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Lack of curiosity at Scratch Wiki?

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I was a little bit astonished seeing no reaction to

and

Both GP (Programming Language) (de:GP (Programmiersprache)) and BeetleBlocks (de:Beetle Blocks] are great new scratch-based awaysome Programming Environments, created by the scratch-wide known inventors Eric Rosenbaum (MaKey MaKey) and John Maloney (main developer of Scratch for 10 years) & Jens Mönig (creator of BYOB & Snap!). Both innovations were presented at de:Scratch2015AMS. Because we are not as fluid in the English language we wrote German articles at the DACH-Scratch-Wiki about it. Furthermore there are more very interesting articles in the DACH Scratch Wiki that have no corresponding article in the English Scratch Wiki and additional there are innovations like TurtleStich and Tickle that have no article in any Scratch Wiki. (see Conference Program (english!!!)) and Conference Videos (English!!!) of de:Scratch2015AMS.

I thought it would be enough to shortly mention that. I thought many curious English scratch-wiki-authors would have a look the German articles, see that there is much English information linked to it, like Videos and other Webpages, have a look at the picture and google-translate the German text to get an impression and then start to create English articles about it here.

I also think that the innovations presented at the Scratch-Conferences and the Conferences them self are much underrepresented here at the English Scratch Wiki. I saw threads at this CP about "I wish I was at the wiki some years before when there where much more new articles left to be created" or threads about creating more icons for talk pages of the Wiki or other wiki-community-related things...I wonder how that fits to that utterly lack of curiosity about awesome innovations happening in the "World of Scratch" (excuse me for that provocative style...I hope that helps to get more reaction, so it's meant really positive  ;-)

...Perhaps now I gave enough information to wake up the curiosity of some people? I am really looking forward what will happen :)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:30, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

I will work on an article about beetle blocks now. :)
JayceeMinecraftlogo.png JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions
Great start for article BeetleBlocks! :-) I added the Interwiki-Link. You could get pictures from the German article.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 01:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
What's about The Scratch Song, GP (Programming Language), TurtleStich, Tickle and other innovations mentioned at de:Scratch2015AMS? Who want's to write English articles about it? Also BeetleBlocks seems to be not fished...
see:.

Not Done!!

No Not done because there are still many articles to write suggested above
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:51, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Hey there! I'll start working on TurtleStitch and once I'm done with that, I'll probably do another one. Thanks! Here is the TurtleStich one: http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/TurtleStich#About_TurtleStich
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 13:31, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Great, Thanks!
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 21:14, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
I got started on Tickle. It's quite short as I found it difficult to find information. If anyone could help, that would be great!
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 11:34, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
@Hamish752: Thanks for making a start with Tickle :-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:53, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

List of potential articles and sources

(Please feel free to at potential articles and sources, but discuss in the above section, to keep that here a "working list"
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:07, 22 January 2016 (UTC))

Not Done!!

No Not done because until now there is nobody who has the knowledge and takes the responsibility for that Blocks Plugin Tasks at the Scratch Wikis. The only persons I know who, could have the knowledge are user:blob8108 and user:JSO but as I understand it, they would not like to take the responsibility, so we must find somebody else who will build up the knowledge (must know something about Javascript and Wiki-Administration). Who?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:58, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I found out how to edit the Blocks Plugin so it works for a specific language. It's in fact very easy. I tested it with the dutch wiki and it worked. Which wikis still need the Blocks Plugin? Japanese, Hungarian and Russian? - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 17:18, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
Dmith our russian Wiki Admin suggested to make a topic about this in the Advanced Topics to ask for help. What do you think? Who would like to create such a topic? - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 14:27, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
I think that's a good idea, specially to find help from outside the wiki, perhaps by the scratch team or advanced programmer who want to join and help us. Who is able to invest some time to modarare this? I think the best candidate would be one sysop/admin of the international Wikis (see de:WikiWatch) because of the direct access to the plugin. Who of you is interested?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 10:41, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
I've also talked about it with P110 and he'll check it ou. So maybe let's wait till SC on monday :) - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 13:24, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes Done - the articles have been created.
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11:53, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Can I move this to an archive? It's done.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 15:49, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, it should be archived.
Millie S.jpeg Millie S (talk|519 contribs|directory) 01:26, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── It will be archived next time the CP is archived (though do mention it once it's time, I'll probably forget)
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02:38, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis ?

