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== TestWiki ==
 
 
Hello Ken, just wondering about the testwiki, i have requested an account, and am wondering if i get accepted what does it take to get sysop rights? or is that something that takes a while, correct me if i am being annoying, kind regards,
 
 
{{User:JJBullet/Siggy2}} 12:03, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:You're way ahead of yourself - at least according to your account request, you speak no languages other than English, and that's one of the crucial parts of editing an other language wiki. Becoming sysop (at least [[User talk:Kenny2scratch/Permalinks#Would you like to get involved in the international Scratch-Wikis?|in my case]]), in particular on the test wiki, takes a general knack of international culture, and ideally a strong intuitive familiarity with MediaWiki.
 
:Thanks for reminding me about the test wiki, though - I haven't checked it recently because I've been flattened by schoolwork. I appreciate your willingness to help, but at the moment it would seem you don't have the skills we're looking for (which, of course, is not to say that you can't acquire them!).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:51, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 
 
::Ok Ken, understood, i will try to learn the necessary skills {{e|:)}}{{User:JJBullet/Siggy2}} 14:41, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 
 
== When to archive ==
 
 
Is there a certain size you would recommend archiving my page at? Or a certain amount of posts?{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 15:51, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:No, just archive whenever you feel like it. I personally go with 20 topics, but KrIsMa goes with 100 and you apparently go with 15 KB. You do you. {{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:47, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 
 
== HeLlO! ==
 
 
HI THERE! LONG TIME NO SEE (on wiki) {{e|:P}}<br/>
 
一点儿 (BTW, i think), how did you figure out your milestones? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 00:32, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:(一点儿, or 一點兒 in traditional, means "a little" - "by the way" is 順便說說, or 顺便说说 in simplified.)
 
:I just keep track of them as they come up - [[Special:Editcount/Kenny2scratch]] lists individual edit counts for each namespace. Additionally, when I actually pass a milestone I don't usually hit it spot on, so I count back in [[Special:Contributions/Kenny2scratch|my contribs]] to find the edit that actually pushed me over.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:35, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::(My teacher told me that 一点儿 means "by the way" and "a little". Also, why does it have "说说" at the end of what you were taught. (Double "speak").)
 
::(It looks like you do know simplified.....")
 
::Oh, dang! I have to to count back 250+ edits then!! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 03:41, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Ooh, there should be something in MediaWiki for this then.... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 03:43, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Your teacher is mistaken, or they come from a part of China that has really weird customs. 一點兒 always means "a little" or "a little bit". 说说 is a shortening of 说一说, literally "say a say" but roughly meaning "mention".
 
:::I don't know simplified - I used Google Translate from Chinese to traditional Chinese.
 
:::Contributions are paginated, remember? "show at most n contributions" - choose 250, then go one page into "older 250" and count [your edit count] - 250 - [the milestone] edits down.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:46, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Oof, I did think that 一点儿 did mean "by the way". Now I remember that 对了 means "BTW". Oops.
 
::::It's 280+. Too much to count. Maybe I'll make a scraper to do it for me.. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:34, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
 
== Hey, I have a question ==
 
 
I see you added a warning area that tells all users they need to switch to ScratchWikiSkin temporarily if they're in the Vector one. I also want this, because my userpage in Vector is not so good looking as in ScratchWikiSkin. Could you please teach me how to do this? Thanks!<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 19:58, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:You could copy it directly from [[User:Kenny2scratch/Content|my userpage content]], giving credit in an HTML comment.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:54, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::Okay, thanks! {{e|:)}} Just so you know though, I normally don't put my credits in comments - I put them all in bulk in a "Credits" section.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 10:06, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
 
 
== Question about the block log ==
 
 
I was scrolling through Recent Changes and I noticed that you blocked a user and then edited the logs so that it didn't show their name, block reason, etc.  I get why you censored that info for privacy, but what I don't understand is what's the purpose of having a [[Special:Log/block|block log]] if all it shows is (removed).  If you didn't want the info to display publicly, wouldn't it make more sense to make the page only viewable by bureaucrats and actually display the log information or simply delete the log page?<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 06:57, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:What you're talking about is an impossibility. We have no way (besides modding MediaWiki core) of hiding block logs automatically, so we simply manually hide all block logs as soon as creating them.
 
