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Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,141edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Done.

Updated the list as the author.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,141edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Updated!
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,141edit 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Logging server faults

 Never Done

Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Time	Errors	Details/Comments
8 August 2018	400 Bad Request 503 Service Unavailable	I was editing User:Kenny2scratch/common.js, and when I clicked "save page" I hit a "400 Bad Request" error. I pressed the browser "back" button (thanks Chrome for caching form data), and clicked "save page" again, and I encountered "503 Service Unavailable". I went back again, resubmitted, and the edit went through. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
10:26 AM, 3 September 2018 (GMT)	Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties	I clicked on random page asqwde talk | contribs 09:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
5:27 PM, 3 September 2018 (HKT)	"Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties"	I was literally attempting to edit this section. When I clicked the "edit" link, it brought me to a page that said: Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. (Cannot access the database) You can try searching Google in the meantime. Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
10:07-11:20 PM, 8 September 2018 (HKT)	Major outage across all wikis	Multiple screenshots: [1][2][3][4]this is the most useful error[5][6][7][8][9][10] Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
10:44 AM, 2 October 2018 (GMT)	508 Resource Limit Reached	Edit a user's talk page asqwde talk | contribs 09:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
4:40 AM, 2 January 2019 (CST)	508 Resource Limit Reached	Trying to create a redirect page.  12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
4:58 PM, 8:02 PM, 10:22 PM, 10:25 PM @ 3 January 2019 (HKT); 12:46 AM @ 4 January 2019 (HKT)	508 Resource Limit Reached 503 Service Unavailable File upload fail	Frequent outages across all wikis. Most likely caused by traffic spike from 3.0. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
9:12 AM, 4 January 2019 (CST) 9:17 AM, 4 January 2019 (EST)	"Service Unavailable Error [...] 503 Service Unavailable Error" "508 Resource Limit Reached"	Trying to enter my talk, kept refreshing until worked, came to CP to log fault. Errors repeated until worked.  12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
15:02:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)	Fatal exception of type DBQueryError	I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page. Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
9:02 AM, 7 February 2019 (CST)	508 Resource Limit Reached	Trying to go to How to Make a Typewriter Effect.  12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
4:50 AM, 25 May 2019 (UTC)	HTTP error: error	Clicked the Show preview button while editing User:TenType/Header, when it did not preview and received the error. Clicking the button again resolved the issue. TenType (talk | contribs) 04:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
11:00 PM, 24 June 2019 (UTC)	"Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."	Literally attempted to access en.scratch-wiki.info and a few other pages, when I received this: Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. (Cannot access the database) You can try searching via Google in the meantime. Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date. Waited for like 10 minutes while reloading and the error finally cleared. TenType (talk | contribs) 07:17, 25 June 2019 (HKT)
08:25, 22 January 2020 (EST)	"Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."	Tried to navigate to my userpage from another article, and got the error.  Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,383)  Scratch  Directory  13:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
13:26, 2nd April 2020 (UTC)	2020-04-02 13:26:04: Fatal exception of type DBQueryError	Pressed the edit box on the wiki sandbox. Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 13:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Sometime around 22:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)	"MediaWiki internal error. Exception caught inside exception handler. [...]"	Clicked on the Recent Changes link on the sidebar, screenshot here bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
22:42, 2 April 2020 (UTC)	"MediaWiki internal error. Original exception: [...]"	Was accepting an account, screenshot here TenType (talk | contribs) 22:51, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Could we have a dedicated page to that?
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,799)) 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Nah, just here is fine.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. (archives)
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Not too many right now.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

 Never done! Server faults will always come.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,799)) 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Do we not have this?
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).

Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

There are kinda a lot of faults now, I believe we should create another page for it.
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  16:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

List of deleted pages

 Not done

(Brought up here after discussion here.)

So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:

• Mathfreak231's, which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
• Mine, which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
• Jammum's Deleted Pages, which are more recent than either of the above
• Jammum's All Deleted Pages, which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)

I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a Scratch Wiki Project.

Advantages

• More organized
• One place for all
• Can be updated by anyone

Disadvantages

None I can think of off the top of my head

Thoughts? Shall we do it?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

+1 :)
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I think the page will not be notable enough to go there.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a Scratch Wiki Project. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘I say aye.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Are we going to do this?
Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I just created a page called User:TenType/Deleted Files, was scrolling through the Community Portal, and found this discussion.
Maybe this page could contain pages only and not files? (I really spent a lot of time and effort onto my deleted files page) Anyways, still waiting for a response on whether or not this project will be started.
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Why not? It sounds like a great idea; let's get started. How do you guys find deleted pages anyway (just wondering)?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 15:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Why hasn't this happened yet? :P
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  16:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Welcome templates

 Done

A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:

10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?