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At the DACH-Scratch-Wiki we are interested in a Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis, but until now we did not find somebody who could integrate it. If you have a look at Scratch-Wikis on a mobile device, you'll see that's really difficult to read it and nearly impossible to edit. Also Search-Engines rank down Websites that don't use Responsible Design. It should not be to difficult to integrate Responsive Design, because you could take the Wikipedia Skin as a template Here is a Manual that could help:

Who of you is interested and who is able to manage it?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 08:37, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

I would love to help out, but that kind of stuff isn't my area sadly :(.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 10:42, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
I am interested in helping out. I have experience coding (Html, CSS, Java, Python, some JS), and depending on my schedule, I think I can help out. I should be able to tell for sure if I can help or not by or on Saturday.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 12:52, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
@ErnieParke: Great! It also would be good, to have an Admin of the English Scratch-Wiki helping with this...
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 09:08, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
This should be a collaborative effort :) I want to help out but I already scheduled a lot of other things, so I can't do it all myself. @ErnieParke: If you are going to work on it, can you put the code on GitHub so that I can maybe I can do tweaks to it and make a pull request? And I am sure there are also other interested Scratchers! @MartinWollenweber: Great idea!
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 12:03, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
sure, I'll put any work on github.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 10:41, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Update: I don't think I have enough time or the expertise to make a mobile design. Sorry. Maybe jvvg could help here?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:42, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I think I know of something that might be able to help you out here: mediawikiwiki:Extension:MobileFrontend and mediawikiwiki:Skin:MinervaNeue are what Wikipedia uses for its mobile view. Consider getting them?
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13:00, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

Not Done!

No Not done but I hope somone of the SW-admins is able to help. I think this will get important, as the Scratch-Team is also working an a mobile-device-version of Scratch (preview was shown at de:Scratch2015AMS including iOS-device :-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 21:19, 13 September 2015 (UTC) +
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:00, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I will be working on a mobile version of the skin (or maybe just responsive design for the current skin) throughout the summer, or maybe earlier if time allows.
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11:52, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
Waiting...
Millie S.jpeg Millie S (talk|519 contribs|directory) 01:29, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"

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Click this picture to jump to "ScratchWiki:Watch"

To hold this long thread readable I build sub-Threads. I also moved individual conversions and answered it there (hope you don't mind). Please write new appliances to get " "International Scratch Wiki Coach"" there. Please answer each Sub-Thread at it's end:

Introduction

After presenting at de:Scratch2015AMS (see [1]) (and before at de:Scratch2013BCN see[2]) we have some just starting International Scratch Wikis. We found out, that there is much more work, than me de:user:Mtwoll, de:user:LiFaytheGoblin and de:user:akhof can handle.

We just started international Scratch-Wikis where we were sure, that there are Scratchers of that language that would really work hard for their Scratch-Wiki, but it seems that those people all need help, coaching and motivation, to cope with the problems of a just started Wiki: It seems that only id: is completely on the right track until now (Thanks to id:user:Rumanti, who made a great start and motivated some other Indonesian Scartchers to help). ru: is also evolving slowly but there seem to be too less active authors with just ru:user:Dimon4ezzz and ru:user:Timkoiko. With ja: we have great hopes in ja:user:Jp86143 and ja:user:Abee who just started. But hu: and nl: are still in a kind of "starting position".

In opposite to the English and German Scratch-wiki the starting Scratch-Wiki-Authors have no templates and existing articles where they can look up what is needed and mostly less experiance in Wikimedia-Syntax. Also some of them have problems with the English language: Naturally they know it, but everything lasts longer with misunderstandings and so on. (My English isn't perfect either, but where is a will there is a way ;-) Ironically the language-communities that have the biggest problems with English language need a Scratch-Wiki the most. Imagine the English Scratch-Wiki had nearly zero articles and templates and you could only see other wikis in languages that you know only a little bit. Also imagine that your Scratch community was not so big than the english-language one (see Wikipedia: World_language#Living world languages).

How would you start? Therefore I'm asking you for your help: Who of you wants to get „International Scratch Wiki Coach "? You would get an account and perhaps also admin-rights at all existing international wikis (depending on your activity). You should be an experienced Scratch-Wiki author in the English Wiki (>1 year membership and >300 edits?). We already have some de:Scratch-Wiki:Team_Mitglieder#Interwiki Autoren but that's only Interwiki, not coaching. It would really be great, if some of the English Scratch-Wiki-Admins would also apply for this job: They would immediately get Admin rights at all other international Wikis and perhaps also FTP-rights, if they are experienced with that "under the hood"-stuff. To see what goes on, we have made de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch. There are also many other ideas from the International Scratch-Wiki-Community (e.g. automized-account-application everywere, multinational-accounts like in Wikipedia, international templates, Scratch-Projects inside the Scratch-Wiki like we have it in DACH, international Blocks Plugin support, #Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis ?, conecting scratch-wikis as a part of the scratch-editor-help…)...

...but let's begin with the beginning :-) Who wants to help and applies for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:16, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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Individual Threads with scratch-wiki-authors that want to help

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answer of TheHockeyist

answer of KrIsMa

answer of ErnieParke

answer of jvvg

answer of Mathfreak231

answer of Rumanti

Forum Thread: Scratch Wiki in Your Native Language

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@All: Am I right that all of you know this Forum Thread? Diskussionsforen » Translating Scratch » Scratch Wiki in Your Native Language (New)] . user:ErnieParke created it and sort of curates it (Thank you very much Ernie!). There are some other language communities that could be ready to start with their own native wiki in the future.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs)

Link-Table: Authors wih multiple Scratch-Wiki-Accounts

I put a Table here that shows de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch#Authors wih multiple Scratch-Wiki-Accounts. Please feel free to correct it if there are any mistakes.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 15:49, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

