Article: Scratch's Effect on the World

I think we should all team up and work on a major article on how Scratch has affected this world more specifically the world of programming since it's release. We could scavenger hunt the Internet for Scratch mods and someone could design in Photoshop an image of Scratch and all the languages that branch off it, including mods, Snap, and Stencyl even. Then we could add sort of biographies or interviews with people who Scratch has affected greatly in life, and have them in the article. We can find statistics and such things that support how Scratch has helped the world! Like this innovative idea that I came up with after my recent vanishing?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 02:53, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

interview me! scratch started my program love!!!! ;) sure i love the idea!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 03:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Wooot! I loved the idea! I saw that Scratch's concept is really inspiring. :These, Stencyl, Tynker, Code.Org, etc used the concept and credited "MIT :Scratch". There's also MIT app inventor, although is also created by MIT, might :have been related to Scratch. I vote yes!
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 11:25, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Scratch actually changed my life. It got me started in programming back when I was in fourth grade, and it taught me the fundamental structures I needed to move on to more complicated languages as time went on.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 11:44, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, yes. Just make sure it's all well referenced.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 13:03, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
@jvvg same :) we have some great people to interview here!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 15:29, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
I totally agree with Jvvg. Except I was in 6th grade. This gives me an idea to write a article/speech on how Scratch changed my life! We should all do that!
Everyone write an essay about how Scratch changed their life! Then we can send it to the ST!
-PRO- Logo2.png-PRO- (talk | contribs) 22:23, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
@-PRO-: I've already done that for an English class. ;) (Minus the sending to ST half.)
@Turkey3: That sounds like a really nice idea! It'd have to be well referenced like Sci said above, but it would be lots of fun to have too.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:03, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
Awesome! I am glad to see a lot of support! I'll start researching some stuff.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 23:31, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
do you guys want me to start a page on the wiki where everyone could write a quick essay of their scratch experience, then at the end, we can quote (or just put the whole speech) some parts of the essay into the actual page?
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:18, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── also, we should start a page outline, such as testimonials first, then body of text about how it changed the world, then actual speeches.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:20, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Edit conflicted.
@KrIsMa: I think it would be fun to do, but also a bit biased since the quotes would only be from Wikians.
Anyway, would you mind if I posted a 5 page story about one of my Scratch experiences?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:24, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
yes!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:55, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

speech applications

ok now anyone can add their speeches! after this, we can quote/add speeches into the paragraph! [1] here is how to access the responses, [2] i have also sent a message to the st about if i can sticky the link on the forums. thanks!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:55, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

First post! :P
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:57, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
2nd lol but ErnieParke said he would make a 5 paged speech so idk if we were the first to start! ;)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:09, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
I posted it! Wow, does it take up a lot of space in a google doc.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:18, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
nice! i cant shrink the space lol are you anonymous narwhal? \and your speech is so eloquent! it truly touched me!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:25, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Me and ErnieParke came up with a plan on Google Docs:

Ernest Parke 6:18 PM Hi Krett! me 6:19 PM Do you own this document? You look like ErnieParke Ernest Parke 6:19 PM No I don't, KrIsMa is. (And I am ErnieParke! ;) )

  • KrIsMa owns the document

me 6:19 PM Who is scratchblockprogramming? Ernest Parke 6:20 PM Wait, Google turns smileys 90 degrees? (I think that's KrIsMa.) me 6:20 PM Hum, okay. Let me get KrIsMa, and maybe we should ask the ST to feature this, hold on a second Ernest Parke 6:20 PM Who do you think the anonymous narwhale and ibex are? me 6:21 PM I see a sheep, no "ibex" over here, maybe the ibex is me :D Ernest Parke 6:21 PM It would be nice if you were the ibex! :D (Good idea about the feature! Although I think an announcement would be better.( me 6:22 PM Nope, it's not on the forums. Maybe, we should use the Contact Us feature on the main site, and then we would, um, post a forum topic about it, ask the Scratch Team to move it to announcements. Ernest Parke 6:22 PM I'm actually a Scratch Mentor, so if this idea gets enough support, I could propose the idea directly to the Scratch Team themselves in the Scratch Mentor forums. me 6:23 PM They are kind of known for going nuts over the smallest things Yeah I know you're a mentor I just didn't think of that But what does the ST check more, their email or the forums? I can't see either. Ernest Parke 6:23 PM But then those small things are important. It's always good to consider everything! As for which they check more... me 6:24 PM I assume you'll leave another message now Sorry to bother you but I am impatient I need to work on that Ernest Parke 6:25 PM I think it'd be best to do a forum post because with an email, only one ST member is likely to see the request, but with the Scratch Mentor forum, a few (including other Scratch Mentors) are bound to see the request. It's okay @Krett12! me 6:25 PM That doesn't work on Google Chat Ernest Parke 6:25 PM I know. I just like to add in the @. me 6:26 PM So maybe we should start a speech on Scratch Wiki namespace So we can all work on it, not just you Then when we are done, you can post it in the special forum.... And maybe I can post the topic maybe? Or, maybe better yet..... Actually, NVM that was a bad idea Alright, I will C&P this chat onto the Wiki


