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Here's some things that we need your help for.
 
Here's some things that we need your help for.
  
=== Are these done? ===
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=== Archive This!!!! ===
* [[S:CPND#Lack of curiosity at Scratch Wiki?]] - articles are made
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* [[S:CPND#Should "Griffpatch" become a wiki article?]] - rejected
* [[S:CPND#Should "Griffpatch" become a wiki article?]] - seems rejected
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* [[S:CPND#Block Lag on Chrome (revived)]] - ScratchBlocks updated
  
 
=== <span id="Not done">Other Topics</span> ===
 
=== <span id="Not done">Other Topics</span> ===
 
Topics that are not listed above.
 
Topics that are not listed above.
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==== About Scratch 3.0 ====
 
==== About Scratch 3.0 ====
 
* [[S:CPND#A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All]]
 
* [[S:CPND#A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All]]
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==== About Wiki Management ====
 
==== About Wiki Management ====
 
===== Backend =====
 
===== Backend =====
* [[S:CPND#Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis ?]]
 
 
* [[S:CPND#Embedding of Scratch Projects]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Embedding of Scratch Projects]]
* [[S:CPND#Things We have to Do]]
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* [[S:CPND#VisualEditor extension]]
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===== Page Management =====
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* [[S:CPND#Help:Contents Is missing some help pages]]
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* [[S:CPND#Not Done doesn't get enough attention]]
  
 
===== Rules =====
 
===== Rules =====
 
* [[S:CPND#custom signatures]]
 
* [[S:CPND#custom signatures]]
 
* [[S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use]]
 
* [[S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use]]
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* [[S:CPND#Account Request Notes]]
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* [[S:CPND#Relax S:NOSP even more]]
  
 
===== Interwiki =====
 
===== Interwiki =====
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{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 
{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 
:(I have edited this topic a little from its original version){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 
:(I have edited this topic a little from its original version){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
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::Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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:::Done.
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:::Updated the list as the author.{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
  
  
== New page for intro/outro ==
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== Logging server faults ==
 
 
I think this is a big thing right know so should we have a main space article about intros/outros on one page or on two pages? Also will anyone help we write it?<br>{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 13:50, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:Hmmmm, are you talking about a intro/outro to a project?<scratchsig>NYCDOT</scratchsig> 20:58, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 
::Yes i am<br>{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 16:38, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:::{{not done}}{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 14:38, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 
::::It should be a single article called "Intros and Outros." "Intro" and "Outro" should redirect to it.{{User:Millie S/signature}} 17:08, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 
::::: I think a single article, to which the searches "Intro" and "Outro" direct to, would be good. It would be useful to Scratchers who don't know what they are and might try to search for one or the other but want to know about both.<br><scratchsig>SuperWhale123</scratchsig> 09:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::That is a good idea. <scratchsig>Sti_scratch</scratchsig> 04:45, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::::I'll help write if you want :) I think that's a swell idea! <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  01:18, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::::Shall we begin writing it? <scratchsig>Purple_Ember</scratchsig> 15:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::::}}Sure! I'm not sure what to do with new pages... do we just make the new page and just add to it or do we make it in a sandbox and add it all when it's done? The first one, right? <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  20:45, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|:::::::::}} I believe so. Let me create the page real quick... <scratchsig>Purple_Ember</scratchsig> 22:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:{{done}} Do you want to remove the not done template?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 00:22, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
== English Scratch Club ==
 
 
{{not done}}
 
{{not done}}
  
The [https://scratch-dach.info/wiki/Scratch-Wiki:Scratch_Club Scratch club] is a weekly meeting among a group of Scratchers which are contributing actively to the Scratch Wiki and to Scratch in general. The meetings are used to discuss important issues, most notable was the discussion if the transition of the english Wiki should take place. Currently, the weekly meetings are held in German, but we used to have an international Scratch club following after the German one. An alternative could be to make it alternating every week between German and English. As a start, who of the English and international Wiki administrators would be interested in it and able to join? And what would be better: weekly every Monday at 9:00 PM CET or bi-weekly at 8:00 PM? Once I get a tendency about the ''if'' and ''when'', I will bring it up at the next German Scratch club, perhaps already next Monday. <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 20:54, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:Aw man! I wish I was a admin. Well, I am pretty sure someone (Cough cough Kenny2scatch Cough Cough)<scratchsig>NYCDOT</scratchsig> 22:14, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:I would definitely like to join, but neither 8 or 9 PM CET work for me - I'm in Hong Kong, and 8PM CET is 3AM HKT... Best would be on weekends, since everyone's time is likely to be more flexible - on weekdays, we have work and school, but on weekends times that would normally be during work/school are usually ok. Would 2PM CET on Saturdays (or Sundays) be workable?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:32, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 
::Hey, I noticed where I live, that 8/9 PM is 3 PMEST(end of school day!), but 2PM CET is 8AMEST which is not good.<scratchsig>NYCDOT</scratchsig> 11:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I know this has been inactive for a ''very'' long time.
 
:::Neither 8 or 9 PM CET work for me either, as they are 12 and 1 PM, which is in the middle of the school day, and I am busy on the weekends at that time. How about an "always open" meeting where you can post anytime? {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 18:55, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::FYI: Time for Scratch Club have now changed to every Wednesday, 8 PM CET <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 11:40, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Not Done ==
 
{{not done}}<!-- lol -->
 
 
I know someone already brought it up...<br/>
 
Anyways, Not Done is not getting any attention. I know that Kenny2scratch already added “Things To Do” on the left sidebar, and the TOC of Not Done, yet no one seems to notice it. I think that we should release an announcement to all existing editors about ND, and all incoming users about ND on their welcome page. In fact, I’m going to add that to my welcome right now.<br/>
 
Any thoughts?{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 23:53, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:Nice idea, support! <br>{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 12:06, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::Thanks!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 15:15, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Support, I think that is a great idea. <scratchsig>Purplewolves</scratchsig> 20:32, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Thanks for support!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 22:15, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::No worries. <scratchsig>Purplewolves</scratchsig> 22:53, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Support better way to mark not done. Should the TOC on the CP mark out all the not done discussions in a different text color, or something like that? One idea
 
::::::{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}}  03:45, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
Perhaps make all of the Not Done topics have bold titles? That should attract attention to them for those who browse the TOC.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:47, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:Maybe what we could do is put the Not Done Topics in Red in the TOC of the CP, the done topics Green in the TOC of the CP, and the in progress discussions the blue color it currently is.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 12:47, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::I agree with KrIsMa, Kenny2scratch, and NYCDOT on having some way to show which topics are done and which are not done, but how would we make topics show as a different color in the table of contents?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:31, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:::That...is a really good question. I have no idea. I really don't.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 19:22, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I noticed that {{user|Jedibrine|name}}'s userpage's TOC has different colors and font. You can ask how they did it. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 20:18, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 
 
== Suggestion: [[Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]] ==
 
 
It's as it says on the tin.
 
 
As part of this new revival of featured images (and leading on from [[#An Interval for Featured Images]], I propose that we create a page similar in concept to [[S:WWS]], where users leave new section saying which image they think deserve to be featured. This will clean up the CP (just slightly). At around the same time as Wiki Wednesday, the EWs/Bureaucrats review the suggestions and pick three images which will then to onto [[S:FI]]. If necessary, we could also edit the current Wiki Wednesday suggestion forum post to incorporate Featured Images too.
 
 
What do you think?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:This is a great idea! '''+1!''' {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:23, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Yes!{{User:Millie S/signature}} 18:12, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Thank you! Any bits that need improving?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 18:26, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I think the featured images are too minor to have a dedicated projectspace page. I propose instead to have a miscellaneous "homepage tasks" page (or something like that) where you can suggest news items, featured images, and edits to other things that appear on the homepage. Does that sound better?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 19:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::good idea{{User:Millie S/signature}} 19:53, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Nice idea, {{done|support}}{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 21:46, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}
 
@Ken won't a homepage tasks page just get cluttered up? If they had to filter through edits and news items to find featured images, wouldn't it be harder for the admins? Also, having a dedicated project space is better because it's a) more obvious to Wiki Editors what the page is for, and seems less boring and gruelling than "homepage tasks", which sounds like just a big long list of stuff to do. And b) it would be easier for editors to suggest, because having a clearer Featured Image Suggestions would be more obvious to others what has already been suggested and what hasn't, et cetera. And c) having a dedicated page would make it so much easier to implement into the current WW forum post.{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 08:49, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:We could have [[Scratch Wiki:Homepage Tasks]] and have there be a section for featured images, news things, and any other sections that may be needed. Then it wouldn't be as messy (if there were sections). Then we could make a shortcut called [[S:FEATUREDIMAGESUGGESTIONS]] (although that's a pretty long "shortcut") and have it redirect to [[Scratch Wiki:Homepage Tasks#Featured Image Suggestions]]. Or we could have [[Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]] redirect to [[Scratch Wiki:Homepage Tasks#Featured Image Suggestions]]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:32, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::If we're talking about shortcuts, how about [[S:FIS]], since [[S:FI]] redirects to the featured images?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 08:44, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Yeah, that'd probably be good. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:33, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Support to Bigpuppy's and Drunken's last two suggestions. :) Also are we going to have somthing smilar to [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/288005/ this]?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 23:45, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Perhaps even simply add the featured image suggestions to that forum topic's purpose? That saves effort :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:32, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Server Capacity ==
 
 
About two weeks ago, I could not access <code>scratch-wiki.info</code> for 24 hours. My internet connection was fine; the website just took too long to respond.
 
 
Today, when trying to view [[/Archive 66]], I got a 503 Service Unavailable error. I reloaded the page and it worked. However, page load times are still a bit long. Occasionally, after about 50 page loads, the page load times start to get really long, up to ten seconds.
 
 
Does MartinWollenweber's server have enough capacity? {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 16:44, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
: I think yes :-), but keep watching, if there are such kind of problems more often, I have to talk to our provider. It could help to create a list of such ocurannces to analyse it better. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 22:02, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Jvvg made some performance changes - everyone watching this, please keep a sharp eye out for any downtimes! They should be less now that we're not being naive.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:24, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
 
=== Logging server faults ===
 
 
Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 
Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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| Fatal exception of type DBQueryError
 
| I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
| I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
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| Trying to go to [[How to Make a Typewriter Effect]]. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
| Trying to go to [[How to Make a Typewriter Effect]]. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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| Clicked the ''Show preview'' button while editing [[User:TenType/Header]], when it did not preview and received the error. Clicking the button again resolved the issue. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
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:Could we have a dedicated page to that?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:Could we have a dedicated page to that?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 
It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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:Do we not have [[Scratch_Wiki:Known_Bugs|this?]]{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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::Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).
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::Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
  
== Community Blocks Page in my Userspace ==
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== Articles to update for 3.0 ==
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{{not done|Won't be done for a long time}}
  
Hey everyone! Following the discussion ^^ up there, I need some help on my community blocks page - [[Community Blocks (forum)]]. If anyone could help I'd be really grateful! Thanks! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  15:51, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hello everyone, it's already January 2nd for me, so I figure I might as well get the preparations started.
:I'd say that although it's small, it's big enough to be moved to the mainspace {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:46, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::<small>(edited OP link)</small> I've moved it to mainspace now, so contribute to it there :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:44, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Added Not Done to topic.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:45, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Add Siggy Warner to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] ==
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=== Observations/Edit Guidance ===
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Pages outdated upon 3.0 release are incredibly numerous. In most cases, one or more of the following edits can or should happen:
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* Parts that talk about ''3.0 features'' in ''future tense'' (e.g. "there will be a new paint editor") should be changed to use ''present tense'' (e.g. "there is a new paint editor") or ''past tense'' (e.g. "a new paint editor was introduced")
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* Parts that talk about ''3.0 changes'' in ''future tense'' (e.g. "the editor will be moved to the right side") should be changed to use ''past tense'' (e.g. "the editor was moved to the right side")
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* Parts that mention ''dates'' in ''any tense'' should have their tense ''updated'' (e.g. "the official release will be January 2019" -> "the official release was January 2019")
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* Parts that talk about ''2.0 features'' in ''any tense'' (e.g. "the paint editor has these features") should be changed to use ''past tense'' (e.g. "the paint editor had these features")
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* Parts that talk about ''2.0 changes'' in ''any tense'' (e.g. "the editor was moved to the left") should all be changed to ''past tense'' if they haven't already.
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* Take this opportunity to update things that weren't changed from 1.4 days as well.
  
So for those who don't know what [[User:Kenny2scratch/Project Guides/Siggy Warner|Siggy Warner]] is, it's basically a JavaScript thing that pops up a confirmation box when you forget to sign, as well as adding a notice to previews when you don't sign. You can still deliberately omit the signature by either checking the "minor edit" box or typing "CONFIRM" when prompted.
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=== Progress ===
  
Since forgetting to sign your post is one of the most common mistakes, I propose that instead of people opting into using my siggy warner, we add it to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] as something that is loaded for all users. I think my siggy warner has reached a development status where it's ready to be included for everyone.
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Here is a list of articles that need to be updated (on their real versions in mainspace) upon the release of 3.0. You can probably already start updating them now. Articles marked with an asterisk (*) have updates available at [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles]]/the article title, but:
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{{warning|do not copy articles directly from their 3.0 versions!}}
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Though in most cases the information will be correctly updated, make sure to use your own judgement as to its accuracy.
  
Potentially there could be a way to opt out of it, too - maybe by loading a user JS file that counteracts the effects of Siggy Warner.
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{{note|Some of the articles listed below need to be created.}}
  
What do you think about adding Siggy Warner to common.js?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:42, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
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Feel free to update this list yourself. Add any articles that you discover that need updates; remove articles that have been updated.
:Support. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 14:05, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::MAJOR Support Ken! Great idea! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:20, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::User-generated content should not be included in the wiki's main code.{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:07, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::@D_S: You are too late to say so - ScratchWikiSkin2 and Report Extension are user-generated. (you called Ken's Siggy Warner "user-generated", so these are also "user-generated".) Do you have any other reason? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 13:45, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Plenty of things that the Wiki itself relies on started off as user-generated things. This would be no exception. As apple rightfully points out, SWS2 and the Report extension are technically user-generated, as are WikiMonitor, TemplatesFTW, and other major parts. The only difference is that the "major" parts have been approved by the community to be a part of the Wiki itself and no longer counted as user-generated. By posting this, I am requesting that the community decide whether this should be moved into the main codebase and no longer simply a user-created script.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:50, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::CA is also user generated. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:30, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::::CA is user-modified. <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 07:31, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|:::::::}}
 
<s>Everybody, repeat after me: Stay on topic, stay on topic, stay on topic!</s>
 
  
Let's not get off track about what is or isn't user-created or modified. So far we have 2 supports and one disputed no support. Any other opinions?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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* Blocks
:Wouldn't this basically put WM out of a job? Except for categories.{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:18, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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* Change () Effect by () (sound block)
::@D_S Wm also updates the FPC, the too many edits warning and a bunch of other stuff as well. {{not done|No support!}}{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 15:36, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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* Development of Scratch 3.0
:::@Drunken jvvg has said he is fine with it, becasue it is less for him to maintain as he is really busy. @Asqwde Why no support? (Just wondering) <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:10, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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* Project
::(this indentation indicates a reply to @D_S) jvvg also noticed that I'm slowly integrating more WM functions into the core. He's fine with it, though, since it would be less for him to maintain. Actually, WM doesn't need to check file categories anymore, either - an abuse filter prevents file uploads without categories. But WM isn't anywhere near out of a job yet - it has curator updating and rapid edit detection, neither of which we can do regularly.
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:::(this indentation indicates a reply to @asqwde) Why do you not support this, though?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:24, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
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* File:Offline Editor Share Icon.png
::::Hey, asqwde, if ya remain silent I won't know what the problem is, and I'll just put it in without a second thought - what's the reason you don't support?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:17, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Since we don't have any valid rejects (yet) when is this planning to implemented? <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:05, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:51, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
I support '''+1''' <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:17, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:This has now been added to the MediaWiki:Common.js file. If you would like to opt out of being warned about signing, you may add the line:<syntaxhighlight lang="javascript">mw.loader.load('/w/index.php?title=User:Kenny2scratch/signraw.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');</syntaxhighlight>to [[Special:MyPage/common.js|your common.js file]]. {{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:33, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::I currently don't have my own common.js file, do I need to add anything else to the page other than that line of code?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 23:35, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::@D_S Just that line of code. :)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 23:44, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I forgot to mention that you should create your common.js file if it doesn't yet exist, the contents of which should be that line. ._.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:31, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== New page for mall simulators ==
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=== Remember to take this opportunity to ''clean up'' articles as well as update them! ===
{{not done}}
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==== Fix typography or other writing issues as you come across them ====
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We don't want to have to make a second sweep to clean up all the weird grammar from tense changes. Remember to fix the grammar and spelling of the articles ''as a whole'' while you update them.
  
Should we make a new page for mall simulators? Mall simulators are sort of big with the biggest mall simulator (Palace of Points) having more than 1400 members. Should we create a page for it? <scratchsig>Sti_scratch</scratchsig> 04:55, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
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==== Ask for help when you need it ====
:Maybe not as a whole page, but as a section in [[Simulation Projects]]?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:11, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
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If a page or redirect needs to be deleted or you need some other admin action, leave a message at [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests]]. If you don't specifically need admin actions, you can ask anyone you think would know the answer to your question.
::Mall simulators, let me explain, are studios where people can register and make projects and add them to the studio. These projects are shops, where people (that are registered in a mall simulator the shop is added in) can buy from. Mall simulators invent their own currency, not tradeable for real money, that is used within the mall simulator itself. So, I don't really think it would fit there since it's technically not a project. <scratchsig>Sti_scratch</scratchsig> 08:54, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::That's a new kind of [[shop]]. Actually, there is no article to write about it, I think. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 12:56, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Yeah, it means that we have to create two pages. for the shops and the sim itself. <scratchsig>Sti_scratch</scratchsig> 03:34, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Couldn't shops in the mall simulators be a sub-section?<scratchsig>Purple_Ember</scratchsig> 04:27, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Compliment Tuesday! November 27{{th}}, 2018 ==
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=== Here's to a good 3.0 release! ===
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[[File:Hooray.png]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:40, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
  
1:Welcome to the 16{{th}} Compliment Tuesday! November 27{{th}}, 2018.
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:Oh I thought a bot would do it :P also are we saving old articles, for example Block Plugin(2.0)?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
2:WOW! Look at all these compilments. This is truly amazing!
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::I thought we were moving 2.0 to a different place and 3.0 to where 2.0 used to be. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 16:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::Removed some articles from the list :)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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::::Should [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Front Page (2.0)]] be updated? It's so similar to [[Front Page]], that it seems redundant to create a new page.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::::I noticed that many of the things needed to be changed were the same in 2.0 and 3.0. What should we do? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::::[[S:STYLE#no-ext-wikilinks|Please don't externally link to Wiki pages!]] And [[S:STYLE#no-link-underscores|please don't use underscores in links]].
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:::::I'm pretty sure it's the pictures that need updating. Would you mind adding all the files on that page that need updating to the [[#Progress]] list?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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::::::Nothing has changed between 2.0 to 3.0 in Front Page, Messages, Discuss, Profiles. (Maybe more but these are all I've been to). The Project page and project editor are the only ones that have. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::::::The front page has changed, they've just been using the 3.0 skin for a while. Notice how the top bar is bright blue there and on project pages but a darker blue in discuss and the profiles as well as studios. Messages have also been at the 3.0 skin for a while. My stuff (and everything in it, like trash) has not been updated either. <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  02:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
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::::::::Also I think "Images of stuff in 2.0 should be updated to 3.0." should be included.  {{#ifeq:|nobr|<br/>|}}[[File:VFDan.png|20px|link=User:VFDan]]{{nbsp}}{{link style|User:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=VFDan}}{{nbsp}}<span style="border: 2px solid cyan; border-radius:1px 0 0 10px">{{nbsp}}{{link style|User talk:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Talk}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;">{{nbsp}}{{link style|Special:Contributions/VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Contribs}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;border-radius:0px 10px 1px 0px">{{nbsp}}<span class="plainlinks">{{User:12944qwerty/CPL|link=https://scratch.mit.edu/users/VFDan|text=On Scratch&nbsp;|color:orange;font-weight:bold}}</span></span>  22:03, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
  
'''What is Compliment Tuesday?'''
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== scratchblocks version parameter ==
  
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! {{e|:)}}
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{{done}}<br/>
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I was thinking we should have a version parameter for scratchblocks so that we could see what they looked like in previous versions of Scratch. This would be useful for articles that cover previous versions of Scratch.<br/>
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Example: <code><nowiki><scratchblocks version="2.0"></scratchblocks></nowiki></code>{{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 20:40, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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:I definitely support! When we were moving to 3.0 I originally thought that we would keep the old sb extension and just change the tag to "scratchblocks2" (or something like that), and make a new one for 3.0 and it would have a "scratchblocks" tag.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:52, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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::I definitely agree! Having this would be better for the old 2.0 pages. '''+1''' {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 21:59, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
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:::Support! I do think we should also be able to view what the old blocks look like, because it might be useful in some situations (who knows?). <scratchsig>NilsTheBest</scratchsig> 02:22, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
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::::Be careful: Long comment. Nutshell: too hard to implement
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::::This is apple502j, the one who made ScratchBlocks4 extension. I know what you need, and it's nice. I'd wanted to make it possible to install both (2.0 version and 3.0 version) version to MediaWiki, but it was too hard to do so.
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::::Old scratchblocks (Old for short) and new scratchblocks (New for short) uses the same global(window.) variable name. If you install Old first and New second, Old's JS variable is gone, and vise versa. I tried to solve the problem by replacing the name of New JS with a simple Python script, but it didn't work well. Without the script, we had to manually change it, which is also too hard. To make ScratchBlocks4 available earlier, I had to cut the feature.
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::::Old and New also use the same identifier inside MediaWiki. This was a bit easier than that JS one.
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::::While it's possible to beg tjvr, it would still need time. For this reason, I think it's hard to implement. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 06:54, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
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:::::I support! Now I know it's hard to implement, but it becomes easier if we accept a tradeoff: each article can only have one scratchblocks version. That way there aren't any name conflicts and it'll still work fine. I'll look into it later.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:08, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
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::::::I was thinking that each version of scratchblocks should be stored in a different global variable (new idea made from Apple502j's explanation), but your idea sounds more practical!{{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 02:05, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Scratchblocks already allows you to render either in Scratch 2 or Scratch 3 style, so possibly you could make that feature available? https://github.com/scratchblocks/scratchblocks/releases (That page also explains how to scale scratchblocks to 67.5%, I suppose you mean to fix that soon?) <scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 08:14, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::::We already scale scratchblocks to that size, but with a different method, because the method on that page doesn't take into account that the space taken up remains unchanged (it was designed for the scratchblocks.github.io page).
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::::::You have a point! We don't need to include different versions of scratchblocks to render different versions of Scratch! I'll get to it right away.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}
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TESTING
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<sb version=2.0>move (10) steps</sb><sb version=3.0>move (10) steps</sb> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:49, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::::::Oh! Sorry, it's just on my end (SeaMonkey 2.49.4) that they appear huge. It says <code>TypeError: item.viewBox.baseVal is null</code>. <scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 00:48, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::::::<code>setAttribute</code> does work, though. <scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 07:38, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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:Ayy, it worked!!! {{done}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:54, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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::Yay! <span style="font-size:10%">I know I'm late...</span> {{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 17:08, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
  
'''How to Compliment'''
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== Compliment Tuesday! March 19{{th}}, 2019 ==
  
We have a whole wiki page on it! {{e|:D}} You can find it here: [[Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday|Compliment Tuesday]]
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{{Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday/archive 018}}
  
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
  
'''Compliments'''
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The next CT is March 26{{th}}. See you then!
  
