'm glad you started the revision, because it really was out of date.
- "To answer your question": I only said I didn't know, I never actually asked
but thank you for clearing up just who I'm talking to. - "my phone puts in the period if I type two spaces": Most phones actually replace two spaces with a period and a space, rather than inserting a period before the two spaces, as far as I know.
- "I'm betting your phone does": You've lost your bet, but not because it doesn't, but rather because I, surprising as it may seem, do not have a phone.
- "how I always write papers": Ah, yes, "write papers" in the present tense. Just a friendly comment that writing papers isn't an everyday activity for most :P
- "Scratch users might want to know about Snap": Yes, I agree, which is why I'd never support a deletion if it was proposed, but there's always the possibility.
- "it's your wiki": this kind of makes me uncomfortable, because the Wikis are more of an oligarchy than a dictatorship (I am not the only admin). Also, the editors do play a more important part than the admins, so in most senses it's actually your wiki.
- "does zebra coloring...work for color blind people?": Yes! That's a feature I've always loved about Snap. Though I do want to comment on the block category colors... at least for my type of color blindness, Motion and Looks look very similar (in all versions of Scratch and Snap). Incidentally, where did you find out about my colorblindness? I know I mention it on my userpage but I just want to know where you saw it first.
- Finally, just an FYI on Wiki custom: usually, unless the poster asks otherwise, you respond to messages on your talk page, on your talk page, as I am doing here. Only after they don't reply for a while do you give them a ping on their talk page. More about talk page customs here: Help:Talk Pages. (You joined the Wiki before the Help:Welcome tutorial existed, so you could also try quickly reading through that as a refresher.) kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 11:25, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
Boldface in the ToC
So, the reason I boldfaced some of the headings was so that the ToC would highlight the most important parts (given that the page is pretty long). It's particularly important because the overall organization is chronological. I followed the existing structure of the article in that, because people seemed interested to know, for example, that BYOB1 was based on Scratch 1.3, and BYOB2 on Scratch 1.4. But the things we're proud of are first class procedures, first class lists, and so on. Is there a better way to accomplish that goal? Bharvey (talk | contribs) 07:13, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hm, I see. I think your way was the best, in that case. Though I'd recommend merely bolding, and not italicizing (as you did) the important titles.
- My main concern is that bolding certain headings casts a shadow on the other ones - it raises a question like "why are the 2nd- and 3rd-level headings not bolded but the 4th-level ones are?". Do you think bolding all higher-level headings would work, or just bolding the important subheadings anyway? kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 11:34, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- No, the whole point of the bolding is that it's a different dimension from the levels. The 2nd level is the chronology, but what's important is some of the 3rd level, which is the actual features. Bharvey (talk | contribs) 21:07, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
- I think I didn't express myself clearly - what I meant was that it would be somewhat confusing as to why lower-level headings would have a higher importance than higher-level headings. (I know that the higher-level headings are merely for organization, which is the reason there; it's just that readers may not immediately realize that.) But that's a minor concern and it shouldn't stop you from bolding the important headings, so go ahead. (But again, no italics please! Bold and italics are very rarely used together on wikis.) kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:47, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
- I think I didn't express myself clearly - what I meant was that it would be somewhat confusing as to why lower-level headings would have a higher importance than higher-level headings. (I know that the higher-level headings are merely for organization, which is the reason there; it's just that readers may not immediately realize that.) But that's a minor concern and it shouldn't stop you from bolding the important headings, so go ahead. (But again, no italics please! Bold and italics are very rarely used together on wikis.)
- No, the whole point of the bolding is that it's a different dimension from the levels. The 2nd level is the chronology, but what's important is some of the 3rd level, which is the actual features.
Conciousness
Can you make your Conciousness easier to understand? I don't understand how to convert it for my time. 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 19:46, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- Because Ken is awesome he made it so it changes based on the day of the week using the magic word {{CURRENTDOW}}, but for simple cases (where you go to bed at the same time every day) you can use this:
{{#ifexpr:{{CURRENTHOUR}}>=<!--YOUR BEDTIME-->|[[File:Moon icon.png|20px|link=]]{{nbsp}}Asleep|{{#ifexpr:{{CURRENTHOUR}}>=<!--WHEN YOU WAKE UP-->|[[File:Sun.png|20px|link=]]{{nbsp}}Awake}}}}
- Basically, you first need to convert the time you go to bed and the time you wake to UCT 24 hour for it to work properly. I'll explain the code for you as well.
