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Logging server faults

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kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Are You Allowed to Include your ....

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... roblox username on you user page? Roblox users can allow anyone to chat them, not just their friends and so that could be linking un-modded chat.
Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 20:34, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

I think you've answered your own question. Feel free to report edits that introduce such information (go to page history, and click "report" next to "undo").

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 21:06, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

But Scratch itself does allow Roblox usernames (and links - post:4285551). There is even a forum topic full of people sharing their Roblox usernames: topic:5086

Maximouse (talk | contribs) 16:19, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, since Roblox has a very strict filter, too strict in many people's opinions (I can confirm this as I am an active player and have been for the last few years), and the private chat deletes messages with only one word filtered, correctly or incorrectly.

garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 15:43, 18 July 2021 (UTC)

Adding on to what others have said, "discord" is censored, and users under 13 years of age cannot send or recieve private messages (excluding your automated welcome message and news), and users over 13 years of age can control if everyone, friends or no-one can send them messages. However users of all ages can "friend" each other, and can chat with each other. However, as @garnetluvcookie mentioned, Roblox has a very strict filter so that shouldn't too much of a worry.

TheTrillion • Talk • 2,595 contributions • Scratch 00:28, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Please make an article for making the painter's 3D algothrim

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It's so non-laggy and high quality But the worst things are:

1. I can't write an article for it because it's too long to build

2. Even if I was able to make it, I don't know how to make the painter's 3D algothrim

PenguinLover1123 (talk | contribs) 22:18, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello?

PenguinLover1123 (talk | contribs) 16:24, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "painter's 3D algorithm"

ContourLines [ Talk ~ Contributions ~ Directory ] 10:11, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Proposal: Create a citation template specifically for archives and web link, maybe running a bot for archiving links

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Hi folks, I've been thinking about the possibility of standardization for more citations. The wiki has {{Cite post}} already, but not an uniform scheme for external links or archives, which could be easily done with a template.

As another idea separate from the above, I think that there would be a bot that archives/looks to the archives and puts the archived link into template. That would probably require more extensive and exhaustive work which wouldn't be worth for this wiki, but also would help to not have link rots and keep us off from tedious archiving.

What do you think about it?
ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 17:15, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

The Wiki now has (beta) dark theme!

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The Wiki interface now has a dark theme! This theme is still in beta - expect issues. You can enable it in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. Please report any issues you encounter on this CP topic or in the Wiki forum topic.

We're already aware of some compatibility issues, but please mention whatever you see. Please report issues by adding them to the list in the following format:

* Issue https://link.to/screenshot~~~~

Please use an approved Image Host for your screenshot. Note also that we are prioritizing cases where the interface is actually unusable (e.g. dark-theme-white text on light-theme-white background) over cases where regular light theme styling is appearing in the midst of dark theme styling.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:11, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Recent changes legend is white on white https://u.cubeupload.com/Kenny2cubeupload/recentchangeslegend.png
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:11, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Done in https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki/ScratchWikiSkin2/pull/101
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 23:12, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
File captions are white on white https://u.cubeupload.com/Kenny2cubeupload/filecaptions.png
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:49, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Done in https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki/ScratchWikiSkin2/pull/101
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 23:12, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Editor is partially white. https://u.cubeupload.com/dhuls/352Screenshot2021122014.png
Dhuls (Talk|873 Contributions|Scratch) 20:31, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Done in https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki/ScratchWikiSkin2/pull/101
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 23:12, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Protection warning box (and presumably other similar boxes) are dark on dark https://u.cubeupload.com/Kenny2cubeupload/protectionwarning.png
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 23:12, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Done in https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki/ScratchWikiSkin2/commit/91cf619351070ed0a30c2f418db138bbe4c2710a
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:23, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
Text in the editor is white on white when selected https://u.cubeupload.com/CrazyBoy826/72cUntitled.png. Also the arrow before "Advanced" and "special characters" are dark on dark
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 17:30, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
File metadata is white on white https://u.cubeupload.com/CrazyBoy826/31dUntitled.png
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 17:39, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Visual editor top bar is white on white https://u.cubeupload.com/CrazyBoy826/a53Untitled.png
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 17:53, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
Stripes in "username" form on special pages make text unreadable https://u.cubeupload.com/CrazyBoy826/d46Untitled.png
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 18:02, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
First two entries in edit history have the light theme https://u.cubeupload.com/CrazyBoy826/927Untitled.png
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 18:09, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Formalizing policy on second person

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Hi everyone,

This Wiki, with a few exceptions, does not allow use of second person in articles. In most cases I agree with this, but I think at some points we reach a point where losing clarity and/or directness to achieve this level of formality. Therefore, I propose that we have a few exceptions:

Articles that have a very strong direct impact on users (examples include How do users get unbanned?, What should I do about unfriendly comments?, etc.)
High severity warnings that could have major consequences if ignored (examples include the warnings in Account Deletion, Making Scratch Crash, etc.)
Steps in tutorials (we have de-personified tutorials a lot so I don't have any existing examples of this)

In think in all of these, it is more important to be clear and direct rather than formal. Especially in the first two categories listed above, it is important that the article speak directly to the user. In the end, the most important goal of the Wiki is to provide information Scratchers need.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:56, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

I think that it is merely a "guideline" which is accepted by the most of community and commonly enforced, but I hesitate from calling it as a "policy" which shall be enforced very strictly on all pages. I mostly agree about de-personification but at least some of the FAQ and how-to pages should be second-person due to their own nature.

ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 18:21, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

I think this is partially already in effect. S:GUIDES states:

“

Never use first person ("I", "we", "let's") and avoid second person ("you", "your") as much as possible, unless the entire article is a tutorial, in which case it should still be used sparingly.

”

S:EC states:

“

In tutorials, use "you" only when giving instructions to the user. For other content within a tutorial article (such as explaining a concept but not giving direct instructions on how to apply it), follow the rule above and avoid using "you".

In FAQ articles, only use "you" inside the FAQ box - in extra content, refrain from using "you".