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:06, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:06, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
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:::I created a new Thread about [[#Changes to Compliment Tuesday?]] like Ken suggested. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:03, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
  
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== Help needed in the international Scratch Wiki ==
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{{done}}
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Who of you can help here?
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* [[:tw:User talk:Mtwoll#DACH and French Scratch Wiki main page style,bot problems,some "Help:"pages are missing and Turkish Scratch Wiki infrastructure]]
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Thank you very much in advance! {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 05:25, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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:I would love to help but I'm not an international wiki coach :P<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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::Every Scratch Wiki author can start to coach at the international Scratch Wiki, just get you an account here: [[:tw:Special:RequestAccount]]
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* Is it really true that nobody of you found time to help our fellow Turkish Scratcher until now? :-(
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{{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 11:01, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::Oops...I solved problems but I forgot to say that.Thanks for all helps to all Wiki admins,[[User:MartinWollenweber]] and all users in the Wikis.<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 12:29, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::Thank you very much!!! I am realy happy that my guess above, that nobody helped was wrong. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 12:37, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::::@MartinWollenweber I applied! Fingers crossed! :)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:56, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::::@Jakel181 Great! see [[:tw:User talk:Jakel181]] {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 10:46, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::::::Thank you!<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:35, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
  
{| class="wikitable" width="100%"
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== Archive Time! ==
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! User
 
! Compliments
 
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| {{user|Kenny2scratch}}
 
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* Thank you for your help with the Scratch+C64 article, your comments were really helpful to strengthen the relation to Scratch.<scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 16:51, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you for accepting me to be a Wikian! <scratchsig>12944qwerty</scratchsig> 22:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* We can never give you enough thanks for everything you do for the wiki! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Jakel181}}
 
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* Thank you for helping me out with all the questions I had! <scratchsig>12944qwerty</scratchsig> 22:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for everything you do for us, and doing Compliment Tuesday! {{e|:D}}{{unsigned|Bigpuppy}}
 
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| {{user|Cinnamon bun puff}}
 
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* Thank you for regularly updating the [[Featured Studios#Currently Featured Studios]] list! You're keeping the Wiki up-to-date {{e|:)}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* As per above - making sure things are correct is a very important job! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Apple502j}}
 
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* Thanks for always seeing when someone does something incorrectly! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Banana439monkey}}
 
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* Thank you for your brilliant activity on this wiki! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Drunken_Sailor}}
 
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* Thanks for being so active and a helpful contributor to discussions! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|4199531979353717123}}
 
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* You make such helpful edits, and you're very active! Thank you {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|-ShadowOfTheFuture-}}
 
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* Thank you for your work on [[Going Off the Scratch Screen Edge]], and your activity! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|12944qwerty}}
 
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* Thank you for creating [[Going Off the Scratch Screen Edge]], and for being so active! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|C700}}
 
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* Thanks for being so interested in the wiki right off the bat! We look forward to your future edits! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|MartinWollenweber}}
 
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* Thank you for your hosting work and everything else you do for us! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|LiFaytheGoblin}}
 
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* Thank you for being a Scratch Team representative who is active on the wiki, and for posting Wiki Wednesday posts! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Makethebrainhappy}}
 
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* Thank you for making the Wiki Wednesday posts, and for doing everything else you do! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Jvvg}}
 
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* Thank you for everything you've done/are doing for us! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Frodewin}}
 
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* Thanks for being so active here! You're amazing! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Asqwde}}
 
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* Thanks for all you've done on/for the wiki! You're amazing! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|1a3c5e7g9i}}
 
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* I love your userpage, signature, etc.! You're really cool! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|CrazyBoy826}}
 
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* You've made so many edits! Thank you - you're really helpful! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|NYCDOT}}
 
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* You made so many edits over the summer and were so active! Thank you for everything you've done; we're looking forward to seeing your future edits contributions to the wiki! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Snowy-The-Dog}}
 
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* Lol - I love how you state that you aren't a dog on your userpage! {{e|:P}} We're looking forward to your future edits and contributions to the wiki! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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|{{user|Bigpuppy}}
 
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* You are so kind, with all your compliments! They are very sincere! Thank you for finding the good in all of us.:)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:39, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you for helping all around the wiki, participating in discussions and helping maintain the wiki's high standard!{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:58, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|}
 
  
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^^^ :D 08:47, 9 April 2019 (UTC){{User:Apple502j/siggy}}
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:*[[S:CPND#Should "Griffpatch" become a wiki article?]]
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:Not sure if done?
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:*[[S:CPND#Relax S:NOSP even more]]
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:*[[S:CPND#What should we call the Scratch 3.0 player?]]
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:*[[S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use]]
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:yay! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:20, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
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:{{done}} btw{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:14, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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== Add admin request to the archive. ==
  
The next CT is December 4{{th}}, 2018! See you then!
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Should we add (completed) admin requests to the archive? It seems like the Done Requests are starting to pile up.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:38, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
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:Ach, I knew there was something I forgot... I've archived all the admin requests now. {{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:52, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
  
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:20, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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== Is this edit good? ==
:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:20, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::Note: Thank you {{user|12944qwerty|name}} for pointing this out to me: it was not them that created [[Going Off the Scratch Screen Edge]], but {{user|mohie|name}}. I'm sorry, this was my bad. Thank you 12944qwerty for being so active, however; you're awesome! And Mohie, you are too! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:42, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Bot Shortcut for GA Stats ==
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I've finally done my first true edit on the site! Its the [[/Creating_a_Multiplayer_Game | Creating a Multiplayer Game]] article. It said that it needed some of thelanguage used to be changed. I've mostly changed the text in the scripts. Does anyone aprove of the edit? I mean, it's good for a first! <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 23:05, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
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:Hi, nice to know you're engaged in this wiki!
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:I noticed that you made a lot of edits for this, which is fine, but it takes more work for admins to patrol them. To avoid this in the future, you can use the ''show preview'' button at the bottom.
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:I also noticed how you formatted you links. I'm glad that you used the internal link format, but you didn't have to rename it. <code>|NAME]]</code> (that part). As long as you inputted the link where you want to go, and its not named to something else. (for example, [[S:CHEAT|cheatsheet]], look inside). You also included a '/'. This will bring the link to the subpage of the current page. It will most likely bring you to a non-existent page. Look inside if you don't know how to fix the link for the answer. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 00:23, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
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<!-- Hi!, if you're looking at this, you may want have not understood how to fix the link.
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Answer - [[Creating a Multiplayer Game]]. -->
  
GA stats should have a a shortcut. Like [[B:IWB/GA]]? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 02:54, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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Ok, I'll try to keep my edits to one whole batch. Thanks for telling me! :) <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 09:59, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
:Actually, I think it should be a main shortcut like [[S:GA]] -> [[User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:37, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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:::Hi, in your posts, you included posts without [[S:INDENT|indents]]. We use indents to show who is replying to who. Otherwise it will look broken, and not clean. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:04, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 04:58, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Assets Page ==
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Yeah - I'm just getting used to how the wiki works. Thanks, anyway! <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 18:06, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::::{{done|Patrolled, reviewed, patched up}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:18, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
  
Hi everyone! On the Community Portal on the forums, there has been a request for a page about assets on the wiki. I just want to get your opinion on whether it'd be worthwhile writing an article on it?
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== Merging page ==
{{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  20:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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I'm planning to merge [[Slideshows]] to [[How_to_Create_a_Slideshow| How to Create a Slideshow]]. If this gets accepted, I'll merge them, and then I'll say here to delete the page merged. <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:36, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
:Pretty good idea. :ok_hand:  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 08:20, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
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:Hi, when merging pages, we would just put a redirect instead of deleting. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:20, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
::I asked them, on the topic, for more clarification on the idea before we start making it.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:11, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
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::Before the pages are merged, we need to confirm that they ''should'' be merged. There isn't a topic on the page's talk page, so I suggest you open one to discuss whether they should be merged there.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:10, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::{{Done}}{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 21:37, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
  
== 3.0 Release: 2.0 "Archiving" ==
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== Moving domain of special-case wikis ==
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{{done|Domains changed}}
  
Hi everyone, just wanted to say - Scratch 3 gets released very soon, so that means that we need to make sure everything about 2.0 has been "archived" on the wiki. Are there any pages that need more info to do with 2.0? (e.g images?) Because after about a month, there won't be a chance to screenshot parts of the website etc.
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Hello everyone,
  
EDIT: We'll also need to start a page on the development of Scratch 3.0 before the chance to screenshot parts of the beta is gone.
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I’ll get right to the point. Currently, there are three "special case" Wikis, which have domains according to scratch-*.info instead of *.scratch-wiki.info.
{{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  16:08, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
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These cause several problems:
:I agree, we should have a 2.0 archive in some shape or form. Though we can still get most 2.0 editor images relatively easily because the offline editor is still available to be downloaded. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
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* Links to them in Scratch comments [https://github.com/LLK/scratch-www/issues/1884 aren’t clickable]
:Well, [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles]] will come into play upon release... I think I'll supervise the transfer of those articles to mainspace while other EWs help out in other areas. (The details will be worked out later.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:24, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
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* People keep asking why those domains are special
::If possible, please screenshot all the pages with old navbar. (Like project pages) Credits, Educators and Parents page will also need screenshots. Localized versions are also welcomed. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:22, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
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* Code linking to those wikis has to be duplicated
:::I've started [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Development of Scratch 3.0]]. If anyone wants to help, that'd be much appreciated! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  16:03, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I'm helping! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:38, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::: Thank you! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  16:51, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::@ken Possibly we (or/and your bot) can move articles to articlename (2.0) and add the previous version template to specified pages?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 19:31, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
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But some articles shouldn't have (2.0) after them... it'll really have to be decided on a case-by-case basis, so that's why I'll be there.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:41, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Contributions ==
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On the GitHub issue I linked above, LiFay suggested moving the special cases to normal domains, and having the “special case” domains redirect to the normal ones. I think this is a good idea, but we need more discussion on it first.
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Moving it:
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* Solves all the problems above
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* Makes things consistent
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However, it also:
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* Needs redirecting
  
So, I was looking at my [[Special:Contributions/12944qerty|contributions]] and I found that many of the contribs I did were on pages with the User: namespace or the User talk: namespace. I feel that this wouldn't show our contributions to the Wiki. Is there any ways to change this? Or is it from the mw software? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:08, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
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What are your thoughts? Should we move, or no? What else is there to consider?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:02, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
:Yes and Yes, :) Select the namespace as "User", then click "Invert selection", and "Associated Namespace" You can view it [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=12944qwerty&namespace=2&nsInvert=1&associated=1&tagfilter=&year=2018&month=-1 here]. :)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 02:25, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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:The special-domains of those wikis only have historically reasons and so I vote for moving them to the domains with the same structure as all others while additional making them fully accessible under their historic domains. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:07, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
::That wasn't what I was completely looking for. I also want it to remove multiple namespaces than just one. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 03:12, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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::I agree to [[User:MartinWollenweber|MartinWollenweber]] but technically,it's very hard(because that means clon the Wikis) and clon the Wikis mean more memory and more technical problems.Therefore,this isn't a good idea but special cases are historical signature of the Wikis,so I suggest if a Wiki has a special domain,we can move all files to special domain and we can close standart domains for that wiki or we can remove all special domain.This is a hard problem.<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 08:42, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
:::Not possible on the Special:Contributions page, but the [[mw:API:Usercontribs|<code>usercontribs</code> API module]] allows filtering multiple namespaces. [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=query&format=json&list=usercontribs&uclimit=500&ucuser=12944qwerty&ucnamespace=0%7C1%7C4%7C5 This]<!-- I have to use an external link because the # part gets corrupted --> will get you your contributions (up to 500 of them, press the "continue" button to get more) in the (main), Talk, Scratch Wiki, and Scratch Wiki talk namespaces.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:38, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
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:::I think you misunderstand - we're not cloning the wikis; we are only making one domain point to the other. (It's like putting down two road signs - one says "de.scratch-wiki.info" and the other says "scratch-dach.info" but the other points you to the one.) The main concerns are really just the redirects. And our decision needs to take everyone else into account! Are you for or against?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:12, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
::::I did that but it is giving me a request URL??? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 20:18, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
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::::Update after yesterday: The domains have been changed as planned. Redirects are also in place. All scratch-*.info domains are now properly *.scratch-wiki.info. {{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:06, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::That's right. Go to that page, copy&paste the link, and open it. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:22, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Everything you wanted to know about Snap!... ==
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== Changes to Compliment Tuesday? ==
{{done}}
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I'm a big fan of motivating things like "Compliment Tuesday" but couldn't it be more effective, if we decrease the times per year say down to 4 or 2? It's more motivating honored and to be honored rarely by manny than often by just a few...  {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 06:26, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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:I'm on board with that, currently we do Compliment Tuesday, every Tuesday, when there is four or more compliments. Though doing it every 6 months seems too far apart, but if we do it once a month, say the first Tuesday of the month, it's often enough that I don't forget, ;) but not too often that it is not that effective. What do you think?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:33, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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::I think you should start a new thread regarding this. ;){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::I created this new Thread about [[#Changes to Compliment Tuesday?]] like Ken suggested. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:04, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::{{done|The new CT/TT system is in place}}{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 19:59, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
  
but never dared to ask, now it's your chance to directly talk to Brian Harvey, one of the developers of [[Snap!]], from Uni Berkeley at the next Scratch Club. If you are interested in joining the Scratch Club (via Google hangout, you need to be 18+ or have your parent's consent) please contact us here. The next Scratch Club with Brian Harvey as guest will be on Wednesday, December 19, 2018, at 20:00 CET and will be held in English. If you cannot join, you can also post some questions to discuss here. <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 11:42, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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== The bot tweaker has no Im A bot template, It may make confusion. ==
:8pm CET is 3am HKT... I really want to join, but I'm likely not going to be able to. I'll leave questions here.
 
:* Snap! is too complicated for the age range of the vast majority of Scratchers, but for older ones like myself and many people here it's just right. Do you forsee Snap! being a teaching tool for teens the same way Scratch is for kids?
 
:* Scratch 3.0 is being released soon, and with it a cleaner and improved user interface design. Do you think an update to Snap! to mimic the new 3.0 design would be a good idea? (Minus the annoying parts of the design, such as the thicker blocks, and with modifications as you may see fit.)
 
:That's all I have for the moment, but I'll definitely post more as I think of them.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:27, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::QQ: Should I share this opportunity via Twitter?
 
::Here are my questions about Snap:
 
::*How would you optimize Snap to solve mathematical problems/applications/computer science problems where large data sets are involved?
 
::*Do demonstrations in Snap help Students understand structures in other programming languages? <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 22:25, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I will ask your questions and protocol the answers. Regarding Twitter, the Scratch Club is very open to new people, but they should have some connection to our Wiki, so it depends who is addressed. Makethebrainhappy, are you going to join? <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 20:51, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I'd love to but I am busy at that time. Twitter is our medium to communicate with other educators and adults who do not frequent the Scratch Wiki. Based on that description, I will refrain from putting a mention on Twitter. :) <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::It was a very nice talk, we even learned about some of Snap!'s secret features. There is a protocol of it on the [[de:SC|Scratch Club page]]. <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 23:32, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Compliment Tuesday! December 18{{th}}, 2018 ==
 
 
{{done}}
 
{{done}}
Welcome to the 17{{th}} Compliment Tuesday! December 18{{th}}, 2018.
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If you look o the page https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=bot You see that tweaker is a bot. If you look at [[User:Tweaker]], you don't see the template.
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<scratchsig>Ideapad-320</scratchsig> 16:14, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
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: That template was never used on that bot's page (Plus, the bot was only used to replace WikiMonitor temporarily) (and as a reminder Ideapad, please use proper spelling and grammar on the wiki, this is a "professional" wiki). <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 05:29, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
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::Tweaker was always meant to be temporary, and it never got proper bot rights nor was it ever really a bot. The link to [[Special:Log]] on its userpage was meant to show recent things it might have done. It doesn't really deserve the "I'm a bot" template.
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::@Jammum, your point is clear but harshly made. @Ideapad-320: Thanks for pointing it out, and I hope my reply clarifies things. Do remember that we're a professional<small>(-ish)</small> encyclopedia, and proper spelling and grammar in a talk page help get your meaning across better. :) But if that's too much, as long as you use proper typography in mainspace articles then that's fine (though we may misunderstand you at times).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 18:03, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
  
'''What is Compliment Tuesday?'''
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== Just a question... ==
  
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! {{e|:)}}
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{{done}}Hello all, I was just wondering if anything big has happened on the wiki, or if there is something I should know about because I have <small>sadly</small> not been on the wiki for a long time. Kenny, if this is not allowed go ahead and delete it. {{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:51, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
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:The policy [[User:Kenny2scratch|Scratch Wiki:Kenny is not here]] is made. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:22, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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:Please don't call me Kenny! Also, you don't need to specifically call me out - any admin will do the same :)
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:Nothing big has happened that I can remember, but we have the upcoming possibility of the [[#Moving domain of special-case wikis|domain change]] for the German, Indonesian, and Russian wikis. (Anybody reading this: we need opinions on that!){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:26, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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::Got It!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 11:29, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
  
'''How to Compliment'''
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== New About Page ==
  
We have a whole wiki page on it! {{e|:D}} You can find it here: [[Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday|Compliment Tuesday]]
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{{done|Ken Said I Need To Fix It Up A Bit}}<br/>
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Hello all, I was thinking recently that the About page should be change to be more standardized. Please check [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/User:NYCDOT/Sandbox my sandbox] to see what I mean. Let me see what you guys think!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 21:08, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
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:It's good but I think real [[Scratch Wiki:About]] page is better than your About page.However,I saw your categorization system and I think this is a good idea!We should apply this system in the About page.<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 08:26, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
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::When I was talking about the about page, I meant only the Int'l section. Sorry for any confusion! But, thanks for the positive feedback.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 12:16, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::Can we get an admin to check this?{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 23:36, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::It's not a bad idea, but I am not sure about leaving so much whitespace. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:50, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
  
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== Not Done-Moving ==
  
'''Compliments'''
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Should I take all the not done topics at the top of the page, "ctrl-x" 'em and paste them in not done? {{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 22:29, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
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:No, the not done topics will be move by their authors when the topic doesn't end/finish/solve after a really long time. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
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::Well then, I will move my ND post when I get hold of a computer, not a mobile phone. {{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 02:20, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::Just an update, you can move other people's Not Done posts as long as it has been >1-2 months since the last reply. This topic is {{done}}{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 13:55, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::Oh, oops. I meant that generally the author's move it instead of others <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:00, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
  
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
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== List of deleted pages ==
  
{| class="wikitable" width="100%"
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(Brought up here after discussion [[User talk:Jammum#About your Deleted Pages page|here]].)
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! User
 
! Compliments
 
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| {{user|KrIsMa}}
 
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* Thank you for protecting the CT archive so fast! (2 minutes, that's a new record :P)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:27, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Jakel181}}
 
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* Thanks for your help, especially for contributing this neat template for [[Scratch and Commodore 64/Corresponding Scratch Code| corresponding scratch code]] <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 21:18, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you for listening to my 'music' (although I had doubts it was good music - now I know it probably isn't as bad as I thought it was.) {{smile}} <br/> {{User:KrIsMa/Sig}}  12:06, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Frodewin}}
 
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* Don't know if I did this already, but thank you for creating [[Scratch and Commodore 64]] so suddenly! From my perspective, it sprung up out of the blue, which was very nice since it was a complete article from the start. Very well written and well improved afterwards! :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:23, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Bharvey}}
 
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* THANK YOU for updating the [[Snap! (programming language)]] article! I was rather disappointed that such an influential subject was so outdated here, and then you, a very long-time editor with canonical knowledge of the subject, came out of the blue and updated it. The article looks very complete and up-to-date now, so I think you have achieved your purpose admirably. I hope you can continue contributing to other articles as well :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:49, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 
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|{{user|12944qwerty}}
 
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* Thanks so much for helping me out with [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Development of Scratch 3.0]], and being super active on the wiki in general! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  09:41, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|ErnieParke}}
 
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* Thanks for running IWB!{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:27, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|InterwikiBot}}
 
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* You add interwiki links so many times! And thanks for running GA Stats! {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:27, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 
|}
 
  
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So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:
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* [[User:Mathfreak231/Deleted pages recovery|Mathfreak231's]], which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
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* [[User:kenny2scratch/Deleted pages recovery|Mine]], which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
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* [[User:Jammum/Deleted Pages|Jammum's Deleted Pages]], which are more recent than either of the above
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* [[User:Jammum/All Pages That Have Been Deleted|Jammum's All Deleted Pages]], which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)
  
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I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]].
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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;Advantages
 
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* More organized
The next CT is December 25{{th}}, 2018! (Christmas!) See you then!
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* One place for all
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* Can be updated by anyone
  
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 23:28, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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;Disadvantages
:{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 23:28, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
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:''None I can think of off the top of my head''
::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 04:59, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Split the Paint Article ==
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Thoughts? Shall we do it?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
{{not done}}
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:I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::+1 :) {{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::: Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side? <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::: I think the page will not be notable enough to go there. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::::I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]]. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}I say aye.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
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:@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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:: Are we going to do this? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
  
I was browsing the wiki and noticed that the Paint editor article ([[Paint Editor|here]]) is '''really''' long and could possibly be split up into three different articles: History of the paint editor, 2.0 Bitmap Paint editor, and 2.0 Vector Paint Editor. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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== The Not Done Topic Directory ==
:It is kinda long, but so is the CP, and do we split this? I realize it's not exactly the same thing, but it's not long enough to truly need splitting.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:03, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::in Japanese wiki, we ''did'' split it. At that time, "Types of Graphics", "Bitmap Editor", "Vector Editor", "Bitmap and Vector Comparison", "Paint Editor Conversion", "Interaction With Other Programs", "Example Uses", and "Alternatives" section is kept. Others are moved to version subpages, such as [[Paint Editor (2.0)]]. Guess what will happen next January here, without the change.
 
