Partially duplicate article

The article Scratcher already has information on creating an account. So there's a few things we can do. We can either delete this article, remove the account creating section from the Scratcher article, or we can include some general information about creating accounts on the Scratcher article, but also link to the detailed, main article. What do you guys think?
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 15:02, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Yeah... I agree. :/ But for now I categorized it under "Tutorials".
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 07:58, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

About article deletion

I know it's kind of duplicate. my main purpose was in fact to ensure account security, not to repeat what the Scratcher article said. i could edit this article and remove certain unnecessary (duplicate) stuff. --LS97 My Talk

AAAARGH!

WierdF, What did you do!?!? sorry for being so harsh, but Lucario had just told me to remove unnecessary stuff as it was duplicate, and you just put it back in!

Plus, you even deleted the suggestions like how to choose a good pword. never mind, i'll simply re add it. but don't delete it again!

What? Oh... Sorry, I didn't realise... :(
WeirdF (talk | contribs) 17:43, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Never mind... i changed it now and made a backup :) --LS97 • User PageMy Talk

Other data?

Maybe we could write down what kind of other data?

~Aidan 01:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

hmm... why would we need that? --LS97Talk 12:07, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Well, it says you need to input Username, Password, and "Other data". It says what king of other data on Scratcher, but if this is the main article, then shouldn't it go more in-depth? :/
Aidan (talk | contribs) 17:27, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Luciaro261 said not to add this data, check further up this article for details.
WeirdF (talk | contribs) 17:30, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Password tip

Maybe we should change our suggestion?
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 02:41, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

That is so true.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:09, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Kaj

In the tips and suggestion section of this article, it says you should not include the word 'Kaj' in your username. On the contrary, you can include the word 'Kaj' in your username without being banned from Scratch, as long as you don't threaten or harm anyone on Scratch.
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 20:06, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Write down your password? Really?

The article present writing down your password as something that should always be done. Writing down passwords is a big security risk, especially if you reuse them and/or you have a fairly guessable username. So shouldn't we remove the recommendation to write down the password?
Python_megapixel (talk | contribs) 21:45, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes Removed in my latest edit - I had the same thoughts.
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08:37, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Comments regarding the removal of the "external programs" warning

Please leave your comments below before reverting the edit. Thank you!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:21, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

What if we added an article on the Location Feature, instead of doing it in this topic?

I think it would be worth saying. We could go over a lot -- how to change your location, controversy on features such as adding "Antarctica", how it influences Statistics, etc., instead of here, just like we have a short explanation on usernames here, and our own topic?
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk | contribs) 10:48, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes Support, this could have lots of info. Some things that could be included are also mentioned in Scratch Trends#Fake Locations.
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 23:19, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Support. I consider the Location feature quite notable, especially because of the fake location trend.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:19, 4 December 2020 (UTC)?
I'll get started.
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk | contribs) 1:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Adding a list about things not allowed in usernames

If you know anything not allowed in a scratch username, please reply here. All I know that isn’t allowed is “kaj” and “follow”, which was already mentioned.
CookiesAreSoooYummy (talk | contribs) 12:35, 3 October 2022 (UTC)

I added in a few. Does that work?
Also, I think we shouldn't make this a complete list. A complete list would include swear words, inappropriate concepts, etc. Let's just refrain from listing too many. Agreed?
UserIconSSB20.jpeg Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 00:36, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

“Dert”

I feel like the section with disallowed usernames mentioning "dert" will only cause tons of confusion, especially considering that many users who will read this article will not understand why dert is censored and may think Scratch is being overly strict. (In reality, it was because a user made an excessively large amount of accounts to try and make the user @Dertermenter look bad, and all the usernames were spelled similar to the word "Dertermenter".)

What I had in mind was either removing this to prevent confusion (as it vaguely falls under "offensive usernames" which is already mentioned on the list), or we could add a reference explaining why the censorship happened. What are your thoughts?
UserIconSSB20.jpeg Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 03:38, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

I believe an explanation would be good for it, but dert actually isn't banned - derte is.


