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Actually, I didn't sign the post to see if the bot would notice.<scratchsig>Krett12</scratchsig> 01:25, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
Actually, I didn't sign the post to see if the bot would notice.<scratchsig>Krett12</scratchsig> 01:25, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
::The bot doesn't detect the {{t|unsigned}} template as a signature, so just wait. It should say "sleeping XX seconds", and after that many seconds, it will send you a notification.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 01:25, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

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Can I have my "full briefing" now?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 18:18, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

I was planning on waiting until the rest of the Wiki community is ok with you taking over WM for a while.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:21, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Okay, but you said you would on the CP (wow we have a lot of abbreviations).
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 18:22, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
Don't worry, I will. Basically, the "briefing" just entails reading a bunch of manuals I wrote. To start, read the basic technical manual. I will write a more detailed manual outlining the other stuff later.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:24, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
I also put together an operations manual in my sandbox.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:38, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

how's the admin transition?

... You seem like you are enjoying admin and also helping the wiki at the same time! Is admin powers interesting? ;)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 19:25, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

Indeed it is. The most useful power I have is protecting pages, but it's a very useful one.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:26, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
glad you love the protection! A small question, is there more protection other than sysop, and autoconfirmed? :) ps:should I complete the parserfunc. page quickly or not (in other words do you think that page is important and should finishit quickly or not?)second question, should it be named scratch wiki: parserfunc. Or stay the same as help:parserfunc.? Wow I can't use a phones keyboard properly sorry if I have lots of typos :)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:14, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
There's editlockedpages, but other than that, no.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 07:34, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I asked scmb1 to give us EW protection too, as I found out how.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 12:20, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Great! Do you want the parsefunc. Page to be moved to a new namespace scratch wiki? And how fast do you want me to finish it ? :)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:15, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:28, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Oops, I mean if you want to change the namespace for Help:ParserFunctions to scratch wiki: and how fast you want me to finish the page by :P
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:33, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

There's no hurry for you to finish, and I personally think it works better as a help page.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:42, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Great! Thanks!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 20:26, 15 June 2014 (UTC)


Is this template now useful?
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 00:11, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

I suppose it is.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:00, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
yeah, I am not sure why she reverted your edits.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:05, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

RE: WM stuff to read about

I think I am ready to run WM. Could you send me the source files in a zip (maybe on Dropbox) so I can start running it now, in case something goes wrong, you will be around until July. Reply on my page please.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 15:26, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

I already put it on Github. I will turn off WM for 3 hours after this message is submitted so you can test.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:28, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
How did you program the authentication? There is an error on Line 68. I tried making logininfo.php, and changed WikiMonitor to Krett12(I'm gonna run it on my main account). The PHP code for this bot is a lot different than what I've seen for other bots. Can you help me out?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 16:31, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
What did the error say?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:27, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Btw, you're going to need to do a find-replace and replace every instance of WikiMonitor in the code with the username you are using.
Actually, hold that thought. Only replace the ones where it looks like it needs to change. Don't change the configuration entries.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:30, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
You should set it as a variable, so you could do like "User:$username". Or maybe even a constant, but I don't think PHP lets you include constants like that.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 17:38, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── PHP does in fact let you do constants. Anyway, done, it should be on Github now.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:45, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

I was specifically talking about double quote inclusion. But not like concatenation is too difficult. :P
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 17:51, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
My standard in programming is never to use double quotes in PHP unless using escape sequences. I want text to appear as I typed it, and all of the capabilities of double quotes get kind of confusing.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:59, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I also found the error. I was using file_get_contents instead of curl_get. This means that if the request fails, it will try to parse anyway and crash.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:13, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Not a bad idea. Do you ever do something like 'some text' . "\n", or will you relax and use "some text\n"?
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:18, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I do 'some text' . "\n" - one thing I am very strict about is following standards. It just so happens I don't have a standard to organize my code. :P
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:19, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Too late about the find-and-replace thing, I did it before you told me to. I'll put up a screenshot. Sorry, WM seems different than other bots and I might need more help than usual.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 19:28, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Alright, this is what I see : http://s14.postimg.org/5bt5xcwe9/Page_1_Picture_15.jpg After I downloaded the new version, it's line 69 not 68, I'd look at it but I have to go.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 20:31, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Hmm. The way PHP works, if it parses for one person, it should parse for everyone. Do you have an outdated version of PHP?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:49, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Oh, the problem is I'm trying to run it directly off my hard drive, I'll upload it to a server.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 03:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

It's ok if you run it directly off a hard drive, as long as the computer is on. In many cases, a server is really just a computer with specialized software.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 11:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Well, I fixed it when I uploaded it to a server. Maybe the PHP worked better?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 13:50, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

PS. I am gonna turn off WikiMonitor for a minute. Can you accept my Tweaker account?

Hmm...It disables mine too since they both check the same page. Can you close its window?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 14:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

When it's disabled, I have to turn it on manually again. Go ahead and test it, let me know when you are done. I will also accept Tweaker.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:57, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! I will now hook it up to the bot.
Tweaker (talk | contribs) 15:52, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Great! I'll turn WM back on and let you know when I'm leaving.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:39, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Also, once I notify you that I am leaving for vacation (which should be the beginning of July), you should change User:WikiMonitor/Configuration/MessageSuffix to reflect that you are temporarily in charge. I also would recommend putting something on User:Tweaker (even if it's just a redirect to WM's userpage).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:10, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I was planning to alter it. Also, I think that Tweaker's talk page is funny (even though the welcome message is automated)
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 19:11, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
You can just do what I did on WM's talk page.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:13, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

I know, but that's not funny.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 19:43, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

That wasn't intended as a joke.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:03, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


I think the way you did it looks better than mine, since I'm only gonna run it temporarily, and it's not July yet.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 19:10, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


Do you think this page should be deleted?
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 22:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I do.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:33, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
So, can you delete the page?
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 22:35, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes Done I had the delete page open, but I got distracted by an article about the Los Angeles Metro.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:38, 16 June 2014 (UTC)


There is some bug related to clearing the Sandbox, I might remove that.
-unsigned comment by Krett12 (talk | contribs)

Actually, I didn't sign the post to see if the bot would notice.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 01:25, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

The bot doesn't detect the {{unsigned}} template as a signature, so just wait. It should say "sleeping XX seconds", and after that many seconds, it will send you a notification.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:25, 17 June 2014 (UTC)