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Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Updated the list as the author.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 14:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Logging server faults

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See dedicated subpage
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Please make an article for making the painter's 3D algothrim

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It's so non-laggy and high quality But the worst things are:

1. I can't write an article for it because it's too long to build

2. Even if I was able to make it, I don't know how to make the painter's 3D algothrim

PenguinLover1123 (talk | contribs) 22:18, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

PenguinLover1123 (talk | contribs) 16:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Can you elaborate on what you mean by "painter's 3D algorithm"
ContourLines Logo.png ContourLines [ Talk ~ Contributions ~ Directory ] 10:11, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Proposal: Create a citation template specifically for archives and web link, maybe running a bot for archiving links

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Hi folks, I've been thinking about the possibility of standardization for more citations. The wiki has {{Cite post}} already, but not an uniform scheme for external links or archives, which could be easily done with a template.

  • As another idea separate from the above, I think that there would be a bot that archives/looks to the archives and puts the archived link into template. That would probably require more extensive and exhaustive work which wouldn't be worth for this wiki, but also would help to not have link rots and keep us off from tedious archiving.

What do you think about it?
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
17:15, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

The Wiki now has (beta) dark theme!

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The Wiki interface now has a dark theme! This theme is still in beta - expect issues. You can enable it in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. Please report any issues you encounter on this CP topic or in the Wiki forum topic.

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Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:11, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Formalizing policy on second person

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Hi everyone,

This Wiki, with a few exceptions, does not allow use of second person in articles. In most cases I agree with this, but I think at some points we reach a point where losing clarity and/or directness to achieve this level of formality. Therefore, I propose that we have a few exceptions:

In think in all of these, it is more important to be clear and direct rather than formal. Especially in the first two categories listed above, it is important that the article speak directly to the user. In the end, the most important goal of the Wiki is to provide information Scratchers need.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:56, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

I think that it is merely a "guideline" which is accepted by the most of community and commonly enforced, but I hesitate from calling it as a "policy" which shall be enforced very strictly on all pages. I mostly agree about de-personification but at least some of the FAQ and how-to pages should be second-person due to their own nature.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
18:21, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
I think this is partially already in effect. S:GUIDES states:
Never use first person ("I", "we", "let's") and avoid second person ("you", "your") as much as possible, unless the entire article is a tutorial, in which case it should still be used sparingly.
S:EC states:
In tutorials, use "you" only when giving instructions to the user. For other content within a tutorial article (such as explaining a concept but not giving direct instructions on how to apply it), follow the rule above and avoid using "you".

In FAQ articles, only use "you" inside the FAQ box - in extra content, refrain from using "you".

That said, I think it may be a good idea to add more direct exceptions along the lines of what you have stated. I agree that we should value providing clear and understandable information over unnecessary formality in most cases. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 08:05, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Categorizing Redirects

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Categorizing redirects makes them easier for others to find them and such templates would describe the redirects. The meta-template would be:

  • [[:Category:{{{category}}}|{{{1}}}]]: This is a redirect {{{2}}}.

CodeLearnerSai (talk | contribs) 01:46, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

If you just want a list of redirects, we already have that built in to MediaWiki. I also don't really see any benefit to having categories of redirects.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:03, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
I think that categorizing by the reasons of redirects or adding an explanation with a template would be useful to find out what are those redirects and their reasons.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
05:31, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

New page "Bitwise Operators"

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It's not particularly necessary however I feel like a page touching on bitwise operators and their workarounds would be a nice addition to the wiki. I'm not completely sure on the practicality or general use of the page however and I want advice on whether I should try to create it or not. I've noticed a lot of more obscure pages such as heap though I want to know your thoughts. Thanks!

Virus6120 (talk | contribs) 04:39, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

The topic is an interesting one, except how is it directly related to Scratch? The article you mentioned (heap), isn’t “obscure”, as the topic mentioned could be very useful when regarding lists. (there’s even a script you can use provided)
Wangat logo.png wangat talkcontribsprofile 14:13, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
@wangat: It needn't to be directly related to Scratch (at least per my interpretation, but there are examples), it can be related to the programming languages or computer science in general for being included in the Scratch Wiki. For example, we have a page for tutorials about different languages, and a separate category for the computer science. Other than that, I actually think that we'd also have a page about pointers, which would be useful (even if it doesn't make sense in Scratch at all).
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
15:34, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
Note: In addition to what I've said before, we already have {{Third-party}} to differentiate what is directly related to Scratch and what isn't.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
15:47, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
That is sort of my line of thinking; I've noticed the Scratch Wiki also hosts general articles about programming that aren't directly related to Scratch. Plus, there are cases where I actually need bitwise operators for algorithms and such (implementing AES encryption in Scratch, don't know why I tried), and I believe they're versatile enough that they would be useful in a lot of cases.
Virus6120 (talk | contribs) 16:33, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
sha2 my guys ;)
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,234)) 17:23, 17 January 2022 (UTC)


