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Subpages for each topic

My idea here is: for each new topic, we make a separate subpage. So this topic would not be a topic - it would be Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Dedicated page for privileged action requests; subpages for each topic. Once a discussion is resolved, it will be "closed" by having the page protected. Once it is old enough to be archived, it is archived, by moving the contents to one of the normal archives (which will remain in effect) and either deleting the subpage (might break links) or redirecting it to that section (better).

To summarize the above novel:

  1. A user thinks of something that they want to say to the entire community.
  2. The user creates a subpage of the Community Portal, the title being what would normally be the section title (avoiding slashes).
  3. Other users respond to the topic in that subpage, and a consensus is reached as to how to proceed.
  4. Once the consensus has been implemented, an admin protects the page, preventing further discussion, and thereby closes the topic. Other users can ask (at "requests for privileged action", suggested above, or on an admin's talk) for it to be reopened if they think more discussion is needed.
  5. After a while, any admin can decide that the topic is old enough to be archived (meaning truly locking further discussion and requiring a new topic for revival) and moves the contents of the topic subpage to an archive.

Since a central place for asking questions in general will still be needed, I think, we could create something similar to Wikipedia's "village pump"

Pros
  • Organizes discussion immensely - this frees each topic from being in context of another.
  • Requires topics to be more important - it's a waste of space to make a separate page asking "how do you make things bold?".
  • Makes it easier to link to particular CP topics - Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/topic name is a lot less ephemeral of a title than Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#topic name, and also makes it easier to show which topics don't actually exist.
  • Drastically decreases load time.
Cons
  • Increases the number of pages drastically.
  • Makes flipping through topics more difficult - you can't scroll through them, you have to navigate to a separate page for each.

I understand this is quite a momentous suggestion - please post your opinion.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:34, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Personally, I think it is good the way it is. It may make it more complicated for new users then just making a new topic, and is it really needed to protect the page, because further discussion is good sometimes.
Another thing about the request, is that, it just makes the wiki seem more untidy (in my eyes) and would be annoying to get around. Plus: The users would have to make a new sub page for it, then make it into a talk page, Etc. Excuse me if I missed something here.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 19:00, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Another pro would be the shorter load time of the CP :P
But..I'm going to have to go with purplewolves — in my opinion it's easier the way it is
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:08, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
That's true, it would make loading time shorter, but as I said, it would get annoying.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 03:59, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
There's a reason I suggested having something similar to Wikipedia's village pump - things that would require easier flipping could be posted there, while momentous things that need separation from each other could go in subpages instead. I know it seems like defeating the purpose of the suggestion, but maybe instead of making a separate page for easy-flipping talk, instead making a separate page for suggestions might work?
Basically, the major point of this is that suggestions need to be distinct and worth suggesting; questions can be simple questions that wouldn't need such distinction.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:46, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
something like that is mentioned in different recent posts + continued at: #A little reorganization of old topics
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
12:35, 22 February 2018 (CET)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Since this has gone stagnant, and it doesn't seem like as good an idea as it seemed when I proposed it, I'll treat this as Yes Done by rejection.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:08, 28 March 2018 (UTC)

Wait one second! How is this done if it wasn't archived yet?
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:23, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Removing the "EW" usergroup

Let me give you some background on the EW usergroup first. It was created for two main reasons:

  • All the bureaucrats were Scratch Team members - the Wiki didn't have control over its own usergroups. So EW was created to be the equivalent of "admin" in a bureaucrat-less wiki. Basically, EW substituted admin and admin substituted bureaucrat.
  • There were a lot of account requests, so EW was made to help the admins process them all.

The first thing is no longer true. We now have our own bureaucrats (*cough cough* yours truly *cough cough*).

The second thing, though still true, is not as pressing. Now that we have active bureaucrats, we can confirm accounts just as quickly as we did before with EWs. In fact, there are very few EWs now that are not also bureaucrats.

So some of us have proposed that we get rid of the EW usergroup entirely. Then elections would be for admins, not EWs; and (I guess?) any current EWs would become admins.

Thoughts?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:32, 18 February 2018 (CET)

I always saw the EW role as a way to gain trust in users, before giving them full admin permissions, however, I do mostly agree with you.
Vuton Logo.png -Vuton- (Talk | Contribs | Pages) 14:37, 18 February 2018 (CET)
Support! Here are some ideas upon what we could do:
Unlike Cazzy's server, we shouldn't get rid of one of the EWs for no reason at all. We should have admin in place of EW and per election, those admins would be upgraded to bureaucrats. Ernie told me that we'd have admins for a few months, then upgrade them to bureaucrat. I prefer this idea. It's not necessary and confusing now.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 16:38, 18 February 2018 (CET)
Good arguments, but perhaps it's still a good idea to have a "two stage way" to admin rights? The important thing would be to have a acceptable difference in rights between admin and EWs.
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:04, 19 February 2018 (CET)
But really, I don't see the point in EW.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 12:29, 19 February 2018 (CET)
I agree with Martin. The only major right EWs have other than admins is protect, so EWs can't edit pages that only some more experienced users such as admins can edit effectively (such as the front page). I also think EWs should get all other perms such as undelete, etc. so they can maintain the Wiki as stated in their position description. But then there wouldn't be an acceptable difference in rights between admins and EWs.
My thoughts:
  1. Delete EW role and promote directly to admin.
  2. Protect admin only pages (such as the FP) as bureaucrat only. This means adding that protection level.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:38, 19 February 2018 (CET)
I feel like protecting admin only pages as bureaucrat only would be editlockedpages all over again - but hey, the FP is protected for a reason, so it's not too big of a deal. Support.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:32, 21 February 2018 (CET)
Support! This makes sense as the roles aren't really different. EWs could definitely serve better with more adminship positions. I also support the idea of new protection level.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 15:21, 3 March 2018 (CET)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Just note: this would likely re-introduce an "editlockedpages" equivalent and also promote every current EW to admin.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
15:25, 3 March 2018 (CET)