:(We do already have a monkeypatch to hide the [[Special:BlockList]], but hiding particular types of logs, especially when they show up in other feeds, is impossible.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:51, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::<s>Sorry to but in, [[Special:BlockList]] Doesnt exist, isnt it [[Blocks]] ??</s> my god, im sorry, ignore this{{User:JJBullet/Siggy2}} 10:23, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::}}
 
[[File:Screenshot of BlockList.png]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:13, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:Why are blocks censored?{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 12:38, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::We do not publicize blocks, because they only attract negative attention to the blocked users, so we protect their privacy in all ways possible so that anyone who has no need to know only knows that someone was blocked, not who was blocked or who blocked them.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:55, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Oh, so there's just no way to remove that page and you ''do'' have a special log just for bureaucrats.  Okie dokie, that answers my question.<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 16:26, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
  
 
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many thanks,{{User:JJBullet/Siggy2}} 14:21, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
many thanks,{{User:JJBullet/Siggy2}} 14:21, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
  
== Delete revisions ==
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== Moving plural page titles to singular ==
 
 
On page [[User:Dominic305/public/Hyperdrive OS Stat Graph]] can you please undelete it and as soon as you do remove the edits from the revision log that intrude on my privacy (you will know when you see them). Thanks{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 17:21, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:nvm{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 17:21, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
== [[MediaWiki:Requestaccount-ext-text]] Link Change ==
 
 
 
Can you can the [[Scratch Wiki:Become a contributor#How to Write Your Request]] link to [[Scratch Wiki:Become a contributor#What to Write in the "Request Notes"]]? The "How to Write Your Request" title was changed.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:55, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
 
:[[S:STYLE#no-section-underscores|please don't use the .22 stuff in links!]] {{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:28, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 
::Thank you! Whoops fixed! {{e|:P}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:59, 5 December 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Image Compression ==
 
 
 
Your bot, TemplatesFTW, compressed my image for the Privacy Policy article, Privacy_Policy.PNG (not sure how to link to it without embedding the whole image), and reduced it by 5 KB. I don't know why it did that since I already compressed it before uploading, and it was smaller than any of the previous versions of the image, at 48 KB. Does it have to be below a certain maximum file size? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 12:26, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 
:My bot won't reupload if the difference in size after compressing is <10% of the previous size; 10% of 48 KB is 4.8 KB, and a 5 KB difference is large enough to make it count. In the future, if you have compressed it, include the word "compress" (or any grammatically correct form of the word lol) somewhere in the upload message - it'll skip those.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:08, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 
::Okay, thanks <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 13:27, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Also, for linking to images, use <nowiki>[[:File:Privacy Policy.PNG]]</nowiki> (produces [[:File:Privacy Policy.PNG]].{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 12:01, 14 December 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Updating an image daily ==
 
 
 
Hello! I was wondering if I could upload an image to the wiki (a Google Sheets statistic) and update the image daily (or weekly). Would this be OK, or would you rather me not do it? ([[User:Dominic305/public/Hyperdrive OS Stat Graph|I currently have the images hosted on an external website.]]){{User:Dominic305/signature}} 23:43, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
 
:Your current method is fine, thanks for asking (I took a look at your links and checked that they're OK) - weekly uploads of a user image is not the kind of thing we want to encourage, for fear of flooding storage, let alone daily.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:09, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Extension Installment ==
 
 
 
Heyo!  For the [[Scratch Wiki:Scratch Wiki Adventure|Scratch Wiki Adventure]], we were hoping to use [[mw:Extension:GuidedTour|this extension]] as the "guide" for the user.  Do you think it'd be possible to have it installed here?<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 17:10, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 
:Replied on [[Scratch Wiki talk:Scratch Wiki Adventure]]<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:53, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
== I need help with the yeeting of the custom signature. ==
 
 
 
So, I made a [[User:TheAwesome98/signature|custom signature]], and I made sure it confomed to the rules. Now what? I have NO IDEA how to insert JavaScript files onto Wikis, by the way. <scratchsig>TheAwesome98</scratchsig> 16:44, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 
:[[S:GOODSIG]] is the guide to follow - it includes all the necessary instructions. JavaScript is irrelevant.
 
