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"Customhacker watch out"?
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 15:17, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
I was saying watch out for that problem, but that point is moot.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 15:22, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
- lol.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 15:41, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
- lol.
I reverted some edits of yours
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Done- I reverted your deletion of a Welcome Template. I just let it slide, as the user could be making their own template currently, and didnt want to post it yet. I did, however, also remind them that they should make their own personal one.
- I reverted your edits of User:-Vuton-/Welcome Template, as that was a violation of Userspace Rules. You may however, remind them that this needs to be fixed.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 21:16, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- NO. Posting the full-fledged welcome template is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Do not let it slide - the effects of doing so are way too immediate. Only the person accepting the account should use that template - no one else!
- My edit to that was NOT a violation of userspace - the template was breaking formatting on pages, so I made an immediate fix and notified the user.
- Furthermore, reminding them that they should make their own is NOT AN ACCEPTABLE SUBSTITUTE for removing the template, and reminding them that something needs to be fixed DOES NOT GUARANTEE that it will be fixed as immediately as it needs to be.
- Please undo your reverts - especially the removal of the full-fledged template. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 21:23, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- I understand your point of the Template. It will not be deleted, but it will need to be changed. The user has been told. However, the only exceptions to userspace rules are:
| “ | In general, although there are no technical restrictions to prevent this, editing pages that belong to another user is not allowed. There are only a few exceptions, which include:
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Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 21:37, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Since the user template was being used where wiki guidelines apply, the wiki guidelines apply to that instance of its usage - so I was removing content that violated the wiki guidelines.
- The standard welcome template that was placed for the second time will still need to be removed - not replaced when he gets on, removed immediately! He can add his personal template in a new section later.
- Also, please watch for a topic on the CP :) kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 21:46, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- If you need to edit a userspace for any reason that is not listed under the exceptions in S:USERSPACE, please ask an EW or an ADMIN before you do so.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 21:47, 15 August 2017 (UTC) - ”admin” should not be all caps
- Oh? Normally you ask the owner of the userspace. Well then, can I (or could you) please fix that welcome template so that it doesn’t break formatting?
- And also, if it hasn’t already been done, could the full-fledged duplicate welcome template be re-removed? kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 22:03, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- You may fix the welcome template that breaks formatting. Make sure to let the user know what you did, and that you discussed it with an EW first. The duplicate template, unless I am told by another EW or Admin, I would like to leave until the time it was posted tommorow. At that point, you may delete it.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 22:07, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- You may fix the welcome template that breaks formatting. Make sure to let the user know what you did, and that you discussed it with an EW first. The duplicate template, unless I am told by another EW or Admin, I would like to leave until the time it was posted tommorow. At that point, you may delete it.
- If you need to edit a userspace for any reason that is not listed under the exceptions in S:USERSPACE, please ask an EW or an ADMIN before you do so.
! Removal
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How come it was removed? Also, if it is removed permanently, the doc needs to be fixed, and I dont know how to do that.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 22:15, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Removed? Whaddaya mean? kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 22:17, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
without a ! mark!
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 22:19, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, I thought it wasn’t nice to not be able to remove the ! - so I removed it, and now you need to add an exclamation mark manually. I can fix the doc :) kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 22:22, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- I think that there should be an extra parameter so you can add whatever punctuation you'd like.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 22:24, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- *shrug* sure! I guess the default would be an exclamation mark kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 22:25, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- When your first asterisk becomes a bullet.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 22:27, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- When your first asterisk becomes a bullet.
- *shrug* sure! I guess the default would be an exclamation mark
- I think that there should be an extra parameter so you can add whatever punctuation you'd like.
- Oh, I thought it wasn’t nice to not be able to remove the ! - so I removed it, and now you need to add an exclamation mark manually. I can fix the doc :)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 22:31, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
Your Bot
Congratulations!
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 22:19, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks! Testing was successful in the end too, so now I’m just waiting for a response. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 22:23, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
- :)
TemplatesFTW (talk | contribs) 08:40, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
- :)
New Template
How do you like User:Customhacker/Inactive Template? I made it myself.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 21:13, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
- I was just going to check it out - but I clicked the wrong link and went to the “this page has been moved” page :p kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 21:26, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
Meow Wiki
Is anyone allowed to edit?
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 15:19, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
- Didn't expect you on!
- Anyone can edit after commenting on the talk page. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 15:20, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Do we need a page for the More Blocks option, 'Run without screen refresh'?
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I was using this for my 3D Engine I'm programming, but I had to chase forums threads and references to it in other articles. Do we need to create a page for it and it's uses?
