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Fixing account request system, round 2

So after the chronic verification code problems we've been having, it's clear we need to fix the system. So, the options are as follows:

• Generate one based on request details (similar to the old one, but make it day-dependent instead of month-dependent so it changes more frequently)
• Try to fix the current random system - please note that I have never been able to replicate the problem, so I would have no way of knowing whether my fix works or not

So, is everyone ok with the first one?

Also, while I'm there again, does anybody have any suggestions for other stuff that needs fixing/improvement?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:19, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Support the first.
TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 16:27, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Same, first seems good to me.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 15:39, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

First one sounds fine.
Eat-sleep-softball (talk | contribs) 03:56, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

1st sounds great!!
CoolBoy5677 (talk | contribs) 07:21, 30 April 2015 (GMT)

has the new updates been added?

just want to see if the new updates have been added like the crop tool
Powercon5 (talk | contribs) 18:14, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

I'll add owe today if they have not.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 15:38, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

ok thanks
Powercon5 (talk | contribs) 01:21, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Any bot ideas?

My bot proposal, BlockerBot, was a flop but I couldn't think of any good ideas for my new bot proposal. Can you suggest some?
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 22:02, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Why ask for ideas? The point of bots is to fix problems that humans can't resolve easily. If there's not a great need for a bot, why try and make one anyway?
Scratchifier (talk | contribs) 22:46, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Wikians hate me... *facepalm*
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 23:22, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Why would you think that? I am merely answering your question with some input. I don't have anything against you... :P
Scratchifier (talk | contribs) 01:13, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

We don't hate you at all! We value all contributions from all of our editors. It's just that were are reluctant to add new bots because they often consume a lot of resources and we prefer only to have them used for important tasks. Also, as Scratchifier said, bots are made to solve problems. If there isn't a problem, there's no need to come up with a solution.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:43, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Russian Scratch Wiki

Plesase, update Scratch Wiki InterWiki from http://scratch-wiki.besaba.com to http://scratch-ru.info — Dmith ^{(talk | contribs)} 07:44, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Congrats!

This Wiki has become extremely difficult to update. That means... We've done a good job! I come and go for account requests and all but in general the Wiki can be considered up to date, clean, and informative, so I don't edit many articles anymore.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 00:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Agreed. When I joined, I was like...Hmm...What can I do here...???
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 13:15, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

great work everyone
Powercon5 (talk | contribs) 22:26, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Curious. How long has it taken?
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 22:34, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Around two years, from guessing alone?

Anyway, I have to agree with Turkey3. This Wiki is thorough enough that I've become inactive here, minus some account requests.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 03:27, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

• lots and lots of account requests

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 05:08, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Archive?

This has gotten pretty long... and have been 3 days since any activity (excluding this post) here. Archive?
TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 15:44, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

I would say yes.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 17:52, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

yeah :)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 14:10, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Agreed!--
Fmtfmtfmt2 (talk | contribs) 15:46, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Archived! This is actually the first time I've archived the CP... Hopefully I did a good job.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 03:33, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

WikiEditor Extension

It would be very handy, can somebody who can contact the Server Manager add it? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 13:02, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

Great request notes from the last month (and a half)

Sorry for not posting this at the beginning of the month. Here they are, in all their glory:

it is fun

because is so good and you are more seriosly and more good

want to contribute

I Want To Make A Scratch Account Cant LogIn With scratch 1.4 account :) so i make a new

for fun

I will update old pages

i could help update old pages

Because i will make scratch a better place for kids and adults

Because without me scratch wont be really good i will add lots of stuff

Because i want to tell people more about scratch and others!

Because I want an account.

To help the SCRATCH Wiki grow of course!

Because i would like to help the scratch community.

to help other scratchers

I need help on my scratch project

so I can learn more about scratch

I want view more thing in this Wiki

because i love scratch and i would like to help with it

Because I always wanted to be a user in the wiki.

big fan of scratch

Because I want to help beginner Scratchers make awesome things.