”

That said, I think it may be a good idea to add more direct exceptions along the lines of what you have stated. I agree that we should value providing clear and understandable information over unnecessary formality in most cases.

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 08:05, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

Categorizing Redirects

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Categorizing redirects makes them easier for others to find them and such templates would describe the redirects. The meta-template would be:

[[:Category:{{{category}}}|{{{1}}}]]: This is a redirect {{{2}}}.

CodeLearnerSai (talk | contribs) 01:46, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

If you just want a list of redirects, we already have that built in to MediaWiki. I also don't really see any benefit to having categories of redirects.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:03, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

I think that categorizing by the reasons of redirects or adding an explanation with a template would be useful to find out what are those redirects and their reasons.

ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 05:31, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

New page "Bitwise Operators"

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It's not particularly necessary however I feel like a page touching on bitwise operators and their workarounds would be a nice addition to the wiki. I'm not completely sure on the practicality or general use of the page however and I want advice on whether I should try to create it or not. I've noticed a lot of more obscure pages such as heap though I want to know your thoughts. Thanks!

Virus6120 (talk | contribs) 04:39, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

The topic is an interesting one, except how is it directly related to Scratch? The article you mentioned (heap), isn’t “obscure”, as the topic mentioned could be very useful when regarding lists. (there’s even a script you can use provided)

wangat talk • contribs • profile 14:13, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@wangat: It needn't to be directly related to Scratch (at least per my interpretation, but there are examples), it can be related to the programming languages or computer science in general for being included in the Scratch Wiki. For example, we have a page for tutorials about different languages, and a separate category for the computer science. Other than that, I actually think that we'd also have a page about pointers, which would be useful (even if it doesn't make sense in Scratch at all).

ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 15:34, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Note: In addition to what I've said before, we already have {{Third-party}} to differentiate what is directly related to Scratch and what isn't.

ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 15:47, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

That is sort of my line of thinking; I've noticed the Scratch Wiki also hosts general articles about programming that aren't directly related to Scratch. Plus, there are cases where I actually need bitwise operators for algorithms and such (implementing AES encryption in Scratch, don't know why I tried), and I believe they're versatile enough that they would be useful in a lot of cases.

Virus6120 (talk | contribs) 16:33, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

sha2 my guys

banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,231)) 17:23, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

Next TT

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When will be next Thankful Thursday?
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 10:47, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

According to this, the next TT should've been on December 23^rd of last year. I guess jakel181 isn't active to post it (although I'm not sure if any EW/admin can post a TT).

wangat talk • contribs • profile 14:54, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

ok

Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 08:12, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I think its time for someone to take over the Thankful Thursday job while Jakel181 is not here. It should be a collaboration effort between multiple people with each one hosting a new one each time. It will give a sense of community and will also boost the Thankful part of this.

LokiBlaster | Talk Page | Contributions 16:12, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

I think that's a good idea, but Jakel181 should be asked first.

Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 17:10, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

https://scratch-wiki.info

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The page [1] has some visual problems. The link "Scratch" in the description is colored very similarly to the background. Also, the wiki logos are on a dark background, which makes some parts unreadable. For example, the "wiki" in the English wiki logo does not have a border, which means it is difficult to see. Also, the Dutch wiki logo has background removal mistakes which are easily seen. Could this page be improved to remove these problems?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 23:28, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I agree with you on the first point; the link does seem very similar to the background. I don't think it necessarily needs to be changed, however.

Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 15:07, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're seeing, but for me, the header is purple, the link to "Scratch" is blue, and the wiki logos are on a white background. What device are you using?

wangat talk • contribs • profile 16:55, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

@Wangat Not sure if this is directed to me, but yes, you are correct. They just mean that the blue link looks fairly similar to the purple header.

Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 17:15, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

@Filmlover12: I was asking CrazyBoy826, but I suppose it could’ve been for you as well. However, I switched devices to my phone (rather than my laptop) and the page shows up as is described in the OP.

wangat talk • contribs • profile 17:20, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

This probably happens because I am using dark mode and the website did not specify a background color, so it defaulted to black.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 23:19, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Adding a background color to the CSS should fix this.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 23:10, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Encourage users to capitalise the word 'Scratch'

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I have seen several users (mostly newer ones) not capitalising the word 'Scratch' frequently. Although capitalising it comes under using proper spelling, grammar and capitalisation in guidelines, I am suggesting that somewhere on the wiki states that capitalising 'Scratch' is encouraged or emphasised.

The only problem I can think of my suggestion is that is could be considered assisting users making account requests if put in somewhere like the guidelines or account request instructions. Apart from those places, would it be possible to put in the Scratch article that is it spelt with a capital S?

(Despite me being an EW, I think this suggestion needs some feedback from other users)
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 09:11, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Yeah, support. Although, it should be self explanatory, as in the English language, all proper nouns are supposed to be capitalized (also since Wiki editors should have a good sense of the English language). "Scratch" is, in this case, describing a certain programming language, so it should be capitalized. I don't think it's necessary for us to put a notice in the Scratch article specifically about this, because I doubt that a. article readers will really care, and b. Wiki editors should know this.

wangat talk • contribs • profile 22:15, 1 February 2022 (UTC)

I somehow missed that topic in the CP but I definitely agree. I think that putting it to S:PRO would make sense rather than an article, and I will edit that page now.

ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 17:46, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Add info about Snap! 7.1

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Snap! 7.1 has just been released and it may be a good idea to add info about it. (I don't feel ready to do an edit this big)
Source
SuperMarioHome (talk | contribs) 15:40, 6 February 2022 (UTC)

New Election System Proposal

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Hello! In the most recent Experienced Wikian election, there were only two candidates: myself and Jammum. Due to this, the admins at the time decided not to use Borda count system (in which candidates are ranked from favorite to least favorite), and instead did a more simple way of voting.

Basically, you could vote for either candidate (or, choose not to vote for either) and vote if you approved the candidate(s). If the candidates had 50% or more of a support vote, then they were elected EW.

