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kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

March Featured Images

Done

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for March. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many...
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 04:06, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 01:58, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Note: We need to indicate that it's from Scratch 2.0 for the second image.

ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 21:05, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

leahcimto talk • contribs • profile 23:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 17:56, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 02:00, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

How do elections work?

So, I'm a bit confused about the Scratch Wiki elections. How do people vote? How is it decided when to hold them?
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

See this page for a lot more information about elections. Here is a very brief overview:

Elections are held on an as-needed basis and there is no regular schedule. The need is determined collectively by the existing EW+ by asking ourselves if the active EW+ we have now is sufficient to keep everything running smoothly or if we think we need additional people to help us out. We also bear in mind that holding an election is often a weekslong distraction from actual article editing, so we try not to have elections more often than we have to.

People vote on an external site that allows you to log in with your Wiki credentials to cast a vote. You rank the candidates from first to last, and then whichever candidate has the best average ranking wins (we usually select the top two).

When we do hold an election, we announce on the Community Portal (i.e. here) well in advance letting people know about the dates everything will happen. Then we will allow candidates to nominate themselves, and once nominations close the existing EW+ will look over the list and determine who we think should run. Then the selected candidates will write speeches, and then people will vote.

We do not have any plans to host an election in the near future.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

json Editing

Many pages have similar instructions on how to access the json inside sb3 and sprite3 files:

Page	Steps Taught
Making Invisible Code	extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
Hidden Blocks	extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
JSON Tutorial	extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
Scratch Lab#Custom Fonts	extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
Layer (value)#Viewing the Specific Layer Value	extracting, opening
How to Save a Project#Uploading a Project	extracting, opening
Exporting and Importing#Scripts	extracting, opening
Scratch File Format#Project Files	extracting

This could be simplified by using templates with instructions for each step, so maybe such templates should be created.
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 01:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! February 25^th, 2021

Welcome to the 36^th Thankful Thursday! February 25^th, 2021.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Thankful Thursday

Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User	Thanks
jvvg (talk \| contribs)	Thanks so much for the background work you do, from reviewing account requests to making sure our servers are in top shape to combating vandalism; I honestly don't know what the wiki would be without you. Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) \| contribs (658) \| directory 15:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Thanks for all of your help on the wiki Jackson49 (talk \| contribs) 04:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC) Thanks for everything you do behind the scenes on the wiki. It is amazing to look at the patrol logs and how many revisions you patrol, how many users create, and wikimonitor. Dogsmakemehappy (talk \| contribs) 18:37, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Dogsmakemehappy (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for all your help with cleaning up the grammar! jvvg (talk \| contribs) 02:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
bigpuppy (talk \| contribs)	Thanks for helping literally every wikian, the wiki wouldn't be the same without you! Ihatr (geometric_ghast) • Talk Page • 325 Contributions 22:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
4096bits (talk \| contribs)	Thanks for all of your contributions to the wiki Jackson49 (talk \| contribs) 04:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
mlcreater (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for fixing all those broken links! jvvg (talk \| contribs) 03:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

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There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-

Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

”

The next TT is, March 25^th, 2021 see you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Done

Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

How are "April Fools pages" made?

Done As that some pages have "April Fools Pages", I'm curious on making one. I am not sure how to make one. And I am curious on can I, as a new Wikian or even an Wikian, can make such a page. Do I need to be an Admin or EW? If I can make one, please inform me on the process. If I cannot, in what stage of Wikian do I have to be to make one? Thanks.
MitFieldatdawn (talk | contribs) 08:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Any user can create an April Fools page. To make one, create a subpage of Scratch Wiki:April Fools, although AF pages must be corresponding to a page on the Scratch Wiki which is not a redirect or disallowed (see the link earlier in this reply to find the link to the list).

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 09:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I also just want to add that we do have some rules for April Fools' pages (in the link in Jammum's reply), please make sure to read them before creating the page.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:47, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh, I see that. So should I do something in the title that tells people it's for "that" page?

MitFieldatdawn (talk | contribs) 08:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

At the top of every April Fools page, add the {{AF}} template on it. It will mention the corresponding article for an AF page and adds a category to those joke pages.

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 08:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thumbnail issue has been (mostly) resolved

Hi everyone,

We have had an issue for a while where large files were causing the thumbnail generator to crash. I think I have resolved the issue, and have spot-checked large files I'm aware of and they seem to have properly-generated thumbnails.

Note that the existing policies about filesize are not changing, at least for now. Files larger than 200KB and larger than 1920x1080 (or equivalent number of pixels in a different aspect ratio) will still be blocked, as generating thumbnails for large images still has the potential to slow down the server and also cause issues for users with slow internet connections. Everyone is also still expected to compress images prior to uploading.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Can't log in to scratch

I tried to log into scratch this morning and this came up: Sorry, we've had to block all access from your network because it was used to break our community guidelines. The people in charge of the network may contact us at appeals@scratch.mit.edu (case #1534971173) for details.

I have absolutely no idea why this as I have not had any warnings from the scratch team in the last 5 months approx and as far as I know I have not done anything to break the community guidelines! What do I do because I am clueless? HELP!
Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 09:19, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I believe it is an Ip ban bug but if anyone sees anything that I could have done can you let me know? Thanks.

Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 10:11, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Someone else broke the CGs probably

Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) | contribs (658) | directory 13:44, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

It says under Ip Bans that bugs have been reported about users getting ip banned unexpectedly for no reason.

Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 13:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I just hope I can log into scratch soon!

Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 14:18, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hide 'Save changes' in the editor until Show Preview is clicked

This might not be possible, but I think the Save Changes button in the editor should be hidden until Show preview is clicked. If this is possible, this would decrease WikiMonitor warnings for editing too many times.

Apart from the possibility of this being a major problem, some users might be confused that the button is missing.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 18:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I think it is a good idea but I'm not sure if the change would be 100% necessary. There are some downsides but if someone thinks of a solution to those minor problems, then I think it is a very good idea.

Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 09:05, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

I've just had an idea. Well, one of the problems you said was that some users may be confused if the button is missing. Maybe, if it's possible, the button could still be there but not able to be clicked on until show preview is clicked. That way, users would still be able to see the button but not be able to press it.

Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 15:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Featured Images

Not done I noticed that recently, the "Featured Images" are not changing. Is there a problem?
MitFieldatdawn (talk | contribs) 11:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

No, just nobody has bothered changing them.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:22, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Remove full name from a deletion log entry

On the deletion log entry for Xanderbeee, a full name is given on the preview of what the now-deleted article contained. Part of the entry's description needs to be removed.

(Also, would this belong in the Admin Requests rather than the main Community Portal?)
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 08:42, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't know what entry you're pointing to. Could you please be more specific? (If you wish this to be private, you can submit this in a revision report - if you can't report the exact revision, report a random revision and include the link).