Once again, I am profoundly disappointed by the amount of very poorly request notes I keep seeing (there are plenty more not on this list). People go through the trouble of finding all the pages to submit an account request, while many of them don't even indicate that they know what the Wiki is. Many people simply think that it's like the forums or just another community and don't realize it's actually a high-quality, high-standards documentation website. A bunch of people also seem to think it's simply a place to advertise their projects (S:NOSP.....). Yet, despite their lack of any information about what this is and lack of reading the page (it even says very clearly that their account request will be rejected if they didn't read the page), they submit a request anyway. Either they think we're bluffing and just accept every request or they just check every box without even reading what's in the box. To that end, it's worth pointing out that in this time period (~6 weeks), two requests had no request notes at all (i.e. blank).

That being said, these past few weeks, we've also gotten more good requests than usual, but still nowhere near as many as the quantity of bad requests.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:03, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

True... but I have to admit that some of those are hilarious. Such as "Because without me scratch wont be really good i will add lots of stuff" Uh huh. :P

Anyway, I didn't see mine on there....so I guess mine was a decent one.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 19:42, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

My fav is "because is so good and you are more seriosly and more good".
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 21:34, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Yah. That's a good one. XD
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 22:52, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Lol

"I Want To Make A Scratch Account Cant LogIn With scratch 1.4 account :) so i make a new"

"I need help on my scratch project"
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 21:05, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

The 152th front page curator..

The newest curator is elea0042. I hope some EW or admin will update the wiki news
Really_A (talk | contribs) 23:02, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

 Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:22, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Yay!
Really_A (talk | contribs) 23:42, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Japanese Scratch Wiki

Hello! We're setting up a japanese Wiki right now. Could an Admin please enable interwiki? The japanese Wiki is here: http://jp.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/%E3%83%A1%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%83%9A%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B8 . - LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 19:11, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

How many pages does the Japanese wiki have? How many users?

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 15:48, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Well, we're just getting started, nothing is really done yet. Actually it's not necessary to get interwiki already, but in the German, Indonesian and Russian Wiki, we are already connected with the Japanese wiki with interwiki, so I thought the English Wiki might want to join us. - LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 16:21, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

We usually wait until some pages are made and there is activity on it!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:25, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Okay thanks! I'll wait and leave another post as soon as the wiki is running! - LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 08:23, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

great :)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:44, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Idea

Idea, Could you make it so we could link scratch projects to the wiki?
CaseyWolfgang (talk | contribs)

what do you mean?

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:45, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

I think he/she means that we should be able to create live links here on the wiki back to scratch projects on the main scratch site. That's my guess.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 13:06, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

hmm, we can use the external links like this to link to scratch projects? ;)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:56, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

What i mean, is that we could have a real playable player to use in the wiki for tests. --
CaseyWolfgang (talk | contribs) 14:58, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Namespace problem

Hi, I'm an administrator on our Russian Scratch Wiki. And a few day ago I find out some problem: talk namespace has wrong name: try to open this page in Russian SW. Now try to open talk page from menu (Обсуждение button). So, look to URL: Обсуждение:Скретч Вики:Портал сообщества. But it must be Обсуждение Скретч Вики:Портал сообщества. Like Talk:Scratch Wiki:Community Portal.

What's happened with Russian SW, and how to solve this problem?

P.S.: Scratch Wiki admins, help me please! — Dmith ^{(talk | contribs)} 20:49, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

That means in the russian (and german) wiki instead of "Scratch Wiki talk: Community Portal" it is "Talk:Scratch Wiki:Community Portal". (Maybe the community portal is a bad example because it's kind of a special page but it's the same with other articles - do you understand what we mean?) - LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 20:54, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

Update interwiki

Plz, update interwiki [[ru:Главная страница Скретч Вики]] to [[ru:Заглавная страница]] — Dmith ^{(talk | contribs)} 17:06, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

SOMEONE?!! — Dmith ^{(talk | contribs)} 17:25, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

On which page?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 12:41, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki Home page — Dmith ^{(talk | contribs)} 20:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

 Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Will people call me immature here?

