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Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,225edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Done.
Updated the list as the author.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,225edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Updated!
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,225edit 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Updated.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,225edit 14:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Logging server faults

No Never Done

See dedicated subpage
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Change external Scratch links to interwiki links automatically

Yes Done
It could be helpful. So, I suggest it.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
15:23, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

TemplatesFTW already does that; or do you mean a different way of automating it? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:02, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Do you mean that you don't have to use the external link markup when linking a scratch profile, ect...? That could be helpful...
ContourLines Logo.png ContourLines Talk | Contributions | Directory 06:57, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
@ContourLines — you already don't have to use the external markup. In fact, S:STYLE says not to use the external link markup (see #internal-scratch-links). You can use [[users:USERNAME]] for users, [[studios:ID]] for studios, and [[projects:ID]] for projects. Ahmetlii suggested to change external links to these interwiki links automatically, then I said that TemplatesFTW already does it. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:50, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
I actually proposed the Scratch Links and added it to S:STYLE (: Anyway, I didn't see that TemplatesFTW does that, yea, I think it was good to add it to the bot.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  03:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Ahmetlii, I think this is Yes Done; is that correct? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

How do I make a fill width CSS for SWS2

As per title.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  21:11, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! September 24th, 2020

Welcome to the 32nd Thankful Thursday! September 24th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for everything you've done to help the Wiki ;-;
    Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  16:24, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Without a doubt, you've been an amazing administrator around the wiki. Especially with patrolling these days with a lot of edits in Recent Changes, it takes a lot of work and effort. I don't know what I'd do without your help. Thank you!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for literally spamming activity on the Wiki and also for thanking millions of people, that's some gratitude and effort.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 14:15, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for being so active! We appreciate editors like you! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • A big thanks to you for your activity, keep going! I also really like the blur effect you incorporated in your header. :)
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
ThatOneWeirdDude (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your edits recently! I'm glad you decided to join the wiki! I hope you decide to continue! :D
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
VFDan (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your recent contributions, such as those to discussions! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Naleksuh (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for making so many constructive edits to the wiki! It is clear that you have a talent for editing, so thank you for using that talent to help the Scratch Wiki. (Thanks also for your help in upgrading MediaWiki!) :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your massive amounts of bold contributions, we really appreciate what you are doing here. You've been a great editor!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
12944qwerty (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for your constructive contributions to discussions! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your work with Wiki Wednesday and other initiatives such as the New User Recommendations program! :D
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for being such an intuitive SW member - always finding new ideas to improve it, introducing new tactics, and being an awesome helper in general!
    -unsigned comment by Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs)
4096bits (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for all your edits! Even though you just started this month, you are already proving yourself as a helpful member of our community. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your many contributions lately! Keep it up!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you so much for being consistently active and helpful. You're a wonderful editor and community member! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • All throughout the year, you have been active and cooperative. Thank you for your dedication to the wiki!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)
  • I can't thank you enough for your work patrolling and reviewing account requests. You bring a friendly and upbeat attitude to the wiki, and it's been great working with you. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Petition to add an auto-thank feature for absolutely amazing people
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 14:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Am395397 (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for the interesting food for thought you posted on my talk page (for those who haven't seen it, it is here and here). :P
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
banana439monkey (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your work as an Experienced Wikian; I and others appreciate you! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs)
  • Welcome back, and thanks for your edits recently! You are greatly appreciated as a Scratch and Scratch Wiki community member. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Ayyy, you're back and already contributing a lot! Thank you for your edits!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Leahcimto (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your edits and activity recently! I hope you are having fun editing the wiki, since your edits are greatly appreciated. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Apple502j (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for being such a large help in finding and fixing vulnerabilities, and for being a great Experienced Wikian! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for helping with those Recent Changes issues people were having, and generally thank you for all of the technical help apart from mere edits too!
    -unsigned comment by Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs)
jakel181 (talk | contribs)
  • As always, thanks for running Thankful Thursday and helping the wiki in other ways, such as by reviewing account requests. Everyone here appreciates you! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for being my humorous friend who trolled me using German and English! I'll never forgot that!
    -unsigned comment by Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs)
ArtsyStrawberry (talk | contribs)
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for everything you've done for the wiki, from the day you joined to today. I'm glad that you decided to join the wiki, since you're an integral part of our community. It's great that you've found time to help us out even during your studies, though I know you are aware that at this point in time your studies are much more important than editing the wiki. ;)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • You spend so much effort on taking care of the Wiki, it's honestly mesmerizing. It's hard to keep your focus on thing like that, and you take care of it so much and help sooo many people. You're amazing!
    -unsigned comment by Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs)
Dominic305 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for being so active recently! You are greatly appreciated as an editor and person. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for helping me with that Recent Changes bug!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 14:52, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Illusion705 (talk | contribs)
jvvg (talk | contribs)
  • I'm not sure what the wiki would do without you. And I'm not just saying that to be nice; I'm really not sure what the wiki would do without you. The fact that you've been contributing impeccable edits, code, and admin work to the wiki since 2012—with little to nothing except the joy of contributing in return—is admirable. This is made even more impressive by the fact that you now have a job and are still active. I think I can speak for all editors when I say thank you. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Whenever I need help or I need some bureaucrat action, you're pretty much always available to respond. You've dedicated so much time to the wiki, I can't thank you enough for it!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for making sure the wikis have a home. Wonderful things happen here, and you make them possible. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
NYCDOT (talk | contribs)
Jammum (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for being so active, suggesting so many things on the Community Portal, editing many pages, and participating in so many discussions! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 04:02, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for writing this comment. I feel it is very well-written, and has a calm and respectful demeanor. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 04:09, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


The next TT is, October 29th, see you then!

Yes Done
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
12:28, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

wow big thanks
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  12:43, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Whoa! Thanks! :)
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 430 Contribs 13:06, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Merge Check users and Supressors user groups with bureaucrats or administrators

Except for the Interface Admin user group, two other user groups were added in the new MediaWiki upgrade. They are mentioned in the title of this topic. I think those groups are unnecessary and could be merged and have their rights moved to other usergroups.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 05:24, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