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The page [1] has some visual problems. The link "Scratch" in the description is colored very similarly to the background. Also, the wiki logos are on a dark background, which makes some parts unreadable. For example, the "wiki" in the English wiki logo does not have a border, which means it is difficult to see. Also, the Dutch wiki logo has background removal mistakes which are easily seen. Could this page be improved to remove these problems?
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 23:28, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I agree with you on the first point; the link does seem very similar to the background. I don't think it necessarily needs to be changed, however.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 15:07, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you're seeing, but for me, the header is purple, the link to "Scratch" is blue, and the wiki logos are on a white background. What device are you using?
Wangat logo.png wangat talkcontribsprofile 16:55, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
@Wangat Not sure if this is directed to me, but yes, you are correct. They just mean that the blue link looks fairly similar to the purple header.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 17:15, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
@Filmlover12: I was asking CrazyBoy826, but I suppose it could’ve been for you as well. However, I switched devices to my phone (rather than my laptop) and the page shows up as is described in the OP.
Wangat logo.png wangat talkcontribsprofile 17:20, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
This probably happens because I am using dark mode and the website did not specify a background color, so it defaulted to black.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 23:19, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
Adding a background color to the CSS should fix this.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 23:10, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Yes, it has a bad contrast ratio of 2.21 which makes the link color appear similar to the background color for colorblind people. The header link's color should be changed to #d3f0ff, and the interwiki links at the bottom's color should be changed to #0074b5. Really wish someone would fix this.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   06:20, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Add info about Snap! 7.1

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Snap! 7.1 has just been released and it may be a good idea to add info about it. (I don't feel ready to do an edit this big)
SuperMarioHome (talk | contribs) 15:40, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

New Election System Proposal

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Hello! In the most recent Experienced Wikian election, there were only two candidates: myself and Jammum. Due to this, the admins at the time decided not to use Borda count system (in which candidates are ranked from favorite to least favorite), and instead did a more simple way of voting.

Basically, you could vote for either candidate (or, choose not to vote for either) and vote if you approved the candidate(s). If the candidates had 50% or more of a support vote, then they were elected EW.

I feel like this way of voting doesn't pit candidates against eachother and create rivalries over who'll get the higher number of points since voters can abstain from voting for one candidate or the other (or both, I suppose); each candidate is focused more on themselves, rather then their opponent.

To get to my point, I feel like that, if/when the Wiki administration decides to have another election, we should use this new system, not the Borda one, no matter the number of candidates.

Of course, the Borda system does have its ups when there are many candidates; however, I think a mix of the two might be helpful to the administration in the future (possibly requiring all voters to vote for each candidate, and maybe increasing the minimun support percent to 60 or 75%). Any thoughts?
Wangat logo.png wangat talkcontribsprofile 22:13, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

The reason we normally have an election using the Borda count system is we want to limit the number of Experienced Wikians, as the more we have the harder it is to coordinate, and the saying goes "too many cooks spoil the broth." We used the confidence system this time because we only had two selected to run (we wanted two), so there was no issue of adding too many. Unfortunately, I think some amount of pitting candidates against each other is inevitable if we want to achieve the result of not having too many EWs. That being said, we are open to potential alternative voting strategies that still ensure we avoid having too many EWs elected (for reference, we usually want two per election).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:57, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
Fair point. :)
Wangat logo.png wangat talkcontribsprofile 20:35, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
I have an idea on this topic. Why not have polling system. This is only for 3 and more. In this a person can only vote 2 people. 1 person will be voted 1 who the person wants the second most and 2nd will be voted 2 and it is first preference and as you are electing 1-2 people then count which person has most points will be EW. Through this there are pretty less chances of many people being elected
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 11:09, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Reference previews

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The reference previews are not displaying for some reason. I remember that when I hovered on a number, it showed the preview for it. Was it changed to not display preferences or I have some settings turned off?
JackyBorderCollie (talk | contribs) 07:55, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Suggestion: Rule page for welcome templates

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If it is considered necessary, I think a page on rules on custom welcome templates could be created. Some things it could mention include the 5 welcome templates maximum per talk page, that users should think that they know enough about Wiki contributing to state that they can help users on talk pages, and possibly less likely (although covered by the Wiki guidelines as well), using proper spelling and grammar in welcome templates.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:19, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

I support this. We already indicate in the userspace policy that only five are allowed, I think it's reasonable to have more fleshed out rules to ensure that these give a fitting welcome to the Wiki.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:46, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
I have some objections.
First of all, I don't think that limiting the amount of welcome templates on the talk page is very helpful, in order to encourage users to edit more, unless requested by the user. While the users definitely should not only limit their contributions with non-mainspace edits for continuously maintaining the wiki, I don't see any harm if users also focuses outside of the mainspace. And, in my opinion, this also keeps the wiki thriving because the people find a reason to check the wiki - and hence not cutting their ties with the wiki.
However, if there'd be a guideline (like how Bigpuppy led about standardizing signatures before) to standardize welcome templates (i.e those shouldn't be too flashy, shouldn't cover the whole page, etc.), or maybe listing some suggestions as common sense (for example not posting too much templates at the same time); then that would be nice indeed.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
18:51, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Encourage user talk page topics that only say hello to go on Scratch profiles instead

