If you leave me a disrespectful message, do not expect a response and expect to see your message deleted.
If I made a mistake, of any kind whatsoever (assume good faith), please post your view calmly and collectedly.
Think about your post before posting.
I welcome all questions — Wiki-/Scratch-related questions and personal/offtopic questions are equally welcome here.
When referring to me, please make sure the name you use matches this regex: https://regex101.com/r/QSyeGl/7 - examples of OK and NOT OK names are shown in the "insert test string" box. If you're unsure, just use one of the "OK" examples.
For reference, revision 329805 was done by 7salad3salad on 13/09/2023
I'm not ken but I believe as long the bot can compress more than 10% of the file and it doesn't have any form of "compress" in the edit summary, it will compress it. TheTrillion • Talk • 2,624 contributions • Scratch 22:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
^ They're right. Make sure to only include "compressed" in the edit summary if you have actually compressed the image, though. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 22:01, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
When a Bureaucrat leaves the Wiki, do they give up their roles to another user?
Not kenny2scratch, but no, roles are not transferred to other users. Generally when users with elevated permissions (EWs, admins, etc.) leave they retain their permissions. If the rest of the Wiki administration did decide to revoke those permissions for any reason, they would not be transferred to any other user. jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:44, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
Elections are held when we (the existing EW+) determine they are needed, which does not necessarily (and often does not) coincide with anyone leaving. However, elections are only to elect new EWs; admins and bureaucrats are appointed and those appointments sometimes coincide with elections but sometimes don't, and the appointees are usually existing EWs (for admins) and admins (for bureaucrats). Unlike elections for EW, there is no self-nomination process for appointments to admin or bureaucrat, the decision is made solely by the existing administration. jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:13, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
Compressing picture files
I keep being told to use tinypng to compress pictures before uploading, so I tried it, and tinypng gives me a zip file, which the uploader refuses to upload. What am I doing wrong? Thanks! (You might want to make the place on the upload page that mentions tinypng clearer, too; I can't be the only confused editor.) Bharvey (talk | contribs) 07:40, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
So, when I try to upload an image that is 6kb, it keeps saying that "You must enter a comment when uploading a new version of a file or editing a file page. You must also include a category when uploading new files." Either I don't understand that (I probably don't lol), and if a comment is the same thing as adding a summary for an image, then I already did that but it still refuses to let me upload. Is this normal (doubt it) or is there something up?
Superseed16 (talk | contribs) 00:35, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
I looked at the history entry, and you indeed forgot a category. You need to include one like this: [[Category:CATEGORY NAME]]. If the file is for use in your userpage, use Users' Images, otherwise look at Special:CategoryTree to find the category you need. jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:31, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Recently, I created some redirects, but TemplatesFTW added a space after the # to "fix a style guideline". I think this is happening because "redirect" wasn't capitalized on the redirects. Can you fix it? CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,237 edits | Scratch 17:36, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
So, you created TemplatesFTW which is a pywikibot on discord, I'm trying to create my own bot also with pywikibot but I can't get it to function on scratch wiki, it only seems to work on wikipedia. In the select wiki interface it only shows up official wikimedia wikis (wikipedia, mediawiki, commons, wikidata, wikivoyage, etc). Could you give me some guide on how to do it?
TemplatesFTW is a confusing name, so let me break it down:
The bot named TemplatesFTW on the Scratch Wiki is not written with pywikibot, it uses my own library named mw-api-client. You can find the source code of my bot here, but note that it's a really poor-quality piece of code and is really only readable by me. Same goes for mw-api-client - please do not actually use that library if you want something that is up-to-date and not terribly written. mw-api-client was made for MW 1.28, and we are currently on 1.35.
The bot named TemplatesFTW on Discord provides some commands related to Scratch and the Wiki. It does not make edits, and its source code is private.
To answer your actual question, first you need to remember that the Scratch Wiki requires an account for editing. If you plan to make bot edits, you need to first request a bot account and have your bot approved before you even start coding.