To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.

I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can ?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

It has happened again...
 Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,383)  Scratch  Directory  20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different??
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Can't we make a User_talk:ACCEPTEDUSER/Welcomes page?
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,799)) 20:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

That doesn't actually cause a ping tho...
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

We could make it ping though if there is someone willing to mess with the code...
smileycreations15 (talk | contribs) 11:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

I was just scrolling through the CP, and this caught my eye. Great idea, I definitely think this needs to be considered. I understand that people are just trying to be kind by sending the welcome messages, but it would almost be like a horror film for the person who owns the account. I think 4-5 welcome templates are enough, but I think there needs to be a break between even those. Getting 4-5 welcomes in a couple of seconds is also not the best of ideas.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 17:55, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

We should ask new users for their opinion on this right after they get the welcomes.
TenType (talk | contribs) 00:06, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

I think 4-5 is a good limit. I personally liked getting welcomes, but I only got 3 of them.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 14:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm a fairly new user, and I got 4 welcomes. It seemed fine for me, so I agree that 4-5 sounds like a good limit.
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 01:23, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘How about one or two users post a template, or we just use the automatic one at the top, and then people below can put encouraging words (not large templates) followed by a sig? This would not be too much for the user, but still shows lots of people are there to support them!
 Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,383)  Scratch  Directory  15:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Maybe we can create a welcome template, and a bot automatically adds it for every new user. Any user edit it (just like an article). Maybe there could be in it for all the users that contributed.

 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:21, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Please fix your signature!

No, the point of each user having their own welcome template is for them to be specific to the user welcoming - a different message for each one. If they just wanted to add their name to a stock welcome they could reply to the {{welcome}} message added by default. However, 10 users posting personalized welcomes is a lot of different welcomes to read - which is why it needs limiting.

Seems like 4-5 is the limit we've agreed on; for the sake of looseness, the limit is now 5 welcome messages at most on any new user's talk page (not including the {{welcome}} message; does not apply to users created before this decision).

@Nambaseking01: Limiting the rate of welcomes is a separate topic that should be proposed separately.

This topic is now  Done
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Block Problems

 Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken
Today I started to finish up the script for How to Evaluate an Expression, and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else — it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in Show preview mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in this forum topic?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this?
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

You can use this page.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...

@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks!
TenType (talk | contribs) 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

New Featured Images

 Done

Hey! Soon, on August 12th, it'll have been a month since we updated the Featured Images yet. This time, I don't want to do them late like I have in the past, so does anyone have any suggestions?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

A photo of somewhere tropical.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand - is this a joke (if it isn't, I'm not trying to offend; simply trying to understand)?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

It is.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

The _:))_ emoji. Looks nice and funny.
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 01:23, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

You mean literally feature the picture? I guess that works LOL

I'd suggest File:Statistic Rollover Info.png because it looks cool and has a random interesting piece of info :)
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  07:42, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

It's been August 12th, does that mean this discussion is now for the next featured image change? Or can this be archived?
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 18:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Giving Credit on the Wiki

 Done I think that we should make a template for credit like this:

Credit to Scratch-Coding for this template.

. It would be helpful. We could use the remix button image instead of the one I have.
Scratch-Coding (Talk |Scratch |(378 edits) 00:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

When and where will it be used?
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,141edit 01:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

What would you use this for, and why? The wiki is a collaboration and we all own a part of it. No one owns a article unless they created it on there userspace where they can so whatever they want with it.
ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  01:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Templates are mainly created for mainspace Wiki articles — when and why would this be needed?
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

It would be used on userspaces, giving credit for a image, and giving credit for an example.
Scratch-Coding (talk | contribs) 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

You can use it on your userspace but I don't think it's necessary. Btw: What did you do to your signature? It's broken.
ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

This wouldn't be that beneficial to the Wiki, especially if it is mostly used on userspace. I still disagree.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Who would use it?
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't think this is necessary. If you need to credit someone you don't need a template. Furthermore, you wouldn't need to credit anyone on mainspace, this is collaborative and we don't get/need credit for what we write here.
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Giving credit is not needed in mainspace and can be done manually:

Credit to Scratch-Coding for this template.
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 23:41, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Let's go ahead and consider this  Done.
 Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,383)  Scratch  Directory  17:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Tinkercad Codeblocks

Tinkercad has a new feature called Codeblocks that looks similar to Scratch. It has hat blocks and variables. I think this could have a page on this wiki.
LiamSapp123 (talk | contribs) 19:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Does it have a specific connection to Scratch in particular though? We don't have a page on Blockly, even though it's a similar concept (and even though 3.0 has Blockly code in it).
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Maybe we should have one about Blockly
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:31, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

I agree that we should make one on Blockly.
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 01:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

 Further discussion needed
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:11, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

What happened to link previews?