On Animal Jam Wiki, I was hassled by many admins for being "immature" and was finally banned forever. So I never wanted to go or take anything from that wiki anymore.

So, here on this nice Scratch Wiki, I was free to say stuff in CAPS and talk about anything. But will anybody call me immature?
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 20:56, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Not me as long as it's appropriate stuff...
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 00:38, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

You are welcome to talk in caps on talk pages (though on real articles, please write normally). Please don't use them excessively though, and italics are also a nice way to emphasize certain words. We don't judge you for it as long as you keep it on talk pages.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:55, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Adding on to what jvvg and Amateurradiogeek said, I remember awhile ago we had a user who liked Capitalizing The Beginning Of Every Word. They Said It Was Easier To Type That Way. They were treated well, like any other Scratcher. Extending that idea, I'm sure you'll be fine writing in caps, if you're obviously not yelling or doing it on talk pages.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:27, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Personally, I would actually prefer all CAPS versus trying to continually adjust to Something Like This The Whole Time I'm Reading....
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 01:24, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Oh dear. That sounds harsh.
Cool_Guy10 (talk | contribs)

Spring cleaning

I was thinking we should do some spring cleaning and clean out the lists of unused files and unused categories. If everyone's ok with it, I will put a notice on all of those files saying that they will be removed shortly unless someone wants to keep them.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:59, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

we should keep the blocks for historical reference

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:07, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

I'll exclude those, then.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:14, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Two good ideas.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 01:26, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

I deleted two that really didn't need to be there. I'll post notices for the others.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 01:29, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Oh noes, gotta make use for my unused files!
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 13:22, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

i could use my bot to add the notices?

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:43, 28 March 2015 (UTC)

Good idea, that will be easier.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 22:12, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Done, and after a week, I'll compile a list of which page has that template on it.
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:39, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

addendum - for categories, maybe manually do it now?

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:40, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

oh yeah time to delete them - and i will compile a list right now

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 03:23, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

 Done!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:23, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

New Curator again..

Sorry, this is so boring. But there is a new curator, MasterTurtle7. Can any EW or Admin change the news section  ? I think she's become a FPC at 30th March?
Really_A (talk | contribs) 22:46, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

 Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:22, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

OK. Sorry for bothering you!
Really_A (talk | contribs) 11:31, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

It's okay! Things are slow down here, and it's easy to skip over things.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:23, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Time for new featured stuff?

It is probably about time that the featured images/article be changed on the wiki home page. Featured Articles/Images Candidates
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 14:07, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

We could use a few more suggestions, though.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:54, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Let's bring out the April Fools today!

^^^
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 21:07, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Hmm. Tomorrow for me. Hope no one takes a fancy to harassing me. (Yes, I know that comment just condemned me to harassment.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 22:22, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Why do you think everyone's going to harass you :O ?? We're nice here.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 01:56, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Yay! Happy April Fools day everyone!
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 03:20, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Tomorrow for me too :P. But I love what they've done with the Wiki! So funny!
Chacharosie8888 (talk | contribs) 05:29, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

proposition

i brought up a proposition to change all the Category:Scratch 2.0 Images to anyone of the subcategories and I just wanted you to know that I have asked and I should start soon :)
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:15, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

 Done!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:38, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Heads Up

I wanted to point out that the DACH Scratch Wiki is currently in the process of making a Japanese Scratch Wiki. You can view the wiki request here: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/863444/
Remember, it is not guaranteed the Japanese Wiki will be made, but I hope so.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 22:56, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

This is awesome! We are spreading to more and more cultures. I think eventually it would be nice if all the Wiks were together and had a language bar somewhere on every page like the Scratch home site.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 15:41, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

That WOULD be cool!
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 16:29, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

That would be good
Powercon5 (talk | contribs) 13:22, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