@Purvitekrival: it's intentional, because that page is reserved as a boilerplate (as does most of the pages in Eng: namespace). ahmetlii TalkContributionsDirectory 13:26, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
Ok, But I wanted to translate to Hindi so how to do that and what is a boilerplate? Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 02:53, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
I meant that it's merely a template to fill out, by saying "boilerplate". BTW, it's been already created, and it's not something you have to be very concerned about as it's just for organizing the same language editors under a page with helpful links. You need to translate articles to Hindi as the primary goal (and then help pages or the pages related to how the wiki work, would be cool if you could also write some new pages that's not existing in the English version yet), and you can do that by translating pages in the wiki. (for example, by translating Scratch if not already translated) ahmetlii TalkContributionsDirectory 20:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
Is your Consciousness page outdated?
I do not know if it is abandoned or not or your sleeping patterns change every single moment, but it was last edited in 2019 and since then, you are now in Canada. Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:58, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Sorry I am completely not sure about the talk pages so I am definitely not sure if I should post these here, but the wiki project posting is just a "referencing" to it. The project is for demonstrating the note, and I will not cause ANY edit wars on the page, so you can still add anything to it - I won't be undoing your revision at this point. I'm not sure about how talk pages work, I'll read the article soon, but not now. Pizza0430 (talk | contribs) 09:54, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
I don't have any problem with the contents of your edit - but in your edit summary, you said "please DO NOT UNDO THIS REVISION". There are a few problems with that:
On a more general level, typing in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS on the internet indicates you are shouting. This, combined with the fact that you are bluntly telling people what to do, without the authority to expect obedience, makes the edit summary impolite at best and disrespectful at worst; which is a violation of Scratch Community Guidelines.
On a more specific level, the Wiki is not yours, and anyone is allowed to undo anyone's edit (except undoing someone else's undo is only allowed after discussion, per S:BRD).
Beyond this, jvvg's message and my message to you were because you showed a pattern of anti-BRD behavior. In case this was due to ignorance of the rules, I'd like to ask you to read through the Wiki guidelines before continuing to edit. Thank you! kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 03:10, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Okay, first of all, I just really want to say I love the way you handle your user pages. Lovely. Also: Hello, Kenny2scratch! As an editor who has yet to participate in the discussion, you are invited to participate in the discussion at Talk:Kaj. This is not mandatory, but your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, and have a good day! Thanks for signing up for the Discussion Invitation System. By providing your thoughts, you're making the Scratch Wiki a better place! If you no longer wish to receive these messages, just remove your name from the list. Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk | contribs) 02:13, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Hello! I've got a question about wiki bans. I'd encountered a user who was banned on Scratch, but not on the wiki, and I asked a user if that kind of user should be banned on the wiki. He said no, because Scratch bans are not related to wiki bans. He linked me to a wiki article for more info.
On that article, I found this:
If you are blocked on the Scratch Website, you cannot request to be unblocked on the Wiki until you are unblocked on the Scratch Website.
I wonder why that would be the case, since Scratch bans aren't related to wiki bans. I asked the user about it, and he said it was likely outdated. He came back a few days later, saying it's still a rule, but he couldn't explain why it's a rule. Could you explain? Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk | contribs) 00:36, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Generally, if someone is blocked on Scratch then we take that as a good sign that it's not a good idea to unblock them here, because it indicates their behavior is pervasive and likely to continue here if we unblock them, thus making it harder to justify unblocking them if they haven't succeeded in a mainsite appeal. Additionally, while it's not common, we sometimes block people here because they're blocked on Scratch and have carried their drama here, which is an obvious reason to not allow a Wiki unblock until they've been unblocked on Scratch.
