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== Reply-link.js ==
  
== Creating A Professional-Looking User Page ==
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Salutations,
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Could you help me with something, i am trying to make a reply-link javascript file, kind of the same as  [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Enterprisey/reply-link.js Enterprisey's reply-link]
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I cant think how to change it so it works here,
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many thanks,{{User:JJBullet/Siggy2}} 14:21, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
  
Hello Kenny2scratch,
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== Moving plural page titles to singular ==
  
I was looking at your user page, and I thought it looked very professional. I was wondering if you could give me any tips or suggestions about how to organize my user page, or if you could let me know another place where I can find that information. I'm also curious about how to sign my username. I tried using the "Sign your username" wiki markup code, but I couldn't figure out how to use it.
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The last time we discussed about this topic was in early February, and it's already late April now – almost 3 months. It is very confusing to have both singular and plural pages, and it makes it harder for editors as well. <nowiki>[[Block]]s is the same as [[Block|Blocks]], but there is no shortcut for [[Blocks|Block]]. </nowiki>Shold we move all the pages, or can we just leave them and work with it? {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 21:34, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
  
I'm editing this message to ask another question. I'm really new to the Scratch Wiki (As you probably know) and I saw that there was a bullet point on your talk page that said: "For reference, revision 231783 was done by AdeptMind on 17/07/2019" I'm worried I accidentally edited your page. If you could let me know how this works, and if I'm doing it right, that would be great! Thanks, and sorry for all of the questions!
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hello random user that you probably didnt know that I exist saying hello cause theyre as bored as heck
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<scratchsig>Fashionqueen9</scratchsig> 21:22, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
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:lol hi, how you doin'?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:28, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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::I didn't know anyone existed, to be honest. <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 09:00, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::Oh god lol <scratchsig>Fashionqueen9</scratchsig> 22:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::Yo remember to [[S:INDENT|indent]] replies :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:12, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  
-AdeptMind
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== About a broken link it's in your main page ==
:Hi! Did you read the [[S:WELCOME|Welcome tutorial]]? One of the things it covers is how to use talk pages properly. In advance, though, you sign your name with four tildas (four of these: ~) at the end of the last line of your message.
 
:I built up my userpage over months and eventually years. Under the surface, it's actually a hideous mess of styling and failed experiments (though I have attempted to refactor it before). I encourage you to learn some stuff about HTML, then try to recreate (or approximate, I wouldn't recommend going for a complete or accurate reformation) my userpage ''without'' looking at the source code; once you have done that, you can start thinking about how you want your page to look at a higher level without having to worry about the execution of the concept. TL, DR: Learn about HTML and figure things out - it's your page and I can't tell you how to make it.
 
:The "revision NUM was done by NAME on DD/MM/YYYY" is just something I have in there for fun - it uses the [[Help:Magic words|magic words]] REVISIONID, REVISIONUSER, REVISIONDAY, REVISIONMONTH, and REVISIONYEAR, all of which you can look up in the linked page. Also, talk pages are meant to be edited by others - it is only userpages where you are not allowed to edit others'.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 22:40, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
 
  
Thanks for all the help! I don't currently have time to learn HTML, but I'm going to be taking a programming class in school next year, so hopefully that will cover HTML, or at least help me learn fundamental skills that will help with HTML.
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See: [[User:Kenny2scratch#cite_ref-6]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 16:52, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  
<scratchsig>AdeptMind</scratchsig> 15:44, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
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== 0-0 Sidebar ==
  
Oh, I thought signing your username literally meant ''signing'' it XD. I was confused about if it would ask me to use my mouse to sign my name for each message, or if there was a place I could create a pre-made signature for each message, but now I know that's not what it means. Thanks!
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That sidebar is beautiful! How the chicken-horse did you make that?! I didn't know you could do that XD <scratchsig>Mohie</scratchsig> 15:49, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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:lol thanks, I don't really know how to explain it but in short the <code>&lt;div></code> that wraps the whole sidebar has the CSS attributes <code>position: fixed; left: 0; bottom: 0;</code> set on it so that it stays stuck to the left and bottom of the screen. I found the technique from {{user|GlassGalaxy|name}} whose userpage I was browsing for some reason.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:28, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
  
