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Hi I need help

Hi! So you commented on my talk page pretty recently and provided some links to pages that need more content. I was editing my page today and adding a few things and I deleted that message I think (?) Anyway do you mind telling me some places where I can find articles that need to be added too or edited? Thank you so much!

Lbtybxc (talk | contribs) 09:48, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

The message I put was:

Welcome to the Scratch Wiki! I look forward to the useful edits you'll make and hope you'll have fun here. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me on my talk page, where you can talk about the Wiki, get my help with templates, or even ask personal questions, and more! If you need quick help with wiki markup, take a look at Scratch Wiki:Cheatsheet. You might want to go to Category:Articles to Expand to find pages that need editing. I get my inspiration from Special:RecentChanges however, so looking at that helps too. See you around, Kenny2scratch;

Enjoy!

Oh, and why in the name of Schrödinger's cat did you post that message four times? Just asking.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:11, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

In the CP...

You put this discussion from your talk page into the CP for some reason. I suspect it was because you were archiving the topic and accidently put it into the CP.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 16:01, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

I did that to illustrate my point that talk pages are meant for personal conversations. Someone messed up the formatting though. :/

Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 16:52, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Ah I see. Sorry Ken, I assumed it was you accidently posting it on the CP while archiving.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 20:21, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Well I had to do some recent changes inspection to find out what went on... it's ok. FYI, it's very hard to mistake the CP for one of my archives :)

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:11, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

I hope that you do not mind that I used your talk page as an example. :)

Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 12:10, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

It's not a problem :D

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:25, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

New Page I Created

Did you see the Tips Page article I made earlier today? I think it really needs some improvements, though there wasn't really too much to say for each section, really.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 05:57, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

I saw that you made it; I didn't read it because I don't really feel involved in that. I'll take a look now, though.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:13, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for making the changes.

They were certainly needed, the whole article felt kind of rushed because, well... It was.

PS: Don't ask me why I'm awake right now; I'm heading off to bed immediately.

WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 06:21, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, nothing is perfect (except for that article you made several days ago; that didn't need anything :P).Good night!

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:23, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Deletion

Next time, please do not put a delete template until there has been discussion.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 12:07, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

A little context would be nice...

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:16, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Oh, the category.

There actually was discussion on that: Mitopolis suggested a "many templates" template, but the idea never went through. However, he made the category for pages with many templates, and also made a subpage on one mainspace page that had three templates. Since that idea was basically rejected, it was actually appropriate to put {{delete}} on there.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:19, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Oh. I never saw that. When did that happen?

Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 17:23, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

I think we are referring to Wiki Wednesday/Articles which has a brief discussion in here. However I chipped in my own opinion where I don't like the idea of it being deleted.

22:48, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

No, we’re referring to Category:Pages with Many Templates. Mitopolis suggested a new template, and made that category for it in advance. However, the template idea never went through, so that category should be deleted now.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:59, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

How do you get that font?

How do you get the font you use? What code is it?
Forested (talk | contribs) 17:07, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

This:

Makes:

PUT ALL YOUR TEXT THAT YOU WANT IN THIS FONT HERE

Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 17:52, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

In my particular case, in my header I put at the very very start <div style="font-family:Courier New, monospace" class="plainlinks"> and didn't ever close it, so that everything would be in that font. Handily enough, MediaWiki closes all unclosed tags for you, so that nothing is affected by it.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:33, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Gah!

You scared me there! How did you know I created that page that fast!? (also, you would have ninja'd me)
DownsGameClub (talk | contribs) 06:29, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Special:RecentChanges is my best friend :)

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:32, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Oh my gosh XD

DownsGameClub (talk | contribs) 06:33, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

How do you reply?

I want to reply to posts, but I don't know how to do it.
Thank you,
Eribetra (talk | contribs) 14:53, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

You just click the "edit" button to the right of the section title, then add your reply under the message with an extra colon (:) in front. (Like I'm doing now - there's a colon in front of my message and this message is below yours.) Make sure to end your reply with ~~~~ - but I see you did that already, so good for you!

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:36, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

In response to this...

I think that you are second from the left, at the back.

Am I right?
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 09:58, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Ha, no.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:59, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Umm... Are you...

Second from the right, at the front?
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 10:25, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Getting warmer...