New Idea for the future of international Scratch-Wiki or even more

First Successes

It's great that so many experienced scratch-wiki-members will help us with international wiki and we had the first success within a few days:

If you want to have a impression of the international scratch community, have a look at this videos of the Scratch2015AMS-Conference. You will also find a (horrible ;-) video of user:LiFaytheGoblin and me there, where we try to introduce our international scratch wiki idea. You will also find many other People at the multiple short videos, that you perhaps could know, like Joren Lauwers user:JSO, Tim, Connor & Michael, Jens Mönig & John Malloney that gave a first look at their logical successor of BYOB & Snap! called GP, Ricarose & Eric from the Scratch-Video-Update, Eric Rosenbaum, Mitch Resnick and so on... best is the whole international scratch community singing the Scratch song :-) de:Scratch2015AMS was real great!


MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 22:17, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Seriously this is even better than everything is expected! I noticed we have the authentication system now (THANKS A TON, jvvg) but wow so much happening in the other wikis as well! This is great!!! Thanks everyone, I can't wait to see what the next weeks will bring :D - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 10:22, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

Test-Scratch-Wiki is online!

Like explained in "#New Idea for the future of international Scratch-Wiki or even more" we started http://TEST.scratch-wiki.info/ that will have much lower restriction for new wiki-authors and that will be a kind of "really big sandbox", where everybody who wants can start a scratch-wiki of his own language to prove if he is able. We will help and coach to make a start, but only if we see success there (>50 articles + homepage), we will start a real wiki for this language. There is still much work to do, because until now this wiki is completely empty. We should write/copy help-text and templates there. user:jvvg, de:LiFaytheGoblin and de:mtwoll are admins there and I hope that user:jvvg will manage to create an automatic account creation system that fits to the targets of this test-scratch-wiki.

@user:jvvg: Please write here when it works and how to use it, so that everybody who wants to help can join.

We need your ideas an help to make this happen! Find most important international links at de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch. Please comment here, what you will do to help. Thank you in advance!
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 15:28, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Good to know! What do you recommend we do with this forum topic ?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:56, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
The test-wiki is not ready for start now, but after it is ready, we should inform all participants of this this forum topic how they immediately can get authors in the test-wiki and how they can make a start for the first 50 pages and the community of a scratch-wiki in their own language there. I suggest you prepare the invitation and explanation text in a sandbox (you could take the text above and shorten it as a start), so that we all can take part in creating this text. We should not inform the participants of that thread to early, because we still need some time for preparation. I think it will decrease success if we start inviting new authors without having everything ready.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 01:39, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Not Done!


MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:54, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I already joined. :P
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 15:28, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, that's great! Hope many other will join us. I already wrote at your user-DISC, see: http://test.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/User_talk:AghaCool :-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 15:55, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Yep! I told fmtfmtfmt2 to join and his account was accepted.:)
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 15:39, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal?

No Not done Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal? In de:Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal it is no problem (but in and id:Pembicaraan_Scratch-Indo-Wiki:Portal_Komunitas it seems to be, just tried it...).
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 14:00, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Hmm.. Does the CP needs interwiki(s)? Because I didn't see any interwiki in this CP.
Really_A (talk | contribs) 23:34, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Interwiki at cp only means that the cp's of all Scratch-Wikis would have a language-link box, so you could switch between them fast and find them without knowing the language (like Interwiki in any article). Surely it only helps you if you have a lttle knowledge of the other language, or if they use english for some threads (what we often do in DACH because we have some non-german-speaking authors that help us). If you put [[:de|Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal]] in the cp here (that should create the Interwiki-Link to Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal) it has not that effect like in an article, because cp is somehow special configurated.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:44, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh I see. Anyway, I have a question; should I add an interwikis to the Indo wiki?
Really_A (talk | contribs) 14:44, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
id: already has Interwiki, as you can see in multiple articles that have a language-link in the language-Box to other Scratch-Wikis (like the Homepage). See Scratch_Wiki:Interwiki for explanation of Interwiki. But you can look for possibly missing Interwiki-Links.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:46, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Well, I see. But the indo's CP still doesn't has any interwiki.
Really_A (talk | contribs) 09:02, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Interwiki seems only to be possible at certain group of pages. Surely I could setup it somewhere in the config of the international scratch-wikis (because I'm admin+bureaucrat+sysop ), but I don't know where to do it. At de: there seems to be a configuration difference (possibly an error :-) that allows you to interwiki-connect de:Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal. Does somebody know how to set up wiki-config, so interwiki-connection works for every cp? As I'm no admin+bureaucrat+sysop of this English wiki, I couldn't do it here, even if I knew how ;-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:44, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── The problem I assume is true is that the community portal is actually a talk page.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:29, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Not Done!