::By the way, block workaround page is enough big to split, too, I think. It will be good for performance issues. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 08:24, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Currently, [[Bitmap Editor]] redirects to [[Paint Editor#Bitmap Editor]]. The bitmap editor is a large part of Scratch, so I think it needs its own article. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 01:29, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::So [[Vector Editor]] too?{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 03:25, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::I merged the previous 'The "Bitmap Editor" Page' topic with this one that I pulled from the archives, as I realize that the original one shouldn't have been archived. If the replies by CrazyBoy826 onwards seem out of context, that's why.
 
:::::Next question: "Paint Editor" will have to redirect to either Bitmap or Vector Editor (not a disambig page, because there's only two). Which one?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:19, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::There are some sections that cannot be on the two: Types of Graphics,  Bitmap and Vector Comparison, Costume Pane, Basic Options, Interaction With Other Programs, Example Uses, History, and Alternatives. Keep them on [[Paint Editor]].{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 10:40, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Planned downtime at 07:00 UTC ==
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{{done|Duplicate}}<br/>
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This will be a directory of the not done topics located [[S:CPND|here]]. I'll appreciate all feedback, whether good or bad. This is an "more professional/eye-appealing" directory than apple502j's (no offense.) Here it is:
  
All wikis will be put into read-only mode at 7:00 AM (UTC) to move the files between machines. This means that you will not be able to edit pages, upload files, or make any kind of database-modifying actions. This is so that you do not lose your work after the transfer. This transfer will have the advantage of giving us more control over our own systems.
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====Scratch 3.0/Version Standardizing====
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* [[S:CPND#A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All|1.0/2.0/3.0 Standardization]]
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* [[S:CPND#3.0 Updating|Updating Articles for Scratch 3.0]]
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* [[S:CPND#What should we call the Scratch 3.0 Player?|What is the Scratch 3.0 Player Called?]]
  
We have seen issues caused by read-only mode before, including but not limited to broken file thumbnails. If you see any issues, feel free to take note of them and report them after the transfer is done, but most likely the issues will disappear once the wikis are no longer read-only.
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====For Editors (Backend)====
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* [[S:CPND#Embedding of Scratch Projects|Embed Scratch Projects onto Pages]]
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* [[S:CPND#VisiualEditor extension|Getting VisiualEditor for the Scratch Wiki]]
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* [[S:CPND#Account Request Notes|Making Account Request Notes more "engraining"]]
  
Letting you know,{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:45, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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====Pages====
:{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:25, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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* [[S:CPND#Help:Contents Is missing some help pages|Help:Contents is not complete]]
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* [[S:CPND#Not Done doesn't get enough attention|Not Done is not getting attention]]
  
== Transfer Done! ==
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====Rules====
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* [[S:CPND#custom signatures|To Enforce, To not Enforce S:SIG]]
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* [[S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use|The deletion of Fair Use Images due to German Server Location]]
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* [[S:CPND#Relax S:NOSP even more|To Relax, To not Relax S:NOSP]]
  
All wikis are on the correct domains again, but now we have more control over our backend.
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====Interwiki====
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* [[S:CPND#We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"|The Int'l Wikis need "coaches"!]]
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* [[S:CPND#Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal?|Why is Interwiki not possible in the English CP?]]
  
Thank you for your patience! It's been a long three days but now it's over.
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For archived topics, please go to my userpage at [[User:NYCDOT|NYCDOT's Userpage]]{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 21:34, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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:Two things...
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:We already have a directory. The very first topic on this page.
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:Ummm, too many edits. Use preview more often please.<br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 21:44, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::I know we have a directory-this is supposed to be a more "proffesional/eye-appealing one." Sorry for the many RCs.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 22:40, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::Duplicate. Please suggest your changes to apple502j instead of making a new one. We are not using this.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:01, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
  
Kenny2scratch;
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== When confirming my email ==
  
A Bureaucrat will provide more information as time comes.
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I have not confirmed my email yet, and I'm thinking doing so. However, can the checkmarks below the button to confirm be able to be turned on and off? <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 22:51, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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:Yes they are I believe{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 22:58, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::Ok. <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 23:28, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::{{done}}{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:07, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
  
{{note|a lot of “Resource Limit Is Reached” errors, but we'll get that fixed soon.}}
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== Templates for note pitches and values ==
  
<small>Copied from [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/294197/?page=10#post-3364967 here] and [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/294197/?page=10#post-3364998 here] and reposting it here in the CP while Ken is asleep, and while the wiki is temporarily up.</small><scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:42, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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Since [[Play Note () for () Beats (block)]], [[Play Drum () for () Beats (block)]], [[MIDI Notes]], and [[Composing Music]] all have near-identical sections on MIDI note pitches and values, could these be placed in templates? (The only differences are that the paragraph before the table of note values is different on the Play Drum article, and the MIDI Notes article uses &amp;nbsp;.) <scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 23:18, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
:The errors have died down now that the Wikis are done reeling from the transfer. I've also written a little bit about this transfer in [[Scratch Wiki#Server Transfer 2]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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:Omigod they're so similar I didn't know that they were c&ped! I'll get to it.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:16, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
::@kenny2scratch: Well Done!! Thank you very much! :) {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 14:35, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
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::{{done|[[Template:MIDI Notes|Done]] and [[Template:MIDI Beats|done]]}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:29, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
:::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Wrong Link to Featured Article ==
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== EW Elections ==
 
{{done}}
 
{{done}}
  
On the front page of the Wiki, if you click "Read more..." or the title, it brings you to a page about SDS curators, but the image showing belongs to [[Getting Started with Scratch|a page about getting started with Scratch]]. I don't know how to fix it, I've made a note about it on the real featured article's talk page. If it get's resolved I'll delete the talk page. <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig> 01:26, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hello everyone! This might seem a little far-fetched, but should we have another election in June possibly? A couple of our current EWs have been inactive recently (like customhacker) and I want to say that 80% of the EW/Administrative Work is being done by Ken. I don't want to put a burden on him, so in the event that someone <small>finally lol</small> likes this idea, please "critique" my thoughts!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 14:18, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
:{{done|Fixed}} FWIW - it'll get changed again in a few days.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:03, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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:Unfortunately, only the admins/buraucrats can decide when to have an elections.<br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:16, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks :) <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  23:17, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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::I know that, but I believe reading sonewhere it said with enough wikian support/lack of EWs is enough to have one.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 17:18, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::I think Scratch Wiki has enough sysops and EWs already.But it can be a good idea because some sysops and EWs look like retired and a little of users are still working and active(like [[User:Kenny2scratch|Ken]]).I'm neutral about the Elections.<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 17:24, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::Ultimately it’s up to the Admins and Bureaucrats. I agree Ken has a lot of work. If he thinks it is too much we should have an election. If it’s not one is not necessary in my opinion. But if admins disagree make sure to respect their decision and authority! {{E|:D}} {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 20:41, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Thanks for the feedback.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 21:18, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::::Ken hasn’t been active for two days. Whilst their hasn’t been any serious admin concerns the role is to build up the community. Not just to prevent vandalism. So in my opinion, Election time! {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 17:00, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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Hmm, even though it's been 2 days, we wouldn't have the need of claiming he isn't active. If he disappears from the [[Special:ActiveUsers|active user list]], then i would agree he isn't active. He could be on vacation right now. As far as I can see, the only admins that are normally active are @ken and @jvvg and @bigpuppy (i know he isn't a admin, but he is a EW). <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:47, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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:I agree to @12944qwerty,and the Wikis are still working.Therefore,we don't need an extra EW.If all admins and EWs need an extra admin or EW,we must respect their decisions.An election isn't seem in near future now.<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 18:30, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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::But, the only EW that is currently active is bigpuppy, and the only admin that is active is Kenny2scratch. Most people believe that there should be at least 2 EWs and 3 Admins active about every day, but that is clearly not the case! That's why I think there should be an election.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 21:07, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::Actually {{user|Makethebrainhappy|name}} (EW) and {{user|MartinWollenweber|name}} (bureaucrat)(mtwoll) are online as well. mtwoll isn't as active though. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 21:34, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::No, MTBH has only made two edits in the past month. That isn't active if you ask me. As for mtwoll, he is a bureaucrat, not an EW; MTwoll is actually not that active either.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 21:55, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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:::::MTBH is spontaneously active. I did say mtwoll is a bureaucrat. You need to remember that many of these people are in college or in jobs - they don't have much time, so the definitions of 'active' is different. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:08, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::::While their definitions of "active" might be different, we need multiple users of high authority to be on once a day to every three days. Having only 1 EW and 1 Admin follow this everyday is not good. That's why we need an election.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 23:31, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
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You people scare me sometimes with your prophetic power...
  
== New Page for Accepted FPC Applications + Regular FPC Applications ==
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We (the EWs) agreed a few days ago on an election in June. I'm starting to get overwhelmed by the number of edits y'all are making - I can't patrol them all myself. Additionally, June will give us time to train the EW elects so that they're just in time to help deal with the summer traffic. However, now is not the time to discuss it (and I am putting my foot down now and specifically prohibiting talk about it until it's announced), so consider this {{done}} until June. (Also, please none of you take it upon yourselves to announce the election! You're just being a nuisance and nobody will take you seriously.)
  
Hey! Should we create an article on accepted FPC applications + Regular FPC Applications? New Scratchers may not know what that means, and want to know more. Is there already an article on that?<scratchsig>Purple_Ember</scratchsig> 03:21, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
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@asqwde: I've been busy with school, which is why I haven't been on in a couple days. There are merely weeks until exams and the teachers are getting nervous. I'll have more time this coming long weekend. Besides, most of my activity is patrolling, which isn't registered on the active users page ({{e|:(}}) and which you can't see anyway.
:The Curator page links to the project explaining how to apply, I think for now that's sufficient.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:51, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Please add all approved Extensions to all Scratch Wikis ==
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@NYCDOT: Nobody ever said 2 EWs and 3 admins active every day is a good number. {{who}} Besides, when I do manage to find time to patrol, I do it all, which takes care of everything usually within a few days to a week. I'm fine on my own, but I expect that it'll be too much by summertime.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:00, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
  
@kenny2Scratch: Could you please fulfill me a great wish an add all extensions (+ other version related stuff) that have been approved in the english Scratch Wiki to all other Scratch Wikis. This is a generalisation of my specific wish, please add [[:mediawikiwiki:Extension:SyntaxHighlight]] to [[:de:Special:Version#Installed extensions]]. I think it's best for all international Scratch Wikis to profit from Extensions that have been approved in other Wikis, mostly the [[:en:]] Scratch WIki. In the (IMHO rarely) situation, that a Scratch Wiki community of a certain language doesn't want a certain Extension, it's easier to disable that Extension later, than to create a discussion process before (when nobody has seen the advantages of that new Extension).  Thank you very much in advance!
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:Hehe I check in on a daily basis here, definietely more than my edit count reveals. I mostly post on the twitter page or write Wiki Wednesday at the moment. {{wink}} If people did have questions about how the election will run, they should look at some of the previous elections ([[S:ELECTIONS]]). <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 10:34, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
  
'''References:'''
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::@ken: I can see patrolling, when I posted my last comment I saw edits hadn't been patrolled in a while, but I (and am sure others do) appreciate the work you do even if you don't always recieve the necessary credit{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:44, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
*[[:en:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
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::: June starts tomorrow. Soon time to start the election process (ish)! {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 16:59, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
*[[:de:Special:Version#Installierte_Erweiterungen]]
 
*[[:fr:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
*[[:id:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
*[[:ru:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
*[[:ja:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
*[[:nl:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
*[[:tw:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
{{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:26, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:I installed EmbedScratch, CategoryTree and YouTube (modified ver) to jawiki.
 
:AbuseFilter, CheckUser, and Lockdown are dangerous when abused. AF and CU has ability to check one's IP address.
 
:WOn't this go in testwiki?{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 16:50, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::I have already been working towards something like this... The CommonSettings.php plan is already implemented for English and Test wikis, and I'm trying to combine the other wikis' LocalSettings files as well. Part of that will include symlinking all the wikis' extensions directories to one wiki's. Once I figure out how it's going to work, this will be done.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:23, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::@Ken: Great! I hope you'll find a solution soon. If I cant't wait anymore, I will install the most wanted Extensions separately in [[:de:]] myself {{;)}}. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 14:47, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Any progress? ;-( {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 00:12, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::A little on my part, though I am only helping on a small part, with the wiki farm.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::I've now symlinked all the wikis' extensions folders to the English one, which now contains every extension any wiki has ever used. Any wiki can load any extension used by any other wiki now. (This means that the original point of this topic is {{done}} - all wikis can add all extensions if necessary.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:40, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Yay! Thanks Ken!<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:21, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Compliment Tuesday! January 1{{st}}, 2019 ==
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== Compliment Tuesday! April 29{{th}}, 2019 ==
  
 
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{{Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday/archive 019}}
{{Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday/archive 016}}
 
  
 
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
 
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
  
The next CT is January 8{{th}}, 2019! Whooo! Happy New year!!! See you then!
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The next CT is May 28{{th}}. See you then!
  
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:07, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:44, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:07, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:44, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
  
== HAPPY NEW YEAR ==
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== Happy May! ==
  
<big><big><big><big>YAY! <sup style="color:red">HAPPY </sup> <sub style="color:aqua">NEW</sub> <sup style="color:orange">YEAR</sup> <sub style="color:yellow">OF</sub> <span style="color:gold"><sup>2</sup><sub>0</sub><sup>1</sup><sub>9</sub></span>!!!!!</big></big></big></big> <br/> <big><big>2 MORE DAYS LEFT UNTIL [[Scratch 3.0|3.0]]!!!! WOOHOO</big></big><br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:34, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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It's May! And.......... yeah. It's, uh, May.<br />
:Thank you! Happy (late) New Year to you too.
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Alright who cares{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 11:29, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
:{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}} 08:15, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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:Thanks happy may the2nd to you too :){{User:JJBullet/Siggy2}} 09:34, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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::And now,it's the 11th of May;Scratch Day!Wow,1234 events!Happy birthday Scratch!<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 08:33, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::{{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:25, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
  
== Articles to update for 3.0 ==
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== Did we miss Wiki Wednesday? ==
  
{{not done|Won't be done for a long time}}
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What's going on with Wiki Wednesday?
  
Hello everyone, it's already January 2nd for me, so I figure I might as well get the preparations started.
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Specifically:
  
=== Observations/Edit Guidance ===
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# Did we miss the last WW?
Pages outdated upon 3.0 release are incredibly numerous. In most cases, one or more of the following edits can or should happen:
 
* Parts that talk about ''3.0 features'' in ''future tense'' (e.g. "there will be a new paint editor") should be changed to use ''present tense'' (e.g. "there is a new paint editor") or ''past tense'' (e.g. "a new paint editor was introduced")
 
* Parts that talk about ''3.0 changes'' in ''future tense'' (e.g. "the editor will be moved to the right side") should be changed to use ''past tense'' (e.g. "the editor was moved to the right side")
 
* Parts that mention ''dates'' in ''any tense'' should have their tense ''updated'' (e.g. "the official release will be January 2019" -> "the official release was January 2019")
 
* Parts that talk about ''2.0 features'' in ''any tense'' (e.g. "the paint editor has these features") should be changed to use ''past tense'' (e.g. "the paint editor had these features")
 
* Parts that talk about ''2.0 changes'' in ''any tense'' (e.g. "the editor was moved to the left") should all be changed to ''past tense'' if they haven't already.
 
* Take this opportunity to update things that weren't changed from 1.4 days as well.
 
  
=== Progress ===
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According to [[post:3485635]] [[Operating System]] was chosen, yet:
  
Here is a list of articles that need to be updated (on their real versions in mainspace) upon the release of 3.0. You can probably already start updating them now. Articles marked with an asterisk (*) have updates available at [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles]]/the article title, but:
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# Featured wasn't added
{{warning|do not copy articles directly from their 3.0 versions!}}
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# It wasn't protected
Though in most cases the information will be correctly updated, make sure to use your own judgement as to its accuracy.
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# It wasn't shown on the Front Page{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 12:09, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
  
{{note|Some of the articles listed below need to be created.}}
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:We have cancelled this month's Wiki Wednesday. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:40, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
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::Why??{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 22:00, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::Why we didn't know? I have waited impatiently!<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 07:56, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::We don't have a great venue for announcing this as it has never happened before. I am not sure as to the exact reasoning, but I was told that a preference existed for publishing this edition at the end of May. Whoever did submit did not submit in vain, we will be using the submissions next month. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 11:47, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::{{done}}<scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:44, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::::{{not done}}I think we have to find ways to make sure that this will not happen again. I'm afraid that if it happens more often, Wiki Wednesday is in danger to be discontinued. I suppose that the reasson this time was that the two responisble people had no time. So I would suggest that we have more than two people to be responsible, what do you think? Who wants to help? {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 12:06, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|::::::}}I'll be glad to help!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 12:08, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
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:Great, I didn't belive we would find a volunteer so fast! :-) I just was in editing my post to to add an idea that could help to create more impact with Wiki Wednesday: See https://test.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Test-Scratch-Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Wiki_Wednesday_Portal there is a sophisticated plan created 1/2018 that still is not completetly realized. I would like to assist somebody who likes to realize it. What do you think? {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 12:18, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
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::Yeah, we might have well 've edit conflicted. Anyways, I don't quite understand the picture in that post. Can you please explain?{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 16:26, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
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::: I would be happy to help as well!  <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:20, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::Great that Jakel181 and NYCDOT want to help. Perhaps it's even possible that our [https://test.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Test-Scratch-Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Wiki_Wednesday_Portal longtermplan for strengthen the impact of wikiwednesday] comes true.
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::::@Makethebrainhappy: Would you like to coordinate the engagement of Jakel181 and NYCDOT? You have most experiences with Wiki Wednesday so you could transfer your knowhow and refect improvement ideas. Perhaps you could even decide to have a changing responsibility "Wiki Wednesday coordinator of the month?"
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::::Meantime [[user:LiFaytheGoblin]] has responded to my concern/suggestion by mail:
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:::::quote: '''"Great, I'm looking for a temporary help to get involved in an emergency. I hope there is no panic now because the wiki Wednesday has failed once, that is certainly not the rule."'''
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[[File:Wiki Wednesday International Portal Construction Plan.png|thumb]]
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::::@NYCDOT: You asked for "Wiki_Wednesday_International_Portal_Construction_Plan". Did you read all the explanations at https://test.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Test-Scratch-Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Wiki_Wednesday_Portal ? The picture there is not a fully replacement of the text explanation but to help to understand the text better. The smallest boxes in the picture symbolise sections or boxes, the surounding boxes symbolise pages and the outer boxes symbolise  web-locations like Scratch-Website or a Wiki-Website of a certain language. The arrwos symbolise  links of an entity in that section where the arrow starts to an other website/page/section/box. The concept of "teaser boxes" is allready established at the german Scartch-wiki see: [[:de:Scratch-Wiki:Alle_Artikel_der_Woche]]. I hope that this helps a little bit to understand the "Wiki_Wednesday_International_Portal_Construction_Plan" better. What do you think? {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 10:30, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Ah, that makes sense now. Thanks for clearing that up. I think that's a very good idea!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:06, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::::I don't see this as a failure of the current system, since we've moved the dates around accordingly in the past to fit our schedules... it is true that I was to busy to write it on Wiki Wednesday, but I had it in for a possible April Wiki Weekend (last weekend in the month) which we have done when necessary. LiFay told me that she would prefer to release that newsletter in May which means that the next write-up is for June.
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::::::To make the system more robust, you would need to backup write-ups to default to in case a certain month hasn't been written. This kind of one-time effort to create a years-worth of back-ups would go a long way to reducing the risk of missing a date on our end and I would certainly appreciate support in that process if you want me to head in that direction.
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::::::To go through the points in the long-term planning post, I'll clear up how the articles are chosen. The process is decentralized, relying on language administrators to create processes to choose articles. In order to generate more PR-spinoff, the larger German and English Wikis have made community channels to recommend articles ([https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/288833/ here] and [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/288005/ here], respectfully). We then rely on the administrators to fill out a google form which I then convert into a post.
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::::::It would be great to have a portal for submissions that could automatically convert it to BBCode. I am not really sure how that could be done through an international wiki portal hosted here on the wikis (someone with a better programming perspective should comment on this).
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::::::You are also correct in saying that it would be better if we presented historical article selections in a better way to consumers (I particularly like your setup [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Scratch-Wiki:Alle_Artikel_der_Woche here]).
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::::::The best way to make the system more reliable on a monthly basis would be to ask the administrators to fill in the form earlier. I always get the responses either the night before or day of which makes it hard for me to include everyone and keep the submission timely.
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::::::NYCDOT and Jakel, l.m.k. what part of the process you are interested in facilitating. {{smile}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 02:17, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}Possibly compiling the submissions, if help is need in that area. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:12, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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:Yeah, as Jakel said, I would like to help compile the submissions.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 19:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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::I would be happy to have you organize the efforts to create the backup repository of Wiki Wednesday posts, which includes working with international partners to get the submissions for all the different languages and then compiling the posts for these. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:53, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
  
Feel free to update this list yourself. Add any articles that you discover that need updates; remove articles that have been updated.
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== Page with links of categorized pages ==
  
* How to Embed a Project
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<big>Before you say anything, I'll explain.</big><br />
* Blocks
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There could be a page with other pages that have pages that are stubs, articles to expand, etc.
* Change () Effect by () (sound block)
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This will make it easier to navigate, and making articles the best they can be. If there's already a page like this, I apologize for not knowing. <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 00:38, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
* Development of Scratch 3.0
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:Yes, there are already pages. [[:Category:Stubs]], [[:Category:Articles to Expand]], etc. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 02:48, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
* Project
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::If you mean a general category of stubs, articles to expand, articles not meeting wiki standards etc. we have that too, [[:Category:Pages to Improve]].{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:21, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
* File:Name bar.png
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:::Oh. <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 11:41, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
* File:Offline Editor Share Icon.png
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::::{{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:25, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
  
=== Remember to take this opportunity to ''clean up'' articles as well as update them! ===
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== Bugs about tablets ==
==== Fix typography or other writing issues as you come across them ====
 
We don't want to have to make a second sweep to clean up all the weird grammar from tense changes. Remember to fix the grammar and spelling of the articles ''as a whole'' while you update them.
 