I feel like this way of voting doesn't pit candidates against eachother and create rivalries over who'll get the higher number of points since voters can abstain from voting for one candidate or the other (or both, I suppose); each candidate is focused more on themselves, rather then their opponent.

To get to my point, I feel like that, if/when the Wiki administration decides to have another election, we should use this new system, not the Borda one, no matter the number of candidates.

Of course, the Borda system does have its ups when there are many candidates; however, I think a mix of the two might be helpful to the administration in the future (possibly requiring all voters to vote for each candidate, and maybe increasing the minimun support percent to 60 or 75%). Any thoughts?
wangat talk • contribs • profile 22:13, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

The reason we normally have an election using the Borda count system is we want to limit the number of Experienced Wikians, as the more we have the harder it is to coordinate, and the saying goes "too many cooks spoil the broth." We used the confidence system this time because we only had two selected to run (we wanted two), so there was no issue of adding too many. Unfortunately, I think some amount of pitting candidates against each other is inevitable if we want to achieve the result of not having too many EWs. That being said, we are open to potential alternative voting strategies that still ensure we avoid having too many EWs elected (for reference, we usually want two per election).

jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:57, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Fair point.

wangat talk • contribs • profile 20:35, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

I have an idea on this topic. Why not have polling system. This is only for 3 and more. In this a person can only vote 2 people. 1 person will be voted 1 who the person wants the second most and 2nd will be voted 2 and it is first preference and as you are electing 1-2 people then count which person has most points will be EW. Through this there are pretty less chances of many people being elected

Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 11:09, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Reference previews

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The reference previews are not displaying for some reason. I remember that when I hovered on a number, it showed the preview for it. Was it changed to not display preferences or I have some settings turned off?
JackyBorderCollie (talk | contribs) 07:55, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Suggestion: Rule page for welcome templates

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If it is considered necessary, I think a page on rules on custom welcome templates could be created. Some things it could mention include the 5 welcome templates maximum per talk page, that users should think that they know enough about Wiki contributing to state that they can help users on talk pages, and possibly less likely (although covered by the Wiki guidelines as well), using proper spelling and grammar in welcome templates.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:19, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

I support this. We already indicate in the userspace policy that only five are allowed, I think it's reasonable to have more fleshed out rules to ensure that these give a fitting welcome to the Wiki.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:46, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

I have some objections.

First of all, I don't think that limiting the amount of welcome templates on the talk page is very helpful, in order to encourage users to edit more, unless requested by the user. While the users definitely should not only limit their contributions with non-mainspace edits for continuously maintaining the wiki, I don't see any harm if users also focuses outside of the mainspace. And, in my opinion, this also keeps the wiki thriving because the people find a reason to check the wiki - and hence not cutting their ties with the wiki.

However, if there'd be a guideline (like how Bigpuppy led about standardizing signatures before) to standardize welcome templates (i.e those shouldn't be too flashy, shouldn't cover the whole page, etc.), or maybe listing some suggestions as common sense (for example not posting too much templates at the same time); then that would be nice indeed.

ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 18:51, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

Encourage user talk page topics that only say hello to go on Scratch profiles instead

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I think that user talk page topics where users only say hello (except welcome templates and messages) should go on users' Scratch profiles, as I think they are not very Wiki-related, might be a very broad and/or generic topic, and they take a very short amount of time to write.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 10:55, 21 February 2022 (UTC) modified 16:24, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

You are free to do this on your own talk page if you wish, but I personally don't see any problem with messages that simply say "hello." We allow non-wiki-related messages on user talk pages. The Scratch Wiki is a community, and sometimes people in our community wish to greet each other for no reason other than to be friendly. I don't see why they should be required to go to a separate website to be able to do that.

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 15:52, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

This talk page contains a long streak of messages (the users who posted them all joined the wiki after I became EW) that only say hello. I think these could be more convenient to the user and keeping the talk page more wiki-related or formal if those messages went on Scratch profiles instead.

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:56, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Like bigpuppy said, you can enforce it on your own page, but unless it becomes spammy I see no reason to do it for all talk pages.

78ch3 : [My talk] | [|Contribs] | [|Main] 02:50, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

April Featured Images

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Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for April. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many...
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 04:55, 1 March 2022 (UTC)

How about this-

File:Tutorial library.png
Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions

How about this?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 17:52, 12 March 2022 (UTC)

This??

Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 14:42, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

Updated. I decided to do a sort of "special edition" of the Featured Images this month and showcased three interesting April Fools' jokes from past years on Scratch. That said, I'll reply to my new topic with File:Forever behavior.png and File:Tutorial in project.png so that they are considered next month. (Vdiu: that image was already featured in July 2019.

)

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:05, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Replacing file in Contents

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Another file (File:TOC website.png) can be replaced by the vector version (File:TOC website.svg). The file dimensions will need to be specified and padding needs to be added below to make the image align with the other contents items (test at User:CrazyBoy826/Scratch Wiki Home.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 01:08, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

That image looks much worse than the png, so for the time being replace it with File:TOC website 3.0.png.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 22:05, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

I'd argue the svg looks better, it just also looks more obviously different. I'd say this is probably something that needs discussion, though, so I've moved it here.

Those joining us on the CP: Which of the three images linked above looks better? And is it worth changing?

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 00:50, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

I think the File:TOC website 3.0.png looks better

Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 11:46, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

I would say that File:TOC website 3.0.png looks better so I would say change it.

Adzboy (talk | contribs) 06:38, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

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Hi, on some pages, like my April Fools Userpage and My Sandbox, using '{{DISPLAYTITLE:''pagename''}}' doesn't work and title remains the same a the link. Can someone tell me why this happens?
Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions

The text in DISPLAYTITLE must be the same as the original page name. On your April Fools page, you tried to make the title say "Evil User:Vdiu", which is different than "Scratch Wiki:April Fools/Vdiu".
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 16:42, 18 March 2022 (UTC)

Oh. So DISPLAYTITLE can only be used to format the original title?

Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions

Tip of the Day

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The Tip of the Day project was started some time ago. I think it is a very good idea, but not much work has been done on it. It will take a very long time before we have 366 tips (one for each day of the year).