:<small>By the way, to "yeet" something is to throw it with great force - "yeeting" a custom signature doesn't make any sense.</small>{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:55, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Deleting a couple of pages ==
 
 
 
Hi! I made some subpages from my userpage that I don't use anymore, so could you please delete them? Thanks! Here are the links:
 
 
 
User:Nambaseking01/Work-In-Progress
 
  
User:Nambaseking01/Work-In-Progress/Template
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The last time we discussed about this topic was in early February, and it's already late April now – almost 3 months. It is very confusing to have both singular and plural pages, and it makes it harder for editors as well. <nowiki>[[Block]]s is the same as [[Block|Blocks]], but there is no shortcut for [[Blocks|Block]]. </nowiki>Shold we move all the pages, or can we just leave them and work with it? {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 21:34, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
  
<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 10:48, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
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==hi==
:{{done}} - next time use {{t|delete}} or post on [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:26, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
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hello random user that you probably didnt know that I exist saying hello cause theyre as bored as heck
::Okay, thanks for deleting them and informing me there are places for it!<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 11:36, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>Fashionqueen9</scratchsig> 21:22, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
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:lol hi, how you doin'?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:28, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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::I didn't know anyone existed, to be honest.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 09:00, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::Oh god lol <scratchsig>Fashionqueen9</scratchsig> 22:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::Yo remember to [[S:INDENT|indent]] replies :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:12, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  
== Scratchblock Extensions ==
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== About a broken link it's in your main page ==
  
On the page [[Blocks]], I've added the extension blocks, but for half the extensions the blocks are not showing correctly. Can you fix this?
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See: [[User:Kenny2scratch#cite_ref-6]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 16:52, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 01:40, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 
:I've fixed everything; the problem seems to be that you forgot to add <code>::extension</code> to the ones that are broken. For example <code><nowiki><sb>motor [ v] turn this way for () seconds::extension</sb></nowiki></code> would turn into <sb>motor [ v] turn this way for () seconds::extension</sb>. For me, using http://scratchblocks.github.io/ helps for previewing scratchblocks. Hopefully I helped! {{e|:)}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:47, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 
::Most extensions can be fixed by adding their extension names to the end, like ::ev3 or ::wedo. This fixes the icon at the left of the block. However, the text to speech, lego boost, and go direct ones don't seem to work. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 17:35, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Large images ==
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== 0-0 Sidebar ==
When editing the wiki, I found some 1920*1080 pictures. How did they get here, and why are they not crashing pages?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 01:13, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 
:They were either uploaded before the size limits came into place, or uploaded by an admin for some reason; they're not crashing pages because the crashing problem isn't that extreme (it only happened a few times), but our size limits are in place to be better safe than sorry.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:13, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Sandbox Clearing ==
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That sidebar is beautiful! How the chicken-horse did you make that?! I didn't know you could do that XD <scratchsig>Mohie</scratchsig> 15:49, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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:lol thanks, I don't really know how to explain it but in short the <code>&lt;div></code> that wraps the whole sidebar has the CSS attributes <code>position: fixed; left: 0; bottom: 0;</code> set on it so that it stays stuck to the left and bottom of the screen. I found the technique from {{user|GlassGalaxy|name}} whose userpage I was browsing for some reason.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:28, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
  
I don't know why, but is the sandbox not being automatically cleared?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:40, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
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== Scratch Wiki Adventure ==
:WM is currently down in multiple respects because jvvg's pi doesn't have reliable internet. He's aware of any issues and IIRC things should resolve themselves soon.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:10, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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{{done}}<br/>
::OK.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 19:41, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hi. [[Scratch Wiki:Scratch Wiki Adventure]] is finished finally, also I added a new button style for it. Can you download [[mw:Extension:GuidedTour|MediaWiki extension]] for the project? Thanks!{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 13:46, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
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:It's still waiting but Scratch Wiki Adventure is finished as final. Can someone from admins download MediaWiki extension to Wiki? As a reference, I'm added [[Special: Version|that link to here.]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 17:30, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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::I'm so sorry about post that again, but can you run MediaWiki extension in Wiki?(because I posted two weeks ago and that's still waiting). You can also take a look to the project's talk page.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::I saw your second message in this topic ("It's still waiting") and I actually did attempt to install the extension then; however, I ran into some problems, because our MW version is no longer supported by the latest release of the GuidedTour extension, nor by its dependency EventLogging. Additionally, EventLogging requires a server of its own to be running, so I need to figure that out too, which is hard while I'm also studying for exams. Now, however, I don't have exams for another week, so I can devote more energy to it, which I'll start doing today. {{doing}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:59, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::OK, thanks for informing me. I didn't know that. I'm sorry if I disturbed you.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 12:37, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Nah, sorry for not saying anything sooner. Not disturbed - I have to deliberately go on to the Wiki to check it, so if anyone was disturbing me it was myself :P{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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Okay, I think I've successfully installed it (<code>?tour=test</code> worked). Let me know if you need anything more from me. Some tips:
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* Use <code>?uselang=qqx</code> to find out where the MediaWiki: pages that control the text of things are.
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* Inspect Element is your friend.
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* Since the version I've installed is from [https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-GuidedTour/tree/REL1_28 October 2016], make sure to switch to versions of documentation at or before then when reading it
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Good luck!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:40, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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:GuidedTour is working for me. Thanks for all of your helps.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:00, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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:I read cheatsheet of GuidedTour again, and I need to create a page in MediaWiki: prefix, right? A note to myself: First, I must create GuidedTour in my Sandbox with definition of text variables, then post it to Community Portal.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:25, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
  
