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A Weird Question

Hello, @Jammum! I have a question. I use an image called JokerSSB20.jpeg here:

JokerSSB20.jpeg

I use it on my user page, talk page, and welcome page. Should I, though? I get the feeling it's either super cool, or it's cheesy, weird, and dumb. I'm fine with you giving your honest opinion if you are constructively critical.
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk | contribs) 13:05, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I an fine with you using it (despite me being an EW, I do not think this image in particular needs intervening by an EW).
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:09, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
I'm not really asking if it breaks the rules. It's less serious than that. I'm just asking you if you like it or if it's weird. Sorry about any confusion there.
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk | contribs) 01:57, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
It is mildly weird, but not too weird. I do not think it would be too cheesy for the image to be used in several parts of your userspace.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:46, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. I was considering changing it the next time I change my profile picture, since they kind of go together.
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk | contribs) 12:31, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Questions Regarding a Scratch Wiki Article

Hello there, Jammum! Recently you moved a redirect page that is created by me, which is Scratch programming language due to capitalization correction. Can you please edit an article called Scratch Wiki, in order to fix the redlink only? Thanks for reading this page.
Tematikkp (talk | contribs) 09:46, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

The red link has been removed and now properly links to Scratch (the redirect still exists but is not linked to). Yes Done
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 10:27, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Okay, Jammum. Thank you then!
Tematikkp (talk | contribs) 12:36, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Capitalisation redirect deletion

Hello there, Jammum! I have no idea why capitalisation redirect pages are being deleted here, unlike Wikipedia. Why capitalisation redirects are deleted?
Tematikkp (talk | contribs) 05:20, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

I do not know the exact reasons why they are more likely to be deleted on this wiki, but I think they get deleted because they might not follow this wiki's page capitalisation guidelines (FAQ pages and a few others are exempt) and could appear as near-duplicates of the original title.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:31, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


Why is your username differnt on here?

Why do you have a different username on the wiki?
Mrobi343 (talk | contribs) 09:59, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

@Mrobi343: They have opened another account in Scratch. However, the Scratch Wiki account has been registered while they were using the old name, and the Scratch Wiki doesn't allow name changes except very extreme situations (exercising right to be forgotten under GDPR, i.e. permanently deleting your account; and rare requests from the Scratch Team from what I remember).
Registering another account on the Scratch Wiki is not allowed either (otherwise it'd be considered as sockpuppetry).
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
10:12, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
I requested this Wiki account (in October 2018) when I used the account Jammum on Scratch (which I unshared all the projects on over a year ago after moving accounts). I moved to the Scratch account SausageMcSauce around June 2019 and stayed on that account, leaving the Jammum account abandoned. As per ahmetlii's reply above, I have to continue using 'Jammum' as my Wiki username.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 10:56, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
Thanks So much :D _meow_
Mrobi343 (talk | contribs) 09:55, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
(small notes: Emojis do not work using the underscores method on the wiki, use {{E|...}} instead. Also, see S:INDENT to see how to indent on talk pages.)
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 10:01, 5 June 2022 (UTC)


Outdated Featured Image

This is a continuation from here. One of the current featured images is outdated. Variable readouts.png It should be replaced with this: Updated variable readouts.png
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 05:09, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

You posted something similar on Kenny2scratch's talk page, there is already a reply there.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:56, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Please notify the people when they're removed from DIS list

Hello, I've just recently seen your edit in Discussion Invitation list which removes a subscriber from the list. As outlined in the page, please notify the people when they are removed from the page due to inactivity next time. For now, I've notified the relevant user on their talk page. This is a friendly reminder for any further removal actions on the page. On any inquiries about this message, please leave a message on my page after checking out the relevant page mentioned in this message.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
17:21, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

How did you-

How did you change your name
-unsigned comment by CZ2746NE (talk | contribs)

He didn't, he moved Scratch Accounts. As you can see, the Scratch user Jammum still exists. However, he uses SausageMcSauce now.
UserIconAdzboy.png Adzboy β€’ Talk β€’ Contributions β€’ Scratch Profile 05:32, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
There is a longer explanation in this topic further up my talk page (see my first reply there)
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:01, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

Addi205's edits

As you noticed, Addi205 made a bad-faith edit to Scratch Wiki:April Fools/Studio, where he replaced the entire page with the contents of Scratch Wiki:Flawed Article. Should I trout him for that or should I report his edits? (I think I shouldn't report his edits since that was only just an April Fools' Day page.)