This Thread is No Not done! Because I think we should find a way to Interwiki-connect the community portals of all international Scratch-Wikis here:*


MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:00, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

I am currently looking into this problem. It seems to be stemming from the fact that our CP is a talk page, but the DACH/Indo CP are not.
This problem is even present on the DACH wiki. See my talk page: [:de:Benutzer_Diskussion:ErnieParke]
Do you mind if I do a quick interwiki test on the Test wiki?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 15:26, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
Yes, do that test, that's a good idea!
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 15:56, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
The only other way is to change the cp into mainspace, which is not feasible.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:38, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
I tried looking up some information but it is proving to be hard to understand. For now, I will try translating a DACH article (if there are any not translated yet).
ErnieParke (talk | contribs)
Thank you very much for trying, I also try to learn more about mediawiki-namespaces and their different effects, perhaps we find a solution in the future. Until than this thread will stay have the state No Not done
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 07:48, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────it's not possible to put interwiki on a talk.--
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Because the CP is a talk page, direct interwiki is impossible. Interwiki links must go on the mainspace page: Scratch Wiki:Community Portal. We may end up simply redirecting the mainspace page to the talk page, if it becomes that important, but that would also mean that we can't interwiki-link to other wikis.
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11:57, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

Should "Griffpatch" become a wiki article?

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Now, I know that you're not supposed to create articles about users and all, but arguably, griffpatch is now a part of Scratch culture. The same goes for "Kaj"; they have an article, and they were a user once. However, since they became part of Scratch culture, they were allowed to have a topic made for them. So, we at the Discord chat have all been thinking about what to do. What are your thoughts on the matter? Of course, we would probably have to contact griffpatch about it to see if they're OK with it first.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 04:01, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

I've put the logs of the Discord conversation here for anyone that can't access it. I will say that I don't really mind that much whether we choose to make a Griffpatch article or delete the Kaj one, but I definitely do think that we should be consistent. I would argue that Griffpatch would actually make for a better article than Kaj, as it doesn't have that teasing element to it. It's also undeniable that Griffpatch is a huge part of Scratch culture nowadays, while Kaj is honestly dieing out a bit.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 04:11, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
So far, it seems like the reasoning for a griffpatch article is that he's massively popular, that he has the most popular Scratch project, he has a massive whitelist for chat projects, etc...
This is not what the wiki is for. It's not a popularity contest.
However, on that note, an article is allowable on other grounds. For example, the griffpatch problem. The ST acknowledged that many new Scratchers have trouble because they aim too high.
If there was more content in this direction, a griffpatch article would be acceptable.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 04:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
I personally would support a Griffpatch article.
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I'm pretty much neutral about this. Even though Griffpatch is one of the most well-known Scratch users, I think he's a bit overrated. Also, Kaj's account was deleted, but Griffpatch's still exists, so we may need his permission.
Nickeljorn (talk | contribs) 19:28, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
I have a sudden concern with this: What happens if Griffpatch suddenly decides to come on the Wiki? If he's accepted, he'll have a userpage and a mainspace page about him. Otherwise, I'm neutral.
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01:58, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
So what...?
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 02:04, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
I personally would be in favour of a griffpatch article because I feel that he is as notable if not more notable than Kaj. I would also be in favour of not adding a griffpatch article and removing the Kaj article as well. (For the reasons stated above by Hamish)
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 14:50, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────For as long as I have been on the wiki, the criteria for articles about the community, users, projects, studios and collaborations has been "Was the product "sponsored" by the Scratch Team? This definition is tangable in a sense concerning all the above mentioned topics. "Kaj" became "sponsored" when the Scratch Team used him to describe an important point to the community. My impression is that this wiki is not about what really occurs in the community but more about what the Scratch Team does and the projects which they decide to back. Studios and collaborations are "sponsored" when they are set up by the Scratch Team and/or run by them. Forums have articles because they were set up by the Scratch Team, and so forth. My worry is that if we change this definition to what we define as "Scratch culture" I believe we lose the philosophy which has been held here. How we define "Scratch culture" is much less clear than the previous definition which I layed out. :) Now this does open up many new topics which may deserve articles because an argument can be made that they were "sponsored". The "griffpatch effect" as mentioned by ErnieParke may be an active problem that the Scratch Team is concerned with, and therefore deserves an article. Does "Griffpatch" deserve an article? No, b/c then we would need to write articles for many, many more community entities that deserve such. "WazzoTV" or "HobsonTV", with over 10,000 followers each may need articles as well. It would change our focus from being wiki editors to being wiki journalists, constantly updating and adding articles based on the newest cultural changes. Just my two cents on the matter ;)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 20:57, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes. He should. It could start with “Griffpatch is a very famoous scratcher…”
Forested (talk | contribs) 09:23, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Did you read any of the previous replies...?
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10:20, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Okay... First of all, the community guidelines clearly forbid making pages on other users. Kaj was an exeption because he/she made a huge mark on scratch History. Griffpatch has not done that, he's just a pop culture icon on scratch. Second of all, the point of the wiki is to make informative articles on features of the website, and the editor. Griffpatch does not fit into that. third of all, griffpatch is merely one of the many scratch culture icons that still exist. If we are going to delve into pop culture as a part of the wiki, as Makethebrainhappy told us, the wiki is going to turn into a magazine, with all wiki editors becoming journalists. Fourth of all, there are many other exellent scratchers out there. We only consider griffpatch because he is more noticed. Other exellent scratchers may feel discouraged after seeing the extent of icons fame, while they don't have that kind of fame. And last of all, creating this page would go against all the principles of scratch. Scratch was not created as a site to collect fame and popularity. As a matter of fact, fame is often discouraged on scratch, as the whole point of scratch is a place where everyone can share, get feedback on their projects, and overall, become a balanced community. It just doesn't seem fair to make an article on him/her when there are scratchers out there that nobody knows exists.
Knitt (talk | contribs) 03:39, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
There are points to be made for this, though. Griffpatch has almost become as much a community phenomenon as Kaj has become. In Scratch, "griffpatch" and "fame" have almost become synonymous (and "kaj" and "hacker" have a similar synonimity). I think a previous point about the griffpatch effect is valid - so many Scratchers face problems because they try and fail to be as famous as griffpatch. We could potentially have the article "Griffpatch Effect" rather than just "griffpatch" for such a phenomenon, though.
I think, however, that the most major point in my mind against "griffpatch" itself being an article is that a mainspace article must be about Scratch. For example, the Scratch Welcoming Committee has an article (even though it's a studio!) because it's an actual part of Scratch itself, rather than the community. Imagine adding "on Scratch" after every article title, e.g. "Kaj on Scratch". That makes sense, right? Kaj, on Scratch, has become a major part of Scratch itself. Or e.g. "Scratch Wiki on Scratch". That also makes sense - it's about the part that the Scratch Wiki plays on Scratch itself. Or e.g. "How to Find a Minimum and Maximum Number on Scratch". That makes even more sense (and more grammatical sense too!), since it talks about how to find a minimum and maximum number, using Scratch. But "Griffpatch on Scratch"? That doesn't make sense - griffpatch himself hasn't had any effect on Scratch itself, only the community. "Griffpatch Effect on Scratch", however, would be much less ambiguous - it would specifically talk about the griffpatch effect on Scratch, not griffpatch's effect on Scratch.
TL, DR: I think griffpatch doesn't really deserve a mainspace article, but "Griffpatch Effect" might.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
05:11, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
I think griffpatch isn't the only person to have had such a massive impact on scratch culture. What about WazzoTV? Hobson_TV? Kevin_11_1234? They have aslo made their way into a hypothetical 'hall of fame'. Instead, I feel it would be better to create a page on scratch culture, and include all of these guys/gals in the page.
Knitt (talk | contribs) 15:48, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
No, because as listed before, even though he is big on Scratch, in may cause any of the following to other Scratchers/Editors:
  • Feel discouraged because they're not as advanced as him
  • Feel down about how they aren't as popular
  • Feel like they must delete their account
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Editors:
  • We'll become journalists
  • We have to constantly update the article for new facts, details, numbers, etc.
  • We'll have a bunch of comments on our Scratch profiles like do this and do that.
  • We willl become a newspaper, not a Wiki.
  • There will be no fun in editing anymore.
    NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 15:45, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I actually support this idea. Griffpatch has become the first thing that comes to mind when you think of ‘fame on scratch’ and his games are massively popular. Contrary to what other people are saying, just because we make an article on griffpatch doesn’t mean we have to make an article on all popular people. Griffpatch is the most popular User by a fair margin so I do not believe that it would make us feel urged to create an article on all popular scratchers.
Hellounicorns2’s current logo.png нεllσυηιcσяηs2 (тαlкcσηтяιвsρяσғιlε) 09:49, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