I just realized @LiFay had already commented about the Japanese Wiki. Oh well. :)
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 19:23, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Something cool

Can anyone import this template I found on the DACH wiki to here?
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 22:17, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the <iframe> tag needs to be enabled, and enabling it would allow for users to inject other websites into the Wiki, which could actually potentially cause security threats.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:00, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Is there a way to enable it only on http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/...
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 04:10, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Not easily.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 12:25, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

We never installed it, but Extension:Scratch exists. Unfortunately, it's for the old Java Player. If anyone wants to update it, that would be nice. Then we could probably get scmb1 or someone to install it. Related (wow i was young then :P): Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 31#We GOTTA Have This Extension
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 11:47, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Our contribution to Scratch2015ams

Hello! So the DACH wiki is working on a contribution to the Scratch Conference in Amsterdam this year. We have made this article in our wiki that summarizes the content of our talk and poster: de:Scratch-Wiki:Scratch2015AMS. The page is in english, so everyone can understand it. One section of the article is "Thoughts by Wikians". It shall contain quotes from wikians to motivate others to either join or create a wiki. Until now it only contains one quote, by Rumanti. We would like to add more quotes. Therefore I am asking you, if anyone of you would like to share their thoughts on wikis or maybe even on international wikis. Thank you :) - LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 13:42, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

hmm... Wikis are great because they allow different people with different views to edit the wiki. This, in turn, allows a full scope of information to one wiki page, and that is what makes a Wiki special.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:14, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, added! - LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 20:05, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

wikis are helpful because they let all different people share and learn new things
Powercon5 (talk | contribs) 21:43, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki 2015 Easter Egg Hunt

I'm suggesting that idea because it will relate to Easter and it will be FUN!!! In this event, people have to search for 10 Easter eggs hidden among 1,493 articles. Clicking them will link to a surprise.
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 22:45, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

we could - it would be fun!

but it would only be for wiki members, and not for anyone else :( idk if that is a prob. or not.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:12, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Can I go hide the eggs?
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 12:22, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

that would be very cool
Powercon5 (talk | contribs) 22:01, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Base template

We could combine the formats of {{Note}}, {{Caution}}, and {{Warning}} into a single meta-template called something like {{Notebase}}.

For example

{{Notebase|file = File:Bananas.png|title = Yoda|text = This is some useless text}}

gives:

Yoda: This is some useless text.

If the file isn't specified it gives an error.

If the file is specified but the title isn't specified, it gives an error.

If the file and title, but not the text, is specified, it gives no text.

Yoda:

What do you think?
3sal2 (talk | contribs) 23:48, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, great proposition! What uses would it contribute to the wiki? :)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:13, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

It may make the templates more compact and easier to edit.
3sal2 (talk | contribs) 02:44, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

hmm, but what if we really need to create {{note}}? in that case, with your template we would have to find the image, the text, etc i'd wait until others reply!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 04:45, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Sounds great! I think it would make editing and adding templates much more easier and simple, and cuts some unneeded process.
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 07:35, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Done.

Scratch Team Member:

Paddle2See

PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 23:20, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

T2

Okay, I've created a new template, {{T2}}. It allows you to specify a template and up to five parameters. Unlike {{T}}, however, they can represent anything that is plugged in. For example,

I just need to create a doc. In fact, I made this for documentations and the like.
3sal2 (talk | contribs) 02:59, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

so a difference between {{outdent|<outdent>}} and Template:T2?

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 04:46, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Exactly! I may start converting docs today!
3sal2 (talk | contribs) 15:19, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Why is this better than the existing {{t}}? I happen to like the way it emphasizes example parameters.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 10:10, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

agree with sci

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:08, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ More realistic in the edit thing.
3sal2 (talk | contribs) 20:19, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

i actually like the old one better. we can just use nowiki tags for this.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:21, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

since we have a 1:2 ratio between agree/disagree, i am going to wait for about a week and then if more people disagree i will unfortunately delete the template by cp consensus  :(

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:23, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

no response =  Done

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:47, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

Question.

