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So Sci just told me he thinks I ought to take a shot at being an admin. So...
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'''I'd like to be a Wiki admin.''' There, I said it.
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I'd make a good admin because:
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*My Wikipediholic score is 1480.
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* [[S:CPND#A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All]]
*I edit a lot, and have more edits than Lucario. I have made and rewritten many articles, including [[Squeak Tutorial]], my personal favorite. My grammar and knowledge about Scratch and programming are pretty good.
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*I'd like the shiny new tools like deleting, protecting, editing protected pages, adding to the Wiki editor army, and defending the Wiki from evil, mean-spirited spammers (*gasp*).
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* [[S:CPND#What should we call the Scratch 3.0 player?]]
*I'm a responsible Scratcher.
 
*Wiki Admin is a good title to flaunt. :D
 
  
I know I'm making a tall order, and I sincerely understand the responsibility I'm asking for. So thanks, and Scratch On! :)<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 15:38, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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==== About Wiki Management ====
:I think you would be a great admin. You have made many quality edits and are the non-admin editor with highest edit count.{{User:Bsteward/sig}}15:45, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
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::Since you mentioned that i suggested it, everyone knows my take on it. :P
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::Some points i'd like to point out:
 
::*Hardmath edits a lot, and edits more than Lucario.
 
::*He makes all good edits
 
::*He has the highest edit count of a non-admin, which is wrong, being 2500+.
 
::*He (used to, at least) reminds the admins to update the news, which he could do on his own
 
::And, that's it for now. No one can contest that you have a lot going for you. :) <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 15:59, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 
:I have no doubt that you'd make a great admin and would use the tools well (and that you have more edits that Lucario, but ''come on'', that's easy), but I feel like I need to ask the eternal question that everyone needs to answer: what, specifically, would you with do with the tools that are available to administrators to help the wiki that isn't already being done by the current admins who are pretty much on all the time due to their differing time-zones? <scratchsig>Veggieman001</scratchsig> 17:05, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 
::Well, the deleting is a simple tool which to be honest I wish I had just because I need it once in a while. Protecting pages is one which I think I would mainly use on templates which are used a lot, like [[Template:User]], and being able to edit protected pages is nice because I've been here for so long I know once in a while we do need to change a template for some reason. Also, as Sci stated above, I'd help out with the news and I'm pretty sure I'd keep it more informative than the current newsboard, because I'm very active on both the main site and forums. Also, I think the newsboard has deteriorated into just updates about curators and SDSs, and the occasional new mod. Having been on the Wiki for 436 days as of today, and not messing anything up that bad, you guys ''know'' you can trust me, don't you?<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 00:25, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
 
:::For me, even how you've been outside the wiki, as well as inside, should be sufficient reason to be sysop.  I hope you get it. :D.  This also makes me think that maybe sci or one of the other sysops should become a bureaucrat. <scratchsig>SJRCS_011</scratchsig> 00:30, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 
::::Thanks SJRCS_011 and Bsteward, I appreciate it. And yeah, Sci and Veggie would make great bureaucrats, too; I assumed they were when I first joined. :)<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 00:54, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 
:::IMO it doesn't really matter if you don't have a million cases in which you'd use those admin tools, because apart from creating archives and updating the front page there isn't much where they're needed. I barely ever delete things, like the only times I use those powers is to archive the community portal :P <scratchsig>Chrischb</scratchsig> 08:49, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 
:::I don't see any problems with you as an admin :P Being a sysop isn't really a big deal anyway. <scratchsig>Jonathanpb</scratchsig> 08:55, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 
:::{{quote2||However it should be noted that actions of a sysop user are (almost) entirely reversible, by other sysop users, and so it can be a good idea to dish out these extra permissions to a number of users in order to
 
*spread the workload of day-to-day sysop operations such as blocking vandals and deleting pages.
 
*make things more democratic, and decrease any perception of a single dictator running the community
 
*allow competent users the power they need to make progress with wiki refactoring.
 
*reward valued contributors/community members|[[Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats]]}}
 
:::I think that once an user had contributed greatly to wiki, and has shown him/herself to be trustworthy editor, he/she should be promoted to sysop/admin. {{User:Bsteward/sig}}14:40, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 
::::Good find, Bsteward. (Hardmath is a boy btw.)
 
::::Also, let me remind Luc how i became a sysop, without even requesting... {{quote2|Lucario|He has been a very active editor recently, with over 2000 edits, and certainly has many uses for the administrative tools. Keep up the good work.|[[Special:Log/rights|User rights log]]}}
 
::::2000 edits at that time was more than Lucario, a bill Hardmath fits today. Very active editor? Check. Uses for the tools? Check. Reasons against? ._. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 14:47, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 
::::So...?<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 11:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::I still don't see that you've given very good reasons. The first and last are quite irrelevant, you likely wouldn't be able to "add to the Wiki editor army", and there hasn't been any spamming & the only offences ever have been minor-ish vandalism which can still be cleaned up as a regular use. I don't really get why we'd need another admin for the news; we already have the active admins (me, Luc, Sci) and semi-active admins (Chris & Jon) able to do that. Any significant changes to the news require discussion first, anyway, which all of the wiki editors participate in. It just seems like more of a security risk especially on such a small wiki like this. <scratchsig>Veggieman001</scratchsig> 03:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 
::::::You forgot WeirdF :P <scratchsig>Chrischb</scratchsig> 05:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::::I don't consider him active. <scratchsig>Veggieman001</scratchsig> 14:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::Alright, I admit you don't need another sysop; you're right. But do I really need to prove I need the tools to be granted them? Isn't that kind of like asking users to prove they ''need'' to edit the Wiki to give them accounts? According to the quote Bsteward posted (BTW thanks, I appreciate it), sysop-ship seems to be both a reward and a responsibility. I'm not asking for just the title, but I just want to point out it's not entirely about just having a good use for the tools. Again, as a couple of sysops have posted above, they don't even use their powers that much. Finally, I don't see it as a "security risk", because I consider myself a responsible person on the whole. :/
 
  
:::::Looking up at the discussion, it seems like Sci, SJRCS_011, BSteward are for, Chrischb and Jonathanpb are neutral ''(edit: Janathanpb is for)'' and you seem to be against. I think I'll ask Lucario to give the final verdict, since WeirdF is (I believe) inactive.
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:::::P.S. I'm not going to be really upset if you don't promote me, since I honestly didn't consider it until Sci encouraged me. Maybe I'll be a bit disappointed, but that's it. :)<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 11:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
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===== Rules =====
::::::Hardmath deserves the powers more than inactive or semi-active admins though... it's kinda unfair how some admins aren't very active and get to be a sysop while Hardmath is active and doesn't get it :/ (I'm for Hardmath being a sysop btw, count me in :P) <scratchsig>Jonathanpb</scratchsig> 00:34, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
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:::::::Thanks Jonathanpb. Lucario? We haven't head from you yet...<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 11:16, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
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'''Reasons for Hardmath123 being admin:'''
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* [[S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use]]
*My Wikipediholic score is 1480. {{-}} Hardmath123
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* [[S:CPND#Relax S:NOSP even more]]
*I edit a lot, and have more edits than Lucario. I have made and rewritten many articles, including [[Squeak Tutorial]], my personal favorite. My grammar and knowledge about Scratch and programming are pretty good. {{-}} Hardmath123
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*I'd like the shiny new tools like deleting, protecting, editing protected pages, adding to the Wiki editor army, and defending the Wiki from evil, mean-spirited spammers (*gasp*). {{-}} Hardmath123
 
*I'm a responsible Scratcher. {{-}} Hardmath123
 
*Wiki Admin is a good title to flaunt. :D {{-}} Hardmath123
 
*You have made many quality edits and are the non-admin editor with highest edit count. {{-}} Bsteward
 
*Hardmath edits a lot, and edits more than Lucario. {{-}} Scimonster
 
*He makes all good edits {{-}} Scimonster
 
*He has the highest edit count of a non-admin, which is wrong, being 2500+. {{-}} Scimonster
 
*He (used to, at least) reminds the admins to update the news, which he could do on his own {{-}} Scimonster
 
*Well, the deleting is a simple tool which to be honest I wish I had just because I need it once in a while. {{-}} Hardmath123
 
*Protecting pages is one which I think I would mainly use on templates which are used a lot {{-}} Hardmath123
 
* Having been on the Wiki for 436 days as of today, and not messing anything up that bad, you guys know you can trust me {{-}} Hardmath123
 
*'''actions of a sysop user are (almost) entirely reversible, by other sysop users, and so it can be a good idea to dish out these extra permissions to a number of users''' {{-}} [[Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats]]
 
*spread the workload of day-to-day sysop operations such as blocking vandals and deleting pages. {{-}} [[Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats]]
 
*make things more democratic, and decrease any perception of a single dictator running the community {{-}} [[Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats]]
 
*allow competent users the power they need to make progress with wiki refactoring. {{-}} [[Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats]]
 
*'''reward valued contributors/community members''' {{-}} [[Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats]]
 
*2000 edits at that time was more than Lucario, a bill Hardmath fits today. {{-}} Scimonster
 
*Hardmath deserves the powers more than inactive or semi-active admins though... it's kinda unfair how some admins aren't very active and get to be a sysop while Hardmath is active and doesn't get it :/ {{-}} Jonathanpb
 
'''Reasons against Hardmath123 being admin:'''
 