<scratchsig>AdeptMind</scratchsig> 15:49, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
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== Scratch Wiki Adventure ==
: Hi! I don't want to interrupt but when posting we always indent one more than the other person (using <code>:</code>), and use {{t|outdent}} after 6 or 7 indents!
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Hi. [[Scratch Wiki:Scratch Wiki Adventure]] is finished finally, also I added a new button style for it. Can you download [[mw:Extension:GuidedTour|MediaWiki extension]] for the project? Thanks!{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 13:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
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:It's still waiting but Scratch Wiki Adventure is finished as final. Can someone from admins download MediaWiki extension to Wiki? As a reference, I'm added [[Special: Version|that link to here.]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 17:30, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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::I'm so sorry about post that again, but can you run MediaWiki extension in Wiki?(because I posted two weeks ago and that's still waiting). You can also take a look to the project's talk page.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::I saw your second message in this topic ("It's still waiting") and I actually did attempt to install the extension then; however, I ran into some problems, because our MW version is no longer supported by the latest release of the GuidedTour extension, nor by its dependency EventLogging. Additionally, EventLogging requires a server of its own to be running, so I need to figure that out too, which is hard while I'm also studying for exams. Now, however, I don't have exams for another week, so I can devote more energy to it, which I'll start doing today. {{doing}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:59, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::OK, thanks for informing me. I didn't know that. I'm sorry if I disturbed you.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 12:37, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Nah, sorry for not saying anything sooner. Not disturbed - I have to deliberately go on to the Wiki to check it, so if anyone was disturbing me it was myself :P{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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Okay, I think I've successfully installed it (<code>?tour=test</code> worked). Let me know if you need anything more from me. Some tips:
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* Use <code>?uselang=qqx</code> to find out where the MediaWiki: pages that control the text of things are.
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* Inspect Element is your friend.
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* Since the version I've installed is from [https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-GuidedTour/tree/REL1_28 October 2016], make sure to switch to versions of documentation at or before then when reading it
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Good luck!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:40, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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:GuidedTour is working for me. Thanks for all of your helps.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:00, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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:I read cheatsheet of GuidedTour again, and I need to create a page in MediaWiki: prefix, right? A note to myself: First, I must create GuidedTour in my Sandbox with definition of text variables, then post it to Community Portal.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:25, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  
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== Question on posting ==
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Hello! I was wondering how to make an individual post. I currently want to make a tutorial on how to calculate FPS in animations. However, I am having trouble finding where you post. Thank you for your time!
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<scratchsig>TinkerGamez</scratchsig> 19:30, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
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:Hello, and welcome to the Scratch Wiki! I'm not Ken, but I can answer your question. Assuming that what you mean by "posting" is creating a page, you can do so [[Scratch Wiki:Create an article|here]]. Please read that page before you do so, though, and ensure that your page follows the [[Scratch Wiki:New Page Policies|New Page Policies]]. Also, please don't create your page if it has very little or no content when you begin; pages like that may be deleted. It may be a good idea to draft in [[S:USERSPACE|userspace]] beforehand. Good luck, and thank you for being so enthusiastic about editing the wiki! We're excited to see your contributions! {{e|:)}} <br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 23:18, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
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== The mystery of the [[Help:Welcome]] tutorials ==
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Hi Ken, I hope you're doing well. I was going through the [[Help:Welcome]] tutorials and improving whatever I saw that needed to be improved. While I was doing this, I noticed something odd. These pages reminded me of Wikipedia and its aspects. For example, all of the headings were written in ''sentence case,'' not ''title case'' (I've fixed them now). Now, yes, yes, I know that this isn't enough to "remind me of Wikipedia," but here's another example: previously, the examples on [[Help:Welcome/4]] didn't use scratchsig (look in the recent page history).
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So I did some investigation, and it turns out my suspicion was at least semi-correct. If you look at [[Wikipedia:Help:Introduction to talk pages/4]], it uses almost the exact same example as [[Help:Welcome/4]]. Now, when I first saw this, I had plagiarism concerns; even though it's just a tutorial, I think copying and not attributing Wikipedia may be a problem (keep in mind, I am not a lawyer, nor an expert in Wikipedia's legal policies! This was just my suspicion). I was thinking about what I should do about this, and thinking things like "would a post on the Community Portal voicing my concerns be sufficient?".
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So I did some more investigation, but this time it was in the form of copying some text from the [[Help:Welcome]] tutorials to my clipboard and doing a web search. Turns out, a lot of other wikis use some of the ''exact same wording'' as our tutorials, but replacing our wiki-specific stuff with their wiki-specific stuff. This kind of relieved my concerns about plagiarism, as now I thought it might be a MediaWiki thing or something like that.
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But the problem is, these tutorial pages were not created when the Scratch Wiki began{{-}}they were created by a Wikian named {{user|Mrsrec|name}} in January 2014. Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything in the early page histories hinting at where that user got the text from.
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Anyway, I'm sorry for that very long buildup, but my question for you is: do you know anything about these pages, and where they originally came from? I know that you weren't on the wiki in January 2014 (and I wasn't either; I joined in October 2014), but you certainly know a lot more about MediaWiki and the technical side of things than I do. As I said, I thought that this could be something that is provided by MediaWiki as a sort of "boilerplate tutorial."
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In the beginning of this "mini-investigation," I had legitimate concerns, but not as much anymore (for the reasons I mentioned above). If you don't know anything about this, that's fine too. I'm sorry for taking up your time. {{e|:P}} Also, I hope I'm not missing something and the answer is really obvious. Then I would have just wasted my time. {{e|:P}}
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Also, I didn't post this on the Community Portal because I felt it was not related enough to daily Scratch Wiki matters to post it there. (However, if someone other than Ken reads this, feel free to reply!)
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Best regards, <br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 04:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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:Oh, by the way, if you don't want to read something this long or don't care to look into it or reply, that's fine too. {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 05:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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::As far as I know there isn't a boilerplate tutorial in MediaWiki, so our welcome tutorials are probably modified from Wikipedia. If so, that's not plagiarism, it's legitimate adaptation, because Wikipedia, and we, are under CC BY-SA. It's disturbing to me that Mrsrec created the tutorials, though, because there's a bad history with that one. Still, legally it's 100% fine.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:12, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::I think like Ken. This wiki is applying one of the CC BY-SA licenses, so someone can apply every CC BY-SA licenses(they are compatible with all of CC BY-SA licenses). Nobody don't need supply it for every use, [https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/License_Versions#Detailed_attribution_comparison_chart that's some kind of "their choices".] Legally, there isn't a problem now, but if Wikipedia warns us - however, that's nearly impossible, internet is a huge world - we must add a notice.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 09:35, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::Interesting. Thanks for replying. I still find it odd that other non-Wikipedia wikis use the same tutorials, though. {{e|:P}} I thought you had to attribute Wikipedia though?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 12:48, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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*First answer: Yes, sort of.
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*Second answer: No, because of Wikipedia's general rules, you don't need mention as I know. Also, I said in OP, nobody wants to warn every wikis individually.
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*Third answer: There is international laws like fair use or Berne Convention, but I don't think they are working fully compatible. Also, if you take a look Wikipedia's policies, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Copyrights|they allow copy-paste to another place.]]
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In conclusion: Wikipedia's legal status isn't clear so much because they're using multiple licenses+their own rules+includes anonymous and problematic articles/edits. Some of countries banned Wikipedia in the past because of that. As final, I think there isn't a problem for now - without if they change the rules, but I don't think so - We can use without mentioning Wikipedia for now. For example, Scratch Wiki is using Wikipedia with interwiki link.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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:I'm not sure you're right about "you don't need mention as I know," at least according to the "Attribution" section of [[Wikipedia:WP:Copyrights#Reusers' rights and obligations]].
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:However, again, I'm not sure there is a problem, because many wikis use the same tutorials as us. I thought it could be something built-in to MediaWiki, but Ken doesn't think so. Perhaps it's something like that, but more subtle? Like, some pre-written tutorials that anyone can use for their wiki and {{user|Mrsrec|name}} just found? I'm really not sure, though I'm not as worried anymore about copyright (as I said in my original post).
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:<small>Also, I am dedicated to keeping this emoji as the only emoji that is used in this conversation: {{e|:P}}</small><br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:16, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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::Alright, Ken and ahmetlii, look at this: [[Help:Tracking Changes]]
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::Now compare it to this: [[Wikipedia:MW:Help:Tracking changes]]
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::I guess we can confirm that ''this'' was a pre-written page for wikis based on MediaWiki now (and look! it's in the public domain, so no attribution is necessary), though I'm still not sure about the [[Help:Welcome]] tutorials.
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::This helps me, though, because now I know of this: [[Wikipedia:MW:Project:PD help]]
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::So there ''are'' sets of tutorials (in the public domain) provided by MediaWiki for new wikis{{-}} so I was partially correct. Again, I'm still not sure about the [[Help:Welcome]] tutorials specifically, though. Did either of you know about this? {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:46, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::Yes, I can't see any similar tutorial with [[Help:Welcome]].
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:::I know that some of technical articles copied from MediaWiki (and I'm using it for information, MediaWiki has the best resources for Wikitext and server-side PHP-Wiki collaboration). However, lots of MediaWiki articles are created by Wiki system, and you cannot see their histories and cannot edit it (except admins). [[Help:Welcome]] is probably created for helping new users inspired from Wikipedia, like [[Scratch Wiki:Scratch Wiki Adventure]] but I think anybody will not need them '''so much''' in a near future - extensions are developing for Wiki's every years. I think this topic is probably {{done|closed}}.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 21:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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== My new template ==
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Hi Ken, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me what you think of [[User:Bigpuppy/UpDown]], my new template. It was inspired by [[Wikipedia:Template:Skip to top and bottom|this template on Wikipedia]], though I didn't take any code from there.
  