so can remove the usergroup now?
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:50, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
I think we should remove the EW usergroup. As Ken said, the two reasons aren't strong enough to keep this group. There just isn't a reason to have EWs.
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 16:05, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
No Not done?
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 22:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Nah, I'll mark this as Yes Done in favor of Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Let's change EW stuff moar.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:00, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Changing S:NOSP

Yes Done

In the Scratch Jam topic, most of my motivation for opposition was because S:NOSP disallows featuring user-generated content on the Wiki. However, after the transfer, I believe this should be changed a little bit.

Last night, I realized one crucial flaw with the rule after the transfer: the Wiki itself is now user-generated content. Therefore, technically the page Scratch Wiki itself would break it if it weren't for the Scratch Team involvement occasionally (cough Wiki Wednesday cough). Because of this, I propose a rule change that might satisfy everyone (and the now-moot topic above): Instead of requiring official Scratch Team sponsorship, I think that if something deserves a place on the Wiki, it only needs to have either at least one Scratch Team member involved or be directly related to Scratch. For example, the above Scratch Jam fits both of those conditions - it's a Scratch Jam and it had Lifay involved. However, Scratch Jams would not get a Scratch Wiki: page because they are not directly Wiki related. As to my previous argument that user-generated content would provoke spite, I believe now (though I didn't before) that a single Scratch Team member or a clear relationship with Scratch is enough to quell such hatred.

What do you think about this rule change? Are there unintentional side effects I failed to mention? Or is there some extra advantage you know about? What are your thoughts?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:11, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

First of all thanks for driving this! The least one Scratch Team member involved or be directly related to Scratch is a good start. Where would that sentence go in? There is already a point in S:NOSP: Topics that have been considered important/notable enough in Scratch's history by a majority of wiki editors that they deserve an article. (ex. Kaj, Removed Pac-Man Project, etc.).
I would also suggest to add the Scratch Club decisions here, since they are results of a discussion of several responsible people, all results are documented and Martin is typically taking part. The Scratch Club meeting originated from the German wiki, but many decisions of the Wiki transition have been discussed there. There is also an english-speaking international version of it, all thinks related to a non-german Wiki should be discussed there. The reason why I want to have Martin in is that he is the official main reponsible of all Wikis now and the guy carrying all the financial and legal risk. Note that this would be just a seat in the council, not a dictatorship.
So my suggestion is to extend the point as follows:
Topics that have been considered important/notable enough in Scratch's history (e.g. endorsement by a ST team member, a documented Scratch Club decision, or a majority of wiki editors) that they deserve an article. (ex. Kaj, Removed Pac-Man Project, etc.).
For the second part, I don't fully get the requirement of wiki-related. After all most of the articles are about Scratch and not related to the Wiki. I think the main criteria should be being Scratch-related and being notable. For example the Scratch Jam, in its current form, should not get its own page because it appears to get not too many submissions and therefore is most likely smaller than many studios on Scratch, however if, let's say, a Scratch becomes more popular in the gamedev scene because of this or some notable YouTube or Switch streamers cover the event (just wishful thinking :-) ), it would be notable and could have its own page. To give another example, if Snap! would not have its own page it would deserve one because of its importance in teaching and as a follow-up language for Scratch, despite being not directly related to the Scratch page or the wiki.
Frodewin (talk | contribs) 06:52, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
There's an English-speaking international Scratch Club?? Where do I join??
I think it would be better to adapt the point like this:
Exceptions to this rule include topics receiving endorsement from a Scratch Team member, documented Scratch Club decisions, topics enormously important to Scratch culture (e.g. Kaj, Removed Pac-Man Project, etc.), or other topics agreed on by a majority of Wiki editors.
The related-to-Wiki requirement is about getting pages in the Scratch Wiki namespace rather than the mainspace, don't mind it - I shouldn't have brought it up, as it's a topic for another day.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:22, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
A slight modification.
Exceptions to this rule include topics receiving endorsement from a Scratch Team member, documented Scratch Club decisions, topics enormously important to Scratch culture (e.g. Kaj, Removed Pac-Man Project, etc.), or other topics agreed on by a majority of Wiki editors and administrators.
Also I hate the be the naysayer here: but can we clarify the phrase "endorsement from a Scratch Team member"? Wouldn't that mean that every person followed by a Scratch Team member would be notable enough to deserve an article?

Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 12:39, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
A follow is not an endorsement. A follow simply indicates that the ST member likes the user's content and wants to see when they release more - it does not indicate that the ST member is "sponsoring" the user, like they are when they help organize a Scratch Jam.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
12:58, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Ah. The never-ending Internet debate about whether a like = endorsement. RT != Endorsement! :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 19:11, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Lol.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 00:08, 19 April 2018 (UTC)

My executive decision on this is to add "Topics that are confirmed to have involved at least one Scratch Team member" to the bulleted list of exceptions to the rule. I don't think "documented Scratch Club" decisions is related to Scratch; those would likely be in projectspace pages, which have different rules.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
21:41, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
This topic is now Yes Done.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
21:41, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Change the colour of Template:Welcome

Yes Done

I think it's time for a change. The reason we chose this specific colour was because it was the colour of the navigation bar. Now it's changed.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 12:20, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Support.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 03:48, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
The color was made to match the navigation bar? Huh! I never knew that!
Semi-support in that case, I guess. On the pros side, it'll match the header; on the cons side, it may look a little more foreboding - to me, the header purple is an "angry" purple, while the Scratch blue is a "welcoming" blue.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:48, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
I never new that as well, but i agree with ken

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 12:08, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
I've just changed it to match the new Scratch header color - I think that's the best option. Yes Done.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:58, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Page restoration

I noticed a page was a little messed up. I went ahead and recreated a mockup of the page and placed it in my sandbox. Thoughts on the mockup?
Original: Scratch Wiki:Block Plugin Bugs
Mockup: User:Banana439monkey/sandbox

Do we think I'm ready to push to that page?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 05:41, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Wiki Wednesday protection

Yes Done

Hi there! Can an admin please protect the current Wiki Wednesday article (Animated GIF)? Thanks :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 19:19, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:54, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:46, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Adding Template:Blocked

Yes Done
On the Scratch Wiki, there are a lot of blocked users. There is currently no template to show that they are blocked. Doing this has a number of advantages:

  1. Showing that the user is blocked if they have not written that on their page
  2. Having all the statistics right on the userpage
  3. On the blocked use list, you can't access the username of the users, so this template allows you to know the username of the blocked user
  4. Having a formal system of blocked user information

Should we create this template, or is it okay to go with the block list and user statements?
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs) 20:30, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Doing this has a number of disadvantages:
  1. The Scratch Team can have a reason to disallow linking to us, rendering us as unmoderated.
  2. Scratch doesn't do it.
  3. Special:BlockList was removed from our view for a reason. The user list displaying blocked users is bad enough.
    Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 20:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
No, this is not allowed at all. This template purposely does not exist, simply because WE DO NOT PUBLICISE OUR BLOCKS. If a user is blocked, it stays between them and the blockee. This template will just cause drama.
border=3px Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 20:58, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Template:Blocked user was deleted a long time ago. Reasons are mentioned above ^.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:26, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes Rejected. Blocks are kept as quiet as possible. We are not Wikipedia.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:51, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Adding a protection extension

I'm unsure of the name, but Wikipedia has a symbol to signify a page has been protected when reading the page, and its level. The image looks like a padlock. Possibly we could add that extension here, since it may just be useful for seeing protection levels when viewing pages?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 12:26, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

It's not an extension, it's actually a template using a built-in MW feature. The {{featured}} template uses the same feature. We don't need to signify that a page has been protected, though - when you open the pencil menu, it either says "edit" or "view source", which makes it pretty clear whether you can edit it.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
12:39, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
But then that means nothing if it's edit source and it's protected.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 16:01, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

British VS American English

What English should we use on the wiki?

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 15:07, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

I don't know, but I'd suggest using whichever one you'd use outside of of wiki. But on thw whole, American English is a good idea as Scratch is based in America after all.
Redglitter Profile Picture.gif Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 412 edits ~ Profile) 15:15, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
When adding a part, use either form. However, because the primary language is English (US), please do not edit pages changing English (US) to English (UK). Vice versa is acceptable.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 16:29, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
According to Scratch Wiki:Editing Conventions, use American English when creating new articles, as well as for all titles, but if an article with British English was grandfathered in then stay consistent with the article.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:26, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

A better system of replying

Okay, so right now, the only way of replying is using indents. That's a basic form of replying, but it is so difficult to see which message you are replying to. The other way is by removing indents, but it makes the indenting look ugly. This new idea introduces a template called indent. It indents the message, like outdent, making indenting more beautiful and easier to read.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 15:56, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

Support!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:34, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
I strongly disagree. Though it may look better, in the source code it won't. Which looks more appealing to the eye? This?
Message
:Reply
::Reply to reply
Or this?
Message
{{indent}}Reply
{{indent}}{{indent}}Reply to reply
Or this, if we're smart about it?
Message
{{indent}}Reply
{{indent|2}}Reply to reply
The first way is way more concise. Besides, using a template means proposing a change like the Wiki has never seen since the transfer, and for the sole reason of making things look "more beautiful" when even the beauty is 美中不足!
Unless you can think of a supreme technical reason to make this change that I can't refute, I remain strongly opposed to this idea.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:41, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Hi all! It's been a while since I've been on here, just popping in! What I am a little confused about is how the template would make it more clear who you are replying to. Could you elaborate on that a bit? Thanks banana!
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 03:57, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
I guess that system in the source code is ugly, but it's ugly the way you do it right now.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 08:04, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
I find the current system perfectly pleasing to the eye, in both source and parsed.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:12, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Then possibly we could enforce that system?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 18:31, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Compliment Tuesday! June 26th 2018

Welcome to the Fourth Compliment Tuesday! June 26th 2018.