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I think that user talk page topics where users only say hello (except welcome templates and messages) should go on users' Scratch profiles, as I think they are not very Wiki-related, might be a very broad and/or generic topic, and they take a very short amount of time to write.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 10:55, 21 February 2022 (UTC) modified 16:24, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

You are free to do this on your own talk page if you wish, but I personally don't see any problem with messages that simply say "hello." We allow non-wiki-related messages on user talk pages. The Scratch Wiki is a community, and sometimes people in our community wish to greet each other for no reason other than to be friendly. I don't see why they should be required to go to a separate website to be able to do that. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 15:52, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
This talk page contains a long streak of messages (the users who posted them all joined the wiki after I became EW) that only say hello. I think these could be more convenient to the user and keeping the talk page more wiki-related or formal if those messages went on Scratch profiles instead.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:56, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
Like bigpuppy said, you can enforce it on your own page, but unless it becomes spammy I see no reason to do it for all talk pages.
78ch3ProfilePic.png 78ch3 : [My talk] | [|Contribs] | [|Main] 02:50, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
Yes Support. It could be very annoying for some users when it gets spammy and makes it hard to focus on more important discussions about the wiki than random greetings. However, if a user was blocked on Scratch or can't access Scratch, saying "Hi" and not making it look spammy is still reasonable since they probably just want to interact with people.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   06:25, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Replacing file in Contents

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Another file (File:TOC website.png) can be replaced by the vector version (File:TOC website.svg). The file dimensions will need to be specified and padding needs to be added below to make the image align with the other contents items (test at User:CrazyBoy826/Scratch Wiki Home.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 01:08, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

That image looks much worse than the png, so for the time being replace it with File:TOC website 3.0.png.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 22:05, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
I'd argue the svg looks better, it just also looks more obviously different. I'd say this is probably something that needs discussion, though, so I've moved it here.
Those joining us on the CP: Which of the three images linked above looks better? And is it worth changing?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
00:50, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
I think the File:TOC website 3.0.png looks better
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 11:46, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
I would say that File:TOC website 3.0.png looks better so I would say change it.
Adzboy (talk | contribs) 06:38, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Tip of the Day

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The Tip of the Day project was started some time ago. I think it is a very good idea, but not much work has been done on it. It will take a very long time before we have 366 tips (one for each day of the year).

Instead of having that many tips, we can start with the tips we have and randomly post one on Scratch Wiki Home each day. There are already enough tips to start doing this. Having the tips on Scratch Wiki Home will also encourage more editors to add tips. (At User:CrazyBoy826/Scratch Wiki Home, there is a version of the home page with a section for tips.)

Instead of having one tip for each day of the year, we can have a human (or bot) randomly select one of the tips to be posted on the home page (similar to how News works). This will encourage more editors to suggest tips that we can post later.

Thoughts and suggestions?
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 19:10, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I currently believe this is a good idea as I think it would be a useful addition to the homepage. Just one question, would the tips be related to articles on the Wiki? For example, a tip about using a certain type of block and having a link to that block's page on the Wiki.
Adzboy (talk | contribs) 19:22, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
The tips would have links, but they would not necessarily be related to individual articles. See User:Bigpuppy/Tip of the Day for more information.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 00:17, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
Ah, ok then. Yes Support
Adzboy (talk | contribs) 06:48, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
I think this is a good way to bring back tip of the day without too much extra work Yes Support  
Godslamb (talk | contribs) 15:54, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
Nice idea, I support. There are only 365 days and there are 2 type of tips and also there can be enough tips for 365 days soon but why not start with putting 1 tip for a week? and once we get enough tips we can start with the original plan of a new tip everyday and Bigpuppy itself update the homepage maybe. We can first check all tips in both scratch and scratch wiki tip of the day sections and delete the duplicates. We can use the same tips which display there 1st on the project page.
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs)
This seems like a great way for Scratchers to learn new (albeit possibly not useful) things. Yes Support
NFlex23's wiki icon.png NFlex23 (Talk106 ContribsScratch) 11:44, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
Yes Support
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 07:06, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Outdate template

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I found 1 outdated template (Template:Forums). Can I update it?
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 10:38, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

What part of the template would you like to update? Everything looks okay to me.
Wangat logo.png wangat talkcontribsprofile 13:09, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
The All about scraych forum in archived forums and a few more forums which no longer exist so I would like to move then to archived forums area.
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 08:32, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
Yes. I see it. My prototype (omitting the noinclude section):

Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 18:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
I will add it with all about scratch in archived forums section.
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 11:39, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

The Things To Do Issue(No things to Do)

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The issue is that it links. Community Portal Not Done. And there are a few/no things to do Potential Solutions:

  • Make 2 versions of S:CPND (1 for discussions, 1 for things to do)
  • Make 2 versions of S:CPND (Make Things To Do link to a page that is a list of things to do (possibly transuding/linking serval categories (Pages to Improve, and others).
  • A Things To Do category

Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs)

Should I make a page about wrgsfhwbxvb?

