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Quick Question

Hey jvvg! Just a question for you, but what are the wiki ranks? Is there even any?
MClovers (talk | contribs) 01:53, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

I will answer this as jvvg is on vacation. You can find the different user groups described here :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 02:02, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
MClovers (talk | contribs) 02:53, 22 July 2017 (UTC)


Goodbye! Everyone will miss you. Also, who will take over WM? Unfortunately, I don't have the time or resources to run a bot, especially one as important as WM.
Popular GIF.gif Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 17:27, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

It's a little early to say goodbye, he should still be here for some months.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 20:02, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
I'm not leaving immediately. I will still be around for several more months. I will figure out where stuff like WM goes when I actually do leave.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:02, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
I'm happy to run WM. I have a copy of it on my rasbpberry pi.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,314)) 06:45, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Archive 18

It needs to be added to your list of Archives - sorry if you are doing that now.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 22:35, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Yes Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:44, 30 May 2017 (UTC)


Congratulations on the new archive! It's been a long time since the last one...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:31, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. It was definitely overdue, but I was too lazy to archive it earlier, and every time I thought about it, there was some ongoing discussion.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:39, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Found a bug

I just found a bug were I was able too create a user even though I don't have the ability to do so.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:44, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

You did not create a user, you created the userpage. Those are two different things. Userpages are treated like any other page by the software and can be created by anyone. However, creating pages for other users (even those that don't exist) without permission is a violation of userspace.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:56, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for clearing that up. I am sorry about that. I didn't know it was a violation. Am I in trouble?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 16:01, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
No, you're not in trouble. Please just don't do it again.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:02, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Ok thanks. I won't. :)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 16:05, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
Has the page in question been deleted?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
00:34, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes, it has.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:47, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Idea for April Fools

Every page that doesn't have an AF counterpart would have this appear in place of it's content:
Remove the Wikitext or go to the AF page to view the content that would appear. Also, how do you use CSS border-radius?
1a3c5e7g9i's Armemedillo 1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 21:10, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Just linking to a page isn't quite the same as the page being right there, though. For border-radius, just use <tag style="border-radius:x"></tag> as appropriate and replace "x" with the radius of the curve that will replace each corner.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:12, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
I was saying that the page's content's should be hidden (like when April Fools happens), and it would transclude it's content from Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools instead.
1a3c5e7g9i's Armemedillo 1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 04:05, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
To further clarify, they mean that if a page doesn't have an AF version, instead of transcluding {{Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/{{FULLPAGENAME}}}} it would transclude {{Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools}}.
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04:09, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Oh, I see. What sort of joke would we put on that page?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:02, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Hmm... I don't know. It should be a really good one, though.
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06:25, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

About the nomination page

Well, actually both the projectspace and the talkspace pages have a problem. On the projectspace, it says "Please read through the message before you submit it and make sure you agree with everything your posting." This should be "you're".

On the talkspace, specifically the template for nominating yourself, it's the template for the February 2016 elections. Shouldn't this be updated?
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03:23, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

I fixed the typo, but for the second one, since the template itself hasn't changed since the last election, there's no reason to create a new page.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:03, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
The template says "I, revisionuser, wish to run in the February 2016 election."
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00:30, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
I somehow missed that. I'll go fix it then.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:41, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes Thanks
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
01:54, 4 June 2017 (UTC)


In Scratch Wiki:Elections/June 2017/Nominations it says my name is "Kenny2Scratch". This should be lowercase... thanks.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:50, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Specifically, "Scratch" in my name is never capitalized.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:51, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes Done
Screen Shot 2015-08-01 at 7.17.22 PM Cropped.png St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs  05:03, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
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05:15, 5 June 2017 (UTC)


Should I make a page for IsOnline?
Except (talk | contribs) 16:32, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Is that a user? If so it's absolutely forbidden.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 17:00, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
I think there is a discussion about that here: https://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Scratch_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#IsOnline_Article :)
Screen Shot 2015-08-01 at 7.17.22 PM Cropped.png St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs  17:31, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

categorize question

Hi! I'm a new Wiki member.

