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Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,154edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Done.

Updated the list as the author.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,154edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Updated!
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,154edit 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Logging server faults

 Never Done

See dedicated subpage
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 Part after this line can be archived

Could we have a dedicated page to that?
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,079)) 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Nah, just here is fine.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. (archives)
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Not too many right now.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

 Never done! Server faults will always come.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,079)) 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Do we not have this?
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).

Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

There are kinda a lot of faults now, I believe we should create another page for it.

 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  16:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I mean, we could always just add /Server_Faults as the path and switch this there. It wouldn't be that big of a hassle, you can just copy and paste it. And there are more and more coming anyways, so it's not oing to be too long before it gets very long.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

This is so long that it's now a hassle for scrolling through CP. I think we should definitely create another page for it; maybe link to it from the CP?
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch 

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘I agree with VFDan. We could also just collapse it, although that would not stop it from making the CP loading time longer.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I collapsed it; I still agree with making a separate page though.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:50, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

I've moved it, since I do agree now that it's gotten fairly long. The meta-conversation can be archived, so it's  Done; the link to the subpage must stay here as this topic on the CP.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

List of deleted pages

 Not done

(Brought up here after discussion here.)

So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:

• Mathfreak231's, which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
• Mine, which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
• Jammum's Deleted Pages, which are more recent than either of the above
• Jammum's All Deleted Pages, which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)

I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a Scratch Wiki Project.

Advantages

• More organized
• One place for all
• Can be updated by anyone

Disadvantages

None I can think of off the top of my head

Thoughts? Shall we do it?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

+1 :)
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I think the page will not be notable enough to go there.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a Scratch Wiki Project. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘I say aye.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Are we going to do this?
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I just created a page called User:TenType/Deleted Files, was scrolling through the Community Portal, and found this discussion.
Maybe this page could contain pages only and not files? (I really spent a lot of time and effort onto my deleted files page) Anyways, still waiting for a response on whether or not this project will be started.
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

Why not? It sounds like a great idea; let's get started. How do you guys find deleted pages anyway (just wondering)?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 15:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Why hasn't this happened yet? :P

 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  16:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't know, VFDan. It's a good idea, and I would love to see this on the wiki.
Ew10528 (talk | contribs) 11:55, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Welcome templates

 Done

A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:

10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?

To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.

I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can ?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

It has happened again...
--  Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,421)  Scratch  Directory  20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different??
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Can't we make a User_talk:ACCEPTEDUSER/Welcomes page?
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,079)) 20:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

That doesn't actually cause a ping tho...
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

We could make it ping though if there is someone willing to mess with the code...
smileycreations15 (talk | contribs) 11:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

I was just scrolling through the CP, and this caught my eye. Great idea, I definitely think this needs to be considered. I understand that people are just trying to be kind by sending the welcome messages, but it would almost be like a horror film for the person who owns the account. I think 4-5 welcome templates are enough, but I think there needs to be a break between even those. Getting 4-5 welcomes in a couple of seconds is also not the best of ideas.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 17:55, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

We should ask new users for their opinion on this right after they get the welcomes.
TenType (talk | contribs) 00:06, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

I think 4-5 is a good limit. I personally liked getting welcomes, but I only got 3 of them.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 14:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

I'm a fairly new user, and I got 4 welcomes. It seemed fine for me, so I agree that 4-5 sounds like a good limit.
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 01:23, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘How about one or two users post a template, or we just use the automatic one at the top, and then people below can put encouraging words (not large templates) followed by a sig? This would not be too much for the user, but still shows lots of people are there to support them!
--  Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,421)  Scratch  Directory  15:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Maybe we can create a welcome template, and a bot automatically adds it for every new user. Any user edit it (just like an article). Maybe there could be in it for all the users that contributed.

 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:21, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Please fix your signature!

No, the point of each user having their own welcome template is for them to be specific to the user welcoming - a different message for each one. If they just wanted to add their name to a stock welcome they could reply to the {{welcome}} message added by default. However, 10 users posting personalized welcomes is a lot of different welcomes to read - which is why it needs limiting.

Seems like 4-5 is the limit we've agreed on; for the sake of looseness, the limit is now 5 welcome messages at most on any new user's talk page (not including the {{welcome}} message; does not apply to users created before this decision).

@Nambaseking01: Limiting the rate of welcomes is a separate topic that should be proposed separately.

This topic is now  Done
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Block Problems

 Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken
Today I started to finish up the script for How to Evaluate an Expression, and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else — it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in Show preview mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in this forum topic?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this?
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

You can use this page.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...

@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks!
TenType (talk | contribs) 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Wait, is it possible to convert forum scratchblocks to wiki scratchblocks????
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  03:20, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

<scratchblocks>define scratch</scratchblocks>

It will give:

define scratch

See also: Block Plugin
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 20:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

New Featured Images

 Done

Hey! Soon, on August 12th, it'll have been a month since we updated the Featured Images yet. This time, I don't want to do them late like I have in the past, so does anyone have any suggestions?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

A photo of somewhere tropical.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand - is this a joke (if it isn't, I'm not trying to offend; simply trying to understand)?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

It is.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

The _:))_ emoji. Looks nice and funny.
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 01:23, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

You mean literally feature the picture? I guess that works LOL

I'd suggest File:Statistic Rollover Info.png because it looks cool and has a random interesting piece of info :)
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  07:42, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

It's been August 12th, does that mean this discussion is now for the next featured image change? Or can this be archived?
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 18:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Giving Credit on the Wiki

 Done

I think that we should make a template for credit like this:

Credit to Scratch-Coding for this template.

. It would be helpful. We could use the remix button image instead of the one I have.
Scratch-Coding (Talk |Scratch |(391 edits) 00:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

When and where will it be used?
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,154edit 01:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

What would you use this for, and why? The wiki is a collaboration and we all own a part of it. No one owns a article unless they created it on there userspace where they can so whatever they want with it.
ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  01:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Templates are mainly created for mainspace Wiki articles — when and why would this be needed?
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

It would be used on userspaces, giving credit for a image, and giving credit for an example.
Scratch-Coding (talk | contribs) 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

You can use it on your userspace but I don't think it's necessary. Btw: What did you do to your signature? It's broken.
ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

This wouldn't be that beneficial to the Wiki, especially if it is mostly used on userspace. I still disagree.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Who would use it?
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't think this is necessary. If you need to credit someone you don't need a template. Furthermore, you wouldn't need to credit anyone on mainspace, this is collaborative and we don't get/need credit for what we write here.
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Giving credit is not needed in mainspace and can be done manually:

Credit to Scratch-Coding for this template.
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 23:41, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Let's go ahead and consider this  Done.
--  Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,421)  Scratch  Directory  17:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Tinkercad Codeblocks

Tinkercad has a new feature called Codeblocks that looks similar to Scratch. It has hat blocks and variables. I think this could have a page on this wiki.
LiamSapp123 (talk | contribs) 19:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Does it have a specific connection to Scratch in particular though? We don't have a page on Blockly, even though it's a similar concept (and even though 3.0 has Blockly code in it).
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Maybe we should have one about Blockly
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:31, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

I agree that we should make one on Blockly.
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 01:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

 Further discussion needed
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:11, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

What happened to link previews?

 Done They don't seem to be showing up for me at all anymore. Anybody else?
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  02:44, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Same here. Did someone turn it off?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Also not getting previews (or at least when I tried it on Image Hosting, linked above). I'll ping jvvg (since he was the one who enabled them).
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Any reply from jvvg yet?
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  01:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Have you found any information on this yet, anybody?
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  23:22, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

It works again for me now!
TenType (talk | contribs) 21:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Works for me too!
Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 23:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Same! I guess this is  Done now, then?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 00:55, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it has begun working for me again :) Updated.
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  04:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Scratch program image

 Not done
The image showing the scratch program should be 3.0, not 2.0, right?
Mohie (talk | contribs)

Not necessarily, we use the 2.0 version for historical references. So, we should have to images for this. One for 3.0, and one for 2.0.

Also, could you link to what you're talking about, please? It would be so much easier for someone to know what you were talking about easily.
-unsigned comment by 12944qwerty (talk | contribs)

He meant the picture of the Scratch program shown in Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents needs to be updated to 3.0. Could an admin do this?
TenType (talk | contribs) 23:25, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Okay... So is there going to be another section for 3.0, or is 2.0 going to be merged with 3.0?

And also, TenType is correct. I do mean the SW TOC.

Mohie (talk | contribs) 16:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki Adventure

 Not done

On Wikipedia, there is an option for new Wikians to complete the Wikipedia Adventure. This teaches them skills and covers all the basics of using Wikipedia. I think it'd be a good idea to create a Scratch Wiki Adventure of our own to teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki. This would include editing tips, rules, etiquette, etc. I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on this idea and/or if anyone would like to work with me on creating this.
54329 (talk | contribs) 17:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

+1
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

I hope you're prepared to put in the amount of work involved, because The Wikipedia Adventure is really involved (I've done it once before) and a lot of stuff has to be created for it to work. I like the idea, but I don't know if anyone here has the follow-through to actually focus on a project like this that could take a week or more to make.

