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Are You Allowed to Include your ....

Yes Resolved (since 06:14, 22 August 2022 (UTC))

... roblox username on you user page? Roblox users can allow anyone to chat them, not just their friends and so that could be linking un-modded chat.
Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 20:34, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

I think you've answered your own question. Feel free to report edits that introduce such information (go to page history, and click "report" next to "undo").
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
21:06, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
But Scratch itself does allow Roblox usernames (and links - post:4285551). There is even a forum topic full of people sharing their Roblox usernames: topic:5086
Maximouse (talk | contribs) 16:19, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Yes, since Roblox has a very strict filter, too strict in many people's opinions (I can confirm this as I am an active player and have been for the last few years), and the private chat deletes messages with only one word filtered, correctly or incorrectly.
garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 15:43, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
Adding on to what others have said, "discord" is censored, and users under 13 years of age cannot send or recieve private messages (excluding your automated welcome message and news), and users over 13 years of age can control if everyone, friends or no-one can send them messages. However users of all ages can "friend" each other, and can chat with each other. However, as @garnetluvcookie mentioned, Roblox has a very strict filter so that shouldn't too much of a worry.
TheTrillion's Profile Picture.png  TheTrillion • Talk • 2,606 contributions • Scratch  00:28, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
Just a correction. You can chat privately even if you're under 13 on Roblox. Anyways it looks like that mentioning Roblox usernames on Scratch is allowed since the filter is very very strict (basically censoring everything that is not in the dictionary and bad words I guess) so I'll mark this as resolved.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   06:14, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Next TT

Yes Resolved (since an unknown date)

When will be next Thankful Thursday?
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 10:47, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

According to this, the next TT should've been on December 23rd of last year. I guess jakel181 isn't active to post it (although I'm not sure if any EW/admin can post a TT).
Wangat logo.png wangat talkcontribsprofile 14:54, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
ok
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 08:12, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
I think its time for someone to take over the Thankful Thursday job while Jakel181 is not here. It should be a collaboration effort between multiple people with each one hosting a new one each time. It will give a sense of community and will also boost the Thankful part of this.
LokiBlaster-Icon.png LokiBlaster | Talk Page | Contributions 16:12, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
I think that's a good idea, but Jakel181 should be asked first.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 17:10, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Encourage users to capitalise the word 'Scratch'

Yes Resolved (since an unknown date)

I have seen several users (mostly newer ones) not capitalising the word 'Scratch' frequently. Although capitalising it comes under using proper spelling, grammar and capitalisation in guidelines, I am suggesting that somewhere on the wiki states that capitalising 'Scratch' is encouraged or emphasised.

The only problem I can think of my suggestion is that is could be considered assisting users making account requests if put in somewhere like the guidelines or account request instructions. Apart from those places, would it be possible to put in the Scratch article that is it spelt with a capital S?

(Despite me being an EW, I think this suggestion needs some feedback from other users)
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 09:11, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, support. Although, it should be self explanatory, as in the English language, all proper nouns are supposed to be capitalized (also since Wiki editors should have a good sense of the English language). "Scratch" is, in this case, describing a certain programming language, so it should be capitalized. I don't think it's necessary for us to put a notice in the Scratch article specifically about this, because I doubt that a. article readers will really care, and b. Wiki editors should know this.
Wangat logo.png wangat talkcontribsprofile 22:15, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
I somehow missed that topic in the CP but I definitely agree. I think that putting it to S:PRO would make sense rather than an article, and I will edit that page now.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
17:46, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

April Featured Images

Yes Resolved (since 19:05, 2 April 2022 (UTC))

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for April. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many... :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 04:55, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

How about this-

File:Tutorial library.png
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile

How about this?
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 17:52, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
This??
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 14:42, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
Yes Updated. I decided to do a sort of "special edition" of the Featured Images this month and showcased three interesting April Fools' jokes from past years on Scratch. That said, I'll reply to my new topic with File:Forever behavior.png and File:Tutorial in project.png so that they are considered next month. (Vdiu: that image was already featured in July 2019. :))
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:05, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

{{DISPLAYTITLE}}

Yes Resolved (since an unknown date)

Hi, on some pages, like my April Fools Userpage and My Sandbox, using '{{DISPLAYTITLE:''pagename''}}' doesn't work and title remains the same a the link. Can someone tell me why this happens?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile

The text in DISPLAYTITLE must be the same as the original page name. On your April Fools page, you tried to make the title say "Evil User:Vdiu", which is different than "Scratch Wiki:April Fools/Vdiu".
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 16:42, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
Oh. So DISPLAYTITLE can only be used to format the original title?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile

Part 4 of the welcome tutorial says there is a "Comment" tab while it's really called "New topic"

Yes Resolved (since 03:15, 25 March 2022 (UTC))

This really confused me at first, and since I don't have editing rights on that page, I can't fix it. Here's what it says: "If you're not responding to someone else, but are posting about something new, use the "Comment" tab at the top of the talk page to create a new section, which automatically goes at the bottom of the page." I propose "Comment" be switched with "New topic" to help new wikians such as myself.
NFlex23's wiki icon.png NFlex23 (Talk106 ContribsScratch) 22:11, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

I fixed this and also reworded it to be more clear. Thanks for pointing out this mistake! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 03:15, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki Humor Category

Yes Resolved (since 18:39, 29 March 2022 (UTC))

I want to create a category called Category:Scratch Wiki Humor, which will list all of the humorous pages and files I can find. Is that OK?
EddyTheFox12 (talk | contribs) 11:27, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Please do not do this. Content on the Wiki needs to be serious, the only exceptions are April Fools pages and one small easter egg. Humorous images are only applicable in userspace or for April Fools' pages, both of which already have their own categories, and similarly for pages userpages don't have their own categories and April Fools' pages already have their own category.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Well, that makes sense.
EddyTheFox12 (talk | contribs) 18:39, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

May Featured Images

Yes Resolved (since 18:41, 1 May 2022 (UTC))

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for May. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many... :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:06, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

File:Cloud_Variable_Creation.png,File:Variable_Monitors.png,File:Comment_3.0.PNG,:File:VectorTools.png are my suggestions.
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 20:15, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
In March, File:Forever behavior.png was suggested by CrazyBoy826 and File:Tutorial in project.png was suggested by Purvitekriwal. I decided to do a "special edition" of the Featured Images in April with different April Fools' Day images from past years. As such, I didn't use these suggestions, but I think they both could be good for May. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:08, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
I will try and find some good ones
Adzboy (talk | contribs) 19:18, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
What about File:3.0 Sound Editor.png?
Adzboy (talk | contribs) 19:20, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Yes Updated
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 18:41, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Dark mode visual editor problem

Yes Resolved (since 17:10, 3 April 2022 (UTC))

Yes Done Gonna post this as well as in the forums, because the portal in the forums has too much spam. So anyway, using the dark mode theme and the visual editor makes some text un-readable. Since I'm not experienced with posting images here, I will link my forum post with a screenshot in it. Forum topic
-gr (talk | contribs) 23:59, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for finding an issue, but this was already mentioned in #The_Wiki_now_has_(beta)_dark_theme!
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 00:10, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks.
-gr (talk | contribs) 17:10, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Impossible to preview scratch blocks syntax

Yes Resolved (since April 2022)

It is impossible to preview scratch blocks syntax. For example, when I edit the page, I do not see scratch blocks turned into scratch blocks.

when gf clicked

All I see is "when gf clicked" until I exit editing mode. I just see raw syntax.
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 00:44, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I believe this has been brought up previously and, as far as I can tell it can be fixed by having the page refresh when you enter preview mode. The option to have the page refresh when entering preview mode can be found in your preferences at the bottom of the "Edit" section.
Adzboy (talk | contribs) 06:48, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
Known
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:31, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Pages to Create

Yes Resolved (since 07:27, 6 April 2022 (UTC))

I try and create pages that will help everyone, but all of mine keep getting deleted because the Wiki does not need the pages I need. Are there any pages that need creating?
Helloheart (talk | contribs) 01:17, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Take a look around, if you think there are any large blank gaps then feel free to create a page to fill them. Make sure the title is grammatically correct and you follow the Wiki editing guidelines.
Adzboy (talk | contribs) 07:27, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Is it possible to use Wikimedia Commons images?