I made a page about what is a logo. Then, I got a message saying I need to categorize it. I looked at the tutorial on it, but still have absolutely NO clue what it is or how to do it.

ski- (talk | contribs)

An example would be adding this to the bottom of the article:

[[Category:Scratch Website]]

All categories are at Special:Categories. Also, that article you made is a duplicate of an article that already exists as User Icon and is going to have to be deleted.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 14:58, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Not able to edit

I cannot appear to edit User:Customhacker/Collab/Services Planning Department/Template. Also, the text that I had placed is not showing up. Any idea why for either?
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 02:37, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I seem to be able to edit it... As for why the text isn't showing up, it's because you have an equals in the last parameter: <div style="color: white">. To fix this, do 2= before everything in that parameter.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:36, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
I cant: [1]
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 21:05, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
The problem is that the long title made the edit box be hidden. You can either use Vector (just add ?useskin=vector to the end of the URL to do so temporarily) or I can shorten the title for you if you want.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:14, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
If you don't like vector, you can also add ?action=edit to edit it anyway.
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06:48, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
Do you mind shortening it please?
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 20:13, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
I did, to User:Customhacker/Collab/SPD/Template, which is short enough to fit the box.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:22, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I dont understand about the 2= - I dont know what you mean? Can you show me what you mean on here please?
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 21:05, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Take a look at the edit I undid on the original page, but this is what I did: Instead of doing {{Header Template|image|text}} I did {{Header Template|image|2=text}} because there was an equals in the div so it thought the parameter "style" was being passed instead of parameter 2.
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23:35, 15 June 2017 (UTC)


Hey jvvg. Today I got a message on my talk page from WikiMonitor telling me that I didn't sign my post. However, although I did edit my talk page, all I did was add the navigation header. Is there a way to stop it messaging me when I'm not replying to a post?
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 21:15, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

I've had the same problem before (see archive 18) and he said he's intending to make it so that if the edit was before the first section and by the owner of the talk page, it'll ignore it.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
23:31, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
WM will ignore talk page edits if they are marked as minor, so in the future you can do that when making such modifications to your talk page.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:43, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Thanks! Yes Done
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 14:52, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
Oh, whenever I comment I mark it as minor...so I guess I need to stop doing that so WM won't ignore them :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 14:53, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
It said I didn't sign my post (I was using a Custom Siggy, doesn't that count?)

SquirreIstar Scratch icon.png łεąρіηłεøρąɾðȿτąɾ ((( ¦ τąłĸ ¦ 118 ͼøητɾіβȿ ¦ ȿͼɾąτͼħ ¦ )))
You need to sign with four tildas - use ~~~~ and (if you've set your preferences right) it should produce your signature and a timestamp, which is what WM looks for.
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00:46, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
OHHHHHH I see now!

SquirreIstar Scratch icon.png łεąρіηłεøρąɾðȿτąɾ ((( ¦ τąłĸ ¦ 118 ͼøητɾіβȿ ¦ ȿͼɾąτͼħ ¦ ))) 21:45, 13 November 2017 (UTC)


Could you please protect my new archive? Thanks. :) User_talk:Bigpuppy/Archive_2
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 12:23, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:20, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! :D
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 14:31, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Page Deletion

Hello Jvvg. Recently when moving the page Main Menu, we made a mistake, and had to move it twice, resulting in both Menu (Project) and Menu (project). If you could delete Menu (Project), it would be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 14:00, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

I did it.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 14:33, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Yes Done
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 15:52, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

About WikiMonitor... (Suggestion / Question)

Is it possible for WikiMonitor to automatically sign unsigned comments when it notifies users on their talk page with "unsigned comment by ___"? And if it is possible, I think it would be cool to see it implemented somehow.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 23:18, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

It is technically possible but fairly difficult.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:47, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
I had this idea before, but I already knew that it would be difficult...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:46, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Some questions, some statements

I saw that you seem to be preparing to have WikiMonitor update the FPC. However, this does raise a few things in my mind:

  • You have access to LocalSettings.php?
  • There are actually three instances of the name of the curator:
;DATE {{-}} NAME as FPC!
:NAME is the new FPC! Feel free to congratulate -->NAME<-- on their profile!
  • Thanks for showing me how to add a description to protection levels :D I'm setting up a wiki, and I added a protection level but I had no idea how to add a description for it.