These were actually removed already removed in 28, but were inadvertently restored by the upgrade. However, I personally feel like they should not be removed for a number of reasons:
1) CheckUser and Suppressor inherently mean access to confidential information, which is usually specifically mentioned in the privacy policy. Voting in users for bureaucrat should not typically result in access to private information.
2) Users who have access to such information generally are scrutinized much more than users who do not. Suppressors need to deal with PII like real names, home addresses, and anything else like that. It is not the role of a bureaucrat to handle stuff like that.
3) Scratch Wiki has a tendency to treat user groups like a hierarchy (i.e. Bureaucrat is better than sysop, which is better than Experienced Wikian). I think that these three new user groups help remove this bad aura.
4) Bureaucrat does not have an age requirement, but I do not want minors to have access to the information that CheckUsers and Suppressors do.
There are a number of other reasons as well that they should not be merged, but this is just off the top of my head. Comments about Interface admin can be directed to a couple threads above this, which I assume Jammum has seen.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 05:37, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
For your last statement, literally 99% of users are under the age of 18. I'm a minor, and I feel extremely offended by this comment. It just enforces a stereotype that everyone under the age of 13 is dumb. Also, it wouldn't be a fair opportunity for everyone. I know that admins are encouraged to have access to the discord server, but it is not mandatory.
For your 2nd statement, there isn't much personal info on my (and everyone else's) account. As long as you trust (or the majority trusts) the user, you'll be fine.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  12:38, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't see anything about 'all people under 13 are dumb' in the post above yours. Also there is definently personal info in our accounts - I wouldn't really want people to be able to see my email address.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
15:56, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Support to @Dominic305. There's also a legal side; we must ensure that someone is not using emails for email hacking or phishing - that's why we must give these roles to people that older 13 (for juridical capacity) and trusted users by the community. This doesn't mean that people under 13 is dumb, but that's risky - give a user that does not have juridical capacity may make unwanted legal consequences.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
16:13, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
After reading these, I have a proposal. There should be 2 bureaucrat ranks. One for users under the age of 13, and one for users over the age of 13. If a user is elected or appointed bureaucrat, and they happen to be underage, they would get a similar rank to normal bureaucrat but the permissions regarding the viewing and changing of personal information would be removed. This wouldn't be publicised unless the user does it themselves.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  18:09, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Imho nobody needs to have those perms. And just because somebody is over 13, they're automatically not going to do anything malicious with the emails? I signed up with my personal email, and I don't want anybody to know my name (I prefer anonymity). Besides, how would you know they are 13? I can easily say I'm 22, although that's a blatant lie. How would allowing any user group to view emails benefit the wiki?
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  20:44, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

First of all, the age in question would be 18 and not 13 as 13-year-olds are still minors and are not legally able to sign non-disclosure agreements (although they are able to be bound by privacy policies). Also, I think that simply having two groups based on age only (halfway) solves one of the issues at hand and does not solve any of the others. For example, one could be granted CheckUser/Supressor and not bureaucrat; or bureaucrat and not CheckUser/Suppressor. The two groups should not be merged into bureaucrat, and I think that having seperate groups for users who are over or under 13 is simply problematic, discriminatory, and does not solve the issues at all.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 20:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
To VFDan, while asking for a users' birthday is sufficient for COPPA compliance, for access to confidential information, proof of legal identification is usually required, and lying about the age would immediately be found out.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 20:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
If the age would be 18, then let's just get rid of literally every single admin or EW! I have a hunch that almost every EW/Admin is under 18, leaving the very few 18+ admins to do all the work. Many adults have jobs to do, and that explains their activity.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  21:16, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
I agree that no one should need to see user emails.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
14:42, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Support (for merging groups). We don't need more groups, and most of the bureaucrats can view any content stored in a database. Also we don't have a way to confirm their age.
It's also important to see what is "confidential" - I am not sure if we ever used "suppress". We always used normal revision delete, and I am not sure if there is any information that should be hidden from admins. (note: EWs can't view deleted revisions) There are variety of things removed from a page - mostly email and social media/chat website links, and "hiding vandalism". Email or chat website links, IMO, aren't confidential enough to require suppression. Only certain PIIs like home addresses, phone numbers or social security numbers would need suppression, and I personally have never seen someone putting their home address on this wiki. Hiding vandalism is just to prevent name-and-shame by the viewers of the Wiki. If you think they should be oversighted, then we should fire admins that do bad things instead.
There could be some legal reasons to use oversighting but I honestly don't think that'll happen. As far as I know, there is no law that enforces us to remove links to social media.
While IP address could be considered confidential, again, I don't think there is a reason to have separate group.
Naleksuh mentioned that current system is like a hierarchy - and that is true. However, this is supposed to happen. Bureaucrats have more privileges than admins because they are responsible for maintaing all Scratch Wikis. They are like stewards in Wikimedia wikis. Administrators have basic privileges for managing one wiki, and EWs help admins, easier to obtain (than admins) but with less privileges.
I probably should also mention one more thing - currently, there is only one active bureaucrat. If we have groups for CheckUser and suppression, it is kinda obvious that there will be less CheckUsers than bureaucrats, especially with an age requirement. However, both CUs and suppressors are essential (if we actually use them, which we never did for suppressors) when fighting vandalism.
I understand that we are not Wikipedia - but given that the whole idea of suppressor and checkuser groups came from Wikimedia wikis, I think we shouldn't forget this fact: Stewards can use both CheckUser and Oversight. Stewards are people who assign groups, and help people cross-wiki. There is one existing group that basically does the same job, on Scratch Wikis, which is bureaucrat. Bureaucrats (with some exceptions, if any) have access to all Scratch Wikis, as bureaucrats, and can modify the database and the files at will, and have full control over Scratch Wikis.
This discussion could be bumped when we introduce actual per-wiki bureaucrats. However, we don't have them yet, so for now there is no use for separate user groups.
Also one note: who is minor and who isn't, totally depends on the country.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,225edit 08:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Apple, no one cares about age. Ken has been a bureaucrat since he was 14. Me, an EW since 14. All of us started being an EW as minors, and some bureaucrats and administrators. Suppression is hiding edit summaries. Email and chat are very confidential and should be removed. Not all bureaucrats are on all wikis.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,125)) 11:08, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
No, giving minors access to legally confidential information contains legal problems to no end. The "we don't have a way to confirm their age" further confirms a lack of understanding. As Banana said, the information here is not simply hiding vandalism or certain edit summaries and may not under any circumstances be made available to non-functionaries. Merge No Not done
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 18:05, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

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I'm not sure what you mean by "legally confidential information". There are some information that are definitely confidential - like social security number, but I've never seen them posted on the wiki. PIIs are probably included in that category, but I don't think it's a common problem. Emails and IP addresses may be considered as PII. Note that links to social media, common reason of per-revision deletion, are mostly banned for moderation reasons; There is little to no reason to use oversight for those.
Of those confidential information, which are legally confidential, and which cause legal problems when accessed by minors? I do not know details on German laws, but if I remember correctly, GDPR did not enforce such restrictions (or am i wrong?)
This is a technical fact that I am sure it's correct: "suppression" and "oversight" have the same meaning. Suppression includes suppressing revision, edit summary, log, etc.
To be honest, I don't think we are legally required to remove "confidential information" - without requests from them. Wiki contents are intended to be public, so submitting contents would mean agreeing to make them public. There may be some legal cases where this doesn't apply, but I'm sure we (most of the time) remove confidential information to reduce harm (to them) caused by making them public, and is not because of legal obligations.
We probably can restrict access to raw IP address because I don't think we ever used them - we just need to confirm that two accounts are owned by the same IP.
Also, remember that even Wikimedia has exemptions to age requirement!
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,225edit 09:50, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I don't really see a need for somebody knowing my email. There is absolutely no reason to know any PIIs besides the IP address.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  13:43, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
Email is not exposed to CUs/Suppressors, unless you write it on the wiki pages, which is probably your fault.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,225edit 00:52, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Minor Grammatical Issue in Footer

