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== Clarifications about EW election speeches ==
== Clarifications about EW election speeches ==

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Project Tags ;; Thoughts Appreciated

No Not done
If you may have noticed by now, I've started updating Project Tags. One thing I noticed is that we don't have problems with Waffles tags or [+] tag spam anymore, but do we have any trends in their place? For example (although obviously not true), is there a trend to use all caps in a tag?
So, has anyone seen any widespread trends involving project tags after Scratch 2.0 was released?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:07, 8 September 2014 (UTC)

ive seen people try to spell out a phrase with them, like hello, im, steve
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:08, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
I think the waffle spam is important.
-PRO- Logo2.png-PRO- (talk | contribs) 00:08, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
@-PRO-: I think it's important too, but I haven't seen it since Scratch 2.0 was released, so I'm thinking it should only be mentioned in Project Tags (1.4).
@KrIsMa: I haven't seen that yet either. Could you link to an example or two? Have other people seen people spelling out a phrase?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:13, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
I haven't really seen much on the 2.0 website since only the creator can add tags and they're limited to 3. However, on the old site I did see a lot of spam tags, such as "jvvg was here" (I never did that, but I don't want to point fingers), and "waffles" was everywhere.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:20, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
I agree that I saw lots of those spammy tags. Now that I think of it, wasn't there a report option for spammy/irrelevant tags, or am I imagining that?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:38, 9 September 2014 (UTC)
Yes, there was.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 14:25, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
Really? Because I've tried to flag a tag but I didn't know how. Do you report the entire project, or just the tag?
wolfpup500 (talk | contribs) 00:46, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Eug123 (talk | contribs)
Waffles... heh heh.

@Scimonster: Okay. I'd like to include an image of the tags section/report system into the Project Tags (1.4) article, but I can't find any. Do we have one?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 20:01, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
I think there's a small trend of putting your username as one of the 3 tags ;) I do it so people can find my projects on my test and main account through explore, and I've seen others do it, too.
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 05:30, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Okay! I'll look into posting this in the Questions about Scratch forum to see if I can get any examples and more verification about these trends, but my question to Sci still stands: I'd like to include an image of the tags section/report system into the Project Tags (1.4) article, but I can't find any. Do we have one?
Edit: I posted the topic! You can find it here.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:45, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Cool! It's well written.
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 23:56, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks derpmeup! :)
By the way, would you mind posting in the topic, and linking to one of your projects where a project tag is your username? That way whenever I cite the page, you could be part of the evidence.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:01, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 00:02, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @derpmeup: Thanks! @KrIsMa: KrIsMa, could you do that too if possible?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:05, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

No problem :)
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 00:28, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
Just want to point out that it would be very nice if Wiki editors also contributed to the topic above! Thank you!
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 19:14, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Election nominations

Here is the current list (in order of posting):

  • derpmeup
  • JayceeMinecraft
  • KrIsMa
  • -PRO-
  • Krett12
  • Jandrewg
  • TheHockeyist
  • SuperSmashScratch
  • Turkey3
  • Swampert11
  • Fmtfmtfmt2

Reply to this thread if you want to be nominated. Please just say you want to run, save your speeches for later. Nomination will close September 30, and the election will start soon after.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:15, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

I would like to nominate myself.--
Fmtfmtfmt2 (talk | contribs) 00:09, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Added you.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:16, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. --
Fmtfmtfmt2 (talk | contribs) 00:33, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Hey, fmt :) Nice to see you here
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 01:08, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
Hey, I've had an account for a while but I am just starting to become active.
Fmtfmtfmt2 (talk | contribs) 02:17, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Clarifications about EW election speeches

I notice some of you have already started writing speeches in the form of user subpages for the EW election. Please read this before making your own or adding to one you have:

  • There is no guarantee you will be running in the election, the existing EWs and admins have the final say over the list. As such, your speech may end up serving no purpose if you write it now.
  • Speeches are supposed to be in paragraph form. Specifically, that means one paragraph. See Scratch Wiki:Elections/September 2013 for speeches from the last election if you're not sure how long they should be. No speech should be any longer than Mathfreak231's.
  • Don't be aggressive in your speech. Saying you are more active than other users or comparing yourself to others in any way is not acceptable. Instead, just highlight some stuff you have done, but don't gloat about how you're better than others. Who is better is for the voters to decide.

So while you're welcome to get a jump on your speech, keep the above rules in mind. Failure to follow rule #3 will result in your speech being deleted without warning. Failure to follow rule #2 will require you to truncate your speech on the election page. Keep in mind that when you put your speech on the election page, you will not be allowed to include any links. The whole point is to be concise. Thank you.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:55, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't like the no links part. Then I could do something like this: View the full speech here
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 23:24, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
The whole point of the speech is to explain yourself in one paragraph. If you can't fit it in that paragraph, it's probably not important to potential voters.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:29, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Also, the election has been moved from November to October. The exact dates will be announced later. The nomination period will probably end September 30.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:33, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
Humm ok. I might be able to do that. Besides, even though I can name several reasons why it would only be fair for me to be on the list, I probably won't get in.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 23:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Why is the CP archived so fast ? Want at least one Thread back here!