As I just mentioned above, I'm setting up a wiki. I would like to know if it's okay to export the help pages on this wiki and import them onto mine. So, the question is: Is it okay? and what credit should I give, if any, and how? Also, do you know of a way to export pages in a certain namespace instead of a certain category? The current interface only allows adding by category.

EDIT: Never mind about adding by namespace, I don't need it.

Additionally, on an unrelated note: my browser timed out twice on this page :P

Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:10, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Regarding LocalSettings.php, I do not have access but scmb1 made the necessary changes. Regarding the announcement, I am aware of that.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:51, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
And, regarding exporting the help pages...?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
23:10, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
You are welcome to use all the help pages that you need. Just have a credits page or something that says you got them from here.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:12, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes Thanks
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
23:18, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

A question

When will you state that WM updates the news?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,314)) 17:19, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

What do you mean by that? I already told everybody on the CP that it will.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:27, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
On User:WikiMonitor
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,314)) 17:47, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Once I have confirmed that it works (hopefully this coming Monday).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:12, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Yes Done I think
bob1171 (talk | contribs) on Jvvg's talk page. 16:00, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Link to the source only

I want to link to one of my subpages (which anyone can edit) without giving anyone the ability to edit
(Like on S:N, except that you could still edit if you directly entered the edit section). Is that a possibility?
1a3c5e7g9i's Armemedillo 1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 02:33, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

There is no way to prevent people from editing pages other than protection (in which case you wouldn't be able to edit it either). However, other people editing your user subpages without your permission is a violation of userspace and is not allowed.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:16, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Please hide this revision vv

When @makethebrainhappy deleted their Skype subpage (presumably for you to see), they left the edit summary as default. Problem? The default edit summary showed their Skype username for any RC patroller to see! Could you please hide that revision? (Well, at least the edit summary.) Thanks.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:51, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Never mind, Yes Done by KrIsMa.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:35, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Robstruck15's Application

Hello. Would you mind taking a look at @Robstruck15's application and the conversation which I had with him on his profile? His application contains the components which we look for, yet he writes in sentence fragments which do not fit the grammatical standards of the wiki. How would you evaluate this application?
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 15:07, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm taking a look. Also, I added you on Skype.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:14, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 15:25, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Okay, what?

Veggieman deleted his user and talk pages... is that supposed to be allowed? It also seems like he does it regularly (going by the logs). Do you have any idea why he does that?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:25, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I was wandering that too...
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 07:33, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
Why would he do that?
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 10:39, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── A few things...

  • veggie is nonbinary (clicky!), so please use the appropriate pronouns (they/their, etc.). Also, we shouldn't assume each others' genders. A lot of people thought I was female for a long time (I'm still not quite sure why), but I am actually male.
  • Normally, we don't delete user talk pages. However, the reason for that is to allow users to communicate with a user regarding their edits and such. However, veggie has not been active for a while, so that is no longer necessary. In this case I am willing to make an exception.
  • No, I don't know why veggie deleted their user/talk pages. It doesn't really matter though, so we should stop spreading gossip about it.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:35, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

  • FYI, {{gender:veggieman001|he|she|they}} produces she.
  • I'm also fine with them deleting their user and talk pages.
  • Oh well, I just found it weird.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
00:39, 9 July 2017 (UTC)
But on his userpage, once it used to say his name was Jacob.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,314)) 20:40, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


I totally forgot that WikiMonitor updates the FPCs -- I updated the future FPCs part. I didn't click the main edit button, but the mini one on the future FPCs section, so I didn't see the warning. After that I noticed my mistake and immediately reverted my edit. Is this okay, or will it still throw off WM? Sorry!! :/
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 00:56, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

I undid the revision specifically, which hopefully fixes any issue which would have occurred. :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:14, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
You are welcome (and encouraged) to update the future FPCs, since WM actually doesn't update that part. Just don't update the list, number, or current FPC.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:30, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
Alright, thanks. I was really scared for a minute there. :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:41, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

How can you talk through my mouse?