*IMO it doesn't really matter if you don't have a million cases in which you'd use those admin tools, because apart from creating archives and updating the front page there isn't much where they're needed. {{-}} Chrischb
 
*I still don't see that you've given very good reasons. {{-}} Veggieman001
 
*Any significant changes to the news require discussion first, anyway, which all of the wiki editors participate in. {{-}} Veggieman001
 
'''My Comment:''' A discussion is not required to update for an SDS or Scratch Curator
 
*It just seems like more of a security risk especially on such a small wiki like this. {{-}} Veggieman001
 
'''My Comment:''' actions of a sysop user are (almost) entirely reversible, by other sysop users
 
  
Although this list is a little biased, it seems that there are a lot more reasons for Hardmath to be an admin then him to not be one. I would like to see what a bureaucrat thinks about this.{{User:Bsteward/sig}}15:28, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
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===== Interwiki =====
:Wow, i see you did some nice work there, Bsteward. Luc said he needed JSO to have a discussion about whether to do it. I haven't seen JSO on Scratch in a while though. :S <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 15:34, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
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:I was responding to when Hardmath said "Also, I think the newsboard has deteriorated into just updates about curators and SDSs, and the occasional new mod." Those are the only reasons we update the news now, so if we were to change it to another format with more things then it would require discussion. <scratchsig>Veggieman001</scratchsig> 23:24, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 
:Wow, that really seems to put stuff into perspective. Thanks a lot, Bsteward, if I do become admin you're over 40% responsible. :) I suppose we just wait until Lucario and JSO think it over.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 00:43, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 
:Lol, that bit where I said "IMO it doesn't really matter if you don't have a million cases in which you'd use those admin tools" I meant that as a reason for hardmath to be admin :P When posting that I was saying that I thought he should be an admin even if he doesn't need to use the tools a lot xD I guess it could be taken both ways though, but posting this to say I meant it that way <scratchsig>Chrischb</scratchsig> 11:09, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 
  
== Replacing FAQ forum with Wiki FAQ ==
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Here's an idea: What if we moved all of the FAQs from the forums here, and wrote some more of our own? We could add subcategories to [[:Category:FAQ]], and also add an FAQ section to the main TOC. It would be sort of like the tutorials, i guess. We could also have a template, as proposed [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 19#The FAQ Thing.|here]]. What do people think of it? <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 14:57, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
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:I like the idea of replacing the FAQ forum with a wiki page. But we'd need to figure out the workflow before implementing.
 
:For example, right now someone makes a thread, and then someone says: "Hey, that's useful! It should be in the FAQ." If mods agree, it gets moved to the FAQ forum.
 
:In then new model, somebody makes a thread, someone says it should be FAQ'ed and then __?___ happens to contact / suggest it to wikian FAQ maintainers. If they agree, then they write an entry that summarizes the useful info. Should mods edit the first post on the thread and say "We added info from this thread to the Wiki FAQ (with a link.)? (I dunno myself if this would be a good plan - what do you guys think / recommend?) Also, what should be done about all the threads currently in the FAQ forum? (Btw, I made a minor edit to title for clarity)<scratchsig>Lightnin</scratchsig> 15:05, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::It could be a good idea. It would be extremely hard. But, we could do it. @Lightin, I like your idea of editing the first post and saying that the question is now in the Scratch Wiki. But then, what is the point of the FAQ forum.<scratchsig>Joletole</scratchsig> 15:35, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::It's a cool idea! Here's how I think we should implement it: we first make a WikiProject kind of thing where all FAQs currently at the forums are rewritten on the Wiki. Then we get an admin to archive the FAQ forums for us, and instead make a sticky under "Questions About Scratch" called "FAQs" which links to the Wiki page and lets users suggest FAQ topics. About the Wiki page itself, my personal opinion is that we use a question-answer format, so we list all the questions at the top, and they link to anchors lower down on the page with the answers. (Of course, the answers would have a link to top).<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 15:49, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::::I don't think it should be single page; that would get way too crowded. 74+ pages would work much better IMO.
 
::::@Lightnin: Due to the fact that both Lucario and i are both mods and active wiki editors, there should be a good chance of it getting caught in a report. And if they have a wiki account, they can of course just make it by themselves.
 
::::A problem is, how do we know it's authentic? In the forum setup, if you see a post by an admin, you expect that to be the true answer. In a wiki though, where contributors aren't shown on the page, though, what do we do? <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 16:02, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::You could protect the answers...
 
:::::P.S. Are you getting server errors on the main site? 503's in particular?<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 16:04, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::::::But then it couldn't be improved. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 16:15, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::::::Or, you could say who answered the question. Like you could say "Lucario621 answered this question." That way, people know that it came from someone they trust. (sorry Luc that I used your name, you just the first mod that popped into my head). Oh, and yeah, I am getting a lot of server errors.<scratchsig>Joletole</scratchsig> 16:17, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::Isn't that the point? If a mod posts an answer on the forums, nobody can change it either, but those are usually ''good in the first place''. You can't have it both ways, allowing users to improve an answer ''and'' preventing them from changing it so that its accuracy is compromised. I would personally vote for the prior, because the Wiki should be as free as possible, and we always have rollbacks.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 16:28, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::Or, we could ''quote'' the Scratch Team in answers rather than framing them ourselves.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 16:29, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::If the answer is posted on the original forum topic, so then it could easily be referenced. But if we write other FAQs that weren't first brought up there, we wouldn't have that. (Though how could they be ''F''AQs?) <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 07:41, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::::First off, sorry if I don't get the indentation / Wiki etiquette right (and feel free to correct me.:) Seems like a lot of issues have been raised above - I'll try to address them all and suggest what seems best to me. Hardmath123 - I like your plan to move FAQ thread content to the wiki, after which we archive it and put a FAQ sticky in Questions about Scratch. Q/A format seems good.  We really like the way Vimeo did their FAQ, so we're thinking of making a main site FAQ page that's very similar. http://vimeo.com/help/faq/general_vimeo_questions . It might be useful if the wiki uses a similar format. Maybe we'll index the wiki FAQ page so it can appear on the main 2.0 site support page search engine results. A single FAQ page with anchors for each entry seems best to me (like Vimeo's model). re: edit privs. I'm for the open wikipedia model. If someone is making bad edits, revert and then teach them to do better / ask them to stop. re: Quoting ST answers. That's not necessary. You guys are wiki editors! Make your own, acknowledge mistakes and criticism, and then refine your answers.  <scratchsig>Lightnin</scratchsig> 20:03, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::When replying, you add one extra indentation to show the reply.
 
:::::My problem with that is the page length. We have 74 FAQ topics on the forums, some of which are pretty long (such as the moderator summaries). To put that all on one page just seems like too much to me. Besides, i'm always looking for ways to boost our article count ({{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} right now). xP
 
:::::The entire wiki should be indexed by the Scratch search engine!
 
:::::I agree with keeping it open. The only protected pages are really the main page, pages transcluded there, and some high-risk templates ({{t|!}} {{t|*}} {{t|-}} etc).
 
:::::About quoting ST answers; some of it is stuff that really should come from an administrator though. Such as stuff about the administration policies (''What does the Scratch Team do when they find something inappropriate?'' for example). <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 12:17, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::::::Interesting (about the indenting). How do you deal with the mega-indent problem? (We didn't like it on main site with comments, which is one reason we only do single indents in 2.0.)
 
::::::Re: page length. I would suggest making much more concise FAQ entries, a paragraph or two at most. I suspect most of the FAQ threads, when mined for the important facts, contain a few sentences of useful info. To me, one of the main benefits of this project would be to provide concise versions of the info on the threads. If people want more detail after reading the FAQ entry, you can link them back to the thread. (And yes, we are thinking of indexiing the whole wiki in the search, btw. So if you want to do separate pages, that could work too, although searchers will be less likely to stumble upon other entries that might be relevant to their search.)
 
::::::Re: stuff coming from admins. Just ask if you have questions, and feel free to quote as I've seen you often do. But I don't think it's always necessary to use direct quotes. <scratchsig>Lightnin</scratchsig> 14:38, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::::So i have a compromising idea. We can make a few pages with several FAQs in a category. If there is one that should be elaborated, we can summarize it on the page, and add a {{t|main}} link to it.
 
