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== defaults ==
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Does the wiki have the default photos and costumes that come with Scratch when you download it?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 20:36, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
:Some of them. Why? <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 00:08, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
::Just wondering. I need a link to the page. I think I'll add the rest of them.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 03:03, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
:::There is no page on them, and I don't really think one is necessary and they don't really have much purpose here on the wiki. What would they illustrate or teach? <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 03:57, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
::::So users don't go onto Google images and look through millions of photos for a picture of the MIT building.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:43, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::I agree with Veggieman, the pictures won't help. And Curiouscrab, what are you talking about in your last response? <scratchsig>Mathfreak231</scratchsig> 23:04, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::Some users look up new pictures because they don't know about the defaults. And sometimes I'll be talking to somebody and then they'll be like where'd you get that picture and then I have to explain everything in a complicated way.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 23:20, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
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I think maybe a page explaining where to find them and ONLY A FEW examples of them would be sufficient. <scratchsig>Mathfreak231</scratchsig> 16:06, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

== list of curators, list of SDS's, why not a list of featured and curated? ==
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Title seems long, but it gets my point across. It would be pretty cool to have a list of each. Sorry if there already is a list for each. I couldn't find it. Also, a link to the gallery which contains all the curated and/or featured projects.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 19:12, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
:We're not trying to advertise the projects, specifically, though. Plus, would we even be able to find all curated projects?? <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 19:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
:I agree with Veggie. Too "advertise-y" and too hard to find. <scratchsig>Mathfreak231</scratchsig> 13:38, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
::There's a gallery with every single project since curating/featuring first started. Also, click on See more for the featured row and all of them come up.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 19:10, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Still, I don't think we should be encouraging lists of projects. I kind of think we shouldn't have the ones that we have. :\ <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 22:01, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
::What gallery? There is no gallery for every curated project. One of my projects were curated, and I never got a notice saying that it has been added to a gallery. Also, the featured projects place doesn't have the first curated projects, it only has a certain number of pages, and when a featured project reaches that last page, it is off the front page. It would also be extremely hard. Let's say that someone get curated, and they curate two projects a day, we would have to be editing non-stop.<scratchsig>Joletole</scratchsig> 22:13, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Once again I agree with Veggie and Joletole. Too hard to manage, and we don't need a list like this. We already have enough lists :\ <scratchsig>Mathfreak231</scratchsig> 13:44, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:A list of all featured projects is available [http://scratch.mit.edu/channel/featured here]. A list of all curated projects isn't really so important. Why not do all the projects that have ever been on the front page while we're at it? {{RollEyes}} <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 13:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
::All the featured projects can be found [http://scratch.mit.edu/channel/featured here].<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 16:49, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
::@Scimonster Well, I was only thinking the ones that are possible. It was kind of like a user on the wiki trying to see how to get more popular and come across a featured project list and views them all and sparks an idea for a new game or animation to help them out and they can learn from others' scripts and use others' costumes/backgrounds (with permission) and then they stick with Scratch for years to come.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 17:15, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
::@Joletole The editing non-stop thing, well, what edits do you make anyway on the wiki other than responding to my posts? Same with everybody else. This brings up the thing with veggie wanting us to stay away from editing our userpages, but that's all we can do. This would give us a reason to edit for once. All we do right now is find grammar mistakes and fix a picture or two, but not much else. The wiki could be active, not that it isn't already. Maybe a little more active.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 17:17, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:::In the [[Featured Projects]] article, you can add a link to the list of featured projects. As for what edits you can make, Scratch 2.0 beta is opening in 7 days. There'll be plenty to edit then! <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 17:45, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Says the person who has 34% of there edits on User Talk pages, and 4% on articles.
:::Also, here are somethings you could do:
*Look through stub pages and finish them
*Help the page [[Development of Scratch 1.0]]
*Start the page [[Development of Scratch 2.0]]
*Eat pie (:P)
*Add images to pages without images
*Hit the random page button and see a random page. 
<scratchsig>Joletole</scratchsig> 18:58, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:Actually, I'd recommend that you don't help with/start either of the development articles unless you really know what you're doing because you'd need a whole lot of information that's really hard to find and I'm going to do it so yeah. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 19:06, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:+1 to veggie. I don't know anything about the development. That was my other idea, Scimonster. And Joletole, did you not just hear me talk about there is nothing else to edit other than my userpage and simple grammar mistakes? And at Joletole, you just looked into Recent Changes and chose a random name and made it up. Scratch 2.0 isn't even out yet! You can't create a page without the actual thing out, otherwise it's basically useless until then, and then that's a lot of complicated stuff. Right now, we can all look at veggieman001's page about the development of Scratch 1.0 (no idea what took so long for it's creation) and I can make a either a Disambug (probably not) or redirects for the new page.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:20, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
::(Well that puts a lot of pressure on him). But, I just hit the random page button, and look where I went: [[ScratchJr]]. A page that was never finished. We have a lot of info on this. And also, you, and a lot of other people have access to 2.0. Besides, we are getting really off topic here. Also, im leaving the wiki. Not for good, but im just not in the mood to edit. Sorry.<scratchsig>Joletole</scratchsig> 22:38, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
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===Divider 1===
Lots of stuff. First divider. I don't have access to 2.0 That's in 7 days. Then I'll use cloud variables and make my own version of multiplayer using long lists to plot the x and y positions of characters in my games so you can have a one-on-one battle and it seems to be multiplayer. Today I discovered how to use the user id blocks to have it so only one user can control a certain sprite so the other user van't cheat and control the other user's character.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:52, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
<br>@Joletole My edits outside of my user name space have increased lately and I haven't made an edit on my userpage for a while until today when I fixed something on it. That's probably the last edit I'll make on it until 2.0 comes along.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:Oh. I thought you signed up. Recently, 500 new testers were added to help test 2.0. <scratchsig>Joletole</scratchsig> 23:16, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
::I was 501.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 23:18, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