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

My talk page is glitchy

User talk:Ideapad-320
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 18:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

At first glance I don't see any problems. Could you please be more specific?

jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:29, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Here is the exact location

Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 17:50, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

That seems like an issue with the markup in the specific message, so unfortunately there's not much that can be done.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:58, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

There is another thread being used at User_talk:Asqwde#Welcome_template_not_working_fine
-unsigned comment by Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs)

The user whose welcome template is 'glitchy' is currently inactive, so it might not be fixed for a while. The glitch also happens on one of my talk page archives.

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:18, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

RFC on Preview Warning

I have built a bit of sample JS code that will show a warning if pressing "Save changes" without previewing. You can see the code at User:Jvvg/previewWarn.js. I have done a cursory test and it seems to work (it by default ignores talk pages). It works similar to the existing sig warn tool and will show an alert if you try to press "save changes" without previewing. However, unlike the sig warn tool, all you have to do to bypass it is just close the alert and press "Save changes" again. The goal is to encourage users to preview changes to avoid having a lot of repeated edits to one page.

What are everyone's thoughts on enabling this globally? Also, if anyone has any ideas for how this could be improved, I would love to hear them.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:16, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea, but it would be kinda annoying if you just wanted to delete a space and you had to press the preview button

leahcimto talk • contribs • profile 18:08, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

You don't have to necessarily press preview - pressing "OK" on the alert and just pressing "Save changes" again will let you save without previewing.

I personally would suggest adding a bypass on minor edits as well (though possibly disabling the bypass on the most egregious namespaces (though at that point it might not be worth having the bypass in the first place (just something to consider, then))).

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 18:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

I have updated the code to ignore minor edits.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:01, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm OK with it personally, albeit I think that there might be users who disagrees with it.

ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 20:12, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

I think this could help prevent edits to a single page littering Recent Changes, as it is way too easy to get a WikiMonitor notification for it. Additionally, I think edits should be blocked (the edit should be prevented from being submitted, not having the user being blocked) if it would trigger a WikiMonitor notification.

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘No, blocking edits would just make people mad. Oh, and how would you block the edits? AbuseFilter? Anyway, this could be useful but many people (including me lol) would just click OK every time.
Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) | contribs (658) | directory 17:27, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't think fully blocking edits is necessary, and doing so would either require some messy JS (that could be easily defeated) or using AbuseFilter (I'm not sure it's even possible to do this in AbuseFilter) or writing our own extension. I do plan to keep WikiMonitor in operation so users do get a notification if they continually disregard the warning.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm seeing no major opposition, so I have enabled the preview warning. Please let me know if there are any issues or suggestions to further improve it.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:43, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

It looks like this does not always load properly due to some timing issues in loading the page. I will investigate further as time permits.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Would this be enabled on edits that the user is using the visual editor?

Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 17:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I did not test this on VisualEditor, but a cursory look indicates it would not affect VisualEditor since it does not use the same ID on the save button.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

I think it should only occur in your second edit in a time period, like 10 mins. It shuld be a browser message box (like the leave page without saving one)

Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 17:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ The message is a browser message, very similar to the one you get when leaving a page without saving. It would be much harder to implement checking for duplicate edits in JS, that would require making AJAX calls, while the basic preview warning was a very quick fix.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Page on mini-mods

Are mini mods considered notable enough, as they are all over the forums?
Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 12:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't find minimods notable enough, they don't need a page, nothing more than a section in a forum article.

Ihatr (geometric_ghast) • Talk Page • 325 Contributions 19:13, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay. Will probably add that.

Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 12:33, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Micro:bit no devices found screen.

Not done
On the micro:bit page should I add an image of the "No devices found" screen?
Evanzap (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Visual Editor is broken

The visual editor won't work. Note:It is currently in beta.
Not done
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 02:20, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Could you please provide more information about the problem you are experiencing? I just tried it on my userpage and it seems to work. The only major known problem is it doesn't work on subpages.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

That is my issue

Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 16:18, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

This is a known glitch and unfortunately there isn't anything we can do about it. Fixing this requires editing the Apache configuration, which we do not have access to.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:28, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Report about Spoofing Vulnerability

TL;DR: A bug made it possible for someone to impersonate other users and request Scratch Wiki account. However, no account was abused (as far as we know), and it was fixed.

On March 13th (today), I, apple502j, discovered spoofing vulnerability in the Scratch-ConfirmAccounts3 extension for MediaWiki. MediaWiki is, as you may know, a software which is used to power this Wiki. The extension was made last year and powers Special:RequestAccount. There was a bug in the extension where usernames were not properly compared, when requesting accounts. For example, it was possible to request an account named 1234567890 by registering a Scratch user with zero-prefixed name (01234567890) or exponential notations (123456789e1) and using that account in the account verification, even if the user didn't own the account.

The CVSS3.1 score is 7.5 (High) by my calculation - CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:H/A:N.

Unlike other vulnerabilities, this one did not compromise security of existing users. We also believe that no accounts were requested using this bug. This bug is now fixed.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,235edit 17:10, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

About the block

Many articles on specific Reporter Blocks have paragraphs at the top with messages like:

This scratch wiki talk is about the block. For more information on the value this block reports, see Direction (value).

There could be an {{About the block}} template (or one with a similar name) to take a value's article's name as its argument, and create a paragraph with:

{{about|the block|more information on the value this block reports|[[{{{1}}}]]}}

Such a template could be used on the pages:

Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 02:28, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Auto Delete Old News

I was just going to random pages in case they needed editing, and found the page on the guidelines for adding news. While I was looking over it, I saw that it said to delete news items more than a month old. I was just wondering, why do this manually when you can have a bot that will automatically delete it?
PokemonRocks07 (talk | contribs) 16:26, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

It looks like WikiMonitor does delete old news items.

Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 16:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Currently we keep the news to the latest five items, and WikiMonitor automatically removes anything extra when updating the news (for adding the curator). Since we get a new curator every week, this means the news will never be much older than a month.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:42, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Expanding 3D projects

So it looks like a few users are creating more articles on 3D projects, so we should probably have a well-defined approach to this. We need to decide: what is worth including/not including, how will we organize them, what deserves its own article vs. being part of another article, and what amount of depth they should go into.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

By other articles do you mean the raycaster and how to make a 3-dimensional project articles?