A lot of rules regarding blocks on the Wiki are unwritten and just general practice by incumbent bureaucrats. What I've said above is unlikely to change, but it may if there is reason for such change in the future. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 16:30, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
Hello, Kenny2scratch! As an editor who has yet to participate in the discussion, you are invited to participate in the discussion at Talk:Scratch Writing Camp. This is not mandatory, but your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, and have a good day! Thanks for signing up for the Discussion Invitation System. By providing your thoughts, you're making the Scratch Wiki a better place! If you no longer wish to receive these messages, just remove your name from the list. Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 15:53, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Just FYI, the Test-Scratch-Wiki uses ISO 639-3 codes while assigning a namespace for a language. The only exceptions to this rule are twi:tw: code prefix (in ISO 639-2 format only) used for the Test Wiki mainspace while interwiki-linking from other wikis, and the former namespace naming practice based on ISO 639-2. However, the ISO 639-2 interwiki code of Test Wiki, tw, is reserved forTwi, which is actually a real language (but in Scratch Wiki it's specifically reserved for the Test Wiki); and all pages and namespaces have been moved into ISO 639-3 codes since this switch (noteworthy, they are still valid as interwiki link prefixes, but redirects to 3-letter, newer designations). ahmetlii TalkContributionsDirectory 22:02, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the notice. However, those images are there to preserve thumbnail sizes used for Wiki Wednesday posts, which I can't edit. Therefore I have to use the old image or risk breaking the old posts. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 06:43, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks. Then I will replace some of the old variable readout images with the new one if that's ok. -iviedwall-‖talkcontributions🐱 07:35, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
The sidebar was floating because of the position property: position: fixed; which fixes an element so that t doesn't move when you scroll a page. You can read more here. Hope this helps! -iviedwall-‖talkcontributions🐱 05:37, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
Another Discussion Invitation
Hello, Kenny2scratch! As an editor who has yet to participate in the discussion, you are invited to participate in the discussion at Template_talk:Welcome#Use_SVG_File?. This is not mandatory, but your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, and have a good day! Thanks for signing up for the Discussion Invitation System. By providing your thoughts, you're making the Scratch Wiki a better place! If you no longer wish to receive these messages, just remove your name from the list. Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 08:45, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, but don't do this again. I got scared thinking that someone whose account was already created had access to your request. I had a reminder to check Test wiki requests daily anyway. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 23:12, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Hello, Kenny2scratch! As an editor who has yet to participate in the discussion, you are invited to participate in the discussion at Talk:Abbreviations_on_the_Forums#Multiple_links. This is not mandatory, but your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, and have a good day! Thanks for signing up for the Discussion Invitation System. By providing your thoughts, you're making the Scratch Wiki a better place! If you no longer wish to receive these messages, just remove your name from the list. han614698talk • contribs • profile 14:44, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Once I posted the message above, I saw that your talk page said "Ooh, a new message from Han614698!". I was curious how that worked, so I wanted to see the code - I couldn't find it. Where can I find it? han614698talk • contribs • profile 14:47, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Hello, Kenny2scratch! As an editor who has yet to participate in the discussion, you are invited to participate in the discussion at Talk:Scratch Team#Removing Members. This is not mandatory, but your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, and have a good day! Thanks for signing up for the Discussion Invitation System. By providing your thoughts, you're making the Scratch Wiki a better place! If you no longer wish to receive these messages, just remove your name from the list. han614698talk • contribs • profile 22:30, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
How long does this bot take? I uploaded images almost 2 weeks ago, and it gave me a message today. han614698talk • contribs • profile 11:40, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Once again, I'm very sorry for what I did yesterday. What was your reasoning for undoing my outdent on vdiu's talk page? han614698talk • contribs • profile 13:33, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
Editing other people's talk page messages is a violation of userspace unless there are clear formatting errors that interfere with the topic (which there weren't - outdents aren't even suggested until six indent levels). Admittedly I should have undone that edit rather than rollbacking it. Apologies for that. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 17:45, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
