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archive 47

 Done

This page was archived once again.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:02, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for helping out, Curiouscrab. (Can we call you Ccrab? It's easier to type.) Next time, please leave the archiving to the admins. :) I have an idea to enforce that actually. Protecting the next few archives, so that non-admins can't edit. I'll go ahead and do that; they can always be unprotected later, if need be.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 10:09, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

categories

 Done

I noticed I had a lot of pages within my user namespace. Can I make a category for my stuff only? I know what the purpose of categories are, and it would be organizing my stuff. It' s definitely a better idea than making a category with all the users or user talk pages.

Please respond soon,
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 23:46, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

no, you can't.

it may perhaps be a better idea than that, but it's not really useful; categories are used to organise pages so that readers can easily find pages related to a topic they're interested in, as well as to make it so we can find everything. our policy is to not allow pages in the user and user talk namespaces to be categorised. you can also just alternately click here to see all the pages in between your userpage and the userpage of the user with the following name alphabetically.

adieu
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 23:53, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Idea: I'll make a box like the friends one and the favorites one and add my pages in it. But thanks for your advice anyway.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 00:17, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Adding Done and Not done templates to discussions

 Done

Curiouscrab suggested (on Luc's talk page) that we start using {{done}} and {{not done}} more. He said we should put them at the end of CP topics, but i think it would do better at the beginning. So, what do others think? I did it to this topic so we can see what it looks like.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 09:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

I think it looks better at the top, next to the title; it'll be consistently next to the header and is easy to jump to.
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 10:05, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what i thought too. And also, you don't have to worry about people commenting after the template instead of before.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 10:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Using this Templates makes sense to me. Example:Please start with Interwiki was definetively "not done" but archived again -
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:49, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I unarchived the conversation and added {{not done}} to the top. :)
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 15:32, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I think this is done, i like the idea a lot!
KrIsMa (talk | contribs) 15:34, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

I see the logic behind this suggestion and how it would be useful, however I'm not totally sure about the idea and all of the specifics. I'll look over it and possibly discuss it with JSO when I get some free time.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 03:57, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

It's just an easy cue, so that someone doesn't have to read through the entire topic to see whether it was resolved or not. Anyways, what's the point of the templates if not for something great like this? :)
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:25, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

New SDS

 Done

There is a new sds.
Joletole (talk | contribs) 17:10, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

OK, updated the news. You misspelled "Super Heroes" btw.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:28, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Whoops! I was typing fast.
Joletole (talk | contribs) 23:47, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

That's why i always copy/paste directly. :)
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:32, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

about my suggestion, some details need clarifying

 Done

It seems that the admins liked my idea, and so we've begun using it. But some details are unclear. The following details have been blurred out and need discussion to decide whether or not they pass or veto (presidential allusion):

• When a post says  Done, can anymore be added on?
  • If so, does it stay  Done or does it change to  Not done?
    • If unsure, does it stay  Done if only one quick comment was put on that doesn't need a reply, or does it become open again since somebody posted something new?
• There is a conversation going on about where the  Done and  Not done template go. Does it go in the header or the first line of text?

This can be referred to if anybody has any questions. I already added it in to the help box, so no worries there.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 00:07, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Adding  Done isn't closing the topic; just marking that it doesn't need more discussion. If it actually needs more discussion, it should be switched to  Not done, but if it's just comments like "glad this was implemented" it should stay  Done. It should go on the first line of text, not in the header.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:32, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

But if we put it in the header you can look at the Contents box and see what gets archived and what doesn't.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 20:17, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

But putting it in the header messes up the anchors.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:54, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

New Curator

 Done

There is a new curator, Wes64. An admin needs to update the news.
Coinman (talk | contribs) 22:30, 12 November 2012 (UTC)

OK.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:46, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