HiPeeps124816 (talk | contribs) 15:54, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

I am talking about creating new articles as well. I mean expanding the idea of 3D projects, not just the articles we already have.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

You have not previewed your changes warning

Whenever I update my profile page, it has the extremely annoying "you have not previewed your changes" warning. I can't seem to turn it off in the preferences. How do I turn it off?
HiPeeps124816 (talk | contribs) 15:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

The warning cannot be turned off. It serves to make sure people preview changes before submitting edits and avoid making a lot of repeated edits (which happens the most often on userpages by the way). The easiest way to avoid it is simply to preview your changes to make sure they look right. If you really don't want to, you can simply dismiss the dialog and hit save again.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Weekend Article

So I was looking at the rules for making a new page and I was wondering if Weekend is a notable enough project to have an article on the Scratch Wiki.
Evanzap (talk | contribs) 20:08, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

I would go with no, the only real importance of the project I'm are of is that it was the first project uploaded to the Scratch site (or at least the first one that's still there).

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:48, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

A redirect to a section of Scratch Timeline which was created by me a few weeks ago was deleted a short time after it was created. So, it might not be notable enough to have its own article.

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 05:34, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

I have been wondering similar things. The rules say not to make articles for tutorials, but I have seen several, so what are the rules about that?

Zebrastripesagain (talk | contribs) 18:01, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

It is directly written in the rules that tutorials are allowed on the Wiki (though there are rules about what sorts of tutorials are allowed). I don't know where you saw in the rules that you shouldn't make them.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:37, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

I saw that, I was just wondering about kinds of tutorials. Because I have seen platformer tutorials which I had thought were not allowed.

Zebrastripesagain (talk | contribs) 17:07, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ The general rule for tutorials is they should not be overly specific. In my opinion (note that this is not official Wiki policy, just my personal opinion), platformers are general enough to merit a tutorial since platformer is a broad class of games. However, describing how to make a specific type of platformer would be too specific. The tutorials also should generic and not be tailored to how someone built a specific project, since that risks becoming an article about a specific project.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

I see your point, but I don't think it's notable enough either.

Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 20:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

If you believe that tutorial is too specific or otherwise is out of scope of the Wiki, feel free to bring it up on the talk page.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification!

Zebrastripesagain (talk | contribs) 18:24, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Welcome Templates

I haven't been on the Scratch Wiki in a while. Do/can users put welcome templates on new users' talk pages? Or should this be avoided?
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 18:26, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, you are allowed to put a welcome template on a new user's talk page. However, there is a limit of five templates per page (first come first serve), so if five other people have already left welcome templates on a given user talk page, do not add another one.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:38, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification.

EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 18:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

April Fools cleanup

Hi everyone,

A lot of the April Fools articles have started to become kind of bloated, as people just keep adding more and more onto them. Going forwards, I intend to start trimming them down, since keep in mind that the longer you make the article, the less likely people are to read the whole thing. As stated in the April Fools policy, EW+ do have the authority to act unilaterally on April Fools pages, and I will use this privilege as necessary. I also encourage others to help me in this endeavor by trimming articles (in general if something was already featured for this most recent April Fools Day, feel free to remove/replace it). Also, I would encourage everyone to use proper spelling, grammar, and Wiki formatting when writing April Fools articles, even if the content is supposed to be humorous.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:55, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Also, another note: please stay on-topic. I know this sounds weird for joke articles, but please at least try to keep the content of the article related to a humorous version of the original article and don't go off on random tangents that aren't really related.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:57, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

I agree with most of this, but personally, I think that some of the articles have had too much cut out. For example, the page for the Scratch Cat has been cut to just two (very short) paragraphs.

Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 18:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

What I did at the time was just a first pass, and I was trying to work quickly (and not really able to take the time to look closely). Certainly some stuff can be added back, but immediately making the article nearly as long as it was originally isn't going to help.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks for the clarification.

Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 01:10, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Images of alerts

Done
I recently noticed that this image was taken in dark mode (probably with an extension enabled). I want to upload a new version of the image, but without any extensions. How do I simulate such an alert? Should I edit the HTML to make a normal alert look like an extension alert? or should I break the rules deliberately (using an alt)? or is there anything else I can do?
PUNNAMOODU (talk | contribs) 12:21, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I'd always wondered about that image, I didn't realise that it was taken in dark mode! I would say that if you can avoid breaking the rules (even on an alt) to get the new image that would be the best, after all, if you use an alt to tell other Scratchers to use browser extensions, some might end up downloading an unsafe one, and you might also set an example for New Scratchers that it's okay to advertise browser extensions on Scratch. Do you already have a normal alert that you could edit the HTML of? Additionally, I did come up with another idea - I don't know how authentic this would be, but someone could edit the existing image (using Photoshop or similar) to change the colours?

Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 13:19, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I don't think editing an image would give an accurate representation. Also, I had an alert in my test account which I never felt like dissmissing. I will edit HTML to make it look identical. That would be okay, right?

PUNNAMOODU (talk | contribs) 17:31, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that would be great

Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 17:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I have updated the image. I hope it looks okay.

PUNNAMOODU (talk | contribs) 18:56, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

It looks perfect!

Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 19:22, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Horizontal Blocks

The user on the forums suggested that we make an article about horizontal blocks, pointing out that the French Wiki already has one. (You can see a Google translated version of the French Wiki article here) I am hesitant to make that its own article here since horizontal blocks were never actually released, and we are not a Wiki about ScratchJr (we document that it exists and what it is, but that is mostly just contained within that article). However, it may be worth including in Development of Scratch 3.0. Thoughts?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:13, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I agree that it shouldn't get its own article. I remember it being discussed in the early stages of development of 3.0 that horizontal blocks were going to be used instead of vertical blocks on mobile devices but nothing ever came of it... it was never included in any public betas. Keeping in mind that it was only really considered briefly at the start of development and was scrapped later on, I don't think it deserves anything big, perhaps just a few sentences at some point in the article explaining the concept and how nothing ever came of them - they were essentially just an idea.

Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 18:49, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

How do i delete my wiki account?

i dont deserve to be here anyway, even if the blame is on my friend.
-unsigned comment by Imabanana22 (talk | contribs)

We don't really have infrastructure for deleting Wiki accounts, but if you like you can simply log out and never use the account again. I'd recommend taking future advice from your "friend" with a grain of salt.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Extention policy and wiki?

Does the extention policy apply to the wiki?

Hi i'm bobcat0701 i'm cool! 16:24, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
-unsigned comment by Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs)

The Scratch Wiki follows the same rules as the main Scratch Website, so the rule against promoting or linking browser extension extends here. Also, when the rule was implemented in Scratch, a Scratch Team member deleted an article about one extension.