According to the Welcome tutorial, it's "6 or 7". Realistically it's just whenever it feels like too many. And outdenting isn't a rule, it's just a suggestion - if you have whatever compelling reason not to outdent, even past 8 indents (though I can't imagine you would), you can just not. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 10:04, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Your "fix" was unnecessary, and the policy applies to formatting issues - i.e. only when the formatting itself is an issue, for example if it affects the readability of the topic. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 23:32, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
It's been a long time since I touched that script, but I believe all you can do is delete them all and re-add them. I made it mostly for my own use and that was an acceptable tradeoff at the time. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 14:39, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
I uploaded a file like 2 weeks ago and your bot TemplateFTW just notified me today. How long does it take to run? SpaghettiAG852097- (talk | contribs) 14:25, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
Oops, i didnt see that sorry i just clicked the "leave a message" button at the top when I got to your talk page. Also why shouldnt i view your userpage on a mobile device? I use a mobile device by the way SpaghettiAG852097- (talk | contribs) 03:34, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
I don't know if you're using a cron job for that, but that would remove the need to run manually. I don't know if you rather prefer to check it before running, though, given that it's a batch-processing task. ahmetlii TalkContributionsDirectory 16:08, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
Hello. Recently, I talked to jvvg about a small issue with your bot (detailed here). He had told me to contact you to look into getting it fixed, so this is my asking of you. As a not very technical person, I really don’t know what this involves, but please look into it. Thank you. han614698talk • contribs • profile 00:08, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
I saw on your userpage you were talking a lot about Dis-cord I don't think that Dis-cord is allowed, because according to the "be safe" rule on the community guidlines it says
"For safety reasons, don't give out any information that could be used for private communication"
Just wanted to let you know.... SpaghettiAG852097-talk • contribs • profile 16:24, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
You are correct, it’s not allowed. However I don’t think admins have to follow those rules. han614698talk • contribs • profile 17:12, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Yes, the rule is don't give out any information that could be used for private communication. I did not give out my Discord contact information - I only mention some things I've created that involve it, which in turn do not include contact information.
The Scratch Team pre-emptively remove all references to Discord because they're terrified of someone sharing contact information and subsequently something untoward happening; and because they do not have the resources to more closely police the boundary between mentioning it and actually sharing info.
We have a smaller userbase by virtue of our account request system and can more discretely enforce the difference.
My userpage does not violate rules - however if I had said "my username is notarealusername#0000" or something then that would be "giv[ing] out ... information that could be used for private communication".
Hello, Kenny2scratch! As an editor who has yet to participate in the discussion, you are invited to participate in the discussion at Talk:Animation Hall of Fame#New Name. This is not mandatory, but your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, and have a good day! Thanks for signing up for the Discussion Invitation System. By providing your thoughts, you're making the Scratch Wiki a better place! If you no longer wish to receive these messages, just remove your name from the list. SpaghettiAG852097-talk • contribs • profile 16:34, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
I do not know Telugu, so I do not have a sample page in Telugu for you. You can take a look at other languages' efforts, such as Turkish.
You absolutely can and should organize a group of people to help translate. You will need to direct them to request an account and instruct them on how to fill out the form, so that I can smoothly accept their requests.
Blocks in the Test Wiki has not been updated for Scratch 3.0. Because of that problem, I am not able to create Tel:బ్లాక్స్ for Scratch 3.0 Blocks. What do you suggest me to do?
You can directly use the English wiki page instead. Make sure to change links to Tel: pages (and templates to Tel/ templates, etc) as needed.
The Eng: namespace in the Test wiki has been in need of updating for a while; I started working on a bot to continuously update them back in 2018, but I never had the time to finish it. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 01:53, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
Error code: Prevent uploading huge files.
Hello. I compressed a image of Scratch Teams youtubr chanel once it said to compress. Now it says Prevent uploading huge files.. Could you fix it? Prevent uploading huge files.
Hi, please sign your posts with four tildas (~~~~).
The "huge files" blocker has to do with both file size and resolution. Looking at the logs, the image you were trying to upload was 2160×1422, which is much larger than the maximum 1920×1080 that we allow. Please reduce the resolution of your image.