P.S. He also made a similar edit to Scratch Wiki:April Fools/Scratch 3.0, replacing the page with an older revision of the aforementioned flawed article. That edit was undone by Pizza0430.
EddyTheFox12 (talk | contribs) 07:38, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

I do not consider the edits to the April Fools Page bad faith (they were likely misunderstandings of flawed articles and AF pages), so they might not be problematic enough to report, but I think using TenType's trout templates might seem unfamiliar to that user. I think it would be fine to simply let them know about their edits being reverted.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:41, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Oh, that makes sense. Thanks for letting me know!
EddyTheFox12 (talk | contribs) 07:28, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

You deleted my Redirect

Hi, I recently noticed you deleted my redirect from [[1]] to Scratch Wiki:Custom Signatures. Why?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 11:52, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I deleted Custom Sig because content only related to the Wiki should only have a Scratch Wiki: prefix. Wiki-related content, even redirects to it, cannot be in mainspace (any page without a prefix).
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 12:34, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Oh. So if I want to make a redirect to a WikiSpace article it has to have a Scratch Wiki: prefix?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 14:41, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
If you'll put anything about the wiki, yes it should go to Scratch Wiki prefix.
Hint: You can use S: prefix for abbreviations, e.g. S:UGC. A proper redirect may have that too, for example S:USERSPACE.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
15:20, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

51515

Dear Jammum, As to 51515, although it is not directly related to Scratch, the page "Python" is not too. There are several examples, and 51515 contains a "word blocks" interface that is exactly equal to Scratch. I request it to be re-added, thanks!

Hope you reply soon :)


Pizza0430 (talk | contribs) 23:10, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Deletion of Pages

I recently noticed that you deleted the page that I created, Muted.It redirected to the page mute. Is there a reason these pages arent allowed?
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 12:00, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

I deleted the redirect because 'muted' is a past tense/adjective form of 'mute', and redirects from forms of a word (including plurals) usually get deleted because of how minor the variation is.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 12:11, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
Okay, thanks.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 23:23, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Question?

Is there a way you could hide the history where the Scratch Team article has last names? I have seen people using it to get last names which isn't something they want public.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 01:19, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Only admins and bureaucrats can hide revisions from pages; EWs can only delete pages.
Last names of Scratch Team members are shown for past ST members on the Credits page and were present on the Scratch Team page from the beginning of its existence until April 2020 (nearly 10 years). Deleting all those revisions would be removing nearly all the history of the article and by my estimate, nearly 400 revisions. I might discuss this with other EW+ on how disruptive deleting those revisions would be.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:25, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
Update: Jvvg replied to me off-wiki stating that an earlier conclusion some time ago (probably before I became an EW) stated it was not 'worth' revision deleting those revisions.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:27, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Why did you delete my RickRoll page?

The question is in the title.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 15:58, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

I deleted the page because it was only in your April Fools subpages (a subpage of Scratch Wiki:April Fools/User:Vdiu) of your userspace and not your actual userspace, because April Fools' pages (including userspace) are meant to have corresponding non-April Fools' pages.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:46, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

NotUseful Template

RE: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=PSALC&oldid=313652 I don't think the searcher that you're using has had time to index this yet. I have certainly seen it used off forums.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 12:10, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

I recommend you discuss this at Talk:PSALC (which does not exist at the time of writing this) instead of my talk page. I used the unofficial forums search engine Ocular to find evidence of 'PSALC'.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 12:16, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Sorry for creating those shortcuts

I didn't know that mainspace articles don't have shortcuts. Thanks for reverting my edits, I saw that in The history of the Scratch Team article.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:11, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

AFD Sig

I saw you deleteed a page with an AFD sig saying it was against rules. The page contained random gibberish, though, so would I be allowed to create one that is a signature with wonky text/picture? Thanks,
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 02:00, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