If you think you can commit yourself (and furthermore get others to commit themselves) you can make a Scratch Wiki Project of it. Good luck!
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Woohoo; we got bureaucratic approval! I think we can do it (maybe not as well as the Wikipedia Adventure, but still good). I'll start thinkin' up some basic ideas to start us off. If anyone is interested in working with me on this, please let me know on my talk page.
54329 (talk | contribs) 05:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Isn’t this going to be a duplicate of the welcome tutorial?
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:41, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

No, the Wikipedia Adventure is really involved and more interactive.
TenType (talk | contribs) 06:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Adding on, when I did it, it felt a lot more like a game/activity than a guidebook. It allows the user to actually collaborate, talk to people and create/edit a page all in a sandbox setting. It helped me learn the basics of Wikipedia far more than a guide could (probably because I was really interested in it and getting those shiny badges was nice).
54329 (talk | contribs) 06:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

SWP 003 - Scratch Wiki Adventure

Description	Status	Owner	Started	Links
Create the Scratch Wiki Adventure "game" to help teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki in a fun, interactive setting.	Waiting for MediaWiki extension...	Owner: 54329 Assigned: TenType 12944qwerty Apple502j Scratch-Coding Jammum Dominic305 JJBullet Kenny2scratch Nambaseking01 GrahamSH ahmetlii	11/21/2019	Project results
				Project page
				Project discussion

kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I can help some tech stuff maybe?
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,154edit 17:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I can help too!
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I want to help too, so should I add myself or should 54329 do it as he's the owner?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  01:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

In reply to both of you: Thanks for offering to help out! I'll add both of your names to the list. For future people that wish to help: feel free to just add your name under the "Assigned" section.
54329 (talk | contribs) 05:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

I just took a quick glance at the Wikipedia Adventure, and that looks cool! I created a very different page a while ago with the same goal of educating New Wikians using a sort of quest system - you can check it out at User:Bigpuppy/Quests. It seems like this would be very different than that, though. Good idea!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘That's super cool that you made a quests page. This will be semi-similar. Feel free to stop by if you have any ideas for it. wink wink
54329 (talk | contribs) 08:03, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Moving Plural page titles to singular

 Done On the wiki, there are many page titles like "Blocks" and "Numbers". This makes it confusing to users and editors, as well as links. "[[Block]]s makes a link to singular that appears plural, but there is no equivalent for singular-appearing plural-leading links.

This is a big change in the Wiki, so further discussion will be needed to manage the moves.
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 00:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Could we start a Scratch Wiki Project? I  definitely think we should keep the pages consistently singular.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 02:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Singular page titles would seem strange, since the plural describes a general thing, there is not only one. Also, I fixed a spelling mistake.
-unsigned comment by Congyingzhou (talk | contribs)

Many page titles cannot be made into plural form. Having both plural and singular forms is confusing and creates other problems. Singular page titles are also easier to work with, as I said in my first post. Also, remember to not change other users' posts without permission.

Should I put {{move}} on the plural pages?
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 00:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

I'll put the template on as soon as possible (on the bottom)
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 03:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Next time, don't add {{move}} to all of them; either move them all right away or wait. It makes a bunch of edits in Recent Changes which will all need to be undone when the final decision is decided.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:02, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

So should we move them or not, and how will we do it? We will also need to fix many links and redirects.
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 00:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Or should we just mark the pages and get a bot to move the, fix all the redirects and links, and change any other issues?
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ So should we move any of this pages? It's been over 2 months now.
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 21:31, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I guess it depends on context
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,079)) 21:26, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

2.0 Image Updating

A lot of images here need updating to 3.0. For example, the editor in the TOC, many Scratch Cats, etc. When will this be done?
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 10:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I've asked an admin to update the TOC image. Not sure about the other ones.
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 16:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

There's not a set time when this will be done. It will be done gradually. Any time you see an image that needs updated, feel free to update it (but be sure to compress, crop, etc. the file).
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  01:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! January 30^th, 2020

Welcome to the 25^th Thankful Thursday! January 30^th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Thankful Thursday

Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User	Thanks
The Scratch Wiki Adventure Team	I was amazed when seeing the discussion about this at the CP! Good luck on making it, team - you'll do a fantastic job! Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:35, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs)	Since the creation of your account, each time I look through the recent changes, I almost always see your name there. You're constantly making contributions to various pages improving the Scratch Wiki. Thank you for all of your efforts and help! 54329 (talk | contribs) 20:52, 2 January 2020 (UTC) Wow, dude! That's an amount of edits! Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 17:18, 7 January 2020 (UTC) Thanks for your impressive effort to clean up every corner of the wiki and providing impetus to help with the same. Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 03:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Groko13 (talk | contribs)	You good? You joined after me and seem to be rocking this place up! Fantastic job, my friend, you are doing some awesome contributions to the Scratch Wiki already! Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 20:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)	You just became an EW, like, three months ago and you are already rocking up the Scratch Wiki! I can already see the amount of people being accepted into the SW as a contributor increasing! That's a big inspiration for me to become an EW one day ;) Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC) You always make sure the wiki is running nicely and try your best to fix mistakes and problems. CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 00:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Tabourettable (talk | contribs)	You have some strength, don't you? ;) No matter how mistakes you make, you keep getting motivated to edit this place more. I decided I could help you with your motivation, I can see the future shining that you'll be an AWESOME editor. Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
banana439monkey (talk | contribs)	You always point out wrong things if there is a discussion between other people in a funny way and also know how to critcise someone without...uhh...being harsh or anything, just plain funny. Congrats, my friend who gave me karma in a talk page message... Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Jammum (talk | contribs)	You seem cool! Also, you indirectly helped me with a mouse pointer dialogue! Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:04, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Hellounicorns2 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for the awesome font — I really like it! Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:04, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

“

There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

”

The next TT is February 27^th. See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

 Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Why won’t this table work?

 Not done

Link: User:Waffle_Iron_Studios/ScratchNet shop page
Waffle_Iron_Studios (talk | contribs) 21:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I think it's because the table does not have any line-breaks. See this.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! February 27^th, 2020

Welcome to the 26^th Thankful Thursday! February 27^th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Thankful Thursday

Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User	Thanks
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs)	Thank you for your impressive amount of contributions to the Scratch Wiki! Keep up the good effort! TenType (talk | contribs) 02:17, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
IsaiahContreras (talk | contribs)	Thanks for your hard work as soon as you joined the Wiki! Keep up the great work! --  Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,421)  Scratch  Directory  15:55, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)	Thank you for patrolling so diligently! You're precisely what I search for in an EW (not that others aren't) - thanks for being so faithful to the Wiki. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:41, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
Dominic305 (talk | contribs)	Thank you for reminding me to post TT! Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:56, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

“

There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

”

The next TT is March 26^th. See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

 Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

New Featured Images

 Done

Does anyone have suggestions for new featured images after these ones have run their course?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:52, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

We should really have a better system for suggesting featured images... (see Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions)
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

I agree.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

What does everyone think about this one?

bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:12, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

+1, that image looks good. I'm quite partial to this one:

I also like the look of this image of the ST:

How does everyone feel about these?
Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 21:53, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

lol did you see my message to RC stalkers

I like those - I don't necessarily think we should have two "ST Tips" images though, so I think we should choose one more.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:42, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

How about this one?

bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:34, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘yes I did :P

+1 to that image highlighting the signature. This should be useful to answer all the forum questions about signatures!

I think we'll go with the two images that you've suggested and the one of the ST. Can we get an admin to update this please? :)
Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 22:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Does it look okay?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:59, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Yep - looks great!
Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 08:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

IWB Interwiki Check

Hello everyone. It's been awhile since IWB has scanned the wikis for interwikis to add, and now is probably a good time to do that!

Below you'll find a list of proposed edits from the bot. It would be helpful if a few people could look at some proposed edits and double check them for errors:

User:InterwikiBot/Proposed_Edits

Several issues have already been discovered:

• Not properly handling empty interwikis, ex en:, see the ja homepage
• test -> tw
• The bot is proposing adding interwikis to other pages when they already have an interwiki for that language
• Help:Namespaces has a flat out wrong interwiki suggestion

This might take another round or two to remove perviously undiscovered bugs, but with the wikis growing more complex, it's important to get them now. Thank you
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:37, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Advertising article

We really need to overhaul this article. A lot of it is just advertising the product. For example, do we really need a "Buying" section?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 23:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Scratch Bit has also a buying section. But the entire page is just an ad.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 08:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

I've moved the GoPiGo article to the creator's userspace (which has precedent - see the last topic on User talk:DexterInd) and removed the categories & advertisement notes.

Scratch Bit is an official Scratch product and must be documented. It stays.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Sonic the Hedgehog

Right now the wiki is saturated with Sonic the Hedgehog stuff, specially the AF pages. Lots of example of stuff are Sonic stuff. The entire wiki feels like an indirect Sonic ad. We should change a lot of this examples.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 11:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Other than April Fools pages, could you give a few examples?
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 13:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Just wiki search Sonic or Hedgehog. Also a lot of examples are by PrincessPandaLover and need to be changed int more generic stuff.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 14:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken, the Sonic stuff is limited to only AF pages. It's fine to gradually phase AF pages away from Sonic content while making other edits to the pages, but don't go mass editing out Sonic stuff. (Do note that I don't really see a problem with a Sonic theme in AF pages lol)
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  16:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

I agree. PrincessPandaLover has always been an excellent editor - they enjoyed to utilize the Sonic theme within their edits.  Done
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:10, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German

Currently, the links under the 'Legal' category do not are not mentioned that they are in German. I suggest that the footer mentions that the content under the Legal category are in German.

Without mentioning that, some people might be confused that they are in German, and not English. They also cannot be translated into English without it being inaccurate.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 13:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Why would they be German?
OurPrincess (talk | contribs) 16:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

The Wiki servers are located in Germany and therefore follow the rules/regulations of Germany.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Would you be amenable to using the external link marker on them instead? Putting "(German)" on a footer link seems unorthodox...
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

The servers are German because they are owned by Martin Wollenweber, who lives in Germany.
OurPrincess (talk | contribs) 11:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Maybe the Privacy Policy and the Disclaimers can be individually labelled that they are in German, or is that still 'unorthodox'? They could have 'in German' put in brackets after them.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 13:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

I think it's fine the way it is, but it should get translated for other wikis so we know what happens to our data.
--  Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,421)  Scratch  Directory  17:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Did you read the OP? They can't be translated accurately.