Instead of having that many tips, we can start with the tips we have and randomly post one on Scratch Wiki Home each day. There are already enough tips to start doing this. Having the tips on Scratch Wiki Home will also encourage more editors to add tips. (At User:CrazyBoy826/Scratch Wiki Home, there is a version of the home page with a section for tips.)

Instead of having one tip for each day of the year, we can have a human (or bot) randomly select one of the tips to be posted on the home page (similar to how News works). This will encourage more editors to suggest tips that we can post later.

Thoughts and suggestions?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 19:10, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I currently believe this is a good idea as I think it would be a useful addition to the homepage. Just one question, would the tips be related to articles on the Wiki? For example, a tip about using a certain type of block and having a link to that block's page on the Wiki.

Adzboy (talk | contribs) 19:22, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

The tips would have links, but they would not necessarily be related to individual articles. See User:Bigpuppy/Tip of the Day for more information.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 00:17, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Ah, ok then.

Support

Adzboy (talk | contribs) 06:48, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

I think this is a good way to bring back tip of the day without too much extra work

Support

Godslamb (talk | contribs) 15:54, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

Nice idea, I support. There are only 365 days and there are 2 type of tips and also there can be enough tips for 365 days soon but why not start with putting 1 tip for a week? and once we get enough tips we can start with the original plan of a new tip everyday and Bigpuppy itself update the homepage maybe. We can first check all tips in both scratch and scratch wiki tip of the day sections and delete the duplicates. We can use the same tips which display there 1st on the project page.

Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs)

This seems like a great way for Scratchers to learn new (albeit possibly not useful) things.

Support

NFlex23 (Talk • 104 Contribs • Scratch) 11:44, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Support

Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions 07:06, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Part 4 of the welcome tutorial says there is a "Comment" tab while it's really called "New topic"

Resolved ^{(since 03:15, 25 March 2022 (UTC))}

This really confused me at first, and since I don't have editing rights on that page, I can't fix it. Here's what it says: "If you're not responding to someone else, but are posting about something new, use the "Comment" tab at the top of the talk page to create a new section, which automatically goes at the bottom of the page." I propose "Comment" be switched with "New topic" to help new wikians such as myself.
NFlex23 (Talk • 104 Contribs • Scratch) 22:11, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

I fixed this and also reworded it to be more clear. Thanks for pointing out this mistake!

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 03:15, 25 March 2022 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki Humor Category

Resolved ^{(since 18:39, 29 March 2022 (UTC))}

I want to create a category called Category:Scratch Wiki Humor, which will list all of the humorous pages and files I can find. Is that OK?
EddyTheFox12 (talk | contribs) 11:27, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Please do not do this. Content on the Wiki needs to be serious, the only exceptions are April Fools pages and one small easter egg. Humorous images are only applicable in userspace or for April Fools' pages, both of which already have their own categories, and similarly for pages userpages don't have their own categories and April Fools' pages already have their own category.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:36, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Well, that makes sense.

EddyTheFox12 (talk | contribs) 18:39, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Outdate template

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

I found 1 outdated template (Template:Forums). Can I update it?
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 10:38, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

What part of the template would you like to update? Everything looks okay to me.

wangat talk • contribs • profile 13:09, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

The All about scraych forum in archived forums and a few more forums which no longer exist so I would like to move then to archived forums area.

Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 08:32, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes. I see it. My prototype (omitting the noinclude section):

Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 18:26, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

I will add it with all about scratch in archived forums section.

Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 11:39, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

May Featured Images

Resolved ^{(since 18:41, 1 May 2022 (UTC))}

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for May. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many...
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:06, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

File:Cloud_Variable_Creation.png,File:Variable_Monitors.png,File:Comment_3.0.PNG,:File:VectorTools.png are my suggestions.

Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 20:15, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

In March, File:Forever behavior.png was suggested by CrazyBoy826 and File:Tutorial in project.png was suggested by Purvitekriwal. I decided to do a "special edition" of the Featured Images in April with different April Fools' Day images from past years. As such, I didn't use these suggestions, but I think they both could be good for May.

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:08, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

I will try and find some good ones

Adzboy (talk | contribs) 19:18, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

What about File:3.0 Sound Editor.png?

Adzboy (talk | contribs) 19:20, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Updated

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 18:41, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

The Things To Do Issue(No things to Do)

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

The issue is that it links. Community Portal Not Done. And there are a few/no things to do Potential Solutions:

Make 2 versions of S:CPND (1 for discussions, 1 for things to do)
Make 2 versions of S:CPND (Make Things To Do link to a page that is a list of things to do (possibly transuding/linking serval categories (Pages to Improve, and others).
A Things To Do category

Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs)

Dark mode visual editor problem

Resolved ^{(since 17:10, 3 April 2022 (UTC))}

Done Gonna post this as well as in the forums, because the portal in the forums has too much spam. So anyway, using the dark mode theme and the visual editor makes some text un-readable. Since I'm not experienced with posting images here, I will link my forum post with a screenshot in it. Forum topic
-gr (talk | contribs) 23:59, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for finding an issue, but this was already mentioned in #The_Wiki_now_has_(beta)_dark_theme!
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 00:10, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks.

-gr (talk | contribs) 17:10, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Should I make a page about wrgsfhwbxvb?

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

I know gibberish is considered not related to scratch, but this is a username of the first person to join scratch. So technically this is related to scratch. But the other question is that is being the first to join scratch an exception of users with pages that don't have wiki accounts?
Mr-Argon (talk | contribs) 17:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC)Mr-Argon

wrgsfhwbxvb is mentioned in other articles, but I do not think it is notable enough to have its own separate article.

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 18:02, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

Impossible to preview scratch blocks syntax

Resolved ^{(since April 2022)}

It is impossible to preview scratch blocks syntax. For example, when I edit the page, I do not see scratch blocks turned into scratch blocks.

when gf clicked

All I see is "when gf clicked" until I exit editing mode. I just see raw syntax.
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 00:44, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I believe this has been brought up previously and, as far as I can tell it can be fixed by having the page refresh when you enter preview mode. The option to have the page refresh when entering preview mode can be found in your preferences at the bottom of the "Edit" section.