- First it checks to see if the current hour is greater than or equal to your bedtime. If it is then it will show the moon icon with the word asleep with a Non-breaking space in between. If it is not then it checks if the current hour is greater than or equal to when you wake up. If it is then it will display the sun icon with the word awake with a Non-breaking space in between. If it is not then you are using a clock with negative numbers! Hope that helped! Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:00, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- It doesn't work...
{{#ifexpr:{{CURRENTHOUR}}>=4|[[File:Moon icon.png|20px|link=]]{{nbsp}}Asleep|{{#ifexpr:{{CURRENTHOUR}}>=12|[[File:Sun.png|20px|link=]]{{nbsp}}Awake}}}}It shows nothing...(look at my sandbox) 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 03:02, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for reminding me about it! I've made the page easier to figure out (see source code) and reimplemented it on my userpages. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:10, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- Why did you add this:
{{CURRENTHOUR}} + 8in your expression? 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 03:22, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- My timezone is UTC+8 and 23 is the hour in UTC. Ergo, add 8 to get my time. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:27, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- So, the offset of UTC and the timezone I live in right? What if it becomes a negative number(my case) or higher than 24(your case)? 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 03:29, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- So, the offset of UTC and the timezone I live in right? What if it becomes a negative number(my case) or higher than 24(your case)?
- My timezone is UTC+8 and 23 is the hour in UTC. Ergo, add 8 to get my time.
- Why did you add this:
- Thanks for reminding me about it! I've made the page easier to figure out (see source code) and reimplemented it on my userpages.
- It doesn't work...
Still isn't working... You can help me here. Just tell me what you did to fix it. 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 03:38, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
- You have a point about the OOB problem - I've fixed that on my own consciousness thing. I recommend you re-copy it over.
- I'm not entirely sure, but I suspect you don't go to sleep at 4pm and wake up at 2am? The
(({{CURRENTHOUR}} + 8) mod 24)part is meant to change the UTC time generated by CURRENTHOUR to HKT, my own timezone, so that I can put in the actual hour values after the comparison. Put your own sleeping and waking time (24-hour format, FYI) into the part after the > or <. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:05, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
Compressing?
How do you compress without cropping an image? 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 20:11, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
- You can use https://tinypng.com/ (Also works with jpgs) Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:19, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
- Install pngquant.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:35, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'd recommend an online service (tinypng FTW) over a local thing since that means you don't have to install anything :) kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:47, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- I'd recommend an online service (tinypng FTW) over a local thing since that means you don't have to install anything :)
"Mouse Talk" Thing
Woah, the thing where you can "talk" through the mouse cursor is really cool! How do you do that? I'll of course give credit to you :)
-unsigned comment by cinnamon_bun_puff (talk | contribs)
<div title="MOUSE TEXT">CONTENT YOU WANT IT TO SHOW ON</div>
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 02:47, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- ^ kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:58, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- ^
Github
Hey, so I joined github (me) and I was wondering two things:
- PMs?
- Where's your website? I want to see it for inspiration.
- Why do you need multiple branches? I understand the read me and the branch for commits, but why more?
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 03:11, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, found for 2 of the questions...
- How did you make the website?
- PMs?
- 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 03:27, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- PMs: no. No such thing.
- Where's my website: hosted, https://kenny2github.github.io or repo, https://github.com/Kenny2github/kenny2github.github.io
- How did I make the website: I learned a smack of HTML and CSS, and used it there. I don't update my website with any real frequency though.
- Hope that gives some kind of an answer. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:36, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- I meant talking/commenting on profile
- I do know a lot of HTML, but how do I get the website hosted by github?
- 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 14:01, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- GitHub doesn't have profile comments
- Add an "index.html" file in a repository called "12944qwerty.github.io" (that must be the name or it won't work). After a few minutes, going to https://12944qwerty.github.io will show that index.html file.
- kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:22, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Ok, what about non-user websites? Also, how would I make a 'template file'. For example, I would put some code for like the header and then call it header.html. Then later, I put it into index.html. Do I have to copy and paste or is there a shorter way? 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 14:33, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Unfortunately there aren't templates in HTML. However, multiple pages can include the same CSS, so styling is easier. I recommend simply doing without a header, or if necessary just have every page link to the homepage to navigate from there. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:17, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- Unfortunately there aren't templates in HTML. However, multiple pages can include the same CSS, so styling is easier. I recommend simply doing without a header, or if necessary just have every page link to the homepage to navigate from there.