:::::::And we rarely actually use quotes; just summarize them and reference. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 17:03, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::@Lightnin: I made a mockup FAQ over [[User:Hardmath123/Sandbox/faqtest|here]]. It's based on the Vimeo one you linked with chenges to match the Wiki theme. The #linking works, too (if you want mouse-hover-darkening, an admin needs to edit some protected CSS). Enjoy! :)<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 14:01, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::::Cool mockup! A minor technical improvement i might suggest: instead of using the "#"s, use a standard level 4 header, with the underline added. That way it will appear in a TOC for linking. Maybe you could also include a small thing at the bottom, floated right, ''link directly to this section'' with the hash code. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 14:31, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::Good idea, I'll get right on it. :D<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 14:53, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::Update: I right-aligned it and gave it a tooltip.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 14:56, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::::Lookin' good to me! Maybe you should summarize a couple threads worth of stuff, and ask everyone for feedback on how it's looking? <scratchsig>Lightnin</scratchsig> 15:03, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::Great! I'll summarize a few (they do need summarization) and see how it looks. :D<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 13:36, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::: Cool mockup Hardmath123 - it looks like you put a lot of work into it! Your example looks concise and well written. However, in my opinion, we don't really need the specially designed boxes, font colors, font sizes, and gradients. I think it would be much simpler (for both reading and editing) if we followed the general style of the wiki, as used in [[S:FAQ]]. It might not be as special or fancy, but people might be linking to the FAQ and referencing it often as a resource, and over-complicating the formatting isn't necessary. The only difference from S:FAQ I would make though, is a more customized table of contents, to make it easier to switch between categories of questions - like the one used on Vimeo. I think it's best to keep things simple with a larger project like this, rather than making things too advanced. :) <scratchsig>Lucario621</scratchsig> 04:14, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::... but... that sounds so ''boring''! :P
 
  
:::::Seriously, though, a bit of formatting shouldn't hurt. It's a simple template, and I intentionally kept formatting to a minimum. I agree about a better table of contents. If someone lets me into the Wiki's CSS (not inline styles, that's a technical limitation) I can set up a cool little all-CSS menu which uses the hover pseudo-protocol to detect where the mouse is. Alternatively, we could just have a simple little collapsible navbox or Wikitable with links to all the questions, organized by category.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 09:36, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
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::::::Sorry, but i happen to agree with Lucario on this one. A styled TOC only would be good. The mockup you made though is a little too bright. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 18:55, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
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:::::::<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh* The TOC is ''not'' done yet. Did you really expect me to have red and blue as a color scheme? Ugh!
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:::::::About the question boxes, I'm still not convinced. Having a simple template like that makes it easier to add/edit entries (there is practically no formatting code, just a simple template). It makes anchoring easier, and we can put in a "back to top" link quite easily in all the boxes, which I personally think it important in any FAQ list. Having a clickable link title which links  to that question's anchor (like what you see on each forum post's timestamp) makes linking to questions really easy, all you need to do is right-click the title and copy. Also, the gradient-box looks very Scratchy, doesn't it? I thought that was a rather cool looking bit of formatting. I suppose I could remove the box and just have the header+text, but that seems a bit bland, don't you think? I mean, compare [this http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Support/Scratch_FAQ] to mine.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 05:49, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
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::::::::Lol. It looks nice now. Lightnin likes it too.
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::::::::There are only two questions now. a) Do we use 1 big page with everything, or a few shorter pages with general categories. b) What happens to the current FAQs in [[:Category:FAQ]]?
 
::::::::a) I like several short pages. b) Some of them could stay, such as [[How Do I Get My Projects to Become Popular?]] and [[Which Forum Does My Post Go In?]], but [[Is There a File Size Limit for a Project?]] doesn't seem quite significant enough with these. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 17:31, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:Resuscitated discussion. I vote for one long page, as FAQs traditionally are. It seems unethical to intentionally bump up our article count.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 13:43, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::I removed it from the archive so that we won't have duplicate archives.
 
::So you're going for traditionalism? That's boring. It's also a very long page. The wiki used to give a warning if a page was longer than a certain amount of bytes, saying that some people could have trouble with it. If we took, even summarizing, the 74 FAQs from the forums, and the others from the [http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Support/Scratch_FAQ official FAQ page] (which is 42.5 KB), how long would it be? It would be difficult for people who have the technical abilities to find the right part to edit... And i like the growing article count. If we're doing it legitimately, i think it's fine. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig>
 
:::Fine, how about we make a new page for each ''category'', but not each FAQ? (see my TOC/mockup for what I mean)<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 15:03, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::P.S. This discussion is getting huge... is there some way to shrink the top? Are we allowed to make a subheading in the middle to make editing easier?<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 15:04, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:: I personally think that the FAQ page should be organized as Hardmath123 suggested, with one page for each category. It seems like the most practical solution for the number of FAQ questions we will probably have. The article count on the wiki is irrelevant to this decision. <scratchsig>Lucario621</scratchsig> 04:13, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Oh, i didn't mean a page for each FAQ; i eventually agreed that we didn't need that. I meant a page for each category, like you guys think. Sorry for the misunderstanding. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 07:56, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::::''Sub''page, yes.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 10:26, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::I don't really love subpages. ''Scratch Program FAQ'', ''Scratch Forums FAQ'', etc sounds better to me. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 10:42, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 
::Subpages should be fine. After all, I don't think these FAQ pages should appear when the "Random Page" button is clicked (except for the one with the table of contents). <scratchsig>Lucario621</scratchsig> 22:07, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::How does this look (formatting-wise) so far? [[User:Hardmath123/Sandbox/faqtest]]<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 10:37, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Subpages appear in random page. And why not?
 
:::@Hardmath: Looking good. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 12:22, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
 
Hey - I have an idea! So, everyone is saying that the FAQ page would be too hard to fit onto one page, so why not fit it onto multiple pages. Like so: On the first page, the name of it would be Frequently Asked Questions (Page 1). Then, 10 questions would go on that page. And on the bottom of that page, there will be a link say: "Page 2>" Which will link to a page called Frequently Asked Questions (Page 2), then on that page would be ten questions. And on the bottom of the page would be two links, one say "<Page 1" Which leads to page 1, and another saying "Page 3>." Probably all the stickys would be on Page 1, and all the old FAQ that is in the back of the FAQ forum would be on the last page. (Sorry for writing so much, I just tried to add as much detail as posible without giving a full essay :P). Tell me what you think of this idea. <scratchsig>Joletole</scratchsig> 19:01, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 
:That's pretty similar to what we were thinking, except we were going to organize by category. :) <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 19:09, 2 July 2012 (UTC)
 
: I brought this discussion back from the archive, since I still think it's quite relevant. :) <scratchsig>Lucario621</scratchsig> 19:48, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
 
::"Bump" :/ This seems to have died out...<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 10:18, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 
:::You're right... What say we do it next week? Someone can create a WikiProject about it, that summarizes what we'll do, then next week we go to it. (I chose next week because i'm not available for all this work this week, and i wouldn't like to miss this! <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 10:57, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
 
:Let's not rush things too much scimonster. There's still a lot of things we have to decide upon before we can start moving stuff to the FAQ.
 
:*How will everything be formatted? I think the system we decided upon is to have one central page with a table of contents, and that page would have subpages that contain the questions and answers. The answers should probably be between one sentence and three (small) paragraphs long. Does this seem reasonable?
 
:*What categories of questions will we contain? As there will be two FAQS in Scratch 2.0 (one on the main website managed by the Scratch Team, and one managed by the wiki), we want to make sure they do not cover the same topics. We can probably work on brainstorming a list soon.
 
:If we can answer those questions soon, then we can (probably) start working on the actual FAQ. <scratchsig>Lucario621</scratchsig> 18:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 
::It had just been sitting here for a couple months...
 
::@1: yes. @2: Maybe we should duplicate, some at least? If they are directly related to the categories. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 09:02, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
 
  
== Possible News Event ==
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| 8 August 2018
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| 400 Bad Request<br/>503 Service Unavailable
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| I was editing [[User:Kenny2scratch/common.js]], and when I clicked "save page" I hit a "400 Bad Request" error. I pressed the browser "back" button (thanks Chrome for caching form data), and clicked "save page" again, and I encountered "503 Service Unavailable". I went back again, resubmitted, and the edit went through.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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| 10:26 AM, 3 September 2018 (GMT)
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| Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties
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| I clicked on random page{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
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| 5:27 PM, 3 September 2018 (HKT)
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| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties"
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| I was literally attempting to edit this section. When I clicked the "edit" link, it brought me to a page that said:
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:You can try searching Google in the meantime.<br/><small>Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.</small>
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The SDS Curator system just moved to a 4-month rotational system (along with permanent curators), and two new curators were added (JustAnotherFace and angelica101). Is this newsworthy enough for a spot on the main page? <scratchsig>Technoboy10</scratchsig> 12:09, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
:I never heard anything about this until just now. Who are the permanents?
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:I think it's OK, but i want someone else's opinion first. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 12:13, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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| 10:44 AM, 2 October 2018 (GMT)
::It's all of us SDS Curators who were active before the rotations started. We get to train the regular DS curators before they officially start. So, ATM, it's you, JJROCKER, stevetheipad, and me. <scratchsig>Technoboy10</scratchsig> 12:19, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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| 508 Resource Limit Reached
:::Just one thing: Do i really get counted as active? That's generous. Also, all mods have SDS permissions, so do i still need to be counted? (And you removed poopo from the list. Did he, the first SDS curator that i know of, retire?) <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 12:27, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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| Edit a user's talk page{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
::::Yep, as of now you do. I haven't seen sparks active in a long while, and I think I only saw pokemongardevoir once in the time I've been a curator, let alone poopo or lilacfuzz101. <scratchsig>Technoboy10</scratchsig> 12:35, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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| Trying to create a redirect page. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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| 9:12 AM, 4 January 2019 (CST) <br/> 9:17 AM, 4 January 2019 (EST)
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| "Service Unavailable Error [...]<br/>503 Service Unavailable Error"<br/>"508 Resource Limit Reached"
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| Trying to enter my talk, kept refreshing until worked, came to CP to log fault. Errors repeated until worked. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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| 15:02:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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| Fatal exception of type DBQueryError
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| I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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| Trying to go to [[How to Make a Typewriter Effect]]. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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| Clicked the ''Show preview'' button while editing [[User:TenType/Header]], when it did not preview and received the error. Clicking the button again resolved the issue. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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| 11:00 PM, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
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| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."
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<big>'''Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.'''</big><br/>Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.<br/><small>(Cannot access the database)</small>
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| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."
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| Tried to navigate to my userpage from another article, and got [https://ibb.co/qMqwN4M the error].{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 13:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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| 2020-04-02 13:26:04: Fatal exception of type DBQueryError
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| Pressed the edit box on the wiki sandbox. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 13:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
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| Sometime around 22:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
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:Could we have a dedicated page to that?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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::Nah, just here is fine.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
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:::{{not done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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::::If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. <small>(archives)</small> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Not too many right now.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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::::::{{not done|Never done!}} Server faults will always come. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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::::::Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|::::::}}
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It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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:Do we not have [[Scratch_Wiki:Known_Bugs|this?]]{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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::Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).
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::Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::There are kinda a lot of faults now, I believe we should create another page for it. <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 16:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  
: I'm not sure if this is newsworthy (yet), because I don't see where this has been mentioned on the main Scratch Website. After all, the Scratch Team's info page about curators [http://info.scratch.mit.edu/SDS_Curators here] hasn't changed at all - and there's no announcement topic about it. If there's any posts about this by the ST or Curator team though, it would definitely help. :) <scratchsig>Lucario621</scratchsig> 20:06, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
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== List of deleted pages ==
::Well, there's this post about it... xP
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{{not done}}
::I asked on the "SDS curator discussion board" (aka http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Lightnin/2133983), and Lightnin was explaining to me how it'll work. I just asked when this was/will be implemented, and now i'm waiting for an answer. <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 08:05, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
 