How do you make it so you talk through my mouse? My page doesn’t do that.
Forested (talk | contribs) 17:22, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:23, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
10/10 If that post didn't have the secret text coming up, it would be the most non-constructive post ever.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 17:52, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
Wow! I didn't realize that until WolfCat67 pointed it out! xD
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 17:54, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
It's funny that everyone attributes this to me. I got the idea from scimonster's userpage.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:59, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
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05:43, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
What’s HTML? Is it that span thing there?
Forested (talk | contribs) 15:06, 19 July 2017 (UTC)


Basically, do this:
<div title="Spigots and fidgets (spinners) work well together. Mouse over different parts of the text to see what I mean.">

1a3c5e7g9i's Armemedillo 1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 23:32, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
Yes Done

bob1171 (talk | contribs) on Jvvg's talk page. 16:03, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

Something I'm not sure about

Could you check the last several messages in this topic and provide an opinion? Thanks.
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12:24, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Wikimonitor thing

After creating an April Fool page, it brought up the category notification, even though April Fool pages don't need categories.
PPL Icon.gif ♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 10:12, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Before, April Fools pages were stored in Jvvg's userspace - and userpages don't need categorization. However, now they are in projectspace - so they do need categories. I think we should just make a category for the AF pages...
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11:12, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Protect This Page

https://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/User_talk:Forested/archive_1 protect it please I don’t want other users commenting on it… my friends told me to go to you…
Forested (talk | contribs) 11:47, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes Done - Just please keep in mind that you won't be able to edit it either.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:44, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Categorizing question for you


I have a question about categories. I made a page about camps made by scratch users. I got a message that it needed to be categorized. What category would I put it as?

Thank you so much!
ski- (talk | contribs)

It looks like the article was deleted already for being a duplicate. In fact, we actually have a category specifically for Scratch Camps
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:28, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
OK. Before making the article, I checked if there were any like it. I didn't find any. And when I looked for the right category, I couldn't find it. I'm sorry.
ski- (talk | contribs)
Don't worry about it. In the future, a good way to find categories is to look at similar articles and see what categories they use.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:45, 10 August 2017 (UTC)


Hi Jvvg I was wondering if you could do me a favor.
Christianauburn (talk | contribs) 02:04, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm not jvvg, but what do you need?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:20, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
I may be able to, depending on what it is.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:48, 17 September 2017 (UTC)


'Ello! 'Ow's teh wife?
1a3c5e7g9i's Armemedillo 1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 02:58, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Could you help me out?

I’m trying to install the ConfirmAccount extension for my wiki, but I’m running into problems.

So my school assigns each student a student ID, ok? For example, I am s151087. When people request a wiki account, I want them to enter their student ID. This alone wouldn’t be sufficient verification - anyone could use someone else’s ID. Therefore, I’m taking advantage of the fact that every student has an eclass account, and asking for their eclass passwords as well. That way, I can test their username and password against the login page to see whether it’s actually them.

So far, no problem right? Here’s the problem: I don’t know how to do this. The way you modified the extension for the SW’s purposes still eludes me - what did you change? How can I modify the current version of the extension to do what I need it to do?