  
==== Ask for help when you need it ====
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I clicked my page in my tablet and I saw it's blue;it had some bugs (for example;my page didn't slide; I didn't see that bugs before).I purged cache,but it didn't change.And then, I pressed my navbox's button, but it showed my references.<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 06:25, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
If a page or redirect needs to be deleted or you need some other admin action, leave a message at [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests]]. If you don't specifically need admin actions, you can ask anyone you think would know the answer to your question.
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:Would you mind providing the following information?
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* Operating system
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* Model of tablet
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* Browser
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* Page causing the problem
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:Once I know that I can help more.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:39, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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::*Operating System:Android 4.2.2
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::*Model of tablet:Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 Lite(SM-T110)
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::* Browser:Chrome 71.0.3578.99 (Chrome no longer support this tablet)
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::* Page causing the problem:It rarely seems like blue and slide down doesn't work.I can't slide the page.<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 08:28, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
  
=== Here's to a good 3.0 release! ===
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== Interwiki graphics do not work anymore ==
[[File:Hooray.png]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:40, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
:Oh I thought a bot would do it :P also are we saving old articles, for example Block Plugin(2.0)?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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For example, see graphics in [[Scratch and Commodore 64]]. They were originally uploaded in the german Wiki. Probably it is a link problem due to the alignment of German Wiki URL. <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 22:12, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
::I thought we were moving 2.0 to a different place and 3.0 to where 2.0 used to be. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 16:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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:AHHHH I knew I forgot something! {{done|Fixed}} - I've purged the page as well. Thanks for reporting!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:03, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
:::Removed some articles from the list :)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Should [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Front Page (2.0)]] be updated? It's so similar to [[Front Page]], that it seems redundant to create a new page.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::I noticed that many of the things needed to be changed were the same in 2.0 and 3.0. What should we do? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::[[S:STYLE#no-ext-wikilinks|Please don't externally link to Wiki pages!]] And [[S:STYLE#no-link-underscores|please don't use underscores in links]].
 
:::::I'm pretty sure it's the pictures that need updating. Would you mind adding all the files on that page that need updating to the [[#Progress]] list?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::Nothing has changed between 2.0 to 3.0 in Front Page, Messages, Discuss, Profiles. (Maybe more but these are all I've been to). The Project page and project editor are the only ones that have. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::::The front page has changed, they've just been using the 3.0 skin for a while. Notice how the top bar is bright blue there and on project pages but a darker blue in discuss and the profiles as well as studios. Messages have also been at the 3.0 skin for a while. My stuff (and everything in it, like trash) has not been updated either. <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  02:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== 🎉🎉 3.0 Released 🎉🎉 ==
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== Templates ==
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Is it possible for me to create a template for welcoming new wikians? I want to name it "Template: Welcomefromgod286". I'm not sure if I can. <scratchsig>God286</scratchsig> 08:20, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
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:It's possible, but not allowed - what you should instead do is make your template in userspace, like what I (and others) do: [[User:Kenny2scratch/Welcome]] which can then be transcluded by the same name.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:43, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
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:: Ok. I see. :D <scratchsig>God286</scratchsig> 03:45, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::{{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:27, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
  
horray!! it's finally here!!
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== What Happened To Archive 92? ==
  
<scratchsig>DeleteThisAcount</scratchsig> 12:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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^^ After thread six, everything ends up in Extended Content, and at one point extend content within extended content!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
:yay! 😄 <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 12:42, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Yay! {{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 17:27, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Mine hasn't shown up yet, has yours? Super excited :) <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  17:37, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::The conversion to 3.0 is still happening. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 17:44, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Okay, that's what I thought. 🎊🎉🎈 <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  19:35, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::: I feel like Scratch 3 might actually be late, because I am in the EST timezone and it is about 3 PM, and that is NOT the early afternoon. It is more like the middle afternoon. 1 PM is the early afternoon. <scratchsig>LuckyLucky7</scratchsig> 19:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::: Wait, SRATCH 3 just released!!! I'm so excited!!! :D <scratchsig>LuckyLucky7</scratchsig> 20:01, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}YESSS IT'S HERE!!! And commenting works now too!! <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  20:43, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:If Scratch 3 has been here for two days why are the pages still outdated? <scratchsig>16itople1</scratchsig> 08:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::There are [[Special:AllPages|a lot of Wiki pages]], {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} of them to be exact. This is going to take a long time and a lot of effort to update. Be patient! There are still pages on here that were last updated in the 1.4 days.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:32, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::{{done}} {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:02, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Errors whilst accessing the Scratch Wiki ==
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:Good point and excellent spot {{e|:D}}. A <nowiki>{{collapse top}}</nowiki> was added either by mistake or forgot to be closed. I can’t edit it so we need to wait for an admin.{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 21:10, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
On the Scratch Wiki, after the Scratch Website was put into Maintainance Mode, I frequently saw some 508 "Resource Limit Reached" errors. Does anyone know the cause for this? <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 13:18, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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::{{done|Fixed}}.
:No concrete cause, only speculation. My suspicion is that now that the website is down, people are turning to the Wiki... but we're not equipped to handle that kind of traffic, so we're borking as well.  Martin's emailed me, and I've emailed him... but any solution would involve contacting the server provider and that takes time. Nothing to be done at present.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:20, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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::The collapse bottom was actually there, but failing to close any tags properly. And even if I tried doing it without templates it still didn't close. I've removed it entirely.
:: it looks like the navbar is missing something <scratchsig>DeleteThisAcount</scratchsig> 14:57, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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::There is a lesson to be learned here: Do not tamper with the forces of nature known as MediaWiki tag-closing rules.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:58, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
::: Some parts of the navbar (like the Scratch Logo) are missing because those parts are hosted on the Scratch Website. The Scratch Website is currently down to switch from Scratch 2.0 to 3.0, which also means that images stored on it cannot be accessed by anyone or anything. The CDN containing user profile images are still available, as only the main Scratch Website (not any subdomains) is down for maintainance. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 15:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::I like the use of the word whilst. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:47, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== I wonder why the Scratch Wiki does not display the "Scratch 3.0 will be here soon!" message ==
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== Important CP Topics Directory ==
  
<scratchsig>LuckyLucky7</scratchsig> 18:24, 2 January 2019 (UTC) See the subject.
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Hi Everyone! So, in archive 91 of the CP, it seemed as though @customhacker had created a neat little thing in his userspace called CP Summaries. What this was is that he put the most important topics from CP Archives, and put links to them in his userspace. It doesn't seem like they'll update it anytime soon, so I created a new one! Tell me what you guys think; all feedback will be appreciated.<br/>[[User:NYCDOT/ImportantCPTopics|Click Me!]]{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 22:36, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
:I think the bureaucrats haven't got round to it yet (it might be too late for them to add it). <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 18:27, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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:{{cool}}<scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:37, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
::Maybe this is supposed to be the wiki for Scratch 3. <scratchsig>LuckyLucky7</scratchsig> 18:33, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::The wiki is not changing due to scratch 3.0 It is not controlled by the scratch team nor hosted on scratch servers so it's not effected.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 19:55, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:03, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== 3.0 is here! ==
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== “Secret” Compliments  ==
  
Scratch 3.0 is now here! Hooray! Should we copy and paste all of the 3.0 articles into their ordinary pages? (e.g. [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Scratch]] to [[Scratch]]) {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  20:27, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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We all know Compliment Tuesday. To suggest compliments we have the [[S:CT]] page. It’s a great way to compliment people, but could be even better.  
:See Ken's long post about Scratch 3.0 a few sections above this one. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:48, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Why no Double Redirects? ==
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Right now you suggest a compliment, everyone who wants to including the person who was complimented can see it and get posted on CP.
  
Why no [[Special:DoubleRedirects]]? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:42, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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So I thought that’s good but you do let look forward to the CP post because you know if you have been complimented.  
:If you click on a double redirect, the first redirect works properly, but it just pauses at the second one and you have to manually click it. This prevents infinite redirects. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 21:57, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== 3.0's Server Troubles ==
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I propose proposing compliments on a way no-one else can see apart from the organizer(s). This can be achieved by a Google Form.
  
Is it me, or:
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Proposed new method:
  
* Project pages are not displaying
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* Users suggest compliments on Google Form entering all details as they would before
* My username's not showing in the header
 
* The project editor's not working
 
* It takes forever to get to a userpage that might not even display?
 
{{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 00:06, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Not just you. For a while, no one could comment. Some pages haven't updated to 3.0 yet either. Projects don't remix, and they don't save a lot either. It logged me out for no reason. Hopefully they fix these bugs soon, but the Wiki still seems to work! :) <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  01:00, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Yep, I was having this problem a few minutes ago. It's been on and off since yesterday.<scratchsig>-ShadowOfTheFuture-</scratchsig> 18:20, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::I also had this problem. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 21:54, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::The ST fixed the problem on a release on January 9, which also included raising the limit for cloud variables and fixing blurry images. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 03:09, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== File not displaying in my signature ==
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* End of the month (organizer)s have admin access to the form and gather responses
  
Why doesn't this file display when it's put at a size smaller than 125px? <br/><div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:250px;overflow:auto;border:1px black solid">250x250 pixels image here:<span class="mw-collapsible-content">[[File:1a3c5e7g9i's_armemedillo.gif|File:1a3c5e7g9i's_armemedillo.gif]]</span></div>
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* Posted in CP
{{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 00:18, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:Gifs are known to be troublesome. Likely the server ran out of memory when trying to shrink it to size. But using gifs in your signature is against custom signature guidelines anyway (they get too flashy if we allow gifs) - just use a static ar<del>ma</del><ins>meme</ins>dillo.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:34, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Remove Backpack Banner ==
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This way:
  
We should remove the backpack banner now snice Scratch 3 is released now.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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* Users will look forward to see compliments received and not seeing anytime of the month
:{{done}} (fyi this should have gone on [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests]]){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:22, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Comments as Citations  ==
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* People will be more encouraged by the compliments
  
Should comments be used as citations? Some comments are so old that they don't seem to load if someone wants to check the citation. Anyone have a solution to the problem?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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Ideas?{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 07:28, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
:Comments?? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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:There are pros and cons to this... on one hand, people will be less self-conscious about complimenting if nobody knows it's them, but on the other hand some compliments either don't make sense if you don't know who it is or imply on their own who the person complimenting is. I do like the idea of looking forward to compliments rather than seeing them immediately, but the con to that is people might be disappointed if CT doesn't come out at the end of the month due to not enough people complimenting...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:39, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
::If you want to use a comment for a citation, you could take a picture of it, upload it to CubeUpload and then use the direct link or something like that I guess. I don't have any ideas for the current comments that don't load, though...<scratchsig>-ShadowOfTheFuture-</scratchsig> 18:17, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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::I'm on board with this. I still would like to keep the non-secret compliments as a second option if we go about this. The main problem would be moderation. With anonymity, there is more of a chance that something mean would come out of it. An unwritten policy of CT is, if I see a disrespectful "compliment" it won't be included. If we were to use a google forum, we would have to have some way of knowing who compliment who, we can't just ask for a username since we can't verify it wasn't an impostor. Any ideas how to go about this?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:48, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
:::The Problem with that is then someone could edit it then take a screen shot.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 21:51, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::Perhaps (again) an extension? Special:ComplimentTuesday sounds like an interesting idea...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
::::No, no pictures! We have a [[Help:References#Format|reference format]] for comments:
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::::Guess who forked your report extension ;) (or possibly Special:ThankfulThursday :P)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
<pre>Username. (D/M/YYYY). "Relevant quote from comment." https://scratch.mit.edu/users/link_to_comment#comments-12345678</pre>
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:::::+1 for a Special: page where compliments can be submitted and a way of suggesting public compliments{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 16:23, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
::::If you can't fetch the quote because the comment is so old, then unfortunately there's nothing to be done. Whatever material that references the comment will have to be assumed to be verifiable by the comment, unless proven otherwise.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:30, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Scratch 3.0 should be faster at loading comments though...? A new thing it does is instead of loading all of the comments leading down to it, it only shows the comment you clicked the link to and has a "see all comments" button. <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  01:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
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But also,Scratch and Scratch Wiki are growing up with "Imagine, Program, Share".[[Frequently Rejected Suggestions#Private Messaging|Here]]'s an rejected example suggestion:{{quote|Private Messaging
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When communication is public, people are more likely to be respectful because they know that everyone can see it. However, when posting PMs, people know that only the intended recipient can see it, so do not think as much before posting. Even if a "Flag PM" function is implemented, the Scratch Team currently does not have the resources to moderate it, because of the reason said before there would be a lot of inappropriate/disrespectful messages.|Scratch Team}} Also,we can see other's compliments(Google Forms give this in finish of the form,right?).
  
== Scratch 3.0 Controversy ==
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Shortly:
  
On the Scratch Website, I've seen many Scratchers (I don't know how much) critisizing Scratch 3.0. Should the wiki mention critisism of Scratch 3.0? <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 12:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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*It's a bad idea because...
:Find enough references to enough different types of criticism and we might have a section in the article.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:25, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:: Ok. Also, I might like a section about 3.0 controversy in the [[List of Controversial Topics on Scratch]] page. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 14:36, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::: Also, a lot of people wanted 2.0 back, so I'll add some refs for that too. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 14:40, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
== Removing discussion tests on [[Help talk:Welcome/4]] ==
 
The page I mentioned in the above title is used by users as a test discussion page. I think the tests shouldn't belong on that page. Should they be removed? <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 10:54, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:The welcome tutorial itself says to do a test on the talk page! No, that's a perfect place to test. Definitely keep it the way it is.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Blocks in articles should display smaller ==
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:*It means a lot of disrespectful or other bad messages
  
The current blocks plugin has resulted in significantly larger blocks than we had in the previous version. In fact, they are even larger than the blocks in the Scratch editor. Measuring on my screen, the [[Glide () Secs to () (block)|Glide () Secs to ()]] block is 40px tall in the editor (measured from the highest to lowest pixel), while in the blocks plugin, it is 58px tall. This is almost 50% larger. You can see the difference below:
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:*I have some questions about Google Forms security
  
[[File:Block height difference.png]]
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:*Also, we'll need a lot code(if we'll use the Wiki for this)
  
In that image, the block on the left is from the editor, while the block on the right is from the blocks plugin. This is resulting in the blocks not only being larger than in the editor, but so large that they are becoming distracting from the actual text. Therefore, I propose requesting to the current creator of the blocks plugin that the blocks be made smaller. This will result both in the blocks more accurately resembling what you see in the editor and having them be less distracting from the text in articles. They would look something like this:
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:*And,we and Scratch Team have some notes about private messaging
  
[[File:Smaller Scratchblocks.png]]
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:*If we'll try to check all of messages,it'll mean more time and more work
What do people think?<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:50, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:<small>I saw your mistake {{e|:D}}</small>
 
:I agree, It is way to big to read with. '''+1''' <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:11, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::I implemented a fix for this on the Wiki extension when it was added, so I'm confused - are you talking about the forums plugin or the blocks as displayed on the Wiki? Because on the Wiki it looks like this:
 
<sb>glide () secs to ( v)</sb>[[File:Block height difference.png]]
 
::Three blocks - left is actual rendered inline scratchblocks; middle is the "small" block in the image in the OP; right is the "big" block in the OP image.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:24, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::I'm talking about blocks as displayed on the Wiki. The big block in the image is how the blocks display for me on the Wiki (latest version of Firefox on Windows 10). They should display in a size more like what they appear like in the program (small block in the image) or possibly slightly smaller.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:56, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Scratch Block Images ==
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:*Anonymous and fake users have a big problem(in Google Forms)
So, I thought we were basically done with converting things to 3.0. The thing is, most block pages show 2.0 style blocks. For example, look [[() - () (block)|here]]. Before I updated the picture, it was a 2.0 file. Are these supposed to be like this or should we update them all? <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  00:10, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:We should update the images. However, the current image filenames include "2.0", so we should upload them under new files (like "3.0 () - ().png" or whatever) and keep the older ones for historical purposes.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:57, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Okay. I've updated a few of them already, can you undo image updates? <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  18:52, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::I already restored the old versions. The versions you uploaded are still there under the file history, so you can re-upload those under new filenames.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:53, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Okay, thanks. :) <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  19:53, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Wiki Wednesday suggestion link should be on the left? ==
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<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 20:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
  
^<br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:32, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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::I would generally discourage the use of google forms for this kind of project given that you are seeking input from the entire community. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:33, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
:Elaborate?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:07, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::I also disagree with using Google Forms because fake or anonymous users could abuse the feature. However, maybe Special:ComplimentTuesday could be the way to go... <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
::Just like you include 'things to do' in ''For Editors''. Include Wiki Wednesday suggestion link there too. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:34, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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::::Google Forms are out by multiple Community and Wiki G/guidelines. A special page is the way to go. @Ahmetlii: If we're using a special page, problems solved include:
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::::* <s>It means a lot of disrespectful or other bad messages</s>
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:::::Compliments would be reviewed before being shown. Inappropriate messages are vandalism and would be treated as such. {{done|Solved}}
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::::* <s>I have some questions about Google Forms security</s>
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:::::No Google Forms. {{done|Solved}}
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::::* <s>Also, we'll need a lot code(if we'll use the Wiki for this)</s>
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:::::Not a problem for me, it'll be fun! {{e|:)}} {{done|Solved}}
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::::* <s>And,we and Scratch Team have some notes about private messaging</s>
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:::::Compliments are shown to everyone - only who submitted the compliment is hidden. Not private messaging. {{done|Solved}}
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::::* <s>If we'll try to check all of messages,it'll mean more time and more work</s>
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:::::Not very much more, and @jakel181 has been doing a great job on CT so far, I'm sure he wouldn't mind looking through the compliments before he posts them.
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::::* <s>Anonymous and fake users have a big problem(in Google Forms)</s>
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:::::Not with a special page! {{done|Solved}}
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::::I think a special page is definitely the way to go. I believe the following are the only questions to really consider:
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::::* Do we actually want compliments to be hidden from everyone (except the organizer and the submitter) until they are posted?
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::::** If so, who do we want to review the compliments so that nothing is inappropriate?
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::::* Do we actually want to allow anonymous compliments? (Note: This and the previous question are two separate questions - the answer to one does not imply any answer to the other.)
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::::** If we do want to allow anonymous compliments, we will have to still also allow onymous compliments - people can just include their names in their compliments.
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::::This concludes my post.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:33, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::I think we should allow EW/Admins/Bureaucrats see in some fashion. (Maybe not all but a couple)<br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 12:54, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
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* Do we actually want compliments to be hidden from everyone (except the organizer and the submitter) until they are posted? -Yes, they are. (I don't need it :P)
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** If so, who do we want to review the compliments so that nothing is inappropriate? -It's named as "be shy" :)
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* Do we actually want to allow anonymous compliments? (Note: This and the previous question are two separate questions - the answer to one does not imply any answer to the other.)
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-No, we don't because S:JOIN-if somebody want to send a message, they must join and login to the Wiki.
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** If we do want to allow anonymous compliments, we will have to still also allow onymous compliments - people can just include their names in their compliments.
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-They can use Scratch profiles to send a message - it's only a Wiki about Scratch.
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<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 17:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
  
== 3.0 updating question  ==
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== Renaming CT ==
  
Should we rename the page [[Getting Started with Scratch]] to [[Getting Started with Scratch 2.0]] and create a new page called [[Getting Started with Scratch 3.0]]? Because some people (Mainly teachers who's curriculum is based around S2) will still use the offline 2.0 editor.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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[[S:CT|Compliment Tuesday]] is, by its name, meant for ''compliments''... but most of the time what appears are instead words of thanks. Shall we rename it to "Thankful" or "Thanksgiving" Tuesday? (And perhaps, since the actual Thanksgiving is on Thursday, we could move it to Thursdays as well?){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:41, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
:A copy of the page before I began updating it can be found [[User:Drunken Sailor/Sandbox/Getting Started with Scratch|here]].{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 22:44, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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:I don't see a problem with renaming it(or moving the day), though, I still would like not to be limited to only "thanks". What are some other opinions on this? <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:34, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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::Thankful Thursday sounds good{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 13:02, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::+1 Yes, I think Thankful Thursday is good, however, just like @Jakel181 said, it shouldn't be limited to just "thanks". <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:57, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::To go about remanaming CT do we just want CT to redirect to TT. If so what about all the subpages of CT. Are we just going to remane them to?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:31, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::If we rename it, what will likely end up happening is that anything redirecting or relating to the root CT page will redirect to TT; but the archives won't redirect, that's unnecessary.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:12, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::::{{done|Renaming Complete!}}{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 19:56, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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I saw something that ruined the change of name... <scratchsig>God286</scratchsig> 21:22, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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:What ruined the change? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:39, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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::No need, the discussion about the "error" is in the talk page of the main TT article. :) <scratchsig>God286</scratchsig> 05:48, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::Okay, that's good. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:33, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
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::::{{done}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:33, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
  
==Syntax Highlighting==
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== Welcome templates ==
Was syntax highlighting removed? I don't see the color wheel at the top of the editor anymore.
 