Yes Resolved (since 16:12, 8 April 2022 (UTC))


Is it possible to use Wikimedia Commons images? Or should I reupload them to the scratch wiki?
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 15:59, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

They need to be reuploaded. However, (with a few exceptions) WM Commons images are licensed under CC licenses so you can upload them here with appropriate credit given to the original uploader.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:12, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Scratch blocks in wiki?

Yes Resolved (since 12:36, 9 April 2022 (UTC))

Hello im new, I just wonder how to put scratch blocks in a wiki topic?
RandomCocconut (talk | contribs) 12:30, 9 April 2022 (UTC))

You can find an article on it here
Adzboy (talk | contribs) 12:36, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Small question

Yes Resolved (since 01:43, 11 April 2022 (UTC))

As we can use html, can I use website widgets in my profile page?
RandomCocconut (talk | contribs) 18:41, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

I doubt it, but I think if it were a whitelisted domain, it would be fine... Get more confirmation from a staff though.
-unsigned comment by 12944qwerty (talk | contribs)
You can only use a limited subset of HTML. My guess is that the widget you want to use requires a <img /> or <iframe /> tag, neither of which is available in MediaWiki.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:43, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Correct name for new article

Yes Resolved (since 22:04, 11 April 2022 (UTC))

I'm thinking about making a article about workarounds for rejected blocks. What should it be called?
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 18:41, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

I don't think an article is needed specifically for this purpose. We can just as easily add a section or a small paragraph for each rejected block.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:22, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
The already existing article about block workarounds is the best option. Don't create a new article.
Dhuls's Wiki Icon.png Dhuls (Talk|889 Contributions|Scratch) 21:24, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
We already have that here. However please make sure only to put the most commonly suggested ideas.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:04, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

A postmortem on the censor outage

Yes Resolved (since 21:28, 13 April 2022 (UTC))

Hi everyone,

As many of you are aware, there was an outage in the censor yesterday allowing people to post inappropriate comments and create inappropriate accounts. I just wanted to share my thoughts related to the Wiki on it (I have plenty of other thoughts as to what happened within the Scratch community and the Scratch Team's response, but that's for another time and place). Also, these generally represent my own thoughts and necessarily official policy.

First, in terms of when we documented this: I and the other EW+ didn't make any sort of public announcement, but as soon as I saw this was happening I started keeping a close eye on recent changes since I didn't us want to publicize a glitch that had a major potential (and actual) impact, as this likely would have led to people either trying to "test" the filter, or worse, actively abusing it and posting inappropriate comments. However once the Scratch Team had undertaken the appropriate mitigations until they could fix it (i.e. disabling comments) I created the article since there was no longer potential for abuse, and a section was independently added to the Censor article around the same time by another editor. In terms of this I think we handled the situation pretty well, and going forwards should follow a similar policy: don't document safety/security issues where it is obvious how to abuse them until appropriate mitigations are in place (this is unofficial Wiki policy and I think we should consider making this official).

Second, in terms of how we documented this: we did the best with what we had. Of course, the Scratch Team deleted a number of forum posts for various reasons (again, I am not commenting on that), so in my edits I made sure to include the relevant quote when referencing these forum posts and I saw other editors did the same thing. Going forwards, if a forum post seems likely to be deleted, please make sure to include the actual quote and not just the link. Again, everyone did a pretty good job of this.

Third, in terms of creating a separate article: I think for rapidly unfolding events (only other one I can think of in recent memory is the Question Mark Glitch), as kenny2scratch stated on the talk page, we should generally make them their own page at the time and then once the dust has settled consider whether or not they should remain their own articles. This keeps the inevitable disruption caused by a large number of edits in quick succession by many editors as more information becomes available limited to one article and avoids disruption to other articles. For now it's its own article, but the dust seems mostly to have settled so if you have thoughts as to whether or not it should remain its own article or just be a section in Censor, please explain your thoughts the talk page.

Finally, a new template was created by ahmetlii: {{Current}}. This can be used to indicate rapidly unfolding events. I don't think it will be used that much (there are very few cases of "breaking news" on Scratch) but it's good to have around and we should use that in any future situations where new information is constantly coming to light or the situation could easily change at a moment's notice.

So, in all, I think we as a community handled the situation pretty well on the Wiki. Thank you everyone who helped out, and if more information becomes available please add it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:28, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

I agree on your first point, it is probably a good idea to refrain from documenting safety/security issues where it is obvious how to abuse them as that could encourage users to come close to or break the community guidelines which could get them banned and/or cause a security/privacy issue.
Adzboy (talk | contribs) 19:50, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
I have made some changes to wordings of the template in my sandbox. If it is ok can you add the same there as well(just the changed words as I changed a bit of code by mistake as well.
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 12:50, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Possibly add a magic word for last update if that's possible.
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 19:47, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Tutorial box on dark theme is hard to read

Yes Resolved (since 06:08, 22 August 2022 (UTC))

I think the tutorial box is hard to read on dark theme because it is gray-on-white. See my image: Screenshot 2022-04-14 9.34.23 AM.png I would like to see it either:

  • The tutorial box is darker, OR
  • The text is darker.

Just something to consider about dark theme :-)
Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) | contribs (711) | directory 13:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

I have noticed this problem too
Adzboy (talk | contribs) 17:08, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Yes Done I forced the text color to change so it's more readable now. Marked as resolved.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   06:08, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Any way to contact a Scratch Wiki administrator privately?

Yes Resolved (since 22:04, 14 April 2022 (UTC))

I'd like a revision of my userpage to be deleted. PPL Icon.gif ♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 21:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

A report option does exist for revisions of pages, you could use that.
Dhuls's Wiki Icon.png Dhuls (Talk|889 Contributions|Scratch) 21:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Yes, in this case please report the revision you want deleted. You can find the report button by opening the diff.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:04, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

scratch is down!

Yes Resolved (since 21:46, 19 April 2022 (UTC))

i assume it was something to do with the userbar. but i dont actually know. its in maintenance mode.
Mrrecordman (talk | contribs) 15:40, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

there was some really weird topic on the forum that said scratch should shut down becuase of low security (dont quote me)
Xenon-dev-group (talk | contribs) 15:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
i had no idea. also i editid some of yourpost to fix a spelling error.
Mrrecordman (talk | contribs) 15:55, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Does this need to be on the CP? It doesn't seem like a big enough event to make an article for.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 15:58, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Mrrecordman please don't edit other people's posts. I have changed it back to what it was before.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 16:02, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
but i cant talk on scratch or access it
Xenon-dev-group (talk | contribs) 16:19, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
Maintenance Mode doesn't mention any specific events other than the page being updated, so this is probably too minor to be mentioned (unless it goes on for longer).
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 16:39, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Uh, scratch is no longer down, I can access it!
GAMS2 (talk | contribs) 16:50, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Scratch Outage on 19 April 2022 was already created. it could be merged with maintenance Mode.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 16:55, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
In the past we haven't created articles on site outages. If there were a very large scale one (like a day or more) or it otherwise had a major impact it may be worth creating one in that case, but since this outage was only a few hours and didn't really cause any major upheaval, I don't think it's worth documenting. For some comparison, the reason the filterbot outage was documented was because it did have a major impact considering the amount of inappropriate usernames and comments and such that came in a short amount of time.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:46, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Is it fine to add in a post not from a ST member?

Yes Resolved (since an unknown date)

I'm a new editor so I'm still getting to know the Scratch Wiki. I have gone through the Welcome tutorial already. I saw an article about variables and a section had a "citation needed" footnote. I searched for a reference and I spotted a forum post that proved the point. However, it wasn't by a Scratch Team member. Would it be okay to link it or do I need a more reliable source? https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/993562/ is the post. Thanks! (Sorry if I made this too long!)


Ham19-01-2011 (talk | contribs) 09:46, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

It's fine to cite a post by a non Scratch Team member.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 14:28, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll keep that in mind!
Ham19-01-2011 (talk | contribs) 09:56, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
There is actually no limit.
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 13:56, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Should I create this article?