Having a notice at the top of the actual pages saying something similar to what I say on my userpage (the "many other wikis link here" thing), ideally translated into everything, would also be fine for me - I'm only opposed to changing the footer.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Updating Translators page

The Scratch Team is no longer actively maintaining the translators page https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Translators

I'd like to remove the Scratch Team only badge and allow folks from the translation community to update the page. Ideally there would be just one or two people per language that would keep things up to date for their language.

Would there be a different process for translators to join as a wiki editor? Are there different suggestions for having the translators page managed by the community?

Thanks, --Chris
-unsigned comment by Chrisg (talk | contribs)

Ok! I'll remove the banner at the top of the page for you. As for the translation community updating the page, we can not allow a different application processes for translators joining the wiki, though they are welcome to follow the current application processes and join the wiki that way. Also if they chose not to join they can always leave a post on the Community Portal in the forums with what should be updated and one of our editors will happily make the change. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 16:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

How will you let all the translators know they can use the Scratch CP, or join the Wiki for editing the page?
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:41, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

The translators have internal commmunication mechanisms including email blasts via transifex or messages in slack. I believe that Chris can easily relay the message to the translators if necessary.  Done
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:09, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Turbo Mode

 Done

This article is very outdated, I believe we should create an article on Turbo Mode itself.

 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  22:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

I agree - there is an article about Detecting Turbo Mode, but there doesn't seem to be one about Turbo Mode, as Turbo Mode just redirects to that article.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

The problem seems to be fixed as there is now a template saying it is from a historical perspective.
OurPrincess (talk | contribs) 18:06, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

There is - however, I don't believe that is the problem here. I think the problem VFDan is referring to is that there is not an article about Turbo Mode.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:11, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

That is what I am referring to; I believe we should create an article about Scratch 3.0's Turbo Mode

 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  00:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

You could create an article entitled "Turbo Mode (3.0)" and redirect Turbo Mode to that page instead of to the historical page.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Created the page, and changed the redirect. However the page is in dire need of expansion.

 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  17:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Marked as  Done however the article still needs expansion
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

How to make a quiz

[big] What Is A Quiz? [/big]
-unsigned comment by Cs1760724 (talk | contribs)

This isn’t the purpose of the Community Portal.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

I was actually just about to make a tutorial for that. What a coincidence~!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Creating a Quiz already exists.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

I've redirected How to Make a Quiz to Creating a Quiz.
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, please don't make topics on Scratch-related topics on the Scratch Wiki! For that, you can go to the Scratch "Help with Scripts" or "Questions about Scratch" forums: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/7/ https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/4/
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:39, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

@Jammum I meant on my website :) (it's been created). I'm going to call this topic  Done
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:07, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

WikiMonitor is hurting me

 Done

Wow, so I just added the {{Done}} and {{-}} templates before the title of a message, and I signed my message under it. The only thing is, I accidentally forgot to add the done thing, so I had to edit my post and put that there. That message was from Wikibot. And then, when I did that, I got another message from WikiMonitor saying that I didn't sign the post meanwhile I'd just added the templates to the title.

Now, maybe this sounds very stupid, but I'm pretty sure I've done this before and WikiMonitor didn't come at me like that. What's going on?
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:37, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

The problem is that you forgot to sign the edit where you added {{done}}, which caused WikiMonitor to message you. I've left a tip on your talk page (wow you already responded to it)
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:20, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

I am a fast clicker when it comes to messages on the SW (I feel strangely lonely here XD)
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 09:43, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Well, I guess this is  Done now.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 12:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Lancer PFP trend

In the last few days, a PFP trend about Lancer from Deltarune has been on many Scratcher's PFPs. They normally replace the eyes and mouth of their face to Lancer's eyes and mouth. @-BoyMcBoy- was the first popular Scratcher to do it, and he got the face from @MusicManJoe. Is this notable enough to add to the Scratch Trends page?

PaddlerGames (talk | contribs) 12:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I have not seen this trend at all on Scratch.
--  Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,421)  Scratch  Directory  02:56, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Neither have I
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  17:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

I have not personally seen it myself, although I can confirm that it does appear to be a trend. I have seen and responded to almost a dozen or more forum topics asking about this trend.
Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 19:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki YT Channel

Hi everyone! I wanted to put a little feeler out there to see who was interested in participating/creating content for a possible Scratch Wiki YT Channel. We would publish wiki-like content within YT's video format. We could then link to this content from within the Wiki. You could for example create a Scratch tutorial, run-through a certain block or feature, or discuss a recent community venture you participated in. If y'all are interested in seeing this idea come to fruition, please comment to express your interest and volunteer yourself for content creation. Thanks!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 14:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I think that this would compete with the Scratch Wiki Adventure though...
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  15:04, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I don't really see much benefit in it. Why would we need this? We already have Wiki Wednesday.
--  Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,421)  Scratch  Directory  15:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Well we would be able to produce varied content aside from Wiki Wednesday. People have also suggested tutorials for S:WELCOME to me privately. We'd be modeling it in some regards to Wikipedia's YT Channel.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 16:32, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I'm interested! But... What do you mean by "volunteer yourself for content creation"? Is there a specific page to apply?
Dilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page

I'm interested too — I'd like to help make a few videos. I already have a YouTube channel but I can't share it because of my real name and face reveal. I'm just ten years, but I don't think that will affect anything as I enjoy talking on-camera and a lot of people tell me I have a talent for vlogging / gaming (not to brag though). I also have a Scratch tutorial series, so I already have some experience with it.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 09:18, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Scratch Links

 Done

Maybe we can add a new brackets thing for Scratch Links. For example: [[Scratch/User:Example]] or [[Scratch/Project:Example]]. For other links, we could just do [[Scratch:{stuff after scratch.mit.edu/}]]. Thoughts?
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  23:30, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

My reasoning for this is that it looks much better if it looked like an internal link instead of an external link.
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  17:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea!
GrahamSH (talk | contribs) 20:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

"Scratch/Project:" is too long of a prefix IMO and also they shouldn't have caps. I've been considering adding project: and studio: - is there any other type of thing on Scratch that gets linked to often?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  00:53, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Well we already have Discussion Forums, possibly user:? I don't know how often this would be linked to though.
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  14:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC)┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

I created a template for Scratch links in here and it worked. Everybody can use it with this code:{{scratch|write there your link code(when you write studios and projects' code, don't use their names)|write in there why are you using it:user,studio,project}}
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 20:20, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Ahmetlii, please correct me if I'm wrong, but your template still seems to produce external links. VFDan is suggesting a system that would produce internal links. I've re-marked this section as  Not done.

Also, a template-related thing: you put <onlyinclude> tags around the {{/doc}}, but they should have been <noinclude> tags, because you don't want to include the doc in the template. Overall though, nice template!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:40, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

(I've fixed the <onlyinclude> error)
bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for edits Bigpuppy. I saw your edits and my mistake. My template is still a temporary solution because it's pretty new template and including problems. I will remove external links as soon as possible.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 21:06, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

EWs or above can just set up Interwiki to do links to projects, users, and studios.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:16, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

A quick correction - it looks like only bureaucrats can edit Interwiki data.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 19:30, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

user: won't work - that conflicts with the User: namespace. I've added project: and studio: now, though. We'll need to figure out an alternative for linking to Scratch users - maybe users:?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  01:47, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘What about profile:?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:09, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

^^^ profile: should work.
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:17, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Yea profile: seems good.
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  15:24, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Alright,  Done! I've also added a general-purpose scratch: whose argument is just the path after the slash - [[scratch:conference]] produces scratch:conference.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  16:40, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! This will be really helpful for editors!
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  16:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Added it to S:STYLE, at internal-scratch-links.
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  23:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ TenType pointed out something very relevant - Project:104 links to Scratch Wiki:104! I'd forgotten about this - "project" is a namespace alias for whatever the meta-namespace is. I've renamed project: to projects: to get around this; and for consistency, studio: is now studios: and profile is now users: (the last one because "users" isn't a namespace while "user" is). The scratch: prefix remains unchanged. FYI!
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  02:24, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Cool! Thanks, TenType and Ken.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! April 30^th, 2020

Welcome to the 27^th Thankful Thursday! April 30^th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Thankful Thursday

Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User	Thanks
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs)	Being one of this wiki's few active users, and making some amazing edits.  VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  02:49, 5 April 2020 (UTC) Definitely agreeing with VFDan on this one. Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 16:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
StampDanFan (talk | contribs)	Making some edits that many people wouldn't even think about.  VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  22:32, 12 April 2020 (UTC) I thought VFDan was joking until I checked the Recent Changes ;-; Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 16:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
jvvg (talk | contribs)	Even though I've had bad experiences with WikiMonitor in the past, it's still an awesome bot that the Wiki would be empty without. Thank you so much for coding it, man! Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 16:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Banana439monkey (talk | contribs)	Stop. With. The. Edits. I can't thank you everytime Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 16:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Drunken Sailor (talk | contribs)	You were inactive for a while (when I was here back in the day) and now you've taken over Recent Changes. Wow. Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 16:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC) I've seen so many helpful edits from you recently! Thanks so much, you're amazing! bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)	How in the world can I leave without talking you? Thank you, sire, for being this active around here! Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 16:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)	Thank you for always doing what Ken asks us to do (just stop ninja'ing me >:/)  VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  17:40, 15 April 2020 (UTC) As Per Tradition :P Thank you for being in my life XD Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 09:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC) Thanks for everything you do! bigpuppy talk | contribs 00:48, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
Dilek10 (talk | contribs)	Back in November 2019, you were the dude who taught me that it's not wrong to add Thankful Thursday thanks on other days than Thursdays. Go check on your talk page XD Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 09:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Coder2045 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for your edits, they're appreciated greatly! bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:35, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for all your helpful edits to the wiki recently, and for complimenting so many people! People like you make the wiki a better place. bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:26, 19 April 2020 (UTC) Thanks for making (sometimes funny puns.  VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  02:44, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Accountcraft123 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for your edits and enthusiasm when joining the Scratch Wiki! We're excited to have you here! bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:20, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
DragonAero (talk | contribs)	Thanks for using your first ever mainspace edit to do an important contribution!  VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  23:51, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Ew10528 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for your helpful edits, and welcome to the Scratch Wiki! bigpuppy talk | contribs 00:43, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

“

There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

”

The next TT is May 28^th. See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 14:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 14:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't know if MakeTheBrainHappy wants to fix this, but It says "...brings there own ideas" where it should say "...brings their own ideas" :P
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  18:13, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Can someone please help

Can someone protect this talk page archive?
Dilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 11:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done - in the future please place such requests on S:CPSYS.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  12:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, and alright!
Dilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 11:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Scratch + the Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics by Stephen Wolfram

Hi everyone! I've been asked to give you a heads up about an excellent program over on the DE Wiki: Scratch Club. I've been a few times (and would love to attend more) and the discussions relate both the Wiki and fascinating technology. The meetings are for international audiences as well with English as a standardized language. Here is a little sneak peak as to what they will be discussing at the next meeting taking place on May 20th, 2020 at *6:30 G.M.T - 8:30 C.E.S.T (Germany)*.