It says "Privacy policy" instead of Privacy Policy. Should not this be fixed?
R4356th (talk | contribs) 17:00, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

It's same though and I think that it should not be capitalized because of it's a general title (bundled with MediaWiki).
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
It's capitalized on Scratch though
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:04, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Should we copy everything on Scratch's footer to here? There are a lot of links there that aren't here....
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:05, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
This is not a "grammatical issue" or something that must be "fixed"-- capitalization like that is common, but Scratch Wiki has the idea of Capitalizing Everything Ever. For example, the default capitalization for Special:RecentChanges is Recent chamges, but was changed on Scratch Wiki to Recent changes. As for copying over the Scratch footer, a rewrite of ScratchWikiSkin into ScratchWikiSkin3 was proposed on Discord, but I do not know if that is happening. Currently, the skin uses various MediaWiki messages, usually introducing new ones, but sometimes using existing ones, which I would guess Privacy policy is one of those cases.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 20:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

November Featured Images

No Not done

I just updated the featured images with suggestions from the CP. Does anyone have any ideas for the next set of featured images (which will come at the end of October or the beginning of November)? If so, please post them here. Thanks! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 03:50, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

How about File:Report.PNG?
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  11:50, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
I suggest File:Change profile pic.png. :)
@garnetluvcookie That image doesn't exist, do you mean File:Report Screen.PNG?
TenType (talk | contribs) 22:23, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
yes, I do, I just have the worst short term memory ever :P
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  23:14, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
I suggest File:Scratch Team.jpg or File:Join Flow 7.png.
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 430 Contribs 12:45, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Is there an archive where all the previous images are listed ?
-unsigned comment by Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs) 10:57, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

A proposal for talk page formatting

No Not done
So when we edit on talk pages, we seem to just keep indenting over and over, without any logic. I was thinking we could instead indent to show who we are replying to, sort of like this example. It would more clearly show who each person is talking to and clear up confusion. New posts would still go below old posts, but instead under what you're replying to. I'm pretty bad at explaining so you can ask for any clarification. What are your thoughts?
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
01:28, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

An idea similar to (or the same as) this idea has been suggested before, back in 2017 (wow, time flies!). I just thought I'd point that out so you could read the discussion. Also, a system where you indent to show who you're replying to is already used in some discussions by several users (see #RfC about the usage of fixed with in ScratchWikiSkin2 for an example); but it isn't the most used system, I suppose. :)
Also, this is nitpicking at semantics, but I would disagree with your statement that our current most popular system is "without any logic"; the very fact that users following the convention must indent one : more than the previous post gives it logic. However, again, this is nitpicking. ;)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 01:57, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
It seems that no one ever actually came to a decision, so maybe I'll invite some people to this discussion?
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
14:10, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
Hmm... I agree that there is no logical order in which we indent currently, but the alternative proposal you're suggesting also will get very complicated for longer topics. You wouldn't know who you're replying to. (This is just in my head, I'm not sure if this will work or not, my imagination says it's not going to work but I can't be so sure :D )
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  17:40, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
We could still use things like "@kaj: Why did you hack my friend?" and stuff to prevent confusion.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
18:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
We could just do a template like Wikipedia's "talk page" template. Anyway, nobody cannot force someone for something, so the best thing is explanation.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
18:39, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
IMO this is more confusing than the current system; we should just keep indenting the way we do now. Using stuff like "@kaj: please don't hack me I didn't do anything wrong" is more clear IMO. And often you might not be replying to anyone in particular, so where do you put it then?
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  14:32, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
I'm not saying we completely ditch @ing people. As for not replying in particular, that would be indent level 0.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
15:36, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────This seems more confusing for me in long topics, even with using @mention in every message. For short topics, this wouldn't be too confusing, but overall, I disagree with this idea. These are just my thoughts though; maybe we could make this technique less complex for long topics?
TenType (talk | contribs) 22:18, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

LEGO BOOST Page

We have pages about the Raspberry PI system, the LEGO WeDo Construction Set system, but I'm noticing we don't have one about LEGO BOOST. I have a very less knowledge about this stuff (as always), so could somebody please take the effort to create a page containing all the information? Thanks.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 17:10, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Actually, we already have one at LEGO BOOST Extension, unless you mean something else. :)
Groko13 Logo.png Groko13 / talk / contribs 20:49, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
No — do you notice the red link labelled "LEGO BOOST"? Unless I'm misinterpreting it, there should be page related to what that is and how it's related to the extension. For example, the Raspberry Pi has a page about it's Scratch extension but also about it's hardware and how it's relevant to Scratch.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 12:27, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Capitalization issue with 3.0 blocks

Hey folks, I've been working on a project to fix and improve the LEGO BOOST extension for a while now and it's complete, but while I was doing it I noticed an issue with the 3.0 blocks on the Wiki: all of the lowercase "i"s kept turning into a capital "i" and in the code it was still lowercase. I don't know if this is a known issue, but it could be misleading.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 12:25, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Missing Discussions

Hello, everyone! After creating the 109th Community Portal archive, I moved quite a few discussions to Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done. One upside of this is to prevent premature archiving of the CP. If you're wondering where a discussion went, it was probably either archived or moved to Not Done. Please also consider contributing to some of the discussions in Not Done! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Reminder