  
== Template:Wiki Standards ==
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(Brought up here after discussion [[User talk:Jammum#About your Deleted Pages page|here]].)
  
I think this is a very useful template to put on articles. It clearly indicates that an article needs improvement, with the reason being for poor formatting and wiki markup - which is usually quite easy to fix. However I think there are some ways this template can be improved.
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So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:
*Change the color - I personally think that since this template is very similar to {{t|stub}} and {{t|expand}} in the sense that it's encouraging users to improve upon articles, it should colored blue, like the others.
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* [[User:Mathfreak231/Deleted pages recovery|Mathfreak231's]], which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
*Categorize the articles its used on - I think it would be great since if there are new wiki editors who are wondering where they can help on the wiki, it would be a useful place to start. Although clicking "Random Page" and looking for problems can suffice for some, improving a bare-bones article to a greater version is very rewarding, and would motivate newcomers to edit more - especially as its a simpler task. For example, [http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/index.php?title=The_Bit_Company&oldid=47004 this article] could use some editing help - and a new member could easily see "Oh, I can add bullet points to the list of members... and add an extra sentence to this section", or if they're more experienced, "This could use the {{t|collaboration}} template!"
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* [[User:kenny2scratch/Deleted pages recovery|Mine]], which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
What are your thoughts on these ideas? Please leave them as a response below. :) <scratchsig>Lucario621</scratchsig> 03:08, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
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* [[User:Jammum/Deleted Pages|Jammum's Deleted Pages]], which are more recent than either of the above
:Another big reason i add it to articles is if it's written like a form post, not an encyclopedic wiki article, such as <span class="plainlinks">[http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/index.php?title=Make_Better_Cartoons&oldid=47208 Make Better Cartoons]</span>. (Maybe you should add plainlinks to your "external link"? :))
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* [[User:Jammum/All Pages That Have Been Deleted|Jammum's All Deleted Pages]], which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)
:As for the color, i debated it, but decided that it also a "bad page" template and should be more eyecatching. Stub and expand usually mean it's a article that has some content, generally written OK, but could use more. At least, that's how i see it.
 
:I suppose categorizing should be done. I think i made the template at a time when we were debating auto-categorization.
 
:Oh, and since you pointed it out, i might as well go clean up [[The Bit Company]]. ;P <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 08:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 
::I added the bullets for you. :)
 
::Anyway, I agree with Lucario here. Not matching Wiki standards is more of a "do something here" than a "serious problem here". It should tell you to fix it, not inform you it needs to be, if that makes an ounce of sense.<scratchsig>Hardmath123</scratchsig> 11:24, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Huh?
 
:::Yeah, makes sense. :) <scratchsig>Scimonster</scratchsig> 11:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
 
I changed the template based on what Lucario said.{{User:Bsteward/sig}}
 
  
== New curator ==
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I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]].
  
The news needs to be updated. <scratchsig>Coinman</scratchsig> 22:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
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;Advantages
:Thanks for notifying us! I've updated the news. :) (Also thanks for updating the Curator article.) <scratchsig>Lucario621</scratchsig> 04:13, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
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* More organized
::Your welcome.<scratchsig>Coinman</scratchsig> 14:23, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
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* One place for all
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* Can be updated by anyone
  
== I've cracked the Disappearing Text Bug! ==
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;Disadvantages
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:''None I can think of off the top of my head''
  
I think we've resolved the [[Disappearing Text Bug]]. It turns out that it's '''not''' actually a bug in the Scratch program, but an issue with [[wikipedia:Windows (system)|the Windows server]], and Ubuntu Linux. Here are some clues:
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Thoughts? Shall we do it?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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:I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::+1 :) {{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::: Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?  <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::: I think the page will not be notable enough to go there. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::::I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]]. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}I say aye.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
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:@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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:: Are we going to do this? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::Okay, I just created a page called [[User:TenType/Deleted Files]], was scrolling through the Community Portal, and found this discussion. {{e|:/}} <br/> Maybe this page could contain pages only and not files? (I really spent a lot of time and effort onto my deleted files page) Anyways, still waiting for a response on whether or not this project will be started. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
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::::Why not? It sounds like a great idea; let's get started. How do you guys find deleted pages anyway (just wondering)? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 15:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
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::::Why hasn't this happened yet? :P <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 16:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  
* I never get the bug or a similar issue on Mac OS X, and neither does [[User:Joletole|Joletole]]. :)
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== Welcome templates ==
* A similar issue happened on Word 2003 at BB6, room 110. :O
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{{done}}
* Some Scratchers got the bug in pre-1.3 versions, such as 1.0.1. :(
 