== Sleeping Thing not Working ==
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== Question on posting ==
  
Hello, Kenny2scracth. I noticed that your icons about sleeping time are not working in your header. Now it appears as the status and if it's in a weekend, "weekend-" is added at the start of the status. Thank you for your attention! <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 16:02, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hello! I was wondering how to make an individual post. I currently want to make a tutorial on how to calculate FPS in animations. However, I am having trouble finding where you post. Thank you for your time!
:...that's not what I see - I see "Awake" at the moment and there's nothing about "weekend-". Or what do you mean?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:09, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>TinkerGamez</scratchsig> 19:30, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
::I was also a little confused when I saw that post on Recent Changes :P<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 15:42, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
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:Hello, and welcome to the Scratch Wiki! I'm not Ken, but I can answer your question. Assuming that what you mean by "posting" is creating a page, you can do so [[Scratch Wiki:Create an article|here]]. Please read that page before you do so, though, and ensure that your page follows the [[Scratch Wiki:New Page Policies|New Page Policies]]. Also, please don't create your page if it has very little or no content when you begin; pages like that may be deleted. It may be a good idea to draft in [[S:USERSPACE|userspace]] beforehand. Good luck, and thank you for being so enthusiastic about editing the wiki! We're excited to see your contributions! {{e|:)}} <br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 23:18, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
:::Scramaso's right, it's broken. <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 15:45, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Hmm... It's broken for me on mobile but works just fine on my Chromebook. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 16:54, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::It's broken on my Windows 10 servuter. <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 17:00, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|5}}Welp, not going to get involved in something I don't understand. Bye!<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 17:01, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 
:Nevermind, it appears to be working for me on mobile now. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 17:41, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 
::It's broken on my Windows computer; it was off by 5 hours yesterday. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 17:42, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Well, seems like I understand a bit now. He seemed to be sleeping all the time before school started. I was active for a lot of time everyday and things seemed weird. Maybe this is the issue?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 16:30, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 
::::@Nambaseking01 I think that's because of time zones
 
::::@TenType about it being off by 5 hours, does that mean mine's off too? I have it glitching occasionally.{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 20:17, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Idk. It shows "asleep" when I was awake (like 2 hours ago it happened again) so I temporarily commented it out from my header. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 06:00, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|5}} I think I'll remove it from my header for now... it's set to say "Awake" right now but it says I'm still sleeping...{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 11:26, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Your regular Wiki account ==
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== The mystery of the [[Help:Welcome]] tutorials ==
  
Sorry for looking through your talk page on the regular Wikipedia (you linked it somewhere lol), but there were some intense conversations :/ Just though I should note that XD{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 00:40, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Ken, I hope you're doing well. I was going through the [[Help:Welcome]] tutorials and improving whatever I saw that needed to be improved. While I was doing this, I noticed something odd. These pages reminded me of Wikipedia and its aspects. For example, all of the headings were written in ''sentence case,'' not ''title case'' (I've fixed them now). Now, yes, yes, I know that this isn't enough to "remind me of Wikipedia," but here's another example: previously, the examples on [[Help:Welcome/4]] didn't use scratchsig (look in the recent page history).
:henh. bad memories.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:23, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== The login page ==
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So I did some investigation, and it turns out my suspicion was at least semi-correct. If you look at [[Wikipedia:Help:Introduction to talk pages/4]], it uses almost the exact same example as [[Help:Welcome/4]]. Now, when I first saw this, I had plagiarism concerns; even though it's just a tutorial, I think copying and not attributing Wikipedia may be a problem (keep in mind, I am not a lawyer, nor an expert in Wikipedia's legal policies! This was just my suspicion). I was thinking about what I should do about this, and thinking things like "would a post on the Community Portal voicing my concerns be sufficient?".
  