I disagree with the idea. It breaks the wiki guidelines. While kaj was famous, it was a point in time. Griffpatch is not a point in time. We'd just make a wiki page about how awesome he is.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (1,960)) 10:39, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Embedding of Scratch Projects

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Hey! :) I was thinking it'd be cool if we could embed Scratch projects into the wiki. They could be used in place of the existing example projects in the Pen Projects article, used on certain tutorial pages to demonstrate an expected result or even show a process more easily using an animation.

At the moment, you can't use the <iframe> tag required for embedding a Scratch project on the wiki. I've done a little research, and it looks like the easiest way to allow iframes would be to install this Media Wiki plugin. The good thing about this extension is that it doesn't allow the embedding of any iframe, it can be configured to only allow the embedding of Scratch projects, for example.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 22:02, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

My concern is that having projects load on a WIki page could be slow and take up a lot of RAM and make things slower overall.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 22:09, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
I definitely take your point. As long as we only embed one low-asset project per page though, it's impact on loading times would be more limited.
One article I thought could benefit is Pen Art Examples. For example, this project could be used to let readers see how it is rendered, in addition to the existing pictures. Readers could also then click the link and see inside to learn more.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 17:18, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
We could just make a gif of the pen being rendered.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 17:21, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
I have a(n) (possibly better) idea. If we could enable video files to be uploaded, then we could make screen recordings of example projects and have those recordings directly in articles. Thoughts?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:07, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
If I'm correct, mp4's were suggested before and accepted, but support was not added to the wiki.
This time around, when I re-suggest mp4's, how about we compile a list of what pages would benefit from it? Having examples is good motivation.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 14:18, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
Sure! I think over 3/4 of all How To pages and tutorials would benefit from this :P
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:30, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Support! It would be like the YouTube videos on the Minecraft Gamepedia Wiki!
Forested (talk | contribs) 19:38, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
This wouldn't take up almost any ram at all if we just use iframes to the main scratch website. :/
TheUltimatum (talk | contribs) 19:12, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I made an extension which allows <scratch project=""> tag. (github) Code is reviewed by user:kenny2scratch. This can only embed Scratch projects, and you don't have to upload big files - like mp4. Big files are laggy.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,690edit 03:31, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