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You don't have to give me feedback, but you've given me feedback on my templates in the past, so maybe you enjoy it! {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 05:15, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:Oh, and also, I already know of the issues with viewing it on vector. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 05:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:Your methods are sound, but what's the idea behind [https://i.gyazo.com/6361b925323de10d07c76cd39f77d4f9.png leaving so much space between it and the side of the page]?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:16, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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::As a second note, [https://i.gyazo.com/470a30749eb84114599dcf8b793e20c8.png up/down buttons isn't working good on mobile.] I think the buttons' place should be at right middle.<span style="color:grey">(I'm talking about mobile phones, tablets, etc. If you look to Ken's screenshot, you will see that it's cropped from a computer.)</span>{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 08:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::Ken, that's so it shows up nice beside [[User:Bigpuppy|my sidebar]]. Maybe I'll add a parameter to change the position. Ahmetlii, ditto. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 14:29, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::Hmm, I just realized that it's not responsive, so it may not show up nice next to my sidebar on some screens (not just mobile screens, but also desktop/laptop computer screens).<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 14:37, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Ahmetlii, I see that you edited your post multiple times — however, I already understood what you meant the first time. As I said, maybe I'll add a parameter to change the position. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 14:45, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Ahmetlii, Ken, it now has parameters and documentation for how to move it wherever you want on the screen. What do you think?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
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Looks like good, but I'm not sure about CSS page documentation; <code>.updown</code> isn't working.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 17:54, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:Really? It's working for me.. Have you done a [[Help:Hard Refresh|hard refresh]]?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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::Hard refresh is hard in mobile and special CSS pages aren't working accurately. If it's working for you, there's not a problem.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:02, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::Ah, okay. (Also, please don't edit my posts, no matter how minor the edit; I put two periods for a reason {{e|;)}})<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  
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== As of writing, you have exactly 12,000 edits! ==
:<small>Haha Ken, betcha to it! {{e|:P}}</small><scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 16:14, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 
::dood I pointed them at the Welcome tutorial - they were meant to learn indentation from that.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:17, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Ah sorry, I just saw that they hadn't indented after you telling them to go to [[Help:Welcome]] (assumed that they read it but didn't read the part for indenting) <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:43, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
 
  
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[[Special:Editcount/Kenny2scratch|Congratulations!]] {{e|tenmil}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:59, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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:{{e|tenmil}} I realized that this record won't be breakable for another five years... {{e|O_O}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:08, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Making a couple edits to blow me past it... 11000 and 12000 now recorded! Yay me {{e|:D}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:20, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  
So, about the grammar on the "need edited/ing", I've had issues with this before, when my friend told me it was wrong. I guess where I'm from the the "to be" is implied, e.g. "the dog needs fed" really means "the dog needs to be fed". My friend said it wasn't implied (I said something like "need punished"), so I was like "Haven't your parents ever said "the dog needs fed?" And some of my friends agreed with me, and she disagreed. I guess when it comes to talking, in casual conversation, it's implied to most people, but on the Wiki I should be more careful :P Plus, I guess you interpreted it as what I meant was "ing", but I saw that and was like "What? That isn't what I meant." If I had realized that I would have changed it to "need to be repositioned".
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== [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Logging server faults]] ==
  
Just felt the need to note this.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 23:43, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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I realize that this is the fourth topic in a row I've posted on this page, and no one else has posted one in-between, but...
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:Regardless, in standard English grammar, the only correct forms are "the dog needs ''to be fed''" and "the dog needs ''feeding''". "The dog needs ''fed''" is simply invalid.
 
:But I need to know what the context is.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:42, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 
::Haha sorry, I meant the latest revision of [[Default Value|this]]
 
::I didn't mean you were wrong to correct me, I knew that it was wrong once I saw your edit. I just felt like saying something about it since I've had an issue with it in the past. I know that it's wrong, it's just that I would have corrected it ''differently'', and I thought it was kind of funny.
 
::I guess I just have a strange sense of humor.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 18:14, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Ahh, it is all so clear now.
 
:::Interesting. I actually considered both corrections, but I went with the ed->ing change because a) I thought that that was what you meant to say and b) ed->ing made for a shorter sentence than ed->to be ed.
 