It might depend on where you use it. I think it might be allowed to use a fake signature on April Fools' pages (and userspace as well, although try not to use it to misrepresent your actual signature), but any variant of signatures for AF signatures cannot be used outside of it because it would not be serious enough.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:35, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

About recent revert on the talk page

Hello, I've noticed that you've reverted my edit with the reason of that it might violate userspace rules. I understand the reasoning, which is definitely a valid concern. However on this case it's quite clear that it's an unintended mistake, and thus I've just preferred to ignore the rule due to common sense and went ahead with a bold edit. Just to be safe though, I've sent a message to the user for notifying them.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:08, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

Rule Breaking Content

Hi, in the section I of your page User:Jammum/List_of_Deleted_Pages#I, there are like 5 times where it mentions the name of an extension. I think you should remove those (I'm a bit scared to edit an EW+'S page, ao I didn't do it)
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 22:33, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

The extension in question is around 5 years old (being there around the time of the extension policy introduction), and I think it is likely inactive. The entries for these pages are also still visible in the deletion log, so I am unsure myself whether to keep or remove the mentions.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:04, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
You're scared to edit an EW's page but not to mass-edit userspace? Why didn't you ask before doing the much more destructive action? I've explained why I reverted your edits on your Community Portal post.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:11, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Reverted edit

Hello! I wanted to ask why you reverted my edit?
SpaghettiAG852097- Logo.jpeg SpaghettiAG852097- talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 16:24, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

The reversion of two edits you made to your welcome template were accidental. I was trying to see the edit diff of one of those edits, but accidentally pressed a button that only Experienced Wikians and above can use (the rollback button) that immediately reverted your edits. I reverted it back after a few seconds.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:28, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
Ohh. Ok.
SpaghettiAG852097- Logo.jpeg SpaghettiAG852097- talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 17:12, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

My "Humorous Scratch Wiki Poem" might not be useful anymore

Hello Jammum?

I just want to ask you about one thing. One day, I created the page User:EddyTheFox12/Humorous Scratch Wiki Poem. This page was meant to involve users collaborating on a humorous poem about Scratch. However, since nobody has ever took part (I've put the open userpage template there so that everyone could contribute), I decided that the page is no longer needed and it would be wise to simply get rid of it.

So...I think I should mark it as useless. But should I use Template:NotUseful or Template:Delete? And should I use cat=no?
EddyTheFox12 (talk | contribs) 19:38, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

I am not Jammum, but I thought I could provide some insight.
As it's in your userspace, you can decide about whatever you want to do with it. Deleting it altogether (as it's in your userspace), adding content, mentioning it in others' talk pages or in the Community Portal, etc. etc. But yes, while adding maintenance templates to a non-main space, please add cat=no to disallow accidental categorization.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:59, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
@Ahmetlii If you add β€œDelete” with β€œcat=no” no one will ever know to delete it (I believe they check the maintenance reports).
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 23:55, 25 December 2022 (UTC)
@EddyTheFox12 Unlike the NotUseful template, the delete template can be added to userspace with a category (because userpages are subject to deletion criteria alongside mainspace), and is for pages that you are absolutely certain that you do not want any more.
With the NotUseful template, for pages that might want to be deleted but a full decision has not been made yet, it probably needs cat=no in userspace (although I rarely see that template in userspace).
I will only have your 'Humourous Scratch Wiki Poem' page deleted if you mark it as wanting deletion using the 'Delete' template or state it wants deletion in another way; it will probably stay if you keep the NotUseful template.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 08:28, 26 December 2022 (UTC)
@han614698: Oh yeah, except that case - if you really want to delete it.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
08:49, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

MIT

Hello! I am kinda late but i just noticed you edited the page Massachusetts Institute of Technology on December 20th, and you added that MIT was in Cambridge, Boston. Cambridge is a city and Boston is also a city. Cambridge isn't inside of Boston and MIT isnt in Boston either its in Cambridge. I didnt want to edit it cos i didnt want to get blocked for a flame war or something so I am just letting you know.
SpaghettiAG852097- Logo.jpeg SpaghettiAG852097- talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 18:48, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

I may be wrong. Here are some links i used to check my information btw

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Boston+MA&safe=active&surl=1&tbs=