Yeahhh, but I don't think certain articles would benefit. Take platformer. A video won't show the controls, and how you make it. I think embedded video tutorials would be the best in this case.
Knitt (talk | contribs) 02:07, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All

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One of the complexities of documenting Scratch is it changes so much. When Scratch transitioned from 1.4 to 2.0 there was an unbelievable amount of work on the Wiki that required tons of articles to be updated. This reached the solution of keeping articles relating to Scratch 1.4 but denoting them by putting "(1.4)" in the title of the article. For example, the older version of Paint Editor is Paint Editor (1.4). Another example is Project Compression (1.4) which is the old version of Project Compression.

I think we need to set in place some standards. In the future, we are going to have to do this for Scratch 3.0, so it's better if it can be done consistently. Firs thing to discuss is:

Past or Present Tense - I have noticed it is not always consistent. For example, Scratch Forums (1.4) discusses the forums in past tense. Paint Editor (1.4) uses the present tense, though that may make more sense since you can still use Scratch 1.4 while the Scratch forums are nonexistent. However, an article like Project Downloading (1.4) talks in the present tense even though project downloading on the Scratch 1.4 site is not possible since that old version of the site does not exist.

So I wonder, for an article that documents a feature in an old version of Scratch that is still accessible like the 1.4 Paint Editor, should it be: past or present tense?

For an article that documents a feature in an old version of Scratch that is impossible to access and there solely for history, should it be: past or present tense?

In the latter case of an article that documents an unavailable feature just for history, if present tense is used it sort of gives off the feel that that is how the article would be read if you were to be reading it in 2010 or whenever. This may make sense if we want our articles to sort of be like a frozen time capsule of the past. But if past tense is used, that could also make more sense because it's not 2010 but 2017.

Block Pages - This brings up another issue, and it has to do with block pages. An example of this is Distance to () (block). Please note that there is no Distance to () (block) (1.4) page on the Wiki, and that is so because this block is available in both Scratch 1.4 and 2.0, so we believed it was not necessary to document the same block in a prior version of Scratch. I'm starting to think, though, it might be a good idea.

Take a look at the script on that page. It uses the if <> then block as well as the stop [all v] block. Both these blocks are sort of in Scratch 1.4, but "if ()" then was just "if ()" and "stop [all v]" was just "stop all". So if somebody is using Scratch 1.4 and looks up the documentation of this block on the Wiki, the scripts in the article may use blocks not available in 1.4. There are probably more examples of block pages on the Wiki that use blocks not in Scratch 1.4, probably more dire examples than mine above.

It's just something to think about. How do we want to make our Wiki consistent throughout history to avoid any possible confusion? Do block articles deserve a (1.4) version or not? Eventually we are going to have (2.0) articles. It's best to decide stuff like this at the present moment.

If Block - I just noticed there happens to be no article on it. Technically "if () then" is only in 2.0, so shouldn't "if () (block) (1.4)" be an article?

Titles of Articles on items not in 2.0 - Examples of what I am talking about are the articles Stop All (block) as well as Java Player. The titles of these articles do not have (1.4) in the title because, well, they are not available in Scratch 2.0! So, I'm going to ask you guys, do you think by not having (1.4) in the title, it can be misleading, making people think it's a feature still available?

It does say at the top, "This article or section documents a feature not included in the current version of Scratch (2.0). It is only useful from a historical perspective" so I do not believe anybody reading the article is going to be confused and think the Java Player still exists. But do you think it should or should not have "(1.4)" in the title, or should "(1.4)" only be in the title of articles on features that have been replaced in Scratch 2.0?
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 22:41, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Turkey3 at it again with the great writing! I intend to move some things (leaving redirects, ofc) once I have time.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
23:38, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Firstly, I think that this is a very important topic. It's important to get this right, or, like you say, things could get more messy and complicated.
So, here are my views:
I agree that past tense should be used when something is no longer accessible, it's odd to say 'you can' if you can't anymore. Similarly, I support using present tense on still accessible but outdated features because you still 'can'.
I don't think we should make 1.4 versions of articles for blocks that are unchanged on both versions. Examples are only examples, so I don't believe it's worth duplicating a page for them. That being said, it should be good practice to make examples as 1.4/2.0-friendly as possible.
I also agree with making a 'if () (block) (1.4)' article as the change between versions could be a cause for confusion, and this article could help clear up that confusion.
I believe that the version number used on an article on an outdated feature should be the last version it was available in, making it clear that it is no longer used.
Furthermore, a feature on the current version should have no version number in my opinion, as this causes lots of moving when Scratch updates and also makes it appear to be historic, as the version number looks like it's denoting a secondary, or outdated version of something.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 18:52, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
So with that said do you believe the title should be "Java Player" or "Java Player (1.4)"?
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 19:04, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I support Java Player (1.4) and Stop All (block) (1.4) and at this moment I also support Flash Player and Stop () (block). However, when Scratch 3.0 comes, I believe that Flash Player should become Flash Player (2.0) and there should be a new article titled HTML5 Player.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 19:20, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I changed the article about [[https://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Project_Downloading_(1.4)%7CProject Downloading (1.4) to past tense as you can no longer do it.
Blessing06 (talk | contribs) 15:40, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
If this is still going on, I started to move it to 1.4, 2.0, etc.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 15:14, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