:::You do have a strange sense of humor :Kappa: but I only say that because I find it intriguing rather than funny :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 18:42, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 
::::I had to look up what kappa was XD{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 22:36, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== How did you make the line on top of your status? ==
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What do you think about having a separate page for [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Logging server faults]]? I've collapsed it so it takes up less space, but that won't help the CP loading time, and since it's a {{not done|never done}} topic, it will only get larger. Multiple people have voiced their support for a separate page there too. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Thanks {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 00:10, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
  
How did you make the line on top of your status in your header? I'm just wondering because I want to make one in my header ([[User:Ajsya/Header]]). To add some other text under.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 17:05, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
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:You can view the source of my header to find out how, but in short I do it with a bottom border on a div. (Look up anything you don't know.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:57, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
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Hello! I was confused where in [[S:USERSPACE]] it says "Even if it is your own page, you are not allowed to edit the messages of other users or remove them unless removing the entire thread or a disrespectful message". Does "thread" refer to a topic or the whole user talkpage? For convenience, please reply at <span class="plainlinks">https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/User_talk:Garnetluvcookie#C2.A0Awaiting_response:_Special:Diff.2F252306</span> if another EEW or admin hasn't replied yet. Thank you! <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 21:35, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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:{{done|Resolved}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:04, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  
== Did I make the right decision? ==
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Hey, could you please look at [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Special:ConfirmAccounts/authors&acrid=5547&wpShowRejects=1 this request]? I was ''really, really, really, really'' hard-pressed on this one, and I feel bad rejecting it as they had all the right parts, but were not specific enough and did not use complete sentences. Would you mind looking at it, and if you think differently than I do, possibly change it (as I trust your opinion more than mine)? Again, it was really hard for me to make this decision. Thanks (I hope it's okay that I'm posting this on your talk page). {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:49, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
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Sorry if you're busy but would you mind checking [[S:CPSYS]] if you have time? Thanks {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:01, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
:Heh, I saw that one and left it for later because it was hard for me as well. It's easier to justify a decision in retrospect than it is before making it, so thank you for making that decision :)
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:{{done}}, thanks for bringing it to my attention and soz for neglecting it for so long lol{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:04, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Thank you! Sorry for bothering you.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:07, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
:# It's not clear enough what each flaw is correcting (e.g. "the", but what was the original spelling?)
 
:# (Incorrectly) Linking to the [[Vector Graphics]] page doesn't tell us the intent - did they mean to add some info from that page? or add a link to that page? or...?
 
:And in general as you said it wasn't specific enough and didn't use complete sentences.
 
:(Posting this on my talk is fine since you don't have any other method of contacting me. *hint hint*){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 00:51, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 
::Yes, I see. Thank you. {{e|:)}} (About the text in the parentheses: even though the Wiki is seperate from Scratch, it is still connected, so, I still don't think having a real-time wiki talk is okay unless we contacted the Scratch Team about it. {{e|:P}})<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:48, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Hi! ==
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== Is this allowed? ==
  
I live in Hong Kong too and am horrified of the situations (Yuen Long Station fight etc.)
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Could you check out the discussion [[User talk:Bigpuppy#Is this allowed?|here]] please (and respond over there)? Thanks! {{e|:)}} <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 22:56, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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:{{done|Responded}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:55, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
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::{{done|Thank you!}}<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 03:21, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
  
I want to ask you how to do user page cutoffs (e.g. USER:Kenny2Scratch/something).
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== Revdel ==
  
Thanks!
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Can you please revdel [[Special:Diff/240183]] (and its summary) and [[Special:Diff/240737]] per [[post:4224472|personal information concerns]]?<br/>
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<small>I hope I didn't mess up the automatic curator announcements by removing it from the actual page, but judging by [[Talk:Curator (front page)/List of Curators#regarding -TheGreenNinja-'s shift]], I think it's okay since I just edited the footnote (not the actual list).</small><br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 14:58, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
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:Actually, I now realize that to fully remove it from the page, you would have to revdel all the revisions from [[Special:Diff/240183]] to [[Special:Diff/252717]]. I'm not sure how major the concerns are, but I think that's what it would require. {{e|:)}}
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:<small>Za-Chary just asked someone to ''remove'' it from the page, but I think personal information concerns warrant RevisionDelete.</small><br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:24, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
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::{{done}} - I hid the text of most in between and also hid the summary of the one that introduced the old name (since the name is included in the update summary){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:10, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::Thanks! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:31, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  
<scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 12:06, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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== my Signature ==
:They're called ''subpages'', and you create them by literally just visiting them - type User:Congyingzhou/subpagename into the address bar where a page title would go and then choose "create" from the pencil menu.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 23:08, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Hello ==
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Pretty much over my whole time on the wiki, my signature is misbehaving. It is probably my error but I was wondering if you know why it is
Is there a extended cheatsheet or something like it? <scratchsig>AFNNetworkK12</scratchsig> 04:04, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
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<onlyinclude>
:What sort of cheatsheet? The [[Help:Contents|help pages]] give more detail but the cheatsheet is ''the'' cheatsheet.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:13, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
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* Aligning itself to the left all the time
::I guess the cheatsheet with the template and bold stuff <scratchsig>AFNNetworkK12</scratchsig> 04:15, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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* Reverted back to the default
:::If you're just looking for it, [[S:CHEAT|here it is]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:22, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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* Doesn't show the timestamp sometimes
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</onlyinclude>
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<scratchsig>ContourLines</scratchsig> 09:13, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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:Did you use [[Special:Preferences]] for the custom signature? If not, please copy-paste <code><nowiki>{{User:ContourLines/Signature}}</nowiki></code> to "New signature" section, then click "Treat signature as wikitext".{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 09:18, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Yes, I did all of that. It was mostly because of wikimarkup errors and where I was siging my posts{{User:ContourLines/Signature}} 18:08, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
  
==Question==
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== Can this be moved to project space? ==
Uh I see you're worried about Hong Kong's future now. Also, how do you create the sidebar? <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 06:46, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
 
: Er, hello? <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 12:12, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
 
::Sorry, missed this! My sidebar can be seen [[User:Kenny2scratch/Sidebar|here]] - I know it's a mess but I don't know how to explain it other than by showing it. Feel free to click edit but don't save.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:20, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 
::: Thanks so much! <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 05:02, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Signature Change  ==
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[[User:Bigpuppy/Discussion Invitation System]]
  
You changed my signature background. I could read it. {{User:Scratch-Coding/Signature}} 16:23, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
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I drafted it in my userspace, but now I think it might be ready to be moved to project space. [[User:Bigpuppy/Discussion Invitation System/List|Several people]] have showed their interest for the system by signing up for it. [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Discussion Invitation System|Here]] is the relevant CP discussion. I don't know if you've seen it.
  