Yes Resolved (since an unknown date)

I was thinking of creating an article about the blurry block glitch. I read the guidelines for creating an article and it said that you should only create a new article about a bug or glitch if it was extremely prominent. Additionally, it also mentioned that it should be a section in the article of the feature if it was not prominent. I am not entirely sure if this is prominent, or if I should include this in the "blocks" page or not.
Ham19-01-2011 (talk | contribs) 17:48, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

There was a section about it in the Scratch Bugs article, but it was removed. There's a discussion about readding it here.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 20:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

How to link to a category

Yes Resolved (since 22:24, 25 April 2022 (UTC))

Im working on a post here about categories and I need to refrance specific categories. How can I link to a category without categorizing the page?
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 18:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

[[:Category:<category name>]] (add a colon before "Category".)
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 22:24, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Should we remove the current front page curator from the list of future ones?

Yes Resolved (since 17:14, 30 April 2022 (UTC))

In this article: List of front page curators, the current front page curator(FollowCherryBlossom) is mentioned in the 'Current Front Page Curator' section, as well as the 'Future Front Page Curators' section. As they are no longer going to be curator in the future, should they be removed from that section?
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 15:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I think so.
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 08:11, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
Yes Done I updated the list. The current curator should not be listed on the future curator page.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 17:14, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

June Featured Images

Yes Resolved (since 02:42, 4 June 2022 (UTC))

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for June. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many... :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 18:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

I'll have a look around and see if there's any good ones.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 19:06, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
What about File:ScratchCatJr.png?
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 19:13, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
How about File:Name_Bar.png? Or File:SeeInsideButton.png?
caption kccuber(talk:: operators)(userpage:: extension)(scratch:: sensing)(contribs:: motion) 02:29, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Yes Updated
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:42, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Oh no

I accidentally remove to much on the April fools page for costume, when I was just trying to remove a template. Please revert this.
Petaldancer66 (talk | contribs)

I fixed the edit. To undo an edit, you can go to the page history and click "undo".
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 23:36, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
As CrazyBoy826 stated. You can revert edits by going to edit history for that page and selecting "Undo" on the edit you want to revert.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 07:06, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

No talk page

Yes Resolved (since 04:14, 7 May 2022 (UTC))

Why is there no talk page on the page Scrolling_with_Listswhen there is the stub template?
Bluepig600 Logo.gif Bluepig600(Talk - Contributes) 03:34, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Articles may not have talk pages because no one has started a discussion yet. If a talk page does not exist, feel free to create it.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 04:14, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
Okay thank you.
Bluepig600 Logo.gif Bluepig600(Talk - Contributes) 21:20, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Can I put in Consider Collabs?

Yes Resolved (since an unknown date)

May I add in some stuff to the List of Controversial Topics on Scratch related to TurboWarp noticing that the Scratch Team may or may not fix the unshared projects bug, and that campaign I created to stop it (aka Consider Collabs), or does that count as self-promo? It's beginning to take off with over 1000+ views in one day.
Minikiwigeek2 (talk | contribs) 15:42, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

You are proberbly OK to write sections not about your movement, but for your movement, have someone else write it or at least check over it.
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 15:50, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Personally, I think that the section should be about the unshared project bug fix in general. I don't think that one topic, even one that's that popular, is notable enough for its own section.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 16:57, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
Alright everyone, thanks for the help! i actually put in the section before all of you replied, so ill adjust things accordingly.
Minikiwigeek2 (talk | contribs) 17:46, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
So I removed the considercollabs bit and just made it in general.
-unsigned comment by Minikiwigeek2 (talk | contribs)

Respect my privacy

I've "quit" scratch per say, and I haven't been active here since mid-to-late 2019 and I've completely moved to YouTube. The problem is that my Minecraft account shares the same name as my Scratch one, so if somebody Googles old Minecraft name (that I will change), they will see my old stuff that I find embarrassing. I would like if you:

  1. Removed my Wiki stuff from search engine results
  2. Reverted all of my edits
  3. Change my name to "Deleted User" on the wiki
  4. Remove my user & talk pages
  5. Remove all mentions of me from the site

Thank you.
Wfd7logo.png Whatsfordinner77|💬Talk|🔧Contribs|🐱Scratch 06:23, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

As far as I know, it might be impossible to remove almost everything about you on this wiki, and username renames here can only be done if the corresponding Scratch account has had its name changed on Scratch by the Scratch Team (under very limited circumstances, which I do not think can be done for your case)
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:29, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you find your time here embarrassing. However, let me show you why each of your requests are at least somewhat impossible:
  1. In general, we do not control search engine results. It is possible to exclude specific pages from search engine indexing by using the __NOINDEX__ magic word on each page; if you want to do that to your userpages, you can, but we will not allow you to put it on every page you've ever edited, as it is in the Wiki's interest that they are indexed.
  2. Your edits are contributions to the corpus of knowledge that is the Wiki. Reverting all of them would be widely destructive and therefore tantamount to vandalism.
  3. Wiki username changes reflect main-site username changes. Unless the Scratch Team changes your Scratch username to "Deleted_User", this will not happen. (That username is also too generic, especially since account deletion does exist on Scratch.)
  4. You can place a {{delete}} on your userpage if it matters that much. However, deleting or blanking your user talk page would be a violation of userspace of all the people who have posts on it; unless in the latter case you archive the blanked topics somewhere, but that would defeat your purpose.
  5. "All mentions" can be interpreted in increasingly extreme ways, but assuming you mean remove your name from both page content and history, that is much the same as "revert all of [your] edits" and is impossible for the same reasons.
Side note: If EU/UK law applies to you and you wish to exercise your GDPR right to account deletion, you can find contact info for that purpose in our Privacy Policy. However, note that even in that case, the content of your edits (which may include your name) cannot be removed as it is protected under a reuse-permitted license; all we can do is scrub you from the metadata.
This is how it's been for pretty much ever, minus some small developments (renaming users is new). Sorry there isn't really much more we can do.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:59, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Installing the Math extension?

Yes Resolved (since 16:17, 17 June 2022 (UTC))

I think the Math Extension would be very helpful for displaying formulas, Especially for complex formulas. It allows math formulas to be displayed like written out on paper, not using the condensed-onto-one-line notation.
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 19:40, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Could you please give a few examples of articles where this would be useful?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:08, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
How_to_Use_Complex_Numbers_in_Scratch, List_of_Mathematical_Functions_Done_in_Scratch, Trigonometry, Using_Vectors, and many more pages in Category:Math Tutorials
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 22:12, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
I'm installing this on the staging wiki to see if it will work ok with SWS and our custom extensions.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:19, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
Good idea
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 20:54, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
After some testing on my local installation and staging to make sure it doesn't interfere with the skin or any other extensions, I have confirmed that this works. The math extension is now installed, and you can see an example in my sandbox. Please let me know if you have any issues.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:17, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
Cool!
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 17:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

English privacy policy

Currently, the wiki's privacy policy is in German, which is great for people who speak German!
Unfortunately, I, along with many other people, don't speak German well, if at all. As a result of this, I'm proposing that we translate, for informational purposes, the privacy policy to English (and other languages) for non-German speakers. Where there is translation discrepancy/contradiction in a court of law, the German version shall govern, and as a result it will remain legally binding (and I would suggest such a disclaimer that goes along the lines of "The German version is legally binding. Any translations into other languages are for informational purposes only, and in the event of a conflict between the German version and the version in any other language, solely the text of the German version shall govern."). I'm sure a party will disclose that non-German speaking users can use Google translate to translate the policy but it's far from perfect (I would add more examples but the ones I did find were somewhat profane), and meaning gets drastically lost, and in a more severe manner than translation (to the point where, possibly, the entire document differs entirely to the original).
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,234)) 17:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that would definitely be useful. I also can't speak German, only English and a bit of a few other languages so this would be useful.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 19:30, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
i cant speak german. i only speak english. so this would definutley be useful
Mrrecordman (talk | contribs) 09:13, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Here's a Scratch Wiki Example Project!

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/698249757

Here is a project that you can use in example images without giving credit. Enjoy!


Minikiwigeek2 (talk | contribs) 23:50, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Good idea, but I think we already have one.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 00:32, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
Aww...
Minikiwigeek2 (talk | contribs) 00:37, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

How do I center files?