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I know gibberish is considered not related to scratch, but this is a username of the first person to join scratch. So technically this is related to scratch. But the other question is that is being the first to join scratch an exception of users with pages that don't have wiki accounts?
Mr-Argon (talk | contribs) 17:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC)Mr-Argon

wrgsfhwbxvb is mentioned in other articles, but I do not think it is notable enough to have its own separate article.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 18:02, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Formatting Issue

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I had made a template called {{User:Vdiu/UserpageLogo}} and when I used it on my wiki profile, the formatting extended to all the text under the template. How do I make the formatting only stay within the template?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile

To fix this, you need to close HTML tags. For example, if there is a <span> tag, it needs to have a corresponding </span> tag.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 14:40, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
Where do I put the span Tags?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 09:35, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia link template

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Many pages would benefit from a visible box with a link to Wikipedia articles. This would be similar to wikipedia:Template:Wiktionary, which has a box on the right with a link. For example, Solving Exponents could have a link to wikipedia:Exponent. Is this a good idea?
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 23:32, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Maybe, as long as the article can actually benefit from having it.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 05:28, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
I think it really depends on the article and the corresponding Wikipedia article. The pages we use it on would have to benefit from the addition for it to be useful.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 16:52, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Abuse filter not working

The abuse filter that stops users from uploading images without a category does not seem to be working, as a user uploaded an image without putting on a category.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 22:38, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Odd, doesn't the ignore warnings button let you do that? I've never actually used it so I don't know how it works.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 08:06, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
The ignore warning button does not ignore this edit filter. The filter seems to be working now, but earlier today, 3 non-EWs somehow uploaded files without any comment.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 01:19, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
I'm not quite sure what's going on there then.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 05:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

All tutorials?

In the scripting tutorial section with 129 or 128 tutorials in it, I noticed a tutorial on making a tycoon game isn't on the scripting tutorial category and I'm not talking about with a gubo on it I mean the updated list of tutorials so anyway I can have a list of every single scratch wiki tutorial without 1 missing?

TonGames (talk | contribs) 20:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)TonGames
TonGames (talk | contribs) 20:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Tycoon Projects is categorized as a project type. However, most of it is a tutorial, so that part could be split into a new article.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 22:22, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Community Portal Not Done is very large

The Community Portal Not Done page is very big (240,679 bytes.)(I do not know if that is too big) We could make some discussions subpages. Here are the biggest topics: We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach":45,702 bytes Relax S:NOSP even more:45,553 bytes I could not find anything else nearly that big.
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 00:40, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

The Not Done page is very long, but I don't think putting the discussions on subpages would benefit the page. It is easy enough to edit, as there are edit buttons on every section, and placing discussions on separate pages would make it harder for users to reply. (also, separating discussions would not reduce page load times)
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 02:06, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Template anonymous parameters don't work if they contain inline css

I just noticed that template arguments don't work with inline css. But i ran into an issue: Inline css makes the parameter act like it was not set. Here is the that is the parameter:<div style="color:red">Red Text</div>. And it works! The output is

Red Text

But as soon as I put a template around it:{{scratchwikiframe|title|<div style="color:red">Red Text</div>}}


The text does not work! Removing the style makes the expected result, but without the styling
(code:{{scratchwikiframe|title|<div>Text</div>}}) resulting in


It does work if you use number = before the parameter:
{{scratchwikiframe|title|2=<div style="color:red">Red Text</div>}}

Red Text

Can someone please explain?
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 16:43, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Possible new TOC Design (or just better way to have multiple columns)

I have made a (possible) new design using scratchwikiframe. Or we can just use the new grid css so it uses the entire width. You can View them here and here.
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 00:11, 8 June 2022 (UTC)


Yes Resolved (since 06:21, 14 September 2022 (UTC))

Hi, I've just made a Welcome Template so I was wondering - how do you know when a new wikian joins?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 14:10, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Check recent changes or the user creation log.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 15:40, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
Where are those?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile
Recent Changes and New users. In addition, please remember to sign your posts with 4 tiles ~~~~ in future.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 16:12, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I've made the template and stuff, but there is one glitch - the border envelops all other posts under it. Can someone look at the Welcome Template and tell me the glitch?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 11:01, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes Done The 'enveloping' glitch was probably fixed around June 20th on the OP's welcome template.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:21, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Problem with list of curators article.

In this article, the list of future curators is out of date. Past curators are still being shown on this list. As of today, two past curators and the current curator are still shown. I have raised this issue before, and it has been fixed but it looks like it is a recurring problem.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 16:40, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

I have now updated the list of future curators on its page, but I cannot update the full list. Is it protected? Perhaps a bot could auto update this list otherwise it will be forgotten.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 16:46, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
Sorry, I made a mistake in my previous post. The list is updated by bots but the sub-page(Sorry if that's not the correct term) has to still be updated by users.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 16:49, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
@jvvg is the owner, sole manager, and host (in a RPi) of the bot, WikiMonitor, that is designated to properly update pages. On any inquiries, problems, dysfunction and bug reports; please contact with the aforementioned user. There's nothing much that the rest of Wiki can do.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
22:00, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
The list if past curators is automatically updated, but the list of future curators isn't and it isn't really possible to do so since it's not just reading a bit of JSON from the API endpoint for front page data. The most I would be able to do is remove the current curator from that list when they become curators, but we would still need humans to refresh it with new ones.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