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 17:27, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

In general, per Scratch Wiki:Guidelines, all Scratch Community Guidelines apply here. Thus, the extension policy applies as well. The one exception that may apply (though this would need to be discussed for each case individually) is extensions that were advertised on Scratch before the rule came into place that were extremely notable in their own right. One such example may be the "Antidote," an extension which reenabled [img] tags on the forums while they were disabled for a period of time.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:32, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Image Categories

Is there a list of image categories so I can see which category my pictures are in?
HiPeeps124816 (talk | contribs) 16:42, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

If you go to Special:CategoryTree/Images you can interactively find all image categories. Simply go down the tree until you find one that fits your image. If there really is no category that fits your image and you do need to create one (this is very rare), make it a subcategory of the most specific category that encompasses it rather than putting it directly under something like the "Images" category.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:35, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I also added this to the warning that shows if you try to upload an image without a category so others can benefit.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:36, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Small software upgrade

Hi everyone,

We just upgraded the Wiki to run MediaWiki 1.35.2. This did result in a few minutes of downtime, but it appears to be resolved now. Please let me know if there are any issues. You can also use the forum topic if unable to post here.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:25, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Testing

Hi, I am new to the wiki! SO I am just seeing if this works :) Hi, I am mr-r-man, and I edited this page! 01:23, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
-unsigned comment by Mr-r-man (talk | contribs)

In the future, please do tests in the sandbox (or for testing talk page edits, the sandbox talk page). Thank you!

jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:27, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Question about a disambiguation

Done
Hello. I wanted to make a disambiguation page about something. When I decided to create the disambiguation, I noticed it was a page before, but it was deleted for being a 2 page disambiguation. I found 3 pages that the disambiguation could cover. So should I make it or should I not?
TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 03:50, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

What page was this for?

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

I wanted to make Comment (disambiguation) which used to be a page but was deleted for being a 2 article disambiguation. I wanted to put Comment (website feature), Comment (programming feature) and Topics and Posts (comment on the forums) in the disambiguation.

TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 15:30, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

I think making a disambiguation page for that would be reasonable, and as far as I'm aware there aren't any rules against having a disambig if there are only two items, as long as one isn't obviously more likely to be searched than the other.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:00, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Okay.

TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 21:17, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

How do I reply to a talk page message?

Done I'm just wondering how so I can say thanks to people who help me.

Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) 16:19, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Edit the section where the message is, and then add your reply at the bottom. Indent your message with a colon (as I have done here), and if it's a reply to a reply, indent with one more colon than the person above you. Then, of course, sign your post at the end with four tildes (~~~~). Check out the help page for more information.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Ok thanks

Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) 16:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Would this be an ok article?

Would list of stickys in the forums be a good enough article?
Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) 15:51, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure. Although the forum stickies would be a nice article, I have a few problems with what you're asking here. I'm going to list them here.

1. What forum(s) would be in this article? Announcements? Suggestions? Maybe even Help With Scripts?

2. Would all the stickies be featured here or just the top ones?

Finally, 3. Would this potential sticky topic feature the stickies of hidden forums (i.e. the Welcoming Committee Forum)?

And that's all I have to say about this. Please, answer the questions, because otherwise this might not be an okay article. Thanks for reading.

8bitjake ( Talk Page | Contributions | Directory | Scratch )

16:35, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

1 All but read number three 2 What does that mean 3 I can't add that info since i'm not in any of those groups
Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) MEOW yes my cat told me to write that. 00:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

My two cents (not speaking in my official capacity as an admin here, just my personal opinion) is that this isn't significant enough to warrant its own article. Most stickies are by users (including one by me), and we do not create articles about user-generated content.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

I think that would be unimportant. First of all, here is the lacking points:

Is it really possible to maintain an updated list regarding sticky topics? They generally tend to be replaced/unstickied when there's no longer a need for them.
It would be a kind of user-generated content. (as jvvg pointed out; though there might be dissident voices questioning this rule, like the opinions expressed in this stale discussion. Under the current policy, it's banned.)
I'm not really sure about notability, even though we have had a list like this before the introduction of user-generated content ban.
ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 19:12, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Platformer Page

Hey everyone, I was looking at the platformer page and I was wondering, should we add 360 platformers to the example list?
Zebrastripesagain (talk | contribs) 18:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

What is a 360 platformer?

Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 01:23, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

It's a platformer that goes in a circle, like this.

Zebrastripesagain (talk | contribs) 18:03, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I think that makes sense. However, I believe that this question belongs in the Talk:Platformer page.

Jbthepig (talk | contribs) 16:45, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/move&offset=20210321000000&limit=8

I disagree with these new titles.

These are not correct names.

These versions did not have any proper names, and putting the distinguishing term (14Feb04…27Jul06) after the name "Scratch" sends the tone that the title might be an official name (imagine an experimental, informally-distributed Scratch image with everything colored aqua, having been a developer's experiment; "Scratch Aqua" would look like a formal, published name).

I feel that the previous names were slightly better, but perhaps "14 February 2004 Image", etc. would be best, not looking messy like "5up3rcal1frag1l15t1c3xp1al1d0c10u5" nor assuming any version numbers not known to be officially assigned.
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 02:12, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

These are the official names of the Scratch versions. Before 1.0, Scratch didn't use any version number system. Therefore, it's the correct name.

ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 09:44, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

FAQs and stubs

Done
Can FAQs be stubs? I remember somebody saying FAQs can not be stubs but I have seen FAQs that are stubs. So I was wondering, can FAQs be stubs?
TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 16:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

While the criteria for completeness are generally much lower for a FAQ than a regular article, there is no reason an FAQ cannot be a stub. If an FAQ doesn't include enough information to give a complete answer to the question but does at least include something relevant to the question, that would be a stub.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks.

TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 20:36, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

How do you use Scratch Blocks on the Wiki

Done Hi, I want to fix the List-Based Raycaster tutorial. However, it uses Scratch Blocks, which were not covered in the Welcome tutorial. How do you use the Scratch Blocks feature? Thanks,
Jbthepig (talk | contribs) 16:14, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

See the Block Plugin article. Several sections cover how Scratch Blocks can be put into Wiki articles (and by extension, the Scratch Forums).

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:51, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

OK, thank you!

Jbthepig (talk | contribs) 17:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! April 29^th, 2021

Welcome to the 37^th Thankful Thursday! April 29^th, 2021.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Thankful Thursday

Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User	Thanks
jvvg (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for improving the thumbnail-maker! Mlcreater (talk \| contribs) 23:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC) Thank you for everything you do on the wiki. You patrol most of the edits, go through the account requests, be an owner of a bot, improving the thumbnail-maker, and everything else you do. Dogsmakemehappy (talk \| contribs) 15:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Jammum (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for your frequent edits, especially ones that are part of complicated topics because it shows your experience with Scratch and also shows how much you help the Scratch Wiki. Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 15:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
hiPeeps124816 (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for paying such close attention to blocks on the wiki! `play sound (Clapping v) until done` Mlcreater (talk \| contribs) 20:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Maximouse (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for bringing Layer (value) up to date and generally helping with housekeeping around the Wiki! jvvg (talk \| contribs) 14:56, 22 March 2021 (UTC) Thank you for fixing links to Change () Effect by () (block) Mlcreater (talk \| contribs) 21:18, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
TheTrillion (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for having interwiki'd so many references! Mlcreater (talk \| contribs) 18:49, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Pennharlowe (talk \| contribs)	Thanks for improving various explanations, especially a couple or so pertaining to programming. (And welcome!) Jonathan50 (talk \| contribs) 05:31, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

“

There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-

Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

”

The next TT is, May 27^th, 2021 see you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 13:43, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Not done

Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 13:43, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Is the active user thing really accurate?