• Offtopic: https://youtu.be/60P7717-XOQ (Stephen Wolfram: Computing a Theory of Everything) - This month Stephen Wolfram presented a breakthrough in his thoughts concerning the creation of an entirely new model of the world based on Automata Theory. He thereby wishes to better explain the laws concerning space, time, energy and matter in a clearer light than previous models. In this manner he is one step closer to achieving his life goal which he presented in the TED-talk linked above ten years ago. Here is his presentation from 4/14/2020 in which he explains his theories as well as he can and affords all interested listeners an opportunity to share his joy in the solution. If his theory is correct, it may be a breakthrough as great as that of Newton and Einstein. Fascinating! https://youtu.be/rbfFt2uNEyQ (Wolfram Physics Project Launch: 14. April 2020)
• The topic above isn't *offtopic* at all but a great idea for us! Who will find the Scratch program that best interprets "Rule 30"? Or who will program it? Who will write a Scratch Wiki article for it that is of such quality that it will be in Wiki Wednesday for both the English and German Wikis at the same time? *This must become a theme within the Scratch community* Why? It is the best example for Scratch's motto: "low floor high ceiling." Every student can appreciate "Rule 30" and even program it, but the implications point to a "Theory of Everything."
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_30 (EN)
  • https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regel_30 (DE)
  • https://youtu.be/VguG_y05Xe8 (Cellular Automata and Rule 30 (Stephen Wolfram) AI Podcast Clips)
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton
  • Conway's Game of Life (Artikel here with the most relevance - DE only)
  • https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/388985821/ (the first Scratch project I discovered)
  • What Stephen Wolfram has discovered now after fifty years of research efforts and the subject of his new book being published at the end of May is a setup for Cellular Automata with which you can model everything from particle physics to cosmology... but now we are desperately looking for the "correct rule." This would be an analogy to the previous "Rule 30" that inspired Stephen's interest to study this new field of science: "the complexity theory."
  • Here Stephen Wolfram explains why he decided to make his quest (essentially the search for a new Rule 30 that explains what holds the world together) a public project: https://youtu.be/DwjAVp0ig9g (Wolfram Physics Project: Why we Chose to do Science in the Open with Q&A on the Backstory)
  • Book Recommendation 1: „ Stephen Wolfram - 2020 - A Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics“ - Das Buch will be published at the end of May https://www.amazon.de/dp/1579550355/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_NkRQEb52WCN8C
  • Book Recommendation 2: „Stephen Wolfram - 2016 - A New Kind of Science (English Edition“ (Ein 10 cm thick doorstopper (very thick book), that has so many pictures it is a sight to behold even for those without perfect English reading comprehension) https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B01N1I83V8/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=
  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton - Reference: „Wolfram has conjectured that many class 4 cellular automata, if not all, are capable of universal computation. This has been proven for Rule 110 and Conway's Game of Life.“
  • https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zellul%C3%A4rer_Automat - within this article it discusses “Wolframs one-dimensional Universe“ (+ Rule 110)
  • https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=E8kUJL04ELA&list=PLt5AfwLFPxWIL8XA1npoNAHseS-j1y-7V (Playlist - John Conway on Numberphile including „ Does John Conway hate his Game of Life?“ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Horton_Conway - John Horton Conway (* 26. Dezember 1937 in Liverpool, United Kingdom; † 11. April 2020 in New Brunswick, New Jersey, United States) was a British mathematician.
• Determine the "Scratch Project of the Week"
• Suggest Wiki-Wednesday Articles
• ggf. Post the News! (DE)
• Go through the latest messages, specifically [1], review author task list [2]

I hope that you find these topics interesting yourself and mark down the time to join the meeting! Please let @MartinWollenweber know if you are interested in joining the group where the discussion will take place.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 15:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Makethebrainhappy: Thank you very much for translating and sharing with the english Scratch Wiki Community! I hope this idea is as interesting to some of you as it is to me. Hope some of you "catch fire" and start their own creative activities. What do you think?
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  15:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

...I keep wanting to join, but I'm afraid I've been struck down once again by the time - 8:30pm CEST = 2:30am HKT ._.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  02:43, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

IMHO it‘s not important, to join the scheduled german Scratch Club Onlinemeeting, but to consider if and how we integrate Stephen Wolframs breakthrough into Scratch and Scratch Wikis activities.
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:58, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

@Makethebrainhappy: Would you mind if we change the subject to " Sratch + the Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics by Stephen Wolfram" ? It's more about that than about the "Scratch Club Meetings (DE)"...
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  18:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

No, not at all.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:39, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, de:SC will start next week Wednesday 20.5. at 20:30 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Time Makethebrainhappy knows how to join (please don't share our Google Hangout Link public!!)
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  15:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Revamping and Reviving S:CPND

 Done

Yes, I know there are already two topics about this, but this one has a very specific suggestion that can be implemented relatively quickly if people agree.

As you probably know, there's a section of the CP specifically for topics that are not yet done and haven't been done for a while. Users can access it by going to Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done or S:CPND, or alternatively via the "Things to Do" link under "For Editors" in the sidebar. The unavoidable fact is that these topics hardly ever get looked at. By anyone.

There have already been two topics created about this issue and how to solve it, Not Done doesn't get enough attention and Not Done. Kenny2scratch introduces his topic (the former one) with "So I was browsing through Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done and realized that all of the discussions had been moved there and left to rot simply because they happened to last longer than an archive period." The unfortunate thing is, this is still happening. And not only that, but ironically, it's happening to both of the topics I linked. Ken's is from February of (drumroll, please) 2018. I am not about to propose a "cure-all" solution to this problem, but something that could help. In other words, it definitely won't solve the problem, but it might assist a bit in solving it.

Well, let's get onto the idea already, shall we? I think that when people do hear about Not Done, and go to it (wanting to contribute to a discussion), they may get frightened by the overwhelming length of some of the topics and leave without contributing to any of them. Therefore, here is my suggestion: we put each discussion (not its corresponding header) into an "extended content" box using {{collapse top}} and {{collapse bottom}}. Then under the header, but not in the "extended content" box, we add a short, one to three sentence summary of what the OP is saying (and perhaps even more things, like what has been discussed so far). I've created a mockup with two discussions here.

I think that this way, when folks go to S:CPND, they can easily find a discussion they'd like to contribute to (without being scared away quickly). Then, when they find a discussion they're interested in, they can un-collapse the box and read the replies so that they can give their opinion. They won't be scared away because they didn't see tons of long discussions at the same time, they just saw short suggestions. Then they see one long discussion after they un-collapse the box — the one they're interested in.

What do you think?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:03, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

+1 :-)
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  15:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

I have the same opinion with Bigpuppy, also I have a suggestion: We can archive some of the Not Done topics, because they are not discussed actively and some of them outdated.It's still a big problem.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 20:09, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, I like the idea but looking at your mockup I'm not sure how well it'd work in practice. I feel like it might be a better idea to let the OP(ost) of each topic be the summary, and rather collapse away all of the subsequent discussion so that it's easier to scroll past. If the OP(ost) itself is really long, then I suppose a manual summary might be in order, but unless the OP(oster) is inactive then it might be a good idea to let them do the summarizing themselves to best capture the essence of the idea. Does that make sense?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  16:37, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I definitely see what you're saying. What defines "really long" though?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 03:20, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Whichever human happens to be making the collapsing edit - there doesn't need to be a boundary, just leave it up to the judgement of whoever is doing the moving :)
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

+1, the mockup looks great!
TenType (talk | contribs) 20:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘To clarify, do you agree with Ken's idea as well, TenType?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I think the OP should be part the summary except in situations when its long.
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:45, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

that was fast

Okay, thanks for clarifying.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Alright, since there were no objections, I went ahead and collapsed (almost) all of the discussions on CPND. The two ones I didn't collapse were #custom signatures and #Account Request Notes because they caused the whole page to go into the collapsed box. If anyone can find the issue, feel free to fix it and collapse them. Thank you!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:46, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Pretty much  Done other than the above
bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Why is the interwiki link for the Test-Scratch Wiki the language code for Twi?

The interwiki code for the Test Wiki is 'tw', and the 'in Other Languages' section of the homepage says 'Twi', again with a link to the Test Scratch Wiki.

On it, there is no Test-Wiki for Twi, which seems to be an African language spoken in Ghana. If there is no Test-Wiki for Twi, why does the Interwiki link to the Test-Wiki use its language code?
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 09:22, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Actually, I saw it before in Wikipedia's ISO 639-3 language codes list a week ago, and I was going to say that. I think this code designed from Test Scratch Wiki. However, I think that it's not a big problem for now.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 11:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

test is not an inter-language code, so it's impossible to link to (say) the Test wiki CP using [[test:Test-Scratch-Wiki talk:Community Portal]] the same way we can for real languages. However, tw: happens to be a real language, whose language code is recognized as an inter-language code, whose language code can nicely stand for "test wiki", and whose language name can be repurposed to mean test wiki. If we ever do have a wiki in the actual Twi language, then things will have to change; but for now, we use "Twi" as a means of treating "test" as an inter-language link rather than inter-wiki.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  16:33, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Featured Image Suggestions?