The current logo on the scratch wiki homepage's resolution is low. Apart from that, the scratch cat in that image is acutally a old one and there are no outlines for his body parts. I suggest it should be replaced with this:
TOC website image.svg
This image is a almost exact copy of File:TOC_website.png, exept it's resolution is higher. If you zoom in the old one, you see lots of pixels but if you zoom in this one there are no pixels seen. Also, the Scratch Cat outlines are seen, making it more sharp and detailed.
My suggestion is to replace the old one with this.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 08:45, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

I still prefer the current one though, just make the current one have a higher resolution.
link:User:Starhero5697 Starhero5697 Talk 227 Contributions and counting Scratch Profile 03:08, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
I like this logo better, because it's design is more modern. The shading on the current Scratch Wiki logo looks unnatural on the glode and the cat in my opinion.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   04:31, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
@Starhero5697, there are no outlines in the current one. This one shows the outlines bolder. Also, I'm not the only ome who has attempted to make the logo better. CrazyBoy826 has also made a logo for the wiki.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 04:55, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
I agree, we could do with these improvements to the image. I think something like the SVG image you just showed us would be better.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 05:36, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
Should we use this or this? I think we should use this because it is closer to the current image. The other one has a different globe in the background.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 06:17, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I think the one you uploaded (This one) is best.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 16:08, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

I think none of these but a higher resolution of the current one as it is the logo of the wiki not of scratch. or atleast keep the logo just like the current jigsaw puzzle and just change the scratch cat face and also make the resolution higher because you need to change the side bar as well.
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 05:28, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
For some reason I like the second one better, but the first one looks more professional.
link:User:Starhero5697 Starhero5697 Talk 227 Contributions and counting Scratch Profile 06:21, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
Purvitekriwal, we aren't talking about the Scratch Wiki logo. We're talking about the one in the left box in the Table of Contents.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 07:49, 16 July 2022 (UTC)
I have updated the image. Please let me know if anything looks off.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:24, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
First, the Scratch Cat's mouth looks unnatural because its outline thickness is lower than the other outlines, and it is slightly tilted. Second, Scratch Cat has thick outlines, but the globe doesn't even have outlines at all, which makes the image looks inconsistent and drawn by two different people. Honestly, I liked the older one.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   04:07, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @jvvg, the TOC image is not only on the front page. It is also on these pages:
Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Forum Categories
Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Forum Categories/1.4
Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Forum General
Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Forums
Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Front Page
Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Front Page/1.4
Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Website General
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 10:53, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

@-iviedwall-, the old one's outlines look even more unnatural, this one looks slightly more natural.
link:User:Starhero5697 Starhero5697 Talk 227 Contributions and counting Scratch Profile 10:53, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
I have fixed the Scratch Cat's mouth.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 23:02, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
Looks good!
link:User:Starhero5697 Starhero5697 Talk 227 Contributions and counting Scratch Profile 06:59, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
I removed the old image's usage on every page excpet for the User namespace. I feel like this problem is resolved.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   11:43, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
@starhero5697 I kinda agree with you now.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   11:43, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Give the navigation box, tools box and for editors box the position: fixed; property

This would help a lot. For example, if I'm at the bottom of the community portal, I have to scroll all the way up to purge it. But is the boxes had the position: fixed; property they would stay in one place.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 02:44, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

I agree that this should be added. It's really annoying having to scroll all the way up.
link:User:Starhero5697 Starhero5697 Talk 227 Contributions and counting Scratch Profile 11:23, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
I agree, this would make navigation more convenient. Now this isn't implemented yet, so you have to add this:
.left {
    position: sticky; /* Sticky is better than fixed because it doesn't overlap the footer ig */
    top: 0;
into your CSS page. Hope this helps.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   03:34, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Oh. That works pretty well, but I still think it should be set as a default as not many people (Me, as a example) know what a CSS page is.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 11:56, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
Btw, I found the page for Wiki CSS: MediaWiki:Common.css
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   09:14, 5 August 2022 (UTC)

Is there a way to count the number of times a page has been viewed?

 Unresolved (see all...)

Suppose, there is a rick roll page and I want to count the number of times it has been seen. How do I do that?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 02:53, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