What I know includes the basics of PHP and the architecture of the school site. What I do not know is how to correctly modify the extension files to do what is needed. Could you help me out on this?
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01:56, 12 October 2017 (UTC)


Hello! I finally got onto the wiki! I hope the wiki becomes a fun place!
78ch3 (talk | contribs) 21:24, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

WM glitch

I was uploading a file and accidentally called it "Signature.gif". I moved it and got a message from WM:

== Please categorize new pages ==
It appears that when making the page File:Signature.gif, you did not include any categories. Please remember to categorize all new pages and files. Check out Help:Categories for details. Thanks!
This message was sent by an automated bot run by jvvg. You can contact him on his talk page with any concerns.

WikiMonitor (talk | contribs) 17:42, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

The problem is, i did categorize it.
bob1171 (talk | contribs) on Jvvg's talk page. 17:52, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

The issue here is that you moved the file before WM had a chance to scan it, so it saw Signature.gif in the upload log, but when it scanned it for categories, it didn't see any since the original file was deleted (and moved to the new name).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:24, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
Lol you moved it between the time WM saw the upload log and the time WM looked for categories - GG
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:05, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
WM only checks the upload log once a minute, and it sees you uploaded the file regardless of what you did afterwards.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:08, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Problem with WikiMonitor

At my talk page, I had welcomed a user with my new welcome template with my signature already in it but I got a message from WikiMonitor that I needed to sign it. The page is User:78ch3/Welcome
78ch3 (talk | contribs) 08:59, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

How ironic that you didn't sign your post here...
WikiMonitor looks for the (UTC) in the post - so if it's part of a template it doesn't see it. You should instead use {{User:78ch3/Welcome}}~~~~ to welcome users, so that the (UTC) is there for WM to see. This is not a problem with WikiMonitor - it's a problem with how you use your template.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:39, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
first thing, please don’t be like that. I’ll be telling an admin about that.
second, I am not blaming it on me. I saw the UTC in the post.

78ch3 (talk | contribs) 08:59, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

first thing, sorry about that - I'm getting a bit short, it's the end of school and I wanna leave. Also, you're on an admin's talk page.
Second, in that case please clarify - is the UTC inside the template or added after it?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:01, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Inside, but shouldn’t it be able to see it?
PS: new sig coming, beware changes.
78ch3 (talk | contribs) 09:15, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
No, it can't look at template contents. Move your signature outside.
*raises eyebrow*
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:19, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, WM looks for the timestamp, so you need to have it outside the template (or, potentially, you could do some magic with noinclude and subst). The reasoning behind that is that timestamps are independent of custom sigs (and I didn't want to try making it detect custom sigs, since that had the potential to be a total nightmare), and a signature isn't complete without a timestamp since we need to know when a message was posted and not just who posted it.
Also, kenny2scratch, please try to be more polite in the future (referring to your initial reply).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:53, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Automated Message

I'm sorry, I don't quite understand. What do you mean by "categorizing" my image that I uploaded? --
--Waterfall-- (talk | contribs) 23:02, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

When you upload a file or create a page, you need to put a category on it so everyone knows what it is. In your case, the category you wanted was Category:Users' Logos. To put it on an image, include the code [[Category:CATEGORY NAME]] in the file description when you upload it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:10, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, but I got a notification about then when I did add a category... I scrolled down, and it even showed the category...
--Waterfall-- (talk | contribs) 00:12, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
It looks like for the last one, you put an unnecessary space in the category code (i.e. [[ Category:Users' Images]] instead of [[Category:Users' Images]]). Although this makes the category work fine, WikiMonitor will trip up. If you don't put in the extra space, you should be fine.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 04:14, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

(A different) Automated Message

I received an automated message from you saying I have done too many edits in the last hour (9). I understand that I am supposed to take my time, but two questions:

  1. Am I supposed to continuously hit "save page" or "show preview"? I have been using "show preview", but there was one time that an article had a few mistakes, and I wanted to make sure I didn't lose the info, so I used "save page" a few times. I was wondering if this counts as an edit every time I click that button.
  2. Does editing my user page on the Wiki count as editing things? I have been doing that and I was wondering if that contributed to the nine edits. (I also hope this doesn't count >.<)

EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 01:34, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Every time you click "Save changes", it counts as an edit. The threshold to be notified is 6 edits in one hour, and you're only notified if they're all to one page. Also, yes, your userpage does count as an edit. The whole reason to avoid making lots of edits is to avoid clogging up recent changes (where some editors look to see what's been happening lately), and userpage edits show up there like any other pages.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:49, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
Oh!!! I'm sorry that I haven't been using the summary, I didn't know what it was for. I have been editing my user page a lot lately, and I didn't want to lose my info, so I used "save page". Sorry about clogging things up!! :D Thanks for the explanation.

EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 16:50, 10 December 2017 (UTC)


how do you become a admin.
-unsigned comment by The_scratch_voice (talk | contribs)

You have to be elected. We hold Experienced Wikian (EW) elections whenever needed, and usually when holding those elections, we will promote any active EWs to admin.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:53, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Your moderator bot

Your bot left a message on my talk page saying I didn't sign a post when I always sign my posts on talk pages thanks. --
-Lillion- (talk | contribs) 04:10, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

If you leave something at the end of a section, you need to mark it as a minor edit. WM detects what is a message by seeing if it's at the end of a section, but will ignore minor edits.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 05:10, 18 December 2017 (UTC)
Okay thanks
-Lillion- (talk | contribs) 03:33, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Protect this page

I think this page here: https://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Scratch_Wiki:Create_an_article is worth protecting.
The scratch voice (talk | contribs) 19:01, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

There are legitimate reasons other users might want to edit it (in fact, the last four edits are by non-EWs) and it's not that sensitive a page, so I don't think it's worth protecting.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:51, 18 December 2017 (UTC)


I'm sorry for making a page about the is online extension. I had no idea it was against the rules. I won't do that again.
The scratch voice (talk | contribs) 22:59, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

It's fine, don't worry about it. The Wiki takes a bit to learn the ropes of, and the best way to do so is by editing. Remember we're all here to help, and never be afraid to ask a question either on the talk page of any active editor or the Community Portal. Likewise, if we ever do tell you that we deleted a page or undid an edit, don't be discouraged, just take it as a learning experience.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:02, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Monitor

I was sent a message from WM, the "categorize notice". At the first revision, it has 3 categories. But now, it has {{delete}} and no categories. I think pages with {{delete}} don't have to be with categories. What do you think? --
Apple502j (talk | contribs) 00:43, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

I have made the appropriate change.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:34, 25 December 2017 (UTC)


Are you back? I've seen you accepting account requests. Are you back, or do you just check in every once in a while? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 21:47, 29 December 2017 (UTC)

Actually, looking at your talk page, it looks like you come back often! :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 21:49, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
I come on when I have the chance. I now just process account requests and look at edits that catch my eye. However, I also have a lot of work when I'm at school (I'm on break right now), so I don't have as much time then.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:54, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
Ah. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 21:56, 29 December 2017 (UTC)


Testing the new message if I forget my signature!
-unsigned comment by Jvvg (talk | contribs)

Please remember to sign your posts

It appears that on revision 182802 of the page User talk:Jvvg, you did not sign your post. Please fix this by adding four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your post to insert your signature and remember to sign your posts in the future. Signing your posts is important as it allows other Wikians to see who made a post. Thanks!
This message was sent by an automated bot run by jvvg. You can contact him on his talk page with any concerns.

WikiMonitor (talk | contribs) 21:51, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
Hopefully this will be the last reply I need to make without a signature.
-unsigned comment by Jvvg (talk | contribs)

Please remember to sign your posts

It appears that on revision 182837 of the page User talk:Jvvg, you did not sign your post. Please fix this by adding four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your post to insert your signature and remember to sign your posts in the future. Signing your posts is important as it allows other Wikians to see who made a post. Thanks!
This message was sent by an automated bot run by jvvg. You can contact him on his talk page with any concerns.