 Done

Hey, folks! Does anyone have any suggestions for featured images for the next time we update them?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 03:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

How about this?

TenType (talk | contribs) 20:45, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

I like that one! How about this one?

If we do choose both of these, though, we should choose something not from the editor for the third one. This will provide some variety.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Didn't the sound recorder picture already get featured? It has the category Category:Featured Articles/Images.
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

I didn't notice that, lol. I wonder why it doesn't have the {{Featured}} template then?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:56, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe it was forgotten or something
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:58, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Well, now it does.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 03:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘How about this one?

bigpuppy talk | contribs 03:11, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Looks good!
TenType (talk | contribs) 03:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey, maybe this as well?
Dilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 06:34, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

I like that one!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

 Featured Images updated
bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:08, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

What are...

...common.js pages for?
Dilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 08:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Your common.js file is a JavaScript file that will run on all pages, no matter what skin you're using - but only for you. It's basically a Wiki-specific alternative to userscripts that MediaWiki supports natively.

Your common.css file is a CSS file that likewise applies to all pages you visit on all skins, only for you.

Changing "common" to the name of a skin, e.g. "scratchwikiskin2" will make it only apply to all pages when you are viewing them in that skin.

There are also MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css files (as well as their skin-specific equivalents) that run on all pages for all users. These can only be edited by admins.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh, so it's a customizable... Wiki theme, right?
Dilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 13:20, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Not really... it's basically a script in JavaScript that runs on every page you visit. To "customize" your Wiki theme, it would be easier to do it in Your common.css file
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  17:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

That means it can be used for things such as detecting stuff like viruses, right?
Dilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 18:46, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ No because they are applying for this website. Also, every user can customize and every user can add pop-ups, warnings when they logged in but nobody cannot detect viruses with these files. For example, there is a pop-up made with JavaScript file in right bottom.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  19:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion: Add a "sandbox" option in the user pull-down on the header

 Not done

My suggestion is above — that's pretty much it. When you click on your username, you would see your username, "Talk," "Preferences," "Watchlist," "Contributions," "Log out," and "Sandbox" thrown somewhere in there. "Sandbox" would direct you to your personal sandbox, not the public sandbox. If the user hasn't created their sandbox, it would direct them to the page to create it.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Sounds like a cool feature. +1!
Dilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 17:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea, but I think we can create a disambiguation page rather than direct to the personal sandbox. However, +1!
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 18:14, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia has this, but this is actually harder to implement than you might think - the skin does not hardcode the user dropdown links, they are generated by MediaWiki itself. Adding the sandbox link would require a hook somewhere in LocalSettings.php and that might mess up some rhythms. There could be a link in the For Editors box, though! Special:MyPage/Sandbox is a handy link. What say y'all?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  18:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I think that's a good alternative then!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:48, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Good idea!
TenType (talk | contribs) 18:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ +1!
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  19:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Ken, any update on this?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 00:30, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

sooo idk if this is off-topic

but lookie here alright I constantly go active and off-topic on the Scratch Wiki depending on my mood, but I still help a lot on the Scratch discussion forums in the meantime. is this an issue?
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 18:21, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Why would it be?
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,079)) 18:23, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

You are not under any obligation to stay active - if you need to take a break from Wiki editing, do. Edit when you feel like it. We don't block people or anything for being inactive.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  18:33, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Studio Articles

Hi! I was wondering if people can write articles on studios on the Scratch Wiki. The guidelines say if you are not allowed to advertise users or user-generated content. Does this apply to studios? I don't think it does because a Wikian wrote an article about the Scratch Design Studio. It merely explains what the SDC (Scratch Design Studio) is. So my question is can you write an article about a certain studio? Without advertising it of course, but merely explaining what the studio is and its purpose. I don't think I'll be writing any studio articles anytime soon but an answer would be much appreciated. If you would like to answer me on my talk page the link is here
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 21:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26

Articles about user-generated content (whether projects, studios, or anything else) are not allowed. The Scratch Design Studio is not user-generated content as it was created by the Scratch Team.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

That said, there are some exceptions.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

What about the Scratch Welcoming Committee? Or is that an exception?
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 21:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26

The Scratch Welcoming Committee is also an official Scratch Team studio, so it is not user-generated content.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Really? I didn't know that. I thought it was user generated but had a few ST members as managers. I don't really pay much attention to studios.
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 21:45, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26

Hi, please remember to indent properly - you can find a guide for indenting on the Welcome tutorial or Help:Talk Pages
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  02:29, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Please help me

Hello I am mastercoder4life. I am a new wikian and didn't understand the welcoming pages too well. Could someone please tell me how to insert a link?
Mastercoder4life (talk | contribs) 23:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Mastercoder4life! Welcome to the Scratch Wiki!

On the wiki we have two types of links — internal links and external links. You use internal links when you're linking to a page on the Scratch Wiki, Scratch, or Wikipedia. You use external links to link to any other sites.

To make an internal link, you use this syntax: [[NAME OF PAGE|LINK TEXT, IF APPLICABLE]] For example, if you wanted to link to the page about the Scratch Team, you'd do this: [[Scratch Team]] That would make this: Scratch Team Or you could do this: [[Scratch Team|ST]] That would make this: ST

You make an external link with this syntax: [URL LINKTEXT] For example, if you wanted to link to example.com, you could do this: [https://example.com/ Example] And that would make this: Example

For more information, visit Help:Links.

Again, welcome to the Scratch Wiki! We're happy to have you here!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 23:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

thanks so much!
Mastercoder4life (talk | contribs) 00:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

In the future please indent your replies, one more colon before each reply. I fixed your last comment for you, but in the future please indent. Look at the syntax for this conversation to see what I'm talking about, and for more information see Help:Welcome/4#Indenting.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 00:21, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi mastercoder4life. To learn how to link click here. Thank you for your contributions to the wiki : )
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 02:09, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Privacy policy in English?

The "privacy policy" link at the bottom of the page is in German. Is there one in English?
Donotforgetmycode (talk | contribs) 08:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

No, it's discussed in the past, and admins don't want to change it because of the laws and problems about the translation. See also to here.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  08:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh, OK. I still don't understand why it's dangerous to translate it.
Donotforgetmycode (talk | contribs) 17:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

You don't speak a foreign language then; some things are very tough to translate. One single error in translation could basically destroy this site.
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  18:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

macOS drops support for Scratch 1.4 on versions 10.14 and 10.15

Several replies in this forum topic say that macOS 10.14 and 10.15 drop support for 32-bit apps, including Scratch 1.4 and obviously other 1.x versions. The end of support for 32 bit apps on 10.15 is mentioned on Apple Inc's website here.

Where in this wiki should that information be put?
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 11:56, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Of course, the Scratch 1.x pages.
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,079)) 12:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

New Scratch Wiki Logo?

Hi! I think that because the main page of the Scratch Wiki and the scratchblocks have the new 3.0 style, why not the logo? I think that the Scratch Wiki logo needs an update. It has the old 2.0 style, and 2.0 is long gone. Please tell me your thoughts on this!
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 00:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

...? The Wiki logo currently uses the 3.0 version of the Scratch logo for the word "Scratch". Keep in mind that the Scratch Website had parts in 3.0 styling long before 3.0 came out.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:28, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Oh, never mind, I see the difference now. Still, there's no need for a new logo - this one works perfectly well and isn't completely outdated (like the old favicon was).
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:51, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

How to find user rank?

 Done

I joined the wiki nineteen days ago but I do not know my user rank (what is that called exactly?). How do I find it?
R4356th (talk | contribs) 17:43, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, R4356th. If you go into your preferences, it will show all of the user groups you are in (under "Basic information"). For a list of possible user groups and the rights that come with them, view this list.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you, @Bigpuppy.
R4356th (talk | contribs) 12:04, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Are "Public Sandboxes" Allowed?

Hey, basically, can we have a userpage that everyone can edit? In this case, can we make a user sandbox a public sandbox?
Dilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 16:34, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

New Wikians can't edit others' userpages by default; to remove this restriction on one of your userpages, add {{open userpage}}. As for whether what you're talking about is allowed, I don't see any problem with it. However, if someone else sees one, please point it out.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! That's what I meant.
Dilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 17:06, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Problems about mobile devices

 Probably done

When I'm making a edit in the Wiki, I sometimes see that my edits has a lot of paragraph error. I didn't do them on keyboard, but I saw an added space or a paragraph. For example, when I write "some times", it can seen as "evetimesry". I have no idea about why this problem is occurring, but it's a big problem when I write.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  19:39, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

This is likely a problem on your end. Try updating your system. You can also try switching the editor to plain-text mode using the colorful button on the top of the textbox.
--  Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,421)  Scratch  Directory  14:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. My system is up to date. I think it's related to editor's mode.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  08:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! May 28^th, 2020

Welcome to the 28^th Thankful Thursday! May 28^th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Thankful Thursday

Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User	Thanks
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs)	Thank you for your contributions and activity! Keep it up! TenType (talk | contribs) 02:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC) Thanks for your helps and edits! ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  10:44, 7 May 2020 (UTC) Thanks for staying active as an EW! You have no idea how much easier it is with you helping. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC) Thanks for being the most active user *grumbles*.  VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  17:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)	Thanks for your amazing canned edit summaries!  VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  21:55, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
apple502j (talk | contribs)	Thanks for adding https to the link here! bigpuppy talk | contribs 13:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC) Thanks for staying active as an EW! You have no idea how much easier it is with you helping. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs)	Thanks for helping someone on my talk page and for being very helpful on the wiki in general! bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:11, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for being so enthusiastic about editing! We need people like you! bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:11, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)	Thanks for being active and helpful in the Wiki! This wiki is now stregthened with your edits! ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  19:14, 19 May 2020 (UTC) Thanks for staying active as an EW! You have no idea how much easier it is with you helping. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Mastercoder4life (talk | contribs)	Thanks for being enthusiastic about contributing and making the wiki a better place! I'm grateful for people like you! bigpuppy talk | contribs 03:09, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

“

There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

”

The next TT is Wednesday, June 24^th, in conjunction with the 50^th Wiki Wednesday! See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 13:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

 Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 13:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Yay!
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  14:41, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Scratch Archive

The old Version of the Forum is archived here: https://scratcharchive.asun.co/forums/ (as far as I know it changed url several times, but I'm not sure). Does anybody know who owns and runs this website (I think it's one of us fellow Scratch-wiki-authores?). Could it be a good idea to archive it aditional on the Scratch-Wikis server in case the private persons who runs the archive discontionues it one day? There are so many historical references from the Scratch Wiki to the old forum that this could be usefull.
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  07:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Although they are no longer active on Scratch (as said on their profile, although they replied to a comment on their profile 28 days ago), comp09 likely owns it.