I also noticed that you were trying to upload it under the name "UTube.jpeg". Please use more descriptive filenames, such as "Scratch Team YouTube Channel.jpg". Thanks. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 19:20, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
I'm so jealous of you professional wikian's profiles and signatures and whatnot... They have such fancy fonts and colors and all that, how do you even make all that?!?! 7salad3salad (talk | contribs) 13:49, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
I'm not sure what to say... it requires knowledge of CSS styling in HTML style="" attributes and how the inheritance of such plays out. Other than that it's just a matter of personal preference and design vision. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 14:14, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
It seems a lot more efficient than TinyPNG, because it just complained about six of the images and reduced them down further than TinyPNG did for me. So, what does it do? mybearworld • Talk • Contributions • Profile 05:06, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
It uses the TinyPNG API. Repeated compression can shave off some more filesize. If an image you upload is already compressed, mention that in your upload summary. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 05:17, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
Interesting, I didn't know it left kilobytes still left compressable. I'll mention it next time, thank you! mybearworld • Talk • Contributions • Profile 13:23, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
The "Featured Studios" image needs to be updated.
So you're the one who protected that image, right? Well, it should be updated to include the purple links. I made the needed image here. Also, somebody recently replaced my image with an assets.scratch.mit.edu link. I edited and compressed the image there, which can be found here. Which image is better? cutebross260IsBack ( Talk • Contribs • Scratch (BobRocks20) ) 02:23, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
Neither are fit for the TOC. The image needs to be cropped to the exact boundary of the box. The easiest way to do that is to use the "Capture node screenshot" command in developer tools. While you're at it, could you also update the rest of the TOC images with the purple link color? Thanks for your efforts. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 02:42, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
I fixed the signature.
I can understand why the second image doesn't fit the TOC; it's a smaller resolution. But I think the first one is okay, since I cropped it to the exact boundary of the box like you told me. Please elaborate on how it doesn't fit. Also, I tried the "Capture node screenshot" thing like you told me and I got this. Why is the right side cut off a bit? Is this normal? cutebross260IsBack ( Talk ⍨ Contribs ⍨ Scratch (BobRocks20) ) 03:24, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for fixing your signature. That takes up much less space now.
You're quite right that the first one is okay. Just make sure (or confirm) that it's undergone at least one pass of (lossless) compression and it's good to go.
If you can find/make updated versions of the rest of the TOC images in the exact same format as your first image, reupload those you can, and let me know here which ones you can't, I can reupload the ones you can't on your behalf, crediting you.
(You may also wish to ask on the S:CP why some are protected and not others. That's probably a wider discussion that needs to be had about whether they should all be protected or all open.)
Node screenshots are not supposed to cut off like that. That's either a browser bug or a one-time glitch.
Yes, my image went through the TinyPNG treatment. The original image I had was about 200 kilobytes or something like that.
All the TOC images I uploaded have been compressed, too; it should say so in their latest revision. The only image that doesn't say that it's compressed in its latest revision is the SDS one, but what I said about my "Featured Studios" image also applies to this one. They are also in a consistent length and width, so it doesn't look like they need updating. You can update the "Featured Studios" image now.
Oh and I found a fix for the bug! I had to hide the scroll bar with an extension to make it capture node screenshots correctly.
Uploaded your version. Thanks for your help! I surmise that this was the only image needing my intervention.
Good catch on the workaround to the screenshot issue. I suspect using developer tools to disable vertical overflow temporarily would have been a valid workaround too. (And perhaps that's all the extension did!)
I'm colorblind so I can't tell the difference in link colors between the old and new versions. Please verify for yourself that the TOC is now a consistent (and up-to-date) link color. Thanks again for the help! kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 03:25, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
Possibly one of the projects in that row for you has been marked NFE. I still see the row. kenny2scratchTalkContribsDirectory 17:28, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
I did some evaluating and it seems like this shows up for some older users but newer users will not see it. Since that is the case, I can see why "Projects by Scratchers I'm Following" is still up there. The original image is still not purple yet, though, so maybe it should be updated? cutebross260IsBack ( Talk ⍨ Contribs ⍨ Scratch (BobRocks20) ) 17:47, 31 July 2023 (UTC)