I’d like to remind y’all (no, I’m not from Kentucky or near there) that you shouldn’t assume others gender, even from their mediawiki preferences. For example, I have my gender set as “female” in my settings, though I don’t use female pronouns. It’s always best to ask someone for their pronouns, or just use the neutral pronoun “they”.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  03:36, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I definitely agree that you shouldn't assume others' pronouns; however, I'm not sure how referring to someone based on their MediaWiki preferences is doing that. The MediaWiki preferences actually don't use the words "male," "female," etc.; they explicitly ask about your pronouns. So, if someone has that preference set as "she," for instance, then I don't think that referring to them as "she" is "assuming their gender." Of course, if someone prefers to be called something other than what is listed on that page, then users should use what they prefer instead, but then they probably wouldn't change the preference from the default (as you called it, "neutral") option ("they"). Could you please clarify why you think that referring to someone based on the pronouns they have said they prefer to be described as is "assuming their gender"? Thank you. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 03:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I’m pretty sure that that changed during the update, and plus the mw magic word is gender, so misconceptions can be made. Also, I’d like to also not that someone’s gender identity doesn’t always have to line up with their pronouns (for example, I identify as a cis female and present myself irl as feminine, but I prefer gender neutral pronouns on the internet because my internet “persona” is way more different than I act in real life.)
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  04:06, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I’d also like to note as a “straight” and “cis” ally, though this isn’t used anymore, he/she or she/he is not an OK substitute for the perfectly fine gender neutral pronoun “they”.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  04:11, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
  • "I’m pretty sure that that changed during the update, ..."
    • Are you 100% sure about that? We shouldn't assume whether it did or not. Anyhow, we can get confirmation on this.
  • "... and plus the mw magic word is gender, so misconceptions can be made."
    • Misconceptions can be made about anything. You just need to clear them up so they don't get made again. The purpose of that preference is so that the software knows how to correctly refer to you, so saying that you shouldn't use it as a guide to know how to refer to users goes against the point of it.
  • "Also, I’d like to also not that someone’s gender identity doesn’t always have to line up with their pronouns (for example, I identify as a cis female and present myself irl as feminine, but I prefer gender neutral pronouns on the internet because my internet “persona” is way more different than I act in real life.)"
    • This is irrelevant here. As I said, the purpose of that preference is so that the software knows how to correctly refer to you, and hence it explicitly asks about your pronouns. If someone represents that preference as anything else, they are misrepresenting the preference.
  • "I’d also like to note as a 'straight' and 'cis' ally, though this isn’t used anymore, he/she or she/he is not an OK substitute for the perfectly fine gender neutral pronoun 'they'."
    • I agree, but that's a different issue; why are you bringing it up here?
My points are not meant to sound harsh (I'm sorry if they do), but I'm just trying to make sure that the purpose of that preference is being addressed. Again, I agree that you shouldn't assume others' pronouns, but I disagree that using this preference to refer to someone is doing so. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 04:22, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I get your points, but as someone who has many queer friends who feel strongly about this and so do I, (pardon me if I sound odd or rude, I’m a bit sleepy) and I just wanted to bring it up as a friendly reminder because it’s never OK to assume one’s gender, and in modern times we need to learn that. My opinions may be a bit biased, but you get the point.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  04:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Now you're changing the topic of what we're discussing. We're not discussing whether it's okay to assume users' genders (or assume users' pronouns); I think we both agree that it's never okay to do that. What we're discussing is whether using someone's pronoun preferences to refer to them is assuming their pronouns; and I don't think that referring to someone as "he" (for example) if they have selected that they prefer to be referred to as "he" is doing that. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 04:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I get it now. Since it’s almost 1 AM where I am and I literally don’t have the mental energy to go in depth about anything, I’m going to call this done. if you have other concerns, feel free to contact me on my talk page sine I’ll still have this on until I fall asleep involuntarily. (Wikipedia editor moment)
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  04:51, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Alright, let's make it official: Yes Done. Have a good rest of your night. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 04:55, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

"Becoming a Scratcher" section

I'm going to make a section on either Scratcher or New Scratcher about how you become a Scratcher (with images for each slide of the process). Which article should I do it on?
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
11:29, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I would say on Scratcher but make a section in New Scratcher summarizing the how-to.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
So something like this?
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
15:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Yes, like that...
You don't have to link a difference externally, you can just do Special:Diff/273783...
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:23, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

What should I do if...

Yes Done

What should I do if someone posts a message on my talk page just in the middle of nowhere with no subject or anything, just a message? (It still has a sig)
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 20:11, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

You can create a title for it and you can say "Message from ...".
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:16, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Ok, thanks!
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 20:22, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
I would say that you could just read the text, and make a subject based on that. The header is used for others to know what the basis of the conversation would be about.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  20:37, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
@12944qwerty: if it's not included a clear subject, my suggestion may be the preferred; I think.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:47, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Agreed I guess. A message, if not clear, could just say "Message from ..." but I doubt that would happen often...
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:30, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Making search boxes

Yes Done
Is there a way to make search boxes in the Scratch Wiki, like the one on top of the CP, except with the "Try exact match" button and the line break before the buttons?
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 430 Contribs 21:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

The Try Exact Match button is part of the input box. After playing around with the <inputbox> tag, I found that the type of type=search2 will give the Exact match button. type=search gives both buttons.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:42, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Alright, thanks.
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 430 Contribs 14:22, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Boi wut

Yes Done
[1]
There's a glitch that allows Scratchers to see dustbin topics, using 'Report Post'. Would it be notable enough if others can do it to include in the Dustbin forum topic article? Try it yourself with this link.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
11:28, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

But you don't see the topic.....
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:31, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
True, though you can see the title.
GrahamSH (talk | contribs) 13:47, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Does the title really matter though? I would think that the discussion would be more important.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  14:19, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
I don't know, it probably wouldn't be any good. I kinda just wanted to show everyone because I thought it was interesting, without people saying it's off-topic...
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
14:42, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
I clicked the link again and now it says 'Spam Dustbin'. I do not see any mentions of 'Spam Dustbin', I only see 'Dustbin'. Does anyone have more information on this?
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
17:02, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Error while viewing GIF

Every time I try to load a thumbnail of the file File:Rickroll.gif, it displays this error:
"Error creating thumbnail: convert: memory allocation failed `/tmp/transform_177876bbf04e.gif' @ error/quantize.c/QuantizeImage/2653. convert: memory allocation failed `/tmp/transform_177876bbf04e.gif' @ error/gif.c/WriteGIFImage/1693. Error code: 1"
Can someone help me? Thanks.
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 430 Contribs 17:32, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm getting this error for only the thumbnails. The main gif at the top of the screen works perfectly fine for me
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  16:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Yewh, when I uploaded the image the wiki was running slow; also it's a big file so that's most likely a big part of the cause.
You just got RickRolled
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
01:57, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Is this a bug or what

In the www version (this link), it appears that you are signed out, but remove the www, you're signed in? Is this a bug, glitch, or something I missed because I'm now on the main site?
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  19:54, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

@garnetluvcookie: It's probably proposed as a redirect to the main subdomain (en.scratch-wiki.info) but however; since MediaWiki handles for only a subdomain, it's kinda unnecessary right now. The all links from www subdomain will be redirected to the main subdomain. It's not a bug nor a glitch neither a missed thing. You can also see the same thing on www.scratch.mit.edu . The fact is www subdomains are unused in most of the websites in the Internet, but the website bureaucrats redirects them to main domain/subdomain for preventing confusion.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:07, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
That's because the cookies are only saved for the domain for which they are issued, and www.en.scratch-wiki.info and en.scratch-wiki.info are different domains. We would strongly encourage just using en.scratch-wiki.info (without the www) to avoid such issues.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:18, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Subject glitch

If you can see from this image, if you hover over the "Subject" line when making a new section, a tooltip will appear about summaries, not subjects.
Can someone fix this? Thanks :)
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 430 Contribs 21:51, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

There is no problem here, the subject box is for writing a "summary" of your post.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
01:54, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

New ScratchSig is deployed!