Hi! So, I am creating my user page, and I am trying to upload my Scratch profile picture to my user page. I figured it out, and the wonderful wiki let me put my profile picture there! =D Then, I noticed it was a little to the right. I saved my changes to my user page so you could see what I mean. Can someone please tell me how to center it? Whoever's helping me has permission to edit my user page so they can center it for me. :) Thanks and have a wonderful day! :D
MadelynGH (talk | contribs) 22:16, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

I've centred it for you. Feel free to change it or undo the edit if you want to. You can look in the edit history to see what I did.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 10:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
It works like this:[[File:Gobo.svg|center]] will output
Gobo.svg

Hope this helps!
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   09:16, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

July Featured Images

Yes Resolved (since 22:36, 1 July 2022 (UTC))

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for July. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many... :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:43, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

How about File:Scratch 3.0 Project Page.png?
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 17:58, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Yes Updated. @CrazyBoy826—unfortunately, that image has already been featured in the past. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 22:36, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

ScratchBlocks4 - how to add Russian blocks

I administer educational wiki site digida.mgpu.ru and try to use ScratchBlocks4 extension for my students. It work nicely, but only in English. When I try to add $wgScratchBlocks4Langs = ['Ru', 'rus']; it doesn't work - may be i must use different letters. Thank you!

There is source of my knowledge how to use ScratchBlocks https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki/mw-ScratchBlocks4


Patarakin (talk | contribs) 06:48, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@Patarakin: Did you try $wgScratchBlocks4Langs = ['ru'];, rather than writing it with a capital letter? It should work.
Note that you probably also need to translate the block syntax from English to Russian in case it doesn't work (because it will not be directly translated by the software from what I know. This tool is handy for translation.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
07:16, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
@Ahmetlii - thanks a lot! It really help me
Patarakin (talk | contribs) 12:57, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Unresolved and Resolved

 Unresolved (see all...)

Lots of people forget to put the {{unresolved}} template when they make a new post. I suggest that the unresolved template should be put automatically when a user makes a new post. Edit- I forgot to put the template too XD
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile

I believe there's no way to implement that without a bot. I am concerned that there would be many edgecases that the bot would have to handle, but it's not impossible. Whether it would benefit the wiki enough is open to discussion.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
23:39, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
PS: Don't remove time while signing the post.
I don't think this is a task worth automating for the reasons ahmetlii said. As the person who would likely be implementing and maintaining this, I am concerned about all the possible ways this could fail with minimal benefit to the Wiki.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:37, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Custom Signature

Yes Resolved (since 18:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC))

The Custom Signatures article is confusing and hard to understand. Can I make a simplified version (with only the major points) titled as 'Scratch Wiki:Custom Signatures (Simplified)'?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:45, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

All the rules are there for a reason, and having a simplified version would both have the rules in two different places (meaning they may conflict with each other) and may miss important rules. What part of it is unclear to you?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:36, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Right now the article has lots of text which is not part of the tutorial. Also, it is written without line gaps in between so it looks very cramped. It was so cramped that I even missed a point while creating my sig.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 02:39, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
That page is more than just a tutorial, it is also a list of rules and an explanation of custom signatures. It is also standard practice to list in bullet points like that. Ultimately contributing to the Wiki requires reading and understanding the rules.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
Ok.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 10:21, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

August Featured Images

Yes Resolved (since 23:26, 2 August 2022 (UTC))

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for August. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many... :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 22:36, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

How about advanced colour palette?
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 08:02, 3 July 2022 (UTC)
How about File:A studio.png?
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 03:43, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
How about File:Scratch 14Feb04.png?
link:User:Starhero5697 Starhero5697 Talk 227 Contributions and counting Scratch Profile 05:09, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
How about File:Movement.png or File:Editing A Post.PNG?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 02:05, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Yes Updated
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 23:26, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Outdated Featured Image

Yes Resolved (since 17:33, 12 July 2022 (UTC))

The last image on the Featured Images tab is an outdated version of the variable readouts. It has a small slider as in the slider readout in 2020, but it has been updated to another design, like in this picture. I hope someone can replace the old variable readouts file with the new one above. Updated variable readouts.png
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   01:14, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

You're right. I've sent a message to Jammum on his talk page.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 05:11, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
The design of the slider depends on the browser, not Scratch: it looked like that in Firefox on Windows before the Proton redesign. Even though it's technically outdated, I don't think it's necessary to replace the image because it isn't an intentional change made by the Scratch Team.
Maximouse (talk | contribs) 15:36, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Maybe, it might be beneficial to replace it though as it seems like most people have it like File:Updated variable readouts.png rather than the other one. Then again, maybe not
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 15:59, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Although the appearance of the slider depends on which browser you're using, jvvg and I checked the latest versions of Chrome, Firefox, Edge, and Safari, and they all seem to show circles (albeit different-looking circles). So, we decided to change the image. Thank you for pointing this out! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 17:33, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

How do you update a image?

Yes Resolved (since 05:29, 13 July 2022 (UTC))

File:Variable_readouts.png should be merged with File:Updated_variable_readouts.png . The old image is outdated. It's a previous version.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 06:06, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Just upload the new one to the old one and place the delete template on the new one. There is no merge function that I know of. Also, please use internal links when linking to files eg: File:UserIconAdzboy.png
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 06:17, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
But I can't overwrite that file. I guess it's protected from overwriting because it's featured ig
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   07:11, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Correct, you will have to wait for it to be unprotected on the 1st of August.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 14:53, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Right, but what matters more is that the featured image is outdated...
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 16:17, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
Looks like bigpuppy did it :)
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 05:29, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Forum Bug: Timestamp and user not showing in the "last post" section

Yes Resolved (since 04:50, 13 July 2022 (UTC))

A recent bug was found on the discuss forums that the date, time, and the last user who posted on a topic is not showing. Here's the detailed forum topic: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/617118/ Should we create an article about this?
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   03:18, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

I've seen it come up every once in a while in the past. I don't think it's a notable enough bug for its own article (happens very rarely, impact is very minor, and doesn't otherwise play any significant role in Scratch culture). It may deserve a mention in another article, but even if it does, it would just be something very brief.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:20, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the notice. I'll mark this as resolved then.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   04:50, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Password

Yes Resolved (since 16:12, 15 July 2022 (UTC))

I've forgotten my wiki account password. How do I retrieve it?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 10:48, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

If you have given your email address you can use it for a password reset.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 14:56, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Alternatively, you can use Special:ScratchPasswordReset.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:29, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Rate limiter for New Wikians is now live

Hi everyone,

In order to reduce the potential for vandalism, I have built a new extension for the Wiki that allows rate-limiting page edits and moves. As of right now, the only limit is that New Wikians are limited to one edit per 180 seconds. Please let me know if there are any issues or if anyone is limited when they aren't supposed to be.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:49, 18 July 2022 (UTC)

This could possibly be good to avoid vandalism. Thanks for creating this!
link:User:Starhero5697 Starhero5697 Talk 227 Contributions and counting Scratch Profile 19:37, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
I saw this a few hours ago. Good to see it's running now.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 20:17, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
Nice feature! This will be a great helper with finding and blocking vandals in time. However, if a user has vandalized once (or twice), we can increase this limit to 1 edit per 5 minutes.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   05:27, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
Nice idea!
CZ2746NE (talk | contribs) 13:03, 19 July 2022 (UTC)

How do I link to category pages?

Yes Resolved (since 05:49, 20 July 2022 (UTC))

When you use [[Category:Foo]] on a page, it only adds that page to the category "Foo" instead of linking to the page. Are there any methods to link to a category page without adding the page to the category? Because I've been working on my welcome template and want it to link to a category of pages with ref/syntax errors and stub pages.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   02:33, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Place a colon before the word category. For example: Category:Scratch Culture
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 05:15, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! :D
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   05:49, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Protection

Yes Resolved (since 16:15, 26 July 2022 (UTC))

Template:E is protected but its documentation is not. Can an Experienced Wikian please protect it? If anyone vandalizes the documentation the Template is practically useless.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 16:12, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:15, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Who can edit Special pages?

Yes Resolved (since since 13:56, 27 July 2022 (UTC))

Also, if special pages can be edited, is anyone allowed to add anything to them?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 16:30, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Special pages can't be edited like regular pages. Their contents are defined in code. Most of them are pages that come in the MediaWiki core, but some of them come as part of extensions (for example, Special:RequestAccount, with the code defined here). For those the only way to "edit" them is to change the code of the extension. The one thing that can be edited for special pages on the Wiki is the text, where users with permission to edit interface text (I believe currently administrators and bureaucrats) can edit them.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:37, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Oh. Ok, but are you allowed to ask admins/bureaucrats to edit your contribs page? Would they be allowed to add anything to that?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 15:57, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
We cannot edit a contribs page, other than the interface text (which would change it for everyone) and censoring revisions, which we only do if they violate the guidelines.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:14, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Is there anyway to make sure the link address doesn't preview?