In the login page, there is a grammar error:<br/>
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So I did some more investigation, but this time it was in the form of copying some text from the [[Help:Welcome]] tutorials to my clipboard and doing a web search. Turns out, a lot of other wikis use some of the ''exact same wording'' as our tutorials, but replacing our wiki-specific stuff with their wiki-specific stuff. This kind of relieved my concerns about plagiarism, as now I thought it might be a MediaWiki thing or something like that.
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It says "There are problems with some of your input". Shouldn't it be "There are problems with some of your input'''''s'''''?
 
{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 19:38, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 
:"Some of your input" => "a portion of the data input by you". There is only one hunk of input data.
 
:Also, those strings are not written by me - they're by the people who made MediaWiki. If there's a grammar error there, you'd be better off reporting it with them.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:59, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
 
::OK.{{done}}
 
  
== Changing the content model ==
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But the problem is, these tutorial pages were not created when the Scratch Wiki began{{-}}they were created by a Wikian named {{user|Mrsrec|name}} in January 2014. Unfortunately, I couldn't find anything in the early page histories hinting at where that user got the text from.
How do you change the content model of a page?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:09, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
 
:[[Special:ChangeContentModel]] - only available to admins on this wiki.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 17:26, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 
::I have changed the content model of a page before, but I forgot how to do it.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 01:48, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 
:::I believe you had to move the page to a title that ends with .js .css .something...<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 02:05, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 
::::There's a page in JavaScript that needs to be changed to wikitext. Also, I appreciate your notification on my talk page, but I regularly check active users' talk pages and these messages can clutter up talk pages.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 02:09, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Can you delete the page [[User:CrazyBoy826/e]]?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 02:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::Ah, once the page has been created as JS moving it to a non-JS name won't change the content model. For cases like that it would have been better to post on [[S:CPSYS]] since {{t|delete}} wouldn't work.
 
::::::And yes, you have changed to content model of a page before, which is what alerted me that normal users could change content models and made me restrict the permission to admins.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Why is our MediaWiki version so old? ==
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Anyway, I'm sorry for that very long buildup, but my question for you is: do you know anything about these pages, and where they originally came from? I know that you weren't on the wiki in January 2014 (and I wasn't either; I joined in October 2014), but you certainly know a lot more about MediaWiki and the technical side of things than I do. As I said, I thought that this could be something that is provided by MediaWiki as a sort of "boilerplate tutorial."
  
(I'm posting this here because I though you'd probably know.) The latest version of MediaWiki is 1.34.0. However, [[Special:Version]] reports Scratch Wiki is on version 1.28.3. Why is the version so outdated?{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 15:33, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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In the beginning of this "mini-investigation," I had legitimate concerns, but not as much anymore (for the reasons I mentioned above). If you don't know anything about this, that's fine too. I'm sorry for taking up your time. {{e|:P}} Also, I hope I'm not missing something and the answer is really obvious. Then I would have just wasted my time. {{e|:P}}
:MW updates too fast for us - a MW upgrade is a semi-major technical endeavor that would put the wiki in read-only for at least an hour or so. This version of MW has all the features we really need, and it's also one version above the Long Term Support version of MW (1.27).
 
:As to why we're on 1.28 in particular, I can only assume that that was the latest version when the German wiki (the first of the international wikis) was created - I wouldn't know on that front, those decisions predate me.
 
:Be glad with what you have. Before the [[Scratch Wiki#Server Transfer|first transfer]], the enwiki was on 1.22...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:49, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== About my Image ==
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Also, I didn't post this on the Community Portal because I felt it was not related enough to daily Scratch Wiki matters to post it there. (However, if someone other than Ken reads this, feel free to reply!)
  