* It can happen on Linux. :(
 
* One Scratcher got an issue related to disappearing ''images''! :O
 
  
So Scratch 2.0 probably ''won't'' fix/avoid the bug. The bug might just be less effective. <scratchsig>3sal2</scratchsig> 16:11, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
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A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:
:It will fix the bug, because the issue is with Windows/Linux ''and'' Squeak. This issue does not happen with Flash. <scratchsig>Veggieman001</scratchsig> 16:29, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
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: Although I'm glad to see this new info that can possibly be added to the Disappearing Text Bug article, this is a post that best fits in the forums. The community portal is for discussing wiki questions/comments/issues, and not general Scratch topics. <scratchsig>Lucario621</scratchsig> 03:11, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
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[[File:That's a lot of welcomes.PNG]]
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10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?
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To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.
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I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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:I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea {{E|:)}} I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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::I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can {{e|:D}}? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::[[User talk:StampDanFan|It has happened again...]]{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different?? <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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:Can't we make a User_talk:ACCEPTEDUSER/Welcomes page?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 20:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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::That doesn't actually cause a ping tho...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::We could make it ping though if there is someone willing to mess with the code...{{User:Smileycreations15/sig}} 11:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::I was just scrolling through the CP, and this caught my eye. Great idea, I definitely think this needs to be considered. I understand that people are just trying to be kind by sending the welcome messages, but it would almost be like a horror film for the person who owns the account. I think 4-5 welcome templates are enough, but I think there needs to be a break between even those. Getting 4-5 welcomes in a couple of seconds is also not the best of ideas.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 17:55, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::::We should ask new users for their opinion on this right after they get the welcomes. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 00:06, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
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::::::I think 4-5 is a good limit. I personally liked getting welcomes, but I only got 3 of them. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 14:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
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:::::::I'm a fairly new user, and I got 4 welcomes.  It seemed fine for me, so I agree that 4-5 sounds like a good limit. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 01:23, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|7}}How about one or two users post a template, or we just use the automatic one at the top, and then people below can put encouraging words (not large templates) followed by a sig? This would not be too much for the user, but still shows lots of people are there to support them!{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
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:: Maybe we can create a welcome template, and a bot automatically adds it for every new user.  Any user edit it (just like an article). Maybe there could be in it for all the users that contributed.
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:: {{#ifeq:|nobr|<br/>|}}[[File:VFDan.png|20px|link=User:VFDan]]{{nbsp}}{{link style|User:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=VFDan}}{{nbsp}}<span style="border: 2px solid cyan; border-radius:1px 0 0 10px">{{nbsp}}{{link style|User talk:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Talk}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;">{{nbsp}}{{link style|Special:Contributions/VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Contribs}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;border-radius:0px 10px 1px 0px">{{nbsp}}<span class="plainlinks">{{User:12944qwerty/CPL|link=https://scratch.mit.edu/users/VFDan|text=On Scratch&nbsp;|color:orange;font-weight:bold}}</span></span>  19:21, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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:::[[S:GOODSIG|Please fix your signature!]]
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:::No, the point of each user having their own welcome template is for them to be specific to the user welcoming - a different message for each one. If they just wanted to add their name to a stock welcome they could reply to the {{t|welcome}} message added by default. However, 10 users posting personalized welcomes is a lot of different welcomes to read - which is why it needs limiting.
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:::Seems like 4-5 is the limit we've agreed on; for the sake of looseness, '''the limit is now 5 welcome messages at most on any new user's talk page''' (not including the {{t|welcome}} message; does not apply to users created before this decision).
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:::@Nambaseking01: Limiting the rate of welcomes is a separate topic that should be proposed separately.
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:::This topic is now {{done|[[S:USERSPACE#User talk pages|Done]]}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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== Block Problems ==
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{{Not done|Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken}}<br />
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Today I started to finish up the script for [[How to Evaluate an Expression]], and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else {{-}} it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in ''Show preview'' mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/292813/ this forum topic]? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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:The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
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::You can use [https://scratchblocks.github.io this page].<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...
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::::@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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== New Featured Images ==
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{{done}}
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Hey! Soon, on August 12th, it'll have been a month since we updated the Featured Images yet. This time, I don't want to do them late like I have in the past, so does anyone have any suggestions? {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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:A photo of somewhere tropical. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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::I don't understand - is this a joke (if it isn't, I'm not trying to offend; simply trying to understand)? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::It is. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::: The _:))_ emoji. Looks nice and funny.<scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 01:23, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::::You mean literally feature the {{e|:)}} picture? I guess that works LOL
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:::::I'd suggest [[:File:Statistic Rollover Info.png]] because it looks cool and has a random interesting piece of info :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:42, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::::It's been August 12th, does that mean this discussion is now for the next featured image change? Or can this be archived?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 18:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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== Giving Credit on the Wiki ==
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{{done}}
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I think that we should make a template for credit like this: {{User:Scratch-Coding/credit|Scratch-Coding |template}}. It would be helpful. We could use the remix button image instead of the one I have. {{User:Scratch-Coding/Signature}} 00:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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:When and where will it be used? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 01:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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::What would you use this for, and why? The wiki is a collaboration and we all own a part of it. No one owns a article unless they created it on there userspace where they can so whatever they want with it.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 01:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::Templates are mainly created for mainspace Wiki articles {{-}} when and why would this be needed? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::It would be used on userspaces, giving credit for a image, and giving credit for an example. <scratchsig>Scratch-Coding</scratchsig> 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::::You can use it on your userspace but I don't think it's necessary. Btw: What did you do to your signature? It's broken.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::::This wouldn't be that beneficial to the Wiki, especially if it is mostly used on userspace. I still disagree. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent | 6}} Who would use it? <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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:Yeah, I don't think this is necessary. If you need to credit someone you don't need a template. Furthermore, you wouldn't need to credit anyone on mainspace, this is collaborative and we don't get/need credit for what we write here.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
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::Giving credit is not needed in mainspace and can be done manually:<br>
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[[File:remix notice 3.0.png|100px]] Credit to [[User:Scratch-Coding|Scratch-Coding]] for this template.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:41, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
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:::Let's go ahead and consider this {{done}}.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 17:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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== Tinkercad Codeblocks ==
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Tinkercad has a new feature called Codeblocks that looks similar to Scratch. It has hat blocks and variables. I think this could have a page on this wiki.
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<scratchsig>LiamSapp123</scratchsig> 19:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
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:Does it have a specific connection to Scratch in particular though? We don't have a page on Blockly, even though it's a similar concept (and even though 3.0 has Blockly code in it).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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::Maybe we should have one about Blockly <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:31, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::I agree that we should make one on Blockly. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 01:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
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::::{{not done|Further discussion needed}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:11, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
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== What happened to link previews? ==
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{{not done}} They don't seem to be showing up for me at all anymore. Anybody else?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 02:44, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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:Same here. Did someone turn it off? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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::Also not getting previews (or at least when I tried it on [[Image Hosting]], linked above). I'll ping jvvg (since he was the one who enabled them).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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:::Any reply from jvvg yet?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 01:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
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::::Have you found any information on this yet, anybody?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 23:22, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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==Scratch program image==
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{{not done}} <br />
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The image showing the scratch program should be 3.0, not 2.0, right?
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<scratchsig> Mohie </scratchsig>
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:Not necessarily, we use the 2.0 version for historical references. So, we should have to images for this. One for 3.0, and one for 2.0.
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:Also, could you link to what you're talking about, please? It would be so much easier for someone to know what you were talking about easily.{{unsigned|12944qwerty}}
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::He meant the picture of the Scratch program shown in [[Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents]] needs to be updated to 3.0. Could an admin do this? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 23:25, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::Okay... So is there going to be another section for 3.0, or is 2.0 going to be merged with 3.0?
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:::And also, TenType is correct. I do mean the SW TOC.
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<scratchsig>Mohie</scratchsig> 16:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
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== Scratch Wiki Adventure ==
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{{not done}}
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On Wikipedia, there is an option for new Wikians to complete the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Adventure Wikipedia Adventure].  This teaches them skills and covers all the basics of using Wikipedia.  I think it'd be a good idea to create a Scratch Wiki Adventure of our own to teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki.  This would include editing tips, rules, etiquette, etc.  I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on this idea and/or if anyone would like to work with me on creating this.<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 17:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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:<b>+1</b> {{e|:D}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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::I hope you're prepared to put in the amount of work involved, because The Wikipedia Adventure is really involved (I've [[wikipedia:User:Kenny2wiki|done it]] once before) and a lot of stuff has to be created for it to work. I like the idea, but I don't know if anyone here has the follow-through to actually focus on a project like this that could take a week or more to make.
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::If you think you can commit yourself (and furthermore get others to commit themselves) you can make a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]] of it. Good luck!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::Woohoo; we got bureaucratic approval!  I think we can do it (maybe not ''as'' well as the Wikipedia Adventure, but still good).  I'll start thinkin' up some basic ideas to start us off.  If anyone is interested in working with me on this, please let me know on my [[User talk:54329|talk page]]. {{e|:)}}<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 05:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::: Isn’t this going to be a duplicate of the  [[Help:Welcome|welcome tutorial]]? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:41, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::::No, the Wikipedia Adventure is really involved and more interactive. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 06:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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::::::Adding on, when I did it, it felt a lot more like a game/activity than a guidebook.  It allows the user to actually collaborate, talk to people and create/edit a page all in a sandbox setting.  It helped me learn the basics of Wikipedia far more than a guide could (probably because I was really interested in it and getting those shiny badges was nice).<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 06:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|::::::}}
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{{Scratch Wiki:Scratch Wiki Adventure/project}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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:I can help some tech stuff maybe? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 17:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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::I can help too! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::I want to help too, so should I add myself or should 54329 do it as he's the owner? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
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::::In reply to both of you: Thanks for offering to help out!  I'll add both of your names to the list.  For future people that wish to help: feel free to just add your name under the "Assigned" section. <scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 05:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::::I just took a quick glance at the Wikipedia Adventure, and that looks cool! I created a very different page a while ago with the same goal of educating New Wikians using a sort of quest system - you can check it out at [[User:Bigpuppy/Quests]]. {{e|:)}} It seems like this would be very different than that, though. {{cool|Good idea}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|5}}That's super cool that you made a quests page.  This will be semi-similar.  Feel free to stop by if you have any ideas for it. <small>''wink wink''</small><scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 08:03, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
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== Moving Plural page titles to singular ==
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{{not done}}
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On the wiki, there are many page titles like "Blocks" and "Numbers". This makes it confusing to users and editors, as well as links. "<nowiki>[[Block]]s</nowiki> makes a link to singular that appears plural, but there is no equivalent for singular-appearing plural-leading links.
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This is a big change in the Wiki, so further discussion will be needed to manage the moves.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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:Could we start a Scratch Wiki Project? I  definitely think we should keep the pages consistently singular. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 02:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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:: Singular page titles would seem strange, since the plural describes a general thing, there is not only one. Also, I fixed a spelling mistake. {{unsigned|Congyingzhou}}
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:::Many page titles cannot be made into plural form. Having both plural and singular forms is confusing and creates other problems. Singular page titles are also easier to work with, as I said in my first post. Also, remember to not change other users' posts without permission.
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:::Should I put {{t|move}} on the plural pages?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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::::I'll put the template on as soon as possible (on the bottom){{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 03:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Next time, don't add {{t|move}} to all of them; either move them all right away or wait. It makes a bunch of edits in Recent Changes which will all need to be undone when the final decision is decided. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:02, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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::::::So should we move them or not, and how will we do it? We will also need to fix many links and redirects.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
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:::::::Or should we just mark the pages and get a bot to move the, fix all the redirects and links, and change any other issues?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}}
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== 2.0 Image Updating ==
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A lot of images here need updating to 3.0. For example, the editor in the TOC, many Scratch Cats, etc. When will this be done? <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 10:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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:I've asked an admin to update the TOC image.  Not sure about the other ones. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 16:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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::There's not a set time when this will be done. It will be done gradually. Any time you see an image that needs updated, feel free to update it (but be sure to compress, crop, etc. the file).{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 01:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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== Thankful Thursday! January 30{{th}}, 2020 ==
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 025}}
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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The next TT is February 27{{th}}. See you then!
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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== Why won’t this table work? ==
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{{not done}}
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Link: [[User:Waffle_Iron_Studios/ScratchNet shop page]]<scratchsig>Waffle_Iron_Studios</scratchsig> 21:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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: I think it's because the table does not have any line-breaks. See [[Help:Tables|this]]. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
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== Thankful Thursday! February 27{{th}}, 2020 ==
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 026}}
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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The next TT is March 26{{th}}. See you then!
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
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:{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
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== New Featured Images ==
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{{not done}}
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Does anyone have suggestions for new featured images after these ones have run their course? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:52, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
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:We should really have a better system for suggesting featured images... {{e|;)}} (see [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]])<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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::I agree. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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== IWB Interwiki Check ==
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Hello everyone. It's been awhile since IWB has scanned the wikis for interwikis to add, and now is probably a good time to do that!
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Below you'll find a list of proposed edits from the bot. It would be helpful if a few people could look at some proposed edits and double check them for errors:
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[[User:InterwikiBot/Proposed_Edits]]
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Several issues have already been discovered:
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* Not properly handling empty interwikis, ex <nowiki>en:</nowiki>, see the ja homepage
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* test -> tw
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* The bot is proposing adding interwikis to other pages when they already have an interwiki for that language
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* Help:Namespaces has a flat out wrong interwiki suggestion
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This might take another round or two to remove perviously undiscovered bugs, but with the wikis growing more complex, it's important to get them now. Thank you <scratchsig>ErnieParke</scratchsig> 01:37, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
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== Advertising article ==
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We really need to overhaul [[Dexter_Industries_GoPiGo_For_Raspberry_Pi|this article]]. A lot of it is just advertising the product. For example, do we really need a "Buying" section? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 23:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
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:[[Scratch Bit]] has also a buying section. But the entire page is just an ad. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 08:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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::I've moved the GoPiGo article to the creator's userspace (which has precedent - see the last topic on [[User talk:DexterInd]]) and removed the categories & advertisement notes.
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::Scratch Bit is an official Scratch product and must be documented. It stays.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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== Sonic the Hedgehog ==
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Right now the wiki is saturated with Sonic the Hedgehog stuff, specially the AF pages. Lots of example of stuff are Sonic stuff. The entire wiki feels like an indirect Sonic ad. We should change a lot of this examples. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 11:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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:Other than April Fools pages, could you give a few examples? <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 13:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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::Just wiki search Sonic or Hedgehog. Also a lot of examples are by PrincessPandaLover and need to be changed int more generic stuff. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 14:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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:::If I'm not mistaken, the Sonic stuff is limited to only AF pages. It's fine to gradually phase AF pages away from Sonic content while making other edits to the pages, but don't go mass editing out Sonic stuff. (Do note that I don't really see a problem with a Sonic theme in AF pages lol){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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== Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German ==
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Currently, the links under the 'Legal' category do not are not mentioned that they are in German. I suggest that the footer mentions that the content under the Legal category are in German.
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Without mentioning that, some people might be confused that they are in German, and not English. They also [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 105#Privacy Policy Article|cannot be translated into English]] without it being inaccurate. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 13:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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:Why would they be German?<scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 16:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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::The Wiki servers are located in Germany and therefore follow the rules/regulations of Germany. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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:::Would you be amenable to using the [https://example.com external link marker] on them instead? Putting "(German)" on a footer link seems unorthodox...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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::::The servers are German because they are owned by Martin Wollenweber, who lives in Germany.<scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 11:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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::::: Maybe the Privacy Policy and the Disclaimers can be individually labelled that they are in German, or is that still 'unorthodox'? They could have 'in German' put in brackets after them. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 13:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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::::::I think it's fine the way it is, but it should get translated for other wikis so we know what happens to our data.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 17:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|::::::}}
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Did you read the OP? They can't be translated accurately.
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Having a notice at the top of the actual pages saying something similar to what I say on my userpage (the "many other wikis link here" thing), ideally translated into everything, would also be fine for me - I'm only opposed to changing the footer.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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== Updating Translators page ==
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The Scratch Team is no longer actively maintaining the translators page https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Translators
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I'd like to remove the Scratch Team only badge and allow folks from the translation community to update the page. Ideally there would be just one or two people per language that would keep things up to date for their language.
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Would there be a different process for translators to join as a wiki editor? Are there different suggestions for having the translators page managed by the community?
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Thanks,
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--Chris
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{{unsigned|Chrisg}}
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:Ok! I'll remove the banner at the top of the page for you. As for the translation community updating the page, we can not allow a different application processes for translators joining the wiki, though they are welcome to follow the current application processes and join the wiki that way. Also if they chose not to join they can always leave a post on the [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/294197/ Community Portal in the forums] with what should be updated and one of our editors will happily make the change. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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== Turbo Mode ==
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{{done}}
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[[Single Stepping|This article]] is very outdated, I believe we should create an article on Turbo Mode itself. <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 22:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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:I agree - there is an article about [[Detecting Turbo Mode]], but there doesn't seem to be one about Turbo Mode, as [[Turbo Mode]] just redirects to that article. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
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::The problem seems to be fixed as there is now a template saying it is from a historical perspective. <scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 18:06, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::There is - however, I don't believe that is the problem here. I think the problem VFDan is referring to is that there is not an article about Turbo Mode.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:11, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::That is what I am referring to; I believe we should create an article about Scratch 3.0's Turbo Mode <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 00:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::::You could create an article entitled "Turbo Mode (3.0)" and redirect Turbo Mode to that page instead of to the historical page. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Created the [[Turbo Mode (3.0)|page]], and changed the [[Turbo Mode|redirect]]. However the page is in dire need of expansion. <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::::::Marked as {{done}} however the article still needs expansion {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 19:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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== How to make a quiz ==
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[big] What Is A Quiz? [/big]
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{{unsigned|Cs1760724}}
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:This isn’t the purpose of the Community Portal. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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::I was actually just about to make a tutorial for that. What a coincidence~! {{smile}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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::: [[Creating a Quiz]] already exists. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 16:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::I've redirected [[How to Make a Quiz]] to [[Creating a Quiz]]. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 16:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