Yes Resolved (since 11:42, 1 August 2022 (UTC))

Like if I want to send someone to a rickroll page, but there is the name 'RickRoll' in the page, is there anyway to hide it?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 15:26, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Do you mean hiding via Wikitext? Here is a workaround for that: [[Rickroll|Definitely Not A Rickroll]] The output is: Definitely Not A Rickroll
However, if the registered user has link preview enabled there's no way for hiding additional info obtained via previewing. You can use a workaround via Template:Plain link, i.e. just put the HTTPS link on browser so they can't preview that.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
16:58, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
No, I mean hiding the link toggle. Eg, when you link to Definitely Not A Rickroll and hover over the link, you see that the URL says https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Rickroll. My question is, is there any way to hide that?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:38, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Maybe you can create another page with this: #REDIRECT [[yt:dQw4w9WgXcQ]] and then link to that page. Remember to create it under your userspace :)
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   13:33, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Ok. That works. Thanks!
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 11:42, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Am I aloud to make a Wiki about my comic?

So I have a comic (Based of Warrior Cats) and I would like to make a Wiki about some of the characters and what is the comic about. Am I aloud to do that?
-unsigned comment by Xy_- (talk | contribs)

This would fall under user-generated content (any content about content created by Scratch users), and would be deleted if a page is created about it. However, you can put content about it in your userspace (which is any page starting with User:your username then a forward slash), where it is not part of the actual wiki.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 08:37, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Yes, you could do that, but you will have to make it under your userspace. So your link will be 'User:Xy_-/[Name of your comic]/[name of the page]'.Eg, User:Xy_-/Warrior Cats/Main Character
Note Note: Remember to sign your posts with four tildes(~~~~)in the future :)

SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:47, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Certain Users do not have a userpage

Yes Resolved (since 10:25, 30 July 2022 (UTC))

Why? One example is User Xy_- (talk | contribs). His userpage-link is a redlink but he has a talk page and a contribs page.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:50, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

User pages are not automatically created when a user joins, unlike talk pages (the contributions pages are automatically updated). Users whose userpages are red links (do not exist) have not decided to create one yet.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 13:44, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Ok. One more question on the same topic- Is having a userpage mandatory?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 13:53, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
No, having a userpage is not mandatory.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:28, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

How do you round to the nearest year?

Yes Resolved (since 14:09, 30 July 2022 (UTC))

How do you round to a year? Suppose I want to have the count for how many years I've been on scratch.
If I use {{#expr:{{CURRENTYEAR}} - 2020}}, it shows the year count as 2 regardless of the month count. If the month count is 1, it will shows 2. That is well and good but if the month count is 11, it still shows 2. Is there any way to round this so if the month count is 6 or above it shows 3?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 10:51, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

There's a way. Do {{#expr:{{CURRENTYEAR}} - 2020{{#ifexpr:{{CURRENTMONTH1}}>5|+1|}}}} and you get 3.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   13:42, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks!
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 14:09, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

Am I allowed to make a April Fools signature?

Yes Resolved (since 11:43, 1 August 2022 (UTC))


SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 02:50, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

By 'April Fools' signature, do you mean a fake version of your signature for AF pages, a variant of your signature that only shows on either AF pages or April 1st or something else related to your signature and April Fools?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 09:23, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
I will assume it is allowed because the list of disallowed April Fools pages doesn't include pages which are signatures, but I might be wrong.
link:User:Starhero5697 Starhero5697 Talk 227 Contributions and counting Scratch Profile 11:25, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
@Jammum, I mean my signature turning into a April Fools version on april 1st.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 14:05, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
There is no official rule yet, but I would recommend against it, in case April Fools signatures could confuse users, be considered unnecessary (as it would only be used for one day) and signature guidelines might have to be violated to convey jokes.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:43, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Ok.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 11:43, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Add Smirk Emoji to Template E

Yes Resolved (since 15:47, 1 August 2022 (UTC))

This is the link to the Smirk template I made- User:Vdiu/Template:Smirk
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:15, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

The emojis in that template are Scratch emojis and BBCode emojis in the forums only. There is no Smirk Emoji on Scratch and the forums, so this probably wouldn't be added.
link:User:Starhero5697 Starhero5697 Talk 227 Contributions and counting Scratch Profile 12:24, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Yeah, in general we only add emojis from Scratch.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:47, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

New Wikian Status

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If you look at your user rights, you see 'New Wikian' and then your true status. This is true for wangat as well, even though he is a EW. Why does this happen?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 15:34, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

This is because the Wikian status is dynamically applied when checking permissions. See Scratch Wiki:Wikians#Number in Group for a bit more info.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:47, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Updating file to different format

Yes Resolved (since 02:29, 3 August 2022 (UTC))

I want to update File:VdiuLogo.svg to File:VdiuLogo.png but it won't let me because the file format is different. Is there a way to update a file to a different format?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 16:44, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

You need to create a new file and make sure the image you're uploading is a format that matches the file extension.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:48, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
Well, never mind. I converted it to svg and used it.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 02:28, 3 August 2022 (UTC)

My Sig

Yes Resolved (since 03:50, 14 August 2022 (UTC))

All of a sudden, my sig has started showing the timestamp below the real sig, like
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile10:57, 10 August 2022 (UTC) instead of showing the timestamp next to the sig. If this is any help- this started only after I used Bigpuppy's Custom Signature Wizard out of curiosity. Till then, I will use the scratchsig, but I really need someone's help to find out the glitch.
Vdiu (talk | contribs) 10:57, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

My custom signature wizard doesn't alter the code of your signature at all, it just uses parser functions to check for certain source code in your signature. As such, it would not cause something like this.
It looks like your issue began when you made this edit to your signature. In the latest revision of the signature, you can fix it by replacing <div style=font-family: Georgia !important;> and the associated </div> with <span style=font-family: Georgia !important;> and </span>. However, I recommend that you additionally add quotes around font-family: Georgia !important; (to make <span style="font-family: Georgia !important;">) so that the font works.
You can see what the final code would be at User:Bigpuppy/Sandbox 4 (hit edit to see the code), as well as a demonstration of the signature with the timestamp at User:Bigpuppy/Sandbox 5.
Hope that helps! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 15:53, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, it worked! Sorry for assuming your amazing Custom Signature Wizard was the problem.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 13:56, 13 August 2022 (UTC)

Doc Error

Yes Resolved (since 12:00, 28 August 2022 (UTC))

Usually, in template documentations, a box extends from the start of the doc to the end. However, in my Personal Welcome template the doc-box only extends till the first example. Why is this happening?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 13:45, 15 August 2022 (UTC)

I experimented with the contents of your page in my sandbox to find the cause of the problem. I noticed that you might have an extra </div> tag (I removed it from the first example and the documentation box extends to the unmodified second example), so that is likely causing the problem with the documentation template.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:11, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
Nope, it didn't work. Also, I need it to go till the credits section.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 11:01, 16 August 2022 (UTC)
I realized that most templates have only 1 level-3 headers and yours have 3 of them. I suggest removing the level-3 headers and replace them with <hr/> tags to divide them or just keep one example. i know this sounds stupid but-
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   13:38, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Well, that didn't work but I fixed it by putting it in a expand thing.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:00, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

What do you do with discussions in the not done section which are done?

Yes Resolved (since 15:57, 17 August 2022 (UTC))

For example, Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Template:Timestamp was moved to Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Template:Timestamp, but now the discussion is done. Should it stay in the Not Done Community Portal or does it need to be moved to an archive?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 10:17, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Yes, it's usually archived by an EW whenever it's done (you might put a request at /Admin Requests just to ensure that they will surely notice it).
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
12:35, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
I mentioned on the Admin Requests subpage that it will be moved when a new Community Portal archive is created (which might be in the next few days or weeks).
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:37, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks!
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 15:57, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Is Thankful Thursday still going?