My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 11021.81.0, Chrome 70.0.3538.110, Flash 31.0 (release 0)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:I also have the same problem. I refresh a couple of times and it works but I fear that it is happening more often. Something is wrong... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:38, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::It has not been removed. There is just a bug where most of the time, it loads without. A few hard refreshes will temporarily fix it. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:42, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== HTTP and HTTPS versions of the site ==
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A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:
  
Every time, I notice that there are both HTTP and HTTPS versions of the Scratch Wiki website, with logging in/out independent of each other (if I am logged in on one, the other may be different). This recently started, with the first incident on January 6. What's happening to the site? {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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[[File:That's a lot of welcomes.PNG]]
:I know some browsers, (such as Brave) will automatically upgrade to https.<scratchsig>RonTheNerd</scratchsig> 04:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::This is due to an htaccess issue, I think - we just don't redirect requests from http to https, and most browsers don't send https cookies to the http version of the same site. I'll fix the htaccess files at some point.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Yeah, it was an htaccess issue. {{done|Fixed}}, http now redirects to https.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::{{done|Your Post Fixed}}, http redirects to https. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:23, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Thanks, I've edited my message lol{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::{{done}}{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:07, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
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10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?
  
== Featured Images ==
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To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.
  
It's been >1 month since we changed the Featured Images! Anyone have new ones? {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
: What about this?
 
:[[File:Scratch cat.png|100px|thumb|left|The Scratch Cat's new appearance in Scratch 3.0.]]
 
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{{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  18:46, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::What about the 3.0 editor, project page? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:35, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Isn't the Scratch Cat the same as it was in 2.0? How about one of the new sprites added in the 3.0 Countdown projects? <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 04:54, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::No, the image is not the same. The whiskers are in different places and the lines aren't as sharp. Also, beneath the eyes is smooth rather than jagged lines. There are also no creases at the forehead. I think that the new Scratch cat is a good one :) <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  20:56, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::{{not done}}
 
{{User:Redglitter/Signature}} 15:59, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::[[File:Scratch_Cat_3_Eyes.png|100px|||the 3.0 scratch eyes]][[File:Scratch_3.0_Project_Page.png|100px|||The project page]][[File:Scratch_3.0_Program.png|100px|||The Editor]]
 
::::::I was thinking of those. Also, I think we should change it before Feb 1. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:54, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Experimental caching ==
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:I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea {{E|:)}} I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
  
I have enabled file caching in MediaWiki in order to improve performance. The basic idea is that once a page is converted from Wiki markup to HTML code once, it just saves the result and uses that all future times the page is requested rather than parsing it again.
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::I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can {{e|:D}}? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::[[User talk:StampDanFan|It has happened again...]]{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different?? <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
  
This shouldn't affect most of you too much, but you will probably notice this:
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== Captioning on Pictures ==
*When you load a page for the first time after editing it or if it hasn't been opened by anyone in a while, it will take slightly longer to load
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{{done}} Okay, so sometimes I see captions on pictures that have a period at the end and some don't. For example, on [[Scratch Trends]], especially [[Scratch Trends#Evil Kumquat|this section]], the captions are very inconsistent. One says "An evil kumquat" and the next says "Two kumquats'''.'''". I know that if they caption is a sentence, it should have one. But the examples were both fragments (just the subject) and one was treated as a sentence and the other a phrase.
*Every time you or someone else loads a page after that, it will load slightly faster
 
  
Please let me know if any issues come up from this.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:08, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
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TL;DR: Should we or should we not put periods at the end of image captions that are not sentences?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 21:11, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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:I'm not sure if the style guide on Wikipedia has any information on this, but I would check there first. Personally I would leave periods off the fragements and keep them on the sentences. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:37, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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::I found, on actual Wikipedia, their ruling on it. I'm fully aware that the Scratch Wiki is not Wikipedia and that we shouldn't implement a rule just because Wikipedia has it, but their ruling on captioning makes perfect sense. It is [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Captions|here]], and I think we should add it (the first two bullets under "Formatting of captions") to our style guide because it will make our captioning and things much more consistent and professional-looking.
  
:I noticed that when I load talk pages such as the Community Portal, it takes 5-7 seconds even when no comments have been added. After reloading again, it loads with the same speed. <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 05:24, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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::Also, when I did the preview, the link to the Wiki page wasn't working, so here it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Captions{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 15:13, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
::Hm, you're right - it usually takes a few extra seconds to load. Let me poke around...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:40, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::I would include it in our style guide. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 23:07, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::I will add a style rule later this week conforming to that (though it cannot be automatically enforced - parsing language is hard). Also, to link to Wikipedia: Wikipedia pages from here, you use two "wikipedia:"s: <nowiki>[[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Captions]]</nowiki> produces [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Captions]].{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Okay, thanks :) I fixed the link but I'll keep the direct one, too.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 17:43, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::::Don't forget to do this! I recommend putting it [[Scratch Wiki:Editing Conventions#Images|here]].{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 19:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|::::::}}
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{{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:54, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
  
:::I noticed now that when I scroll to the bottom of the page, the text doesn't load. It is just the page box (warnings show up for some reason) and a blue background <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 02:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Scratch Trends ==
::::"warnings"? What do you mean? (and if you mean what I think you mean, can you tell me what the warnings say?){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:41, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
:::::{{Warning}} as in these. It also suddenly got really laggy while I was editing my user page, then it took 15+ seconds to load the Community Portal... <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 05:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
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I think we should add the Planet Gang trend on the Scratch Trends page, as it's starting to grow. <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:23, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
::::::Sudden lag is better than lag all the time... but now I'm really confused. Next time you see that happen, could you take a screenshot and post that here? (I recommend uploading the screenshot to https://cubeupload.com and not the Wiki, thanks.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
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:Yes, I second that.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 15:18, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::::Now it takes 30 seconds to load a page, and the Community Portal page took way longer, so I just deleted the tab. It also didn't let me log in for a minute. BTW I'm on Chrome<scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 16:20, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
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::[[Scratch Trends#Planet Logos|It's already on there.]]
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::Also, when you suggest something for a specific page, you should do it on the talk page, not the Community Portal.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 19:30, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
What is the browser/operating system? Maybe that makes a difference?<br/>
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:::Ok. <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 20:42, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Mine is: '''''ChromeOS 11151.59.0, Chrome 71.0.3578.94'''''<br/>
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:::{{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Also, I don't know if it is just me but syntax Highlight is working more often again. I don't know if this was the reason... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:20, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:Same stuff here, although there is an update available now <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 05:46, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Please revert it, I've been gettting 5 errors just to say this. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 16:02, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Yes, when I saved my page it didn't save, and it didn't load any pages after that for around 4 hours (this happened in the morning). It just showed a dead loading thingy on the tab of the page. <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 01:30, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Let me clarify multiple things here:
 
::::Operating system and browser are ''irrelevant'' to loading issues.
 
::::Delays and slowdowns are being caused by the ''database'', not caching.
 
::::I think I've narrowed down the cause for the syntax highlighting for the editor not working all the time: it only activates when the URL parameters are exactly "?title=...&action=edit", no more, no less. (Hypothesis, as yet untested.) Again, ''not caused by caching''.
 
::::Let me explain what caching is so that you don't treat it as a black box that causes all problems. Here's the process for our current system of caching. When a page loads:
 
:::# First, the kind of user is determined. ''If the user is not an anonymous user, no caching is done.'' No logged-in user is shown a cached page, i.e. none of your troubles could be caused by caching because you are logged in and are therefore ignored by caches! (Additionally, anonymous users who have unchecked talk page messages are also not shown cached pages, but anonymous users cannot possibly have talk page messages on this wiki so that is irrelevant.)
 
:::# Second, the kind of page is determined. Caching is only done for pages that:
 
:::#* are not special pages (i.e. pages that start with "Special:")
 
:::#* are not redirects
 
:::#* are being viewed in the current version (latest revision), normal wiki view, no URL parameters, nothing but the page itself.
 
:::# Third, MW checks whether there is a cached version of the page. (These are stored as HTML files in a directory.)
 
:::#* If there is, that gets directly served and the request ends there.
 
:::#* If there is not:
 
:::## The page's content is retrieved from the database.
 
:::## The retrieved content is saved in the cache directory.
 
:::## The cached content is served the same way it would if it was already cached.
 
::::There is no way that caching could be causing any of your problems because, once more, it is not done for logged-in users. Try to investigate further as to the cause of problems instead of just assuming "oh, it's just that 'caching' thing again".{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:29, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Trends ==
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== Adding to and removing from categories doesn't work ==
  
<p>Hey! I wanted to add the Thanos Cat Trend to the [[Scratch_Trends|Trends page]] under "Icons". I don't know if there are enough people who have done it for it to qualify as a trend, and I don't know who started it. Can someone help me find the information and tell me if it is even a trend? Thanks!</p>
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Yesterday I tried to change the categories of [[:File:Micro-bit help.png]] and [[:File:Make a Block.png]], however the former still appears in its original category and neither appear in [[:Category:Scratch 3.0 Program Images]]. The same problem is happening with all the articles of [[:Category:Music Extension]], which I made the week before last. Neither using Purge Carche nor clearing my browser cache helped. <scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 05:14, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
<scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 22:26, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
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:I've had this same problem before. Apparently, categories don't update for a couple days at a time. I don't 100% remember though. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:08, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
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::Same problem for me. As [[User:12944qwerty|12944qwerty]] said, it doesn't update for days at a time. I've noticed it's usually about 3 days.{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 15:13, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::It usually turns out to be within a week. If it becomes longer, let me know - I'll run maintenance at some point and then it ''will'' update.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:08, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::Ok, thanks. (It was really the week before the week before last week.) <scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 03:59, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
  
== Reference for blog.scratch.mit.edu ==
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== adding a blocks added in 3.==
  
Since blog.scratch.mit.edu is no more, are they still allowed as References? I found one in the [[Scratch Design Studio]] article and decided to post this.
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can i add blocks added in 3.0 to [[Scratch_Wiki:Table_of_Contents/Blocks|this page]]
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<scratchsig>Legobouwer9</scratchsig> 15:24, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
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:Sure, go ahead! You never have to ask if you can fix something as minor as a red-link fix.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 19:19, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
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::Yes, you don't have to ask about anything to change unless it will affect '''a lot''' of things. These include
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::*Moving pages
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::*merging
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::*Template editing/creating in Template namespace
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::and etc. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:45, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
  
<scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 00:05, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Block Problems ==
:I think it would still be allowed, since it is still a good reference. The link might need to be changed to the archived page on [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive] though.<scratchsig>Mrcomputer1</scratchsig> 06:27, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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{{Not done|Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken}}<br />
:We have a {{t|dead link}} template you can add just after the reference if you even can't find any Internet Archive pages as well - this signifies that the reference was once there, but no more.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:46, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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Today I started to finish up the script for [[How to Evaluate an Expression]], and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else {{-}} it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in ''Show preview'' mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/292813/ this forum topic]? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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:The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
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::You can use [https://scratchblocks.github.io this page].<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...
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::::@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
  
== Scratch Team Members ==
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== Should words replacing characters that can't be used in titles be capitalized? ==
  
I looked at the credits on the [[Scratch Team]] article and found [https://scratch.mit.edu/credits this link]. I opened all of the users mentioned in the credits and discovered that some of the Scratch Team members were excluded from the wiki page. If anyone knows anything about these ST Members, please tell me so I can add them to the page.
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<small>I renamed [[Chirp (Scratch modification)|Chirp (Scratch Modification)]] to "Chirp (Scratch modification)", because [[S:CONVENTIONS]] says that words in brackets shouldn't be capitalized (except for proper names). I suppose it would be alright to do the same for the rest of the Scratch mod articles, and update the links? (Edit: Though I can't really see why the titles say that, since there is only one Chirp, Panther, Insanity, Bingo and so on.) {{done|Done and thanks Ahmetlii.}}</small>
  
Missing confirmed Scratch Team Members (people with the "Scratch Team" tag):
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S:CONVENTIONS also states that words replacing characters that can't be used in titles shouldn't be capitalized. However, neither [[Backdrop Number (block)]], [[Costume Number (block)]], nor [[Item Number of () in () (block)]] follow this rule, and I think these titles would look a bit out of place if they did so. <scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 08:04, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/wheelsonfire/]
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:Jammum, I assumed that bumping is okay because Lucario621 said so [[/Archive 5#Bumping discussions|here]] (and again since then though I couldn't find it) and I haven't read anything contrary to that. <scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 01:51, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/KayOh/]
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::{{done|kek}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:22, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/rmiel/]
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:::I don't get it, unless you just mean you think the casing of those titles is unimportant (and are right.) <scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 08:53, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/labdalla/]
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::::I think what I meant was I approve of your recent moves; I however think that the current forbidden-character capitalization (the one specified against in conventions) should be the correct one; I've changed the conventions to reflect that. One word that replaces special characters is capitalized; multiple words are not. Feel free to move anything that doesn't fit ''that''.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:00, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Ok, thanks.<scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 01:56, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
  
Other important users mentioned in the credits:
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== A question about Scratch itself ==
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/jaleesa/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/shaanmasala/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/leoburd/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/taranir/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/lilyland/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/theladynico/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/pizzafordessert/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/khanning/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/mwikali/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/me_win/] - Moderator of the Scratch Twitter Account
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/lob12/] - Runs the Scratch Foundation
 
  
I may have missed a few because my tabs are really unorganised.
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How do you see when a project was first shared and when it was last modified?{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 14:20, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Double check [https://scratch.mit.edu/credits here]
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:The only reliable way is the API: <nowiki>https://api.scratch.mit.edu/projects/<project-id></nowiki> {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 14:23, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
  
<scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 00:20, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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== this custom sig thing is confusing me ==
:I've completely revamped the [[Scratch Team#Members]] part to match the new credits page. If you know which users in your "other important users" bit correspond to which names in the Members section, please don't hesitate to add them. Otherwise, {{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
::OK cool! <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 15:56, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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ok, i made a custom sig, and i set it in preferences as the sig<br />
:::I noticed this before, but the only one I added was stymphalianbirb, and I didn't know who she was. Apparently, this was because the Credits didn't link to their user profiles before now. {{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 23:51, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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however, for some reason it shows the entire text of the subpage<br />
::::Actually, linking to ST profiles is a new feature, not an old bug - it was added in [https://github.com/LLK/scratch-www/pull/2220 this pull], because of (or maybe unrelated to, I don't actually know) [[topic:307392|this topic]] of mine. The point is, it links now, so I was able to use that. In fact, quick JS snippet for future updating:
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like <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> produces<br />
<syntaxhighlight lang="js">var res = ''
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<br>[[File:YaovIcon.png|20px]] [[User:Yaov 1991|yaov]] / [[User talk:Yaov 1991|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Yaov_1991|contribs]] / {{plain link|https://scratch.mit.edu/users/yaov_1991|scratch}} 23:31, 24 May 2019 (UTC) <br />
for (var child of $('#view > div > div.content > div.people > ul').children) {
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but when editing it shows <nowiki><br>[[File:YaovIcon.png|20px]] [[User:Yaov 1991|yaov]] / [[User talk:Yaov 1991|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Yaov_1991|contribs]] / {{plain link|https://scratch.mit.edu/users/yaov_1991|scratch}}</nowiki><br />
    res += '* ' + child.children[1].innerText + ' ([' + child.children[0].children[0].href + ' ' + child.children[0].children[0].href.slice(30, -1) + '])\n';
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so yeah, i dont know<br />
}
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also, in the input box on preferences the code it shows is <nowiki>{{SUBST:User:Yaov_1991/Signature}}</nowiki><br />
console.log(res)</syntaxhighlight>
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i cant seem to find the problem <br>[[File:YaovIcon.png|20px]] [[User:Yaov 1991|yaov]] / [[User talk:Yaov 1991|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Yaov_1991|contribs]] / {{plain link|https://scratch.mit.edu/users/yaov_1991|scratch}} 23:31, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
::::Just copy and paste into the console.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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::First:You should make a page like that: User:Example/minisig And then, you should put signature like that:<code><nowiki>{{User:Example/Signature}}</nowiki></code>Finally,you should go to the Preferences and write new page to signature and tick to "Treat signature as wikitext".Now,you can use four tildas to signature.
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<small>{{note|You should obey grammar rules as write something.Everybody can make minor mistakes,but you should obey simple writing rules(example:capitalizing)}}</small><scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 06:59, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::oh you know what, im not doing a custom sig since i dont use the wiki that much <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 11:10, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::[[S:GOODSIG|This]] is the method you should be using for custom sigs, but since they're discouraged anyway I applaud your decision to stick with ScratchSig :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:14, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Why are they discouraged?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 16:36, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::::I spy with my little eye a custom sig. {{smile}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 02:25, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
  
== Change the Featured Studio Template ==
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== Thankful Thursday! May 30{{th}}, 2019 ==
{{done}}
 
  
Should we change the template so that the link is in the name instead of a reference? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 03:27, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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Pre-Welcome: Hello! Today is the 20{{th}} Compliment Tuesday for the wiki! Hooray! In other news there has been some changes to Compliment Tuesday:
:I don't think that it would need that, it would be better to keep the link separate to match the rest of the Wiki <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 05:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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# First, Compliment Tuesday has now moved to Thursday.
::{{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:56, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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# Second, Compliment Tuesday is now on a new schedule; the last Thursday of every month.
:::Thanks! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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# Third, We have renamed Compliment Tuesday to Thankful Thursday.
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These changes were by community request. You can find the CP topics about the current changes [[Scratch_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Renaming_CT|here]] and [[Scratch_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Changes_to_Compliment_Tuesday.3F|here]].
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If you have any question about the changes, why they happened, what's planned for the future, etc, please ask me on my talk page. I'll be happy to answer all your questions for you.
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Expect more exciting changes soon. {{e|;)}}
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Anyways with out further ado...
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<br />
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 020}}
  
== Wiki Appearance ==
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
  
The Scratch Wiki site appearance should be updated to match Scratch 3.0's update of some aspects of the Scratch Website. How about like adding something like Bootstrap to make it look nicer? <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 04:58, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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The next TT is June 27{{th}}. See you then!
:What are you talking about? The current skin was specifically designed to match the 3.0 styles. (I should know, I designed it!) If you mean the content part, sidebar etc those are wiki features and don't fit into the Scratch style of content. {{done|Already done}}
 
:<small>As for Bootstrap: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/youtube/umDr0mPuyQc</small>{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:51, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Oh lol I meant the sidebar and buttons and boxes and stuff like that. <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 03:55, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== New Page ==
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:39, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
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:{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:39, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
  
I want to create a page on the GPIO Scratch 1.4 extension for the Raspberry Pi, but I don't know if it is useful and I don't really have much time to do it. Can some people tell me if they use GPIO or even Scratch 1.4 on Raspberry Pi? Thanks! <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 05:04, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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== How can we not share our social media accounts and info? ==
:Scratch 1.4 on RPi for me: no, I use my RPi as a server. And because there's Scratch 2.0 on Pis now I doubt anyone will ever use it. If you see someone asking around on the forums about the GPIO extension, then it may be time to consider it, but before that it's not worth it. I don't think there's even much to say about it besides the fact that you can interact with GPIO devices...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:03, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Ok, I was just going to make a mini tutorial on how to use it and how it works. I have 2 Raspberry Pis (A+ and 3B+) so I work with Scratch 2.0 and 1.4. Thanks for responding! <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig>
 
  
== Embed projects ==
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Recently, I got my status revision reverted and deleted, because I posted my Twitter username. I remember, back when I was banned on Scratch, I posted a notice with a list of my accounts on other websites and the notice (and an Experiened Wikian's alleged response) disappeared in a flash. I would like an answer to this question.<br/>{{User:PrincessPandaLover/Sig}} 19:38, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
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:Sharing social media accounts is against the Scratch Community Guidelines: {{quote|For safety reasons, don't give out any information that could be used for private communication - such as real last names, phone numbers, addresses, email addresses, links to social media sites or websites with unmoderated chat.|Community Guidelines}}
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:They apply to the Scratch Wiki too. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 05:58, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
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::Ironically, I posted a link to my Tweet here and it went unnoticed.
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::{{User:PrincessPandaLover/Sig}} 22:58, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
  
Embedding has been removed in Scratch 3.0, so for the [[How to Embed a Project]] page, can someone rename it to [[How to Embed a Project (Scratch 2.0)]]? <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 05:35, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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== June 2019 EW Election ==
:[[S:STYLE#no-link-underscores|Please don't use underscores in links!]]
 