 Not done They don't seem to be showing up for me at all anymore. Anybody else?
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  02:44, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Same here. Did someone turn it off?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Also not getting previews (or at least when I tried it on Image Hosting, linked above). I'll ping jvvg (since he was the one who enabled them).
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Any reply from jvvg yet?
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  01:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Have you found any information on this yet, anybody?
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  23:22, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Scratch program image

 Not done
The image showing the scratch program should be 3.0, not 2.0, right?
Mohie (talk | contribs)

Not necessarily, we use the 2.0 version for historical references. So, we should have to images for this. One for 3.0, and one for 2.0.

Also, could you link to what you're talking about, please? It would be so much easier for someone to know what you were talking about easily.
-unsigned comment by 12944qwerty (talk | contribs)

He meant the picture of the Scratch program shown in Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents needs to be updated to 3.0. Could an admin do this?
TenType (talk | contribs) 23:25, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Okay... So is there going to be another section for 3.0, or is 2.0 going to be merged with 3.0?

And also, TenType is correct. I do mean the SW TOC.

Mohie (talk | contribs) 16:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki Adventure

 Not done

On Wikipedia, there is an option for new Wikians to complete the Wikipedia Adventure. This teaches them skills and covers all the basics of using Wikipedia. I think it'd be a good idea to create a Scratch Wiki Adventure of our own to teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki. This would include editing tips, rules, etiquette, etc. I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on this idea and/or if anyone would like to work with me on creating this.
54329 (talk | contribs) 17:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

+1
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

I hope you're prepared to put in the amount of work involved, because The Wikipedia Adventure is really involved (I've done it once before) and a lot of stuff has to be created for it to work. I like the idea, but I don't know if anyone here has the follow-through to actually focus on a project like this that could take a week or more to make.

If you think you can commit yourself (and furthermore get others to commit themselves) you can make a Scratch Wiki Project of it. Good luck!
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Woohoo; we got bureaucratic approval! I think we can do it (maybe not as well as the Wikipedia Adventure, but still good). I'll start thinkin' up some basic ideas to start us off. If anyone is interested in working with me on this, please let me know on my talk page.
54329 (talk | contribs) 05:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Isn’t this going to be a duplicate of the welcome tutorial?
Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 06:41, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

No, the Wikipedia Adventure is really involved and more interactive.
TenType (talk | contribs) 06:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Adding on, when I did it, it felt a lot more like a game/activity than a guidebook. It allows the user to actually collaborate, talk to people and create/edit a page all in a sandbox setting. It helped me learn the basics of Wikipedia far more than a guide could (probably because I was really interested in it and getting those shiny badges was nice).
54329 (talk | contribs) 06:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

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SWP 003 - Scratch Wiki Adventure

Description	Status	Owner	Started	Links
Create the Scratch Wiki Adventure "game" to help teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki in a fun, interactive setting.	Not done	Owner: 54329 Assigned: TenType 12944qwerty Apple502j Scratch-Coding Jammum Dominic305 JJBullet Kenny2scratch	11/21/2019	Project results
				Project page
				Project discussion

kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I can help some tech stuff maybe?
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,141edit 17:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I can help too!
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I want to help too, so should I add myself or should 54329 do it as he's the owner?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  01:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

In reply to both of you: Thanks for offering to help out! I'll add both of your names to the list. For future people that wish to help: feel free to just add your name under the "Assigned" section.
54329 (talk | contribs) 05:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

I just took a quick glance at the Wikipedia Adventure, and that looks cool! I created a very different page a while ago with the same goal of educating New Wikians using a sort of quest system - you can check it out at User:Bigpuppy/Quests. It seems like this would be very different than that, though. Good idea!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘That's super cool that you made a quests page. This will be semi-similar. Feel free to stop by if you have any ideas for it. wink wink
54329 (talk | contribs) 08:03, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Moving Plural page titles to singular

 Not done On the wiki, there are many page titles like "Blocks" and "Numbers". This makes it confusing to users and editors, as well as links. "[[Block]]s makes a link to singular that appears plural, but there is no equivalent for singular-appearing plural-leading links.