custom signatures

No Not done

Recently I've noticed many custom signatures break one specific rule:
The signature may not contain any background colors, images, or borders
Specifically, background colors and borders cannot be added to custom signatures. It is important to read that page fully before creating a custom signature. Please change it to satisfy that rule. Thank you!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:56, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

another suggestion: we could also propose to scrap that rule so if you're up for it you may start a discussion.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:59, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
That is what I had said in my post here.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 17:03, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
clearly it got archived quicker than it should of! we'll label this not done so that doesn't happen.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:09, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Some signatures I've seen with background colors or borders don't seem to be causing any problems in my opinion, but that's just my opinion. :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:21, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
There was an issue that came up on the CP when someone used borders and backgrounds and some issues arose. I'm not sure what archive it's under but that was the reason the rule was added.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:27, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Ah. Then maybe it might be best to keep it as a rule.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:28, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I found the section with the new rules here. Not sure if that was it. Was it it?
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 18:17, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

yep, it's that one.
I still support a background-border free signature. keeps signatures super clear and also limits the amount of custom signatures on the wiki (keep in mind custom signatures are not recommended)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:42, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Is the font on mine clear enough? Just wondering...
Vuton Logo.png -Vuton- (Talk | Contribs | Pages) 18:47, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
@KrIsMa: I would support enforcing the rule of no borders no backgrouds (nbnb).
@Vuton: Yours is fine. If anything, I would have to change mine.
Content from older discussion (linked above):
</div>
If someone could fix the extra div tag, that would be great.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 21:12, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
You didn't even use {{collapse bottom}}... However, the extra div is something I've tried to fix and failed - no fix for that.

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── In my opinion, that previous discussion is all we need - as long as the borders and backgrounds aren't all around the sig I think it's fine. I really don't see the harm in having sigs with borders around "talk" and "contribs".

Background colors may be a bit more problematic - I wouldn't be upset if a sig I made had its background color removed. So I'm fine with that.

also "Kenny2Scratche" is the worst spelling of my name I've seen in a long time...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
05:29, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

I would like to bring up the issue with borders and background colors used for custom signatures again.
Right now it's now allowed, yet people still do it. In fact, it's becomming more prevalent. This shows that people will (unnoticingly) break the rules because others are doing so.
Clearly not many people read the page before making their signatures, regardless of if it actually should be allowed or not. We need a stronger force that monitors custom signatures of users, or we need to disallow it altogether.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 14:44, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
I don’t really mind custom sigs with background colours and borders tbh. As long as they don’t stand out too much they actually make discussions look prettier and easier to read.
Hellounicorns2’s current logo.png нεllσυηιcσяηs2 (тαlкcσηтяιвsρяσғιlε) 09:55, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

3.0 updating

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Note Note: before writing please read this

As a result of Scratch 3.0 releasing, we have to update a lot of articles.

  1. Is there anything more to update?
  2. Is it OK to use bots?
  3. When to update?

Updates are:

  1. {{Pen Blocks}} to {{Pen Extension}}
  2. Category:Pen Blocks to Category:Pen Extension
  3. Change {{block}} for 3.0 blocks (it's larger than 2.0!)
  4. Music Extension, LEGO WeDo Extension categorize and put a new template
  5. remove {{unreleased}}
  6. if there's XX (1.4) and XX, XX moves to XX (2.0), and XX (3.0) moves XX
  7. TOC remake
  8. Tutorials remake
  9. Upload blocks' images
  10. Remake scratchblocks
  11. put {{Obsolete feature}}

(everybody can edit this list, with Siggy!)