Krett12 (talk | contribs) 01:30, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

oh thanks! can i get the link to the google doc? sorry it might be easier to see there ;)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:33, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
@KrIsMa: Nope, I'm not the narwhal, and Krett12 was the ibex. I've already guessed you were Scratchblocksprogramming, which means jvvg was probably the narwhale.
As for the narrative, I find it rusty at places, but I'm still glad that you really liked it! Personally, the mix of fiction and nonfiction is my favorite part of it. :)
@Krett12/Everyone Else: I just want to throw it out there that *if* I post this in the Scratch Mentor forum, I'd like to hear more opinions first.
@KrIsMa new post: The discussion was in your google document.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:35, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Wiki_Interviews, the Scratch account is MINE! We can use it for our project
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 13:12, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
I was kind of thinking, instead of the google doc, we would do what I explained here
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 13:15, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
And then Wiki_Interviews would post that on the forums and the ST would sticky it and stuff.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 13:16, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
So who wants to do interviewing? Please do it with the Wiki_Interviews account, and not reveal who you are until this is all done. Let me know who I should give the password to.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 13:17, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── wait are we going to do both speech and interview, interview only or speech only? both are just going to be used in the "testimonials" section of the "How scratch changed the world" article. I feel like docs is fine because in interviews, the first question we are going to ask is going to be 'how did scratch change your life', which is covered in the speech already. ;)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:06, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

No trust me, we will start out with different questions?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 16:56, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
I'd still like to use KrIsMa's speech system, but interviews sound nice as well. Maybe we could offer both options for a bit more diversity?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 20:56, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
hmm, ok maybe both are optional, whichever the applicant wants to do?
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 22:28, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
How about this--the speech is PART OF the interview.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 23:22, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
wouldnt that be repetitive then?
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:30, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Okay, then let's do just the interview.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 23:31, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

speech or interview or both

i believe both have different things to offer, both interview and speech, so let's allow others to respond ;) current question? speech only, interview only, or both?
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:34, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

I believe interview only, but definitely not both
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 23:37, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
I completely support :) Well, what project would you make about it...?
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 23:39, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Project? Like a Scratch Project? An ad? I dunno, we could pass around .sb2s and then share it with Wiki_Interviews, have the ST feature it
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 23:41, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Maybe, but why would we need a project for this?
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 23:43, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
hmm for interviews theres a character limit which is bad - such as when we ask then how scratch changed their lives they cant answer like how ErnieParke did in the speech. ;)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:47, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
They can do multi-comments
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 23:55, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── hmm what about really long speeches? ok let's let other users post about this and im not going to post another post for 1-2 posts to allow people to post ;) however i do love the idea just trying to figure something out ;)v
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:09, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

We could make a different google form just for speeches, then have the interview. So yeah, I guess we could do both. BUT, we should say, "go fill out this form", they shouldn't get the link until we've commented on their profile
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 00:37, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
Can't we already use the google doc that KrIsMa has already set up? Also, when/how would we give them the link if not we don't say "go fill out this form"?
Anyway, again, in reply to KrIsMa's (repeated?) question, I'm for both an interview and a speech. A speech is much more flexible, but an interview we could structure.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:46, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
No, we'll start with my interview thing, then after a few questions have them fill that out? And sorry, but yeah let's just use the one by KrIsMa.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) (I only got out three ~s before I accidentally hit save, so no timestamp)
No, no, I'm saying that KrIsMa's form thing has some unnecessary questions.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 14:33, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

interviewing structure

We can do that! We just need to post that in the forums to post a post in wiki interviews. We have to log the comments on a wiki page though and that might be a bit of a hindrance.
I have an idea, some wiki members get the password to the account, then when someone posts in wiki.interviews, only one wiki member interviews the person, whoever posts first. Then thewiki member will log the comments in the wiki somewhere! Fun!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:48, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Yup, that was my idea! Now who should I give the password to? I already have a lot of your emails from when I created your account on the Scratch JR Wiki.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 20:14, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
great nice idea! Can I join? Oh yeah, is it possible if you use my google docs email? Thanks! Oh yeah, want to plan the requited questions we should ask? :)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 21:03, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
The questions will depend on their answers, right?