This is a big change in the Wiki, so further discussion will be needed to manage the moves.
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 00:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Could we start a Scratch Wiki Project? I  definitely think we should keep the pages consistently singular.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 02:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Singular page titles would seem strange, since the plural describes a general thing, there is not only one. Also, I fixed a spelling mistake.
-unsigned comment by Congyingzhou (talk | contribs)

Many page titles cannot be made into plural form. Having both plural and singular forms is confusing and creates other problems. Singular page titles are also easier to work with, as I said in my first post. Also, remember to not change other users' posts without permission.

Should I put {{move}} on the plural pages?
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 00:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I'll put the template on as soon as possible (on the bottom)
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 03:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Next time, don't add {{move}} to all of them; either move them all right away or wait. It makes a bunch of edits in Recent Changes which will all need to be undone when the final decision is decided.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:02, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

So should we move them or not, and how will we do it? We will also need to fix many links and redirects.
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 00:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Or should we just mark the pages and get a bot to move the, fix all the redirects and links, and change any other issues?
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account

2.0 Image Updating

A lot of images here need updating to 3.0. For example, the editor in the TOC, many Scratch Cats, etc. When will this be done?
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 10:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I've asked an admin to update the TOC image. Not sure about the other ones.
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 16:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

There's not a set time when this will be done. It will be done gradually. Any time you see an image that needs updated, feel free to update it (but be sure to compress, crop, etc. the file).
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  01:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! January 30^th, 2020

Welcome to the 25^th Thankful Thursday! January 30^th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Thankful Thursday

Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User	Thanks
The Scratch Wiki Adventure Team	I was amazed when seeing the discussion about this at the CP! Good luck on making it, team - you'll do a fantastic job! Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:35, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs)	Since the creation of your account, each time I look through the recent changes, I almost always see your name there. You're constantly making contributions to various pages improving the Scratch Wiki. Thank you for all of your efforts and help! 54329 (talk | contribs) 20:52, 2 January 2020 (UTC) Wow, dude! That's an amount of edits! Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 17:18, 7 January 2020 (UTC) Thanks for your impressive effort to clean up every corner of the wiki and providing impetus to help with the same. Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 03:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Groko13 (talk | contribs)	You good? You joined after me and seem to be rocking this place up! Fantastic job, my friend, you are doing some awesome contributions to the Scratch Wiki already! Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 20:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)	You just became an EW, like, three months ago and you are already rocking up the Scratch Wiki! I can already see the amount of people being accepted into the SW as a contributor increasing! That's a big inspiration for me to become an EW one day ;) Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC) You always make sure the wiki is running nicely and try your best to fix mistakes and problems. CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 00:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Tabourettable (talk | contribs)	You have some strength, don't you? ;) No matter how mistakes you make, you keep getting motivated to edit this place more. I decided I could help you with your motivation, I can see the future shining that you'll be an AWESOME editor. Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
banana439monkey (talk | contribs)	You always point out wrong things if there is a discussion between other people in a funny way and also know how to critcise someone without...uhh...being harsh or anything, just plain funny. Congrats, my friend who gave me karma in a talk page message... Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Jammum (talk | contribs)	You seem cool! Also, you indirectly helped me with a mouse pointer dialogue! Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:04, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Hellounicorns2 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for the awesome font — I really like it! Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:04, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

“

There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

”

The next TT is February 27^th. See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Why won’t this table work?

 Not done

Link: User:Waffle_Iron_Studios/ScratchNet shop page
Waffle_Iron_Studios (talk | contribs) 21:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I think it's because the table does not have any line-breaks. See this.
Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 07:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! February 27^th, 2020

Welcome to the 26^th Thankful Thursday! February 27^th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Thankful Thursday

Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User	Thanks
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs)	Thank you for your impressive amount of contributions to the Scratch Wiki! Keep up the good effort! TenType (talk | contribs) 02:17, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
IsaiahContreras (talk | contribs)	Thanks for your hard work as soon as you joined the Wiki! Keep up the great work!  Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,383)  Scratch  Directory  15:55, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)	Thank you for patrolling so diligently! You're precisely what I search for in an EW (not that others aren't) - thanks for being so faithful to the Wiki. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:41, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
Dominic305 (talk | contribs)	Thank you for reminding me to post TT! Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

“

There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

”

The next TT is March 26^th. See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

 Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

New Featured Images

 Not done

Does anyone have suggestions for new featured images after these ones have run their course?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:52, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

We should really have a better system for suggesting featured images... (see Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions)
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

I agree.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

IWB Interwiki Check

Hello everyone. It's been awhile since IWB has scanned the wikis for interwikis to add, and now is probably a good time to do that!