See... the thing you did to my image... was pointless... you made it a little bigger... and it didn't help that much
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Best regards, <br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 04:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
<scratchsig>LokiBlaster</scratchsig> 14:39, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
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:Oh, by the way, if you don't want to read something this long or don't care to look into it or reply, that's fine too. {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 05:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
:Hi, in the future just use four tildas (~~<includeonly/>~~) to sign your messages.
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::As far as I know there isn't a boilerplate tutorial in MediaWiki, so our welcome tutorials are probably modified from Wikipedia. If so, that's not plagiarism, it's legitimate adaptation, because Wikipedia, and we, are under CC BY-SA. It's disturbing to me that Mrsrec created the tutorials, though, because there's a bad history with that one. Still, legally it's 100% fine.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:12, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
:And my bot did exactly what it was supposed to - your image's filesize (number of bytes, not dimensions) was reduced while preserving all image data. I'm not sure what you mean by "made it a little bigger" - the only measurement that changed was decreased, not increased.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:01, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
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:::I think like Ken. This wiki is applying one of the CC BY-SA licenses, so someone can apply every CC BY-SA licenses(they are compatible with all of CC BY-SA licenses). Nobody don't need supply it for every use, [https://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/License_Versions#Detailed_attribution_comparison_chart that's some kind of "their choices".] Legally, there isn't a problem now, but if Wikipedia warns us - however, that's nearly impossible, internet is a huge world - we must add a notice.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 09:35, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::Interesting. Thanks for replying. I still find it odd that other non-Wikipedia wikis use the same tutorials, though. {{e|:P}} I thought you had to attribute Wikipedia though?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 12:48, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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*First answer: Yes, sort of.
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*Second answer: No, because of Wikipedia's general rules, you don't need mention as I know. Also, I said in OP, nobody wants to warn every wikis individually.
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*Third answer: There is international laws like fair use or Berne Convention, but I don't think they are working fully compatible. Also, if you take a look Wikipedia's policies, [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Copyrights|they allow copy-paste to another place.]]
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In conclusion: Wikipedia's legal status isn't clear so much because they're using multiple licenses+their own rules+includes anonymous and problematic articles/edits. Some of countries banned Wikipedia in the past because of that. As final, I think there isn't a problem for now - without if they change the rules, but I don't think so - We can use without mentioning Wikipedia for now. For example, Scratch Wiki is using Wikipedia with interwiki link.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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:I'm not sure you're right about "you don't need mention as I know," at least according to the "Attribution" section of [[Wikipedia:WP:Copyrights#Reusers' rights and obligations]].
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:However, again, I'm not sure there is a problem, because many wikis use the same tutorials as us. I thought it could be something built-in to MediaWiki, but Ken doesn't think so. Perhaps it's something like that, but more subtle? Like, some pre-written tutorials that anyone can use for their wiki and {{user|Mrsrec|name}} just found? I'm really not sure, though I'm not as worried anymore about copyright (as I said in my original post).
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:<small>Also, I am dedicated to keeping this emoji as the only emoji that is used in this conversation: {{e|:P}}</small><br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:16, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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::Alright, Ken and ahmetlii, look at this: [[Help:Tracking Changes]]
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::Now compare it to this: [[Wikipedia:MW:Help:Tracking changes]]
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::I guess we can confirm that ''this'' was a pre-written page for wikis based on MediaWiki now (and look! it's in the public domain, so no attribution is necessary), though I'm still not sure about the [[Help:Welcome]] tutorials.
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::This helps me, though, because now I know of this: [[Wikipedia:MW:Project:PD help]]
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::So there ''are'' sets of tutorials (in the public domain) provided by MediaWiki for new wikis{{-}} so I was partially correct. Again, I'm still not sure about the [[Help:Welcome]] tutorials specifically, though. Did either of you know about this? {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:46, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::Yes, I can't see any similar tutorial with [[Help:Welcome]].
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:::I know that some of technical articles copied from MediaWiki (and I'm using it for information, MediaWiki has the best resources for Wikitext and server-side PHP-Wiki collaboration). However, lots of MediaWiki articles are created by Wiki system, and you cannot see their histories and cannot edit it (except admins). [[Help:Welcome]] is probably created for helping new users inspired from Wikipedia, like [[Scratch Wiki:Scratch Wiki Adventure]] but I think anybody will not need them '''so much''' in a near future - extensions are developing for Wiki's every years. I think this topic is probably {{done|closed}}.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 21:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
  
== Side box ==
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== My new template ==
  
Can I use your side box? Please reply on my talk page<scratchsig>Waffle_Iron_Studios</scratchsig> 20:06, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Ken, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me what you think of [[User:Bigpuppy/UpDown]], my new template. It was inspired by [[Wikipedia:Template:Skip to top and bottom|this template on Wikipedia]], though I didn't take any code from there.
  