It seems like it's been 72 active users since August...
leahcimto talk • contribs • profile 23:56, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

According to Special:ActiveUsers, we have 91 active as of the time I write this. I'm assuming you're referring to the {{welcome}} template? It uses the keyword "NUMBEROFACTIVEUSERS", but I don't know how that actually works under the hood. I can verify it's not just a caching issue, since running "show preview" on that template still shows 72. So, to answer your question, it is probably not accurate.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:52, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Looking this up, apparently this has happened to others too. I ran the update script just now so it will probably start saying 112 for future usages, but I don't know how to properly make it update automatically other than using a cron job, and I would prefer we not use a cron job for something that simple and as a workaround for what may be a bug in the underlying software.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:54, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Connecting my user page & april fools page

I have my normal user page that I had added stuff to. [[1]] Afterwards I had learned about april fools pages and attempted to make one. [[2]] How do I connect the two so the april fools warning connects to my user page & my user page acknowledges the existence of my april fools page?
The_5th_Scratcher (talk | contribs) 19:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

You need to put {{AF}} at the beginning of the April Fools' page and {{April Fools}} at the top of your userpage.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

I did...

The_5th_Scratcher (talk | contribs) 21:37, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

I just realized my subpage was for the April Fools Day article, not Scratch_Wiki:April Fools *Facepalm*

The_5th_Scratcher (talk | contribs) 21:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

the camera is gone

there was recently an announcement that the camera sprite option is gone. can somebody please edit https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Costume and remove the camera part?

| 9gr (talk) 20:58, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Have a copy of the Scratch logo and the search bar image on the Wiki's servers

During Maintenance Mode on the main Scratch Website (one is happening at the time I am writing this), the Scratch logo and the search bar icon do not load. To solve this, I think these logos could be stored on the Wiki (either as files here or stored in the Wiki skin's source code), if possible.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 10:20, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

I have reported an issue for this, thanks for letting us know. I have a fix but can't test it at the moment because ResourceLoader is refusing to clear its cache.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:21, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

This has now been done. Thank you to Ahmetlii and Kenny2scratch for helping me out with an issue I ran into.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:50, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Scratch Week article

Done

So is a scratch week article in the works or should I just start working on it.
Evanzap (talk | contribs) 18:28, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

There does not appear to be one. Feel free to create it.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:18, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Alright I added it

Evanzap (talk | contribs) 20:37, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Scratch Week on the news

Should they put Scratch week on the Scratch News wiki page?
HiPeeps124816 (talk | contribs) 19:46, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I added an announcement. Feel free to suggest any better wordings for it.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Scratch's Birthday

Scratch's birthday should have already passed by now. But when is its birthday? The Timeline says it's both May 11th and 15th.
HiPeeps124816 (talk | contribs) 16:04, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

The first public version of Scratch was released of May 11^th, 2007, so it is the 11^th.

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 05:05, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

Should part of this page be deleted?

Done

I noticed that Sorting_Values#Radix_LSD_Sort contains hacked blocks that only work in Scratch 2.0. Should I mark it as historical or remove it completely?

Kccuber (talk | contribs) 13:53, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

I would recommend marking it as {{obsolete feature}} instead of deleting it, because than it can be used for historical purposes. Also, when linking something, never use underscores, instead, use spaces so it can follow the style guide, specifically at no-link-underscores

TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 14:48, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! I'll mark it as obsolete.

Kccuber (talk | contribs) 15:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Embedding projects on the Wiki

Done

Is it possible to embed a Scratch project in the Wiki? I tried using <iframe src="link"> but it does not work. Any idea?
Kccuber (talk | contribs) 16:08, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

I believe not. That is a HTML tag, and in the Scratch Wiki, only some are allowed. That tag is not part of the some. You can find a list of allowed HTML tags here.

TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 17:11, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I thought there would at least be some way of doing this.

Kccuber (talk | contribs) 18:02, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

An extension does exist to enable it, and some other Wikis (such as French) have it enabled, but we do not have it enabled here because we have determined embedding projects in articles does not significantly improve their quality.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:43, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Scratch3Bridge

What's Scratch3Bridge and how to use it?
-unsigned comment by Coco7nut (talk | contribs)

According to this, it is a JavaScript library to exchange data with Scratch 3.0 online projects using cloud variables. This explains how to use it.

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 05:05, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

ScratchX on Scratch Extensions page

Not done

I noticed that this page about Scratch Extensions contains a section about ScratchX, which doesn't work anymore as it requires Flash. Should I put the {{obsolete}} tag or write that it doesn't work anymore?
Kccuber (talk | contribs) 13:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

In my opinion, I would recommend to do both.

TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 14:40, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

PNG compression levels

Done What PNG compression level should I use? Pngs are always loserless. 0 is no compression, 1 is very little compression, but very fast decompression times, and 9 is maximum compression, but high decompress times.
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 20:48, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Lossless compression is ideal, thanks. 9 is best if you don't mind the time but lower is understandable if you have less patience.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 21:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! png is always loseless, and i can make a level 9 png in <15 secs.
-unsigned comment by Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs)

Do I need a reference for this?

Done

Recently, I made this edit. I have a reference for this here. Is it notable enough to add to the edit? More importantly, its on a project. Can it be added?
PUNNAMOODU (talk | contribs) 03:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

References that are projects can be added. I recommend to add this reference, since it needs proof to back it up. Basically, add references when you can (and make sure they are related to the statement).

TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 05:32, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, comments are acceptable references if made by someone with the relevant authority (in this case, cheddargirl being a Scratch Team is a "relevant authority" on what the Scratch Team can do).

jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:14, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Okay. It looks like jvvg already edited it, thanks!

PUNNAMOODU (talk | contribs) 17:09, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Should pages with many editors notes have them collapse

Not done Tall editors notes can ruin the experience for non editors. i have an idea for a solution: Collapse those notes. example: User:Ideapad-320/Sandbox/manyissues
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 01:58, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Do you have an example of a page where this is actually a problem?

jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:23, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Collapse documentation is missing

Not done Template:Collapse is broken. The documentation is missing.
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 02:01, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

How should archives for talk pages be crated?