-unsigned comment by SwoopyDoopy1 (talk | contribs)
- I know I'm not ken, but:
- 1. I like this idea!
- 2. please sign your posts using four ~
- 3. Please don't post things twice...
Yzyzyz (talk | contribs) 15:21, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Swoopy (can I call you that?)!
- I think we don't need a separate page for this option - a section is fine in Define () (block), which I believe we already have. We do have a page on atomicity, but that's in a general sense and it also has a section on the More Blocks option.
- Also, for future references, questions like these go on the Community Portal, not on a single user's talk page.
- TL, DR: Try expanding Define () (block)#Run without Screen Refresh, instead of making an entire article. Also, questions like these should go on the Community Portal. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:05, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Feedback
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Could you please tell me what you think of my template? Thank you 
(You don't have to if you don't want to) bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 15:16, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
- To be brutally honest, I don't like the idea. I believe that people should figure out their own style of welcome template, instead of all following one standard. Also, if people start using it and then you change it, you're effectively editing the messages of multiple people at once, all over the place. You'll notice that my welcome template is a) the first one, and b) the only one that has the image to one side. Then someone else made one and everybody copied their style instead of learning how to make their own.
- I think you can see by now that I really dislike - not user templates, but user templates that control other user templates. This, I think, is the crucial difference. I'm fine with customhacker's Inactive Template, since there's nothing bad about it - it's simply something to show that you'll be away. However, your idea is something that controls how other user templates look. That is much more dangerous.
- TL, DR: It's all well and good enough in its function, but I don't like the concept - it's too dangerous. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 00:34, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
- Wait, but why would I change my template? (Also, if someone else changed it, it would violate the userspace rule) (I don't believe your template was the first welcome template).
- Thanks for the feedback though -- I appreciate it bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 00:36, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- What I meant by the first one and the only one to use the image on the side, was that this mine is the first one to use the image on the side, not that it's the first template ever.
- As for why you'd change it - I don't know, but there's still the possibility. Maybe you got blocked and decided to change the template to "you guys all suck" (I know you'd never do this - but the possibility is there.) kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 00:39, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- First off, I would never do that.
- If I do, I give you--or any other editor, for that matter--permission to revert my edit. bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 00:42, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- That's all well and good - but I'm keeping my stance, since never letting it happen is much better than fixing it after it happens.
- Don't worry, I'm fine with others using it - I'm saying it's a bit risky. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:28, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
- First off, I would never do that.
@Kenny2scratch. Make sure you keep up with the pattern! Every comment in this thread has an emoji in it except yours!
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 00:06, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- xD bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 00:14, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- Again, go ahead and use it - I'll just be hovering around it nervously kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 00:31, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
- Again, go ahead and use it - I'll just be hovering around it nervously
A Question
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Do you think that I need to archive my talk page? Yzyzyz (talk | contribs) 13:13, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
- I think 20 topics is a good time to archive, but that's my opinion - jvvg seemed to wait until 80, and I know for a fact that KrIsMa is waiting for 100.
- For me, 20 works though - so I think you don't need it just yet. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:56, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
I have decided my job on the wiki! (Main job)
As you probably remember, I was saying how inactive I am, as I already said, thank you! I have been press random page quite a lot! I am now going around de-personalizing articles! (You probably know that xD)
I have been actively looking at the recent changes, and.... Im trying to get on the active user's list! xD
One day, (when my grammar is better xD) I would love to be an EW, and thats what I'm going for! Thank you for all your help!
I'll see you more!
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 05:45, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
- Great for you! For your information, we have a bot, TemplatesFTW, that goes around de-personalizing articles semi-automatically. Don't worry - it can't see everything, so you can go ahead and do what you do.
- Random page is a great thing, right? It helps you find a lot.
- Looking at the recent changes lets you see what's been going on - keep doing that and you'll be able to occasionally join in on discussions (I encourage that!).
- You're going for EW? Good luck :D! I hope to be one too (I could really use the privileges).
- See you around! kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 07:36, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Mouse talking
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How do you talk through the mouse?
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Bob1171 (talk | contribs) 05:18, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
- Oh hi there! I used the
titleattribute of HTML elements:
<div title="talking through the mouse">normal content</div>
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 23:22, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
your new template
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Can you explain to me what it does and how to use it? Yzyzyz (talk | contribs) 17:59, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
- It simply adds a little box on the right containing a little summary of the topic's situation - who's been assigned to deal with it, general labels about it, whether it's done or not, when it's due to be done, and what people have reviewed it.