Below you'll find a list of proposed edits from the bot. It would be helpful if a few people could look at some proposed edits and double check them for errors:

User:InterwikiBot/Proposed_Edits

Several issues have already been discovered:

• Not properly handling empty interwikis, ex en:, see the ja homepage
• test -> tw
• The bot is proposing adding interwikis to other pages when they already have an interwiki for that language
• Help:Namespaces has a flat out wrong interwiki suggestion

This might take another round or two to remove perviously undiscovered bugs, but with the wikis growing more complex, it's important to get them now. Thank you
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:37, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Advertising article

We really need to overhaul this article. A lot of it is just advertising the product. For example, do we really need a "Buying" section?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 23:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Scratch Bit has also a buying section. But the entire page is just an ad.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 08:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

I've moved the GoPiGo article to the creator's userspace (which has precedent - see the last topic on User talk:DexterInd) and removed the categories & advertisement notes.

Scratch Bit is an official Scratch product and must be documented. It stays.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Sonic the Hedgehog

Right now the wiki is saturated with Sonic the Hedgehog stuff, specially the AF pages. Lots of example of stuff are Sonic stuff. The entire wiki feels like an indirect Sonic ad. We should change a lot of this examples.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 11:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Other than April Fools pages, could you give a few examples?
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 13:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Just wiki search Sonic or Hedgehog. Also a lot of examples are by PrincessPandaLover and need to be changed int more generic stuff.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 14:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken, the Sonic stuff is limited to only AF pages. It's fine to gradually phase AF pages away from Sonic content while making other edits to the pages, but don't go mass editing out Sonic stuff. (Do note that I don't really see a problem with a Sonic theme in AF pages lol)
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  16:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German

Currently, the links under the 'Legal' category do not are not mentioned that they are in German. I suggest that the footer mentions that the content under the Legal category are in German.

Without mentioning that, some people might be confused that they are in German, and not English. They also cannot be translated into English without it being inaccurate.
Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 13:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Why would they be German?
OurPrincess (talk | contribs) 16:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

The Wiki servers are located in Germany and therefore follow the rules/regulations of Germany.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Would you be amenable to using the external link marker on them instead? Putting "(German)" on a footer link seems unorthodox...
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

The servers are German because they are owned by Martin Wollenweber, who lives in Germany.
OurPrincess (talk | contribs) 11:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Maybe the Privacy Policy and the Disclaimers can be individually labelled that they are in German, or is that still 'unorthodox'? They could have 'in German' put in brackets after them.
Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 13:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

I think it's fine the way it is, but it should get translated for other wikis so we know what happens to our data.
 Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,383)  Scratch  Directory  17:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Did you read the OP? They can't be translated accurately.

Having a notice at the top of the actual pages saying something similar to what I say on my userpage (the "many other wikis link here" thing), ideally translated into everything, would also be fine for me - I'm only opposed to changing the footer.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Updating Translators page

The Scratch Team is no longer actively maintaining the translators page https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Translators

I'd like to remove the Scratch Team only badge and allow folks from the translation community to update the page. Ideally there would be just one or two people per language that would keep things up to date for their language.

Would there be a different process for translators to join as a wiki editor? Are there different suggestions for having the translators page managed by the community?

Thanks, --Chris
-unsigned comment by Chrisg (talk | contribs)

Ok! I'll remove the banner at the top of the page for you. As for the translation community updating the page, we can not allow a different application processes for translators joining the wiki, though they are welcome to follow the current application processes and join the wiki that way. Also if they chose not to join they can always leave a post on the Community Portal in the forums with what should be updated and one of our editors will happily make the change. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 16:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Turbo Mode

 Done

This article is very outdated, I believe we should create an article on Turbo Mode itself.
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  22:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

I agree - there is an article about Detecting Turbo Mode, but there doesn't seem to be one about Turbo Mode, as Turbo Mode just redirects to that article.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

The problem seems to be fixed as there is now a template saying it is from a historical perspective.
OurPrincess (talk | contribs) 18:06, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

There is - however, I don't believe that is the problem here. I think the problem VFDan is referring to is that there is not an article about Turbo Mode.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:11, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

That is what I am referring to; I believe we should create an article about Scratch 3.0's Turbo Mode
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  00:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

You could create an article entitled "Turbo Mode (3.0)" and redirect Turbo Mode to that page instead of to the historical page.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Created the page, and changed the redirect. However the page is in dire need of expansion.
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  17:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Marked as  Done however the article still needs expansion  VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

How to make a quiz

[big] What Is A Quiz? [/big]
-unsigned comment by Cs1760724 (talk | contribs)

This isn’t the purpose of the Community Portal.
Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 06:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

I was actually just about to make a tutorial for that. What a coincidence~!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Creating a Quiz already exists.
Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 16:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I've redirected How to Make a Quiz to Creating a Quiz.
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)