(I found that out via the 404 page of the archived 1.x Scratch Forums, which links to a website that I eventually found out had a link to it on their Scratch profile).
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Also http://asun.co links directly to https://andrewsun.com, which comp09 said on their profile is their site. Thus, it appears that comp09 is the owner of the forum archives.
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  00:24, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

scratcharchive.asun.co has been stable since 3 years. To myself, the best option is not archive again for now.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  11:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

It is owned by blob8108 to my knowledge. Its URL used to be http://scratchforums.blob8108.net/forums/ before and a post by jvvg stats that it is owned by him. I also think I saw him saying that it was owned by him on GitHub once. It might be a good idea to contact him.
R4356th (talk | contribs) 07:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Blob8108 transferred ownership to Andrew Sun (comp09) when the domain changed from scratchforums.blob8108.net to scratcharchive.asun.co.

To answer the original topic, since we have that power now it would probably be a good idea, but then again it would be a major link change operation (both when it comes to search results and links from Wiki or Scratch). I trust Andrew to say something if he doesn't think he can continue hosting the forum archives - if he does say anything, we can volunteer ourselves.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:42, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Problems with Categorizing a Page

I'm trying to get this page categorized... But I have a problem. It doesn't seem to be categorized. What should I actually do?
Dilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 12:41, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

CTRL+F5 Clean your cache.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  12:43, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Didn't work.
Dilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 12:47, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Just wait or close tab and look it another time. It'll update.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  13:04, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

it takes time to categorize. i believe the categorizer cron task runs 1-2 times a week
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 20:35, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Categorization is very slow for some reason so the cron job refreshes all link-related lists (including categories, Special:WhatLinksHere, and redirect lists) every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Just wait a few days.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:39, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

How do you upload an image?

How do you upload an image from your computer to a Wiki article? I check S:CHEAT and it didn't have anything that helped me. Garnetluvcookie 19:49, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Special:Upload

Note:

For the signature, just use pen button or "Sign your username:" section.

ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  20:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Or you can add 4 tildes, like this: ~~~~
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 20:48, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

Elections

Scratch Wiki has a lot of EW, I know, also election decision can create by only EWs and sysops with majority but I think the Scratch Wiki may need more EWs in a near future. What do you think about this?
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  10:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

We have plenty of EWs, and I don't see any need for more in the near future. There's probably not going to be another election for a long time.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:35, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

New Featured Images suggestions

 Done

Hello! The Featured Images were just updated, so does anyone have any ideas for new ones for next month?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:09, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  10:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

A few suggestions: here, here, and here.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 19:13, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

 I updated it with Ahmetlii's suggestion and Groko13's first two suggestions. Does it look okay? Does anything need to be changed?

I wasn't sure whether we were still fully following the Wiki Wednesday/Featured Images at the same time convention (it came about a while ago), so thank you Groko13 for your post here that mentioned the convention.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 03:56, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Looks good to me!
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 04:10, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

April Foooooools...?

8bitjake Hey guys. It's @8bitjake here. I've seen some April Fools articles, and I want to make one... but how?
8bitjake (talk | contribs) 20:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Just create an article named as Scratch Wiki:April Fools/(the name of article), then add {{AF}} template to the article you created. Write your fake article. Finally, add {{April Fools}} to top of the real article.

Note:

You don't use the your name again, use the signature instead and place it to end of your post.

ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  21:03, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

How do I use templates?

8bitjake (talk | contribs) 21:25, 8 June 2020 (UTC)8bitjakeI recently got my April Fools template question answered, but how do I even use a template in the first place?

8bitjake, welcome to the Scratch Wiki! You can transclude a template by placing two sets of curly brackets ({{ }}) around the template name. For example, {{doing}} would translude {{doing}}, to make  Doing.... You can do this with other namespaces too; for example, {{User:8bitjake}} would transclude your userpage.

Also, in the future, please place your signature after your message rather than before it. Thanks!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 23:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Merge Request

 Done

I think we should merge the Variable Monitor article with the Stage Monitor article. They're about the same exact subject. There's been a merge template on it for a while, but no one has said anything. Thoughts?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 18:47, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I have no idea, Scratch Wiki has a lot of things to do such as Scratch Wiki talk: Community Portal/Admin_Requests#Edit_of_a_protected_page, Special:Diff/249820 or Special:Diff/249838. Just wait, probably it will solve.

Note:

You can try to merge it if you can do.

ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  18:57, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I'll merge it when I get around to it (or someone else can)
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 20:49, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

I vote for a merge. We should leave a redirect though.
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  21:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Merged!
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 15:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

How to add an image on my user space?

i want to put my scratch profile picture on my userpage but the tutoriol seems too complicated and i cant understand it! is there a simpler way to do it?
Hani2018 (talk | contribs) 13:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Go to Special:Upload, upload the file, write description and file's name. Paste [[Category:Users' Images]] to end of the description.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  13:45, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!
Hani2018 (talk | contribs) 14:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

You're welcome. Please, use indents when replying.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  14:51, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

250000^th edit on the Wiki!

Congratulations to all of the Wiki users!
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  17:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:44, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Neat! How do you see how many edits there are?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 17:49, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

Just look at edit number when you click the edit. It will be shown on URL's "&oldid=" section.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  18:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

congrats! :D
Hani2018 (talk | contribs) 18:59, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

How do I move this page?

Apparently, this block was renamed to just Language (see talk page), so I tried moving the article to Language (block), but it wouldn't let me (I think because there is already a redirect page there). How am I supposed to move the page?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 22:13, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

I think it should let you overwrite most redirect pages, but since that page had more edits in its history than just making it a redirect, it didn't let you. I deleted the redirect and its associated talk page, then moved the page, so I'll mark this as  Done.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 23:19, 11 June 2020 (UTC)

How to create a sidebar?

On user bigpuppy’s profile I clicked edit and copied the code of the sidebar and pasted it to my user page but i don’t even know how to make a side bar. Here are the things that I wanted to change it:

• colour of sidebar:pink
• having my scratch profile picture on it
• having a link to my user page,talk page contributions page, and community portal.

Is there a easier code that can just be edited to make a custom sidebar?
Hani2018 (talk | contribs) 13:57, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

I recommend you to open a page named as User:Hani2018/Sidebar and then, add it to your pages with this code: {{User:Hani2018/Sidebar}}. You can change the colors and boxes by CSS <div> tags, so check Help:CSS for more information.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  14:03, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

How to make a April Fools userpage?

(Sorry if my spelling is bad, i am typing on an iPad) It's pretty self-explanatory, but if you really need to.... How do I make a April Fools version of my userpage? 14:37, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
-unsigned comment by Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs)

Create a page named as Scratch Wiki:April Fools/(your userpage's name) ,put your content with {{AF}}. Add {{April Fools}} to your original userpage.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  14:51, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Bad word filter

Someone must change the abuse filter.There's inappropriate content as fourth. And, lots of the edits are still showing by history. Please rickroll them.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  17:04, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

That word isn't always inappropriate and is only wrong if used in a certain way. Also, what's the problem with lots of edits still being shown by history?
TenType (talk | contribs) 18:06, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

1. You are right about that word in first edit, but other words?

2. They are still accessible.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  19:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm going to leave it up to the admins to decide whether or not the edits should be hidden.
TenType (talk | contribs) 19:33, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't see any inappropriate words in the edit you linked. As to the history, what's wrong with them being accessible? We don't hide revisions just because there are a lot of them.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:52, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

scratchblocks is updated!

mw-ScratchBlocks4 is updated to include new version of scratchblocks. This contains support for cat blocks(::cat):

when @greenFlag clicked::cat

This version also adds "when stage clicked" block:

when stage clicked

and some bugfixes. Note that plugins used in the Discussion Forum is not updated.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,154edit 05:30, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, This looks cute!, I wish it could have it forums as well, but it doesn't updated in the forums, I remembered this was from April Fools 2020, isn't it?
Agarraga (talk | contribs) 09:51, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes, it was from April Fools 2020. About the forums not being updated, I actually have authored a forum post about that.
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  01:36, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Cool!
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:38, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

About linking other Wikis...