:Also, embedding hasn't been removed! https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/168960058/embed/
 
:It's only that it doesn't work right now (the embed link works, but the actual embedding part breaks). That's something already in progress on GitHub. We don't need to worry about it.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:46, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Oh wow that's nice to know! Thanks! <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 03:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Compliment Tuesday! January 15{{th}}, 2019 ==
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=== Overview ===
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On behalf of all the Scratch Wiki admins and EWs, I am happy to announce that '''the sixth Experienced Wikian elections will be held in this month of June, 2019.'''
  
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You can find the most relevant information on the election page: [[Scratch Wiki:Elections/June 2019]] and the [[Scratch Wiki:Elections/June 2019/Nominations|nomination page]]. Visit this page to learn more about being an Experienced Wikian: [[Scratch Wiki:Experienced Wikians]]
  
{{Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday/archive 017}}
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=== Rationale ===
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For a good portion of the past year, I (kenny2scratch) have been the sole active admin, with occasional help from the [[Special:ListUsers/sysop|other admins]] and [[Special:ListUsers/Experienced Wikian|other EWs]]. Don't get me wrong - it's fun, but it's now starting to get too much - as summer approaches, more people are becoming more active, and it's becoming really difficult to [[Help:Patrolled edits|patrol]] all the edits that are made every day. I used to be able to come home from school, have dinner, then patrol all the edits made that day before bed. That is now far from the case. I need help - hence this election.
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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=== Expectations/Hopes ===
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EWs elected in this election should be able to dedicate a set amount of time each day to patrolling edits made that day. Though all edits from each day must be patrolled, the elects need not patrol them all by themselves. Instead, they should coordinate with myself and other admins and EWs to patrol the day's edits.
  
The next CT is January 21{{th}}. See you then!
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Elects should also:
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* Know the account request process well (processing account requests is what the entire EW role was created for)
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* Have a certain amount of activity per day outside of patrolling. Edits made in the course of patrolling are usually enough.
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* Know how to gently/nicely/politely correct new users' behavior
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** No: "Please remember to indent. You did not indent on User's talk page."
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** Yes: "Hi, I just saw your message on User's talk page. Your comment was rather [positive adjective], but I just want to mention that when replying to other people's posts we usually..."
  
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:30, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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=== Conclusion ===
:{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:30, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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Nominations open at 12:00 AM UTC on June 2 (which is 8pm Scratch Time on June 1). Good luck, and may the best candidates win!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:41, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
::Why is it ''not done''? Isn't it done? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 00:32, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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:Sounds great! I'll be sure to vote! <small><small><small>also when i am writing this i literally got the message about it lol</small></small></small> <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 12:57, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
:::The most recent CT post is marked as Not Done, so that it remains even when archiving - i.e. there is always at least one CT post on the CP, even after an archive.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:19, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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::Just a friendly unoffical reminder that nominations begin in appx. two hours!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 21:56, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::I would join, but I'm inactive on here. I was nominated in the February 2016 election, and lost.
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:::{{User:PrincessPandaLover/Sig}} 23:00, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
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::::Oh; hope you get more active in the coming days!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 23:20, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Nominations are now open!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 00:02, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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::::::I would nominate myself, since I am active everyday and do know a lot of WikiCode, but, ehhh, I'm sort of new (I joined in March), and I think other older users deserve it more than me. So I'll definitely be there waiting for voting to start! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 00:37, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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You have no obligation to restrain yourself from nominations just because you think others deserve it more! In the end, it will be the Wiki community (by voting) who decide who deserves it the most. And your age is mostly irrelevant - as long as you have the [[S:W|Wikian]] usergroup and have a good track record, you're eligible for the election, both technically and morally.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:56, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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:Also keep in mind we're not necessarily only electing one EW (notice that the election page says "new EW'''s''' will be elected")! We'll only decide on how many to elect once we see how many nominations there are.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:06, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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::Nice! I've nominated myself!<scratchsig>MClovers</scratchsig> 06:26, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::Yep, I've added you to the list. (It's not necessary to report here that you've nominated yourself in case anyone else was wondering.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:33, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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::::I guess I'll give EW a shot. Thanks for the motivation! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 21:10, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Best of luck to all! {{e|:D}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 21:13, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|:::::}}
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Apologies to all - a very late rule change. In previous elections we have required 50 ''mainspace'' edits and a month-old account; the Wikian status only requires 50 edits, total. The rules have changed to fit previous elections - nominees now must have 50 ''mainspace'' edits, in addition to being a Wikian. I have updated the relevant pages accordingly - apologies if this affected you.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:13, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
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:Hey, I nominated myself, but it got removed! I'm a wikian, I don't know what I did wrong? {{User:Yaov_1991/sig}} 19:04, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
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::You need to have at least 50 mainspace edits, as stated above.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 19:20, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
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Help! I just got 50 mainspace edits and re-nominated myself 2 days ago!<scratchsig>MClovers</scratchsig> 22:26, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::Kenny2scratch specifically said this when he undid your nomination: {{quote|You were not eligible and you only made just enough edits to become eligible. We're likely not going to include you in the list of candidates anyway because of that so there's really no point.|Revision [[Special:Diff/229356|229356]] summary by kenny2scratch}}
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:::And also, make sure to indent after posting. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 18:10, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
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::::The rules ''do'' say "Any person who is a Wikian, has at least 50 mainspace edits, and has a good track record…may nominate themself." There mightn't be any point other than that, but all the same. <scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 23:42, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::::At this point, I think it is up to the admins to decide now, not me. I don't really agree or disagree with him being able to get nominated now. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:33, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|:::::}}
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=== Candidates ===
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Nominations are closed! After much deliberation by the admins and current EWs, here is the list of candidates (in alphabetical order) in the June 2019 election:
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* apple502j
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* banana439monkey
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* jakel181
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* NYCDOT
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The number of EWs we are electing this election has also been confirmed to be '''two'''.
  
== Suggestions for AbuseFilter ==
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Candidates: Start writing your speeches! Once you have written your speech and are happy with what it says, '''post it in a reply here'''. Remember that speeches must be no more than 108 words and not break any rules stated on the [[Scratch Wiki:Elections/June 2019|election page]]. If you like, you can post your speech multiple times - your last reply here that you mark as your official speech will be the speech displayed on the election page. You have until June 16 to write and post and/or revise your speech.
  
I would like AbuseFilter to prevent:
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Everyone else: There's nothing for you to do right now - voting starts on June 16. Check back in a week!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:49, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
* Signatures being in mainspace articles
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:Oh well, good luck to all of the candidates who were chosen! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:15, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
* Userspace being in categories
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::Hello! I'm banana439monkey. I've been on the wiki for just over four years and have made 2300+ edits. As an active user, I read recent changes pretty much as soon as a new edit comes in, which is pretty fast. This means that I can undo malicious or/and incorrect edits before a person sees the page. Who doesn't like that squeaky clean shine? I also politely notify people who need to be reminded of the policies and guidelines while also quickly, thoroughly and efficiently patrolling edits. As for account requests, I thoroughly read request notes and have experience with ConfirmAccount. Vote efficient. Vote Banana. <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 04:34, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
<scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 17:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::Hello, I’m Jakel181, and I’d like to be your next EW! I’ve been on scratch for 3 years and on the wiki for 2 years. I’m familiar with the community; being a member of the SDS, SWC, and the Test and DACH wiki, and experienced with leadership positions; SDS Translators, and Thankful Thursday. I’m extremely familiar, with the mediawiki software, and in the past have found various securities holes in the wiki, and helped patch them up, keeping the wiki safe. If you vote for me I promise, to keep the wiki a more safe, friendly, and productive place for all. Thank you for considering me for EW.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:23, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
:I believe that [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter Abuse Filter] is a mw extension. You would have to consult mw if you want it changed. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:32, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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::::Hiya! I’m NYCDOT, and I want to be your Experienced Wikian (EW). Currently, I always check out the recent changes to make sure every edit is helpful and constructive, and would be able to help more by actually patrolling edits. Something else I would do would be to review account requests, which will ease the stress on the current active EWs. Also, some highlights on some things I’m doing is always updating the featured studios list, keeping pages crystal clean, and finishing the special pages list, because it’s been unfinished since 2014! In conclusion, that’s why you should vote for me. Vote for a better wiki. Vote NYCDOT.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 22:24, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
::You don't have to consult media wiki to have it changed! You (Bureaucrats)(as far as I know only they can change it on the sw) can add filters to it to make it custom to your need.
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:::::Hi, I'm apple502j, a candidate of this EW election. As I'm working as an admin on Japanese wiki, I can use my knowledge gained there, like ConfirmAccounts. I'm also Scratch developer, translator, and SDS translator. I created a bunch of articles here with my powerful English and I've been here for more than 1.5 years! I'm usually free so I have much time for patrolling, and I know how to moderate this huge website. My timezone is JST: so I can patrol when Americans are asleep. If I'm elected, I'll make here a more-friendly help website. Vote Apple and make the Wiki nicer and bigger.{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:59, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
::This seem like they could be helpful, though as for the second one there may be a few categories that set it off mainly a few of the [[:Category:Hidden categories]] and [[:Category:Open User Pages]]. Though, it might not be necessary to add these because I have never seen those things happen (expect for the categories mentioned above). Have you seen it happen before?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 21:25, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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Thank you all for your speeches; note that I will not post them on the election page until the deadline actually arrives. You still have until the 16{{th}} (not the 23{{rd}}, as my post previously said, that was a mistake) to edit or otherwise revise your speech - remember that the last reply here that you mark as your speech (or that is otherwise obviously your speech) will be the one counted as your election speech.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:39, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
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:Hiya! I’m NYCDOT, and I want to be your Experienced Wikian (EW). Currently, I always check out the recent changes to make sure every edit is helpful and constructive, and would be able to help more by actually patrolling edits. Something else I would do would be to review account requests, which will ease the stress on the current active EWs. Lastly, I would be able to complete the special pages list quicker by being able to view pages that are protected for EWs only. And of I would continue keeping pages crystal clean and making high-quality edits. Vote for a better wiki. Vote NYCDOT.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 19:29, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
(contains_any(new_wikitext,"<scratchsig>","/sig","/Sig"))</pre>
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::Good luck everyone! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:03, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
<pre>(
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=== Voting Open ===
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The deadline has passed! The candidates for the June 2019 election have written their speeches. View them on the [[Scratch Wiki:Elections/June 2019|election page]].
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(!(user_groups contains "sysop"))
 
)</pre>
 
:::Here you are {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 00:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::@apple your post broke, I fixed it
 
::::Before adding either of these, are there any legitimate reasons for putting signatures in mainspace or for adding userpages to categories?
 
::::Off the top of my head I can't think why signatures would go in ''main''space (they do go in subject pages, but not specifically mainspace), so I'd probably do that, but then there's also the problem of figuring out what's actually a signature. But are there any pages that need signatures (even as example sigs)?
 
::::Adding userpages to categories is harder. That filter apple posted only detects manual categories, but it doesn't work for templates that add categories. There's really no good way of knowing when a page is put into a category without using a lot of magic. Besides, the rare cases that people decide to categorize their userpages will be walked all over by anyone who pays attention to RC anyway, so I don't think it's worth adding a filter for.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:37, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::One legitimate reason I can think of to add a template with a category in userspace is administrative templates, such as {{t|delete}}.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:37, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::That's not a manual category, which is all that any abuse filter would be able to detect... is there any legitimate use for putting a <code><nowiki>[[Category:Thing]]</nowiki></code> in any page?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:44, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== How do you use .js and .css subpages? ==
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Candidates: There's nothing for you to do now but hope. Remember that you are not allowed to do any sort of self-promotion anywhere.
  
Super confused... can you edit the .css and .js subpages in CSS or JS? How do you incorporate the CSS and JS into a page? How can you use .js files? Would you have to link the files to ex: your userpage for it to work? Plz help :anyone who has these or knows how to use them<scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 02:07, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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Everyone else: Voting has opened! If your account was created '''before June 2''', [https://futuresight.org/wikivote click here to vote]! Voting closes on June 23.
:{{user|jakel181|name}} helped me understand but it was still a little confusing. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface#Customizing_the_interface This] should help. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:23, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Scratch Wiki Server and Edit Conflict Problem==
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Good luck to all candidates!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:26, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
{{not done}}
 
Internet on the Scratch Wiki has been extremely slow for me for a few days. I'm on Windows 10, and Chrome, Firefox, and Edge are all slow. Because the internet is so slow, it started to load, but then I ended it because I had to do something else. The second time it fully saved, but I had an edit conflict with myself, maybe because the other save went far enough into the process that it actually succeeded. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 16:44, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:Yes, everything has been really sloooooow <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:38, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:: I've also experienced errors on the Scratch Wiki today. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 18:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Hi everyone. This seems to be a problem experienced across our entire user base, not necessarily isolated to one or two users. We are aware of the issue and are actively working to fix this. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 19:35, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Yes, the community portal never loaded either until now (I have been trying for 2 days)<scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 00:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::We feel like the connectivity should definitely be improving in the next couple of days. Please let us know if there are still issues. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 17:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::It has been slower than before. {{e|:(}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 16:54, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::::I found that disabling my adblocker fixes the problem. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:05, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::::We have taken concrete steps to address the issue. Thank you for your continued patience. :) <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:44, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|8}}
 
It has been a lot quicker now! {{e|:D}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 20:52, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:We just downgraded the PHP version to 7.1 from 7.2 since PHP 7.2 is known to cause unnecessary load on webservers. This shouldn't impact functionality since MediaWiki still supports PHP 7.1. Please let us know if any problems come up (or if this results in better performance for everyone).<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 21:08, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::@jvvg: The Extensions like BlockPlugin and also Accounting seem not to work anymore in DE and EN, but work in HU and FR...frodewin changend "localsettings.php" at the HU sysopsite by just outcomenting the Extentions and changed it back accidentaly at the same time you downgraded PHP. Ken introduced "commonsettings.php" as a shared part of "localsettings.php" at EN and DE about a wee ago, but not in FR and HU...so I suppose frodewins test with the HU-"localsettings.php" had no influence, but your downgrade in combination with Kens "commonsettings.php" was the reason that the Extension don't work properly at the moment...strange...or it's just because EN and DE use versions of the Extentions that don't work with PHP 7.1 whereas HU and FR do work with 7.1...{{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 21:43, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Ad problems: The ScratchBlocks Plugin is not working for English and German wikis. <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 21:47, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::But as a result we now know that the Extentions that don't work at the moment (because of PHP7.1 ?) have been responsible for the slowness oth the Wikis ;-) {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 22:10, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Suddenly everything's fast now, but I still sometimes get the edit conflict problem. I found the difference between the two edits was that the old one had <nowiki>"{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig2}} Time, Day Month Year (UTC)"</nowiki>, and the newer version had four tildes instead. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 16:40, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== April Fools Stuff ==
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== Help Protection ==
{{done}}
 
  
So guys, how do you find your April Fools page?
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{{Done}}<br />
<scratchsig>Dilek10</scratchsig> 09:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
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I think the [[Help:Contents]] page should be protected, as they aren't general pages, they are only there to help out editors.{{User:Yaov_1991/sig}} 17:28, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
:Here's yours: [[Scratch Wiki:April Fools/User:Dilek10]]. You'll also need to add {{t|April Fools}} to the top of your userpage.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:50, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
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:Hmm, I really don't know. I sort of agree because users could change it the way it isn't supposed to be, but it wouldn't really do much, you know what I mean? I think an admin should decide. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:14, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot! <scratchsig>Dilek10</scratchsig> 09:54, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
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::If an editor creates a new Help: page, they would have to ask an admin to add it to the contents page. Plus, the Help:Contents page isn't really that high-traffic (Makethebrainhappy can enlighten you more on that) so it really doesn't need much protection.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:20, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::Yeah, I see your point.{{User:Yaov_1991/sig}} 12:23, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
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::::{{Done}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 16:06, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
  
== Scratch Blocks Bug ==
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== Redirect to CP/Not Done ==
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{{done}}<br />
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I thought it was weird that [[Scratch Wiki:Community Portal/Not Done]] did not redirect to [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done]]. New users might enter that in instead of the real link, so I propose a change. Should it redirect, or maybe even go to a page describing what the Not Done page is? Let me know what you all think. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:44, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
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:Hello? Anyone? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 21:09, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
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::I think it works like this:
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::Any pages that have "talk" in the title are considered completely seperate from the main article. If a title has no "talk" in it, its considered an article. So, basically, Talk = talk page. However, if someone needs to find it, its on the sidebar. {{User:Yaov_1991/sig}} 19:32, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::Yes, I already know that, but I'm just wondering since the page isn't used, can't it give an explanation for [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done]] just as it does for [[Scratch Wiki:Community Portal]], or a redirect at least for new users? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:46, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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::::{{done|[[Scratch Wiki:Community Portal/Not Done|Redirected]]}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:14, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
  
I don't know if it is just me but the scratch blocks doesn't render anymore. I tried refreshing cache too. Could it be because of PHP version? Here is an example:
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== This article is driving me nuts! ==
<sb>move (10) steps</sb> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 02:53, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:We're looking into it. It's possible it's related to the PHP version change, but we're not sure yet. We will keep you posted.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 03:32, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::I have fixed it. The problem actually had nothing to do with the PHP version change, it was because the Wiki plugin depends on an external script that moved to a new URL.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 03:46, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Fixed on GitHub as well.{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:07, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== .sprite3 Files Not Allowed? ==
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So decided that I should do my first real edit so I clicked the Random Page button a thew times to see if I could find a page that neeeded some edits. Right away I found [[3-Dimensional_Sound|this]] page. At first it looked like a perfect page for me! There was some bad grammar mistakes that I could fix and the blocks were a little slopy. But then I begain to test the code that was on their and half the blocks I couldn't find in the editor! Am I missing something? Was this a troll page or something? Could someone help me please?{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 16:59, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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:All tutorials in the wiki are ''completely possible''. So, yes, it is possible you are doing something wrong. Also, -- I hope you don't mind -- I'll fix something quick on it. {{User:Yaov_1991/sig}} 22:59, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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::Okay, I tried it out, and it turns out it does work! Surprise, right? {{User:Yaov_1991/sig}} 23:12, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::Could you show me your project?{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 23:44, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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::::[https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/315608751/ Here] {{User:Yaov_1991/sig}} 00:05, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::::The code requires stero headphones/speakers setup for 3D sound. Are you using those?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:34, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}@Yaov_1991 Thanks
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@Jakel181 I couldn't the blocks that's all.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 22:32, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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:Thanks everyone for your help. It turned out to just be a silly misunderstanding.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 22:37, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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::{{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:13, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
  
In Scratch 3.0, you can't download a sprite costume, so I downloaded the sprite and got a .sprite3 file. The Wiki doesn't support these, but it does support the .sprite2 files. Can we update it somehow to allow .sprite3 files? <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  23:13, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
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== New Template ==
:{{done}} - uploading sprite3 files is now supported.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:32, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Thank you! <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  17:21, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Should we update the Remix page? ==
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I thought of making a template for pages with no links. I was inspired by {{plain link|https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Talk:Making_Story_Animations#Orphan|this}}. I just wanted to ask if its useful. Here's the code:<br />
{{done}} Should we move the [[Remix]] page to "Remix - 2.0" and do a new "Remix - 3.0"? Or should we just update it? I made a new file for the remix button in 3.0 ([[:File:Remix 3.0.png]]) instead of the old one. So I don't know what to do. <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  01:15, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:I've also made a new file for [[:File:Remix notice 3.0.png]].<scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  01:21, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Also, should similar articles (such as [[Studio]] and [[Comment (website feature)]]) be transferred and made new as well? <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  01:36, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::If they are the same, then only images should be updated. Not create a whole new page. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 04:41, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Change the files, but anything that didn't really change between 2.0 and 3.0 should not warrant separate pages. (Studios and commenting didn't change at all! Don't make new pages for the "updated" versions.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:35, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Okay then. I was just thinking since the placement of things is a bit different. (Also, I meant adding people to studios :P) <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig> 17:22, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::And adding projects, but New Pages wouldn't be necessary. If there were minor changes, you could maybe add a section on those <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 17:38, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Not sure if I did this right!! ==
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<nowiki>
  
So, I updated the remix notice for 3.0 but the image is now streched on the remix page. Is this the correct way? https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Remix
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{{Header Template|[[File:Document_stub.png|26px]]|'''This page is an orphan.''' This means that there are currently no links on this page. If you are an editor, please add a few!<includeonly>{{check date|{{{date|}}}}}</includeonly><includeonly>{{#ifeq:{{{cat}}}|no||[[Category:Pages With No Links|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}</includeonly>}}
<scratchsig>DeleteThisAcount</scratchsig> 20:00, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:Hey, just remember, don't make links that connect into the scratch wiki external links. Just use this double brackets like this: <nowiki>[[Remix]]</nowiki> [[Remix]]
 