Adzboy (talk | contribs) 06:48, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Known

12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 13:31, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

Pages to Create

Resolved ^{(since 07:27, 6 April 2022 (UTC))}

I try and create pages that will help everyone, but all of mine keep getting deleted because the Wiki does not need the pages I need. Are there any pages that need creating?
Helloheart (talk | contribs) 01:17, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Take a look around, if you think there are any large blank gaps then feel free to create a page to fill them. Make sure the title is grammatically correct and you follow the Wiki editing guidelines.

Adzboy (talk | contribs) 07:27, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Is it possible to use Wikimedia Commons images?

Resolved ^{(since 16:12, 8 April 2022 (UTC))}

Is it possible to use Wikimedia Commons images? Or should I reupload them to the scratch wiki?
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 15:59, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

They need to be reuploaded. However, (with a few exceptions) WM Commons images are licensed under CC licenses so you can upload them here with appropriate credit given to the original uploader.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:12, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

Scratch blocks in wiki?

Resolved ^{(since 12:36, 9 April 2022 (UTC))}

Hello im new, I just wonder how to put scratch blocks in a wiki topic?
RandomCocconut (talk | contribs) 12:30, 9 April 2022 (UTC))

You can find an article on it here

Adzboy (talk | contribs) 12:36, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

Small question

Resolved ^{(since 01:43, 11 April 2022 (UTC))}

As we can use html, can I use website widgets in my profile page?
RandomCocconut (talk | contribs) 18:41, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

I doubt it, but I think if it were a whitelisted domain, it would be fine... Get more confirmation from a staff though.
-unsigned comment by 12944qwerty (talk | contribs)

You can only use a limited subset of HTML. My guess is that the widget you want to use requires a <img /> or <iframe /> tag, neither of which is available in MediaWiki.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:43, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

Correct name for new article

Resolved ^{(since 22:04, 11 April 2022 (UTC))}

I'm thinking about making a article about workarounds for rejected blocks. What should it be called?
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 18:41, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

I don't think an article is needed specifically for this purpose. We can just as easily add a section or a small paragraph for each rejected block.

12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 21:22, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

The already existing article about block workarounds is the best option. Don't create a new article.

Dhuls (Talk|873 Contributions|Scratch) 21:24, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

We already have that here. However please make sure only to put the most commonly suggested ideas.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:04, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

A postmortem on the censor outage

Resolved ^{(since 21:28, 13 April 2022 (UTC))}

Hi everyone,

As many of you are aware, there was an outage in the censor yesterday allowing people to post inappropriate comments and create inappropriate accounts. I just wanted to share my thoughts related to the Wiki on it (I have plenty of other thoughts as to what happened within the Scratch community and the Scratch Team's response, but that's for another time and place). Also, these generally represent my own thoughts and necessarily official policy.

First, in terms of when we documented this: I and the other EW+ didn't make any sort of public announcement, but as soon as I saw this was happening I started keeping a close eye on recent changes since I didn't us want to publicize a glitch that had a major potential (and actual) impact, as this likely would have led to people either trying to "test" the filter, or worse, actively abusing it and posting inappropriate comments. However once the Scratch Team had undertaken the appropriate mitigations until they could fix it (i.e. disabling comments) I created the article since there was no longer potential for abuse, and a section was independently added to the Censor article around the same time by another editor. In terms of this I think we handled the situation pretty well, and going forwards should follow a similar policy: don't document safety/security issues where it is obvious how to abuse them until appropriate mitigations are in place (this is unofficial Wiki policy and I think we should consider making this official).

Second, in terms of how we documented this: we did the best with what we had. Of course, the Scratch Team deleted a number of forum posts for various reasons (again, I am not commenting on that), so in my edits I made sure to include the relevant quote when referencing these forum posts and I saw other editors did the same thing. Going forwards, if a forum post seems likely to be deleted, please make sure to include the actual quote and not just the link. Again, everyone did a pretty good job of this.

Third, in terms of creating a separate article: I think for rapidly unfolding events (only other one I can think of in recent memory is the Question Mark Glitch), as kenny2scratch stated on the talk page, we should generally make them their own page at the time and then once the dust has settled consider whether or not they should remain their own articles. This keeps the inevitable disruption caused by a large number of edits in quick succession by many editors as more information becomes available limited to one article and avoids disruption to other articles. For now it's its own article, but the dust seems mostly to have settled so if you have thoughts as to whether or not it should remain its own article or just be a section in Censor, please explain your thoughts the talk page.

Finally, a new template was created by ahmetlii: {{Current}}. This can be used to indicate rapidly unfolding events. I don't think it will be used that much (there are very few cases of "breaking news" on Scratch) but it's good to have around and we should use that in any future situations where new information is constantly coming to light or the situation could easily change at a moment's notice.

So, in all, I think we as a community handled the situation pretty well on the Wiki. Thank you everyone who helped out, and if more information becomes available please add it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:28, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

I agree on your first point, it is probably a good idea to refrain from documenting safety/security issues where it is obvious how to abuse them as that could encourage users to come close to or break the community guidelines which could get them banned and/or cause a security/privacy issue.

Adzboy (talk | contribs) 19:50, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

I have made some changes to wordings of the template in my sandbox. If it is ok can you add the same there as well(just the changed words as I changed a bit of code by mistake as well.

Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 12:50, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Possibly add a magic word for last update if that's possible.

Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 19:47, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Tutorial box on dark theme is hard to read

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

I think the tutorial box is hard to read on dark theme because it is gray-on-white. See my image: I would like to see it either:

The tutorial box is darker, OR
The text is darker.

Just something to consider about dark theme :-)
Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) | contribs (711) | directory 13:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

I have noticed this problem too

Adzboy (talk | contribs) 17:08, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Any way to contact a Scratch Wiki administrator privately?

Resolved ^{(since 22:04, 14 April 2022 (UTC))}

I'd like a revision of my userpage to be deleted. ♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 21:42, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

A report option does exist for revisions of pages, you could use that.