- Usage:
{{User:Kenny2scratch/Topic
|assignees=Kenny2scratch;yzyzyz
|labels=question,blocked
|done=yes
|reviewers=Kenny2scratch:yes
|due=March 14th, 2015
}}
- I've put that exact usage at the top of the topic to show you the result. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:33, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
Look at what I can do
Boxes and Shadow demo and background image included.
1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 03:13, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
- I actually already saw that - good job! Background image is hard to do without the actual CSS property. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:32, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
A Question...
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How do you make your sidebar collapsible? Bob1171 (talk | contribs) 17:06, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
- It's just a couple div properties that already exist. You can look at their sidebar page for specifics.
Duckboycool (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 23:12, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
- If you look closely, you’ll notice a few things:
- The main div has
class="mw-collapsible"andid="mw-customcollapsible-sidebar". This makes it collapsible, and specifies that it has custom labels that refer to the div called “sidebar”. - The “collapse” label has
class="mw-customtoggle-sidebar", meaning “this is a collapse/expand link for ‘sidebar’.” - The “+” label also has
class="mw-customtoggle-sidebar", meaning “this is another collapse/expand link for ‘sidebar’.” - I deliberately put the “+” label behind the sidebar so that it would be hidden until the sidebar collapsed.
- Does that answer your question? kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 23:20, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
- Does that answer your question?
I saw the side bar that you have and I was wondering if you could help me create one. --
-Lillion- (talk | contribs) 01:20, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
- Sure! You can take a look at my sidebar for starters, and I'll be around to answer questions kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:09, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
First job as test wiki coach?
see: User talk:ErnieParke#Hey! I want to Create A Tamil Wiki On The Test Wiki And a Other Indian Wikis
Perhaps you could help?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 05:48, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
- Sure! I'll see what I can do. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:54, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
Hello!
Thanks for the welcome! I hope to have fun here on the wiki! Please provide me information about the wiki at any time(especially markup codes and what they do)!
78ch3 (talk | contribs) 05:22, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- No problem :D If you have any questions, as I said on your talk, feel free to ask me! If you need to quickly remember what the markup means, see Scratch Wiki:Cheatsheet. Have fun Wiki-ing! kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:25, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- Alright, thanks! We could chat here about the wiki here too! 78ch3 (talk | contribs) 21:27, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, if you read the content at the top of this page, you can ask me any questions - even personal questions (I have a Q&A project btw). So if you have questions (or even just comments) related to anything, not just the wiki, you can always come to me :D kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:33, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
- I was wondering if it is ok if I can get article ideas. I am not the best at factual information. I'm more of a fake information person who makes April fools articles. 78ch3 (talk | contribs) 20:10, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
- New articles are hard to come by nowadays. If you want stuff to do, try expanding Scratch@MIT2016 or similar articles - usually you can find material to use from the German version.
- Only editing AF articles is fine, too - we have another user, PrincessPandaLover, who does only that. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:22, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
- I was wondering if it is ok if I can get article ideas. I am not the best at factual information. I'm more of a fake information person who makes April fools articles.
- Actually, if you read the content at the top of this page, you can ask me any questions - even personal questions (I have a Q&A project btw). So if you have questions (or even just comments) related to anything, not just the wiki, you can always come to me :D
- Alright, thanks! We could chat here about the wiki here too!
Template FTW
I think that TFTW should not put {{Inaccurate}} on AF pages. bob1171 (talk | contribs) on Kenny2scratch's talk page. 16:20, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- It's harmless if it does, and any page with that many {{citation needed}}s should have {{inaccurate}} on it anyway... kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:28, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
Template advice?
I was just wondering what you think about my template. bob1171 (talk | contribs) on Kenny2scratch's talk page. 16:53, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
- We already have {{User|<username>|<"name", "talk", "scratch", or nothing>}}, FYI. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:30, 21 October 2017 (UTC)
YOU ARE RAVENCLAW?
sorry for all caps I am slytherin hahahha
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Whitetiger456 (talk | contribs) 16:21, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
- Hi there! Yeah, I am Ravenclaw :) - you'd never guess by all the blue on my userpage. You're Slytherin? Nice.
- Oh, by the way, why'd you post the same message twice? lol kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:17, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry to butt in, but I'm slytherin as well :) Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 05:58, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
- I wanted to be a Ravenclaw. Turns out I'm a Slytherin.