:Also, none of the images are stretched. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 20:08, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Looks fine to me... (And yes, please [[S:STYLE#no-ext-wikilinks|don't use external links to internal pages]]){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:49, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Hey, thanks for updating it. But I had already made the file ([[:File:Remix notice 3.0.png]]) as you can see in a comment above. Make sure that if possible, use example names instead of real ones if you can. It isn't always a requirement, but it's best not to make duplicate files. (I left the one for 2.0 and made a new one for 3.0). If anybody else thinks ''I'' messed up, please be sure to let me know! If I am wrong I'm very sorry :){{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 00:35, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::: Ah, sorry, I used the example names of ScratchCat and ScratchCatsup, it seemed a bit more real I guess. <scratchsig>DeleteThisAcount</scratchsig> 20:29, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::It's okay :) It's just that they're real Scratchers with real projects, and I kind of felt like that was advertising. My main thing was just that it was practically a duplicate file :P{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 00:42, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::: Oh, okay then. btw the scratch mas ots arent real people ;)
 
<scratchsig>DeleteThisAcount</scratchsig> 06:55, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::::The Scratch Mascots are real Scratchers with real projects. They may not all be actively creating projects and stuff, but they do have them and those projects can still be loved and favorited. I think they're run by ST members. Look [https://scratch.mit.edu/users/ScratchCatsup/ here] for ScratchCatsup and [https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/151303285/ here] for one of their real projects.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 19:09, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Category page not updating. ==
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</nowiki>
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<br />
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{{User:Yaov_1991/sig}} 01:44, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
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:Problem is, too many pages would have the template.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 01:46, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
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::Yeah, a lot of pages would have the template, and that would be bad. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 03:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
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:::We have a [[Special:LonelyPages]] list already, and the fact that a page is not linked to isn't really something we need to make glaringly obvious. Anyone wanting to adopt pages can go through the special list.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:13, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
  
:My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 11151.113.0, Chrome 71.0.3578.127, Flash 32.0 (release 0)
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== Is it ok for me to create custom templates in my userspace? ==
:Hello! On [[:Category:Unreleased]] pages that don't have the category Unreleased are being shown on the page. They are not redirects, I have purged the cache on the Category Page and on the page it has been falsely link multiple times, and closed the browser entirely waited a few minutes (about 5), but they still seem to falsely be linked. Any one else having this Issue? Any other recommendations?  Thanks <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:33, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Any specific pages? I didn't find any from the ones I saw. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 00:12, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::[[:File:3.0 When () is More Than ().png]], [[() Button Pressed? (block)]], and [[Backdrop () (block)]]<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:24, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::This seems to have been resolved. In an effort to improve page load times, we made it so that some jobs are run in the background at low-demand times, and one of those is updating category page lists, so it probably just took a bit for that job to run. {{done}}<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:48, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== {{user|ThisIsAnAccount|name}} More Features ==
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I created a template in my userspace to yse in my userspace? Is it ok for me to create a custom template in my userspace to use in my userspace?
Just some more features I thought we could add for this bot.
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[[File:Smileycreations15 Profile Icon.png|20x20px|none|link=User:smileycreations15]][[User:Smileycreations15|'''smileycreations15''']] ([[User talk:Smileycreations15|Talk]]) 09:40, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
*Deleting pages with the delete template
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:If you want a custom template(for example;you saw a header and you want to use it with change the color),you must create it in your userspace.If you don't want to change something,you can use it in your userspace.
*Protecting pages with the archive or protect template
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:{{note|You must use it with credit;you can change it or use it,but with credit(see:CC BY-SA 4.0).}}<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 10:22, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
*Checks for non-trusted external links and adds the template  
 
? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:56, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 
:Bots aren't going to be given admin privileges and bots with that idea have been rejected before. Also I believe Mathfreak231 (The bot's owner) is inactive now.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:24, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
 
::What about adding another job to {{user|TemplatesFTW|name}} of adding the {{t|External Programs}} when non-trusted links are on a page that doesn't have the templates. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 02:34, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 
:::It does...{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 07:27, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 
::::* Deleting pages with the delete template still needs human intervention, to prevent false positives
 
::::* Likewise for protecting
 
::::* Checking for external links is already a feature of my bot
 
::::{{done|All done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:32, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::This is mainly for jvvg.
 
:::::I was thinking that Wikimonitor should also include updating the Featured Studios. What do you think? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:41, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Report? ==
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== Featured Images Change ==
  
When do I use the report button in the page history? As far as I know, edits that are worth being reported are reverted instead. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 20:42, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
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Howdy, everyone. The last time we updated the Featured Images page was in April. Does anyone have any new suggestions? Thanks! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 14:29, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
:You'd use it when the edit needs to be hidden from history as well as reverted, or in other cases when admin action is necessary.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:30, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Scratch Blocks help... ==
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== Voting Open ==  
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Hi everyone! Voting has opened for the currently scheduled EW election.
  
I am making a new article that is currently in my [[User:12944qwerty/Sandbox2|Sandbox]]. In there, the scratch blocks are acting up. They are at different sizes and are not showing up. Can someone help? You can edit the page to. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:26, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
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Speeches & Information: [[Scratch Wiki:Elections/June 2019|https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Scratch_Wiki:Elections/June_2019]]
:nvm, it got fixed but I did notice that the comments were a lot smaller that the blocks... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:08, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Should there be a topic about common bugs/glitches and their workarounds? ==
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Voting Link: https://futuresight.org/wikivote
  
The title is pretty self explanatory-Should there be a topic about common bugs/glitches and their workarounds? For instance, it could list common bugs such as "Follow button hidden", and the prompt to fix them, such as "Turn off the ad-blocker"?
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Good luck to all of the candidates! <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:11, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
<scratchsig>Kritav</scratchsig> 03:12, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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:Cool!{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 02:33, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
:I don't think so, bugs should be reported to the Scratch Team so they may be fixed at any time. It would be better to create a forum post about that. If it is an older or famous glitch, feel free to create an article on it! <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 04:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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::Yay! Just voted! {{e|:)}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:12, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
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::: Just voted too! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  08:30, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

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Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,002edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Done.
Updated the list as the author.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,002edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)


Logging server faults

No Not done

Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Time Errors Details/Comments
8 August 2018 400 Bad Request
503 Service Unavailable
I was editing User:Kenny2scratch/common.js, and when I clicked "save page" I hit a "400 Bad Request" error. I pressed the browser "back" button (thanks Chrome for caching form data), and clicked "save page" again, and I encountered "503 Service Unavailable". I went back again, resubmitted, and the edit went through.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
10:26 AM, 3 September 2018 (GMT) Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties I clicked on random page
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 09:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
5:27 PM, 3 September 2018 (HKT) "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties" I was literally attempting to edit this section. When I clicked the "edit" link, it brought me to a page that said:

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
(Cannot access the database)


You can try searching Google in the meantime.
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Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

10:07-11:20 PM, 8 September 2018 (HKT) Major outage across all wikis Multiple screenshots: [1][2][3][4]this is the most useful error[5][6][7][8][9][10]

Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

10:44 AM, 2 October 2018 (GMT) 508 Resource Limit Reached Edit a user's talk page
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 09:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
4:40 AM, 2 January 2019 (CST) 508 Resource Limit Reached Trying to create a redirect page.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
4:58 PM, 8:02 PM, 10:22 PM, 10:25 PM @ 3 January 2019 (HKT); 12:46 AM @ 4 January 2019 (HKT) 508 Resource Limit Reached


503 Service Unavailable
File upload fail

Frequent outages across all wikis. Most likely caused by traffic spike from 3.0.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
9:12 AM, 4 January 2019 (CST)
9:17 AM, 4 January 2019 (EST)
"Service Unavailable Error [...]
503 Service Unavailable Error"
"508 Resource Limit Reached"
Trying to enter my talk, kept refreshing until worked, came to CP to log fault. Errors repeated until worked.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
15:02:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC) Fatal exception of type DBQueryError I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
9:02 AM, 7 February 2019 (CST) 508 Resource Limit Reached Trying to go to How to Make a Typewriter Effect.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
4:50 AM, 25 May 2019 (UTC) HTTP error: error Clicked the Show preview button while editing User:TenType/Header, when it did not preview and received the error. Clicking the button again resolved the issue.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Could we have a dedicated page to that?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,384)) 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Nah, just here is fine.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
No Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. (archives)
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Not too many right now.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
No Never done! Server faults will always come.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,384)) 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Do we not have this?
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).
Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles to update for 3.0

No Won't be done for a long time

Hello everyone, it's already January 2nd for me, so I figure I might as well get the preparations started.

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Pages outdated upon 3.0 release are incredibly numerous. In most cases, one or more of the following edits can or should happen:

  • Parts that talk about 3.0 features in future tense (e.g. "there will be a new paint editor") should be changed to use present tense (e.g. "there is a new paint editor") or past tense (e.g. "a new paint editor was introduced")
  • Parts that talk about 3.0 changes in future tense (e.g. "the editor will be moved to the right side") should be changed to use past tense (e.g. "the editor was moved to the right side")
  • Parts that mention dates in any tense should have their tense updated (e.g. "the official release will be January 2019" -> "the official release was January 2019")
  • Parts that talk about 2.0 features in any tense (e.g. "the paint editor has these features") should be changed to use past tense (e.g. "the paint editor had these features")
  • Parts that talk about 2.0 changes in any tense (e.g. "the editor was moved to the left") should all be changed to past tense if they haven't already.
  • Take this opportunity to update things that weren't changed from 1.4 days as well.

Progress

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Note Warning: do not copy articles directly from their 3.0 versions!

Though in most cases the information will be correctly updated, make sure to use your own judgement as to its accuracy.

Note Note: Some of the articles listed below need to be created.

Feel free to update this list yourself. Add any articles that you discover that need updates; remove articles that have been updated.

  • Blocks
  • Change () Effect by () (sound block)
  • Development of Scratch 3.0
  • Project
  • File:Name bar.png
  • File:Offline Editor Share Icon.png

Remember to take this opportunity to clean up articles as well as update them!

Fix typography or other writing issues as you come across them

We don't want to have to make a second sweep to clean up all the weird grammar from tense changes. Remember to fix the grammar and spelling of the articles as a whole while you update them.

Ask for help when you need it

If a page or redirect needs to be deleted or you need some other admin action, leave a message at Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests. If you don't specifically need admin actions, you can ask anyone you think would know the answer to your question.

Here's to a good 3.0 release!

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Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
05:40, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Oh I thought a bot would do it :P also are we saving old articles, for example Block Plugin(2.0)?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
I thought we were moving 2.0 to a different place and 3.0 to where 2.0 used to be.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  16:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Removed some articles from the list :)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Should Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Front Page (2.0) be updated? It's so similar to Front Page, that it seems redundant to create a new page.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
I noticed that many of the things needed to be changed were the same in 2.0 and 3.0. What should we do?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
Please don't externally link to Wiki pages! And please don't use underscores in links.
I'm pretty sure it's the pictures that need updating. Would you mind adding all the files on that page that need updating to the #Progress list?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Nothing has changed between 2.0 to 3.0 in Front Page, Messages, Discuss, Profiles. (Maybe more but these are all I've been to). The Project page and project editor are the only ones that have.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
The front page has changed, they've just been using the 3.0 skin for a while. Notice how the top bar is bright blue there and on project pages but a darker blue in discuss and the profiles as well as studios. Messages have also been at the 3.0 skin for a while. My stuff (and everything in it, like trash) has not been updated either.
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 02:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Also I think "Images of stuff in 2.0 should be updated to 3.0." should be included. VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  22:03, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

scratchblocks version parameter

Yes Done
I was thinking we should have a version parameter for scratchblocks so that we could see what they looked like in previous versions of Scratch. This would be useful for articles that cover previous versions of Scratch.
Example: <scratchblocks version="2.0"></scratchblocks>
1a3c5e7g9i's Armemedillo 1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 20:40, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

I definitely support! When we were moving to 3.0 I originally thought that we would keep the old sb extension and just change the tag to "scratchblocks2" (or something like that), and make a new one for 3.0 and it would have a "scratchblocks" tag.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:52, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
I definitely agree! Having this would be better for the old 2.0 pages. +1 :D
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:59, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Support! I do think we should also be able to view what the old blocks look like, because it might be useful in some situations (who knows?).
NilsTheBest (talk | contribs) 02:22, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
Be careful: Long comment. Nutshell: too hard to implement
This is apple502j, the one who made ScratchBlocks4 extension. I know what you need, and it's nice. I'd wanted to make it possible to install both (2.0 version and 3.0 version) version to MediaWiki, but it was too hard to do so.
Old scratchblocks (Old for short) and new scratchblocks (New for short) uses the same global(window.) variable name. If you install Old first and New second, Old's JS variable is gone, and vise versa. I tried to solve the problem by replacing the name of New JS with a simple Python script, but it didn't work well. Without the script, we had to manually change it, which is also too hard. To make ScratchBlocks4 available earlier, I had to cut the feature.
Old and New also use the same identifier inside MediaWiki. This was a bit easier than that JS one.
While it's possible to beg tjvr, it would still need time. For this reason, I think it's hard to implement.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,002edit 06:54, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
I support! Now I know it's hard to implement, but it becomes easier if we accept a tradeoff: each article can only have one scratchblocks version. That way there aren't any name conflicts and it'll still work fine. I'll look into it later.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:08, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
I was thinking that each version of scratchblocks should be stored in a different global variable (new idea made from Apple502j's explanation), but your idea sounds more practical!
1a3c5e7g9i's Armemedillo 1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 02:05, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Scratchblocks already allows you to render either in Scratch 2 or Scratch 3 style, so possibly you could make that feature available? https://github.com/scratchblocks/scratchblocks/releases (That page also explains how to scale scratchblocks to 67.5%, I suppose you mean to fix that soon?)
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 08:14, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
We already scale scratchblocks to that size, but with a different method, because the method on that page doesn't take into account that the space taken up remains unchanged (it was designed for the scratchblocks.github.io page).
You have a point! We don't need to include different versions of scratchblocks to render different versions of Scratch! I'll get to it right away.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── TESTING move (10) stepsmove (10) steps
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  14:49, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Oh! Sorry, it's just on my end (SeaMonkey 2.49.4) that they appear huge. It says TypeError: item.viewBox.baseVal is null.
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 00:48, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
setAttribute does work, though.
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 07:38, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
Ayy, it worked!!! Yes Done
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  14:54, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Yay! I know I'm late...
1a3c5e7g9i's Armemedillo 1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 17:08, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Compliment Tuesday! March 19th, 2019

Welcome to the 18th Thankful Thursday! March 19th, 2019.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Compliment

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Compliments

The Compliments are *drum roll please*

User Compliments
NilsTheBest (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for interwiki-linking a whole bunch of pages!
    Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:19, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Supermonkeycat157 (talk | contribs)
Dominic305 (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for your image compressing work on the files my bot doesn't touch yet! It definitely helps the Wiki load faster :)
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    03:12, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
12944qwerty (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for being so active and helpful in the community!
    Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 19:58, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The next CT is March 26th. See you then!


Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:06, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Yes Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:06, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
I created a new Thread about #Changes to Compliment Tuesday? like Ken suggested.
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
15:03, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Help needed in the international Scratch Wiki

Yes Done Who of you can help here?

Thank you very much in advance!
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
05:25, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I would love to help but I'm not an international wiki coach :P
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Every Scratch Wiki author can start to coach at the international Scratch Wiki, just get you an account here: tw:Special:RequestAccount
  • Is it really true that nobody of you found time to help our fellow Turkish Scratcher until now? :-(


Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:01, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Oops...I solved problems but I forgot to say that.Thanks for all helps to all Wiki admins,User:MartinWollenweber and all users in the Wikis.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 12:29, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you very much!!! I am realy happy that my guess above, that nobody helped was wrong.
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
12:37, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
@MartinWollenweber I applied! Fingers crossed! :)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:56, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
@Jakel181 Great! see tw:User talk:Jakel181
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:46, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 13:35, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Archive Time!

^^^ :D 08:47, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,002edit

Not sure if done?
yay!
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:20, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done btw
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:14, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Add admin request to the archive.

Should we add (completed) admin requests to the archive? It seems like the Done Requests are starting to pile up.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:38, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Ach, I knew there was something I forgot... I've archived all the admin requests now. Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:52, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Is this edit good?

I've finally done my first true edit on the site! Its the Creating a Multiplayer Game article. It said that it needed some of thelanguage used to be changed. I've mostly changed the text in the scripts. Does anyone aprove of the edit? I mean, it's good for a first!
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 23:05, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, nice to know you're engaged in this wiki!
I noticed that you made a lot of edits for this, which is fine, but it takes more work for admins to patrol them. To avoid this in the future, you can use the show preview button at the bottom.
I also noticed how you formatted you links. I'm glad that you used the internal link format, but you didn't have to rename it. |NAME]] (that part). As long as you inputted the link where you want to go, and its not named to something else. (for example, cheatsheet, look inside). You also included a '/'. This will bring the link to the subpage of the current page. It will most likely bring you to a non-existent page. Look inside if you don't know how to fix the link for the answer.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  00:23, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to keep my edits to one whole batch. Thanks for telling me! :)
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 09:59, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, in your posts, you included posts without indents. We use indents to show who is replying to who. Otherwise it will look broken, and not clean.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:04, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Yeah - I'm just getting used to how the wiki works. Thanks, anyway!
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 18:06, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes Patrolled, reviewed, patched up
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:18, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Merging page

I'm planning to merge Slideshows to How to Create a Slideshow. If this gets accepted, I'll merge them, and then I'll say here to delete the page merged.
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:36, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, when merging pages, we would just put a redirect instead of deleting.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  01:20, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
Before the pages are merged, we need to confirm that they should be merged. There isn't a topic on the page's talk page, so I suggest you open one to discuss whether they should be merged there.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:10, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 21:37, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Moving domain of special-case wikis

Yes Domains changed

Hello everyone,

I’ll get right to the point. Currently, there are three "special case" Wikis, which have domains according to scratch-*.info instead of *.scratch-wiki.info. These cause several problems:

  • Links to them in Scratch comments aren’t clickable
  • People keep asking why those domains are special
  • Code linking to those wikis has to be duplicated

On the GitHub issue I linked above, LiFay suggested moving the special cases to normal domains, and having the “special case” domains redirect to the normal ones. I think this is a good idea, but we need more discussion on it first. Moving it:

  • Solves all the problems above
  • Makes things consistent

However, it also:

  • Needs redirecting

What are your thoughts? Should we move, or no? What else is there to consider?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:02, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

The special-domains of those wikis only have historically reasons and so I vote for moving them to the domains with the same structure as all others while additional making them fully accessible under their historic domains.
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
15:07, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
I agree to MartinWollenweber but technically,it's very hard(because that means clon the Wikis) and clon the Wikis mean more memory and more technical problems.Therefore,this isn't a good idea but special cases are historical signature of the Wikis,so I suggest if a Wiki has a special domain,we can move all files to special domain and we can close standart domains for that wiki or we can remove all special domain.This is a hard problem.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 08:42, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
I think you misunderstand - we're not cloning the wikis; we are only making one domain point to the other. (It's like putting down two road signs - one says "de.scratch-wiki.info" and the other says "scratch-dach.info" but the other points you to the one.) The main concerns are really just the redirects. And our decision needs to take everyone else into account! Are you for or against?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
05:12, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Update after yesterday: The domains have been changed as planned. Redirects are also in place. All scratch-*.info domains are now properly *.scratch-wiki.info. Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:06, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Changes to Compliment Tuesday?

I'm a big fan of motivating things like "Compliment Tuesday" but couldn't it be more effective, if we decrease the times per year say down to 4 or 2? It's more motivating honored and to be honored rarely by manny than often by just a few...
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:26, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm on board with that, currently we do Compliment Tuesday, every Tuesday, when there is four or more compliments. Though doing it every 6 months seems too far apart, but if we do it once a month, say the first Tuesday of the month, it's often enough that I don't forget, ;) but not too often that it is not that effective. What do you think?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:33, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
I think you should start a new thread regarding this. ;)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
I created this new Thread about #Changes to Compliment Tuesday? like Ken suggested.
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
15:04, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
Yes The new CT/TT system is in place
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 19:59, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

The bot tweaker has no Im A bot template, It may make confusion.

Yes Done If you look o the page https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=bot You see that tweaker is a bot. If you look at User:Tweaker, you don't see the template.
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 16:14, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

That template was never used on that bot's page (Plus, the bot was only used to replace WikiMonitor temporarily) (and as a reminder Ideapad, please use proper spelling and grammar on the wiki, this is a "professional" wiki).
Jammum (talk | contribs) 05:29, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
Tweaker was always meant to be temporary, and it never got proper bot rights nor was it ever really a bot. The link to Special:Log on its userpage was meant to show recent things it might have done. It doesn't really deserve the "I'm a bot" template.
@Jammum, your point is clear but harshly made. @Ideapad-320: Thanks for pointing it out, and I hope my reply clarifies things. Do remember that we're a professional(-ish) encyclopedia, and proper spelling and grammar in a talk page help get your meaning across better. :) But if that's too much, as long as you use proper typography in mainspace articles then that's fine (though we may misunderstand you at times).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
18:03, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Just a question...

Yes DoneHello all, I was just wondering if anything big has happened on the wiki, or if there is something I should know about because I have sadly not been on the wiki for a long time. Kenny, if this is not allowed go ahead and delete it.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:51, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

The policy Scratch Wiki:Kenny is not here is made.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,002edit 09:22, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Please don't call me Kenny! Also, you don't need to specifically call me out - any admin will do the same :)
Nothing big has happened that I can remember, but we have the upcoming possibility of the domain change for the German, Indonesian, and Russian wikis. (Anybody reading this: we need opinions on that!)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:26, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
Got It!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 11:29, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

New About Page

Yes Ken Said I Need To Fix It Up A Bit
Hello all, I was thinking recently that the About page should be change to be more standardized. Please check my sandbox to see what I mean. Let me see what you guys think!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 21:08, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

It's good but I think real Scratch Wiki:About page is better than your About page.However,I saw your categorization system and I think this is a good idea!We should apply this system in the About page.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 08:26, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
When I was talking about the about page, I meant only the Int'l section. Sorry for any confusion! But, thanks for the positive feedback.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 12:16, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
Can we get an admin to check this?
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 23:36, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
It's not a bad idea, but I am not sure about leaving so much whitespace.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:50, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Not Done-Moving

Should I take all the not done topics at the top of the page, "ctrl-x" 'em and paste them in not done?
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 22:29, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

No, the not done topics will be move by their authors when the topic doesn't end/finish/solve after a really long time.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  01:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Well then, I will move my ND post when I get hold of a computer, not a mobile phone.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 02:20, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Just an update, you can move other people's Not Done posts as long as it has been >1-2 months since the last reply. This topic is Yes Done
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 13:55, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Oh, oops. I meant that generally the author's move it instead of others
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  14:00, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

List of deleted pages

(Brought up here after discussion here.)