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Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,141edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Done.
Updated the list as the author.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,141edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Updated!
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,141edit 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Logging server faults

No Never Done

Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Time Errors Details/Comments
8 August 2018 400 Bad Request
503 Service Unavailable
I was editing User:Kenny2scratch/common.js, and when I clicked "save page" I hit a "400 Bad Request" error. I pressed the browser "back" button (thanks Chrome for caching form data), and clicked "save page" again, and I encountered "503 Service Unavailable". I went back again, resubmitted, and the edit went through.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
10:26 AM, 3 September 2018 (GMT) Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties I clicked on random page
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 09:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
5:27 PM, 3 September 2018 (HKT) "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties" I was literally attempting to edit this section. When I clicked the "edit" link, it brought me to a page that said:

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
(Cannot access the database)


You can try searching Google in the meantime.
Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.


Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

10:07-11:20 PM, 8 September 2018 (HKT) Major outage across all wikis Multiple screenshots: [1][2][3][4]this is the most useful error[5][6][7][8][9][10]

Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

10:44 AM, 2 October 2018 (GMT) 508 Resource Limit Reached Edit a user's talk page
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 09:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
4:40 AM, 2 January 2019 (CST) 508 Resource Limit Reached Trying to create a redirect page.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
4:58 PM, 8:02 PM, 10:22 PM, 10:25 PM @ 3 January 2019 (HKT); 12:46 AM @ 4 January 2019 (HKT) 508 Resource Limit Reached


503 Service Unavailable
File upload fail

Frequent outages across all wikis. Most likely caused by traffic spike from 3.0.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
9:12 AM, 4 January 2019 (CST)
9:17 AM, 4 January 2019 (EST)
"Service Unavailable Error [...]
503 Service Unavailable Error"
"508 Resource Limit Reached"
Trying to enter my talk, kept refreshing until worked, came to CP to log fault. Errors repeated until worked.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
15:02:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC) Fatal exception of type DBQueryError I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
9:02 AM, 7 February 2019 (CST) 508 Resource Limit Reached Trying to go to How to Make a Typewriter Effect.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
4:50 AM, 25 May 2019 (UTC) HTTP error: error Clicked the Show preview button while editing User:TenType/Header, when it did not preview and received the error. Clicking the button again resolved the issue.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
11:00 PM, 24 June 2019 (UTC) "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties." Literally attempted to access en.scratch-wiki.info and a few other pages, when I received this:

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
(Cannot access the database)


You can try searching via Google in the meantime.
Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.

Waited for like 10 minutes while reloading and the error finally cleared.
TenType (talk | contribs) 07:17, 25 June 2019 (HKT)

08:25, 22 January 2020 (EST) "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties." Tried to navigate to my userpage from another article, and got the error.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,383)  Scratch  Directory 
13:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
13:26, 2nd April 2020 (UTC) 2020-04-02 13:26:04: Fatal exception of type DBQueryError Pressed the edit box on the wiki sandbox.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 13:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Sometime around 22:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC) "MediaWiki internal error. Exception caught inside exception handler. [...]" Clicked on the Recent Changes link on the sidebar, screenshot here
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
22:42, 2 April 2020 (UTC) "MediaWiki internal error. Original exception: [...]" Was accepting an account, screenshot here
TenType (talk | contribs) 22:51, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Could we have a dedicated page to that?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,798)) 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Nah, just here is fine.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
No Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. (archives)
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Not too many right now.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
No Never done! Server faults will always come.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,798)) 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Do we not have this?
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).
Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
There are kinda a lot of faults now, I believe we should create another page for it.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  16:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

List of deleted pages

No Not done

(Brought up here after discussion here.)

So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:

  • Mathfreak231's, which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
  • Mine, which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
  • Jammum's Deleted Pages, which are more recent than either of the above
  • Jammum's All Deleted Pages, which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)

I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a Scratch Wiki Project.