- Ok, what about non-user websites? Also, how would I make a 'template file'. For example, I would put some code for like the header and then call it header.html. Then later, I put it into index.html. Do I have to copy and paste or is there a shorter way?
templates? use JS. 
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 04:11, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- ? 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 13:58, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
Image.
Can you delete this: File:12944qwerty Logo.jpg I changed it to another file: File:12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 15:07, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- I put a colon between [[ and File, it's so huge!
- Just put {{detete}} to things to be deleted. Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 22:52, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- Done, in the future put this kind of thing on Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests thx kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:50, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Sig Warner
The sig warner that you added into the Mediawiki:common.js doesn't work. If you looked at the changes I made for this revision, I had forgot to sign the above section and it didn't warn me. 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 15:07, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed now, there were a bunch of issues with the way I checked if the script had already been included. It didn't work for me either, but after testing my recent changes the prompt came up properly again. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:49, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
I didn't know that the Scratch Wiki was changing domain name!
^
Plus, I think the old domain should redirect to the new one if it hasn't already. Jammum (talk | contribs) 10:26, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- It's not. This is only temporary while we contact provider support to change the domain names back. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:28, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Are you ready?
Are you ready for Scratch 3.0? Jammum (talk | contribs) 11:18, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- At this point, not really. It's nearly 9PM and I have school tomorrow. I will most likely only be able to start helping out on the weekend. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:44, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Confirm Request
I have a question for conforming requests, Is there something that I need to know because when I tried to go to the link it said permission error.
Blueberry_17 (talk | contribs) 14:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- In the wiki, there are groups. Since you are a new user you are part of the New Wikian group, the lowest. I am in the Wikian group, the one you will join as soon as your account is older than 30 days and has more than 50 edits. People can also be in multiple groups. For example, Ken is in bureaucrat, admins, and experienced wikian.
- The list of groups are:
- New Wikians
- Wikians
- Admins
- Experienced Wikians
- Bureaucrats
- Robots (do automated jobs)
- For the rights that each of the groups have look here
- For the reason you can't confirm requests is because only EWs and Bureaucrats can accept requests.
- If you have any questions, feel free! 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 15:21, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- There is no "lowest" or "highest" group - New Wikians are just as important as bureaucrats. I have a few extra privileges, but that doesn't make me necessarily more important than new users. However, it is true that only Experienced Wikians and bureaucrats are able to confirm account requests - it's not something we can trust to all users, unfortunately, as there would be too much nepotism going on that we wouldn't be able to prevent. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:11, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- There is no "lowest" or "highest" group - New Wikians are just as important as bureaucrats. I have a few extra privileges, but that doesn't make me necessarily more important than new users. However, it is true that only Experienced Wikians and bureaucrats are able to confirm account requests - it's not something we can trust to all users, unfortunately, as there would be too much nepotism going on that we wouldn't be able to prevent.
Chinese?
Do you know simple or traditional chinese? (just wondering)
(I am planning on learning chinese. All I know is '你好'.(hover) 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 00:38, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- He writes traditional Chinese because he is in Hong Kong.(btw He also speaks Cantonese.) Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 01:51, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- As my userpage says, I speak English, Cantonese, and Mandarin (in descending order of fluency) and I read/write English and Traditional Chinese.
- 你好 is more of a generic greeting than "hi", it means something more along the lines of "hey how are you" (character for character, it means "you good", so maybe the closest analogy would be "you good?") kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:10, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, I was using Duolingo, thats what they told me. 12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 14:39, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Ok, I was using Duolingo, thats what they told me.
3.0 Articles
Can you change Scratch Versions so it matches the 3.0 article? 
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:55, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:21, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Name Question
So, I've noticed that you do not want to be called "Kenny" due to it bringing back a "triggering memory". If it isn't too personal, why don't you want to be called that, and why don't you make at least a new Scratch account (since you can't have a second Wiki one), or even request for an ST member to change your name (if you explain the situation)? I know that you are okay with "Ken" or "Kenny2Scratch" (I saw your program, amazing by the way!), so why is an "ny" different? Sorry if there are too many questions, don't answer if you don't want to. But please respond on my talk page if possible :) 
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 02:19, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Replied kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:19, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