A few weeks ago, Naleksuh suggested we should develop a new ScratchSig since the old one was woefully out of date and generally a kind of hacky extension (some of you may recall the XSS vulnerability discovered a while ago). Naleksuh and I have developed a newer version of the extension that is now deployed here. The only obvious difference should be that the image does not have a border on it anymore and that userpages/talk pages that do not exist appear as redlinks since those are now rendered as wikitext instead of raw HTML. This also does finally properly handle usernames with underscores, and you can enter the username either with spaces or underscores, depending on which you prefer, and the icon will display properly. Also, for users that do not exist, the icon simply will not display.

Examples representing the situations I mentioned above:


jvvg test (talk | contribs)

jvvg_test (talk | contribs)

this user cannot exist %% (talk | contribs)

Additionally, there have been some behind the scenes changes. We took a much more defensive approach to the design of the extension to avoid any future XSS attacks or similar. We also added a much better caching system using the MediaWiki object cache. For comparison, the older version was still using a kind of janky caching system added over two years ago that was intended to be temporary.

Please post a reply here if you notice any issues. And of course I need to actually sign my post even though this is a post about scratchsig.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:38, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Slight fix to jobs

I have fixed an issue with jobs. After the upgrade, we were not able to run jobs in the background, so we had to attach them to requests at random (i.e. each page load had some chance of having a job processed as part of handling the request). This caused somewhat of a slowdown and also meant that jobs didn't always run as quickly as would have been ideal. Now, jobs are run by a cron job that runs separately from any request. This should result in a slight performance improvement.

That's all. Other than that, nothing should change.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:35, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Haven't jobs been broken for a long time lol?
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  01:16, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
One specific job was broken for a long time, and that was fixed with the upgrade. Other jobs were working as expected. However, the ability to run jobs at all was broken by the upgrade (or at least the ability to run them via a cron job, so we had to attach them to requests again). However, this has all been fixed.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Table of contents

Hey everyone. I've seen on some pages that they have a table of contents. How do I get that to appear? Sorry for the short section.
8bitjake (talk | contribs) 15:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)8bitjake

They will automatically generate if the page has enough content.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
15:17, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Give the right of deletion of messages on their own talk pages to users

For example, here is a good example of it in Wikipedia: here. I think that the system also may work fine on Scratch Wiki. Although this rules are against to deletion of talk pages, this might be good for users whose do not want to archive (though it's accessible from history).
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
12:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

I don't really think this is a good idea. For one, I wouldn't want to write up a message and then have a user just delete it because they feel like it. Also, the messages should be kept for reference purposes in the future. So I don't really like this idea.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
12:52, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
But the messages are always accessible through history, because we're not allowing to the deletion of page.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
12:57, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
But it's far easier to go to a subpage than to dig through page history.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
15:07, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
No, you can just filter from date and user contribs. That shouldn't be hard.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
15:11, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
"shouldn't be hard" on a small talk page sure, but not on large ones. I hated on wikipedia where I made a post on a talk page and someone else (not even the owner of the talk page!) removed saying it was incorrect. I added it back and then the actual owner of the talk page removed it. It was very blantant plagiarism (word for word copied). Stuff like this shouldn't happen. No support.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:51, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
When someone removes a message from their talk page, you may take that as an indication that they have read the message. Talk page owners should be allowed to remove messages from them. If your objection is simply to the message being removed and nothing else, that is not something that is problematic when either the message violates policy or it is being removed by the owner of the talk page. If the objection is that removing the message is an attempt at avoiding scruntiny, you are free to take any actions that you would otherwise if the message was not removed, such as reverting or raising complaints at /Admin Requests. Therefore, there is no reason to prevent removal of messages from the owner's talk page. While waiting until time has passed then archiving them may be preferred and is done on public venues such as this page, there is no need to require that.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 20:07, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Re-RFC for S:NOSP

I think that we must edit restrictions about mods and user generated content. For example: we shouldn't create an another namespace for user-generated content, the users are already creating them on their subpages. And it must be possible to delete old and not notable mod pages.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
07:44, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I think that the date the page is created is irrelevant. Either the subject is notable, or it is not.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 02:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Updating all the blocks categorys footer to 3.0 mode

Hey folks ! This was the current pen extension footer :

What the 3.0 version will be :

Please vote Yes Yes if you want this to be changed or No No if you don't want below ! I will take decision the 1st of november.
Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs)19:05, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

I am not voting, but I think EW+ (users that are Experienced Wikians or above) should have the final decision of this. Although, if your second design is chosen, the other block categories might need to be updated to reflect that design
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:48, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Yes, i know about that... the pen footer was just a preview exemple :)
-unsigned comment by Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs) 08:21, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
" EW+ (users that are Experienced Wikians or above) should have the final decision of this" No, wikis resolve around consensus and it is not the role of Experienced Wikians to ignore that. Unless this was in reference to the "I will take decision the 1st of november." comment by OP, in which case I agree OP should not close the discussion as they are involved as the proposer.
As for the content change in question, I think the old version is better both as there is no need to embed a block there and the "This block was a Pen Extension Block" sentence makes no sense in this context as it is the title for the navbox, not a part of the page body.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 02:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Basically what Naleksuh said, I vote no; it's way overbloated and takes away from the article. No support
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
No No support for the reasons Naleksuh and VFDan stated. I also think the current footer works fine, and if anything should be updated there, it would just be changing the color to match the 3.0 blocks.
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 20:51, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Why is there Language Tutorials?