Yes Resolved (since 13:45, 25 August 2022 (UTC))

I have just added a comment to Thankful Thursday, only to look at the other thanks and notice that they go back to February of this year. Only two thanks have been from this month(one being mine). Before this, the last thank was in April. I was just wondering what has happened, is the user that posts them(jake I think) inactive, or has it just been forgotten about?
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 18:52, 18 August 2022 (UTC)

Yep, Jake was maintaining it, but he is inactive since a while. Would be good if any EW+ could take that, but just in case, I am willing to volunteer for maintaining it on a monthly and regular basis. It'd be good to set it at some fixed date as well, like last Thursday of the month (which is the 25th of this month).
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:45, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes it is. It is just that the owner has inactive for a while.
Aneri9714 Cat.png Áńéŕí9714 Talk Contributions Scratch Profile ‖ 05:40, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
OK, I've posted this month's TT. I hope we can declare it as "still going". :P
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
13:45, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Thank you for taking on this responsibility! Thankful Thursday has been a great contributor to positive energy on the Wiki, and the administrators are glad to see the tradition continue.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:46, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Issues with my sidebar.

Yes Resolved (since 17:14, 19 August 2022 (UTC))

Today I have been trying to remake my sidebar, but I have messed up and it doesn't work on any of the pages I use it on. The result is that all the pages lose their contents and appear on my sidebar. I have removed it from all of the pages that use it to avoid issues for now. I think I may have missed a div tag or something like that, hence the contents appearing on my sidebar. I have had a look for this but can't find anything. Does anyone know what I have missed? Here is a link to my sidebar.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 11:10, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

You have to close the div tags. Also, the slash in the closing tags goes before the tag name, bot after.
Look over here, I tested it for you.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 14:37, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
Thanks! I knew I'd missed something, I'll fix it now!
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 17:14, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

Help! I uploaded a file and something went wrong!

Yes Resolved (since 13:30, 29 August 2022 (UTC))

I uploaded a new version of File:2.0_Statistics.png, and, after clearing my cache, shows up fine on the file page, but does not show up properly on the page it's on (Scratch Statistics). What did I do wrong and how do I fix it?
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 01:57, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

It looks fine to me, could you send a screenshot?
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 13:40, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
Just purge it manually from For Editors box on the left. CTRL+F5 will not work as intended as the wiki's servers didn't update. (not sure about the last part but you got the idea)
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:22, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
It seems to be working now - thanks!
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 13:30, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

My signature had shown cached time.

Yes Resolved (since 08:16, 12 September 2022 (UTC))

Hi every-wikian. I had recently made a welcome here, and instead of the then current time (10:31) it showed 17:01 in my timestamp of my wiki siggy, but the date was same. Can I please get an solution?

Note Note: The siggy below may show cached time


Aneri9714 Cat.png Áńéŕí9714 Talk Contributions Scratch Profile ‖ 17:08, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

The Scratch Wiki stores timestamps on pages in UTC and not a user's local time because UTC is the standard time zone worldwide which other time zones are based on.
The time you posted it in your local time is visible in the page history, which dynamically shows a user's local timezone.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 17:44, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
Oh ok. but when I posted before, this never really happend to me.
Aneri9714 Cat.png Áńéŕí9714 Talk Contributions Scratch Profile ‖ 11:18, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
@Aneri9714: The time is correct per UTC, exactly matches with the revision timestamp. If you'd like to display it in your local time, however, you might just throw some time logic into your sig (see here for a detailed example) with magic words, and then signing messages with {{subst:your sig template}}
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:42, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Ok, let me try that in my sandbox first... (Oh god what is going to happen now)
Aneri9714 Cat.png Áńéŕí9714 Talk Contributions Scratch Profile ‖ 11:14, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
I think toggles to display local times for signature timestamps might be against signing rules or might trigger unexpected (and likely unfixable) WikiMonitor messages.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 12:39, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I've never had problems with signatures, but I have with the current time magic word blocks.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 12:48, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

How? Can you give me an solution?
Aneri9714 Cat.png Áńéŕí9714 Talk Contributions Scratch Profile ‖ 11:42, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
I've just done one. But as a sidenote, editing timestamp is discouraged yet currently unregulated under custom signature guidelines, so use it at your own risk.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
12:11, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
Then I will only use 3 tlides (and write my time manually) until my issue gets solved.
Aneri9714 Cat.png Áńéŕí9714 Talk Contributions Scratch Profile ‖ 11:14, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
I beleive five tildes shows just the timestamp.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 11:16, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
Not using a timestamp will likely trigger WikiMonitor notifications and writing the time manually will inaccurately represent when the message was written compared to other messages. Timestamps must be in UTC, which is the time of other Wiki messages.
I have also edited S:SIG to state all timestamps must be in UTC.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:00, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Ok, finally now this has been resolved.
Aneri9714 Cat.png Áńéŕí9714 Talk Contributions Scratch Profile ‖ 08:13, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All

 Unresolved (see all...)


One of the complexities of documenting Scratch is it changes so much. When Scratch transitioned from 1.4 to 2.0 there was an unbelievable amount of work on the Wiki that required tons of articles to be updated. This reached the solution of keeping articles relating to Scratch 1.4 but denoting them by putting "(1.4)" in the title of the article. For example, the older version of Paint Editor is Paint Editor (1.4). Another example is Project Compression (1.4) which is the old version of Project Compression.

I think we need to set in place some standards. In the future, we are going to have to do this for Scratch 3.0, so it's better if it can be done consistently. Firs thing to discuss is:

Past or Present Tense - I have noticed it is not always consistent. For example, Scratch Forums (1.4) discusses the forums in past tense. Paint Editor (1.4) uses the present tense, though that may make more sense since you can still use Scratch 1.4 while the Scratch forums are nonexistent. However, an article like Project Downloading (1.4) talks in the present tense even though project downloading on the Scratch 1.4 site is not possible since that old version of the site does not exist.

So I wonder, for an article that documents a feature in an old version of Scratch that is still accessible like the 1.4 Paint Editor, should it be: past or present tense?

For an article that documents a feature in an old version of Scratch that is impossible to access and there solely for history, should it be: past or present tense?

In the latter case of an article that documents an unavailable feature just for history, if present tense is used it sort of gives off the feel that that is how the article would be read if you were to be reading it in 2010 or whenever. This may make sense if we want our articles to sort of be like a frozen time capsule of the past. But if past tense is used, that could also make more sense because it's not 2010 but 2017.

Block Pages - This brings up another issue, and it has to do with block pages. An example of this is Distance to () (block). Please note that there is no Distance to () (block) (1.4) page on the Wiki, and that is so because this block is available in both Scratch 1.4 and 2.0, so we believed it was not necessary to document the same block in a prior version of Scratch. I'm starting to think, though, it might be a good idea.

Take a look at the script on that page. It uses the if <> then block as well as the stop [all v] block. Both these blocks are sort of in Scratch 1.4, but "if ()" then was just "if ()" and "stop [all v]" was just "stop all". So if somebody is using Scratch 1.4 and looks up the documentation of this block on the Wiki, the scripts in the article may use blocks not available in 1.4. There are probably more examples of block pages on the Wiki that use blocks not in Scratch 1.4, probably more dire examples than mine above.

It's just something to think about. How do we want to make our Wiki consistent throughout history to avoid any possible confusion? Do block articles deserve a (1.4) version or not? Eventually we are going to have (2.0) articles. It's best to decide stuff like this at the present moment.

If Block - I just noticed there happens to be no article on it. Technically "if () then" is only in 2.0, so shouldn't "if () (block) (1.4)" be an article?

Titles of Articles on items not in 2.0 - Examples of what I am talking about are the articles Stop All (block) as well as Java Player. The titles of these articles do not have (1.4) in the title because, well, they are not available in Scratch 2.0! So, I'm going to ask you guys, do you think by not having (1.4) in the title, it can be misleading, making people think it's a feature still available?