Anyway, let's find a way to chat with the ST on this, like at a specific time, like, 4:00 Eastern Time tomorrow we all sign on to the chat for the document. I've got school, though, so let's do it on a weekend. How should we communicate? And when should we pitch it to them? The set-up still has a lot of blanks. Should we report something asking them to answer their email maybe?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 22:02, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I sent this to the ST:
Hey, this is Scratch Wiki contributor Krett12, sorry for the all caps subject, but I would like to discuss something with you. On the Scratch Wiki, we are discussing creating an article about how Scratch has changed lives, and we want people to interview! So many, many lots of them. Here was our current idea:

1)The user comments on Wiki_Interviews's profile asking "Can I be interviewed? Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase?????" 2)We take it from there We were wondering something---could you do us a favor? Officially back this and make it "popular"? Like, maybe we make a forum topic, and you guys move it to Announcements? Or something in the Scratch News? Or a featured project? Let me know your opinions. Best regards, Krett12

– What I sent them


Krett12 (talk | contribs) 03:43, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

the contact us is really glacial :( i sent a message 5 days ago and still no response :( anyways i think its still too early - i mean they will ask what our plan is but we still dont know the structure of the interview
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 04:26, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── That email sounds good! But, one question - what forum would you post it in for them to move it to Announcements...?
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 05:46, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Something like the Norwegian forum, I don't want anybody to see our topic before it's been moved.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 13:19, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
No - that's not what the language forums are for. If you don't want people to see it, don't post on the forums. Do it on the wiki, and you can have the ST create the topic.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 19:25, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
Fine---questions about scratch? help with scripts? project ideas?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 19:35, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
*Questions about Scratch is only for questions about Scratch.
*Help with Scripts is only for helping people out with scripting problems.
*Project Ideas is for getting and giving ideas for projects.
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 19:37, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
What's your idea?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 19:40, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Waiting for the ST

Now we just try to improve things while we wait for them to come....
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 19:19, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment the link on their Scratch Profile. The ST rarely checks the Wiki if at all.
-PRO- Logo2.png-PRO- (talk | contribs) 19:31, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
The only ST member who's at least semi-active on the Wiki is scmb1
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 19:33, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
I sent them an e-mail.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 19:34, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
@KrIsMa's removed message : Contact Us didn't work so I got them directly from Outlook
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 23:05, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

mandatory questions to be asked

They still haven't gotten back to me.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 14:51, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
krett12, i ment we have to ask them "Do you want to do the speech?" not "Do the speech" or not ask them at all ;)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 15:07, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
> and yeah scratch help is really glacial as I said before - they still haven't replied to me! ill tell u guys when they reply and they will probably reply to u guys in 1-2 days ;)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 15:12, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, still nothing.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 23:15, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
Hopefully we'll get a reply soon!
Anyway, when I was looking at the mandatory question, I thought it might be better to organize them by chronological order:
I also thought "Why are you still here on Scratch (why is Scratch so entertaining to you?)" would be better worded as "Why are you still here on Scratch, and why is Scratch so entertaining to you?"
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 14:02, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
done!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:59, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
they have not yet responded.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 02:50, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── its been about a week :O
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:51, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

I posted what I sent to them here, right? Please find it and use the report feature on the MS. And please, if you're willing, ask them to read contact us. Also, I think this event should be just as big as 3C (CCC (CreativeCharactersCamp (Creative Characters Camp) ) ).
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 14:44, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
thanks krett12 for posting that on scmb1's profile - i think they are choosing to not reply to us (2 weeks or more now)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 14:29, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
I did nothing on her profile, but I posted it on her user talk page. I don't know why they are ignoring us. Try sending your email to appeals@scratch.mit.edu, they must check that because when you are banned, contact us will send your email there and not to help@scratch. Try it please, and can we have someone ask on scmb1's profile to check their user talk page, I don't want anyone seeing our secret plan.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 15:04, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

working on our plan

So, I think, instead of a static list of question, one answer will lead to the next question.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 15:46, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Wasn't that already the plan?
Ignoring my assumption, I think a interview where one answer leads to the next question would be best.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 16:02, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
That's what I'm saying.
one answer will lead to the next question