== articles in progress category ==
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I don't see why this is needed. The template would be on the page and anybody viewing the category wouldn't really be able to use it. All they know is that they can't, or shouldn't, edit those pages at the moment. The category isn't being used for anything. Anybody have something to add/say?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 16:53, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:Well, it's the same with almost all of those. Why can't we just use the WhatLinksHere page for it? [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 43#Templates adding categories|I brought this up a while ago, but it never really got resolved.]] <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 17:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

== Recent Changes article ==
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I have no idea what some of the things mean in recent changes. I can't find any previously existing articles about, or that include, what some of the things mean.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 17:22, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:What are you confused about? <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 17:50, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
::Why are some numbers in bold (<b>+544</b>)<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:22, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Bold numbers indicate a major change in page size. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 00:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

== [[Special:DoubleRedirects]] ==
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KrIsMa's Sandbox appears to contain a double redirect. Fix?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 23:32, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think so, since it's her userspace and not really harming anything. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 00:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
::Lol it's an infinite redirect :D <scratchsig>Mathfreak231</scratchsig> 14:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== archive dead links ==
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I noticed in the Wanted pages a lot of the pages are caused by pages linked to in the archives. Could the admins remove any red links in the archives whenever a page is deleted or an archive is made?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 23:38, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
:It's preferable to just keep archives as-is, as otherwise they wouldn't be accurate archives. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 00:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

== [[User:Curiouscrab/Redirect]] ==
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New template idea ^.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 00:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
:I don't think it's really necessary considering redirects are pretty easy as-is. :\ <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 00:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
::It takes a while to create a redirect with the category and stuff. And the test thing was for testing the new template and then it would be a redirect to [[Scratch Wiki:Sandbox]].<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 01:38, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
:::If you want to test the template, do it in your own userspace. And it really doesn't; it's already pretty easy. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 02:05, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
::::Couldn't. It needed a page with nothing on it. I thought might as well test it on a page and then remove it and use the page for something before it becomes a little redirect.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 02:57, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::You could've used a page like [[User:Curiouscrab/Redirect Test]] or something of the sort. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 05:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::I don't like having pages deleted that much, so I try to limit the number of not useful pages I make.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:29, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