Yzyzyz (talk | contribs) 14:00, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
- Well, each is there own. I always turn out Slytherin, and I'm happy about it :D Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 20:54, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
- I think you mean "to each their own"? Well, I am a Ravenclaw whether I like it or not (I do like it though :)) kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:53, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
- I think you mean "to each their own"? Well, I am a Ravenclaw whether I like it or not (I do like it though :))
- Well, each is there own. I always turn out Slytherin, and I'm happy about it :D
- I wanted to be a Ravenclaw. Turns out I'm a Slytherin.
- Sorry to butt in, but I'm slytherin as well :)
Template Info
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Not doneHello. I am interested in how to create your own templates with multiple parameters and stuff, such as your template: Cool!. What information did you use, and would you mind showing me some things?
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 14:39, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- uh *shrug* sure! I’ll just stop using indents here so I don’t have to type a colon too many times :)
So when you’re making a template, you just put some standard text that you want to include everywhere. So let’s dissect Cool for a bit:
{{E|B)}} <b>{{{1|Cool}}}{{{2|!}}}</b><noinclude>{{/doc}}[[Category:Templates]]</noinclude>
So the emoji is just an emoji - no trickery there. Then there’s a bit of bold - no trickery there.
The trickery comes in the {{{1|Cool}}}. Let’s say you do {{example|test}}. Anywhere inside there, if there is a {{{1}}}, it is replaced with a “test” word - so it is basically a function parameter. If you want to specify something that that parameter should be if it’s empty (only white space or of zero length) then you add a pipe (|) and the default value.
So {{{1|Cool}}} produces Cool unless parameter “1” is specified.
Then you have a close to the bold, and then there’s a <noinclude> - that makes sure that part’s contents are never shown when transcluded - only when the template page is directly viewed. The {{/doc}} just transcludes Template:Cool/doc, and there’s a category in there too that shouldn’t be put on normal pages.
On some templates you will see an <includeonly> tag - what this does is the exact opposite of noinclude - it makes sure the stuff inside is only shown when transcluded - and never when viewed directly.
On user templates you might see <onlyinclude> tags - these are not the opposite of noinclude - but rather the inversion - it makes sure that only that content is transcluded.
Next lesson: magic words. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 15:02, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- Could we get a help page about this stuff? :P I knew almost none of this. Duckboycool (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 16:40, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
- There’s Help:Templates :) but I think I might want to revamp it ;) kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:38, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- There’s Help:Templates :) but I think I might want to revamp it ;)
- Could we get a help page about this stuff? :P I knew almost none of this.
Magic words - these are things that do special things when placed. There are theee main types of magic words - behavior switches, variables, and parser functions.
Behavior switches are anything in double underscores - like __TOC__ makes the table of contents appear whether it likes it or not.
Variables are usually things that look like templates but are in all caps, like {{CURRENTTIMESTAMP}} displays the current time stamp, like this: 20231003043931.
Parser functions are usually things that look like templates but have a colon (:) and sometimes a hash (#), like {{gender: username|male return string|female return string|unspecified return string}} produces the gender of the user as set in their preferences, like this: {{gender:customhacker|he|she|they}} produces they.
For a list of magic words and their uses, see Help:Magic words.
Next lesson, ParserFunctions. I’ll explain each parser function in detail because they’re used everywhere in templates. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 15:23, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
- Ok. Parser Functions.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 16:55, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
Parser functions. These are not built in - they come from a MediaWiki extension.
- {{#if: string | value if string is not empty or pure white space | value if string is pure white space or empty}} - this is kinda self-explanatory. If the thing you pass first is empty or only white space (white space includes spaces, new lines, and word-joiners), then it will return the last parameter. Otherwise, it will return the second to last parameter. This is mainly used on templates that can show a reason:
{{#if: {{{1|}}} | Reason: {{{1}}} }}
- Take careful note that there is a pipe (|) in {{{1|}}} - this makes the parameter become blank if not specified, instead of just showing up as {{{1}}}. *<nowiki>{{#ifeq: string | string2 | value if strings are equal | value if strings are not equal}} - this checks whether string1 and string2 are equal, and gives the second to last parameter if they are - and the last parameter otherwise. This is used in templates that support cat=no:
{{#ifeq: {{{cat}}} | no | <!-- leave this parameter blank! --> | [[Category:Whatever]] }}
- {{#expr: mathematical expression}} - evaluates a mathematical expression. Logical expressions are also supported - 3 and 4 returns bitwise 3&4, while 1 and 0 returns 0 (false). Not used much.
- {{#ifexpr: mathematical expression | value if expression evaluates to non-zero | value if expression evaluates to 0}} - checks the boolean output of the expression and returns corresponding values.
Part 2 coming soon - I need to get a bit of rest now. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 18:05, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