It does say at the top, "This article or section documents a feature not included in the current version of Scratch (2.0). It is only useful from a historical perspective" so I do not believe anybody reading the article is going to be confused and think the Java Player still exists. But do you think it should or should not have "(1.4)" in the title, or should "(1.4)" only be in the title of articles on features that have been replaced in Scratch 2.0?
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 22:41, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Turkey3 at it again with the great writing! I intend to move some things (leaving redirects, ofc) once I have time.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
23:38, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Firstly, I think that this is a very important topic. It's important to get this right, or, like you say, things could get more messy and complicated.
So, here are my views:
I agree that past tense should be used when something is no longer accessible, it's odd to say 'you can' if you can't anymore. Similarly, I support using present tense on still accessible but outdated features because you still 'can'.
I don't think we should make 1.4 versions of articles for blocks that are unchanged on both versions. Examples are only examples, so I don't believe it's worth duplicating a page for them. That being said, it should be good practice to make examples as 1.4/2.0-friendly as possible.
I also agree with making a 'if () (block) (1.4)' article as the change between versions could be a cause for confusion, and this article could help clear up that confusion.
I believe that the version number used on an article on an outdated feature should be the last version it was available in, making it clear that it is no longer used.
Furthermore, a feature on the current version should have no version number in my opinion, as this causes lots of moving when Scratch updates and also makes it appear to be historic, as the version number looks like it's denoting a secondary, or outdated version of something.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 18:52, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
So with that said do you believe the title should be "Java Player" or "Java Player (1.4)"?
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 19:04, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I support Java Player (1.4) and Stop All (block) (1.4) and at this moment I also support Flash Player and Stop () (block). However, when Scratch 3.0 comes, I believe that Flash Player should become Flash Player (2.0) and there should be a new article titled HTML5 Player.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 19:20, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I changed the article about Project Downloading (1.4) to past tense as you can no longer do it.
Blessing06 (talk | contribs) 15:40, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
If this is still going on, I started to move it to 1.4, 2.0, etc.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 15:14, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

Ok-here are my thoughts.
Any article that is about a feature available in all three versions (like the forums) should be one large article with different sections for 1.x, 2.0, and 3.0. An example name for an article like that would be "Scratch Discussion Forums."
Any article that is about a feature not available in the current version (like a Friend), it should have it's own page. An example name for an article like that would be "Friend." It would not be "Friend (1.4)" because there really is not a point; people don't need to know what an obsolete feature is right away.
Any article that is about a feature that is available in all three versions but went by different names (like Gallery -> Studios), it should be named what it is currently called (studios) and have a section documenting all versions. A redirect would be set up called "Gallery" for (if I'm being blunt) oldie users, and to document past versions for others.
Any article about a feature that isn't currently available but has the "main idea" still being used (like Scratch 3.0 Beta (forum)), there would be a separate article going by its feature's name, with a (xx) documenting what version it was used in. There would also be a link on the "main idea" wiki page going to that page.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:18, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
So, current admins, what do you think?
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 13:10, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Let's get all our ideas out before we start judging them; here's my proposed rules:

Titles
  • If the page is about a feature that has remained unchanged throughout all versions of Scratch, there should be a single article about it under its normal title.
  • If the page is about a feature that has changed between versions of Scratch:
    • If the changes were rather major/need a lot of documentation, have separate "title (version)" articles for each version it was changed in. The latest version should omit the "(version)" but the title including the version should redirect to it.
    • If the changes were rather minor/only need mentioning, include information about each past version in its own section and have separate "title (version)" redirects to their respective sections for each version it was changed in.
  • Previous rules apply to features added in later versions of Scratch than 1.4.
  • If the name of the feature changed between versions:
    • If the feature itself did not change, the old names (with and without a parenthesized version) should all redirect to the single article about the feature, which should mention the old names somewhere.
    • If the feature itself also changed:
      • If the changes were major (e.g. Friend -> Follower), the old and the new version of the feature should really be treated as completely separate features. The old name should be used for the old article, and the new name for the new article, neither of which should have parenthesized version numbers, but both of which should have corresponding redirects with said version numbers.
      • If the changes were minor, include a section in the new article about the old version, and the old name (with and without a parenthesized version number) should redirect to that section.
  • The same rules apply to future versions as do to past.
  • If the page is about a feature that was removed in a past or current version, all previous rules apply but as if the most recent version in which it was still present was the current version. (Id est, if following was removed entirely in 3.0, the page "Follower" would document the 2.0 version, and "Friend" would document 1.4.) The {{obsolete feature}} template should be added to the most recent version.
Tenses
  • If the page is about the current version of a feature, it should be in present tense.
  • If the page is about an old version, it should be in 'past tense. (Even if there is no subsequent version, this holds. Snapshots of the past do no good.)
  • If the page is about an upcoming version, it should be in future tense, but should be updated to present when the upcoming version becomes current.
  • If the page is about the current version which is to be removed in the future, it should remain in present tense but be updated to past when the upcoming version becomes current.

Those are my thoughts; anyone else have ideas?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:31, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Agreed!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 19:42, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
+1
TenType (talk | contribs) 22:15, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
I definitely think all this mess needs to get organized, so agreed. This could be really helpful for the future of the Scratch Wiki. I do really think we need to also consider Kenny2scratch's rules, because they could also play a major role in this. The only question is, how do we randomly start a big bulk change of articles because of this one thread? Do we announce this new idea to all of the Wikians? I feel like there should be some big announcement for changing incorrect tenses and titles right away after this thread gets clarified. Scratch 3.0 is already out now, and I'm pretty sure some "(2.0)" articles are on the way to complicate things.

Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 20:54, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done This has been implemented.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 17:11, 10 April 2022 (UTC)


Articles to update for 3.0

Yes Resolved (since a long time ago)

Yes Done

Hello everyone, it's already January 2nd for me, so I figure I might as well get the preparations started.

Observations/Edit Guidance

Pages outdated upon 3.0 release are incredibly numerous. In most cases, one or more of the following edits can or should happen:

  • Parts that talk about 3.0 features in future tense (e.g. "there will be a new paint editor") should be changed to use present tense (e.g. "there is a new paint editor") or past tense (e.g. "a new paint editor was introduced")
  • Parts that talk about 3.0 changes in future tense (e.g. "the editor will be moved to the right side") should be changed to use past tense (e.g. "the editor was moved to the right side")
  • Parts that mention dates in any tense should have their tense updated (e.g. "the official release will be January 2019" -> "the official release was January 2019")
  • Parts that talk about 2.0 features in any tense (e.g. "the paint editor has these features") should be changed to use past tense (e.g. "the paint editor had these features")
  • Parts that talk about 2.0 changes in any tense (e.g. "the editor was moved to the left") should all be changed to past tense if they haven't already.
  • Take this opportunity to update things that weren't changed from 1.4 days as well.

Progress

Here is a list of articles that need to be updated (on their real versions in mainspace) upon the release of 3.0. You can probably already start updating them now. Articles marked with an asterisk (*) have updates available at Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/the article title, but:

Note Warning: do not copy articles directly from their 3.0 versions!

Though in most cases the information will be correctly updated, make sure to use your own judgement as to its accuracy.

Note Note: Some of the articles listed below need to be created.

Feel free to update this list yourself. Add any articles that you discover that need updates; remove articles that have been updated.

Remember to take this opportunity to clean up articles as well as update them!

Fix typography or other writing issues as you come across them

We don't want to have to make a second sweep to clean up all the weird grammar from tense changes. Remember to fix the grammar and spelling of the articles as a whole while you update them.

Ask for help when you need it

If a page or redirect needs to be deleted or you need some other admin action, leave a message at Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests. If you don't specifically need admin actions, you can ask anyone you think would know the answer to your question.

Here's to a good 3.0 release!

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Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
05:40, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Oh I thought a bot would do it :P also are we saving old articles, for example Block Plugin(2.0)?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
I thought we were moving 2.0 to a different place and 3.0 to where 2.0 used to be.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  16:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Removed some articles from the list :)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Should Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Front Page (2.0) be updated? It's so similar to Front Page, that it seems redundant to create a new page.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
I noticed that many of the things needed to be changed were the same in 2.0 and 3.0. What should we do?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
Please don't externally link to Wiki pages! And please don't use underscores in links.
I'm pretty sure it's the pictures that need updating. Would you mind adding all the files on that page that need updating to the #Progress list?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Nothing has changed between 2.0 to 3.0 in Front Page, Messages, Discuss, Profiles. (Maybe more but these are all I've been to). The Project page and project editor are the only ones that have.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
The front page has changed, they've just been using the 3.0 skin for a while. Notice how the top bar is bright blue there and on project pages but a darker blue in discuss and the profiles as well as studios. Messages have also been at the 3.0 skin for a while. My stuff (and everything in it, like trash) has not been updated either.
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 02:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Also I think "Images of stuff in 2.0 should be updated to 3.0." should be included. VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  22:03, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Naming Blocks

Yes Resolved (since a long time ago)

Yes Done When referring to Scratch's blocks within an article, what format should be used? Some articles follow the capitalization of the title (like Tempo (block)), some articles use all lowercase (like Abs () (block)), and some use the block plugin (e.g. Set Video Transparency to () (block)). If there's not a consistent format, then there probably should be one.