Advantages
  • More organized
  • One place for all
  • Can be updated by anyone
Disadvantages
None I can think of off the top of my head

Thoughts? Shall we do it?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
+1 :)
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
I think the page will not be notable enough to go there.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a Scratch Wiki Project. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I say aye.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Are we going to do this?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Okay, I just created a page called User:TenType/Deleted Files, was scrolling through the Community Portal, and found this discussion. :/
Maybe this page could contain pages only and not files? (I really spent a lot of time and effort onto my deleted files page) Anyways, still waiting for a response on whether or not this project will be started.
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Why not? It sounds like a great idea; let's get started. How do you guys find deleted pages anyway (just wondering)?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 15:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Why hasn't this happened yet? :P
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  16:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Welcome templates

Yes Done

A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:

That's a lot of welcomes.PNG

10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?

To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.

I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea :) I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can :D?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
It has happened again...
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,383)  Scratch  Directory 
20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different??
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Can't we make a User_talk:ACCEPTEDUSER/Welcomes page?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,798)) 20:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
That doesn't actually cause a ping tho...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
We could make it ping though if there is someone willing to mess with the code...
Smileycreations15 Profile Icon.png smileycreations15 (talk | contribs) 11:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
I was just scrolling through the CP, and this caught my eye. Great idea, I definitely think this needs to be considered. I understand that people are just trying to be kind by sending the welcome messages, but it would almost be like a horror film for the person who owns the account. I think 4-5 welcome templates are enough, but I think there needs to be a break between even those. Getting 4-5 welcomes in a couple of seconds is also not the best of ideas.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 17:55, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
We should ask new users for their opinion on this right after they get the welcomes.
TenType (talk | contribs) 00:06, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
I think 4-5 is a good limit. I personally liked getting welcomes, but I only got 3 of them.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 14:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
I'm a fairly new user, and I got 4 welcomes. It seemed fine for me, so I agree that 4-5 sounds like a good limit.
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 01:23, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────How about one or two users post a template, or we just use the automatic one at the top, and then people below can put encouraging words (not large templates) followed by a sig? This would not be too much for the user, but still shows lots of people are there to support them!
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,383)  Scratch  Directory 
15:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Maybe we can create a welcome template, and a bot automatically adds it for every new user. Any user edit it (just like an article). Maybe there could be in it for all the users that contributed.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:21, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Please fix your signature!
No, the point of each user having their own welcome template is for them to be specific to the user welcoming - a different message for each one. If they just wanted to add their name to a stock welcome they could reply to the {{welcome}} message added by default. However, 10 users posting personalized welcomes is a lot of different welcomes to read - which is why it needs limiting.
Seems like 4-5 is the limit we've agreed on; for the sake of looseness, the limit is now 5 welcome messages at most on any new user's talk page (not including the {{welcome}} message; does not apply to users created before this decision).
@Nambaseking01: Limiting the rate of welcomes is a separate topic that should be proposed separately.
This topic is now Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Block Problems

No Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken
Today I started to finish up the script for How to Evaluate an Expression, and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else — it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in Show preview mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in this forum topic?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this?
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
You can use this page.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...
@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks!
TenType (talk | contribs) 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

New Featured Images

Yes Done

Hey! Soon, on August 12th, it'll have been a month since we updated the Featured Images yet. This time, I don't want to do them late like I have in the past, so does anyone have any suggestions? :D
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

A photo of somewhere tropical.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
I don't understand - is this a joke (if it isn't, I'm not trying to offend; simply trying to understand)? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
It is.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
The _:))_ emoji. Looks nice and funny.
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 01:23, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
You mean literally feature the :) picture? I guess that works LOL
I'd suggest File:Statistic Rollover Info.png because it looks cool and has a random interesting piece of info :)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:42, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
It's been August 12th, does that mean this discussion is now for the next featured image change? Or can this be archived?
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 18:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Giving Credit on the Wiki

Yes Done I think that we should make a template for credit like this:

Remix notice 3.0.png Credit to Scratch-Coding for this template.

. It would be helpful. We could use the remix button image instead of the one I have.
Scratch-CodingProfilePic.png Scratch-Coding (Talk |Scratch |(378 edits) 00:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

When and where will it be used?
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,141edit 01:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
What would you use this for, and why? The wiki is a collaboration and we all own a part of it. No one owns a article unless they created it on there userspace where they can so whatever they want with it.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  01:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Templates are mainly created for mainspace Wiki articles — when and why would this be needed?
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
It would be used on userspaces, giving credit for a image, and giving credit for an example.
Scratch-Coding (talk | contribs) 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
You can use it on your userspace but I don't think it's necessary. Btw: What did you do to your signature? It's broken.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
This wouldn't be that beneficial to the Wiki, especially if it is mostly used on userspace. I still disagree.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Who would use it?
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't think this is necessary. If you need to credit someone you don't need a template. Furthermore, you wouldn't need to credit anyone on mainspace, this is collaborative and we don't get/need credit for what we write here.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Giving credit is not needed in mainspace and can be done manually:

Remix notice 3.0.png Credit to Scratch-Coding for this template.
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
23:41, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Let's go ahead and consider this Yes Done.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,383)  Scratch  Directory 
17:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Tinkercad Codeblocks

Tinkercad has a new feature called Codeblocks that looks similar to Scratch. It has hat blocks and variables. I think this could have a page on this wiki.
LiamSapp123 (talk | contribs) 19:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Does it have a specific connection to Scratch in particular though? We don't have a page on Blockly, even though it's a similar concept (and even though 3.0 has Blockly code in it).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
Maybe we should have one about Blockly
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:31, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
I agree that we should make one on Blockly.
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 01:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
No Further discussion needed
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:11, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

What happened to link previews?

No Not done They don't seem to be showing up for me at all anymore. Anybody else?
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
02:44, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Same here. Did someone turn it off?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Also not getting previews (or at least when I tried it on Image Hosting, linked above). I'll ping jvvg (since he was the one who enabled them).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Any reply from jvvg yet?
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
01:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Have you found any information on this yet, anybody?
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
23:22, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Scratch program image

No Not done
The image showing the scratch program should be 3.0, not 2.0, right?
Mohie (talk | contribs)

Not necessarily, we use the 2.0 version for historical references. So, we should have to images for this. One for 3.0, and one for 2.0.
Also, could you link to what you're talking about, please? It would be so much easier for someone to know what you were talking about easily.
-unsigned comment by 12944qwerty (talk | contribs)
He meant the picture of the Scratch program shown in Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents needs to be updated to 3.0. Could an admin do this?
TenType (talk | contribs) 23:25, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Okay... So is there going to be another section for 3.0, or is 2.0 going to be merged with 3.0?
And also, TenType is correct. I do mean the SW TOC.


Mohie (talk | contribs) 16:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki Adventure

No Not done

On Wikipedia, there is an option for new Wikians to complete the Wikipedia Adventure. This teaches them skills and covers all the basics of using Wikipedia. I think it'd be a good idea to create a Scratch Wiki Adventure of our own to teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki. This would include editing tips, rules, etiquette, etc. I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on this idea and/or if anyone would like to work with me on creating this.
54329 (talk | contribs) 17:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

+1 :D
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
I hope you're prepared to put in the amount of work involved, because The Wikipedia Adventure is really involved (I've done it once before) and a lot of stuff has to be created for it to work. I like the idea, but I don't know if anyone here has the follow-through to actually focus on a project like this that could take a week or more to make.
If you think you can commit yourself (and furthermore get others to commit themselves) you can make a Scratch Wiki Project of it. Good luck!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Woohoo; we got bureaucratic approval! I think we can do it (maybe not as well as the Wikipedia Adventure, but still good). I'll start thinkin' up some basic ideas to start us off. If anyone is interested in working with me on this, please let me know on my talk page. :)
54329 (talk | contribs) 05:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Isn’t this going to be a duplicate of the welcome tutorial?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 06:41, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
No, the Wikipedia Adventure is really involved and more interactive.
TenType (talk | contribs) 06:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Adding on, when I did it, it felt a lot more like a game/activity than a guidebook. It allows the user to actually collaborate, talk to people and create/edit a page all in a sandbox setting. It helped me learn the basics of Wikipedia far more than a guide could (probably because I was really interested in it and getting those shiny badges was nice).
54329 (talk | contribs) 06:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

SWP 003 - Scratch Wiki Adventure
DescriptionStatusOwnerStartedLinks
Create the Scratch Wiki Adventure "game" to help teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki in a fun, interactive setting.No Not done
  • Owner: 54329
  • Assigned:
    • TenType
    • 12944qwerty
    • Apple502j
    • Scratch-Coding
    • Jammum
    • Dominic305
    • JJBullet
    • Kenny2scratch
11/21/2019Project results
Project page
Project discussion


Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I can help some tech stuff maybe?
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,141edit 17:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
I can help too!
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
I want to help too, so should I add myself or should 54329 do it as he's the owner?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  01:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
In reply to both of you: Thanks for offering to help out! I'll add both of your names to the list. For future people that wish to help: feel free to just add your name under the "Assigned" section.
54329 (talk | contribs) 05:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
I just took a quick glance at the Wikipedia Adventure, and that looks cool! I created a very different page a while ago with the same goal of educating New Wikians using a sort of quest system - you can check it out at User:Bigpuppy/Quests. :) It seems like this would be very different than that, though. Cool-cat-emoji.png Good idea!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────That's super cool that you made a quests page. This will be semi-similar. Feel free to stop by if you have any ideas for it. wink wink
54329 (talk | contribs) 08:03, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Moving Plural page titles to singular

No Not done On the wiki, there are many page titles like "Blocks" and "Numbers". This makes it confusing to users and editors, as well as links. "[[Block]]s makes a link to singular that appears plural, but there is no equivalent for singular-appearing plural-leading links.