== I need a wikicode box... ==
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You don't have to give me feedback, but you've given me feedback on my templates in the past, so maybe you enjoy it! {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 05:15, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:Oh, and also, I already know of the issues with viewing it on vector. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 05:23, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:Your methods are sound, but what's the idea behind [https://i.gyazo.com/6361b925323de10d07c76cd39f77d4f9.png leaving so much space between it and the side of the page]?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:16, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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::As a second note, [https://i.gyazo.com/470a30749eb84114599dcf8b793e20c8.png up/down buttons isn't working good on mobile.] I think the buttons' place should be at right middle.<span style="color:grey">(I'm talking about mobile phones, tablets, etc. If you look to Ken's screenshot, you will see that it's cropped from a computer.)</span>{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 08:59, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::Ken, that's so it shows up nice beside [[User:Bigpuppy|my sidebar]]. Maybe I'll add a parameter to change the position. Ahmetlii, ditto. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 14:29, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::Hmm, I just realized that it's not responsive, so it may not show up nice next to my sidebar on some screens (not just mobile screens, but also desktop/laptop computer screens).<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 14:37, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Ahmetlii, I see that you edited your post multiple times — however, I already understood what you meant the first time. As I said, maybe I'll add a parameter to change the position. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 14:45, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Ahmetlii, Ken, it now has parameters and documentation for how to move it wherever you want on the screen. What do you think?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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Looks like good, but I'm not sure about CSS page documentation; <code>.updown</code> isn't working.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 17:54, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:Really? It's working for me.. Have you done a [[Help:Hard Refresh|hard refresh]]?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:55, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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::Hard refresh is hard in mobile and special CSS pages aren't working accurately. If it's working for you, there's not a problem.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:02, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::Ah, okay. (Also, please don't edit my posts, no matter how minor the edit; I put two periods for a reason {{e|;)}})<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
  
Can you design a box with WikiCode that looks like a table of contents and has a black background, if you have some time? I need it for my new userpage and it would be a huge help. Thanks! (It's fine if you can't, I can ask someone else.){{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:54, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
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== As of writing, you have exactly 12,000 edits! ==
:Lemme try below:
 
<div class="toc" style="background-color: black; color: white;">
 
<div style="text-align: center">
 
<h2 style="border-bottom: 1px solid white;">Contents</h2>
 
</div>
 
<ul style="margin-left: 0">
 
<!-- this is where you start adding items -->
 
<li class="toclevel-1">[[#You're gonna have to|<span class="tocnumber">1</span><span class="toctext">You're gonna have to</span>]]
 
  <ul>
 
  <li class="toclevel-2">[[#manually specify the list numbers|<span class="tocnumber">1.1</span><span class="toctext">manually specify the list numbers</span>]]</li>
 
  </ul>
 
</li>
 
<li class="toclevel-1">[[#and section titles, though|<span class="tocnumber">2</span><span class="toctext">and section titles, though</span>]]</li>
 
<!-- this is where you stop adding items -->
 
</ul>
 
</div>
 
:This should work! (Try clicking the links!)
 
:Code for the entire example:
 
<syntaxhighlight lang="html"><div class="toc" style="background-color: black; color: white;">
 
<div style="text-align: center">
 
<h2 style="border-bottom: 1px solid white;">Contents</h2>
 
</div>
 
<ul style="margin-left: 0">
 
<!-- this is where you start adding items -->
 
<li class="toclevel-1">[[#You're gonna have to|<span class="tocnumber">1</span><span class="toctext">You're gonna have to</span>]]
 
  <ul>
 
  <li class="toclevel-2">[[#manually specify the list numbers|<span class="tocnumber">1.1</span><span class="toctext">manually specify the list numbers</span>]]</li>
 
  </ul>
 
</li>
 
<li class="toclevel-1">[[#and section titles, though|<span class="tocnumber">2</span><span class="toctext">and section titles, though</span>]]</li>
 
<!-- this is where you stop adding items -->
 
</ul>
 
</div></syntaxhighlight>
 
:Format for section without child:
 
<syntaxhighlight lang="html"><li class="toclevel-LEVEL WHERE 1 IS TOP">[[#TITLE OF SECTION|<span class="tocnumber">NUMBER OF ITEM IN LIST</span><span class="toctext">TITLE OF SECTION AGAIN</span>]]</li></syntaxhighlight>
 
:Format for section with child:
 