MY USERPAGE IS MESSED UP

 Done

I was on my userpage and all of a sudden weird script appeared and the title changed back to the default of all capitals.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:35, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

i see. Preview all your recent changes until it goes away, then compare the revert that glitched your page with the next revert you made. Ya, its quite complicated.
KrIsMa (talk | contribs) 23:07, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Im fixing it now...
KrIsMa (talk | contribs)

newest article tag messup.
KrIsMa (talk | contribs)

Done, i removed it for you, you might need to find the right tag, i removed it because it was glitching out of my phone!
KrIsMa (talk | contribs) 23:16, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

What was it?
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 00:40, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

A tag you put in, the New article one.
KrIsMa (talk | contribs) 20:50, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

New Curator

 Done

There's a new curator, zbugni. I beat coinman.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:55, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

OK.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 17:20, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be put in to Mait mode too?

 Not done

Shouldn't the wiki also be put in maintenance mode too, as for the website.
Joletole (talk | contribs) 01:22, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

The wiki is hosted on a separate server; this is why the wiki will sometimes be down when the site isn't.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 01:47, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Also, sorry bout that done/not done template I didn't put up. I am just so used to the old version. (I like the old version better, where you didn't have to add the templates).
Joletole (talk | contribs) 01:50, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

It makes it easier for admins to create archives by seeing what conversations still need to stay and what conversations can go. easier for cleanup, and I have a feeling I know why you don't like it. Also, here's a link you might like.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 01:56, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Actually, we never decided that we were using them. I personally don't like them, but it's up to Lucario and JSO to decide.

Also, Curiouscrab, please keep links relevant to the discussion.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 01:59, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

You can see here to see the other admins' opinions. Scimonster said

“	What else would we use the templates for other than this great idea? :)	”
– Scimonster

Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 02:06, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

I believe sysops, including Scimonster, don't have jurisdiction on this; that's his opinion, definitely, but that doesn't mean it's definitely going to happen. Since this definitely impacts the way everyone discusses things on the wiki, we need bureaucrat input. Lucario in particular sounded somewhat negative, but, again, we still need to wait for their consensus.

Here's what I'd recommend in the meantime: Continue to add them to your discussions if it so pleases you, but don't modify others' if they don't add it.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 02:19, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

As veggie said, we need someone higher up the chain to agree with this. Also, I know there is a way to get a preloaded text when editing a page. (also, your link that led me to log off, well, it took me 15 min to get back on cause I didn't know my password for the wiki.)
Joletole (talk | contribs) 03:10, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Weird. I found it on your userpage. ;)
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 20:20, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Is there a template that does this?

http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/File:Ifeq_parser_function.png

I think it compares the first two arguments, returns the third if they are equal, the fourth otherwise. {{ifeq:1|2|3|4}} doesn't work though. Its probably me being a fail. Does an ifeq template, or something similar, exist?
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 02:42, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

It's a parser function—for more information about it specifically, see here.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 02:47, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Parser functions aren't actual templates, but they are used like templates. You would do "{{#ifeq: text | text | equal | not equal}}", which would print "equal".
Ihaveamac (talk | contribs) 03:02, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, I missed the hash. Lemme try. equal Woah!
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 03:04, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

There are also some that are like templates (without the #) but still aren't real templates. {{NAMESPACE}} would return "Scratch Wiki talk" here.
Ihaveamac (talk | contribs) 03:10, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Also, do you all like my math problem? :P See my userpage. And cool! I never knew about # "templates".
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 03:14, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Ban

If someoqne is banned on the main site or forums, will they be banned here? My frieqnd wants to know. (So do I :P)
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 17:35, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

EDIT: Last I read, no ("bans are almost never given on wiki"), but I just wanted to make sure.
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 17:37, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

It's true—they're not. I've been banned four times from the main site and never once here.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 17:43, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm currently banned on the MS&F (and they're ignoring me), so I just wanted to make sure. Thanks!
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 18:07, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, I doubt they're ignoring you. It takes them a while to get to emails. :)
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 18:12, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Like 10 days? :P
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 18:14, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