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Cambridge+MA&safe=active&surl=1&tbs=

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&ie=UTF-8&lspend=1&oe=UTF-8&q=Massachusetts+Institute+of+Technology&safe=active&surl=1&tbs=


SpaghettiAG852097- Logo.jpeg SpaghettiAG852097- talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 18:53, 28 December 2022 (UTC)

@SpaghettiAG852097: The definition of city has always been weird. Every country has its own official, differing definitions about it; sometimes overlapping with other entities (county, "ceremonial" county, province, sub-province, statistical area, and henceforth). I personally think that naming other entities as the same as another geographical entity's name, or drawing very arbitrary boundaries is problematic anyways, but let's not delve deep into off-topic territory. ;)
But in that case, you're technically right. The article of Boston refers specifically to the administrative city entity, not including the urban area around it - which is covered in Greater Boston article. The page of Cambridge, MA does the same. And based on those examples (despite reminding the fact that "Scratch Wiki is not Wikipedia"), I suggest omitting Boston from the page, while leaving the rest as is.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:26, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
I didnt get a word you said lol.
SpaghettiAG852097- Logo.jpeg SpaghettiAG852097- talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 19:47, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
I just searched "MIT" and it just said "Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Cambridge, MA ‧ Private, non-profit ‧ 4-year"
SpaghettiAG852097- Logo.jpeg SpaghettiAG852097- talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 23:07, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Small note: For discussions like this one, I recommend you post on article talk pages (for this discussion, here for the corresponding talk page) in the future, where it would be more related to the article than posting it on a user talk page.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 08:24, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Just letting everyone know that I have edited the article to have their official location (Cambridge, Middlesex [County], Massachusetts, USA). When geographers list locations we usually out City, County, State, Country with no words after any of them. But for the sake of our wiki, I think it would be beneficial to put β€œcounty” after the county because I don’t think people will otherwise know what it is.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 13:19, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜Usually, when you tell people an address or write a letter to someone you usually dont include your county. You could include your county but it usually isnt very nessecary.
SpaghettiAG852097- Logo.jpeg SpaghettiAG852097- talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 15:59, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

No, you usually don’t. However, when doing official documentation of things you do.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 16:15, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
Okay
SpaghettiAG852097- Logo.jpeg SpaghettiAG852097- talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 16:23, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
I knew that I needed to put a Too Long;Didn't Read
@SpaghettiAG852097-: I was just saying that we needed to remove Boston from the page because:
  • it's not legally in the city of Boston, and
  • Wikipedia omitted Boston, and as per their rules they shouldn't add anyways; so we can, and should, also remove it too (Han already did that anyways).
    Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
    19:19, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Discussion Invitation

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SpaghettiAG852097- Logo.jpeg SpaghettiAG852097- talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 01:08, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Bad-Faith Edits

I've visited the recent changes page and saw that Scratch master2015 vandalized the 2.0 paint editor page. Should I report that revision? Here it is: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Paint_Editor_(2.0)&oldid=319283
EddyTheFox12 (talk | contribs) 08:11, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

The report function can be used, although you can revert them yourself.
Additionally, you added a 'whaled' template onto the user who made the revision in question's talk page. I recommend this is not done for warning users about bad faith edits in the future, as it seems too informal and might trivialise such edits.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 08:28, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
I already reverted the edit and notified him on his talk page 2 hours after the edit.
SpaghettiAG852097- Logo.jpeg SpaghettiAG852097- talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 13:57, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

edit

Hello, I edited someone elses userpage because it was innapropriate but I am kinda scared if what i did was wrong. Am I, a regular Wikian, allowed to edit someone elses userpage?
SpaghettiAG852097- Logo.jpeg SpaghettiAG852097- talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 02:10, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Yes, and you did the right thing. Jammum: Can you take a look and see if this warrants farther action? The user knew it was a swear word and worked around the censor to add it.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 03:13, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
I'll tell the other Wiki admins to revision delete the revision, as I cannot delete it myself.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:14, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Okay
SpaghettiAG852097- Logo.jpeg SpaghettiAG852097- talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 14:18, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
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