Is it possible to be banned on the main website but not on the wiki?

I'm serious.

The ST hates me.

I might have exposed a security hole...

...They're probably plotting to ban me as we speak.

TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 23:09, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, if you are banned on the main site, you will not be banned on the Wiki unless the behavior carries over or you cause excessive drama about it. If you are banned on the main site, please do not talk about it here and you will still be allowed to edit. However, if you seriously think the ST is out to get you, it's worth considering that Scratch may not be for you. If you did find a security hole (I found several back when I was an active main site user, like this one), you should report it to the Scratch Team immediately. Also, they don't "plot" to ban people. They discuss whether it is necessary or not. They consider both the user's positive contributions, history of bad behavior (or lack thereof), and the most recent actions. Not everybody believes this, but the Scratch Team really doesn't like to ban people. It's not fun for anyone, can cause undue stress on the bannee (if that's a word), and the Scratch Team knows they always have to deal with the appeals process.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:49, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Logo Question

Hello! I changed my logo on the main site about oh...3 days ago and I notice it hasn't changed on the wiki. Is this normal? Thanks!
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 23:30, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

It can take a while for the logos on the Wiki to change. It will, don't worry.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:44, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Ok thank you!
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 13:07, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

if it still doesn't, try clearing your cache!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:42, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Looks like it did! Thanks guys!
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 13:07, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

New SDS: Create Your Own Planet!

A new SDS is out! Can someone update the wiki news?
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 13:52, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Ugh! You beat me! I just want to say this.. but.. yeah..
Really_A (talk | contribs) 15:15, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

XD competition in the works....
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 16:56, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

LOL I kinda have an advantage being an SDS curator though...
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 17:12, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Added to the news.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:20, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Rub it in Grits, rub it in.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 00:45, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm not trying to be mean in any way, I was just stating I would have an advantage in a competition.
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 21:15, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I know. I was just trying to pull your leg a bit!
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 13:08, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

In other languages

Is it just me, or the little box saying "In other languages" isn't in every page of the Wiki? I believe this doesn't really make much sense, as nevertheless of the page you are in the Scratch Wiki you may want to switch the language to one you understand. So far, I think only the home page of this Wiki has this box, which doesn't seem about right in my opinion. So what do you think?
Tcodina (talk | contribs) 16:46, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

That box only shows for pages that have a version of that page available on a Wiki in another language.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:54, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, I noticed, but maybe people do not understand English at all and would like to go to the Scratch Wiki in their language instead, even if the page they are at cannot be translated to their language? That's what I think, anyway, maybe it would be more obvious for the user. Although, that's how most Wikis work, so I guess it's okay.
Tcodina (talk | contribs) 19:15, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Read about Interwiki — Dmith ^{(talk | contribs)} 16:48, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Bugs

This is happening on some pages.

• Image 1
• Image 2

PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 21:03, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

This hasn't ever happened for me... What browser (include version, please) and OS are you using?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:43, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

it is to me too on my User:KrIsMa/Sandbox the gradient vertical thing thanks for bring it up ppl!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:49, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

It happened on me, the same thing as Image 2.
Jandrewg (talk | contribs) 21:33, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

The New SDS

Excuse me, in the wiki news I think it should be "Create A Planet", instead of "Create Your Own Planet".
Really_A (talk | contribs) 04:36, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

ok. i fixed it :)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 04:52, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Servers Down?

Hey, not sure if it's okay to put this here, but are the servers down right now? This is the only page I can access, so just wondering. I can't get to anything else really on Scratch except the help pages. :/
Jefferson8 (talk | contribs) 23:39, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

Oops, looks like they're working again. :) Sorry.

Jefferson8 (talk | contribs) 23:42, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

;)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:43, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

New curator

We got a new curator! It's HEAVENBRAND, can anyone update that?
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 20:29, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

 Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:40, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Going Inactive.

