Talk:Discussion Forums

Underlines are creepy

I feel that those blue links with black underlines are creepy. I would bold them instead, but is that a good practice?
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 22:16, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

Weird, on Chrome, I don't see it like that! [1] interesting!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 22:23, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

O.o *switches browsers and finds out that the links don't look creepy there*. Wow, what should I do now?
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 22:41, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

fix it so it works on all browsers
Funcoding4u (talk | contribs) 13:09, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Search Option Nonfunctional on Forums

I noticed that in the "Menu Bar" section of this article, it includes information about a search option that is currently nonfunctional. I feel this should that it should be updated to include information saying that it does not work as functioning, and offer a workaround for Scratchers looking to search the forums. What should I do?
Lego-Lovin-Program (talk | contribs) 17:42, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

I was about to mention the same thing. The searching system is currently not working, then why is it linking it in the menu bar? It would be nice if the section was still there so we could add the {{obsolete feature}} tags, but it's not there either. I don't know whether to remove the entire "Search" reference or at least add the section back. Any suggestions?
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 12:02, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm thinking this wording may confuse people

Resolved (since an unknown date)

The description for the "Questions About Scratch" forum seems a little strange. "This is where to ask normal questions about Scratch. Those questions may ask for programming help, questions on past versions of Scratch; anything about Scratch can be posted here, not just questions." The bold statement isn't totally accurate; it's not a place you can chat about scratch normally, the forum is created specifically for questions. Should this be changed? Thoughts?
PrincessFlowerTV (talk | contribs) 15:09, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes, the wording is sort of weird. I think this should be modified.
TenType (talk | contribs) 15:59, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

I think I've come up with something, but I'm unsure if it's good or not. Can anybody please review it?
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 12:07, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Renaming?

This feature is most commonly known as "Discussion Forums", and there is no reason to add "Scratch". This page should be renamed to "Discussion Forums".
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 14:17, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree. There isn't a reason for having Scratch in it as it's already in the mainspace for talking about scratch.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:16, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

I also support. After all, the link in the footer says "Discussion Forums", and unlike "Website" there isn't really ambiguity.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:32, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

+1
leahcimto talk • contribs • profile 22:12, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Should we also consider moving the 1.4 version of forums as well if we do move this page?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:15, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

I agree, in the footer of the Scratch website the link is called "Discussion Forums" and there is no reason to have "Scratch" because you know you are reading about Scratch because the the wiki is titled "Scratch Wiki".
imabanana22 (talk | contribs)

Yep. Scratch wiki.
Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) | contribs (815) | directory 00:57, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I think the page could be renamed to Scratch Forums, to mark that they are a part of Scratch, and as there is Scratch Website. The word 'discussion' seems to be unnecessary.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 16:08, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

+1. It would clarify some stuff, can't see any downsides
Geometric_ghast (talk | contribs) 22:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

That name would be nice too, but i think i would stick with renaming it to "discussion forums"
Imabanana22 (talk | contribs) 00:16, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

"Scratch" doesn't clarify anything, as opposed to "Discussion", which does. The only other forum we have a page for is the Text Based Games Forums, which also technically falls under the category of a "Scratch forum". And Discussion Forums is the official name, so I don't think that we should use the name Scratch Forums.
The2000 (talk | contribs) 06:09, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

It seems like we have reached a conscious. Are there anymore thoughts on this?
leahcimto talk • contribs • profile 13:02, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

HwS

Under HwS, it says 'This is where Scratchers and New Scratchers can ask questions about scripts for their project.' Does it need to say scratchers and new scratchers? maybe 'users' rather then scratchers and new scratchers?
Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 14:28, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

 Done
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 14:59, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Scratch Helper Groups Forum - Does it still exist?

I noticed that in the links section of this article one of the links says "Scratch Helper Groups" linking to discuss/39. I'm wondering if this section of the forums still exists. Looking at it through the wayback machine, it seems like the forum was public, but a sticky said to only post there if they were apart of a Scratch Helper Group. Almost like a private forum but the public can see it. here you can find an archive of the forum, though now I am getting a 403 when I try to access it. The article also says "This link will only work if you're in a helper group.". I think that might be false, since private forums have been created (like the Welcoming Committee Forum), and to my knowledge all welcoming committee discussion is taking place in that forum.

Does anyone know if it exists, and what do you all think should happen to the link on that page?
leahcimto talk • contribs • profile 16:18, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

I think it still exists. Compare the error you get when visiting the purported Scratch Helper Groups Forum (403 Forbidden) to the error you get when visiting, say, scratch:discuss/45 (404 Not Found). I think that since you get a 403 error instead of a 404 error, the forum likely exists, most people just can't access it. Also notice how the 404 example I used (forum #45) is not listed as any particular forum on Discussion Forums/List of all forums, which would lead one to believe that nonexistent forums result in a 404 error, not a 403 error. On the other hand, when someone without access to a particular private forum tries to access said private forum, they get a 403 error.

Because of this, I do think it still exists. Is it still being used? I would be surprised (although I also could be incorrect). I also don't understand what you mean by "I think that might be false, since private forums have been created (like the Welcoming Committee Forum), and to my knowledge all welcoming committee discussion is taking place in that forum." The Scratch Helper Groups Forum might have previously been a public forum, and now it is a private forum. While I am not aware of the specific inner workings of DjangoBB or the Scratch forum system, I wouldn't be surprised if it is possible to change a forum's status from public to private.