Dhuls (Talk|873 Contributions|Scratch) 21:45, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, in this case please report the revision you want deleted. You can find the report button by opening the diff.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:04, 14 April 2022 (UTC)

scratch is down!

Resolved ^{(since 21:46, 19 April 2022 (UTC))}

i assume it was something to do with the userbar. but i dont actually know. its in maintenance mode.
Mrrecordman (talk | contribs) 15:40, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

there was some really weird topic on the forum that said scratch should shut down becuase of low security (dont quote me)

Xenon-dev-group (talk | contribs) 15:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

i had no idea. also i editid some of yourpost to fix a spelling error.

Mrrecordman (talk | contribs) 15:55, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Does this need to be on the CP? It doesn't seem like a big enough event to make an article for.

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 15:58, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Mrrecordman please don't edit other people's posts. I have changed it back to what it was before.

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 16:02, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

but i cant talk on scratch or access it

Xenon-dev-group (talk | contribs) 16:19, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Maintenance Mode doesn't mention any specific events other than the page being updated, so this is probably too minor to be mentioned (unless it goes on for longer).
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 16:39, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Uh, scratch is no longer down, I can access it!
GAMS2 (talk | contribs) 16:50, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Scratch Outage on 19 April 2022 was already created. it could be merged with maintenance Mode.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 16:55, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

In the past we haven't created articles on site outages. If there were a very large scale one (like a day or more) or it otherwise had a major impact it may be worth creating one in that case, but since this outage was only a few hours and didn't really cause any major upheaval, I don't think it's worth documenting. For some comparison, the reason the filterbot outage was documented was because it did have a major impact considering the amount of inappropriate usernames and comments and such that came in a short amount of time.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:46, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Formatting Issue

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

I had made a template called {{User:Vdiu/UserpageLogo}} and when I used it on my wiki profile, the formatting extended to all the text under the template. How do I make the formatting only stay within the template?
Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions

To fix this, you need to close HTML tags. For example, if there is a <span> tag, it needs to have a corresponding </span> tag.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 14:40, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Where do I put the span Tags?

Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions 09:35, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia link template

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

Many pages would benefit from a visible box with a link to Wikipedia articles. This would be similar to wikipedia:Template:Wiktionary, which has a box on the right with a link. For example, Solving Exponents could have a link to wikipedia:Exponent. Is this a good idea?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 23:32, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Maybe, as long as the article can actually benefit from having it.

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 05:28, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

I think it really depends on the article and the corresponding Wikipedia article. The pages we use it on would have to benefit from the addition for it to be useful.

Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 16:52, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

Is it fine to add in a post not from a ST member?

Resolved ^{(since an unknown date)}

I'm a new editor so I'm still getting to know the Scratch Wiki. I have gone through the Welcome tutorial already. I saw an article about variables and a section had a "citation needed" footnote. I searched for a reference and I spotted a forum post that proved the point. However, it wasn't by a Scratch Team member. Would it be okay to link it or do I need a more reliable source? https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/993562/ is the post. Thanks! (Sorry if I made this too long!)

Ham19-01-2011 (talk | contribs) 09:46, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

It's fine to cite a post by a non Scratch Team member.

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 14:28, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll keep that in mind!

Ham19-01-2011 (talk | contribs) 09:56, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

There is actually no limit.

Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 13:56, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

Should I create this article?

Resolved ^{(since an unknown date)}

I was thinking of creating an article about the blurry block glitch. I read the guidelines for creating an article and it said that you should only create a new article about a bug or glitch if it was extremely prominent. Additionally, it also mentioned that it should be a section in the article of the feature if it was not prominent. I am not entirely sure if this is prominent, or if I should include this in the "blocks" page or not.
Ham19-01-2011 (talk | contribs) 17:48, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

There was a section about it in the Scratch Bugs article, but it was removed. There's a discussion about readding it here.

Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 20:34, 22 April 2022 (UTC)

How to link to a category

Resolved ^{(since 22:24, 25 April 2022 (UTC))}

Im working on a post here about categories and I need to refrance specific categories. How can I link to a category without categorizing the page?
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 18:34, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

[[:Category:<category name>]] (add a colon before "Category".)
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 22:24, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

Should we remove the current front page curator from the list of future ones?

Resolved ^{(since 17:14, 30 April 2022 (UTC))}

In this article: List of front page curators, the current front page curator(FollowCherryBlossom) is mentioned in the 'Current Front Page Curator' section, as well as the 'Future Front Page Curators' section. As they are no longer going to be curator in the future, should they be removed from that section?
Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 15:04, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I think so.

Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 08:11, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

Done I updated the list. The current curator should not be listed on the future curator page.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 17:14, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

June Featured Images

Resolved ^{(since 02:42, 4 June 2022 (UTC))}

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for June. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many...
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 18:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

I'll have a look around and see if there's any good ones.

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 19:06, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

What about File:ScratchCatJr.png?

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 19:13, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

How about File:Name_Bar.png? Or File:SeeInsideButton.png?

kccuber(talk:: operators)(userpage:: extension)(scratch:: sensing)(contribs:: motion) 02:29, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

Updated

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:42, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Oh no

I accidentally remove to much on the April fools page for costume, when I was just trying to remove a template. Please revert this.
Petaldancer66 (talk | contribs)

I fixed the edit. To undo an edit, you can go to the page history and click "undo".
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 23:36, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

As CrazyBoy826 stated. You can revert edits by going to edit history for that page and selecting "Undo" on the edit you want to revert.

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 07:06, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

Abuse filter not working

The abuse filter that stops users from uploading images without a category does not seem to be working, as a user uploaded an image without putting on a category.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 22:38, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

Odd, doesn't the ignore warnings button let you do that? I've never actually used it so I don't know how it works.

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 08:06, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

The ignore warning button does not ignore this edit filter. The filter seems to be working now, but earlier today, 3 non-EWs somehow uploaded files without any comment.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 01:19, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what's going on there then.

