Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done/custom signatures

custom signatures

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Recently I've noticed many custom signatures break one specific rule:
The signature may not contain any background colors, images, or borders
Specifically, background colors and borders cannot be added to custom signatures. It is important to read that page fully before creating a custom signature. Please change it to satisfy that rule. Thank you!
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:56, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

another suggestion: we could also propose to scrap that rule so if you're up for it you may start a discussion.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:59, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

That is what I had said in my post here.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 17:03, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

clearly it got archived quicker than it should of! we'll label this not done so that doesn't happen.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:09, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Some signatures I've seen with background colors or borders don't seem to be causing any problems in my opinion, but that's just my opinion.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 17:21, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

There was an issue that came up on the CP when someone used borders and backgrounds and some issues arose. I'm not sure what archive it's under but that was the reason the rule was added.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:27, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Ah. Then maybe it might be best to keep it as a rule.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 17:28, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘I found the section with the new rules here. Not sure if that was it. Was it it?
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 18:17, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

yep, it's that one.

I still support a background-border free signature. keeps signatures super clear and also limits the amount of custom signatures on the wiki (keep in mind custom signatures are not recommended)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:42, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Is the font on mine clear enough? Just wondering...
-Vuton- (Talk 💬 | Contribs 💾 | Pages 📚) 18:47, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

@KrIsMa: I would support enforcing the rule of no borders no backgrouds (nbnb).

@Vuton: Yours is fine. If anything, I would have to change mine.

Content from older discussion (linked above):

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Warning: Your signature sub-page must have only your signature on it! Adding line breaks or even noinclude tags may mess up the format on talk pages!

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First, create a sub-page to place your custom signature in. After that, create a custom signature which has a 18*18 pixel picture on the leftmost part of the signature, a link to your own userpage and talk page. Adding a link to your contributions is also needed. Custom signatures are strictly regulated and therefore, compulsory rules must be followed when making a custom signature:

• The profile photo must be a square shape and must be 18*18 or 20*20
• The signature cannot attract undesirable attention (ex. flashy text, some flashy profile GIFs [some exceptions apply, see #Picture] in which another user would tell the custom signature creator to change the signature)
  • This also means the signature may not contain any excessively bright colors
• The signature may not contain any background colors, images, or borders
• A link to the user's user page, talk page and contributions must be present
• Links must be self-explanatory (ex. A link that says "talk" must link to a talk page, nothing else)
• Nothing not Wiki related may be added (e.g. a link to your Scratch page is allowed, but not a link to your latest Scratch project, a quote, etc.)
• Signatures must occupy one line only; there should not be any formatting that cuts to other lines, such as adding text shadow.
• Signature cannot be very long. To test, do the eight colon test. Go to the sandbox and place your signature, with timestamp, after eight colons (:). If your custom signature breaks lines, it is too long.

Keep in mind that the timestamp should always be present. Editing the design of the timestamp is not relevant under custom signatures, and should not be done.}}

Those are the rules off S:CSIG and yet I see some not being followed such as the background and border + some extremely lengthy ones. What is our position on this?
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 17:24, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

If they pass they eight colon test, than they are fine. Also, with borders, in the case on something like Kenny2Scratche's signature, that is fine since it is only bordering the small links, and not the whole signature. (I believe) And, I've never seen one with background colors, but if somebody is breaking one of these you can let them know on their talk page. Although, we should wait for some more answers.
  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 17:41, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Personally all the custom signatures I see people using don't seem to be causing any problems, but that's just my view.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 17:51, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 20:48, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

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If someone could fix the extra div tag, that would be great.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 21:12, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

You didn't even use {{collapse bottom}}... However, the extra div is something I've tried to fix and failed - no fix for that.

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ In my opinion, that previous discussion is all we need - as long as the borders and backgrounds aren't all around the sig I think it's fine. I really don't see the harm in having sigs with borders around "talk" and "contribs".

Background colors may be a bit more problematic - I wouldn't be upset if a sig I made had its background color removed. So I'm fine with that.

also "Kenny2Scratche" is the worst spelling of my name I've seen in a long time...
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  05:29, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

I would like to bring up the issue with borders and background colors used for custom signatures again.

Right now it's now allowed, yet people still do it. In fact, it's becomming more prevalent. This shows that people will (unnoticingly) break the rules because others are doing so.

Clearly not many people read the page before making their signatures, regardless of if it actually should be allowed or not. We need a stronger force that monitors custom signatures of users, or we need to disallow it altogether.
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 14:44, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

I don’t really mind custom sigs with background colours and borders tbh. As long as they don’t stand out too much they actually make discussions look prettier and easier to read.
нεllσυηιcσяηs2 (тαlк║cσηтяιвs║ρяσғιlε) 09:55, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Note: I edited this post because {{collapse top}} and bottom are complete broken here. I'll try to fix it later, but it's just weird
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  01:01, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm non-biased on this thing (because I don't have a problem if it breaks the rule, nor do I have a problem if it follow the rule) but I believe that the rules should be bent just slightly so that things like background colors and borders could work, but insane things like background colors with ~thirty different shades wouldn't be ok, and backgrounds ~20px thick wouldn't be ok. Pictures also still wouldn't be ok because 1) there is no point of pictures; and 2) if people did put pictures they would be huge.
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 21:49, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I agree with NYCDOT on this. Although custom signatures need to have less restrictions they can still allow small things like background colors and borders. Major text, images, and insane backgrounds could get prohibited. I don't really know what to say on this one, because I'm not really planning to use custom signatures at any point in my life because I don't see the point, but fine - for the sake of people that want this feature but I'm still neutral I think we should give NYCDOT's thoughts a go.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:28, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

no one has said anyone here in a while In my opinion, I don't mind borders but I mind the background colors. When things have no backgrounds it just looks cleaner.
leahcimto talk • contribs • profile 16:40, 16 January 2021 (UTC)