== New curator. ==
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There is a new curator, TeslaKat. An admin needs to update the news. <scratchsig>Coinman</scratchsig> 00:41, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

== [[User:Curiouscrab/Sandbox#Template]] ==
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New template idea. Place to keep all pages that need to be deleted, but an admin can't do so at the time. Link above.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:09, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
:theres already a template that does exactly what you say, <nowiki>{{Accidentally Created}} </nowiki>.
:{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}} 04:38, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
::I think it should be renamed for <nowiki>{{Deletion Request}}</nowiki> and maybe the template changed a little.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 21:53, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
:::I think some new users that just learned about a template called "Deletion Request" might use it on pages that they only THINK are useless, but a template called "Accidentally Created" would be rather left alone by people who don't know what they're doing. <scratchsig>Mathfreak231</scratchsig> 14:13, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== mod download ==
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Sometimes I have trouble downloading mods. It would be cool if somebody could go in and add in the mod articles how to download and install correctly.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 18:03, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
:We could perhaps have a page on how to install mods. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 18:10, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
::Not all mods are the same. It would go along with the images of the Scratch mods. Images of what to click and different things for Windows, Mac, Linux, etc.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 18:20, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
:::But they should provide their own technical support then; we can't do everything for them. :\ Providing information about downloading and installing .image files is reasonable, though, along with including a note on each mod's page on its method of install. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 18:23, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

== glitch ==
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I just received an edit confilct, yet nobody else edited it (at least not according to the Recent Changes).<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:27, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
:That is because two people were editing and he left without submitting the edit.
:{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}} 23:16, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
::Who did?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 23:18, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
:::(example) KrIsMa goes and edits a page, and still is, when you join after. You submit something when I am not done editing the page. You recieve a edit conflict, yet I do not. I leave without saving the page. That is an example.
:::{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}} 23:21, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
::::I understand, but was it you who caused the edit conflict?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 23:28, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::What page was this? <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 02:09, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
::::::The page you're posting on right now.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 02:18, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Scratch 2 theme ==
Should we try to create a theme that looks like the Scratch 2 interface so when it gets properly released the wiki can integrate? <scratchsig>Logiblocs</scratchsig> 16:54, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
:I moved this to the Community Portal.
:JSO has already made a theme, and i think it's almost done too. You can try it by adding ?useskin=scratch2 (or &useskin=scratch2 if it already has a question mark) to the end of any URL. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 17:28, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
::Didn't work on this portal.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 20:25, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
:::You have to do it before the #. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 20:25, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
::::I typed in [http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/Scratch_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal&useskin=scratch2]<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 20:50, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::Accidently has extra "r", looked like user instead of use.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 20:53, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::Never mind, still not working.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 20:54, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::Works [http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Red_Blocks_(disambiguation)?useskin=scratch2 here]<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 20:55, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
Update: Use ?useskin=scratch2 on page and &useskin=scratch2 when editing.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 20:57, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
:Then what Sci said still stands true...? <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 23:34, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
::Yes, but he wasn't very clear about it other than if the URL already contains a "?".<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 01:16, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
: As this is an experimental skin (and you're not even supposed to be using it) you might notive stuff goes weird sometimes. (read: I'm working on it so beware). <scratchsig>JSO</scratchsig> 21:16, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
This is a good idea but this will prevent me from creating Scratch Wiki Pages on my 3DS To having to wait ages for the CSS To load
<scratchsig>Devloper123</scratchsig>17:28,11 Febuary 2013 (GMT)