What is Compliment Tuesday?

Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Compliment

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Compliment Tuesday

Compliments

The Compliments are *drum roll please*

NYCDOT (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for being such an active Scratch Wiki editor, and thanks for your edits!
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for helping out in general! You do some of the work I'd consider gruel work :P
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    08:51, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your mainspace edits and thoughtful responses in the Community Portal!
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs)
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for posting the Wiki Wednesday posts; Wiki Wednesday is amazing!
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
  • You are an AMAZING Scratch Wiki editor; I can tell how much you care about the Scratch Wiki from how much time and effort you put into it!
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
  • You are the best and most active editor on this wiki. You’re so dedicated and care about the wiki so much.
    Hellounicorns2’s current logo.png нεllσυηιcσяηs2 (тαlкcσηтяιвsρяσғιlε) 06:38, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for being so active and helping out so much!
    KJRYoshi07 Latvia Logo.png KJRYoshi07 (My Talk) (Contribs) KJRYoshi07 10:28, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your help on the wiki, during the transfer and on the interwikis.
    Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 09:02, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for teaching me how to Archive. That Really helps.:) 12:34, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
KJRYoshi07 (talk | contribs)
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for being the most active EW besides yours truly! You're also very friendly when dealing with account requests, more friendly than I sometimes can be.
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    05:20, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for making all of those helpful redirects! Although we've had our frictions, and some redirects had to be deleted, I still admire how much thought you put into where people might look for information, and how to redirect them to existing information.
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    05:20, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for being such an active Scratch Wiki editor! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:31, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
jvvg (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for being a great EW/Admin. You were very great when trasfering the domains.
    NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 16:51, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you for dedicating so much time of your life to the Wiki! I find it difficult to believe that you're in college (or right now in a job I guess) and still find time to edit.
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    08:51, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Eventhough you’re 20 and have job now you still help out on the wiki. I find you and amazing smart person and you are so helpful and polite to other wikians.
    Hellounicorns2’s current logo.png нεllσυηιcσяηs2 (тαlкcσηтяιвsρяσғιlε) 06:38, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you for everything you've done for us. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:31, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you again for helping to revive Compliment Tuesday! You're almost literally making the Wiki a better place :D
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    08:51, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you for doing so much for Compliment Tuesday, and the Scratch Wiki in general! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:31, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
Hellounicorns2 (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for being an active Wikian and for being very helpful on this wiki!
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:20, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for hosting the international Scratch Wikis! Although you rarely appear on this wiki, your every edit is still much appreciated. You provide all of the financial support we need, and you additionally deal with the hosting provider for us. Thank you!
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    09:01, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
Kurankuran (talk | contribs)
ErnieParke (talk | contribs)
Apple502j (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for helping me at the wiki. You're such a helpful person!
    Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 22:12, 24 June 2018 (UTC)


The next CT is July 3rd 2018! See You then!

There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:54, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Nice! :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 14:38, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Glad to see so many compliments!

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 16:59, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Not DoneNo Why is this in the archives??
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 14:59, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
I moved it to CP
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 06:23, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Because of previous topics I assumed that all CT topics were {{done}} as soon as they were posted. I now know otherwise.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:26, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 16:35, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Yes The next CT has come out so now this is done :D
Hellounicorns2’s current logo.png нεllσυηιcσяηs2 (тαlкcσηтяιвsρяσғιlε) 21:46, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Compliment Tuesday! July 3rd, 2018

Welcome to the Fifth Compliment Tuesday! July 3rd, 2018.

What is Compliment Tuesday?

Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Compliment

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Compliment Tuesday

Compliments

The Compliments are *drum roll please*

kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
  • Being very active on the wiki.

    Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 17:10, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Again, thank you so much for all you have done for us. You're awesome! :D
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 19:13, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks for posting the CT post this week while I'm gone. You are a big help! :D
    Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:05, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you for fixing the {{note}} template!
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:25, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs)
  • Being so thoutful and polite on the wiki.

    Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 17:10, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
jvvg (talk | contribs)
bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
ErnieParke (talk | contribs)
Asqwde (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for being a frequent and constructive poster on the Community Portal! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:50, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs)
Hellounicorns2 (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for being so active here and being a great, thoughtful, constructive, awesome, and dedicated wiki editor! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 19:13, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
jakel181 (talk | contribs)

The next CT is July 10th, 2018! See you then!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:50, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Note Note: I'm taking over CT while jakel181 is away, he'll be back for the next CT.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:52, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
YAY!

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 11:39, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Cool-cat-emoji.png Great!! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:55, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:20, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Scratcharchiveasun

So, I've been surfing through the Wiki, and noticed a lot of the references are from this, a website devoted for the archives of the 1.x forums. Does anyone know who discovered this website, and who Andrew Sun is? (He seems to be website creator)
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 00:24, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

When the Scratch website migrated to 2.0, one of the things that wasn't transferred over was the old forums. The ST kept an archive of the forums at archive.scratch.mit.edu for a while, but then they decided that they didn't want to waste resources on it. Blob8108 asked them if he could take over the archive, so they gave the data to him and he hosted it on scratchforums.blob8108.com for another while, but then the cost of hosting it became too much and he asked for someone to take over the archives. Andrew Sun, better known as comp09, volunteered and put the archives on the current domain.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:54, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Ok, thanks!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 11:57, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 04:30, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Remove the {{Protect}} Template?