WikiMonitor (talk | contribs) 02:41, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
78ch3 (talk | contribs) 04:55, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Add the new SDS

You should add the new SDS to the wiki front page!
The_scratch_voice (talk | contribs) 02:01, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes Done by jvvg
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 17:41, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Please change this

Hi! On the bot requests archive there is something that should be changed, but the page is protected. :) Under "Declined," the first bot's section should be a sub-section, not a full section. Please change the section code to "=== BOT NAME ===" instead of "== BOT NAME ==."

Thank you so much! :D
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 17:47, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes Done by me.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 18:44, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
Thank you :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 00:01, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

Hi There !

Hello ! I have just started in the wiki, have any tips ?

HehtorOCH (talk | contribs) 16:15, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Wiki! I don't have any specific tips, but if you haven't read the Help:Welcome page, that's a good place to get started.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:02, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Delete and news entry

Can you delete the pages that I moved today and can you look at my new entry in the community portal
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 18:32, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Hi Asqwde! When moving pages, you can uncheck the "Leave a redirect behind" box and it will delete the previous page. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 18:35, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks for your help.

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 18:38, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

Patrolling Edits

Hi- I started patrolling edits, but now I'm wondering, am I allowed to yet? I read some of the help page on it. :) Thanks!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 01:10, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Oh, sorry for posting this on your talk page...
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 01:19, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, you're welcome to patrol edits. It just marks that an EW or admin has seen the edit.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:51, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Please remember to sign your posts

It appears that in revision 188524 of the page Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal, you did not sign your post. Please fix this by adding four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your post to insert your signature and remember to sign your posts in the future. Signing your posts is important as it allows other Wikians to see who made a post. Thanks!
This message was sent by an automated bot run by jvvg. You can contact him on his talk page with any concerns.

WikiMonitor (talk | contribs) 02:51, 17 February 2018 (CET)
How ironic.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 16:28, 17 February 2018 (CET)
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 18:17, 17 February 2018 (CET)


Hello! Do you need help?
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 23:39, 17 February 2018 (CET)

Not at the moment, thanks.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:38, 18 February 2018 (CET)

questions about new domain

Hi Jvvg, Is the news on the old domain still going to be updated? Also, the Scratch Wiki link at the bottom of every scratch page still goes to the old domain. We need to have the ST change that right? Thank you,
Best_at_scratch2507 (talk | contribs) 05:58, 18 February 2018 (CET)

The old domain will eventually be replaced with a notice that users are leaving the Scratch site and a link to this site. The link in the footer will be changed soon.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 06:00, 18 February 2018 (CET)
The link in the footer on the Wiki has now been changed. The link in the footer on the Scratch website should be changed soon.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:30, 18 February 2018 (CET)

Stop WM

I stopped WM because it seems bad - It tells me lots of warning with '1 edit an hour'. 1 edit an hour is not bad.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 14:11, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

You can disable it if necessary, then wait a few minutes for it to stop and reenable it.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,314)) 14:31, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
I will look into this. Thank you for letting me know.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:00, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

wiki monitor

I got a message from wiki monitor for editing a page 2 times in an hour. I don't see what is wrong with editing a page only two times in an hour. Is this a glitch?
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 18:33, 10 March 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I didn't notice someone else posted something about that.
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 18:34, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
1. It's WikiMonitor, not wiki monitor 2. It was a vandal who had changed the properties.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,314)) 20:39, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
I know it's WikiMonitor, for some reason I felt like spelling it like that.
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 20:47, 10 March 2018 (UTC)


I just recieved the message, but I've already uploaded the file. How do I categorise it?
Cinnamon bun puff (talk | contribs) 3:44 10 March 2018

Hi! I categorized it under Category:Scratch 2.0 Program Images for you. You can categorize something by following the instructions shown at Help:Categories. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 17:53, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
Actually, I changed the category of the image to Category:Scratch 2.0 Data Blocks Images as File:Variable right click menu.png is in there and I feel like it might fit better there. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 17:57, 11 March 2018 (UTC)
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