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:40, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Third from the right?
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 12:52, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes, at the back.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:52, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

YEESSSSS!!!!!
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 12:58, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ face reveal :P
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:09, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 13:18, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Alert:

http://i.cubeupload.com/nFhnxu.png

Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 17:38, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Nice try :P

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:58, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

:P It's amazing what some simple "Inspect element" can do...
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 09:04, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

About your bot archive system

The link doesn't work. It just brings me to an error 404 page.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 10:43, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Oh, that's because I renamed the repository that contained it. Sorry about that, let me fix it.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:38, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Ok. Also, once I have done everything will it automatically detect Wikimonitor messages and move them?
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 12:59, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Uhh, no. When you press "edit" on your talk page, if you type into the edit summary box "Moving bot messages to archive" then click somewhere else, it'll automatically remove the last WM message and save. Then, you need to navigate to your bot archive. Once you've navigated there, there's nothing else - as soon as the page loads it'll load again and the bot message will be there. See User:Kenny2scratch/Project Guides/Bot Archiver for a better explanation.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:07, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

But I mean, will i have to manually do that every time i get a bot message?
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 13:18, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Oh, yes... there's not much you can do automatically with asynchronous XHR requests. If you want something that will automatically remove them for you, I could write something in Python that would do it.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:14, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Well it's probably easier to just C+V each time...
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 09:19, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I mean, do you want me to make something like that?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:47, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

If you could, yes please! :D
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 09:52, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

I'll get to work then :D. My only concern is that it could be taken as a bot.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:44, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Hmm... A bot to edit a bot... xD Anyway, if you can program it, I'm sure you would be granted permission; you're a trustworthy and active Wikian. How long does it take to request a bot?
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 14:17, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Well, the main difficulty in successfully getting a bot approved is the reason for it to exist. I've been trying to think of something a bot could do, but WikiMonitor has taken it all.

In this specific case, I think that me being a trustworthy Wikian is not the point - using your main account as a bot has serious repercussions, both technologically (normal user accounts have API limits) and permission-wise (it's almost bannable).

So I think that if it were allowed, the best way to proceed is to make sure that it knows you've seen the message before archiving it - but I don't know how you check if a user has visited a page.

I'll think about it more, but I won't start development until an admin (probably jvvg) has taken a look at the idea.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:52, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

What if it automatically adds your Bot Archive to your Watchlist? Then you would be notified when a new message has been added.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 09:18, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Recent changes patrollers like me don't actually check the watchlist :/
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:20, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes but a page on your watch list shows up in bold in the RC.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 09:30, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

I know that... I literally just removed every page off my watchlist because that bold is annoying. I just want to know if there's a way to check with the API whether someone's visited a page.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:31, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Hmm... I don't know. What if it notified you if a bot message is added to the page (similar to the message you get when someone edits your talk page, but it would say something like "You have a new bot message from WikiMonitor")?
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 13:36, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

You mean something like this?

You have a new WikiMonitor message in your bot archive

That would require code modification, and I think that that would be absolutely considered unneeded.

I have an idea, though: Have one section on your talk page be "You have a new message in your bot archive". When a bot message comes, automatically move it to the bot archive and move the section with a link to the archive to the bottom instead of reposting it. Makes sense?

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:04, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

A) Yes, that's exactly what I mean.

B) Yes, I get it, and that sounds like a good idea.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 20:38, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Stop right there!

http://i.cubeupload.com/1gKtsA.jpg
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 15:20, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Funny, but please watch the items present in the image.

Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 15:29, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

@Customhacker What? I don't see anything... Unless you mean the gun?

WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 16:39, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

???
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 16:50, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm sitting here laughing at the fact that you took the time to make that meme...

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:50, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

xD https://imgflip.com/memegenerator

Also, could you respond to my question above? Thanks.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 09:03, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Replied, and https://imgflip.com/i/1sktht

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:16, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘xD Ok.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 09:17, 16 July 2017 (UTC) ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Yes. @WolfCat67
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 21:12, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Interesting "Cool" Template Feature

! Now, with the new template, you can get a cool cat face, with no text. Except an exclamation mark. You should add to the template a way to remove the exclamation mark, such as: {{cool|awesome|nem}} or something. "NEM" stands for "no exclamation mark". That would be a nice feature.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 18:27, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Well I think it would just make more sense to use just the emoji with {{S|B)}} for this case.