The protect template is unused now. What users normally do is comment on a sysop's talk page asking for a protect. Should we remove it?
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 16:28, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Actually, we should use this template rather than posting to an admin's talk, because with the template all admins can check it.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 04:30, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
I disagree, we should not remove it. And i actually used it a couple of days ago.

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 06:03, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
The protect template has its uses, though it isn't used much. I'll treat this as Yes Done by rejection.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:16, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Minor change to {{open userpage}}

There have been a few cases where users have added {{open userpage}} to others' userpages without permission. To prevent this from happening in the future, I have added a rule to the abuse filter where you cannot add or remove the template from others' userpages. I have also updated the warning message to make it more obvious to a user why their edit is not allowed.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:19, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Cool-cat-emoji.png Awesome! Sounds good! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:57, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Cool!

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 13:38, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 03:15, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Protected page edit

Hi, can a EW Plus edit the page Animated GIF and replace it with the contents here I fixed it according to S:STYLE

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 09:45, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

No. That's too minor an edit to need a protected edit.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:52, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
What difference does it make whether it is minor or not?

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 11:41, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
The difference is that the edit isn't actually needed - it's completely fine without it.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:27, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
I guess this means the edit should be postponed until the article isn't featured anymore? -
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) 10:22, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Ken is on a trip

Tomorrow, I'm leaving for Germany to visit Martin. I'll be there from tomorrow until the 5th of August.

While I'm there, I will be in the German timezone - so if you have anything you need me to do, it's best to keep in mind that I'm not in the HK timezone. Also, I'll have whatever command-line access to the Wiki that I request - i.e. I will have SSH access to the Wiki servers. So if there's something server-side that needs doing, I can probably do it faster than the other admins while I'm there, since I'll have command-line access instead of plain FTP.

– Yesterday at 9:12 PM, Ken on Discord


Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 23:16, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Compliment Tuesday! July 10th 2018

Welcome to the Sixth Compliment Tuesday! July 10th 2018.


What is Compliment Tuesday?

Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Compliment

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Compliment Tuesday


Compliments

The Compliments are *drum roll please*

User Compliments
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
Asqwde (talk | contribs)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The next CT is July 17th 2018! See you then!



Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:26, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

No Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:28, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
@Jakel, fixed your post
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
17:33, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done

Adding Template:Good Guidelines

No Not done I think we need a template for pages that would usually break the Wiki Guidelines but have exceptions made for them. It would look like this:

Yes check.png This article or section has content that would usually break the Wiki Guidelines. However, an exception has been made for it because .

Source code: {{Header Template |[[File:Yes check.png|25px]] |This article or section has content that would usually break the [[Scratch Wiki:Guidelines|Wiki Guidelines]]. However, an exception has been made for it because {{{1|}}}.} Example pages:
Kaj
Removed Pac-Man Project
Scratch in the Media/SpaceX Falcon 9 Lander
Should we create this template?
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 16:09, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Already have something like it.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 16:47, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
I think such exceptions are rare enough that it's OK to re-create it on every exceptional page.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
17:31, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
@NYCDOT: What do you mean by "Already have something like it"?
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 16:24, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
UPDATE TO MY LAST EDIT: I notified NYCDOT on their talk page. He/she said that we could just use Header Template.
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 16:13, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done?
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 16:13, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls

I don't know why Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls is there. Should we delete it?
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 16:25, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Same, i think it should be deleted.

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 16:42, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
No! It's a system category that, as the name suggests, contains pages with too many expensive parser function calls (expensive means it uses a lot of resources to call). It should ideally be empty, but is unfortunately usually not.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
16:58, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done yeah it shouldn't be deleted by above
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 11:57, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

References Forum Topic

We all want the wiki to be as accurate and trustworthy as possible. A way we can make it trustworthy is by adding references. But some articles haven't got enough references and finding references is hard work. References need to be:

  • Accurate
  • Trustworthy
  • Reliable

That's a lot of work to get a good reference. Help:References provides more info on references. It's hard for several people to get all the references when you look at how many pages link to Citation needed there are a lot of pages!

I suggest we make a forum topic, that says all / most of the pages that need references and get the help of scratchers. We can tell them what makes a good reference and ask if anyone can find or get a reference and if they do they can link us to it. Then one of the wiki editors can add it to the page.

I think this is a good idea as it will help make the wiki accurate and trustworthy. What do others think?

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 17:12, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

I think having a post that directly lists the pages will be too hard to maintain. It would be better to instead link to the list of pages transcluding Template:Citation needed on the post. Then anyone can contribute references in posts on that topic. It would also be nice to have the people contribute their references according to the format, so we should link to or quote that.
I do like the idea! It might also be better to have a Wiki admin start the topic (as with the CP topic), but you will definitely be credited.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:55, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
I agree with what you have just said. Support!
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 07:58, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Can we start the topic yet?
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 06:10, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
I think we should wait for at least one more supporter, my approval doesn't mean community approval ;)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:50, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Yeah,true
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 14:35, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Support
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 18:11, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:11, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Support and No Support Templates

There are a lot of ideas posted on the CP and talk pages including:

  1. Merging
  2. Deletion
  3. New ideas for the wiki

I think we should have a template which says whether users support or do not support those ideas. Thoughts?