== curator ==

I became curator today!<scratchsig>Joletole</scratchsig> 01:14, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
:Ooh, congratulations! :)<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 01:18, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
:Nice! You're #99! I updated the news. :) <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 09:01, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
:Congratz. I didn't notice since I rarely use the 1.4 site anymore.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:37, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

== projects ==
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If I make projects specifically for the wiki or a certain topic on the wiki, can I add it as an example project? I was just wondering. I might make more example projects for the wiki.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 21:58, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
<br>If no, then can I make an account called Scratch Wiki (looked up, not taken yet) and upload projects to there to prevent popularity on my project if the admins think that's what's happening (sometimes admins are skeptical about everything)?<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 22:26, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
:1) I don't think you should create an account called ScratchWiki or Scratch-Wiki or whatever, just because that would make you seem like an official representative. 2) There usually aren't cases where there aren't example projects for something on the wiki, but we try and find a notable example of one if there isn't. If you have to create an example because you can't find one, perhaps the type of project isn't really notable enough. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 00:13, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
::1. Lots of users (including KrIsMa) see me as an official representative because I was the first to help them or their first friend. 2. My latest project [http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/curiouscrab/3061241 here] has never been created before and hasn't been added to the animation types page because it is being considered whether or not it's an actual type of animation or an animation tool that would be a whole new article.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 01:52, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
:::1) I think that ''lots'' may be an overstatement. And I don't think that accounts with names like that should really be created or used by anyone except perhaps the bureaucrats, since they're the ones actually in charge. 2) I fail to see how this is relevant. An article such as "animation tool" also wouldn't be necessary unless they were a trend on Scratch, which I see no evidence of. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 02:08, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
::::1. Then you can tell Lucario621 that in a suggestion. 2. It isn't a trend currently, but that's mostly because the script is very complicated and takes lots of Math, but a wiki article or section would help users incorporate it in projects.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 02:17, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
:::::1) What would the purpose be for such a wiki account? 2) Then that would probably go under a tutorial-type page, not an informational-type page. Writing tutorials is encouraged. :) <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 04:05, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
:::Actually, i thought i was an official representative of the wiki, being an admin and having the highest edit count... I don't think an account is necessary. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 08:10, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

== Community To-Do List ==

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As many users brought up earlier in past archives of this page, there is nothing to edit (after 2.0 we'll be right back where we are right now) and I was thinking we could make a new category for pages that need work, but aren't stubs or anything, just need maybe rewording or something. Then a page or just have the category with the list so users can go work on those pages and then remove them from the category or add them to another new gallery for admins to check to make sure they are good and then are removed.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 02:31, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
:[[Scratch Wiki:To-do]] <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 04:00, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
::Very outdated.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 00:28, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
:::The point of a wiki is that people can edit things. If it's outdated, we should have a discussion to change it. Lucario, however, will be revamping some structure over the next not too long from now, so we should probably wait until that happens. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 00:39, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

== block name changes ==
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In the last update the if blocks changed their name and the forever if block was dropped.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 02:34, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
:Maybe we should wait for a while to see if they keep the changes; occasionally they'll just try something out and then revert it later. We don't want to be too hasty. <scratchsig>veggieman001</scratchsig> 03:20, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
::In general that is wise! And it is possible this could get reverted - but I think it's pretty unlikely. If I hear anything to that effect, I'll ping you guys. <scratchsig>Lightnin</scratchsig> 19:10, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

== Helpful? ==

I updated this a long time ago: http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Template:Nutshell
Is this a good template or should it get deleted (o.o)?
<br />
{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}} 02:36, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

:I think it can stay for now. I know it's used on Wikipedia quite a bit, and I can see it being used on the Scratch Wiki (though not sure where yet). Thought it would be nice if it was automatically centered. :) <scratchsig>Lucario621</scratchsig> 04:13, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
::Done.<scratchsig>Curiouscrab</scratchsig> 16:08, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

== New Curator ==

There is a new curator, StarscreamClone an admin needs to update the news. <scratchsig>Coinman</scratchsig> 22:36, 18 February 2013 (UTC)