<syntaxhighlight lang="html"><li class="toclevel-LEVEL">[[#TITLE OF SECTION|<span class="tocnumber">NUMBER OF (LEVEL) ITEM IN LIST</span><span class="toctext">TITLE OF SECTION AGAIN</span>]]
 
<ul>
 
  <li class="toclevel-LEVEL+1">[[#TITLE OF SUBSECTION|<span class="tocnumber">NUMBER OF (LEVEL) ITEM IN LIST.NUMBER OF (LEVEL+1) ITEM IN LIST</span><span class="toctext">TITLE OF SUBSECTION AGAIN</span>]]</li>
 
</ul>
 
</li></syntaxhighlight>
 
:(Here's where the example links to, just to illustrate that the links work - don't duplicate this.)
 
<ol class="references" style="font-size: inherit">
 
<li id="You.27re_gonna_have_to">the 1st item</li>
 
<li id="manually_specify_the_list_numbers">the 1st child of the 1st item</li>
 
<li id="and_section_titles.2C_though">the 2nd item</li>
 
</ol>
 
:Try it out - tinker if you need. No need to credit me in this case but you're still welcome to - this was a fun challenge, but not too time-consuming, :) thanks for helping me keep in practice with HTML lol :D{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:10, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::It looks great, I'll try it! Thank you soooooooo much! {{e|:)}}{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 16:44, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:::It works and looks awesome! Thanks again!{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 16:47, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::::You're welcome! Again, it was fun to figure out. :) Looks pretty good on your page, too, for which I'm glad :D{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 00:42, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Your bot is acting weird ==
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[[Special:Editcount/Kenny2scratch|Congratulations!]] {{e|tenmil}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:59, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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:{{e|tenmil}} I realized that this record won't be breakable for another five years... {{e|O_O}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:08, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Making a couple edits to blow me past it... 11000 and 12000 now recorded! Yay me {{e|:D}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:20, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
  
[[:File:Flag-stop-scratch-3.PNG]] was compressed from 2KB to... 2KB?{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 14:51, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
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== [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Logging server faults]] ==
:Downloading the two versions and checking the exact filesizes reveals that it was from 2.2KB to 1.7KB.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:04, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::Ah, OK.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 17:35, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== My request to create a file was denied but it should be accepted ==
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I realize that this is the fourth topic in a row I've posted on this page, and no one else has posted one in-between, but...
  
I was trying to create a file for my welcome template, but it got denied because I didn't add a summary, but that's exactly what I did, so I was told if the result was an error, I had to tell a bureaucrat about it. Please do whatever you can about this problem. Thank you.
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What do you think about having a separate page for [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Logging server faults]]? I've collapsed it so it takes up less space, but that won't help the CP loading time, and since it's a {{not done|never done}} topic, it will only get larger. Multiple people have voiced their support for a separate page there too. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
<scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 17:30, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
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:{{done|Moved}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:39, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
:The message you got said this:
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::Thanks {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 00:10, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
{{quote|You must enter a comment when uploading a new version of a file or editing a file page. '''You must also include a category when uploading new files.'''|AbuseFilter}}
 
:Looking at the abuse log, you did have a summary, but you didn't have a [[Help:Categories|category]].{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:17, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::There was only one option, and it said "No category". What do I do?
 
<scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 10:21, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:::You would need to type the following:
 
:::<code><nowiki>[[Category:Users' Images]]</nowiki></code>{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 13:48, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Thank you, Dominic305, and Kenny2scratch, for your help! <scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 17:31, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Hi ==
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==S:USERSPACE==
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Hello! I was confused where in [[S:USERSPACE]] it says "Even if it is your own page, you are not allowed to edit the messages of other users or remove them unless removing the entire thread or a disrespectful message". Does "thread" refer to a topic or the whole user talkpage? For convenience, please reply at <span class="plainlinks">https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/User_talk:Garnetluvcookie#C2.A0Awaiting_response:_Special:Diff.2F252306</span> if another EEW or admin hasn't replied yet. Thank you! <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 21:35, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
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:{{done|Resolved}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:04, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  
Why was my message deleted?
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== CPSYS ==
  
<scratchsig>BookTV</scratchsig> 00:49, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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Sorry if you're busy but would you mind checking [[S:CPSYS]] if you have time? Thanks {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:01, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
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:{{done}}, thanks for bringing it to my attention and soz for neglecting it for so long lol{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:04, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
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::Thank you! Sorry for bothering you.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:07, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

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