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Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,690edit 04:58, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

The ScratchBlocks plugin might need a style update.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:21, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
I'm making for it. 
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,690edit 10:21, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
...that repo is (effectively) empty? Also the current ScratchBlocks version is 3 - if we rewrite it the new version will be 4.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:34, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
i don't know how to use source from other repo..
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,690edit 22:06, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
The ScratchBlocks extension is fairly complicated. I think we would have to rely on Blob8108 to update it, if he feels like it. If you want, you can ping him on his Scratch profile to let him know he needs to get cracking on updating ScratchBlocks.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:51, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── +1 Kenny2Scratch, I second.
S-zhangcha (talk | contribs) 02:50, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

I am currently working with blob8108 on updating scratchblocks to fit the new format. The sourcecode is up at github.com/s3blocks. I need to get some work done to allow you to use it with the wiki.
NitroCipher.png NitroCipher (talk | contribs | edits | account) 15:02, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
For articles that are needing updates: Can I put {{update}}?
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,690edit 13:13, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Change Links

Things We have to Do

  • ST, please change the forum BBCode [wiki].
  • Yes DoneAdmins of international Scratch Wiki, please change the interwikis!
  • maybe Yes Done PyWikiBot owner in ALL INTERNATIONAL WIKIS, please check the "family file" again! This is placed at "/pywikibot/families/(family name).py". Change the domain to "en.scratch-wiki.info" and the version to 1.28.3
  • Yes Done Bot Owner of this wiki, please check things like above.


Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,690edit 12:43, 16 February 2018 (UTC)

On the main site, the footer link needs to be changed too (and on this site). :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:23, 17 February 2018 (CET)
You could just ping Ernie on Discord
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (1,960)) 18:45, 18 February 2018 (CET)

We have to delete Fair Use

The server is in Germany now. German copyright law doesn't allow Fair Use, so we have to delete all the fair use images. For example, screenshots of games are prohibited.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,690edit 08:13, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

I don‘t like that idea, even if I am the one that would have to bare the struggle, if we would really get legal problems. Until now in the DACH wiki we acted according to the saying „without complaint, there is no redress“... but you are right, that we must take the matter more serios. I‘m even considering moving our sever somewhere, where we have less legal problems...
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:20, 21 February 2018 (CET)
I think that legally, the images are not illegal until the owner of the game or whatever claims the images as their own - that is, until someone says "you cannot use this image, it contains my project in it" then that image is not illegal.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:00, 21 February 2018 (CET)
Are they copyrighted?
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 00:08, 22 February 2018 (CET)
Just move the server to a different place!
PrincessPandaLover Still Icon.png ♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 02:29, 22 February 2018 (CET)
@PrincessPandaLover: That's not "as" easy: It needs trust (in the new place, e.G. the new host should not sometimes "pull our plug"), knowledege of and trust in the law of that country + trust that we could cope better with that countries law than with German law, + econonomic work (which hosters offer's best), + technical work to analyse new server and not the last doing the transfer itself...IMHO - because we never got problems since 2012 wether with the DACH Scratch wiki, nor with the others - and because I don't got the time, we should postpone decissions about that.
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:07, 22 February 2018 (CET)
Hi everyone! I consultet with someone who is studying law in Germany and has some knowledge. Pictures like eg. a Mario sprite can not legally be on the Wiki. We could be fined for it. It is more likely that we get a "Aufforderung zur Abgabe einer Unterlassungsverpflichtung" which means we need to sign something that states we'll remove the picture and won't upload that content again, else we need to pay something (probably 5000€+). However, we can most probably put screenshots of Scratch games or so on here that have these sprites, since this would be categorized as "Kunstfreiheit" (freedom of art) because a new piece of art is created with it. Which images are these pictures that fall under fair use? Are they all in a certain category? Also, how do people upload profile pictures? They should not have copyrighted content. We should add a notification or so for that. -
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) 18:43, 23 February 2018 (CET)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I made a template {{fair use}} and a category Category:Images under Fair use.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,690edit 07:50, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

@Apple502j: Thanks! It‘s good to have an overview and to have the users of that pictures warned, even if we wait with the decission what to do with that pictures. How did the pictures that are already in that category get there?
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:07, 27 February 2018 (CET)
I checked a lot of images one by one.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,690edit 07:53, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but why are you treating Fair Use images like they have to be burned immediately?
PrincessPandaLover Still Icon.png ♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 00:37, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Because they basically do. Now that the servers are in Germany, we have no right to keep such images without being sued. So unfortunately all your game screenshots are now effectively illegal, and will likely need to be taken down.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:39, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Screw lack of fair use.
PrincessPandaLover Still Icon.png ♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 23:26, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

What should we call the Scratch 3.0 player?

There are some player articles like Flash Player, Java Player, HTML5 Player. So what should we call the 3.0 player? HTML5 Player is different from Scratch 3.0. My opinion:

  1. Move HTML5 Player to HTML5 Player (2.0) and make it as HTML5 Player (3.0)
  2. WebGL Player
  3. Scratch 3.0 Player
  4. JavaScript Player (added 01:56, 18 March 2018 (UTC))


Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,690edit 23:50, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

I thought the 3.0 Player used JavaScript?
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:47, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
HTML5 Player does too
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,690edit 01:56, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
"React Player" might work too - the 3.0 editor uses ReactJs
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:10, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
No Not done
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,690edit 11:56, 14 April 2018 (UTC)
I would just call it The 3.0 player.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:23, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
I'd call it the HTML5 PLayer, seeing as we've had the Java and Flash Players in the past.
Redglitter Profile Picture.gif Redglitter ~ (Talk Page ~ Contributions) ~ 07:31, 24 June 2018 (UTC)