I know the test Wiki shows that at the bottom of the page. I don't think that's in effect on this Wiki though. Look at the small text at the bottom of test:User:Adzboy.
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 08:43, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Weirdly enough, there's no way to count pageviews for the English Wiki but it is totally possible to count with magic word in Test Wiki. The difference can also be seen from their respective Special:Version pages, where the Test wiki has "numberofpageviews" parameter in Parser function hooks (used for magic words) whereas the English wiki doesn't. So {{NUMBEROFPAGEVIEWS}} is a totally valid way to display view count in the Test wiki but not in English wiki.
I guess it has to do with the fact that the Test wiki displaying view count at the bottom of pages, but more investigation is required about why does that happen in Test wiki-only, even though they're at the same shared server and sharing almost same codebase. I guess it is because of an extension but I need to verify my thesis. Will look at it tomorrow.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
17:57, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
Apparently the English Wiki used to have {{NUMBEROFVIEWS}}, but it was removed.
CrazyBoy826 icon.png CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,228 edits | Scratch 19:05, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
(Edit conflict with CrazyBoy826) Looks like Test wiki has HitCounters extension which adds back the magic word removed in 1.25. A relevant extension is PageViewInfo, which gives out a fancier interface. Any requests for installation of extensions should probably go to here, not Admin Requests (the task isn't simple, nor does something that admins can do. only bcrats with ftp access - i.e. server backend access - can do that), but I've also privately informed some bcrats as well.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:15, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
@CrazyBoy, do you have any idea of what the content of the template was?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 11:47, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
@Vdiu: While their syntax is similar to those of templates, they are not triggered by a template - they're called as magic words, which are embedded in software itself for triggering the software directly via creating hooks. Think like directing lights into a solar panel with a button you have pressed in, on which in turn solar panel would give out electricity as feedback. So, it's not really possible to create them via templates, they can be only done with extensions.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:50, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Oh. So they're coded in HTML?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 16:04, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── No, not completely. All of the calculations and processing are done on backend, mostly in a programming language called as PHP (or Hypertext Preprocessor :P) for MediaWiki and its extensions. Only the output is in HTML so that your browser can understand it easily.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:30, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

September Featured Images

Yes Resolved (since 05:05, 13 September 2022 (UTC))

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for September. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below. Please also include an explanation for why you think the image(s) that you suggest should be featured.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many... :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 23:26, 2 August 2022 (UTC)

Cool! I'll have a look around :)
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 12:33, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
How about File:Direction selector.png or File:Account settings.png?
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 12:35, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
How 'bout File:SDS list.png?
link:User:Starhero5697 Starhero5697 Talk 227 Contributions and counting Scratch Profile 13:12, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
Special:Random/File can also be used to find files.
How about File:BitmapTools 2.0.png, File:1.0 motion.png or File:Featured Studios.png?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 15:36, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
How about File:Layering_Paint.png. It seems like a very interesting image showcasing what the vector paint editor can do. A great conversation starter really!
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  02:53, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
What about this?
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:38, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Yes Updated. Thanks everyone for all the great suggestions! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 05:05, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Variable preview

 Unresolved (see all...)

In the editor, scratch blocks don't preview. Instead, you see the code for the blocks. I'm not the only one who is facing this issue, TenType has faced it as well.
Vdiu (talk | contribs) 16:05, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

This is a known issue. I have attempted a solution but so far haven't gotten a working one.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:46, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

Create a Page Expansion Invitation System

This would be similar to the Discussion Invitation System, but only, it would be for inviting people to expand pages. I know this might sound like it's not needed, because there is already Category:Articles to Expand, but no one sees this much. There are almost a 100 pages in this category, so obviously not many people are seeing this category.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 16:10, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

I actually think that a "pages that should be created" list would be useful too. With such, the people would get motivated to write more new articles.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
18:46, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
@ahmetlii I think that would be a good idea. The only issue is what sort of articles could actually be included, as there are not many more articles as such to create.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 18:57, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
I feel like that it the issue with missing articles. It is hard to find the last few pages that are needed, like it is hard to take the last few impurities from water. I also feel like the invitation system should only be used if needed in a hurry (rush/emergency), like for current effects or if it is linked from a featured article or image/wiki Wednesday.
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 02:05, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
@Ideapad-320 Yes Good idea. There should also be a list of people who are free so they can respond quickly in an emergency. But I feel like this system would be rarely used then, like once or twice a year to create pages for special events like April Fools Day that will be gone in a few days.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   06:00, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
@ahmetlii, good idea. but the problem is - how are we going to get people to look at the list?
@-iviedwall-, well, the system will be in use until all 100 pages in Category:Articles to Expand are expanded. After that, we can see.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:12, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
@Vdiu I kind of feel like the emergency thing needs to always be there to create new pages and sections for special activities and news.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   11:16, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
@Filmlover12: You're quite right about it, but even if any active user would put an article per year, that would make at least 20 articles. And I think there are many, many things that conform to the existing Wiki rules but waiting to be documented. Even the calls and functions inside 3.0 might worth documented: we have many articles about Squeak function calls but not much about Scratch VM (Though JA wiki made some good ones as far as I've understood).
@Vdiu: good question. Most of the people don't even notice Special:WantedPages so I am quite suspicious about it as well. There might be something fancy like "Create-A-Page Marathon" for a certain period so that the people would be more willing to contribute on something. There might be also like a monthly cooperation project with different themes each month (like expanding stubs, translating missing articles from other wikis or vice versa - namely, DE and JP, this would also motivate some bilingual or multilingual users that knows the language as well; or creating pages on a certain topic - say, Forums).
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:04, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Now this discussion has a lot of words, so I guess I'll clear this up.
Legend: item - idea, subitem - point, tick - pro, cross - con