:I will add the background back with a lighter shade of green. {{User:Scratch-Coding/Signature}} 16:26, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 23:22, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
::Your signature was unreadable and therefore was not an acceptable signature. I fixed it for you. Nonintrusive backgrounds are fine - go ahead. (Also, I just fixed it again - we require signatures to have a line break at the start. Yours didn't have one. See [[S:GOODSIG]].){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:50, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
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:Also, I'm not sure whether I need approval from a bureaucrat for something like this, but it's good to be safe.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 23:28, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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::(sorry for bothering you again by the way)<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 23:35, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::{{done|Thank you!}} I've de-userified/improved some of the pages to match the move. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:47, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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::::Wait, why a Scratch Wiki Project for this?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:48, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Yeah, isn't it finished? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 02:52, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Argh, I was making my own edit to the page when you came along.
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:::::This totally deserves a SWP! I think the only point of contention is that I guess it could be considered {{done}} rather than {{not done}} as it's currently marked, since there's not too much more to do. You can change that if you want.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:55, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Alright, thanks for clarifying. I'll mark it as {{done}}. Also, I re-added Groko13's message. I'm not sure if you were going to do that.
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::::::<small>Sorry for the edit conflict. I kinda figured that might happen. {{e|:P}}</small><br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:00, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}Can I remove the SWP box from [[Scratch Wiki:Discussion Invitation]]? It's kind of large, and the project is finished. {{e|:)}} Will removing it mess anything up?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:04, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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:I see you added a width parameter; however, I still fail to see how including the template is necessary. Can we at least collapse it? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:14, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Can you please wait until I've responded before noting my changes??? If I hadn't previewed and noticed I had a message, your message would have been gone in an edit conflict.
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::I've made it narrower. Removing won't mess up anything, but I'd really rather keep it, since without the box the SWP is nothing. (Part of the reason for making it a SWP is because we don't have enough of them - it's a neat system that never gets used, so I jumped on the opportunity to use it.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:16, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::Yes, sorry; again, I thought that may happen. I guess I should have taken that as a red flag and just waited instead.
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:::Anyway, can we at least collapse it?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:18, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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::::Boi collapsing isn't the solution to everything. I literally said "without the box the SWP is nothing". I guess I could try to figure out an optional "small" format for the box that puts stuff in a table instead of in rows. That'll take a little more time, though.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:27, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Collapsing the box ≠ not having the box on the page. You could at least ''acknowledge'' my effort to find a compromise. {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:30, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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::::::I want all the information there, without having to interact to get to it. If you're collapsing it, you might as well just use a link to the /project page. I'll work on a small format, but for now my compromise is a narrower box.
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::::::What even is your issue with it? It's just a box - you can read the page perfectly fine.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:33, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}Well, I guess I feel like having the box there still makes the page feel "unfinished" in a way. I don't mean ''literally'' unfinished, of course, but it still feels "unfinished." For example, how would [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests]] (or, an even more major example, [[Scratch Wiki:Guidelines]]) feel if it had that box on it? Yes, it would show the work it took to create those pages, but that's shown by the page history. After a Scratch Wiki Project is done, it becomes part of the Scratch Wiki in a way, and transcends its former status. I feel that the final stage for Scratch Wiki Projects should be either removing or collapsing the SWP box. Especially for a project like this, which didn't become a SWP until it was almost completely finished. In addition, this became a SWP partly because you don't think the system gets used enough, as you said. Is the template really that necessary for a project that didn't even really use the SWP system while it was being created? Does it really make sense to have the template stay on the page for the rest of that page's lifetime (or the wiki's lifetime, assuming the page won't ever get deleted)? {{e|:)}}
  
== Questions cuz im a n00b ==
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Of course, I can see a counter-argument you might mention; we might want to show not just the page as it is today, but what it took to ''get to'' the page as it is today. I still don't think that's a major enough reason, though, because of the following:
  
Hello there! I have seen a lot of people on the Scratch Wiki with custom signuatures and was hoping you could tell me how to do one myself! Do I need a javascript file? or do I need [[User:TheAwesome98/signature|this page here]]? Thanks! <scratchsig>TheAwesome98</scratchsig> 13:15, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
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# You can just look in the page history.
:[[S:GOODSIG]] documents the method you should use for making a custom signature - but keep in mind if you think it's too complicated the default scratchsig is a good fallback :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:28, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
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# If we just collapsed the box, you could just un-collapse it to view it.
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# I still think the con(s) that I have mentioned outweigh the pros of showing the box to everyone who visits the page.
  
== Does Scratch Wiki have a Sandbox? ==
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To summarize: Yes, it is just a box. <s>And it's a box that I just wrote an essay about.</s> However, if we ''do'' use the SWP system for many things, do we really want that box on ''every'' page that has gone through the system? I personally don't think it's necessary. It's like leaving the scaffolding on a building after it's fully-built. I feel that SWPs should go through some sort of "graduating" phase where the box is either removed or collapsed.
  
Hello. I was wondering if the Scratch Wiki has something like Wikipedia's Sandbox whihc is a page for messing around and getting familiar with creating pages!
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It's pretty late in my timezone, so I have to sign off now. However, I hope that through my points above you can understand why I think the box should be either removed or collapsed. Thanks for everything you did to improve the Discussion Invitation System! I hope it can help to speed up the rate at which things get done on the Scratch Wiki. Have a good rest of your day. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:59, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
<scratchsig>ScratchToolBox</scratchsig> 20:53, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
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:Something like [[User:Bigpuppy/Sandbox 3|this]]? Of course, there is probably a way to make it smoother. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:29, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
:[[S:SANDBOX]] {{e|:)}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:25, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
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::I've removed the SWP status from Discussion Invitation but ignored your arguments. Let me quickly mention, though, that the only reason it wasn't a SWP during creation was because I wasn't aware of its existence before it was completed and you just don't seem to care about SWPs at all.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 18:36, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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::: What? When you say you "ignored" my arguments, do you mean you didn't ''read'' them, or just decided not to take them into account? As for the claim that I "... just don't seem to care about SWPs at all", I'm afraid you're mistaken. I [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 101#New page idea: Scratch Wiki:Community Projects|helped come up with the idea for SWPs in the first place]], [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Scratch_Wiki:Scratch_Wiki_Projects&action=history wrote most of the explanation page], and [[Language Tutorials/project|have participated in an SWP myself]]. Just because I didn't choose to make this one idea of mine an SWP doesn't mean I don't care about SWPs. {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:55, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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::::Isn't it funny that you've done so much for SWPs, and yet haven't actually started a single one yourself? Wouldn't this have been a great opportunity for one?
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::::Anyway, I think we're not going to get anywhere with this conversation. The main issue in this topic is resolved. Start a new one if you want to pursue something further. This one is {{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:18, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Wait, before we end this conversation, can you at least answer my question about "ignoring" my arguments please?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:21, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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::::::{{done|Never mind}}, I created a new topic as you asked me to do. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:55, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
  
== Ur Bot ==
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== excs.writeapidenied problem ==
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{{done}}
  
um, how do I compress files, ur bot alerted me <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 12:35, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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<s>When using mw-api-client-develop version, I have been used Scratch Wiki's API params like auth extension, securelogin etc. Probably I exceeded API's query limit, however this is some of weird -
:Go to [https://TinyPNG.com TinyPNG.com] {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:29, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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cannot exceed it, Wiki is giving right up to 500 queries.
  