Duckboycool (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 04:08, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Sure, I could make it not use the exclamation mark if there's a parameter, but that means you'll have to put in the exclamation mark yourself if you pass text. Doing that anyway.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:50, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Update! You can now specify what punctuation with the second parameter - so to make just the face leave both parameters blank, like so:

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 22:29, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Your bot request

I just wanted to say good luck on your bot request! It is a good idea; hope it gets accepted!
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 08:50, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! I also hope it gets accepted

(nervous)

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:03, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

:P Good luck!

Also, I read your edit summary. Yes, I am still on; but I am nowhere near as active as usual.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 20:29, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

German Numbers

What does it mean that you read German numbers? Ist das wie eins, zwei, drei, vier, fünf etc.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 12:37, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

I can understand numbers in German, but nothing else. So I can count eins, zwei, drei, vier... but I don't speak any more German.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:50, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Na ja... vielleicht koenntest du es lernen!

Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 18:50, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Question

Hey Ken, I was just wondering how to get your own personal sandbox and other "User Generated Content" if that makes any sense?
MClovers (talk | contribs) 19:21, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

You can just create the pages yourself, i.e. if you want to make a sandbox go to User:MClovers/Sandbox (redlink) and click the pencil icon then Create. I have a ton of user subpages (that's what they're called) but making them is the same process.

Oh, and please add new topics at the bottom, not the top. The "Add Topic" option is helpful.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:26, 22 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!

MClovers (talk | contribs) 05:49, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Ken:

I don't know if you saw on WolfCat67's Talk, but my Discord tag is #0063.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 09:26, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

It must have been buried. However, I need your full name - the part both before AND after the #.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:11, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

How do I get a Menu/Sidebar?

I don’t want to have to click “Edit” to see the code; can you comment it please? I only just began coding and I’m not very good at it…
Forested (talk | contribs) 12:26, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

<div class="mw-collapsible" id="mw-customcollapsible-sidebar" title="Credit to GlassGalaxy for inspiration for this sidebar" style="background-color:#fff;padding:2.5px 2.5px 0 0;box-shadow:0 0 5px blue;z-index:10;color:blue;font-family:Courier New, monospace;position:fixed;left:0px;bottom:0px;border:1px solid blue;border-radius:0px 7.5px 7.5px 0px;"><div style="text-align:center;font-size:140%;border-bottom:1px solid blue">[[File:Kenny2scratch logo.jpg|20px|link=User:Kenny2scratch]][[User:Kenny2scratch|<span  style="color:blue;text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold">kenny2scratch</span>]]</div><div style="border-bottom:1px dotted blue">[[File:Speech bubble.png|20px|link=User talk:Kenny2scratch]][[User talk:Kenny2scratch|<span  style="color:blue">My talk</span>]]</div><div class="plainlinks" style="border-bottom:1px dotted blue">[[File:Scratch icon.png|20px|link=]][//scratch.mit.edu/users/kenny2scratch <span style="color:blue">My projects</span>]</div><div style="border-bottom:1px dotted blue">[[File:Information.png|20px|link=User:Kenny2scratch/Project Guides]][[User:Kenny2scratch/Project Guides|<span  style="color:blue">Project Guides</span>]]</div><div style="border-bottom:1px dotted blue">[[File:Hamburger.png|20px|link=User:Kenny2scratch/Sidebar]][[User:Kenny2scratch/Sidebar|<span  style="color:blue">My sidebar</span>]]</div><div style="border-bottom:1px dotted blue">[[File:Sandbox.png|20px|link=User:Kenny2scratch/Sandbox]][[User:Kenny2scratch/Sandbox|<span  style="color:blue">My sandbox</span>]]</div><div style="border-bottom:1px dotted blue">[[File:Kenny2scratch logo.jpg|20px|link=User:Kenny2scratch/Directory]][[User:Kenny2scratch/Directory|<span  style="color:blue">My userspace</span>]]</div><div style="border-bottom:1px dotted blue">[[File:Question mark.png|20px|link=User:Kenny2scratch/Status]][[User:Kenny2scratch/Status|<span  style="color:blue">My status</span>]]</div><div style="text-align:center;font-size:65%;border-bottom:1px dotted blue">[[Special:EditCount/Kenny2scratch|<span  style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline">'''13,114''' edits</span>]] since <u>26/1/2017</u></div><div style="text-align:center;font-size:65%;cursor:pointer" class="mw-customtoggle-sidebar">Collapse</div></div><div style="font-family:Courier New, monospace;color:blue;position:fixed;left:0;bottom:0;cursor:pointer;transform:scale(1.5, 1.5);border-top:2px solid blue;border-right:2px solid blue;border-radius:0 7.5px 0 0" class="mw-customtoggle-sidebar">+</div>