Not done How should archives for talk pages be crated?
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 02:04, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Create an page at Talk:Page name/Archive n where n is a number (start at 1, then do 2 for the second archive, and so on). Put all resolved discussions from the main talk page on the archive page and remove them from the main talk page, and then put {{archive header}} at the top of the archive page. Finally, put {{protect}} at the top of the archive page to ask an EW+ to protect it.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:22, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

scratchblocks is updated

scratchblocks, a library used to render Scratch blocks, is now updated to version 3.5.1. This update includes fixes for block sizing. This update has already been applied to all Scratch Wikis. Please let me know in case any bugs are found.

scratchblocks version 3.6.0 is also planned, and will include translation updates and support for Scratch 3.0 extensions.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,235edit 06:44, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Done see below for extension updates!

Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,235edit 09:38, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

scratchblocks is updated, now with Scratch 3.0 extensions!

scratchblocks, a library used to render Scratch blocks, is now updated to version 3.5.2. This update include support for Scratch 3.0 extensions.

Now you can write the extension blocks, without adding ::microbit for example. You'll still need to add in some cases where there is a conflict; e.g. when using tilted [any v]? block, which exists in there different extensions. In most cases, they fall back to micro:bit extension.

This update also adds icons for ::gdxfor and ::boost:

cool block::gdxfor
boost this wiki::boost

This also updates translations, so new languages are available and blocks are properly shown in other languages. There is a known bug that may happen in other languages when a translation is inconsistent, but this should not affect English.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,235edit 09:37, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

That's awesome :D

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 16:49, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

What do INDEX and NOEDITSECTION do?

Done

What do __INDEX__ and __NOEDITSECTION__ do?
TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 21:00, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

__INDEX__ signals that the page should be indexed, if by default it would not be. If I'm not mistaken, it has no effect on this wiki because all pages are indexed by default.

__NOEDITSECTION__ disables the [edit] links next to section titles (and possibly disables editing sections even if you manually try, though I haven't tested that).

You can read up on these and other magic words at Help:Magic words.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:49, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks!

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 12:51, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

How can I categorize something?

I want to categorize something to make the bot stop sending me messages and deleting my articles. Do you know a way I can categorize a page? Thanks!
-unsigned comment by PizzaPizza72 (talk | contribs)

Put [[Category:CATEGORYHERE]] at the bottom of the page. Also, articles do not get deleted because there is no category, it will be deleted for other reasons, which you can find by looking at the deletion summary (and bots do not have the power to delete articles, that is a power reserved for Administrators and higher (Experienced Wikians can also delete articles, but only ones that do not have a large history of edits)). Also, make sure to sign your post with four tildes (~~~~).

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 00:16, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Centralizing Text

Question is already in the topic - I'm having trouble finding a way to centralize the text in the editor. Apologies if I posted in the wrong place or if this was a duplicate of an old topic. I'm relatively new to the Wiki.
MasterofTheBrick (talk | contribs) 04:18, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Do you mean text going to the center like
this?
If so, use <center> to make a text center, and </center> to close it, so text after that will no longer be centered.

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 04:24, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, thank you!

MasterofTheBrick (talk | contribs)

You're welcome!

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 05:30, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Another way to timestamp?

Done I am wondering, is there another way to log your timestamp? I want to do the custom signature test but i'm not replacing my current wiki sig yet. Is there some type of template I can use?
Kccuber (talk | contribs) 15:26, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Three tildas (~~~) produces your preferences signature alone:

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory

Four tildas (~~~~) produces your preferences signature plus timestamp:

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 16:49, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Five tildas (~~~~~) produces the timestamp only:
16:49, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

If I interpret your question correctly, what you want is the five tildas. Hope that helps!

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 16:49, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Yup, exactly what I was looking for. Already got it though :P

kccuber(talk:: operators)(userpage:: extension)(scratch:: sensing)(contribs:: motion) 18:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

What is staging.scratch-wiki.info?

Done
What is it?
TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 21:40, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

I think that staging.scratch-wiki.info is used to test out MediaWiki functionality and extensions before they are used on the main wikis.

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 05:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Yup, exactly what jammum said. It was originally created so we could do a dry run of upgrading to MediaWiki 1.35 to make sure nothing would break, but it now is used for testing out extensions or other technical changes.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:36, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Okay, thanks.

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 15:41, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

How does Wiki Wednesday work?

Hello, I am semi-new to the wiki and would love to know how Wiki Wednesday works

JPANDD (talk | contribs) 13:57, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

On the last Wednesday of every month, we set a new featured article and it gets posted on the forums. A number of Wikis in other languages do the same thing. You can suggest articles here.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:15, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!

JPANDD (talk | contribs) 16:34, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

How do I move a page

I accidentally put a spelling mistake in my page: Project (disambugation), how do I move it?
TheClaw7654 (talk | contribs) 17:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Select "Rename" from the pencil menu at the top right.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:38, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Are You Allowed to Include your ....

Not done ... roblox username on you user page? Roblox users can allow anyone to chat them, not just their friends and so that could be linking un-modded chat.
Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 20:34, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

I think you've answered your own question. Feel free to report edits that introduce such information (go to page history, and click "report" next to "undo").

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 21:06, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

But Scratch itself does allow Roblox usernames (and links - post:4285551). There is even a forum topic full of people sharing their Roblox usernames: topic:5086

Maximouse (talk | contribs) 16:19, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, since Roblox has a very strict filter, too strict in many people's opinions (I can confirm this as I am an active player and have been for the last few years), and the private chat deletes messages with only one word filtered, correctly or incorrectly.

garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 15:43, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Is this a glitch?

Done
So, once, I found this file. I wanted to edit it (not the image itself, the description.) So, I click the pencil icon, and where the edit option should be, there was create (it was really the menu if you were going to create a page). I clicked it, and then I get a deletion message. Then, just to test it out, I click "Upload a new file". Same thing. A deletion message. So, that file is uneditable. Also, this is the only file I found it on.
TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 15:47, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

As far as I can see, Scimonster deleted the page in 2013, but the servers seem to still have it stored and can load this file. As for your question, this is definitely a glitch, and it seems to be on the servers end.

Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 23:58, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

We had an issue for a long time where files could not be fully deleted. It would delete the "page" (the file description) but not the underlying file. This issue has been resolved, but did not apply retroactively, so there are some "ghost files".

jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:26, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Okay.

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 21:42, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

How do I upload a file?

I don't know how to upload a file, how do I?
TheClaw7654 (talk | contribs) 18:29, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Special:UploadFile

jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:36, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Fixed link.

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 21:42, 28 June 2021 (UTC)

Popups

What did happen to the Scratch Wiki styled popups? They now look like Wikipedia popups. Also, by the word popups, I mean the link previews.
JackyBorderCollie (talk | contribs) 13:33, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

The Scratch Wiki runs on MediaWiki, devoloped by the Wikimedia Foundation which also develops Wikipedia, which also runs on MediaWiki. That is why.