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 05:47, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

No talk page

Resolved ^{(since 04:14, 7 May 2022 (UTC))}

Why is there no talk page on the page Scrolling_with_Listswhen there is the stub template?
Bluepig600(Talk - Contributes) 03:34, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Articles may not have talk pages because no one has started a discussion yet. If a talk page does not exist, feel free to create it.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 04:14, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Okay thank you.

Bluepig600(Talk - Contributes) 21:20, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Can I put in Consider Collabs?

Resolved ^{(since an unknown date)}

May I add in some stuff to the List of Controversial Topics on Scratch related to TurboWarp noticing that the Scratch Team may or may not fix the unshared projects bug, and that campaign I created to stop it (aka Consider Collabs), or does that count as self-promo? It's beginning to take off with over 1000+ views in one day.
Minikiwigeek2 (talk | contribs) 15:42, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

You are proberbly OK to write sections not about your movement, but for your movement, have someone else write it or at least check over it.

Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 15:50, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Personally, I think that the section should be about the unshared project bug fix in general. I don't think that one topic, even one that's that popular, is notable enough for its own section.

Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 16:57, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Alright everyone, thanks for the help! i actually put in the section before all of you replied, so ill adjust things accordingly.

Minikiwigeek2 (talk | contribs) 17:46, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

So I removed the considercollabs bit and just made it in general.
-unsigned comment by Minikiwigeek2 (talk | contribs)

All tutorials?

In the scripting tutorial section with 129 or 128 tutorials in it, I noticed a tutorial on making a tycoon game isn't on the scripting tutorial category and I'm not talking about with a gubo on it I mean the updated list of tutorials so anyway I can have a list of every single scratch wiki tutorial without 1 missing?

TonGames (talk | contribs) 20:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)TonGames
TonGames (talk | contribs) 20:43, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Tycoon Projects is categorized as a project type. However, most of it is a tutorial, so that part could be split into a new article.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 22:22, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Respect my privacy

I've "quit" scratch per say, and I haven't been active here since mid-to-late 2019 and I've completely moved to YouTube. The problem is that my Minecraft account shares the same name as my Scratch one, so if somebody Googles old Minecraft name (that I will change), they will see my old stuff that I find embarrassing. I would like if you:

Removed my Wiki stuff from search engine results
Reverted all of my edits
Change my name to "Deleted User" on the wiki
Remove my user & talk pages
Remove all mentions of me from the site

Thank you.
Whatsfordinner77|💬Talk|🔧Contribs|🐱Scratch 06:23, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

As far as I know, it might be impossible to remove almost everything about you on this wiki, and username renames here can only be done if the corresponding Scratch account has had its name changed on Scratch by the Scratch Team (under very limited circumstances, which I do not think can be done for your case)

Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:29, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you find your time here embarrassing. However, let me show you why each of your requests are at least somewhat impossible:

In general, we do not control search engine results. It is possible to exclude specific pages from search engine indexing by using the __NOINDEX__ magic word on each page; if you want to do that to your userpages, you can, but we will not allow you to put it on every page you've ever edited, as it is in the Wiki's interest that they are indexed.
Your edits are contributions to the corpus of knowledge that is the Wiki. Reverting all of them would be widely destructive and therefore tantamount to vandalism.
Wiki username changes reflect main-site username changes. Unless the Scratch Team changes your Scratch username to "Deleted_User", this will not happen. (That username is also too generic, especially since account deletion does exist on Scratch.)
You can place a {{delete}} on your userpage if it matters that much. However, deleting or blanking your user talk page would be a violation of userspace of all the people who have posts on it; unless in the latter case you archive the blanked topics somewhere, but that would defeat your purpose.
"All mentions" can be interpreted in increasingly extreme ways, but assuming you mean remove your name from both page content and history, that is much the same as "revert all of [your] edits" and is impossible for the same reasons.

Side note: If EU/UK law applies to you and you wish to exercise your GDPR right to account deletion, you can find contact info for that purpose in our Privacy Policy. However, note that even in that case, the content of your edits (which may include your name) cannot be removed as it is protected under a reuse-permitted license; all we can do is scrub you from the metadata.

This is how it's been for pretty much ever, minus some small developments (renaming users is new). Sorry there isn't really much more we can do.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:59, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Installing the Math extension?

Resolved ^{(since 16:17, 17 June 2022 (UTC))}

I think the Math Extension would be very helpful for displaying formulas, Especially for complex formulas. It allows math formulas to be displayed like written out on paper, not using the condensed-onto-one-line notation.
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 19:40, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Could you please give a few examples of articles where this would be useful?

jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:08, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

How_to_Use_Complex_Numbers_in_Scratch, List_of_Mathematical_Functions_Done_in_Scratch, Trigonometry, Using_Vectors, and many more pages in Category:Math Tutorials
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 22:12, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

I'm installing this on the staging wiki to see if it will work ok with SWS and our custom extensions.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:19, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

Good idea

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 20:54, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

After some testing on my local installation and staging to make sure it doesn't interfere with the skin or any other extensions, I have confirmed that this works. The math extension is now installed, and you can see an example in my sandbox. Please let me know if you have any issues.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:17, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Cool!

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 17:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

English privacy policy

Currently, the wiki's privacy policy is in German, which is great for people who speak German!
Unfortunately, I, along with many other people, don't speak German well, if at all. As a result of this, I'm proposing that we translate, for informational purposes, the privacy policy to English (and other languages) for non-German speakers. Where there is translation discrepancy/contradiction in a court of law, the German version shall govern, and as a result it will remain legally binding (and I would suggest such a disclaimer that goes along the lines of "The German version is legally binding. Any translations into other languages are for informational purposes only, and in the event of a conflict between the German version and the version in any other language, solely the text of the German version shall govern."). I'm sure a party will disclose that non-German speaking users can use Google translate to translate the policy but it's far from perfect (I would add more examples but the ones I did find were somewhat profane), and meaning gets drastically lost, and in a more severe manner than translation (to the point where, possibly, the entire document differs entirely to the original).
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,231)) 17:47, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that would definitely be useful. I also can't speak German, only English and a bit of a few other languages so this would be useful.