== Where do you draw the line? ==
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<syntaxhighlight lang="python">
 
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Traceback (most recent call last):
Where do you draw the line for unessesary formating of talk pages. I know a user who's talk page is very anoying and has so much formating to the point that It's ruining the messages, templates, signatures, etc. Where do you draw the line? (I'm not trying to be mean to this specific user or anything){{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 02:33, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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  File "...\mw-api-client-develop\custom python.py", line 22, in <module>
:I'm going to need more context (and better spelling: un<big>n</big>e<big>c</big>es<big>s</big>ary, format<big>t</big>ing, an<big>n</big>oying) than that - I draw the line on a case-by-case basis, and my line may be different from other EWs' lines. If you really don't want to snitch publicly, you can report the latest revision of the talk page concerned (go to history, next to "undo" is "report") and state what you think is excessive, but I think it would be better to just say here.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:27, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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    sandbox.edit(contents, summary)
::Okay thanks{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 16:30, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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  File "...\mw-api-client-develop\mw_api_client\page.py", line 187, in edit
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    result['result'] = self.wiki.post_request(**params)
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  File "...\mw-api-client-develop\mw_api_client\wiki.py", line 225, in post_request
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    return self.request(_post=True, **params)
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  File "...\mw-api-client-develop\mw_api_client\wiki.py", line 153, in request
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    raise getattr(WikiError, error['code'], WikiError)(error['info'])
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mw_api_client.excs.writeapidenied: You're not allowed to edit this wiki through the API</syntaxhighlight>
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{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 11:01, 18 July 2020 (UTC)</s>
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:<s>Also, 404 error:
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<syntaxhighlight lang="python">requests.exceptions.HTTPError: 404 Client Error: Not Found for url: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/api.php%22,%20%22PyUserScript%20version%200.2.1?action=query&meta=siteinfo&format=json</syntaxhighlight></s>
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{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 11:21, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Also, I cannot list as raw for send invitations.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 21:31, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::Regarding the original issue, are you logged in? You can't edit a sandbox if you're not logged in as some user. Use <code>wiki.clientlogin(username, password)</code> to do so if you don't know how to use bot passwords.
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:::I have no idea what you mean by not being able to "list as raw for send invitations".{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:27, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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::::[[wikipedia:en:User:Yapperbot]]. It's working on Go and I'm trying to do it on Python for Feedback Request Service. <!--[[wikipedia:tr:Kullanıcı:İmzalayıcı]], I'm not owner of this bot, it's not open source. -->{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 15:13, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::::If you're planning on making a bot for this wiki, please [[S:BOTREQS|request it first]]! Don't waste effort making it if the idea gets rejected outright.
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:::::With that said, I recommend [https://pypi.org/project/mwparserfromhell/ this library] for parsing wikitext - you can use it to find (in [[S:DILIST]]) all instances of the template <code>/item</code> whose 1st parameter is not <code>ExampleUser</code>, and get usernames, frequencies, and conditions from that.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 17:14, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Thanks for your helps. I'm not thinking develop a bot, just an user-based downloadable extension like AutoWikiBrowser, but only works in terminal. Maybe you saw my fork, but it's still in test. However, I will post to CP for rejection/applicable statements when it's ready.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 21:33, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}
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<s>Looks like it's still problematic. [https://github.com/ahmetlii/PyUserScript Everyone can see and run my code in here]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 15:29, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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:[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Tcspqvnlstfztqw2 It's more problematic than I think.]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:41, 20 July 2020 (UTC)</s>
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Never mind, it's done. Thanks for your helps.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:50, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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:For shame, I didn't help you with this so that you could break guidelines! Please [[S:BOTREQS|request a bot account]] for your purpose, or contact {{user|jvvg}} with your idea to see if it can be incorporated into WikiMonitor. You are only allowed to do a test implementation ''after'' the idea has already been approved.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:46, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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::I'm sorry about that. I haven't any purpose/plan for break the Guidelines! Thanks again for warning.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 08:46, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
  
== Violations of Scratchers' Privacy ==
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== A new topic ==
  
Hi! As you know, when a user submits an account request, they input their email. There is no problem with that. However, the problem I have is that those emails show in the account request queue. This feels like a violation of Scratchers' privacy, especially as Experienced Wikians are just normal Scratchers like them. Of course we'll never ''use'' their email addresses for anything non-Scratch Wiki-related, but that's exactly my point. We don't ''need'' to see their email addresses. All emails are handled by the system. Therefore, I don't see why we need to be able to see their emails. It's fine if you can't/don't have time to/don't think it's necessary, but I was wondering, if it isn't too hard too, if you could remove "email" from what we see in the request queue. Again, it's okay if you can't or have other opinions, but I'm just telling you mine. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:30, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, Ken! I hope you're having a nice day. You said the old conversation is done, so I've created this new topic to facilitate new discussion.
:I agree with this.  {{User:Smileycreations15/sig}} 16:33, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::That's not so possible since CA relies on emails and we rely on a bold confirmed symbol, but I can try and wing it if someone sends over a copy of the modified CA.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 16:41, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:::That makes since.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 18:22, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::::(*sense)
 
::::Actually, though the English wiki procedure ignores the emails and only requires their confirmation, the Test wiki actually uses emails for when the request is held. Additionally, "Experienced Wikians are just normal Scratchers like them" is not entirely true - on the main site, sure, there is no higher rank than Scratcher besides the Team, but on the Wiki you have been elected to be trusted with this information and, in the rare cases when it's necessary, use it. Besides that, showing the email can help with reviewing the request in the first place - if the email looks like a student email (which frequently can't receive external mail) or looks fake, EWs can then refer the case to a bureaucrat; and that can't be done automatically by the system.
 