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 22:12, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

But when I joined the wiki, the popups looked different.

JackyBorderCollie (talk | contribs) 13:42, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Legal Terms in Languages Other Than German

Done Currently, the legal terms for the wiki are only in one language: German. Because of that, some Wikians like me can't read them, and even if they have a translator, it does a trashy job. I think there should be legal terms for every language on the wiki.
ScratchCat1038 (talk | contribs) 14:57, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Legal documents cannot be translated without it becoming legally dangerous.

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 15:16, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Oh, okay. I didn't know that. Thanks!

ScratchCat1038 (talk | contribs) 19:36, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

We could provide a translation into English (or any other language), but it would have to come with the disclaimer that it's provided for convenience only and that the original German version is still legally binding. The reason we don't even have that is that nobody has gone through the effort of creating that translation. I personally do not speak German so I can't help much with that.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:14, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

August Featured Images

Not done

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for August. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many...
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 20:53, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

How about this or this?

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 21:59, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Maybe this? Petaldancer66 6w6

Petaldancer66 (talk | contribs) 01:30, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Old Revisions With Last Names

Done

On the Forum Topic there was a request by Poiygon to remove the last names from older revision of the Scratch Team article. I responded saying that they probably won't be removed unless the ST requests their removal. Shortly after that, Za-Chary responded (link), saying that the ST, collectively, would like the revisions with the last names removed, as they are uncomfortable with it. I wonder if the revisions will be deleted or if they will stay?
Dhuls (Talk|Contribs|Scratch) 03:30, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

I saw a post from jvvg (forgot where it was) that said they weren't going to remove the edit history because one could always use GitHub history or the Internet Archive anyways, so I'm going to mark this as done.

Dhuls (Talk|Contribs|Scratch) 05:46, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

Ideas for which article to use for the new flawed article

Hi everyone,

We are currently planning on rewriting the flawed article. In order to ensure the new flawed article fits out needs we are not going to allow direct editing of the draft, but will allow suggestions to be posted. Currently we are seeking suggestions on what real article to base it on. The base article should be a well-known topic but not have been used as a previous flawed article.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:02, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

I have created an SWP for this project:

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

SWP 006 - Flawed Article Draft

Description	Status	Owner	Started	Links
Write and add flaws to a new version of the Flawed Article.	Not done	Owners: The Wiki Administration Assigned: jvvg bigpuppy TheTrillion Jackson49 Jammum TenType Dhuls Dogsmakemehappy Garnetluvcookie	2021-07-10	Project results
				Project page
				Project discussion

If anyone is interested in being an active participant in this project (though anyone can contribute!), feel free to add your name under "Assigned" on the project page. Thanks for your help, everyone!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 23:13, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

I think the Scratch Cat article would be a good one to base it off. It is well known, and has not been used before.

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 23:58, 10 July 2021 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, why does the Flawed Article need to be rewritten?

Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 02:38, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

When users request Scratch Wiki accounts, we want them to read S:CONTRIB in full and follow all of the instructions that are located there. As you know, this includes pointing out flaws and things to add in the Flawed Article. However, we also want users to do this themselves, without outside help or guidance. This is because the Flawed Article is a venue to check the requester's skills; not someone else's skills. However, after a while, as the Flawed Article gets known by more and more people, there is a greater chance that information about the flaws in the Flawed Article is being distributed. Changing the Flawed Article nullifies this information. It's not that we don't trust people; it's just a precaution. Keep in mind that the Flawed Article doesn't need to be changed too often, but it is still good to change it every once in a while.

That was a very wordy way of saying that we don't want people to, well, cheat, for lack of a better word. Plus, even discounting the reason above, it's always fun and refreshing to change things up once in a while. The current Flawed Article about Scratch 3.0 is our second Flawed Article (the original was about the Paint Editor), and eventually it will be time for a third. The Scratch Wiki:Flawed Article/Draft page is our head start on that third article (and hopefully will be used for the fourth, fifth, sixth, etc.!).

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 03:17, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! That makes sense.

Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 03:23, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

I think Blocks or Discussion Forums could be used. Both pages are major features of Scratch and might be easy to add second person to it. Some things that could be absent from the flawed versions might be the list of Blocks or categories of them (for Blocks) or the list of forums (for Discussion Forums) (so requesters can mention that it could be added).

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 09:50, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Maybe New Scratcher? It's controversial, so the flawed article could include lots of opinions.

Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 19:09, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Username might also work. It could have problems like the writer saying their username, and saying that you should be able to change your username. It also probably wouldn't be hard to add other flaws, like dead links or missing citations.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 23:39, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

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Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 05:43, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your enthusiasm, but let's wait until we've actually decided on a basis article before we jump into actually writing the flawed article.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:24, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

I think we could base the flawed article on studios, since many people have different opinions, especially about the update.

Dhuls (Talk|Contribs|Scratch) 16:34, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

Right. Sorry.

Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 18:03, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

(technically this is also reviving this) Another idea of an article for the new flawed article could be Variables. It might also be easy to add second person, and information about variable-related blocks could be excluded. A personal opinion could be added about something like cloud data (such as "I think there is no harm in New Scratchers using cloud variables" (this is not my opinion on cloud data)) or hypothetical cloud lists.

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:49, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for all the ideas, everyone! I'd just like to let everyone know that we would appreciate if all further ideas are submitted by August 10^th. Thanks again!

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 03:00, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Arc CDN

The Scratch Wiki's GitHub now has a repository for a MediaWiki extension that uses 'Arc CDN' and a widget appears in the bottom-left of anything on the Scratch Wiki (I think it applies to several users logged in on the Scratch Wiki). Why does this wiki use 'Arc'?
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:52, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

My fault for not posting on the CP up front about this.

Arc CDN is a Content Delivery Network. (That's what it stands for! Search up the term if it's unfamiliar to you.) The gimmick is that instead of having servers all around the world to cache content near you (like a normal CDN), you receive content from other people near you who are viewing the same content at the same time. If nobody is viewing the same content at the same time, or the people who are doing so are no closer to you than our own servers, then your requests go to our servers as normal.

What this amounts to is a peer-to-peer (P2P) CDN rather than a distributed-system CDN. Content should generally load faster if more people near you are viewing it at once. (And while our servers are in Germany, "near you" could just mean "in the US" if that is where you are.)

The second reason we're using it is because it literally makes us money. Arc has an interesting business model in that the biggest sites pay a lot for access to their P2P network, and (at least some of) that money gets paid out to all users as a reward for contributing to their network. Big sites do get money too, but they generally pay way more than they make. Smaller sites like ours will actually make more than we pay. This will help support the costs of hosting and other fees (though our current estimates suggest it will not cover it in full).