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 19:30, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

i cant speak german. i only speak english. so this would definutley be useful

Mrrecordman (talk | contribs) 09:13, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Community Portal Not Done is very large

The Community Portal Not Done page is very big (240,679 bytes.)(I do not know if that is too big) We could make some discussions subpages. Here are the biggest topics: We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach":45,702 bytes Relax S:NOSP even more:45,553 bytes I could not find anything else nearly that big.
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 00:40, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

The Not Done page is very long, but I don't think putting the discussions on subpages would benefit the page. It is easy enough to edit, as there are edit buttons on every section, and placing discussions on separate pages would make it harder for users to reply. (also, separating discussions would not reduce page load times)
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 02:06, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Here's a Scratch Wiki Example Project!

https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/698249757

Here is a project that you can use in example images without giving credit. Enjoy!

Minikiwigeek2 (talk | contribs) 23:50, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Good idea, but I think we already have one.

Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 00:32, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Aww...

Minikiwigeek2 (talk | contribs) 00:37, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

How do I center files?

Hi! So, I am creating my user page, and I am trying to upload my Scratch profile picture to my user page. I figured it out, and the wonderful wiki let me put my profile picture there! =D Then, I noticed it was a little to the right. I saved my changes to my user page so you could see what I mean. Can someone please tell me how to center it? Whoever's helping me has permission to edit my user page so they can center it for me. :) Thanks and have a wonderful day! :D
MadelynGH (talk | contribs) 22:16, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

I've centred it for you. Feel free to change it or undo the edit if you want to. You can look in the edit history to see what I did.

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 10:01, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

It works like this:[[File:Gobo.svg|center]] will output

Hope this helps!
♣　-iviedwall-　talk　contributions　🐱 09:16, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Template anonymous parameters don't work if they contain inline css

I just noticed that template arguments don't work with inline css. But i ran into an issue: Inline css makes the parameter act like it was not set. Here is the that is the parameter:<div style="color:red">Red Text</div>. And it works! The output is

Red Text

But as soon as I put a template around it:{{scratchwikiframe|title|<div style="color:red">Red Text</div>}}

title

{{{2}}}

The text does not work! Removing the style makes the expected result, but without the styling
(code:{{scratchwikiframe|title|<div>Text</div>}}) resulting in

title

Text

It does work if you use number = before the parameter:
{{scratchwikiframe|title|2=<div style="color:red">Red Text</div>}}

title

Red Text

Can someone please explain?
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 16:43, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

July Featured Images

Resolved ^{(since 22:36, 1 July 2022 (UTC))}

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for July. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many...
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:43, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

How about File:Scratch 3.0 Project Page.png?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,151 edits | Scratch 17:58, 4 June 2022 (UTC)

Updated. @CrazyBoy826—unfortunately, that image has already been featured in the past.

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 22:36, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Possible new TOC Design (or just better way to have multiple columns)

I have made a (possible) new design using scratchwikiframe. Or we can just use the new grid css so it uses the entire width. You can View them here and here.
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 00:11, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Welcome

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

Hi, I've just made a Welcome Template so I was wondering - how do you know when a new wikian joins?
Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions 14:10, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Check recent changes or the user creation log.

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 15:40, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Where are those?

Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions

Recent Changes and New users. In addition, please remember to sign your posts with 4 tiles ~~~~ in future.

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 16:12, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I've made the template and stuff, but there is one glitch - the border envelops all other posts under it. Can someone look at the Welcome Template and tell me the glitch?
Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions 11:01, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

ScratchBlocks4 - how to add Russian blocks

I administer educational wiki site digida.mgpu.ru and try to use ScratchBlocks4 extension for my students. It work nicely, but only in English. When I try to add $wgScratchBlocks4Langs = ['Ru', 'rus']; it doesn't work - may be i must use different letters. Thank you!

There is source of my knowledge how to use ScratchBlocks https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki/mw-ScratchBlocks4

Patarakin (talk | contribs) 06:48, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@Patarakin: Did you try $wgScratchBlocks4Langs = ['ru'];, rather than writing it with a capital letter? It should work.

Note that you probably also need to translate the block syntax from English to Russian in case it doesn't work (because it will not be directly translated by the software from what I know. This tool is handy for translation.

ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 07:16, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

@Ahmetlii - thanks a lot! It really help me

Patarakin (talk | contribs) 12:57, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

Unresolved and Resolved

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

Lots of people forget to put the {{unresolved}} template when they make a new post. I suggest that the unresolved template should be put automatically when a user makes a new post. Edit- I forgot to put the template too XD
Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions

I believe there's no way to implement that without a bot. I am concerned that there would be many edgecases that the bot would have to handle, but it's not impossible. Whether it would benefit the wiki enough is open to discussion.

ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 23:39, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

PS: Don't remove time while signing the post.

I don't think this is a task worth automating for the reasons ahmetlii said. As the person who would likely be implementing and maintaining this, I am concerned about all the possible ways this could fail with minimal benefit to the Wiki.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:37, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Custom Signature

Resolved ^{(since 18:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC))}

The Custom Signatures article is confusing and hard to understand. Can I make a simplified version (with only the major points) titled as 'Scratch Wiki:Custom Signatures (Simplified)'?
Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions 12:45, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

All the rules are there for a reason, and having a simplified version would both have the rules in two different places (meaning they may conflict with each other) and may miss important rules. What part of it is unclear to you?

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:36, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Right now the article has lots of text which is not part of the tutorial. Also, it is written without line gaps in between so it looks very cramped. It was so cramped that I even missed a point while creating my sig.

Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions 02:39, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

That page is more than just a tutorial, it is also a list of rules and an explanation of custom signatures. It is also standard practice to list in bullet points like that. Ultimately contributing to the Wiki requires reading and understanding the rules.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:43, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

Ok.

Vdiu | Talk Page | Contributions 10:21, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

August Featured Images

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for August. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many...
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 22:36, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

How about advanced colour palette?

Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 08:02, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

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