No Not done

So, there's this, which has other programming language tutorials. This is kind of weird, especially in the Scratch Wiki. I know the "comparing other programming languages with Scratch" thing, but they could just link to other programming language websites. Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 00:27, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

The Language Tutorials here also compare the code to Scratch code, making it a better starting point for people trying to transition.
And I spent a solid amount of time on the C++ tutorials...
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
14:41, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Edit: added not done. Also, add more tutorials? Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 00:27, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

The language tutorials was a project that we started a long time ago in order to increase the diversity of topics and more solidly provide people with suggestions for post-Scratch programming experiences.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 02:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Some interesting stats on the language program. Since its conception in August 2018 we've pulled in approx. 2600 organic viewers for the page. When you look at the graph there are a few days when editors are working on it which increases total count (blue) vs. organic count (orange). Overall I think the program has a lot of potential to pull in a stable organic user page as it continues to expand.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 02:53, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! October 29th, 2020

Welcome to the 33rd Thankful Thursday! October 29th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for all that you do on the Wiki! Also, thanks for always answering my questions when I ask them! You're an amazing administrator on the Wiki :D Keep up the great work!
    Illusion705's User Logo1.png   Illusion705 talk | contribs  00:20, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for being so full of empathy and care for others! You're always so kind, and you make such big contributions to both Scratch and the Scratch Wiki all the time. It's truly a miracle how kind you can be sometimes, and thank you for being such an amazing member of the Wiki!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your countless helpful edits to the Wiki!
    Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,764)  Scratch  Directory 
    11:16, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for helping to shape the wiki to where it is now!
    Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  00:38, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for being here for so long and helping us out so much! Unfortunately, I had to remove TenType's version of your canned summaries code since I never really used it much and it was starting to get annoying, but still, thank you for making such a helpful additional feature!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Naleksuh (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for being a helpful contributor!
    Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  00:38, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you so much for fixing my mistakes and also generally helping out so much on the Wiki! You're so consistent when editing and are so dedicated to it, it's honestly amazing.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs)
jvvg (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for helping us for so long!
    Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  00:38, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • WOW, man, you've helped us for so many years and are still going! You can still be so helpful and knowledgeable after all this time, and it's honestly amazing.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for all of your helpful actions in the Wiki.
    Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
    15:02, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for helping to update the Scratch Wiki and providing updates for the progress of the update!
    4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 430 Contribs 19:47, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for making so many edits and being such an amazing Experienced Wikian (my dear question friend)! You've always helped me so much, even in recent times, and I think Thankful Thursday will always be incomplete without you in the list. Also, I removed your version of Kenny's canned summaries code since it was starting to get rather annoying and it I never really used it, but still, thank you for putting the effort into improving such an helpful feature! *cough cough* anyway, this doesn't mean i'm not going to bombard you with more questions-
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Jammum (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for making so many contributions and always being on Recent Changes! You're in my top list of most consistent contributors, and it's really unbelievable how dedicated some can be!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs)
  • Ahh, you're starting to become such a big part of the community and you're always contributing so much on the CP! Continuing your forum helping journey, here, right? I expected it!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:19, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Apple502j (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for being helpful so much in the background of Scratch Wiki systems!
    Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
    15:02, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for helping out so much with the Scratch and Scratch Wiki development — you definitely need a pretty high knowledge of programming and effort to do something like that. You're also generally very helpful on the CP and on the Scratch forums.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:43, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Turkey3 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for creating this page, it was very helpful and I definitely learnt a lot about clones and sprites while editing it. I never knew private variables were so powerful, and I feel so satisfied about learning it.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:43, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


The next TT is, November 26th, see you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

No Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Prevent categories from being added to userspace via AbuseFilter

It is possible for categories to be added to userspace pages, which are not supposed to have categories.

I think categories being added to userspace pages is quite common, and could be prevented by AbuseFilter.

The only exception should be Category:Pages in Need of Deletion.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Unused User Images Mass Deletion

Yes Done

Within the coming days, unused Users' Images and Users' Logos will be tagged for deletion. After marking the images with {{Unused user image}}, they will be deleted around two weeks later. If you do not want your user image deleted, simply delete the template on the image you want to keep. I will update you all about my progress here. If you do not want any images to be deleted, please post a comment below! Thank you.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa talk | contribs | edits 03:59, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Unused images have been marked for deletion. Please review Category:Unused Users' Images for the list of images. Please note the deletion date has been changed from two weeks later to one week later, meaning they will be deleted on or after November 8, 2020. Please delete the template on the image if you want to keep the image. Thank you!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa talk | contribs | edits 18:20, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Completed.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa talk | contribs | edits 03:29, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Talk pages redirect


-unsigned comment by Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs) 18:01, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Why do they need to be deleted?
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 19:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
They are unneeded
-unsigned comment by Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs) 19:45, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
How?
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 20:54, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
As of right now, the bureaucrats and admins have said that it's not sure whether they should be deleted yet. The {{delete}} templates have been removed. Please reach a consensus first before adding mass deletion templates. However, thank you for wanting to contribute! :)
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:50, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Scratchblocks images

Hi, the Scratch Wiki is currently filled with 2.0 blocks screenshots.I think these pictures should be deleted because :

  1. They are outdated
  2. These pictures can be replaced with blocks
  3. They are pixelized

A bunch of pictures can be found here

Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs)19:14, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

From what I've known, current scratchblocks images are kept for historical reasons, but new scratchblocks images uploaded recently should be deleted.
TenType (talk | contribs) 20:20, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Downtime?

Yes Done
At around 8:40 AM ET, the Scratch Wiki was down, only showing a 503. Was anyone else getting this issue, and why did the servers crash?
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 430 Contribs 13:47, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

This happens occasionally, unfortunately. This is an issue with our current server that happens when they are receiving more traffic than they can handle. We have taken measures to reduce how often this happens but haven't been able to completely eliminate it. As a longer-term solution, we are currently in the process of planning a server transfer, though that is probably still a ways off.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I'll mark this Yes Done now.
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 430 Contribs 15:24, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Should there be a template to mark custom signatures which do not follow signature guidelines?

Question is in the title. Although, templates only used on userspace pages might not be allowed and adding that template might violate userspace rules. Such template also needs to be hidden when the signature is transcluded or forces a user to use the default ScratchSig (unless that would also break userspace rules).
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:44, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Please don't edit others' userpages (including templates and signatures), even if they don't meet formatting guidelines (if it violates SCGs, then it's ok to remove it). First, ask the user on their talk page, and if that doesn't get results within a few days, contact an EW+.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:05, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
I now presume such template would be rejected per jvvg's comment, so I will consider this Yes Done.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:37, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

My username starts with a lowercase letter

No Not done
On the Scratch website you will notice my username (brooc210) starts with a lowercase letter but on the Scratch Wiki it starts with a uppercase letter. So is it ok to use {{DISPLAYTITLE:User:brooc210}} on my userpage? I also found out that if you template it, it ignores it because itʼs not part of the page (I found this out by templating the page Snap! (programming language) on the sandbox without saving but using the preview).
brooc210 (talk | contribs) This is a signature!