(Thanks to Naleksuh for bringing this up)
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 17:33, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

I looked at the Editing Conventions, and they say that "capitalization for blocks remain the same as the title; for example, Tempo (block) changes to 'Tempo' and Project Downloading (1.4) changes to 'Project Downloading.'" If this is the case, should we change articles that don't follow this capitalization to match? What about articles that just use scratchblocks code?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 17:33, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
I am okay with the block name the same as in the title, however I do think that this means the title system should be changed, as it is currently using incorrect grammar, unnecessary disambigs, and not even aligning with the actual names used in Scratch
For example:
* If on Edge, Bounce (block) will become "if on edge, bounce" (yes, titles that start with a lowercase letter *are* possible - can be done individually or via the infobox)
* Boolean Block will become "Boolean block"
* How to Move Sprites with the Arrow Keys will become "How to move sprites with the arrow keys"
* Advanced Topics (forum) will become "Advanced Topics"
* New Scratcher Status will become "New Scratcher status"
* Scratch Design Studio will stay "Scratch Design Studio"
Any objections? Naleksuh (talk) 18:46, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
It's ironic that I have to be this person this time.
I brought this up nearly 3 years ago, and most people agreed that capitalization here is not ideal. However, Scimonster, an admin who predates me by nearly 6 years, came out of inactivity just to push down the idea. He quoted JSO, a founder:
I'm sorry to disappoint you all, but I really think this is a change we should not put our efforts and time in. I think the titles look just fine as they are, but most importantly I think it's not worth either breaking every single link ever created to the wiki or messing up the wiki by creating hundreds of redirects.

– JSO

I appreciate your eagerness to improve the Wiki, but suggesting sweeping radical changes literal hours after being accepted is not the way to go about it.
Also, fight your own fights. Why did you make Groko bring it up instead of posting it yourself?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
20:35, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
So, we should make sure all pages follow the same capitalization as the title, correct? What about pages with scratchblocks code? Personally, I think we should change them if the scratchblock replaces the bolded words in the intro paragraph, like in Set Video Transparency to () (block), but leave scratchblocks elsewhere.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 04:39, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
"I appreciate your eagerness to improve the Wiki, but suggesting sweeping radical changes literal hours after being accepted is not the way to go about it." I do not appreciate the condescending tone here. Especially not when "literal hours" was all I needed to find that multiple blocks were named wrong for over a year and half. I try to be polite and informative. Granted sometimes I fail at this. This attempts neither.
I do not agree with the text's capitalization matching the title (although I also disagree with how the titles are, so this may be null to begin with). I also do not think blocks mixed with text is a good idea, especially in introduction. Naleksuh (talk) 17:48, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
If you disagree with the Editing Conventions or titles, you should bring it up in a separate topic (although, as per what Ken said, a change in title case has been suggested and rejected multiple times now).
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 20:18, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Back to my original question; the Editing Conventions do not say whether blocks within the article should match the capitalization of the title; it only has guidelines for the bolded words in the intro paragraph. I think that a consistent way to refer to blocks should be added to the Editing Conventions, if one does not already exist. Personally, I think that blocks should all follow title capitalization, or else it would look strange and inconsistent. I also think that inline scratchblocks are fine as well. Thoughts?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 20:18, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Changing all names to truth names is a hard job as Ken said before. Yes, the capitalizations might looks like terrible, but also I think manually create redirects or move some articles are better than manually move all of them. For example, change "creepy" titles, but don't edit others so much. Maybe should use a Wiki extension - I'm not sure about that is possible, however.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:46, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
I think that we should change the articles that replace the bolded words with scratchblocks, ex. Set Video Transparency to () (block) because it looks a bit messy and unprofessional. I also think we should capitalise the name of the block the same way it has been done in the title, it keeps things neat.
Bananaandchoc1 (talk | contribs) 13:26, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
All block names follow the same format now, so Yes Done
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 23:31, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Template:Timestamp

Yes Resolved (since 21:44, 27 June 2022 (UTC))

I wanted to make a timestamp template that you can put in Custom Siggys. Can I do it?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile

S:SIG does not allow changing the timestamp in custom signatures, so this template would be unnecessary。
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 20:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
But how do you know what the UTC time is then? If there is a template for it will be easier to put the timestamp because otherwise you have to physically type it.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 09:28, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Typing ~~~~ will automatically result in a timestamp. You do not need to type a timestamp out manually.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 23:58, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
But that toggles the Scratchsig.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 06:33, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
@Vdiu: I don't know if you are aware of it, but five tildes (~~~~~) will print the time at UTC, like this:
13:40, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Or alternatively you can use {{subst:CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} for Unix time:
20220524134032
This answer has solved most of your concerns I believe. However, if you want something similar to a Wiki calendar template, those special commands will probably not be enough, and on that case you'd rather use some system like Wikipedia's.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
13:40, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks!
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 13:30, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Protect User talk:Dhuls/Archive 1

Yes Resolved (since 21:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC))


Dhuls's Wiki Icon.png Dhuls (Talk|889 Contributions|Scratch) 20:58, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:34, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Featured images

Yes Resolved (since 23:19, 2 April 2022 (UTC))

The featured images on scratch wiki home are still the april fools ones. Can they be updated?
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 23:04, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Please see my comment at S:CP#April Featured Images (permalink). :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 23:19, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
Ok.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 23:21, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Protect This page used to exist from being created

Yes Resolved (since 02:01, 18 July 2022 (UTC))

This page is used as an example of a red link for Template:Dead link's documentation. The page was mistakenly created and later deleted by Jvvg. Because the page name is used as an example, it should be protected to prevent further accidental creations.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:19, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Protect User talk:Jammum/Archives and all subpages to EW+

Yes Resolved (since 02:01, 18 July 2022 (UTC))

These pages are my talk page archives, and I would like them protected to EW+.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 12:37, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Protect User talk:Vdiu/Bot Archive from being edited by users other than me.

Yes Resolved (since 16:39, 1 August 2022 (UTC))

I'm not sure if you can do this, so tell me if you can't.

Note Note: It's okay if it's not protected against EWs and the statuses above [Like admins or bureaucrats].


SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:08, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately it is not possible to protect pages in this manner out of the box. The only way we'd be able to do this (short of building a custom extension) would be adding logic in AbuseFilter, but we are not going to do that just for one user.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:39, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Move Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Template:Timestamp to an archive

Yes Resolved (since an unknown date)

This topic was moved to S:CPND, but now it is done. Can it be moved to one of the archives?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:58, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

No Not done It will be moved when a new Community Portal archive is created (when the main CP is too full).
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:36, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes Done Now archived.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:13, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Duplicate file deletion

Yes Resolved (since 20:48, 20 August 2022 (UTC))

I recently created a file. I was then going to implement it in the 3.0 section of this article but I noticed that the book was already there, in the 2.0 section, as a separate file. Can the file that I created be deleted? In the meantime, shall I add the original file to the 3.0 section as the book is updated for 3.0? Also sorry that I didn't link to the files, I don't know how to do that without the actual image appearing.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 18:31, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

You can link the files by doing this: [[:File:whatever.png]]. Can you please provide the links (or just put {{delete}} on the file you want deleted) so I can locate them?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:57, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Here is the file that I created and here is the original.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 16:17, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
Yes Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:48, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Protect User:Han614698/archive001

Yes Resolved (since 22:42, 23 August 2022 (UTC))

^^ Edit - is it possible that I could still edit it? It's fine if EWs+ can edit it, but I would like to still edit it.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 20:10, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

We can't protect a page so that only one person can edit it. Additionally, since it's in your userspace, New Wikians are already prevented from editing it. So, I could either leave it the way it is (which will still allow you and all Wikians to edit it) or protect it at the EW+ level (which will prevent you and everyone except EWs from editing it). Which would you prefer? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 22:37, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
Just leave it as is for now - thanks anyway, though.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 22:42, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

Protect Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 040

Yes Resolved (since 02:05, 28 August 2022 (UTC))


Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
10:57, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

Yes Done
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:05, 28 August 2022 (UTC)

Protect User talk:Vdiu/Welcome Archive

Yes Resolved (since 15:24, 30 August 2022 (UTC))


SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:48, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

Yes Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:24, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
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