Enjoy! You'll have to change the usernames and styles to fit your preference, but I think you can do it.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:57, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

April Fools

Can I get a April fools page? xD
-Vuton- (talk | contribs) 13:12, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

If you want to make an April Fools version of a page, just create it! Make sure to make it at [[Scratch Wiki:April Fools/<your AF page title>]]. You'll want to read the guidelines at Scratch Wiki:April Fools before doing so - but have fun!

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:23, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! (btw I left a reply to you, check the recent changes.)

-Vuton- (talk | contribs) 13:26, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that - I replied to you (on WolfCat67's talk right?)

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:27, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Yeah

-Vuton- (talk | contribs) 13:30, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Does that mean I can make- Scratch Wiki:April Fools/studios

-Vuton- (talk | contribs) 13:53, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

If you intend to make an AF version of Studio, I'd suggest you make Scratch Wiki:April Fools/Studio - just make sure to make the titles match

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:57, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Oh - it seems like that already exists. You might want to add info to that instead.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:59, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

My Guess

I have thoroughly examined the details I have, and I think I know who in this picture you are. I believe that you are in the center, with 10 people to the right of you, and 8 people to the left of you. (From the perspective of the camera.) I'm interested to see if I am right. I also just wanted to mention that I am interested in the Discord chat, and that I am duckboycool#7682 in case you didn't see my message on WolfCat's talk page. Thanks!
Duckboycool (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 15:34, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Ooh, I already had a go at this. I know it!
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 17:32, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm male... the person you specified is definitely not me

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:53, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

From the camera's perspective. So what you see in the picture, not the left and right of the people in it. Although, I already know that this guess is wrong since I saw the other guesses. :P

Duckboycool (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 05:36, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

In python, that does the operator % do?

^^

I don't get it. Thanks for your help in advance!
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 18:59, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

I am not Ken, and I do not know python (two good starts :P), but I believe that I can answer this question. The % is the modulus operator, and it basically take's remainders. I have written extensively on this subject on my website. ;)

Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 19:56, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Yeah - % is the modulus operator - it takes the integer division remainder of the two numbers you pass. For example, 7 % 2 is 1, and 8 % 4 is 0. Normally, you would probably use it for checking if one number is evenly divisible by the other, i.e. if a % b == 0: do stuff.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 00:59, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Ah, ok. Thanks! I get that bit. One thing though: I was using https://www.learnpython.org/ and it says this about String formatting:

"Python uses C-style string formatting to create new, formatted strings. The "%" operator is used to format a set of variables enclosed in a "tuple" (a fixed size list), together with a format string, which contains normal text together with "argument specifiers", special symbols like "%s" and "%d"."

I don't get it.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 10:23, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Mmph. I don’t really like that, but here’s an explanation:

Inside a string, you put a % and then a special letter that says how you want to format this string - then after the string you add a % and the formatters.

Put in an example:

print "Hello %s" % "World!"

Produces

Hello World!

The important part, however, is what comes after the % in the string - %s puts it in as a string ("%s" % "a" = "a"), %r puts it in as a raw string ("%r" % "a" = "'a'"), %f puts in a formatted float ("%.2f" % 0.1357 = "0.14")... there are many things you can do with string formatting, so you’ll probably want to take a look at documentation on the different things you can do for more info.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:32, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for adding me to the S:Guidelines Page

^
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 16:58, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

BTW Does anyone know what happened to customhacker?

Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 16:59, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

lol this is obviously before your discord message to me.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 17:40, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Those are faster.

Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 02:42, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

I have no idea what happened to customhacker. (For about the past month, I have not been in places with Wi-FI where I can use Scratch)

Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 14:34, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Aha! I see :) well glad you’re back!

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:35, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Glad you're back, customhacker!

WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 22:04, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

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