::::As to the whole "privacy" thing, we make it clear that we collect emails, and it would be foolish not to expect them to be seen. We also cleared our email collection (and viewing) with the ST, during both the transfers to wiki.scratch.mit.edu and to the current domain.
 
::::All in all, removing emails is more trouble than it's worth, and worth more than its trouble.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:47, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Hello! ==
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When you have time, could you please address the following questions?
  
Hello, how are you? {{User:JJBullet/Siggy2}} 09:50, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
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* When you say you "ignored" my arguments, do you mean you didn't read them, or just decided not to take them into account?
:Hi, doing well, mostly - stressed from being in 11th grade, but not in all too bad a way.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:59, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
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* Speaking of my arguments, do you agree with them? Do you disagree? Why?
::Good to hear, im at college now, {{User:JJBullet/Siggy2}} 19:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
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* What do you think of [[User:Bigpuppy/Sandbox 3|this]] idea of collapsing the SWP boxes?
:::Cool! Whatcha taking?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:56, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Catering & Hospitality!{{User:JJBullet/Siggy2}} 17:08, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Planning to be a hotel worker? :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:23, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}Sort of, im planning on running a restaurant when im older.{{User:JJBullet/Siggy2}} 15:06, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:Oh, cool! Liking it so far?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:59, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::Yea, it's amazing, thanks for asking.{{User:JJBullet/Siggy2}} 14:54, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Your siggy reminder ==
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Take as much time as you need; although I would appreciate a response. {{e|:)}}
First off, I'd like to say thanks for that, it has saved me countless times :')
 
Second, this is just something that I came to point out which I just now happened to realize. It says "tildas" instead of "tildes". I know it's a tiny error but it bothers me :P (I will fix it on my page if I can figure out how).
 
Third, how on earth do you play Minecraft and never play survival.
 
And *inhales* fourth, your name tester thing doesn't say whether "K2s" is okay or not. It has K2S as ok and k2s as not, but since K2s is the case of your name, is it okay?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 23:32, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
 
:I've always spelled it tildas even though I do know it's not the more common spelling - so consider this my minor attempt at language reform :)
 
:Minecraft and never survival: easy, just always creative! I'm sort of a redstone geek and most recently I've tried (and failed) twice to build a 74181 ALU with redstone. (First attempt, 1+1 = 6. Second attempt, 1+1 = 4.)
 
:K2s is not OK. K2S is OK. Acronyms are all caps.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:08, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
 
::1. No reply was made
 
::2. I tried looking it up before I made that post to be sure I wasn't wrong about the misspelling. Then again, the internet doesn't know everything XD
 
::3. That makes me cringe XD No problem with using creative but never survival?! It's sometimes more fun to make contraptions (you probably already know but redstone exists in survival XD) in survival, because it's not just all laid out for you. <small>I also have no idea what a 74181 ALU is. Here I go to Google...</small>
 
::4. Makes sense :P{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 00:24, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Regarding tilda/tilde, I'm not saying you're wrong - in fact, I'm admitting that I'm wrong, but I'm using my spelling regardless because I feel it's better spelled that way (I certainly pronounce it like "tilda" and not "tilde") and if I use it enough other people might start following my example and it'll become an alternate spelling rather than an incorrect spelling.
 
:::Regarding Minecraft, let me clarify: I have played in survival mode before, just not an actual survival world. (In fact, I've played in every gamemode.) I know full well that nothing that exists in creative doesn't exist in other modes. :) (A 74181 ALU is one of the original models for the part of a CPU that actually does the calculation. It had two 4-bit number inputs, one 4-bit opcode input, and one 4-bit result output, as well as a few more in/out bits for miscellaneous behavior. It's the simplest ALU model that was actually used commercially, but even then [and even with numbers up to a max of 16!] it's really complicated and I have yet to get it right.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:24, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Back to the tilde/tilda thing again, it kind of reminds me of that book Frindle. But I understand now :P
 
::::And ohh, okay. Except for some blocks don't/can't ever exist in survival without the world being in creative/using cheats first, like command blocks.
 
::::No need to explain anymore but that whole ALU thing went over my head XD{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 17:08, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Problem with a file upload ==
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Have a nice rest of your day.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:54, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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:Ok.
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:* I didn't read them. I found your tone courteous enough to not be rude, but only barely so. No matter your intention, that's what I received.
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:* Some responses:
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:** I find your examples of Admin Requests and the Wiki Guidelines invalid. Admin Requests is a subset of the CP, and has also never been really "worked on", and the Guidelines are documentation, not a project in any sense of the word; whereas even after the Language Tutorials are complete it's nice to record that "organized work was done here", unlike usual page history. You might make the 'never been really "worked on"' point about DI - and you'll notice that it's no longer a SWP.
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:** Once a project, always a project. The box does not go away after project completion. However, the idea of collapsing it to just a title (as I describe below) appeals to me æsthetically. Play around with the template in a sandbox.
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:** Nice simile with the scaffolding :)
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:* Since that's hack, it understandably looks terrible. A better solution would probably be to put the collapse link in the box header, and collapse to just the header. Incomplete projects (<code><nowiki>|status=<anything but {{done}}></nowiki></code>) shall be uncollapsed by default, completed ones (<code><nowiki>|status={{done}}</nowiki></code>) collapsed. Copy the template code (minus category) to your sandbox and figure out a way to do that.
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:Sorry for being so curt. I had physical training but then also pulled a near all-nighter trying to figure out account request email issues, and today I had to wake up for summer class. Exertion + 18 hours of wakefulness followed by 4 hours of sleep takes a toll.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:07, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Thank you for your prompt response! Although my message was not something that needed a prompt response (as I said in my original message, "take as much time as you need"), I certainly appreciate it. {{e|:)}}
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::* I apologize if you felt I was rude, or next to rude. I think I may have felt that you were not acknowledging my efforts to find a compromise, so that may have translated into rudeness. Again, I apologize and hope you can forgive me.
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::* Some responses to your responses:
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::** I see what you mean with Admin Requests, though I disagree about the wiki guidelines. [[Scratch Wiki:Scratch Wiki Projects]] is pretty all-inclusive with the definition of a Scratch Wiki Project: ''"A Scratch Wiki Project (SWP) is a project on the wiki that one or more people work on. This could be an article in the mainspace, a [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal|Community Portal]] discussion that has something to work on, or anything else that would fit."'' In my opinion, documentation like the wiki guidelines counts. An SWP could be anything from the wiki guidelines (if SWPs had existed back then) to an article about the [[Stage]]. Also, I think that it ''is'' necessary to report that "organized work was done here", but it should not be immediately visible to the end user unless they are interested. Since you mentioned the Language Tutorials, I'll use them as an example: The end user might not care about ''how'' they were made; they just want to learn some Python. If the end user ''does'' care about how they were made, well, there's a "Page History" button for that. If a user is interested enough with how the page was made to find out about the Page History (assuming they didn't know about it before) and then look at it, I think they would be investigative enough to figure out that it was part of an SWP. From there, they could see the "organized work" that was done.
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::** See above; I disagree that it ''should'' stay. I think that collapsing it might be a good compromise, though.
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::** Thanks.
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::* I'll work on it.
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::I understand. I saw the test account request you sent through, though I didn't know that it was that big of an issue that you were solving.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 14:10, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::I was only prompt because you caught me waking up :)
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:::I've edited the SWP template. How does this look to you, especially on the DI page?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:34, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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::::It [[User:Bigpuppy/Sandbox 4|looks good]]!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:51, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Glad you approve! I think we're both satisfied here then?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:20, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Yes. *shakes hand through internet* Again, I apologize if you felt I was rude at any point during either conversation. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:14, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
  