Hi, just thought I'd let everyone know I'll be going inactive here and on scratch for the rest of the week. Going on vacation to Indiana. Should be fun as long as we don't get rained on! Anyway, just so no one's wondering what happened to me.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 15:22, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

OK, Enjoy your vacation!
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 20:51, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Bye!
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 20:55, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

bye! have fun!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:33, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! I did have a great time! I'm sore now though! Had enough hiking to last me for a LONG time. :P Obviously, I'm back now.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 19:23, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

You're back now? Why would I want to see your back???

But jokes aside, welcome back! It sounds like you had a fun time hiking. There are some really neat things you can experience through hiking.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 19:37, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Oh deffidently! I'm not a hiker that likes to walk between trees on a gravel path...I like getting dirty. XD I have an awesome back!
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 00:03, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

New Tumbleblog for bad request notes?

Tumblr seems like the best place for this stuff; there are several blogs that are just repostings of rejected things or other short, copy-paste posts (bad kids jokes, bad Wikipedia writing, etc.). There are several ways we could go about doing this:

• I post all notes that I find funny (or just all instantly-rejected notes, period)
• You guys can set up Tumblr accounts and I can add you to the blog
• We can make a bot do it (would be really cool but it might require the creation of a new option to handle requests, "Reject and Mark as Hilarious")

I'll start with the first option, and start [1]. If anyone objects to the idea, I can stop.

Warning:

All content on the above linked blog is Scratch-appropriate (ATM), but not absolutely all Tumblr content is Scratch-appropriate. No lateral movements. I cannot take responsibility for Scratch users viewing content on Tumblr, including that on my main blog.

Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:49, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Cool
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 23:35, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

jvvg might be very interested in this idea!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:40, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Add me! My username is jvvg-scratch.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:42, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I don't feel like participating, but I sure bet jvvg would love it.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:56, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Also, you misspelled "account" in the URL.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:26, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I May code the bot if accepted.
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 02:05, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I think doing this manually is the best option.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 11:03, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Cool! Nice idea.
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 14:11, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ oh yeah, if you have the time, please add me too! :) gloriousgalaxyking
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 14:30, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Another funny thing I notice sometimes is users' replies to my standard immediate rejection message ("Your Scratch Wiki account request was rejected because you did not read http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/S:CONTRIB before submitting your request."). One user wrote the following:

“	I would like to join this because I can write stuff about myself and people won't tell me that this is the wrong info.	”
– The request notes

“	Ok I understand. And in fact I did read it.	”
– The reply to my comment

It appears as if people think I can't tell that they aren't following the guidelines in that page. It's also not as if the guidelines are obscure. It says everything in no uncertain language.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:53, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, to add people, I'll have to get your email addresses again. Just send fan mail on tumblr to mathfreak231. A few things to address before I add people:

• Copy and paste the entire request notes box. No more, no less.
• Don't add a title.
• Make witty remarks in the tags section! See what I've done for examples. You can mirror your reject notes.
• Generally speaking, when you're about to post, click on the dropdown next to "Post" and select "Add to queue". This staggers posts and is especially helpful when you have multiple to add at once.
• Only add the instant rejects, and don't post blank ones.

Have fun!
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Honestly I don't think this blog, nor posting rejected request notes, is really appropriate... it seems to be making fun of people who misunderstand the page, or perhaps are younger and find the page difficult to understand. Plus people likely write the notes only expecting the admins will read them, and probably wouldn't want them shown to a larger audience—I know I wouldn't've wanted any more people reading mine. Although I know I'm not really active in this community anymore, those are just my two cents.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 16:19, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

You raise a valid point, veggie. I just started it because Tumblr was the most convenient thing on earth for this and because we've already been doing it in the past.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:43, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

good point. a compilation is good, but not with the tags?