-unsigned comment by dertermenter (talk | contribs)

I think an explanantion would fall under user-generated content, and isn't really needed.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 20:34, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Remove the new section

Yes Resolved (since 15:15, 22 November 2022 (UTC))

The section with disallowed usernames is kinda pointless. I've seen multiple inappropriate things on it that have been reverted. I also feel like we need a reminder about S:BRD.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 19:11, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

But really, overall, it's not that helpful - when you're creating an account, you don't really need to know a couple words that aren't allowed.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 19:14, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
I agree. Theres really no point in adding disallowed usernames. If they want to create an account with a disallowed username they could just try it and figure out themselves.
SpaghettiAG852097- (talk | contribs) 19:38, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
Exactly. The words "Username not allowed" aren't super confusing.
Also, to illustrate my point more, this is causing edit wars, a ton of reversions, and inappropriate content.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 19:41, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
You could just edit the page and delete it i guess.
SpaghettiAG852097- (talk | contribs) 17:36, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
I need community feedback first.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 18:56, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I'm on the fence about this one. Of course we shouldn't directly list anything inappropriate, but I think there may be educational/archival value of listing unusual things. However at the same time I can also see an argument that there isn't any benefit to actually listing specific disallowed things since we will never have a complete list and someone reading this article probably wouldn't even care about it anyway, instead just saying that inappropriate usernames aren't allowed.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:15, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

I feel like when we want to add something, we should think to ourselves "Why is this blocked? Is it because its offensive to a certain group? Because it's a word or concept not okay for Scratch? (BTW this doesn't have to be the really inappropriate things you're thinking- it could be a word commonly used for online business or advertising)" We them need to think if that falls under the "offensive or othersise inappropriate category" - the only things I can think of are kaj and follow. Community, please give your input on the Originally Posted question.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 21:49, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
I totally agree, a disallowed username section is very uneccesary. If someone tried to create an account with disallowed username they would just find out that its not allowed and

pick a different one. Also, there are some that arent included such as the word "follow" it is not included in the page. It would take a while to list all of them. There might even be some other ones that nobody even knew werent allowed (Obviously we cant list bad words like swear words for example but like other words you know what i'm talking about like "kaj" and "follow" words like that). We could just write "Usernames with innapropriate words are not allowed" or something like that instead of directly listing each word.
Python_master20 (talk | contribs) 01:00, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

I'm on the fence about this. I see your points, but I don't think it really harms the message or reliability of this article in any way. It could also be seen as educational -- but not very much if we aren't explaining why these phrases are censored. For example, it might clarify things if we explained why a username with a lot of zeroes, or kaj, or follow, isn't allowed. Otherwise, it's not as much of education and helping users to understand things (which is what articles do) than it is just listing a bunch of information.
On the other hand, in its current state, I could very well see it removed. It's not entirely necessary, and it's more of a "fun trivia" kind of thing right now than it is actually helping users to understand the username filter. I'm pretty lukewarm on this, and I'd be content with any solution used here.
UserIconSSB20.jpeg Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 00:39, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── At this point it's starting to get ridiculous. There is no way we can catalog all the possible things that are disallowed (and even if we did, the list would be ridiculously long, I'm sure), but random things keep getting added to the list even if they're unimportant. I don't think this improves the educational value of the article beyond just saying that inappropriate usernames or usernames that cause drama within Scratch (like Kaj, FNAF, etc.) are not allowed. We also run the risk of everyone focusing on one minuscule part of the article rather than the actual important stuff. I suggest we at least have a moratorium on adding more stuff until this discussion is resolved.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:55, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Tnat is true, but I still think that it should be explained that inappropriate, revealing, or disrespectful usernames are not allowed. I think it is a good idea to include that information. But the specific examples are unnecessary, impossible to complete, and diverting attention from the rest of the article. We should include 1-2 paragraphs on what kinds of usernames aren't allowed. Does that sound acceptable?
UserIconSSB20.jpeg Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 05:02, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Yes Support. This is what we should have imo.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 13:22, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
I agree with that too
SpaghettiAG852097- (talk | contribs) 15:56, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
I think we've come to a consensus here. I will update the article to explain the situation but not include specific examples. Feel free to improve as necessary.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:15, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
👍🏽
SpaghettiAG852097- (talk | contribs) 15:47, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
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