<scratchsig>Beamy68</scratchsig> 01:47, 12 October 2019 (UTC) <big>I can't upload an image to my user page, it just comes up with an error:</big>
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== New Skin ==
  
<small>" '''The action you are attempting was automatically blocked. Please read the message below for details on why.
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Can you help design a skin that makes snapwiki.miraheze.org look like snap.berkeley.edu? I know you made the scratchwikiskin, and I would appreciate it. If not, can you give me someone who can help?<scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 00:32, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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:You need Snap's website skin. <s>Try to contact with Snap's administrators by forums, because it can cause plagiarism.</s> You can see [https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki/ScratchWikiSkin2 ScratchWikiSkin's codes].{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 17:38, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
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::It's a semi-official wiki. I just have no idea how to make a skin. <scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 18:48, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::About designing a new skin, I think a lot of people can help(including me). Also, I saw that Snap''!'''s codes are [https://github.com/snap-cloud/SnapSite open source]. You need to implement it through the Wiki with root access - administration or bureaucrat - over Wiki. I cannot promise, but I will try to create a skin.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 21:14, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
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::::Thanks! I have admin access, but I would need to get the company that hosts the wiki to do it! <scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 23:26, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
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:I don't design things on request. Making SWS was a labor of love that I volunteered for, and it took two months, so I'd have to be very personally involved in Snap''!'' before I would consider designing an entire skin for it.
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:That being said, I'm totally happy to answer any questions about the process of skin-making that you or Ahmetlii might have - I'm just not going to do the whole thing for you. I learned a lot when making SWS, and I wouldn't want to deprive you two of that :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:29, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Thanks! What is the skin coded in?<scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 14:05, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
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:::Also, I made a GH repo here:https://github.com/snapwiki/SnapWikiSkin <scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 14:23, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
  
You must enter a comment when uploading a new version of a file or editing a file page. You must also include a category when uploading new files.
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== TemplatesFTW ==
  
If you believe that this happened in error, please contact a bureaucrat to have it fixed. A list of bureaucrats can be found here. The name of the rule that triggered this warning is described as Prevent uploads or file edits with no comment or category.'''  "</small>
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It told me to compress my images, but i already did<scratchsig>Col_Cat228</scratchsig> 13:31, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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:Look from its perspective for a moment. Looking at your uploaded image, is there any way for it to tell that you compressed it? Not at all - if it can still compress it further, then there's no way of knowing it was already compressed once.
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:In the future, you can include the word "compress" (in any tense) anywhere in your upload summary to let TFTW know that that upload has already been compressed. However, make sure that you actually have compressed it before uploading it.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 20:07, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
  
<big>Please help if you can, thanks!</big>
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== [[:File:Distance-detecting.gif|About this page]] ==
:You need to upload the file with a comment/summary in the "Summary" box and include a category. (Read [[Help:Managing Files]] and [[Help:Categories]])<small>Btw, siggys go below the post, not above! {{e|:P}}</small> <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 03:23, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Help on Scratch ==
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It should be deleted, because it's unused.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:55, 25 July 2020 (UTC)(04:54, 25 July 2020 (HKT))
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:Ah, I see now. Include the deletion reason in the {{t|delete}} template next time :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:33, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
  
{{not done}}
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== Minecraft??? ==
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Do you happen to play Minecraft? I was playing some multiplayer and a user named kenny2minecraft was on the server. <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 00:32, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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:I do! Were you on Mineplex? I was opening the Mythical Chests that come with Legend rank.
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:Gosh, the world is tiny these days...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:30, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Yeah, I was. <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 18:49, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
  
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== Underscores in links ==
  
Hello. Thank you for your help on the new profile page thing. Can you help me with these things:
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I was thinking about reverting your bot's edit [[Special:Diff/254246|here]] (it's a case of [[Scratch Wiki:Style Guide#no-link-underscores|no-link-underscores]]), but I thought I should ask you first. It was a link to [[users:Evil_Kumquat]] that got changed to [[users:Evil Kumquat]] by your bot. I'd think that [[users:Evil_Kumquat]] would be better, though, to preserve the underscore in the username (the same reason we use <code><nowiki>{{ROOTPAGENAMEE}}</nowiki></code> instead of <code><nowiki>{{ROOTPAGENAME}}</nowiki></code>). If you agree that it should stay as [[users:Evil_Kumquat]], perhaps it would be a good idea to modify your bot to ignore internal links with the "users:" prefix. What do you think? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:32, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
How to make a talk page.
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:I already noticed this issue and I agree 100% that an exception to that rule should be made for the users: prefix. You can go ahead and modify the style guide if you haven't already, and I'll make the changes on my bot before the next time I run it. Thanks!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:07, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
How to make archives.
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::{{done}}, thanks! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:33, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
How to make private templates (if not possible, how can you make templates not listed in the Scratch archive of templates).
 
Thank you.
 
<scratchsig>Legogo7777</scratchsig> 01:09, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 

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