"Creating a Screamer" section

I'm not all that sure if we should include a section explaining how to make a screamer project. It somewhat encourages the behavior, yet the article itself explains that it can be taken down if it's too scary or disturbing. Thoughts?
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 22:56, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree. It seems sort of inconsistent.
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 23:28, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
Screamers are not actively discouraged on the website; to quote Paddle2See:
Some screamers can be kind of fun - maybe there is a bit of a loud noise and a funny picture suddenly appears; those are fine. A little surprise can be enjoyable.
Only overly gross or scary ones are not allowed, and we already have a bit about that. So I think it's fine.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 02:38, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I agree with Hardmath about not being actively discouraged.
I just didn't think much of the section because it seemed really pretty obvious how to make it.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 07:35, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I guess you're right Hardmath - it should be fine to have in the article. :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 20:27, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I was just about to comment about that section, then I saw this. I still think it should be removed.
Wolvesstar97 (talk | contribs) 05:49, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Why?
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 06:26, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
Because it encourages that behavior. Also, 'overly distressing' and 'scary' are relitave and opinionated terms, what's fine for a 12-year-old may be horrifying to a 4 year old. :/
Wolvesstar97 (talk | contribs) 05:31, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Then why do we have "Making Scratch close"? That encourages putting in that script to prevent remixing, which is clearly discouraged by the ST.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 06:00, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
Because that is an actual technical feature of Scratch. Creating a screamer isn't. It's a tutorial of something that's not allowed. Making Scratch Close is allowed.
Wolvesstar97 (talk | contribs) 18:40, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
(I bumped this back so the conversation doesn't get too squished). @Wolvesstar97: True, but Screamers are a "phenomenon" on the Scratch Website, and there's no reason we should be able to include articles on all project types except Screamers. Kaj was a bad user, but we still have an article on him. As long as the article clearly states what is okay and what is not okay for a Screamer project to be uploaded, it can stay.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 22:46, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Hmnn... I'll think about it maybe... but, I wont, for the sole reason that my template/category will not be in use anywhere in the wiki. And that would be sad. Oh, and we have a page on Kaj because users were scared of him. Kaj is part of Scratch History. Screamers arent.
Wolvesstar97 (talk | contribs) 22:55, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
And screamers aren't a phenomenon on the Scratch Website, they are on YouTube primarily. They originated on Youtube, and they are encoraged to stay on youtube (what happens in Youtube stays in Youtube XD ). Also, most screamers are flagged, because few are not scary (like GO TO POTATO).
Wolvesstar97 (talk | contribs) 23:03, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Just like people are scared of Kaj, people are also scared of screamers. Also, I think screamers are somewhat part of Scratch's "culture", (even if its not as big as on YouTube), so it is acceptable to include on the wiki.
Keep in mind that a template does not have to be used on any articles at a given time on the wiki. It's actually good if the inappropriate template isn't being used at all - that means that all of the Scratch Wiki's articles are appropriate for Scratchers of all ages! I'm sure it will have its usefulness later. :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 23:21, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I know (I just like having it there because I like the template and it took me a while to figure out) Ok, it can stay. I give in.
EDIT: I just removed my template and replaced it with a warning. :D
Wolvesstar97 (talk | contribs) 23:30, 13 June 2012 (UTC)