All that said, we could also get confirmation by asking a Scratch Team member or (former?) Scratch Helper.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:38, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Oh, now I understand why you referred to the Welcoming Committee forum--because the Welcoming Committee is considered a Scratch Helper Group. My mistake. But that still doesn't prevent the possibility of the forum existing and just not being used, as I said.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:43, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Got it! I see what you mean. I'm going to change the note that says "This link will only work if you're in a helper group." to something like "This forum is no longer public", as I think I am considered a part of a Scratch Helper Group as a Welcoming Committee Curator, and I can confirm that it is no longer used by Scratch Helper Groups and is not accessible by those in a Scratch Helper Group.

Thanks for the help and clarification
leahcimto talk • contribs • profile 18:57, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Sounds good to me.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:34, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

Scratch Forums are currently unavailible.

I just found this screen and i think the entire webstie is breaking, xD. Everything is super slow. But this screen is interesting, it shows the Scratch TweetingBird Social Media account, and i dont think i have ever seen the error screen for this. Does anyone know if theres a link to the error screen?
7salad3salad (talk | contribs) 16:20, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Please keep talk pages related to the wellbeing of the article, not just general discussion pages about the topic.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:24, 19 April 2023 (UTC)

Remove the Outage on 19 April 2023 section

Resolved (since 21:08, 20 April 2023 (UTC))

Now that the outage is over, it doesn't seem necessary to me. The forums go down pretty frequently, so it's not really notable.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 14:34, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

I agree. It was gone for a few hours, but not for a long time.
-unsigned comment by Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs)

Although it is my project that is a reference for this I do have to agree. I am unsure how long an outage normally lasts, but it only lasted for about 12 hours. I don't think that is major enough to have its own section. Maybe an outages section that contains all outages moving forward and information about them, but I agree.
Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 19:02, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Alright, I removed it.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 21:08, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Former Forums section?

Would a section that shows all the former subforums be necessary? I think it'd be cool to have.
7salad3salad (talk | contribs) 20:12, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Like, all the forums that have been removed?
2tables (talk | contribs) 20:18, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, like would that be a good addition for this?
7salad3salad (talk | contribs) 20:44, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes.

AFD forum

The AFD forum is still in the list of forums on this article. Should we keep it on the article for historical purposes (while clarifying it's no longer available), or should we remove it from the article?
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 21:39, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Good catch. Personally, I think it should be removed. No other discontinued subforums are listed in that section.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 03:34, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Forums Currently Down

Should we include something on here about the Discussion Forums currently being down?
Lapisi (talk | contribs) 22:59, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

That might be a good idea. It’s been down for quite a long time (at least 2 days), and it’s been going down sporadically for the past week.

It’s kind of unusual to add sections like this, though, so more viewpoints are probably needed.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 00:05, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Maybe it would be a better idea to first hear an answer from a Scratch Team member explaining why the forums are down. Although there are some good guesses for why they're down, we can only speculate at the moment.
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 15:35, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Daisy Kat's edit

Resolved (since an unknown date)

I want to undo Daisy Kat's revision, because jvvg undoed it last time saying "to avoid using phrases like right now", but Daisy Kat keeps adding it back, plus, my school's firewall blocks this page (i'm on a chromebook.) Can someone undo this?
ninjahanzo ( Talk | Contribs | Scratch ) 03:38, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Cannot post to the forums file

Twice now, users have replaced the quote by @housemuseum (citation 15) with a file showing that you cannot post unsuitable language in the forums. The issue is that this file doesn't work for citation 15, because citation 15 is about recently joined users not being able to post in the forums.

I was the first person to add the @housemuseum quote, then it was replaced with the unrelated file. I changed it back to the quote, only for another user to change it to the file.

I want to use the @housemuseum quote instead of the unrelated file, but before I do so, I want to make sure users understand before it becomes an edit war.
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 19:18, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

The @housemuseum Quote Is Incorrect. It Claims That Any User Who Is A New Scratcher Cannot Post In The Forums, But That's Proven Untrue Because Kenny2scratch Was Able To Do that. You Shouldn't Cite It Because It's Wrong. Also, It'd Be Best To Cite The Scratch Team Or An Actual Part Of The UI Rather Than Just A Forum Post Saying The Claim Again, Since Anyone Can Post Anything. That's Why I Think It's Best To Link The Image Instead. But If You Have Another Idea That Proves The Claim (And Accurately Reflects It) Please Send Here :)
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 19:32, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Ah, I Think I See The Problem Here. There Are Two Files, And The Source Links The Wrong One. I've Fixed This Now. But I Still Think It Would Be Best To Show Something Provably, Or Something From Scratch Team, Rather Than A Single Post.It Looks Like I Fixed My Mistake. But Do You Think The New File Is Better Or Worse Than Posts In General? I Don't Want To Mislead People By Saying New Scratchers Can't Post When They Can. What Do You Think?
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 19:38, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

That's perfect. Thanks.

However, do you have a source saying that some New Scratchers can post on the forums?
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 19:40, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes, As Mentioned Before, Name_Sniped, A New Scratcher, Successfully Posted To The Forums After The Update.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 19:42, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

After having done some experiments and having a discussion with other people here, you seem to need your account to be old enough as well as having performed some activities on the main website in order to post as a New Scratcher.
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 21:21, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

According to a test I'm conducting (projects:933919919), you need to complete at least one social action (comments, followers, projects, etc.), and your account needs to be a certain amount of days old (somewhere between 3-6 days old), in order for it to work. If you don't do any social actions, it should work in about three weeks as it did with @medians' alt account.
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 01:41, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘That last sentence I made turned out to be false. To stay on topic, however, just continue the conversation on the aforementioned project if you'd like.
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 01:57, 3 December 2023 (UTC)