  • Create a page expansion invitation system
    • Should only be used if needed in a rush or an emergency
  • Create a "pages that should be created" list
    •  What sort of pages could be included?
    • No It's hard to find the last few pages that are needed
    •  How to get people to look at the list?
  • Create a list of people who accepts page expansion invitations
    • Will be in use until all articles are expanded
  • Host a "Create-A-Page" Marathon

bruh edit conflict
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   11:16, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

For "It's hard to find the last few pages that are needed", it is good to write your good page idea down rather than forget, and that is a benefit.
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 16:19, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
@Ahmetlii Hey, that's a pretty good idea.
BTW do you have any nickname because I keep misspelling your username.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 10:46, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
very late reply, wish there would be ping extension installed
@Vdiu: Just say "Ahmet" then?
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
15:47, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! August 25th, 2022

Welcome to the 40th Thankful Thursday! August 25th, 2022.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
smrman (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for helping me with namespaces in Test Scratch Wiki when I was confused with redirects...
    Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 10:49, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Jammum (talk | contribs)
KangaCoder (talk | contribs)
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
Ametz807 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for making necessary edits to the Wiki. Almost all of your edits have been to mainspace, which is something you don't see very often. I hope you continue to be an active contributor to the wiki because you have already helped massively.
    Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 18:46, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The next TT is, September 29th, 2022 see you then!
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
10:52, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 09:07, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikicode turning into arrows (Example: <br/>)

I was typing <br, a slash and a "greater than" symbol in nowiki tags, but then the last two characters turned into an arrow emoji in the preview. It has been there for a while but because it seems like I'm the only one who noticed this so I posted this glitch here. Even if it's intentional, I really expect someone to stop making it turn into arrows because it really annoys me for some reason. Would like to see your opinion on this.
IviedwallUserIcon (circle).png -iviedwall-  talk contributions 🐱   13:55, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

What operating system/browser are you using? It does not affect me (Chrome on Windows 10), I think your autocorrect is causing this problem.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:16, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
Strange, this isn't happening to me (Chrome on ChromeOS).
UserIconAdzboy.png AdzboyTalkContributionsScratch Profile 09:10, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

Scratch 1.4 Block Plugin

Yes Resolved (since 19:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC))

Could we have a Scratch 1.4 style block plugin to display blocks on here like they were 1.x? It seems like it existed in the past on the old forums and got updated to 2.0 blocks. Now we have both 3.0 and 2.0 plugins, so why not 1.0 also? edit: oops I didnt sign, I haven't used the wiki in a while and I can only make 1 edit per 180 seconds.
Miniepicness (talk | contribs) 23:53, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

But nowadays, we need no use of 1.x plugin blocks. Although if someone needs to post 1.x bloxks on the forums they can go to Web archive and go to Scratch 1.x date and then create the script then take a screenshot then put it into CubeUpload to post it then you can post (phew, that is longgg process, also put this in the Suggestions forum, instead of putting it here, because the Scratch Team hasn't bulit the Wiki, a scratcher did.)
Aneri9714 Cat.png Áńéŕí9714 Talk Contributions Scratch Profile ‖ 11:27, 1 September 2022 (UTC)
We have decided it isn't worth the effort to integrate the 1.x blocks plugin, given that 1.x blocks look similar enough to 2.0 blocks. Additionally the 1.x plugin has some notable issues, in particular it doesn't render boolean blocks properly (it renders them with round edges like reporter blocks instead of with a hexagon shape). In general use the 2.0 blocks and it will look fine, and if it's super important to look pixel-for-pixel like 1.x, then take a screenshot.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:01, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

CSS Page Rules

What are the rules upon using CSS pages as an autoprotected page for note keepinf and whatnot? Do you have to ONLY allowed to have CSS in it?
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 22:07, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

What do you mean by it being a autoprotected page? Do you mean Mediawiki:common.css, or your own css page? For you second question, yes, but you can only have text likethis- /* text you want */ but if you want to put templates, no. You can only have code on your Css page.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:30, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Does the page have to be called common.css?
What I've seen in the past was css pages will always be protected, so only the user whose userpage it's on (and admins+) can edit it.
I assume this means User:Han614698/background-color.css is breaking rules, AND won't work, even if I add code?
May I please have a link to a CSS reference page?
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 20:58, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
Here you go.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
22:00, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
The page doesn't need to be called common.css, but it does need to have '.css'. Also, your background color css doesn't break rules, just 'WIP, not done yet, I'm developing code offsite and will add it later.' should be shown like '/*WIP, not done yet, I'm developing code offsite and will add it later.*/'.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 09:52, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
How do you make it connected to some specific userpages of yours?
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 21:28, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Do you mean a CSS page only applying to one page or a setting only applying to one page?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 09:39, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

First one.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 19:41, 11 September 2022 (UTC)
Ok, I think this is how you would do it.
Put the specific page as a subpage (If it's already a subpage, make another subpage otherwise it will got to all pages under the first subpage. Suppose you subpage is 'User:han614698/Specific CSS' you have to move as 'User:han614698/MSTW/Specific CSS' If you want it to only go to that page). Then, put
.rootpage-User:han614698, .rootpage-MSTW #content {
And put your code underneath.