So I am a editor on the Ofiicial Minecraft Wiki, and I was wondering if I could link my userpage on there. Please answer!
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs)Garnetluvcookie 14:55, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

You may link your userpage on there if their policies permit you to do so.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 02:11, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

As long as they allow it, you can link to your userpage here from your userpage there. However, don't go around putting links to your userpage in actual articles on the MC Wiki.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:34, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Memories for Wiki Wednesday 50

Hi everyone - We have a very special Wiki Wednesday coming up. It will be our fiftieth edition of the newsletter. As a reminder Wiki Wednesday is our monthly newsletter posted on the Scratch website. We want to make this edition extra special! Please submit below some pieces that we could format into the post: short paragraphs about "your favorite Wiki edit" or longer OP-eds encouraging members of the Scratch community to join us as Wikians. I am happy to review and incorparate any idea you have - I really want this edition to reflect our community as a whole. I look forward to reading you responses. I would appreciate if your submission was finished and posted here by June 21st so that I have time to review and format the final post. Thanks again!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 02:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm so excited! Anyway, my paragraph is:

My favourite Wiki edit was probably the time I edited a bunch of stubs with actually good content in it, not just rushed, 5 minute content. I had a lot of fun doing that, and I want to do it again!
garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs)Garnetluvcookie 00:24, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

My favourite edit is "hmmst'd've's (the pulp free orange juice with extra pulp that crash-landed into my basement and said banana)". It was funny. Also, it's a good example for that Scratch and Scratch Wiki are same, we're not writing "only" boring contexts. Also, we're (as Scratchers in Scratch Wiki) writing for Scratchers. There has funny and helpful things. We're trying to helpful for everyone because this wiki is written by Scratchers for Scratchers. That's the main task.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  18:31, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

I love editing for the Wiki because I get to share my knowledge about Scratch and help other people find information that they need. Also, I've learned a lot of new things about Scratch while working on and reading the Wiki articles. Being a Wikian is a great way to give back to the Scratch community, and it's a lot of fun working with people from around the world, whether it's working on a large project or page, or just making some smaller changes to an article. The Scratch Wiki community is really nice and helpful as well.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 16:00, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully it's not too late; here's my paragraph:

I don't think I have a favorite edit, because it's all of the edits by every Wikian all coming together that make the Scratch Wiki what it is. If you're looking for a way to help out in the Scratch community, the wiki is a great place for you! You'll get better at collaborating, researching, and writing. Editing the wiki is fun, too! We have a wonderful community that's very welcoming and would be delighted to answer any questions you have. If you're interested in joining, just follow the instructions here: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/S:CONTRIB We're excited to meet you and see your contributions!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:38, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Honestly I don't have single edits that I like - I like the grind of looking through recent changes, and making follow-up edits if necessary. It was also nice to become EW to sort of formalize that process :)
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  07:59, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

This topic is  Done as Wiki Wednesday is out. Thanks Makethebrainhappy!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Necroposting on Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done

Some of the topics in Not Done have been solved or unusable/outdated. Maybe we can archive as "closed". Any ideas? (edited in 23.06.2020 (UTC))
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  21:38, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Which topics specifically do you think the discussion is completed on? Maybe ask the original authors of the posts.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 02:49, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! (On a Wednesday!) June 24^th, 2020

Welcome to this month's Thankful Thursday! This month is a special one because it is the 50^th edition Wiki Wednesday! For those of you who don't know Wiki Wednesday is a monthly Scratch News series where the Scratch Team features an article suggested by the community on the last Wednesday of the month. To celebrate we are releasing Thankful Thursday a day early to be in conjunction with Wiki Wednesday. So, an extra special thanks to both MakeTheBrainHappy and LiFaytheGoblin who made Wiki Wednesday possible!

Without further ado:
Welcome to the 29^th Thankful Thursday! June 24^th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Thankful Thursday

Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User	Thanks
makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs)	You have a gift for words and such a way with writing! Thank you for writing Wiki Wednesday for us! Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 04:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs)	Thank you for all that you have done to make Wiki Wednesday possible! Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 04:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Jammum (talk | contribs)	I really, really like your edits! Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 18:11, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Dilek10 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for edits between interwikis! ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  18:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for invent the TT! ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  18:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)	Thanks for necessary edits in interwikial space! ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  18:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Sup2point0 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for getting started making constructive edits so quickly! You're greatly appreciated! bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:35, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs)	Thanks for all your edits! Groko13 (talk | contribs) 15:34, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
Groko13 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for your work on Stage Monitor, including merging it and Variable Monitor, as well as your other work on the page! You're awesome! bigpuppy talk | contribs 01:43, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
Hani2018 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for being so enthusiastic about editing the wiki since you joined! You're amazing! bigpuppy talk | contribs 01:44, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
bigpuppy (talk | contribs)	Thanks for being so helpful and kind! You make me smile! Groko13 (talk | contribs) 15:05, 12 June 2020 (UTC) You are incredible in what you do on the wiki and your professionalism is amazing! Thank you! Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 03:49, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs)	Thank you for helping out so much recently! I'm glad many folks have been more active recently, and you're no exception! You're absolutely an irreplaceable member of the Scratch and Scratch Wiki community, and I'm grateful for you. bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:45, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
R4356th (talk | contribs)	Thank you for your work on the Translators page! bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:47, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

“

There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

”

The next TT is, July 30^th, see you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 04:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 04:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Removing biased opinions on Wiki pages.

There are many pages with a note like:

Note:

This can be hard for New Scratchers to make, as of its complexity.

The Scratch Wiki is supposed to be a neutral source of information about the Scratch website, right? I suggest that we remove all those notices from the pages. New Scratchers aren't dumb. They are just users who made an account. No-one needs to say "This is the green flag. Sound it out with me G. R-" NO. I know a user who is amazing at coding in text-based languages, yet other users were saying "ThE ScRaTcH WiKi sAyS tHaT nEw ScRaTcHeRs CaN't cOdE sHoW I sHoW yOu HoW!1!1!". This is making the Wikians look like fools for putting this stuff on here, I quote an earlier part of my post "The Scratch Wiki is supposed to be a neutral source of information. This is the end of this before it gets a little too ranty.
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs)Garnetluvcookie 01:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

You bring up a very good point! I agree that all of these notices should be removed. The reader can judge how hard a script will be to understand themselves, based on their experience and skill level. Everyone is different.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 01:59, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

I also agree. The wiki should not have such notices. Are there any examples of such pages?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 19:13, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Jakel181, I saw them remove one in this edit.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 19:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

I agree, too. A lot of tutorials has similar notes like that.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  19:33, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

+1, no page should have such notices.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:06, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Tell users on Wiki Wednesday topics not to spam in replies

When Wiki Wednesdays are mentioned on the Scratch News on the homepage, some users' replies contain spam such as blockspam.

I suggest that at the end of each Wiki Wednesday initial post, it should say that when replying, users should not spam. It could also give the definition of what is considered spam (such as offtopic blocks, gibberish, emoji testing, etc.), so users will less likely be confused about what spam is (other than the food product of the same name), that spam could be reported, and that block testing and project advertisements go in the Forum blocks testing topic and the Show and Tell forum respectively.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 09:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

It's a good idea - and I agree with you, but I think that's not a exact solution manner. As an example, lots of announcements and sticky topics (Wiki Forum Community Portal) are getting blockspam; some people, like me, TenType, SausageMcSausage or ST, warn them, but I see a new spam everyday when I check Wiki Forum Community Portal. Also, nobody don't write aggressive posts for warn users; for example, don't write "DON'T MAKE BLOCKSPAM OR SOMEBODY MAY WARN YOU(ME OR ANYBODY ELSE)". I think WW could include a link to here.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  11:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Wiki doesn't render correctly in the Vector Skin

Is this happening for anyone else?
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 20:19, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Could you mention some specific problems? There are inevitably going to be problems with, for example, people's userpages (e.g. my sidebar makes my userpage look bad in the vector skin), but what problems are you seeing? More people use ScratchWikiSkin, though, so at the end of the day more attention is going to be focused on that. Thanks!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Random articles looked fine to me while using the vector skin, though I didn't look closely.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Whole pages have cut-off text on my Mac.
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 22:43, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

Which browser are you using? Also, could you post a screenshot?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘I use Chrome, and I'll get up a screenshot soon.
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 13:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Scratch MIDI notes

 Done, though articles mentioning MIDI must be updated

Everywhere I look says that MIDI has 128 notes, from 0 to 127. However, Scratch can play up to note 130 with the Play Note () for () Beats block, so I'm pretty confused. Does Scratch use MIDI? What is it doing?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 21:31, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

The Community Portal is a place to add questions or suggestions about the Wiki, not Scratch. You may want to ask this in the Advanced Topics forum.
 VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  01:37, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

VFDan, I interpreted the question as something they were asking so that they could improve the wiki, though I might be wrong. However, the talk page of that article may be a better place to ask.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 01:44, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Scratch used MIDI until Scratch 2.0, and there are indeed 128 notes from 0 to 127. The notes would be synthesised by software on one's computer, and there are 128 General MIDI instruments. (It's also possible to use an electronic synthesiser, but I don't think that was ever an end-user feature.)

Since Scratch 2 Scratch no longer uses MIDI, but offers 21 sampled instruments. (I think I read somewhere that the Scratch Team was dissatisfied with the MIDI synthesis offered by Flash, or something along those lines, but I don't remember the details so please don't take that as fact.) In Scratch 2 there are still only 128 notes, but Scratch 3 offers 131. Though as mentioned this discussion doesn't quite belong here.
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 01:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Mostly I was asking so that I could update this template, but it might apply to other articles, especially if Scratch is no longer using MIDI. Should I move the discussion over there somehow? Although you answered it pretty well. Do you have any sources saying that Scratch doesn't use MIDI anymore? It would be really helpful.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 01:56, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Here's a topic, and there is the source code for Scratch 2 and Scratch 3.
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 03:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks a ton!
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 14:09, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Blocked Accounts

My account got blocked for reasons that I would not like to discuss here, is it still safe for me to be on the Wiki?
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 13:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

From Ban:

"Although the Scratch Wiki is an official Scratch project, bans on the Scratch Website do not apply on the Wiki. However, if a user is banned on the Scratch Website and continues their behavior on the Wiki, then they will be banned until unbanned from the main site." So, I think you're probably okay .
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 14:01, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! I was wondering if I had to wait and wait and wait...
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 14:05, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Where's the CSS cheatsheet?