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 17:27, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

You can just do:
{{done|Support}} and {{not done|No support}}
Yes Support and No No support
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
17:29, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
Oh thanks for telling me that Yes Done

Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 17:30, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

The All Scratch Wikis page

Yes Done I found that de:Scratch-Wiki:Alle Scratch Wikis is broken. Can someone fix it?
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 20:31, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

I'll be working on that later. I know exactly why it's broken.  Doing...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:02, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:34, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

:'P Template

Emoji template, exists on Scratch. Should we create it?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 20:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead, but don't call it ":'P", that'll be hard to type. Make the title a word of some sort. The Template:E parameter should be :'P though.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
20:19, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents

If a user clicks the Website image, the link is broken Can a sysop change it to go to Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Front Page?
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 17:13, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

I fixed it with a redirect. Yes Done
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:45, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
No Not done The redirect won't meet the capitalization rule!
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 06:07, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Fixed and deleted the redirect
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:24, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Change Template:Shortcut

Template:Shortcut's links to the shortcut pages are just [[{{{_}}}]]. Should we change them to {{plain link|https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title={{{_}}&redirect=no|{{{_}}}}}?
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 16:30, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

No! The shortcut just shows the redirects, there's no need to break a style guideline just to show the redirect page itself. If you really need to see the page itself, any page that's redirected to will have a link to the redirect page - use that instead.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
17:14, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 03:05, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

A Question about protection

Hi, os i know there is a level of protection for EWplus, but as far as i am aware there is another level of protection so that only registered users can edit that page. But can't unregistered users not edit pages already?
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 06:17, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Have you ever seen an IP address user make an edit? Anything in the recent changes where an IP address is the username? The answer is no. Anonymous editing is disabled here. You must have an account to edit; you must go through the request process to have an account.
The protection levels we have are:
autoconfirmed
Allows only registered users to edit. This is pretty useless, since all editors are registered anyway, but we can't remove it since it's a MediaWiki default level.
sysop
Allows only administrators to edit. This is only used for very high-traffic pages like Scratch Wiki Home.
wikian
Allows only Wikians to edit. A Wikian must have 50 edits and a month-old account. This is used on pages that should be editable by most regular users, but that we don't want new users to mess up.
botplus
Allows only bots, EWs, and administrators to edit. This is used on pages that are automatically updated by a bot but shouldn't be edited by normal users.
EWplus
Allows only EWs and administrators to edit. This is used on pages that shouldn't be edited by normal users but should be edited by EWs, not just admins.
Hope that clears everything up!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:49, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, but if the autoconfirmed has no use, why is Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Front Page protected with it?
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 09:49, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing that out! It's now wikian-protected.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:55, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 03:05, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

News Entry

July 16, 2018 — Scratch Camp Make Art
The first week of Scratch Camp has begun. The theme for the first week is Make Art. The description says: For the first week of Scratch Camp, try your hand at art! Sculpture, painting, pen art, or origami, the possibilities never end!
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 11:48, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done with some edits.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:52, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 12:08, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Protection Level

auto-confirmed -> wikian:

auto-confirmed -> none:

auto-confirmed -> EWplus:

  • Template:Welcome — protected at wikian instead, no reason only EWs can edit it

sysop -> none:

sysop -> EWplus or wikian:

  • Talk:Scratch Wiki Home - I don't think we have to protect it as main is. Not many see it. — completely unprotected instead, no need to protect a redirect
  • Talk:Main Page - same — completely unprotected instead, no need to protect a redirect
  • Category:Scratch Wiki — no change, that's the root category

EWplus -> none:

EWplus -> sysop:


Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 12:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

I've edited your post, marking what I ended up doing (I didn't want to copy it all myself :P)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:47, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Delete Request

Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:32, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Adding DeleteOwn

The cool thing about this extension is that you can delete pages you authored, which frees EW time, plus probably isn't a huge concern, even for vandals. Most people actually accidentally create pages, then realise oh shoot, why did I make that page. now i've gotta ask an ew to delete it. Instead, they can delete it themself. Thoughts?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 02:09, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Nice! How do we use it?
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 02:15, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Um, no, we don't. Deleting your own articles would just be another opening for vandalism - it gives users an extra right to abuse. What if the creator of some major page suddenly decides to delete it?
Deleting test pages isn't that big a hassle either. Just leave it be.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:38, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Maybe we could modify the extension to say, if the page has this much traffic, has several edit or/and is linked to, they can't delete it.
What about OCD people?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 03:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Then that's no different from just requesting it.
OCD people: they can just request for it to be deleted.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:57, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Otherwise they can.
And impatient?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 04:01, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Human processing of requests for deletion allow for much greater account of context - that is, a human will understand what's going on and not just blindly delete it if it meets requirements, whereas an extension will ignore the situation and just go for it.
Patience is a virtue. Learn patience.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:06, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Patience is a virtue. Learn patience.

– Kenny2scratch


KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:32, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes Done
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 03:03, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Wheres compliment Tuesday?