Yes Done

Somebody has seemed to be very fast with achiving the CP...we just posted a few hours ago in this thread and want it back here, please! We also linked at it in the german wiki here de:GP#Artikel "Scratcher" and now this links are dead only a few hours later. As the CP-Archive here CPA73 is not editable, I have to ask here. Somebody else with fresh Threads that were archived to fast?

MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:00, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, it was big, and when looking at the list of threads I just looked at the subjects and tried to remember which ones were topics of discussion recently Anyway, brought it back.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:44, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for re-archiving the thread so fast :-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:23, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Linking to CP and CP-Archives very easy using Redirect pages

Yes Done

You can link very easy to CP-Articles and archived CP-Articles with Redirection pages, like we do it in the german Scratch-Wiki since a long time. To have this advantages also here I added CP and, for example CPA73. So you can now link to:

I hope you also find this usefull :-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:00, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't think this is really necessary. It is unnecessary redirects.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:41, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Also, all shortcuts need to start with S: We already have plenty of shortcuts for the CP (see the top for a list of them), and making a shortcut to every CP archive is not necessary.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:49, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Please show me a better way to create the links above, that are now red, after you deleted the redirects
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:19, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

SWT:CP#Linking to CP and CP-Archives very easy using Redirect pages
SWT:CP#Why is the CP archived so fast ? Want at least one Thread back here!
Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 73#Added_Indonesian_and_Russian
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:34, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

OK, you can write it a bit longer than we do it in the german wiki, that works:

but how do you link to articles in archives without complications?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:33, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

You just need to write the full thing out. Archives aren't linked to frequently enough that we really need shortcuts for them.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:35, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

OK, it was only a suggestion. You prefer to have ordered and only a few shortcuts, I prefer to have shortcuts as short and helpfull as possible. So it seems to depend on personal taste.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:50, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

It's not personal taste so much as Wiki policy (although I also prefer simplicity).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:57, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

Added Indonesian and Russian

No Not done

I added the Indonesian and Russian wikis to the interwiki. Their prefixes are "id" and "ru." Here's a page that's already connected to both of them.
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 03:26, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

I've been adding a lot of russian interwikis :)
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 03:27, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 03:29, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
@derpmeup: Same here. :)
@scmb1: Thanks scmb1! I'm glad to see the Scratch Wiki being offered in new languages now.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 03:32, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
I have a suggestion that I'm suggesting here because you're ST and why not (:P): On the footer, it just says Scratch Wiki under community. I was thinking - maybe take that out, and add a new section on the footer titled Wikis? And under it would be English with a link to this, ther would be a link to German under that, a link to Russian under that, and a link to Indonesian under that. I might post this in the Suggestions forum later, if you like this idea, feel free to pass it on to the rest of the Scratch Team. :)
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 03:47, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
Good idea! Perhaps it even would be better to link to the wiki of the language-menu-selection at the Scratch-Website. But perhaps we should wait, until there are more international scratch wikis...they actually seem to pop up like like mushrooms.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:58, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Cool! I just saw it. It's exciting how other languages are joining in! Thanks! :D
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 12:35, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
I added the "ru"-Interwiki-Link also to the German and the Indonesian Scratch-Wiki and "interwiki-connected" all versions of the "Scratcher-article (de:Scratcher, id:Scratcher, en:Scratcher, ru:Скретчер) I could edit in all languages: I don't have an account in the russian Scratch-Wiki now, so I couldn't connect "de"= German there. Who can do this? I'm looking forward to the next language-Group asking the DACH-Scratch-Wiki-people to help establishing their Scratch-Wiki (see: de:GP#Indonesian Scratch Wiki). Perhaps we will need an "Interwiki-bot" in the future, to set all "interwiki-back-links" automatically. I think in Wikipedia they have something like that. Who could build such an interwiki-backlink-bot?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 08:33, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps we could borrow the code for Wikipedia's inter wiki backlink bot.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 09:56, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
I have a bot that I think does the same thing except in a read-only way. I don't really think it should be moved up to writing just because I've seen so many exceptions on the German wiki alone.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 23:43, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
mathfreak231 - true, and frankly i really dont want to program another bot lol
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:14, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
mathfreak231 - what kind of exeptions do you mean? Do you meen the usage of Templates with Interwiki-Links? We could get rid of that...Have we to format the Interwiki-Links in a special way, so a bot will find it? Has it to be at the end of every article? The thing is: If we have n wikis and every international wiki sets an interwiki-link only to the same english article manually, that would implicit the n*(n-1) interwikilinks that could be done automatically, so by now: 4*(4-1)=12 and in a few month 20, 30, 42...in wikipedia with over 100 langugages that could be 9.900 interwikilinks....by the way...I found: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Interwiki_bot
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 15:46, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
@Martin: It has nothing to do with the placement or formatting of the link in the article; I could easily get around that. It's just that the German and English wikis aren't completely parallel and therefore there might be two pages on the English wiki that have a subject similar to one page on the German wiki, and because there can only be one language link per language per page, we have a problem. That's the kind of exception I mean.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 00:15, 26 September 2014 (UTC)