You can rename your userpage and your talk to the lowercase username
-unsigned comment by Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs) 13:42, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
@Scratcheur-2020Send: That is not possible, see what I wrote below.
Due to MediaWiki restrictions, usernames must start with an uppercase letter. Displaytitle is the closest anyone can get to having a lowercase username.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:07, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
So do you think I should?
brooc210 (talk | contribs) This is a signature! 14:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes, you can use displaytitle for that. We actually have a dedicated template specifically for this purpose. Unfortunately due to the way MediaWiki works, everything needs to start with a capital letter, including usernames. As "jvvg", I can commiserate with you.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:51, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

"Watchlist" Details

Yes Done
So, I know that the watchlist allows for you to keep track of edits made to certain Wiki pages, but I also noticed that there is a button labeled "Live Updates" that shows up when you go here. Does anyone know what that does?
84375 (talk | contribs) 02:53, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Oops, never mind, I just figured it out. Marking as Yes Done.
84375 (talk | contribs) 03:33, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Talk page (for pages not users) archives?

No Not done Title.
Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 00:25, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

What specifically are you asking? Are you talking about if this exists or you are suggesting it?
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 430 Contribs 19:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

How do I bring attention to a specific talk page to discuss an article?

Yes Done

And while I'm asking, is it proper etiquette to bring attention to one of them, or do you have to wait for someone to come across it naturally?
EZ-Games (talk | contribs) 17:06, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I recommend using the discussion invitation system as you can just send a message to people on the list on their talk page (Just remember to respect their limits) Most of the time they will respond to the message and check out the talk page you linked.
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 19:05, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Ah yes, this is what I was looking for. Thank you! I'll be marking this as Yes Done now.
EZ-Games (talk | contribs) 02:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

When someone edits your talk page, it says you have a new message from another user.

Well, sorry for another topic, but this is a bug so i'll bring it up. Title says it all.
Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 00:15, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

That is intentional, so users know when they recieved a message and so the user who recieves the message can deal with the message quicker.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes, but if someone edits their message... -snip-
Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 20:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
It's kinda hard to make an exception for notifying people for editing their message.
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 21:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Hmm.. We should send the user a message only if they add something to the talk page! Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 14:50, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
It's extremely difficult to automatically determine if an edit to your talk page was a new message or a modification to an existing one (this was an issue I came across writing WikiMonitor when detecting unsigned posts, and in the end my algorithm is still not 100% perfect). Therefore, MediaWiki (the platform this Wiki runs on) will notify you whenever your talk page is modified, since it is considered important that you know whenever someone modifies it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:14, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Does MediaWiki send a notification whenever another user m minor edits a user talk page? If yes, then is there a way to make it so that it doesn't?
TenType (talk | contribs) 17:16, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Please answer that, jvvg! :) Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 15:22, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Suggestions for highlighting active notifications in Echo

A few times, it has been suggested we add the Echo extension, which, in a nutshell, would allow users to be notified when mentioned on talk pages (and provide various other kinds of notifications as well. There has never been any major objection, but in the current version of MediaWiki and the extension, the styling causes significant issues with our current skin. I have been able to overcome those challenges, resulting in this:

Echo integrated with SWS user menu.png

However, one major thing remains. That is how do we emphasize individual menu items that have active notifications (for example, the "notices" link in this screenshot)? The only idea I was able to come up with myself is a badge similar to what displays next to the user menu at the top of that screenshot, but don't think that's a great idea since with the icons, those links already are pretty wide. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:25, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Undeletion of GameBender

Should be procedurally undeleted as the reason provided for deletion is flatly not true-- users:ericr is involved in development and last time I checked they are a Scratch Team member. To the deleting sysop I will say that this is why discussion is important and not simply running around deleting whatever.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 02:51, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

The deletion reason says:
unless a reliable source that says a *current* ST member is involved is included, this is akin to a Scratch Mod which we now disallow by policy. Additionally there isn't enough content to warrant a full article, especially since it's not released yet.
Please, at least read the reason of the deletion, and give the link to the reliable source.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,225edit 08:38, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Apple502j, this page is labelled "Admin Requests" and involves the undeletion of a page. You are not an admin, nor may you undelete pages. The request to "at least read the reason of the deletion" when I already quoted and addressed it above does not help either.
I am not able to reference the content of the page, obviously as it has been deleted, however if my memory serves the page was well-sourced and clearly indicated the involvement. Even if it is not, sources being found are a part of the deletion discussion process, which again does not appear to have taken place at all. As such, the page should be restored and, at most, tagged with {{NotUseful}} (although the page would likely be kept due to the concerns in the nom statement being falsified instantly).
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 06:46, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
(note: this section is moved to CP, per the CPSYS guidelines)
Even though I'm not able to undelete, I can delete the page - in fact, the deletion is suggested by me on the talk page first, and we didn't have any response for more than two weeks. Also, the discussion is now moved to the Community Portal (see the CPSYS rules), so nothing is preventing me from posting this, both as an EW and as a user.
Saying "I read the reason" implies that you will also act accordingly; the reason specifically asked reliable sources, and you didn't provide any, at least in your posts. The deletion is (mostly) because Ken did not think that the citations given are either not enough, or incredible; so you have to explain how the page was "well-sourced". (If you need the deleted page's source, I can ask admins to post it somewhere.)
Finally: I'm sure we do not restore pages if they need NotUseful template.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,225edit 10:43, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Deleted article (for reference) User:Naleksuh/GameBender
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,225edit 10:57, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I deleted the article for a few reasons.

First off, nothing in it mentioned ericr's involvement, nor are there any sources that directly mention such. The GameBender website lists him as a "collaborator" which is not enough involvement for the purposes of NOSP - had he been listed as part of "Team GameBender" I would have maybe considered this a valid invocation of the rule, but a single name mention could have been one line of code.

Even if he had been part of the team, it's still not allowed. Notability requirements expressly forbid Scratch Mods, and as far as I can see, and as far as the article describes, this is very much a Scratch Mod - it modifies Scratch to add bells and whistles. The ST-member exception is very clear that the article must meet normal notability requirements - this does not meet them.

A couple final notes:

  • CPSYS explicitly states that it's "for actions requiring admin/EW attention that need no discussion". Apple is an EW, and it turned out that it needed discussion. Ergo, the topic was moved here.
  • The sum total of the sources was the GB website, on which I had to scroll all the way down to find the "Team" link in the footer, then scroll all the way past the "Team GameBender" section to find Eric Rosenbaum in the list of "Collaborators"; and three Vimeo links which had no people in them, just demonstrations of GB itself. There was no clear indication of his involvement.
  • Please don't say "you are not an admin" in an effort to shut someone up. Anyone that is technically able to reply has a say, even if they can't actually execute some of the actions required.