Hi, it was Tuesday yesterday but there was no compliment Tuesday?!
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 11:49, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

I just contacted Ken about it. If you were on discord...
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 12:27, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done sorry for they delay its up now.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 16:33, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Update TOC Website

You need to update this. Move Newest Projects into removed rows.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 19:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Yes Done
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 19:53, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Privacy policy

Our privacy policy links to the German wiki. Should we make one of our own?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 19:07, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

No. The German privacy policy is the legally accurate one. Our disclaimer is a rough (and outdated, now) translation of the German disclaimer.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
22:24, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 03:02, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Some maybe interesting, maybe random statistics for you all.

This is all based on InterwikiBot's GA stats as of this revision; all pageviews are within the last 30 days as of that revision. All of these stats are also only based on the top 50 pages.


Total stats


Average pageviews per page
1693.38 views
Median pageviews per page
1022.5 views
Average difference between pageviews
279.85714285714283 views per 2 pages
Median difference between pageviews
23 views
Average multiple of one page's views to the next highest page's views
1.0750302492044652 times per 2 pages
Median multiple of one page's views to the next highest page's views
1.022749752720079 times
Total pageviews
84669 views

Stats for highest datapoint: Scratch Wiki Home


Views
14395
Pulls up average viewcount by
259.2167346938777 views
Difference to next highest, Scratch 3.0
5316 views
Pulls up average difference by
104.91964285714283 views per 2 pages
Multiple of next highest, Scratch 3.0
Scratch Wiki Home is 1.585527040422954 times more popular

Stats for lowest datapoint: List of Bug Workarounds


Views
682
Pulls down average viewcount by
20.640408163265192 views
Difference to next lowest, Creating a Quiz
14 views
Pulls down average difference by
5.538690476190482 views per 2 pages
Fraction of next lowest, Creating a Quiz
Creating a Quiz is 1.0205278592375366 times more popular

Stats for median datapoints: Jumping and Cloud Data


Views
1034 and 1011
Changes average viewcount by
-27.95333333333315 views
Changes average difference by
-5.351190476190482 views per 2 pages
Changes average multiple by
-0.001089177010091591 times

Enjoy!
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07:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Should we be thinking about ways to possibly increase these numbers?
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 14:44, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
It seriously depends on which number you're talking about.
I think the objective is decrease the average difference and average multiple, while increasing average views and anything to do with it. Also decrease any "changes" or "pulls up" or "pulls down" values.
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08:24, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

A style tweak

Yo, just dropping by to announce a small SWS style change: I've updated the text colors to match the main site's new colors. Links are now slightly darker blue, and the body text is slightly lighter black. Font weights were shunned and are now either "bold" or "normal" - no crazy 700 or 300. Feel free to reply here or leave me a message on my talk with any questions.
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07:27, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Cool-cat-emoji.png Cool!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:00, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Just voicing my opinion that I do not like this change - it looks very off-putting to me. Is this a required change by ST? If not, my opinion stands.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:12, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Then again I talked to ST about it. Want to know why they thought this change was good.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:17, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 02:58, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

New Front Page Skin

The Scratch Website just got a new look because of Scratch 3.0. We need to update all the images to the new skin. Please upload new images to fit the new design of the Front Page.
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 17:19, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

It's fine, we've had plenty of outdated stuff. It's not crucial that everything is updated. It would be nice if people updated things, but it's not absolutely necessary.
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17:30, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 02:57, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Users Needed!

Hey... um... we need new users for Turkish Scratch Wiki. What should I do?
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 15:55, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

This isn't the best place to advertise - you could try posting in the Turkish forum or making a project about it. The people here mostly don't speak Turkish, I believe.
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15:57, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Oh... yeah! I can post a new topic about the Turkish Scratch Wiki(again).
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 16:00, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 16:34, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
It's great that you are so actively working on the turkish wiki! You can also direcly message turkish speaking users on the Scratch website and tell them about the turkish test wiki. To find turkish speaking users, maybe look for keywords in turkish language in the search or so? -
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) 18:32, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Curator (front page)/List of Curators is now protected

See title. This is to prevent users from editing in the wrong places and disrupting WikiMonitor's automatic curator updates. "But Ken! How will we change the future curators list?" Behold, a new page: Curator (front page)/Future Curators. The protected list now transcludes that unprotected page. Because of caching issues, it may be a good idea to purge the list after editing the future curators page.

Just letting y'all know!
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11:38, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

Cool-cat-emoji.png Good idea!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 13:29, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 10:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

"Friend" Rank

How would people like to have a "friend" rank? The requirements would be recommending three people every month whom the administrators should send special invitations to fill out a wiki application. This may be beneficial to expanding the English language community with Scratchers whom you believe would make good wiki editors. The administrators would perform their own evaluation but would provide a special title for those who get three of their nominee's messaged. :).

I don't think that a system currently exists to build this community in such a manner, and therefore I think it could be very constructive.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:59, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Huh? You mean a new usergroup? What privileges would such a usergroup have?
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08:09, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
It's a title not an explicit usergroup.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 12:30, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
So you're suggesting a badge of honor when being on the Wiki in and of itself is not supposed to be a badge of honor? No thanks.
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12:32, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
We'd get a case of jealousy.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 12:35, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Ken & I have cleared up some misunderstandings of the idea and will have a final interface to present soon.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 17:58, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
Sounds good!
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Outdated Reference Template

What do people think about having an outdated reference template where people could see which pages have references which need to updated to fit our new format. I'm having trouble editing some references on a slower device so it would be handy for me to be able to bookmark these pages in a helpful fashion.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 23:59, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

We have the {{dead link}} template for marking links that are outdated, I think it serves the same purpose.
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10:18, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes Done
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 10:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

ARCHIVE 100TH (125KB)

NOTE: These should be archived, too!


Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 10:41, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Lack of curiosity at Scratch Wiki?

No Not done

I was a little bit astonished seeing no reaction to

and

Both GP (Programming Language) (de:GP (Programmiersprache)) and BeetleBlocks (de:Beetle Blocks] are great new scratch-based awaysome Programming Environments, created by the scratch-wide known inventors Eric Rosenbaum (MaKey MaKey) and John Maloney (main developer of Scratch for 10 years) & Jens Mönig (creator of BYOB & Snap!). Both innovations were presented at de:Scratch2015AMS. Because we are not as fluid in the English language we wrote German articles at the DACH-Scratch-Wiki about it. Furthermore there are more very interesting articles in the DACH Scratch Wiki that have no corresponding article in the English Scratch Wiki and additional there are innovations like TurtleStich and Tickle that have no article in any Scratch Wiki. (see Conference Program (english!!!)) and Conference Videos (English!!!) of de:Scratch2015AMS.

I thought it would be enough to shortly mention that. I thought many curious English scratch-wiki-authors would have a look the German articles, see that there is much English information linked to it, like Videos and other Webpages, have a look at the picture and google-translate the German text to get an impression and then start to create English articles about it here.

I also think that the innovations presented at the Scratch-Conferences and the Conferences them self are much underrepresented here at the English Scratch Wiki. I saw threads at this CP about "I wish I was at the wiki some years before when there where much more new articles left to be created" or threads about creating more icons for talk pages of the Wiki or other wiki-community-related things...I wonder how that fits to that utterly lack of curiosity about awesome innovations happening in the "World of Scratch" (excuse me for that provocative style...I hope that helps to get more reaction, so it's meant really positive  ;-)

...Perhaps now I gave enough information to wake up the curiosity of some people? I am really looking forward what will happen :)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:30, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

I will work on an article about beetle blocks now. :)
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Great start for article BeetleBlocks! :-) I added the Interwiki-Link. You could get pictures from the German article.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 01:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
What's about The Scratch Song, GP (Programming Language), TurtleStich, Tickle and other innovations mentioned at de:Scratch2015AMS? Who want's to write English articles about it? Also BeetleBlocks seems to be not fished...
see:.

Not Done!!

No Not done because there are still many articles to write suggested above
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:51, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Hey there! I'll start working on TurtleStitch and once I'm done with that, I'll probably do another one. Thanks! Here is the TurtleStich one: http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/TurtleStich#About_TurtleStich
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 13:31, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Great, Thanks!
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 21:14, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I got started on Tickle. It's quite short as I found it difficult to find information. If anyone could help, that would be great!
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 11:34, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
@Hamish752: Thanks for making a start with Tickle :-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:53, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

List of potential articles and sources

(Please feel free to at potential articles and sources, but discuss in the above section, to keep that here a "working list"
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:07, 22 January 2016 (UTC))

Not Done!!

No Not done because until now there is nobody who has the knowledge and takes the responsibility for that Blocks Plugin Tasks at the Scratch Wikis. The only persons I know who, could have the knowledge are user:blob8108 and user:JSO but as I understand it, they would not like to take the responsibility, so we must find somebody else who will build up the knowledge (must know something about Javascript and Wiki-Administration). Who?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:58, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I found out how to edit the Blocks Plugin so it works for a specific language. It's in fact very easy. I tested it with the dutch wiki and it worked. Which wikis still need the Blocks Plugin? Japanese, Hungarian and Russian? - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 17:18, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Dmith our russian Wiki Admin suggested to make a topic about this in the Advanced Topics to ask for help. What do you think? Who would like to create such a topic? - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 14:27, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
I think that's a good idea, specially to find help from outside the wiki, perhaps by the scratch team or advanced programmer who want to join and help us. Who is able to invest some time to modarare this? I think the best candidate would be one sysop/admin of the international Wikis (see de:WikiWatch) because of the direct access to the plugin. Who of you is interested?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 10:41, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
I've also talked about it with P110 and he'll check it ou. So maybe let's wait till SC on monday :) - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 13:24, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes Done - the articles have been created.
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11:53, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Can I move this to an archive? It's done.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 15:49, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, it should be archived.
Millie S.jpeg Millie S (talk|934 contribs|directory) 01:26, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── It will be archived next time the CP is archived (though do mention it once it's time, I'll probably forget)
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02:38, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Things We have to Do

  • ST, please change the forum BBCode [wiki].
  • Yes DoneAdmins of international Scratch Wiki, please change the interwikis!
  • maybe Yes Done PyWikiBot owner in ALL INTERNATIONAL WIKIS, please check the "family file" again! This is placed at "/pywikibot/families/(family name).py". Change the domain to "en.scratch-wiki.info" and the version to 1.28.3
  • Yes Done Bot Owner of this wiki, please check things like above.


Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,905edit 12:43, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

On the main site, the footer link needs to be changed too (and on this site). :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:23, 17 February 2018 (CET)
You could just ping Ernie on Discord
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,172)) 18:45, 18 February 2018 (CET)
Yes Doneall fixed
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