Scratch Wiki talk:Flawed Article/Draft/Archive 1

An idea

Resolved (since 00:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC))

Although at the time of writing this, the new flawed article has not been decided yet, I suggest that 'Thank you for reading my article' or something along the lines could be added to the bottom of the new flawed article as a flaw.

The above is an example of both first and second person, non-professional language and ownership of articles (which is against Wiki Guidelines), and most of those are errors that can be mentioned in request notes.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 15:48, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

I think that could definitely be a good idea. After the overall "structure" for this article is determined, perhaps we should assess whether it should be included.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 20:56, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Introduction

Resolved (since 21:06, 12 August 2021 (UTC))

Hi all,
I copied the introduction of Studio into the draft just to get us started. From here we can determine which sections we would like to include, what flaws they should have, etc.

In addition, I'd just like to let everyone know the timeframe of this project. It is not unlikely that we don't replace the current Flawed Article with this one until 2022, so there is really no rush.

That said, please do post additions and changes you would like to make to the Flawed Article here so that they can be added!

Thanks.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 21:06, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Regarding the introductional paragraph

Resolved (since 21:48, 14 August 2021 (UTC))

It should be changed to this:
A studio is a place where users can put multiple projects into an accessible group. Prior to Scratch 2.0, they were called galleries, and had some different features. I think the previous name is better. Most studios have a specific theme of projects. You should also follow my studio here.
This paragraph contains four errors: personal opinions, advertising, and first person twice.
  TheTrillion • Talk • 2,624 contributions • Scratch  21:12, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

 Done
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 21:48, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

A few suggested misspellings

Resolved (since 22:51, 31 August 2021 (UTC))
Feel free to mark as unresolved if you have something else to say about these suggestions

I think some words like 'etymology' and 'description' in the current version of the draft flawed article could be misspelled, if there are currently very few misspellings in the draft. I proposed those words because they are quite long and might not be used extremely frequently in everyday language, so it would not be obvious that they are misspellt.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 06:13, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

To me, that seems a little too hard. Most people, including people who would be great wiki contributors, would miss that. I know it wouldn't be make or break to see the misspelling, but it seems unnecessary
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 22:48, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I've changed "description" to "descripton" in the article. However, I didn't change "Etymology" because we already have a pretty prominent flaw in one of the headers, and I feel like two header errors would be too many. Thanks for the suggestions!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 22:51, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Errors (sort of)

Resolved (since 00:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC))

1. How about the links to the studios aren't interwiki'd. I know that's not an actual flaw on the request page, but it's something that I feel should be added. So instead of

“

These are some example studios, and you should follow them! Projects I curated, created by jvvg to showcase projects he curated when he was front page curator Minecraft (Please Read Notes), created by bigpuppy for Minecraft-related projects

”

it should be

“

These are some example studios, and you should follow them! Projects I curated], created by jvvg to showcase projects he curated when he was front page curator Minecraft (Please Read Notes)], created by bigpuppy for Minecraft-related projects

”

2. how about an outdated image? The current flawed article has one, this one could too?

3. a random emoji?
Dhuls (Talk|927 Contributions|Scratch) 23:55, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

1. Why do you think this should be changed?
2. I added an image, although I'm not sure it should be outdated as we already have quite a few flaws.
3. We already have quite a few flaws, so I did not add this. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Thanks for the suggestions!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 15:26, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion

Resolved (since 15:28, 1 September 2021 (UTC))

Maybe the user could give themselves credit for writing the article. By Example-Scratcher or something like that.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 13:38, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

I think we are trying to hold off on adding new flaws for now as we already have quite a few. Thanks for the suggestion though!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 15:28, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Refocusing the discussion

Resolved (since 15:31, 1 September 2021 (UTC))

Hi everyone,
Thanks for all the suggestions! However, please keep in mind that we're trying to be very conservative when it comes to adding new flaws. We already have quite a few, so if you have another one to add, please really think about whether it would be a necessary addition to the article.

However, we are in need for new content for the article. If you have new content to add, please comment!

Also, if you would like to suggest a change to one of the existing flaws, feel free to comment.

Thanks again!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 15:31, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

New Section?

Resolved (since 18:12, 1 September 2021 (UTC))

Maybe a new section for creating a studio could be added with this content:

You can make a studio by going to the page with your projects, and clicking the New Studio button. A blank studio will be created with the name Untitled Studio, with you being set as the manager and owner.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 18:07, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

 Done with a few changes. Thanks for the addition!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 18:12, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! Somehow, I forgot that I wasn't supposed to add anymore flaws. Sorry.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 18:14, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

An instance of ‘we’

Resolved (since 00:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC))

The pronoun 'we' is first person, and common in articles that do not meet guidelines. I think an instance of 'we' could be added into this draft, and there might be a small possibility that accepted requestors might know not to use the word 'we' in mainspace articles.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 05:57, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Do you have a certain section in mind for where this instance of "we" could be added? Also, if we (no pun intended) add this, it would probably be a good idea to remove one of the other flaws as we are trying to avoid adding too many flaws.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 03:51, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Flawed Article Changing Soon

Resolved (since 00:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC))

Hello everyone,
We are planning to put the new Flawed Article into effect on December 5^th (a week from today). If anyone has further changes that you think should be made to the article, please post them on this talk page. Please try not to suggest new flaws, however; there are already quite a few. Thanks!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 21:10, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

The Flawed Article has been updated.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 00:12, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion

Resolved (since 05:34, 30 November 2021 (UTC))

Hey everyone. I was wondering if we could add a section in the article possibly about curating/joining/hosting studios, as that is a big part of studios as well.
KangaCoder talk • contribs • profile 14:03, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Keep in mind we also want to leave sections for people to add to the article in their request notes. I think this is a good example of something like that. Thanks for bringing it up though!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 05:34, 30 November 2021 (UTC)