It's taken me from fifteen minutes to like a day for me, but I've heard of them taking much, much longer. They're also probably busier now with the active development of 2.0.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 18:40, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, I don't think it should take them that long; I would estimate 3 or 4 days, and not 10.
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 18:53, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Hmm, they usually get back to me faster than that. Mod privileges i guess. :P
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 03:31, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Well, zippynk told me they got back to him in ~12 hours... (and someone use that outdent template since I can't find it please)
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 03:45, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘There you go, Molybdenum.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 18:31, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 18:32, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome!
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 18:34, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

multiple names for templates

Some templates may I have weird name. Can there be a way to have multiple names for one template? Sometimes I put in ;) and wonder if I could put in {{;)}} and get .
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 00:26, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Create Template:;) with the content #REDIRECT Template:Wink
Ihaveamac (talk | contribs) 00:28, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure if the template or the redirect would show up on the page.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 00:33, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

The redirect will not show up. This is in use on Wikipedia as well. Also,  Redirect made.
Ihaveamac (talk | contribs) 00:35, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Userpage Subcategory

 Done

Could there be a subcategory for stuff to put on your userpage, that way those templates are separated from the non-userpage templates?
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 17:13, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I created it, but it hasn't been deleted. It must be good.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:28, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Ton of uncategorized images

Why are there so many uncategorized images all of a sudden?
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 17:34, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

What kinds of images?
Ihaveamac (talk | contribs) 17:39, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

There's a couple of user images, and a lot of block workaround images.
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 17:42, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Do you have an example?
Ihaveamac (talk | contribs) 17:44, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Here: Special:UncategorizedFiles and Special:UncategorizedPages
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 17:51, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Nothing under Uncategorized Files, but there are 50 uncategorized pages.
Ihaveamac (talk | contribs) 17:52, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Weird, there was a ton a little while ago.
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 18:03, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

You had to clear your cache. Also, I think we should categorize all the Disambig pages.
Joletole (talk | contribs) 18:07, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Support: maybe a Category:Disambiguation?
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 18:34, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Here.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 18:37, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Hmm. Those only show links to disambigs, and most links are needed, like the other uses ones.
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 18:41, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I think the admins would disagree. They would say that this is good enough.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 18:43, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Oh, ok.
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 18:45, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Category:Disambiguations exists, however I broke Template:Disambig's categorization by accident. I've fixed that...
Ihaveamac (talk | contribs) 18:46, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

A little help?

Template:Off Topic Two people have "trolled" my project 50 Bits: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Molybdenum/2660843 . Can someone flag the 3 most recent comments please?
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 18:49, 2 December 2012 (UTC) (Sorry if I shouldn't put this here)

Why? What's wrong with them? Robo99bot just got a wiki account. Woohoo, go Danball. I haven't been on there since I started Scratch.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 18:57, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

You aren't supposed to restart, as explained in the rules.
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 19:02, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I see. I made one. Is this the correct code then? JZZZZZE{((PFE{K(ZFEE[GLFFL}MIFE{C[IFEMC{PFEB}D{VEEMKEFEJKBZVE[]Z(VEZVZZVE[]T(VEZVTZVF[BZZVCZS((]FZZXVVFFPXFVFSBHVF][LS)SSC{}EV]VRLCSFC}LCVFZZPEVFYZS)VFZZJZFFZZZZVC((((]JZZZZZZZZZZZ
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:03, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Looks good! Now comment it there, and you won't even have to flag, just like skriptor!
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 19:06, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

You closed the comments. I put it on your latest project.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:11, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Now that's just spam, and I don't think I locked the coments.. Of course, since the ST banned me for no reason, I can't check." DELETE THE COMMENT!"
Molybdenum (talk | contribs) 19:14, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I think there should be an "off topic section" template, instead of tagging everything with {{Off Topic}}.
Ihaveamac (talk | contribs) 19:17, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Sounds like a better idea.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:23, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

New SDS [1]

There is a new SDS! 3,000,000 million projects!
Joletole (talk | contribs) 21:42, 3 December 2012 (UTC)