Title.
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 15:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Are you talking about Scratch Wiki:Cheatsheet, or another cheatsheet? I'd assume another cheatsheet, because that's a wikitext cheatsheet (not a CSS cheatsheet), but it's the most common "cheatsheet" people think of on this wiki.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:25, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

There's Help:CSS. Is there anything specific that you need help with?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 16:53, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Discussion Invitation System

 Not done

Hi folks! On the topic of reviving S:CPND, I have another suggestion. My previous suggestion (collapsing discussions) got implemented, but it is a very minor change. As someone who usually updates the featured images, I was thinking about a discussion that I personally would like people to participate in, Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions. That specific discussion has been going on since August 2018 and it hasn't yet come to a conclusion.

I think I've come up with something that may help solve the Not Done problem. Well, I didn't exactly come up with it, because I got the idea from Wikipedia's Feedback request service. As I understand it, with Wikipedia's Feedback request service, when a discussion needs an outside editor to provide comment, a bot comments on the talk page of someone who has added their name to the list. I'd like to make it clear: my suggestion would not require a bot. Wikipedia needs stuff like that because it's giant.

Basically, when a discussion is going stale or needs a few more editors to provide feedback, a proactive editor can comment the Discussion Invitation template (currently at User:Bigpuppy/Discussion Invitation System/Template) on a few user talk pages of people who have signed up to be invited to discussions.

Here are some examples of when this would be useful:

• For asking editors to participate in a S:CP or S:CPND discussion that has gone inactive or that has a deadline
• For asking editors their opinion on a discussion on the talk page of an article that only a few people are participating in

I think this will help with more than reviving S:CPND, though — it will help on any discussion that isn't getting the attention it deserves.

I've decided to start this program up in my userspace, though if people like it maybe it can be moved to project space (the Scratch Wiki namespace). The list of people who have signed up is currently at User:Bigpuppy/Discussion Invitation System/List (as of writing, only me). If you'd like to sign up, please do!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I think this is a great idea!
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 19:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

It could be a good idea, but I'm not sure that it's really matter. As you said before, Wikipedia is a big place and a lot of discussion creators in S:CPND is inactive/quitted Scratch. Also, I think a lot of the discussions are not necessary. For example, are you think "Secret Compliments" important today? Also, asqwde has been inactive since 8 months.

I'm supporting main idea, also it can be helpful for usual stuffs, but also nobody cannot use it for old Not Done topics. Additionally, I suggest another idea; Scratch Wiki could have multiple portals. For example; Scratch Modifications portal, Extensions portal, etc. Maybe not for now, but it could be helpful when discussions are too much.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  20:03, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Well, I don't think that it matters that some people in S:CPND are inactive; that doesn't mean their discussions aren't relevant anymore. As for the discussions that you don't think are relevant anymore, like "Secret Compliments," you should discuss that in the appropriate section at S:CPND and make sure people agree with you. You could get people to add to the discussion on whether they are relevant anymore using the system I suggested
bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:08, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I just used the system on the talk pages of the two people (other than me) who signed up:

• User talk:Garnetluvcookie#Invitation to discussion
• User talk:Groko13#Invitation to discussion

Keep in mind that in the future, people would not message everyone on the list (because hopefully lots of people sign up!), but rather message the number of people that they need.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 01:26, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

I'm happy to see people using the system already!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 19:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Also, I added {{open userpage}} to all of the Discussion Invitation System pages except the template, so feel free to improve any of them!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 19:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Oh yes, I remember when I first suggested that. I was thinking about it recently actually - what a coincidence!

I would like to add my name to the list, however one quick thing: why do we link to our Scratch profiles and not our Wiki profiles, or perhaps our Wiki talk page? Surely linking to our userpage would make a lot more sense, unless there is a specific reasoning for not doing this that I am not understanding.

In any case, I think this is a fantastic idea. Glad to see it's working already! Thanks for taking this on, bigpuppy. :)
Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 15:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Where do people link to their Scratch profiles? On the list page, we are using the {{user}} template, which adds a link to the user's userpage and talk page.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Wait, nevermind. I saw {{users}} in the code, and mistook it to be the new [[users:]] interwiki, which points to their Scratch profile. Whoops!
Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 23:45, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

When are we planning to implement the new Flawed Article?

 Not done

Per title.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 01:13, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Maybe you should ask jvvg. Has there been a discussion about it elsewhere? I'm not sure if the article is finished yet.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 03:07, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

More Featured Images!

 Not done

The featured images were just updated, so does anyone have any new suggestions for next time?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 03:58, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Here's two images: 1 and 2. I don't know if these have been used in the past or not. Maybe we should start keeping a list. Is there any rule against reusing images?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 03:37, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

If images have the {{featured}} template on them, they have been used before. That said, there may have been some times where we forgot to add that template.

As for whether there's a rule against re-using images, I'm not sure, though I'm guessing the {{featured}} template doesn't support such a case currently.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:06, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! Before I thought that the template was only for WW articles.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 18:03, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

jvvg's "temporary" solution

 It's not working effectively for now
It is still working. I'm not sure that I can request an account with the link (I'm not using another user).
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  15:11, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Should we delete never used bot accounts?

 Done
For example: user:Tweaker, user:ThisIsAnAccount, user:Bot807. They had never used, or in a few edits with a human edit. So, I think to send a message to developers of the bots.
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  12:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Special:RequestAccount says that Wiki accounts cannot be deleted. Also, some of those bot accounts' owners might be inactive on Scratch.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 2,145 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:10, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm talking about ban accounts or we should say "this bot is inactive". For example, look at here: wikipedia:Template:Retired
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  15:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

New Wikian

So I noticed that I am a New Wikian. But... how do I become a wikian? Is it similar to main scratch, or totally different?
-Exphire- (talk | contribs) 21:02, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki:Wikians has the information you're looking for.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:06, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Are there rules on this Wiki about sockpuppeting similar to the ones on Wikipedia?

Just wondering.
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 19:24, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

We have a very simple policy on alternate accounts: you can't have them unless you're a bot owner.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:25, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Constructiveness in Community Portal - An Idea

Hello there!

In case you didn't know, I'm a Forum Helper (https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/3688309/) on Scratch, which means I generally help out on the the Scratch discussion forums. One day, I headed over to the Community Portal and it seemed like a sort of "discussion forums" within the Scratch Wiki, and I understand that the concept is different, but for me it personally seemed that way.

Anyways, I mostly help around a lot on the Suggestions forum, which, yet again, redirects to the Community Portal since there are a lot of suggestions for the Scratch Wiki here. One difference is though, that the Scratch Team and some Scratchers (like me) enforce the rule of "constructiveness" while making posts, and I'm pretty sure most of you know what that means but I'll just clarify:

• It means that one does not simply post "Support!", "Good idea!", or "+1!" and explain why they like the suggestion, that they provoke discussion, and look for possible issues instead of continuosly leaning on one side, like "I love this suggestion" or "I hate this suggestion"

• It means that one does not simply add one sentence to act as if their post is constructive. For example, "Support, because this might be useful for many Wikians!" seems constructive but it isn't really constructive, because they're not stating how it would be useful for many Wikians or why it would be.

Now, I've been looking around in the CP, and I've been seeing a couple of responses just saying "+1!" or merely "Support!" without provoking any further discussion and merely showing your satisfaction. So I thought, maybe, we could enforce the constructive rule on the CP as well. Especially because the ideas here much more mature and complex, and not like Scratch where it's just new blocks or random new features.

I do agree that many people are already following this rule, but maybe just enforce it more? I do think it'll be incredibly helpful for the type of suggestions being given here.

wow... that's... long
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 09:31, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

While I understand what you're saying, I don't think it would be necessary to enforce constructiveness here. The discussion forums and Community Portal are two fundamentally different things. The Scratch Team has an extremely large userbase. Thus, there are many possible people contributing to discussions, and also many people that decisions will affect. It makes sense for there to be an expectation that people are constructive. However, as of writing, there are 72 active users on the Scratch Wiki. This is much smaller than the userbase on Scratch. And yes, you might argue that our "userbase" is not just our editors but also our readers; yes, but our editors are the ones who are supposed to make the decisions here.

Anyway, on the topic of having fewer active users on the wiki, it helps to see if someone supports your idea. And it matters, too. If multiple people like your idea, it probably has a better chance of being successful here. This is in stark contrast to the Suggestions Forum, where that is simply not true. This is why simply saying "support" or "no support" on that forum is not helpful, nor constructive.

In summary, yes, I think it would be helpful for people to provide a reason that they like or dislike an idea (perhaps we could recommend it), but I don't think it's necessary to enforce it. I don't think that it's fair to compare the convention here to the convention on the Suggestions Forum, because the CP is fundamentally different from the Suggestions Forum and the discussion forums in general. That said, if someone dislikes an idea, I think it is more necessary to provide reasoning than if they like it, as they are disagreeing with the reasoning provided by the OP, and thus need to provide their own reasoning.

So, to end this off, I agree that we should recommend it, but I disagree that we should enforce it.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 14:13, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Good idea! I suppose that could work too.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 09:23, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

READ! Scratch is down!

I just wanted to tell you that Scratch is down! I'm not a techie, but I think it will be back up in a few hours. Please be patient!
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 11:35, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

It is not at the moment.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 11:45, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

I know, it was down at the time of me writing this.
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 12:08, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done
bigpuppy talk | contribs 14:09, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Standardized signatures

This can reduce the time of loading. See: wikipedia:Wikipedia: Signatures
ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  13:11, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

New template:

I think that there should be a template for retired accounts, so I made one. If you are active on Wikipedia, this looks similar to the retired template there. Here's the link to my draft.
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 17:20, 4 July 2020 (UTC)