I appreciate your effort to bring content to the Wiki, but please consider the notability and suitability of the future articles you create. The article stays deleted.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Apple502j, my purpose in suggesting the addition of the NotUseful template was that no discussion surrounding deletion had taken place at all. It does not make sense for pages to be deleted without discussion but then require discussion for them to be undeleted. The purpose of restoring the page with the NotUseful template would be to fostor discussion (it would also require the nominator to actually show problems instead of simply deleting in violation of policy). In addition, I was by no means suggesting that the article qualified for the NotUseful template-- I specifically indicated that it would likely be kept as well.
Kenny2scratch, it should be abundantly clear that the page in question was not a "Scratch modification" in the slightest (Scratch modifications are software, the page in question was about a piece of hardware). It does not seem to fit into any of the categories and is generally thought to be allowed as a semi-official product (around as notable as, say, LEGO WeDo). Regardless, claims such as "the article stays deleted" are generally made by uninvolved administrators, and you are by no means uninvolved.
It should (hopefully) be clear to any uninvolved administrator that the page did not meet the criteria for speedy deletion in any way, and even if the normal deletion venue was used, the nominator made no attempt to S:BEFORE, as well as the fact that the page in question is not about a third-party Scratch modification but a piece of hardware officially affiliated with Scratch which is well-documented in other venues.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 20:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
I suggested the deletion on the talk page in October; nobody (including Naleksuh yourself) responded it, though, so it was safe to assume that nobody was against that idea. Additionally, English Scratch Wiki rules, AFAIK, do not require discussion before (un)deleting something. Admins can undelete without discussion; but that does not mean admins have to undelete wihout discussion. They can decide.
GameBender is both a hardware and a software (because you can't just play Scratch with a CPU and RAM). LEGO WeDo (and other stuff like micro:bit) are used in the official Scratch extensions and available at scratch.mit.edu, while anyone can claim to be one of the Scratch Team members and put their names on their website. One example of this was "Dexter Industries GoPiGo For Raspberry Pi", which was deleted because it was not notable.
Any administrators can take action.
And finally: S:NOTWP. We do not have speedy delete and normal delete, and S:BEFORE is deadlink. (jawiki is the only wiki, AFAIK, that has both). A question: is there any website that mentions ST members are involved "as ST member" (i.e. not as a hobby). on scratch.mit.edu or other websites that are not GameBender official website?
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,225edit 03:34, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
I will say that "We do not have speedy delete and normal delete" is not true, that is exactly what we have ("speedy delete" being Template:Delete and "normal delete" being [[Template:NotUseful). However, I concede with the fact that the page in question actually was nominated for deletion. I was not aware of this until it was actually deleted. This may be an issue with the deletion process that can be resolved elsewhere.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 04:00, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Promoting apple502j

Hi everyone,

I'm suggesting promoting apple502j to adminship.

apple502j (talk | contribs) has been an excellent and active user both in jawiki and enwiki, and I'm sure that anyone in the wiki can agree that by looking contributions both in wikis and code contributions on the wiki extensions. However, sometimes it seems he has lack on accessing to tools - protection, undeletion, and on handling stuffs around the wiki. (we've recently see that on restoring deleted pages)

With in this mind, I'm suggesting that promoting apple502j to adminship with the agreement of admins and wiki community. You can vote it by Yes Yes and No No for whether you're supporting or not supporting promotion of apple502j to adminship.

I will start: I vote Yes Yes.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
11:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

I disagree. Apple is not experienced enough on enwiki (for comparison, Bigpuppy was promoted 30 months after he became EW; Apple has been EW for 14 months), and he already has full access to jawiki which I think keeps his hands full - adding enwiki adminship would only add to his burden. Unless other admins think otherwise, I consider this No Rejected.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes Support! even though it's not election time
Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 15:35, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
No Strong oppose While I assume this request was filed due to my recent comment that Apple502j is not an admin, this was mentioned both in attempt against "non-admin closures", but more importantly the comment was erroneous. As for whether or not Apple502j should become an admin, this comment is enough to warrant a strong oppose on its own. Naleksuh mentioned that current system is like a hierarchy - and that is true. However, this is supposed to happen. is the complete opposite spirit that would be expected from anyone who wants to request adminship. This has happened on several other occasions as well such as Special:Diff/263805 where the candidate proclaimed that a "rule is now clear" because one sysop wrote a comment proclaiming something. While this is the strongest point from anyone who wants to request adminship, even if all of that was to be ignored, it is questionable whether they are even here to contribute to the enecylopedia at all. Out of the candidate's 50 most recent edits, only two of them were to mainspace. Yes, two. Overall, I see no evidence of directing improvement towards the wiki and much more towards trying to act authoritatively, which is the polar opposite of anyone who should be trying to request adminship.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 20:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
I am explicitly neutral on the specific idea of promoting apple502j. That being said, (specifically to Naleksuh), the hostile tone of your recent messages, including this one, is not acceptable.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:28, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Kinda busy right now, please reject this.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,225edit 07:50, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Prevent links to Scratch profiles in mainspace

Linking to Scratch profiles in mainspace is against Wiki Guidelines, and I think it is a bit common. If this is accepted, AbuseFilter could be used. Both non-interwiki and Interwiki links to profiles should be detected.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:58, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

What's AbuseFilter?
Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 23:01, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
AbuseFilter is an extension we use to automatically enforce various policies. Currently, it's used for filtering inappropriate language, preventing New Wikians from editing others' userpages without permission, blocking uploading large files (images above a certain size can cause problems on the server), blocking uploading files without a category, and preventing moves/deletions without a summary (see Special:AbuseFilter for more). As for the original suggestion, is this a common problem that comes up? I wouldn't be willing to add this unless it is, and it is also possible that there might be a legitimate reason (just thinking out loud here, linking to a ST member's profile as an example profile page) and then that would add technical and administrative overhead.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:26, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Oh. User:Lovecodeabc/Signature 15:15, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Featured Studios/Currently Featured‎

There should be a program that checks a few times a day if a studio has been featured, and if so, updates Featured Studios/Currently Featured so it will always match what is on the Scratch front page.
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 19:36, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

What would happen if...

What would happen if I edited this page? You're supposed to upload a file, but I'm curious what would happen if you edited a new file page without uploading a file.
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 430 Contribs 16:44, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

My signature

Hi, I have question. My signature's timestamp is not formatting correctly. (image) Does anyone know why this may be? You can view the code for my sig at User:Leahcimto/Signature. Thanks!
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile

I tested removing the <br/>, that may work. I didn't save any changes since editing userspace is against the rules, though, so you'll have to do it yourself.
78ch3ProfilePic.png78ch3: My Talk | Contribs | Main 09:46, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
When I remove it, my signature goes on the same line as my text :/
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 13:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Does anyone else know how I can fix it?
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 16:19, 25 November 2020 (UTC)