According to me, this should work, if it doesn't, maybe ask -iviedwall-. She's good at that stuff.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 11:32, 12 September 2022 (UTC)


This has already been discussed at Talk:Mute#Should we include "automodmute"?, but that discussion hasn't got much attention. We could add a warning under a 'AUTOMODMUTE' section in Mute, saying 'Don't type Automodmute. It will result in a mute, and the Filterbot will get clogged.'
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 12:22, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

I think it should not be included so users do not test 'automodmude' and actually get muted or flood Scratch Team mute logs.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:51, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
The Scratch Team has issued alerts to people posting it excessively and it wastes their time by adding to the filter logs they need to check (limiting their ability to look for actual bad behavior the filter caught). There isn't really any educational value to including it in my opinion, but it likely will lead to users posting in comments it to see what happens. For that reason, I think it's best we don't include it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:44, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

My CSS page

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On my CSS page, I tried to set the background-color to a light blue. It worked, but now it stopped working. How do I fix it?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 11:16, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

You're missing the closing curly bracket "}" for "html, body, #content".
Mrcomputer1 (talk | contribs) 10:45, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Thanks, it worked!
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 11:11, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

JS Pages

Sorry I'm posting here too much, but what is the point of JS pages? Where can they run? Can they run? What are their limits?
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 01:07, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Assuming you are talking about user JS pages (like User:Username/common.js or User:Username/(skin name).js), they are basically the same as user CSS pages, just for JS instead of CSS. They run on all pages you visit on the wiki except for a few pages they are disabled on, like Special:Preferences and Special:Login. As far as I know, beyond the few disabled pages, there aren't any limits.
Mrcomputer1 (talk | contribs) 10:37, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
Do all your js pages run on all pages you visit? What are some examples of things that they can do?
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 11:09, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
No, only "common.js" (runs on all skins) and "(skin name).js" (only runs when you are using the skin specified) will run automatically on pages you visit. To run other JS pages, you must load them from a JS page that is automatically run (like common.js). An example of a useful thing you can do is canned edit summaries (an example of that is kenny2scratch's Canned Edit Summaries script (script source code)).
Mrcomputer1 (talk | contribs) 12:05, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

October Featured Images

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Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for October. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below. Please also include an explanation for why you think the image(s) that you suggest should be featured.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many... :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 05:07, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

My apologies for the delay in updating the featured images this month!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 05:07, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
I suggest File:Community Statistics bar on Front Page.png. It's a good photo that illustrates how many users there were, and and celebrates past versions of Scratch.
I also suggest File:3.0 Scratch Website 404.png. It's a good way to show to users what happens when they see that, why they see that, and what it is.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 11:18, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

Should Scratch WIki be removed from the scratch wiki footer?

I think so. It seems kind of pointless, when you are on the scratch wiki and can just click the logo above navigation to return to the main page.
29590234_18x18.png Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 13:17, 13 September 2022 (UTC)

What if you want to go to the homepage and you're on a wiki subpage?
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 01:46, 14 September 2022 (UTC)
Good point. You have to scroll all the way up for the logo.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 11:31, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Can FAQs have AF versions?

I don't think they can, because FAQs should be viewable (correctly) all the time. This FAQ page has a AF version.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 11:40, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

think so
GatPic.png Gatgatcode ( Talk | Scratch ) 12:05, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
There is currently no rule prohibiting it. In my personal opinion I think it's fine if they do since the original is still viewable and we have a template clearly indicating that the joke answer is a joke. For example, I personally enjoy the answer for Is Scratch secure?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:10, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

How do you make a AF Userpage?

I want to make a AF Userpage, and i made it. BUT the April Fools and AF templates don't work, which means that i can't put a link that leads to the AF Page an vice versa. Does anyone know how to do this?
Jas1000 (talk | contribs) 08:44, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

You created Scratch Wiki:April Fools/User:Jas1000, which has the correct prefix of Scratch Wiki:April Fools/, and put {{AF}} at the top of it. This topic is likely Yes Done.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:55, 23 September 2022 (UTC)


Can I remove other people's messages on my userpage? I assume I can, since I can delete comments on my Scratch Profile, but I don't know. Thanks!
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talkcontribsprofile 23:23, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

You can only archive them, you can't remove them outright. Also, when archiving, you need to archive the entire thread, you can't pick and choose individual messages.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:02, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Suggestion: Updated Scratch Wiki Skin

The Scratch Wiki skin is and has been outdated for quite some time. I suggest we add a more modern skin than the current "modern" skin. :)
-unsigned comment by Dkjghfdh (talk | contribs)

The Scratch Wiki Skin is designed to as much as possible mimic the skin on the Scratch website. Is there anything specific you think should change?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:03, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

Adding the create link to the footer

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Hi, since it is confusing for new wikians to create a page, I am telling an suggestion to create pages easier by adding the edit link on the footer. It wouldn't also confuse new wikians.
Aneri9714 Cat.png Áńéŕí9714 Talk Contributions Scratch Profile ‖ 14:51, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

We already have a create link in the header, I don't think there is much need to add one to the footer. I also don't think most New Wikians are likely to look at the footer before looking at the header.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:01, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
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