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Re: uploading

sorry. my computer went mad
Bbciplayer (talk | contribs) 17:29, 10 December 2013 (UTC)



re: please protect a page for me

Yes Done! Just keep in mind that you won't be able to edit it.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 23:45, 19 November 2013 (UTC)

Moving On

Yeah, it's fine that you undid my change. I just wrote that because those aren't the only fields in other software development, for example, Artificial Intelligence or Security. I think it should be changed back, or at least a note should be added :)
OrcaCat (talk | contribs) 00:16, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Have you seen this?
OrcaCat (talk | contribs) 00:05, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Re: FutureSight Technologies

User:Jvvg/FutureSight Technologies
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 14:42, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

delete this page please

[[1]] thanks!!!

KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:53, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

Dear Bot Owner:

Please make it so your bot (when active) skips pages with the template {{ NoBot }} on it. Thanks a lot!

KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:55, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

I apologize for editing your post, but if I didn't do that, my bot would ignore my user talk page, which would make testing difficult.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:40, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

test

I can help test your bots signing by putting hard to detect non signed comments and see if he can detect it! I have lots of ways to try and trick the bot, though :-)

KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 19:30, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

I turnednit to false. Its telling everyone to sign their post. Thanks

Sorry


KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 19:38, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

regex

Do you have a regular expression that detects the template NoBot in <nowiki> </nowiki> tags? Right now, the bot skips pages with the template on it, but, as you said earlier, I cant seem to make it ignore the template in nowiki. thank a lot!!!

KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:04, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

My code currently uses regex to find the number of nobots tags, and then uses another regex to find the number of nobots tags inside the nowiki tag. If the first is greater than the second, then it knows that the nobots tag is present. For a better explanation, see the code I am using.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:16, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks a lot!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:29, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for the inconvenience, but can you please change NoBot to NoBots? it was a minor bug that i cant seem to change in my bot- thanks!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:07, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Ok, done. You should also notify Blob8108.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:13, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Forum Smiley - Rolleyes.png my bot malfunctioned and edited lots of template documents by accident :P gotta undo them all :)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:18, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you!

Hello! Thank you for welcoming me!
GummiBearTay (talk | contribs) 23:54, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Awesome!

I forgot to sign a post :P You have an awesome bot!
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 14:38, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Btw, if you fix it within a minute or two, you won't get notified.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:02, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Reversions?

I am not sure why a lot of admins accidently rollback people's edits. I was wondering, is the patrolled button close to the rollback button? Maybe you know why because you have more prv. than me :)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:04, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the problem. Here are some screenshots: [2] [3].
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:07, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the images! That was helpful :)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:28, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

delete userpage

i am not sure if deleting userpages is allowed. it jsut creates annoying red links. correct me if i am wrong :)

KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:14, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

This user requested it to be deleted on scmb1's user talk page.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:22, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
Yep! I Asked For It So I Could Do Some Re-Modeling.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 21:54, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

admin, too!

I know admin has been a dream of yours on the wiki! And on the community portal, you said you really wanted to be one. I know how it feels, so I wanted to write a little referal letter to you so I could help you get to admin in your admin speech :) If elections are held, feel free to reference me with your speech :)
Jvvg is a really nice user. He/she (sorry for inaccurate pronoun, I will pick He out of pure luck) tries to keep the wiki very clean and run perfectly. For example, he would patrol edits coming up in the recent changes page. Upon seeing a edit that is not consistant with the rest of the wiki, he will change it, and alert the user on his user talk page to prevent the issue from ever happening again. Also, Jvvg has made a fully functional robot, which was made to clean up the wiki, which Jvvg has accomplished to do. WikiMonitor is a bot who signs unsigned signatures, and detect mass editing. This shows how much jvvg cares of making this wiki educational, running at its best, and why he would be a good admin for the Scratch Wiki. Jvvg has contributed to the wiki a lot, showing it with his helpful edits in this contributions page, and edit count page. He is super active on the wiki, not by editing a lot, but with quality edits. With admin, he will use this powers to help the wiki more, and to help Scratch users edit better, making this wiki a great place to learn.

KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 06:08, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll hold on to this if we have an election again.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:23, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Idea for Wiki Monitor

I very often notice that people forget to link to many articles. The most commonly forgotten links are:

But you get the point, people forget to link. Maybe you could create a white list of links for WikiMonitor to search for in random pages, and if, for example, a page contains the word "variable" and it is not linked in that page, WikiMonitor could automatically link it.

If you decide to do this, make sure you watch out for:

  • the bot linking multiple times or to articles already linked
  • linking in "scratchblocks" tags or "pre" tags, etc.


Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 15:26, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

That's probably something that would be better in VoxBot. WikiMonitor is only for inspecting recent changes, but this would also require looking at old pages.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:25, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello! I linked project for you guys! It took a while and it was truely semi-automatic, because I did not want to write a new plugin for tagging articles :) 400 pages linked to project :) i will do blocks later, that was tiring :)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 04:25, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
I am done blocks. Keep you updated on Variable :)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 06:31, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Question

Yo, I Have A Question For You. So, I Have This Account On Scratch That Isn't An Alternate Account, But Rather A Group Account That I Have Access To, That Welcomes People To Scratch. If I Made A Request For A Wiki Account For That Account (For Welcoming People On The Wiki So You Don't Have To, Or Just To Extend A Welcome), Would You Accept It? Please Tell Me On My Profile.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 21:57, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Personally, I don't see what the point is of having a Wiki account just for welcoming people. Also, group accounts are less secure.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 22:35, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
You can welcome new users yourself! That is what I do :)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:44, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Per Wiki policy, I will not accept that request because I still view that under the alt rule. I should also add a rule that the account only be owned by one person. If you wish to welcome people to the Wiki, please just use your own account, as KrIsMa does.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Also, I should add that KrIsMa probably has it covered because we usually only get new Wiki accounts once every few days, and new accounts show up in recent changes, which several users already patrol.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:48, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Well, As Far As I Know, People Are Allowed A Second Account For Insecure Situations. Also, Just Because They Know The Password On Scratch Doesn't Mean They Know The Password On The Wiki. Point Of Order, My Scratch Password Is Different Than My Wiki Password. But Thanks For Telling Me That.

At Any Rate, I'm Gonna Ask Somebody Else, Not Because I'm Upset, But Because I Reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly Wanna Know
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 04:35, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

The Wiki account policy specifically states that alts are not allowed. Exceptions are detailed in S:CONTRIB#Special_accounts, and for now that only means bots. Remembering your Wiki password is your responsibility. If you have an account problem, you should contact an admin.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 13:08, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, But That's Not An Alt.And Why Are Alts Not Allowed Anyway?
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 15:35, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
It is considered an alt because it is being requested by a user who already has a Wiki account, and we also now disallow group accounts. The reason we don't allow alts is that it gets much harder to tell who is doing what on the Wiki, in addition to the fact that many users don't have an account at all, so letting some users have two just because they want an alt isn't really fair.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:48, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Okay, Could Someone Else Ask?
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 23:52, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
No, because we have also made a rule that we do not allow group accounts (as a result of this discussion). Each member of the group may request their own account (provided they follow the necessary steps), but your group account is not allowed.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:26, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Group accounts are disallowed because:

  • If the account is shared between people:

Group accounts can be accessed by 2 or more people, and therefore, the wiki does not know who edited what on the wiki. Say, for example, the shared account test has two people that know the password, John and Doe. Now, if the shared account makes offensive edits, the whole account might get banned, but which user did what remains unknown. We cannot un-ban the account because it is unknown who made the edit. That is why group accounts are not allowed.

  • If the account is only accessible by you:

Then that is an alt account. Alt accounts are not allowed.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:34, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

What If All The Other People Don't Have Wiki Account And It's Just Me That Does?
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 18:10, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Then everybody else needs to request their own account. If they do not meet the necessary criteria for an account, then they need to wait until they do.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:17, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
Then I'll Make It Automated.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 03:42, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Have fun, but remember you need to use your own account.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 12:10, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

But If It's A Bot, Then It's Allowed To Have That Account, Right?
-unsigned comment by Mrsrec (talk | contribs)

Yes! Bot accounts are allowed. You want to make an automatic wiki welcomer? Ok! :) Edit:wait I saw in the community portal that you cannot make a bot? here? Hmm
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 14:54, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Well, the bot has to be approved, and one of the requirements for writing a bot is having a fairly good record on the Wiki, which you do not have.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:56, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Is That So? Saying That Doesn't Exactly Help Your "Record".
Also, KrIsMa, That's Not True.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 18:07, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
That is indeed a requirement. Please read Scratch Wiki:Bots, where it lists the requirements for creating a bot. Also, I am simply explaining why your request for a bot is denied. If I stated that publicly and tried to draw attention to it, then yes it would probably hurt my record, but I said it in a semi-private discussion. Also, what I stated on the CP is true. Please stop trying to argue this, as a decision has already been made and it won't change in the meantime. Also, you have continued a bit of bad behavior since that discussion, which does not help your case.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:19, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
In addition to what jvvg said (which IMHO isn't the best reason I've heard), if you want to make a wiki bot, you need to explain what it would do.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 20:35, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
1. I never really got a good explanation of what would do (and more specifically how it would help the Wiki). Bots need to actually be helpful to the Wiki as a whole because they do add to the server load, and it appeared that Mrsrec was just trying to make various ideas up to get the bot account (at first, the explanation was that it was only to fix his/her mistakes, and then he/she told me that if I am told the features, I will just add them to my bot).
2. The behavior history rule is important, because giving a user a bot gives them a lot of power (they could damage hundreds of pages in minutes), and if the user isn't used to following the rules, then there's no guarantee that the bot will not also cause damage to the Wiki.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:28, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

no bot

Apparently, your bot's nobot detection is not working? Thanks!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:28, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Where did that happen?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:41, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
If you are talking about Mrsrec's talk page, the template was added after my bot left its message.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:53, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Oh thanks!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:20, 3 February 2014 (UTC)