We're currently rolling out Arc usage incrementally. Today it's being randomly enabled for 20% of sessions; it was enabled for 10% yesterday; and it will be increased to 30% tomorrow if there are no complaints. (You had a good guess, but it applies to any user, logged in or not; but only a certain proportion of them at the moment.) Eventually it will be enabled for everyone.

I will add a user preference later today that allows any logged-in user to opt in (either to support us or just to test it out). However, once the rollout is complete, the preference will be removed.

Keep an eye out for any issues this causes, if any, and report them here. If all goes well, the Wiki will be faster, financially more stable, and generally even more reliably here to stay.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:29, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

I have added the preference. Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering → Check "Opt in to Arc CDN" if you want to try it out without waiting for the proportional rollout to hit you.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 18:33, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Why is SyntaxHighlight disabled?

If someone were to go to Special:Version and see the extensions they would see SyntaxHighlight installed. While I know this is because MediaWiki 1.21+ come with this extension, I think it should be enabled, since the Language Tutorials would benefit from this.
Dhuls (Talk|Contribs|Scratch) 03:49, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Our servers don't currently have Python 3, which Pygments (the backend of SyntaxHighlight) requires. It used to actually work, because older versions of SyntaxHighlight used older py2-pygments, but we upgraded MediaWiki itself and that forced a SyntaxHighlight upgrade. A transfer is coming at some point, which should resolve these issues.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 18:00, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

What's this... ad? Is this intentional?

Done I noticed a small purple circle with an icon on it at the bottom-left of every wiki page. When I click it, it's some ad for a browser extension thingey, saying it will give scratch-wiki.info a boost. Is this intentional? Or some ad that found it's way here? Thanks!
ScratchCat1038 (talk | contribs) 05:11, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

It's something to do with ArcCDN, which the wiki started using quite recently. It's described a few sections above this one.

Dhuls (Talk|Contribs|Scratch) 05:14, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Oh, hehe. Might have not noticed it, or just got ninja'd

ScratchCat1038 (talk | contribs) 14:59, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

hi, i've been inactive for a year, sup?

what's happened? something happened on scratch where i can no longer access my account (i did not get banned, my little sister somehow got into my account and changed my password, and will not give it up like her life depends on it or something)

garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 23:21, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

If you have access to the email associated with your account, you can use the "forgot password" link in the login modal to set your password again. In any case, hi! :P

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:59, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

hi! i think I'm probably leaving scratch because of some events that happened in a community i was in, and plus i don't like the studio update too much so i was leaving anyways :)

garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 12:52, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Mm, that's probably fair. You're welcome to stay on the Wiki though

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:44, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Speedy Delete-like feature

If someone thinks there would be a unanimous decision to delete a page, couldn't they just put the Delete template instead of the NotUseful template? If not, then I propose a feature similar to wikipedia:WP:PROP. It would basically skip the uneeded discussion that probably won't even finish anyways.
Dhuls (Talk|Contribs|Scratch) 17:03, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

That is already a thing. If a page obviously doesn't fit the Wiki (for example, a chat article, a spam article, etc.), you can use {{delete}}. However if there is a small chance it might fit (for example, an overly specific tutorial) then still use {{NotUseful}}.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:34, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

I should also mention that EW+ will generally delete a page without discussion even if it doesn't have {{delete}} if we deem it as clearly not fitting the Wiki.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:35, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

How to get post ID for references?

Done

When making references for an article, how do you link to a specific forum post?
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 00:09, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Here is how.

Press Ctrl+⇧ Shift+I.
Turn on a feature where you can select parts of a website to see their HTML code (I do not know what that is called, you might not have this feature.)
Select the date the post was made.
Click it.
Do you see <a href="/discuss/post/number/">Date</a>? After /post/, has the post number.

Now it is done.

TheTrillion • Talk • 1,910 contributions • Scratch 00:29, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

You can also just right-click the date in the top-left corner of the post, click "Copy Link" or a similar option, and the ID will be in the link that is copied, for example:

https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3022659/

Or you could just (left-)click the date, and the ID should be the last number in your address bar, for example:

https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/294197/?page=1#post-3022659

And then you would link to it via [[post:ID]], for example post:3022659.

Of course, TheTrillion's suggestion of using Inspect Element works just as well. Just do whichever is easiest for you.

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 00:38, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!

Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 00:42, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

User	Thanks
jvvg (talk \| contribs)	Thanks so much for the background work you do, from reviewing account requests to making sure our servers are in top shape to combating vandalism; I honestly don't know what the wiki would be without you. Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) \| contribs (658) \| directory 15:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC) Thanks for all of your help on the wiki Jackson49 (talk \| contribs) 04:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC) Thanks for everything you do behind the scenes on the wiki. It is amazing to look at the patrol logs and how many revisions you patrol, how many users create, and wikimonitor. Dogsmakemehappy (talk \| contribs) 18:37, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Dogsmakemehappy (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for all your help with cleaning up the grammar! jvvg (talk \| contribs) 02:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
bigpuppy (talk \| contribs)	Thanks for helping literally every wikian, the wiki wouldn't be the same without you! Ihatr (geometric_ghast) • Talk Page • 325 Contributions 22:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
4096bits (talk \| contribs)	Thanks for all of your contributions to the wiki Jackson49 (talk \| contribs) 04:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
mlcreater (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for fixing all those broken links! jvvg (talk \| contribs) 03:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

User	Thanks
jvvg (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for improving the thumbnail-maker! Mlcreater (talk \| contribs) 23:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC) Thank you for everything you do on the wiki. You patrol most of the edits, go through the account requests, be an owner of a bot, improving the thumbnail-maker, and everything else you do. Dogsmakemehappy (talk \| contribs) 15:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Jammum (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for your frequent edits, especially ones that are part of complicated topics because it shows your experience with Scratch and also shows how much you help the Scratch Wiki. Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 15:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
hiPeeps124816 (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for paying such close attention to blocks on the wiki! `play sound (Clapping v) until done` Mlcreater (talk \| contribs) 20:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Maximouse (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for bringing Layer (value) up to date and generally helping with housekeeping around the Wiki! jvvg (talk \| contribs) 14:56, 22 March 2021 (UTC) Thank you for fixing links to Change () Effect by () (block) Mlcreater (talk \| contribs) 21:18, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
TheTrillion (talk \| contribs)	Thank you for having interwiki'd so many references! Mlcreater (talk \| contribs) 18:49, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Pennharlowe (talk \| contribs)	Thanks for improving various explanations, especially a couple or so pertaining to programming. (And welcome!) Jonathan50 (talk \| contribs) 05:31, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

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