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 03:56, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Add to the checkbox "I understand that if my request notes are ridiculously bad (if you tried they probably aren't) they may be publicly posted as wiki humor"? Might encourage more users to try harder :P
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:09, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

A documentation on Scratch APIs

Inspired by Firedrake969's awesome topic that compiles the Scratch APIs found and several posts on the Advanced Topics stating that "the Scratch Wiki doesn't have a good documentation of the APIs", I have been compiling some special URLs found by the 1337/swag/nice users from the Advanced Topics and also by me. It's on my sandbox. I'm wondering if it's OK to turn this documentation into a Scratch Wiki article.. Opinions? In my opinion, it would be very useful, the ATers would feel honored, and some of these could be workarounds for some Scratch suggestions!
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 13:54, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

That sounds like a wonderful idea for an article. I say go ahead!
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 16:14, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Awesome! It's here: Scratch APIs. It needs a category, but I don't know what category it belongs to ^^". If anyone's confident on what category it belongs to, please categorize it.
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 00:07, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

We got a suggestion

https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/109078/
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 20:50, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

this is a great suggestion (and one that should be of high priority). I will tell you what I think about this problem later!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 15:58, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

I suggested adding the rename user feature a while back, but people didn't seem too enthusiastic about it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:08, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

hm,, how would we know that someone deleted their accounts?

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 21:47, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

We would know because the Wiki account they currently have doesn't have an equivalent page on the Scratch website.

@PrincessPandaLover: Support. I think this would be a nice feature to have.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:12, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

hmm, but some people delete their accounts without telling the wiki community, so there will be accounts that exist for non-existent accounts - and idk about people reclaiming deleted user's usernames? idk

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:44, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

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I support this idea too!

CoolBoy5677 user | talk | contribs | edits 18:17, 3 May 2015 (GMT)

How do you create a bot?

First off, how do you create a bot? What programming languages knowledge are required? What levels (medium, advanced etc)? I'm thinking that the Indonesian Scratch Wiki may need bots at some point soon, not now, and it would be nice to learn first for some time, before we actually need it. Also, I knew some Python (2.8, not 3) and JavaScript, is that going to be helpful?
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 14:08, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

That has programming languages you can use
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 14:26, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

I have read that. But I need more information, like levels of experience or a special library or something.
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 14:36, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

You just need something with basic HTTP libraries and either XML or JSON parsing capabilities.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:05, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. Sorry for asking too much questions, but how do you learn how to create one? Or does when you master the right programming language, some sort of knowledge "magically" (it has happened to me before on other stuff) comes to you?
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 10:11, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

I already knew PHP before writing my bot. I just read up on the libraries and looked at some examples.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 11:44, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Verification code troubles again

The Scratch Team changed the format of the comments API on me recently, and as a result the verification code system broke. After tweaking the regex pattern, I have fixed it, but until the fix is implemented, we won't have any account requests. If anyone asks you about it, just say to wait until it's fixed, which hopefully will be soon.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:20, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Alrighty! Good to know as I've been talking to someone who's thinking about it. Just let us know when it's fixed!
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 18:33, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Hopefully, they will accept my patch quickly. However, it is nearing final exam season in college and scmb1 might not be checking her messages as frequently, so it might take longer.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:32, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Yikes. Maybe let another ST member know on the main website so that they can contact scmb1 more directly?
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 12:10, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Dumb question, but why does it have to be scmb1? Why not another member of the ST...?
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 12:42, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Not a dumb question at all. I don't know. Based on what jvvg said, maybe scmb1 is in charge of applying the patches on behalf of the ST?
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 13:47, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Yah, perhaps...I guess only jvvg knows! Maybe he'll decide to tell us.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 15:00, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

scmb1 is the most active bureaucrat of the wiki :)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 15:37, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Ok. Just read on his profile that it's fixed. Cheers!
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 15:41, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

scmb1 is the ST member that usually does Wiki stuff.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:25, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Ok, scmb1 put the fix in place and I was able to submit a request successfully.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:58, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Yay! We all like it when things work! :D
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 00:04, 28 April 2015 (UTC)