– me

one answer leads to the next question

– you


Krett12 (talk | contribs) 16:42, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

@Krett12: Why is it secret? I also don't think the UnScratchWiki has to be secret, not all of our projects are Wikian-exclusive. ;P
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 23:34, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Awesome idea!

Hey everyone-- this sounds like a great project. Good job taking initiative on this! I talked to Paddle2See and Lightnin, and they agree that it sounds really cool. We also came up with some suggestions.

1) The forums don't get nearly as much traffic as the main site, so advertising it in the main site might get you attention from a larger and more diverse group of Scratchers. We were thinking that you could make a project and we could feature it-- that way, a lot of people would see it.

2) Instead of using a gdoc's form, we were thinking that it might be better to use a forum thread for your interviews (which you would link to from the project.) The google doc's form is a bit more trollable than the forums (what if someone says they're someone they're not?). We were thinking you could make this thread in Collaboration. When a topic is in Announcements, it sort of means that we are in charge of or leading whatever the project is-- and we don't want to take credit for your hard work! Featuring your project will show that we support what you're doing, but that we're not doing it ourselves.

Does that make sense? Any thoughts?
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 22:02, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

I will make a project! What should it say?
-PRO- Logo2.png-PRO- (talk | contribs) 22:11, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
I have an idea. Maybe, we'll share the project on Wiki_Interviews and a few Wikians will know the password?
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 23:27, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Naa... we don't need another account. I just need input. Even if you want art in, just post a project and I will merge them together.
-PRO- Logo2.png-PRO- (talk | contribs) 23:29, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
I brought up that idea because if somebody alone does it, it will look like they're doing it all. ;)
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 23:33, 29 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, Wiki_Interviews can share the project. Let's pass .sb2s back and forth on Drop Box. Who wants to know the password--I have a lot of your emails.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 01:24, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
For a speech, yeah, forum thread. But yes, it should not be in Announcements. I agree we need to show that we didn't just start this without asking you but that it's not you doing everything.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 01:29, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
I will start the project in 1.4 as more of my computers can support 1.4.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 14:24, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Let's prepare for a message storm on Wiki_Interviews - I got 600 the day I was featured, and I only got 120 loves that day. Most projects get 200-500 loves now on the first day :O
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 14:35, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, once the interview begins with a user, delete their comment on the profile. That way, only unhandled comments are there. Here it is. You can upload .sb files to the Wiki like you upload an image.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 14:57, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
You can upload about 8 file types, it's called "File" for a reason. ;)
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 14:58, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Anyone care to make a new version? Remember it's just like an image, so don't upload a new file just upload a new version of what we already have. If you all like the project, we can get our plan sorted out.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 03:50, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

jobs

it would be interesting if we put how many jobs Scratch has opened in all! :)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:15, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Have We the Interviews?

Are the interviews ready? And let's move this back to Scratch's Effect on the World.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 02:30, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

I don't think so.
SSSLogo.png SuperSmashScratch (talk | contribs) 02:33, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
Not yet. Who wants the password to the account?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 02:35, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
The password to what account?
SSSLogo.png SuperSmashScratch (talk | contribs) 02:35, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
our official interviews account
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 02:36, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
It's no longer a secret to everybody. xD
SSSLogo.png SuperSmashScratch (talk | contribs) 02:37, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
OK, I would like the password!
SSSLogo.png SuperSmashScratch (talk | contribs) 02:40, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
All we need to do is ask a few people for interviews, you are taking this way too far Krett.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 02:59, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
We already have some in google docs if you want to jump start the article ;)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 03:09, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
And who has seen the profile?Probs nobody. I will email the pass 2 you later.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 03:19, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Delete?

Shouldn't this page be deleted? It hasn't been active for a while....
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 01:32, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I think this interview is an awesome idea! Maybe we could reboot it?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 03:10, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
Deleted notuseful template. Talking to scmb1 now about a revival plan :)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:46, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
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