This is a big change in the Wiki, so further discussion will be needed to manage the moves.
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
00:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Could we start a Scratch Wiki Project? I  definitely think we should keep the pages consistently singular.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 02:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Singular page titles would seem strange, since the plural describes a general thing, there is not only one. Also, I fixed a spelling mistake.
-unsigned comment by Congyingzhou (talk | contribs)
Many page titles cannot be made into plural form. Having both plural and singular forms is confusing and creates other problems. Singular page titles are also easier to work with, as I said in my first post. Also, remember to not change other users' posts without permission.
Should I put {{move}} on the plural pages?
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
00:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
I'll put the template on as soon as possible (on the bottom)
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
03:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Next time, don't add {{move}} to all of them; either move them all right away or wait. It makes a bunch of edits in Recent Changes which will all need to be undone when the final decision is decided.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:02, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
So should we move them or not, and how will we do it? We will also need to fix many links and redirects.
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
00:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Or should we just mark the pages and get a bot to move the, fix all the redirects and links, and change any other issues?
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account

2.0 Image Updating

A lot of images here need updating to 3.0. For example, the editor in the TOC, many Scratch Cats, etc. When will this be done?
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 10:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I've asked an admin to update the TOC image. Not sure about the other ones.
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 16:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
There's not a set time when this will be done. It will be done gradually. Any time you see an image that needs updated, feel free to update it (but be sure to compress, crop, etc. the file).
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
01:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! January 30th, 2020

Welcome to the 25th Thankful Thursday! January 30th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
The Scratch Wiki Adventure Team
  • I was amazed when seeing the discussion about this at the CP! Good luck on making it, team - you'll do a fantastic job!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:35, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs)
  • Since the creation of your account, each time I look through the recent changes, I almost always see your name there. You're constantly making contributions to various pages improving the Scratch Wiki. Thank you for all of your efforts and help!
    54329 (talk | contribs) 20:52, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Wow, dude! That's an amount of edits!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 17:18, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your impressive effort to clean up every corner of the wiki and providing impetus to help with the same.
    Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 03:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Groko13 (talk | contribs)
  • You good? You joined after me and seem to be rocking this place up! Fantastic job, my friend, you are doing some awesome contributions to the Scratch Wiki already!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 20:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)
  • You just became an EW, like, three months ago and you are already rocking up the Scratch Wiki! I can already see the amount of people being accepted into the SW as a contributor increasing! That's a big inspiration for me to become an EW one day ;)
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
  • You always make sure the wiki is running nicely and try your best to fix mistakes and problems.
    CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
    00:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Tabourettable (talk | contribs)
  • You have some strength, don't you? ;) No matter how mistakes you make, you keep getting motivated to edit this place more. I decided I could help you with your motivation, I can see the future shining that you'll be an AWESOME editor.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
banana439monkey (talk | contribs)
  • You always point out wrong things if there is a discussion between other people in a funny way and also know how to critcise someone without...uhh...being harsh or anything, just plain funny. Congrats, my friend who gave me karma in a talk page message...
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Jammum (talk | contribs)
  • You seem cool! Also, you indirectly helped me with a mouse pointer dialogue!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:04, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Hellounicorns2 (talk | contribs)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The next TT is February 27th. See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Why won’t this table work?

No Not done

Link: User:Waffle_Iron_Studios/ScratchNet shop page
Waffle_Iron_Studios (talk | contribs) 21:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I think it's because the table does not have any line-breaks. See this.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 07:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! February 27th, 2020

Welcome to the 26th Thankful Thursday! February 27th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for your impressive amount of contributions to the Scratch Wiki! Keep up the good effort!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 02:17, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
IsaiahContreras (talk | contribs)
TenType (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for patrolling so diligently! You're precisely what I search for in an EW (not that others aren't) - thanks for being so faithful to the Wiki.
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    14:41, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
Dominic305 (talk | contribs)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The next TT is March 26th. See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

No Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

New Featured Images

No Not done

Does anyone have suggestions for new featured images after these ones have run their course? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:52, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

We should really have a better system for suggesting featured images... ;) (see Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
I agree.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

IWB Interwiki Check

Hello everyone. It's been awhile since IWB has scanned the wikis for interwikis to add, and now is probably a good time to do that!

Below you'll find a list of proposed edits from the bot. It would be helpful if a few people could look at some proposed edits and double check them for errors:

User:InterwikiBot/Proposed_Edits

Several issues have already been discovered:

  • Not properly handling empty interwikis, ex en:, see the ja homepage
  • test -> tw
  • The bot is proposing adding interwikis to other pages when they already have an interwiki for that language
  • Help:Namespaces has a flat out wrong interwiki suggestion

This might take another round or two to remove perviously undiscovered bugs, but with the wikis growing more complex, it's important to get them now. Thank you
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:37, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Advertising article

We really need to overhaul this article. A lot of it is just advertising the product. For example, do we really need a "Buying" section?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 23:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Scratch Bit has also a buying section. But the entire page is just an ad.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 08:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
I've moved the GoPiGo article to the creator's userspace (which has precedent - see the last topic on User talk:DexterInd) and removed the categories & advertisement notes.
Scratch Bit is an official Scratch product and must be documented. It stays.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Sonic the Hedgehog

Right now the wiki is saturated with Sonic the Hedgehog stuff, specially the AF pages. Lots of example of stuff are Sonic stuff. The entire wiki feels like an indirect Sonic ad. We should change a lot of this examples.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 11:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Other than April Fools pages, could you give a few examples?
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 13:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Just wiki search Sonic or Hedgehog. Also a lot of examples are by PrincessPandaLover and need to be changed int more generic stuff.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 14:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
If I'm not mistaken, the Sonic stuff is limited to only AF pages. It's fine to gradually phase AF pages away from Sonic content while making other edits to the pages, but don't go mass editing out Sonic stuff. (Do note that I don't really see a problem with a Sonic theme in AF pages lol)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
16:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German

Currently, the links under the 'Legal' category do not are not mentioned that they are in German. I suggest that the footer mentions that the content under the Legal category are in German.

Without mentioning that, some people might be confused that they are in German, and not English. They also cannot be translated into English without it being inaccurate.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 13:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Why would they be German?
OurPrincess (talk | contribs) 16:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
The Wiki servers are located in Germany and therefore follow the rules/regulations of Germany.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Would you be amenable to using the external link marker on them instead? Putting "(German)" on a footer link seems unorthodox...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
The servers are German because they are owned by Martin Wollenweber, who lives in Germany.
OurPrincess (talk | contribs) 11:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Maybe the Privacy Policy and the Disclaimers can be individually labelled that they are in German, or is that still 'unorthodox'? They could have 'in German' put in brackets after them.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 13:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
I think it's fine the way it is, but it should get translated for other wikis so we know what happens to our data.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,383)  Scratch  Directory 
17:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Did you read the OP? They can't be translated accurately.

Having a notice at the top of the actual pages saying something similar to what I say on my userpage (the "many other wikis link here" thing), ideally translated into everything, would also be fine for me - I'm only opposed to changing the footer.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Updating Translators page

The Scratch Team is no longer actively maintaining the translators page https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Translators

I'd like to remove the Scratch Team only badge and allow folks from the translation community to update the page. Ideally there would be just one or two people per language that would keep things up to date for their language.

Would there be a different process for translators to join as a wiki editor? Are there different suggestions for having the translators page managed by the community?

Thanks, --Chris
-unsigned comment by Chrisg (talk | contribs)

Ok! I'll remove the banner at the top of the page for you. As for the translation community updating the page, we can not allow a different application processes for translators joining the wiki, though they are welcome to follow the current application processes and join the wiki that way. Also if they chose not to join they can always leave a post on the Community Portal in the forums with what should be updated and one of our editors will happily make the change. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 16:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Turbo Mode

Yes Done

This article is very outdated, I believe we should create an article on Turbo Mode itself.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  22:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

I agree - there is an article about Detecting Turbo Mode, but there doesn't seem to be one about Turbo Mode, as Turbo Mode just redirects to that article. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
The problem seems to be fixed as there is now a template saying it is from a historical perspective.
OurPrincess (talk | contribs) 18:06, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
There is - however, I don't believe that is the problem here. I think the problem VFDan is referring to is that there is not an article about Turbo Mode.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:11, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
That is what I am referring to; I believe we should create an article about Scratch 3.0's Turbo Mode
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  00:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
You could create an article entitled "Turbo Mode (3.0)" and redirect Turbo Mode to that page instead of to the historical page.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Created the page, and changed the redirect. However the page is in dire need of expansion.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  17:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Marked as Yes Done however the article still needs expansion VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

How to make a quiz

[big] What Is A Quiz? [/big]
-unsigned comment by Cs1760724 (talk | contribs)

This isn’t the purpose of the Community Portal.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 06:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
I was actually just about to make a tutorial for that. What a coincidence~! :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Creating a Quiz already exists.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 16:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
I've redirected How to Make a Quiz to Creating a Quiz.
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)