So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:

  • Mathfreak231's, which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
  • Mine, which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
  • Jammum's Deleted Pages, which are more recent than either of the above
  • Jammum's All Deleted Pages, which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)

I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a Scratch Wiki Project.

Advantages
  • More organized
  • One place for all
  • Can be updated by anyone
Disadvantages
None I can think of off the top of my head

Thoughts? Shall we do it?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
+1 :)
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
I think the page will not be notable enough to go there.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a Scratch Wiki Project. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I say aye.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Are we going to do this?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

The Not Done Topic Directory

Yes Duplicate
This will be a directory of the not done topics located here. I'll appreciate all feedback, whether good or bad. This is an "more professional/eye-appealing" directory than apple502j's (no offense.) Here it is:

Scratch 3.0/Version Standardizing

For Editors (Backend)

Pages

Rules

Interwiki

For archived topics, please go to my userpage at NYCDOT's Userpage
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 21:34, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Two things...
We already have a directory. The very first topic on this page.
Ummm, too many edits. Use preview more often please.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:44, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
I know we have a directory-this is supposed to be a more "proffesional/eye-appealing one." Sorry for the many RCs.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 22:40, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Duplicate. Please suggest your changes to apple502j instead of making a new one. We are not using this.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:01, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

When confirming my email

I have not confirmed my email yet, and I'm thinking doing so. However, can the checkmarks below the button to confirm be able to be turned on and off?
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 22:51, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes they are I believe
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 22:58, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Ok.
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 23:28, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:07, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Templates for note pitches and values

Since Play Note () for () Beats (block), Play Drum () for () Beats (block), MIDI Notes, and Composing Music all have near-identical sections on MIDI note pitches and values, could these be placed in templates? (The only differences are that the paragraph before the table of note values is different on the Play Drum article, and the MIDI Notes article uses &nbsp;.)
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 23:18, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Omigod they're so similar I didn't know that they were c&ped! I'll get to it.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:16, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done and done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:29, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

EW Elections

Yes Done

Hello everyone! This might seem a little far-fetched, but should we have another election in June possibly? A couple of our current EWs have been inactive recently (like customhacker) and I want to say that 80% of the EW/Administrative Work is being done by Ken. I don't want to put a burden on him, so in the event that someone finally lol likes this idea, please "critique" my thoughts!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 14:18, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately, only the admins/buraucrats can decide when to have an elections.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  17:16, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
I know that, but I believe reading sonewhere it said with enough wikian support/lack of EWs is enough to have one.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 17:18, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
I think Scratch Wiki has enough sysops and EWs already.But it can be a good idea because some sysops and EWs look like retired and a little of users are still working and active(like Ken).I'm neutral about the Elections.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 17:24, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Ultimately it’s up to the Admins and Bureaucrats. I agree Ken has a lot of work. If he thinks it is too much we should have an election. If it’s not one is not necessary in my opinion. But if admins disagree make sure to respect their decision and authority! :D
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 20:41, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the feedback.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 21:18, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Ken hasn’t been active for two days. Whilst their hasn’t been any serious admin concerns the role is to build up the community. Not just to prevent vandalism. So in my opinion, Election time!
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 17:00, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Hmm, even though it's been 2 days, we wouldn't have the need of claiming he isn't active. If he disappears from the active user list, then i would agree he isn't active. He could be on vacation right now. As far as I can see, the only admins that are normally active are @ken and @jvvg and @bigpuppy (i know he isn't a admin, but he is a EW).
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  17:47, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

I agree to @12944qwerty,and the Wikis are still working.Therefore,we don't need an extra EW.If all admins and EWs need an extra admin or EW,we must respect their decisions.An election isn't seem in near future now.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 18:30, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
But, the only EW that is currently active is bigpuppy, and the only admin that is active is Kenny2scratch. Most people believe that there should be at least 2 EWs and 3 Admins active about every day, but that is clearly not the case! That's why I think there should be an election.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 21:07, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
Actually Makethebrainhappy (EW) and MartinWollenweber (bureaucrat)(mtwoll) are online as well. mtwoll isn't as active though.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:34, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
No, MTBH has only made two edits in the past month. That isn't active if you ask me. As for mtwoll, he is a bureaucrat, not an EW; MTwoll is actually not that active either.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 21:55, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
MTBH is spontaneously active. I did say mtwoll is a bureaucrat. You need to remember that many of these people are in college or in jobs - they don't have much time, so the definitions of 'active' is different.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:08, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
While their definitions of "active" might be different, we need multiple users of high authority to be on once a day to every three days. Having only 1 EW and 1 Admin follow this everyday is not good. That's why we need an election.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 23:31, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── You people scare me sometimes with your prophetic power...

We (the EWs) agreed a few days ago on an election in June. I'm starting to get overwhelmed by the number of edits y'all are making - I can't patrol them all myself. Additionally, June will give us time to train the EW elects so that they're just in time to help deal with the summer traffic. However, now is not the time to discuss it (and I am putting my foot down now and specifically prohibiting talk about it until it's announced), so consider this Yes Done until June. (Also, please none of you take it upon yourselves to announce the election! You're just being a nuisance and nobody will take you seriously.)

@asqwde: I've been busy with school, which is why I haven't been on in a couple days. There are merely weeks until exams and the teachers are getting nervous. I'll have more time this coming long weekend. Besides, most of my activity is patrolling, which isn't registered on the active users page (:() and which you can't see anyway.

@NYCDOT: Nobody ever said 2 EWs and 3 admins active every day is a good number. [who?] Besides, when I do manage to find time to patrol, I do it all, which takes care of everything usually within a few days to a week. I'm fine on my own, but I expect that it'll be too much by summertime.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:00, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Hehe I check in on a daily basis here, definietely more than my edit count reveals. I mostly post on the twitter page or write Wiki Wednesday at the moment. ;) If people did have questions about how the election will run, they should look at some of the previous elections (S:ELECTIONS).
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 10:34, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
@ken: I can see patrolling, when I posted my last comment I saw edits hadn't been patrolled in a while, but I (and am sure others do) appreciate the work you do even if you don't always recieve the necessary credit
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 09:44, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
June starts tomorrow. Soon time to start the election process (ish)!
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 16:59, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Compliment Tuesday! April 29th, 2019

Welcome to the 19th Thankful Thursday! April 29th, 2019.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Compliment

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Compliments

The Compliments are *drum roll please*

User Compliments
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for pinging me for those two account requests! I must have missed their replies in my messages. In fact, their requests had moved to the "expired" queue when I finally approved them.
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    04:43, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Jammum (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for helps about missed code tags and page edits.I must check all of a page before I save changes.
    Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 08:58, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you coming back with quality edits and sharing your Squeak/Smalltalk expertise! I understood more about Squeak patrolling your edits than I ever learned before.
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    04:52, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks so much for finding time to help the wiki even with your busy life outside of scratch! :)
    Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:44, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The next CT is May 28th. See you then!


Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:44, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:44, 30 April 2019 (UTC)

Happy May!

It's May! And.......... yeah. It's, uh, May.
Alright who cares
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs  Scratch 
11:29, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks happy may the2nd to you too :)
Jjbullet.png JJBullet (Talk Contributions704 edits)
09:34, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
And now,it's the 11th of May;Scratch Day!Wow,1234 events!Happy birthday Scratch!
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 08:33, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:25, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Did we miss Wiki Wednesday?

What's going on with Wiki Wednesday?

Specifically:

  1. Did we miss the last WW?

According to post:3485635 Operating System was chosen, yet:

  1. Featured wasn't added
  2. It wasn't protected
  3. It wasn't shown on the Front Page
    Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 12:09, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
We have cancelled this month's Wiki Wednesday.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:40, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Why??
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs  Scratch 
22:00, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Why we didn't know? I have waited impatiently!
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 07:56, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
We don't have a great venue for announcing this as it has never happened before. I am not sure as to the exact reasoning, but I was told that a preference existed for publishing this edition at the end of May. Whoever did submit did not submit in vain, we will be using the submissions next month.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 11:47, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:44, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
No Not doneI think we have to find ways to make sure that this will not happen again. I'm afraid that if it happens more often, Wiki Wednesday is in danger to be discontinued. I suppose that the reasson this time was that the two responisble people had no time. So I would suggest that we have more than two people to be responsible, what do you think? Who wants to help?
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
12:06, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I'll be glad to help!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 12:08, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Great, I didn't belive we would find a volunteer so fast! :-) I just was in editing my post to to add an idea that could help to create more impact with Wiki Wednesday: See https://test.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Test-Scratch-Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Wiki_Wednesday_Portal there is a sophisticated plan created 1/2018 that still is not completetly realized. I would like to assist somebody who likes to realize it. What do you think?
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
12:18, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, we might have well 've edit conflicted. Anyways, I don't quite understand the picture in that post. Can you please explain?
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 16:26, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
I would be happy to help as well!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 18:20, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Great that Jakel181 and NYCDOT want to help. Perhaps it's even possible that our longtermplan for strengthen the impact of wikiwednesday comes true.
@Makethebrainhappy: Would you like to coordinate the engagement of Jakel181 and NYCDOT? You have most experiences with Wiki Wednesday so you could transfer your knowhow and refect improvement ideas. Perhaps you could even decide to have a changing responsibility "Wiki Wednesday coordinator of the month?"
Meantime user:LiFaytheGoblin has responded to my concern/suggestion by mail:
quote: "Great, I'm looking for a temporary help to get involved in an emergency. I hope there is no panic now because the wiki Wednesday has failed once, that is certainly not the rule."
Wiki Wednesday International Portal Construction Plan.png
@NYCDOT: You asked for "Wiki_Wednesday_International_Portal_Construction_Plan". Did you read all the explanations at https://test.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Test-Scratch-Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Wiki_Wednesday_Portal ? The picture there is not a fully replacement of the text explanation but to help to understand the text better. The smallest boxes in the picture symbolise sections or boxes, the surounding boxes symbolise pages and the outer boxes symbolise web-locations like Scratch-Website or a Wiki-Website of a certain language. The arrwos symbolise links of an entity in that section where the arrow starts to an other website/page/section/box. The concept of "teaser boxes" is allready established at the german Scartch-wiki see: de:Scratch-Wiki:Alle_Artikel_der_Woche. I hope that this helps a little bit to understand the "Wiki_Wednesday_International_Portal_Construction_Plan" better. What do you think?
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:30, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Ah, that makes sense now. Thanks for clearing that up. I think that's a very good idea!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:06, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
I don't see this as a failure of the current system, since we've moved the dates around accordingly in the past to fit our schedules... it is true that I was to busy to write it on Wiki Wednesday, but I had it in for a possible April Wiki Weekend (last weekend in the month) which we have done when necessary. LiFay told me that she would prefer to release that newsletter in May which means that the next write-up is for June.
To make the system more robust, you would need to backup write-ups to default to in case a certain month hasn't been written. This kind of one-time effort to create a years-worth of back-ups would go a long way to reducing the risk of missing a date on our end and I would certainly appreciate support in that process if you want me to head in that direction.
To go through the points in the long-term planning post, I'll clear up how the articles are chosen. The process is decentralized, relying on language administrators to create processes to choose articles. In order to generate more PR-spinoff, the larger German and English Wikis have made community channels to recommend articles (here and here, respectfully). We then rely on the administrators to fill out a google form which I then convert into a post.
It would be great to have a portal for submissions that could automatically convert it to BBCode. I am not really sure how that could be done through an international wiki portal hosted here on the wikis (someone with a better programming perspective should comment on this).
You are also correct in saying that it would be better if we presented historical article selections in a better way to consumers (I particularly like your setup here).
The best way to make the system more reliable on a monthly basis would be to ask the administrators to fill in the form earlier. I always get the responses either the night before or day of which makes it hard for me to include everyone and keep the submission timely.
NYCDOT and Jakel, l.m.k. what part of the process you are interested in facilitating. :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 02:17, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Possibly compiling the submissions, if help is need in that area.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:12, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, as Jakel said, I would like to help compile the submissions.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 19:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
I would be happy to have you organize the efforts to create the backup repository of Wiki Wednesday posts, which includes working with international partners to get the submissions for all the different languages and then compiling the posts for these.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:53, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Page with links of categorized pages

Before you say anything, I'll explain.
There could be a page with other pages that have pages that are stubs, articles to expand, etc. This will make it easier to navigate, and making articles the best they can be. If there's already a page like this, I apologize for not knowing.
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 00:38, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, there are already pages. Category:Stubs, Category:Articles to Expand, etc.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  02:48, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
If you mean a general category of stubs, articles to expand, articles not meeting wiki standards etc. we have that too, Category:Pages to Improve.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:21, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
Oh.
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 11:41, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:25, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Bugs about tablets

I clicked my page in my tablet and I saw it's blue;it had some bugs (for example;my page didn't slide; I didn't see that bugs before).I purged cache,but it didn't change.And then, I pressed my navbox's button, but it showed my references.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 06:25, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Would you mind providing the following information?
  • Operating system
  • Model of tablet
  • Browser
  • Page causing the problem
Once I know that I can help more.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:39, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Operating System:Android 4.2.2
  • Model of tablet:Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 Lite(SM-T110)
  • Browser:Chrome 71.0.3578.99 (Chrome no longer support this tablet)
  • Page causing the problem:It rarely seems like blue and slide down doesn't work.I can't slide the page.
    Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 08:28, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

Interwiki graphics do not work anymore

For example, see graphics in Scratch and Commodore 64. They were originally uploaded in the german Wiki. Probably it is a link problem due to the alignment of German Wiki URL.
Frodewin (talk | contribs) 22:12, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

AHHHH I knew I forgot something! Yes Fixed - I've purged the page as well. Thanks for reporting!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:03, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Templates

Is it possible for me to create a template for welcoming new wikians? I want to name it "Template: Welcomefromgod286". I'm not sure if I can.
God286 (talk | contribs) 08:20, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

It's possible, but not allowed - what you should instead do is make your template in userspace, like what I (and others) do: User:Kenny2scratch/Welcome which can then be transcluded by the same name.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:43, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Ok. I see. :D
God286 (talk | contribs) 03:45, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:27, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

What Happened To Archive 92?

^^ After thread six, everything ends up in Extended Content, and at one point extend content within extended content!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Good point and excellent spot :D. A {{collapse top}} was added either by mistake or forgot to be closed. I can’t edit it so we need to wait for an admin.
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 21:10, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes Fixed.
The collapse bottom was actually there, but failing to close any tags properly. And even if I tried doing it without templates it still didn't close. I've removed it entirely.
There is a lesson to be learned here: Do not tamper with the forces of nature known as MediaWiki tag-closing rules.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:58, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Important CP Topics Directory

Hi Everyone! So, in archive 91 of the CP, it seemed as though @customhacker had created a neat little thing in his userspace called CP Summaries. What this was is that he put the most important topics from CP Archives, and put links to them in his userspace. It doesn't seem like they'll update it anytime soon, so I created a new one! Tell me what you guys think; all feedback will be appreciated.
Click Me!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 22:36, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Cool-cat-emoji.png Cool!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:37, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

“Secret” Compliments

We all know Compliment Tuesday. To suggest compliments we have the S:CT page. It’s a great way to compliment people, but could be even better.

Right now you suggest a compliment, everyone who wants to including the person who was complimented can see it and get posted on CP.

So I thought that’s good but you do let look forward to the CP post because you know if you have been complimented.

I propose proposing compliments on a way no-one else can see apart from the organizer(s). This can be achieved by a Google Form.

Proposed new method:

  • Users suggest compliments on Google Form entering all details as they would before
  • End of the month (organizer)s have admin access to the form and gather responses
  • Posted in CP

This way:

  • Users will look forward to see compliments received and not seeing anytime of the month
  • People will be more encouraged by the compliments

Ideas?
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 07:28, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

There are pros and cons to this... on one hand, people will be less self-conscious about complimenting if nobody knows it's them, but on the other hand some compliments either don't make sense if you don't know who it is or imply on their own who the person complimenting is. I do like the idea of looking forward to compliments rather than seeing them immediately, but the con to that is people might be disappointed if CT doesn't come out at the end of the month due to not enough people complimenting...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:39, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm on board with this. I still would like to keep the non-secret compliments as a second option if we go about this. The main problem would be moderation. With anonymity, there is more of a chance that something mean would come out of it. An unwritten policy of CT is, if I see a disrespectful "compliment" it won't be included. If we were to use a google forum, we would have to have some way of knowing who compliment who, we can't just ask for a username since we can't verify it wasn't an impostor. Any ideas how to go about this?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:48, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps (again) an extension? Special:ComplimentTuesday sounds like an interesting idea...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Guess who forked your report extension ;) (or possibly Special:ThankfulThursday :P)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
+1 for a Special: page where compliments can be submitted and a way of suggesting public compliments
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 16:23, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── But also,Scratch and Scratch Wiki are growing up with "Imagine, Program, Share".Here's an rejected example suggestion:

Private Messaging

When communication is public, people are more likely to be respectful because they know that everyone can see it. However, when posting PMs, people know that only the intended recipient can see it, so do not think as much before posting. Even if a "Flag PM" function is implemented, the Scratch Team currently does not have the resources to moderate it, because of the reason said before there would be a lot of inappropriate/disrespectful messages.

– Scratch Team

Also,we can see other's compliments(Google Forms give this in finish of the form,right?).

Shortly:

  • It's a bad idea because...
  • It means a lot of disrespectful or other bad messages
  • I have some questions about Google Forms security
  • Also, we'll need a lot code(if we'll use the Wiki for this)
  • And,we and Scratch Team have some notes about private messaging
  • If we'll try to check all of messages,it'll mean more time and more work
  • Anonymous and fake users have a big problem(in Google Forms)


Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 20:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I would generally discourage the use of google forms for this kind of project given that you are seeking input from the entire community.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:33, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
I also disagree with using Google Forms because fake or anonymous users could abuse the feature. However, maybe Special:ComplimentTuesday could be the way to go...
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
Google Forms are out by multiple Community and Wiki G/guidelines. A special page is the way to go. @Ahmetlii: If we're using a special page, problems solved include:
  • It means a lot of disrespectful or other bad messages
Compliments would be reviewed before being shown. Inappropriate messages are vandalism and would be treated as such. Yes Solved
  • I have some questions about Google Forms security
No Google Forms. Yes Solved
  • Also, we'll need a lot code(if we'll use the Wiki for this)
Not a problem for me, it'll be fun! :) Yes Solved
  • And,we and Scratch Team have some notes about private messaging
Compliments are shown to everyone - only who submitted the compliment is hidden. Not private messaging. Yes Solved
  • If we'll try to check all of messages,it'll mean more time and more work
Not very much more, and @jakel181 has been doing a great job on CT so far, I'm sure he wouldn't mind looking through the compliments before he posts them.
  • Anonymous and fake users have a big problem(in Google Forms)
Not with a special page! Yes Solved
I think a special page is definitely the way to go. I believe the following are the only questions to really consider:
  • Do we actually want compliments to be hidden from everyone (except the organizer and the submitter) until they are posted?
    • If so, who do we want to review the compliments so that nothing is inappropriate?
  • Do we actually want to allow anonymous compliments? (Note: This and the previous question are two separate questions - the answer to one does not imply any answer to the other.)
    • If we do want to allow anonymous compliments, we will have to still also allow onymous compliments - people can just include their names in their compliments.
This concludes my post.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:33, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
I think we should allow EW/Admins/Bureaucrats see in some fashion. (Maybe not all but a couple)
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  12:54, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

  • Do we actually want compliments to be hidden from everyone (except the organizer and the submitter) until they are posted? -Yes, they are. (I don't need it :P)
    • If so, who do we want to review the compliments so that nothing is inappropriate? -It's named as "be shy" :)
  • Do we actually want to allow anonymous compliments? (Note: This and the previous question are two separate questions - the answer to one does not imply any answer to the other.)

-No, we don't because S:JOIN-if somebody want to send a message, they must join and login to the Wiki.

    • If we do want to allow anonymous compliments, we will have to still also allow onymous compliments - people can just include their names in their compliments.

-They can use Scratch profiles to send a message - it's only a Wiki about Scratch.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 17:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Renaming CT

Compliment Tuesday is, by its name, meant for compliments... but most of the time what appears are instead words of thanks. Shall we rename it to "Thankful" or "Thanksgiving" Tuesday? (And perhaps, since the actual Thanksgiving is on Thursday, we could move it to Thursdays as well?)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:41, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't see a problem with renaming it(or moving the day), though, I still would like not to be limited to only "thanks". What are some other opinions on this?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:34, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Thankful Thursday sounds good
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs  Scratch 
13:02, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
+1 Yes, I think Thankful Thursday is good, however, just like @Jakel181 said, it shouldn't be limited to just "thanks".
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:57, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
To go about remanaming CT do we just want CT to redirect to TT. If so what about all the subpages of CT. Are we just going to remane them to?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:31, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
If we rename it, what will likely end up happening is that anything redirecting or relating to the root CT page will redirect to TT; but the archives won't redirect, that's unnecessary.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:12, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes Renaming Complete!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 19:56, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I saw something that ruined the change of name...
God286 (talk | contribs) 21:22, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

What ruined the change?
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:39, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
No need, the discussion about the "error" is in the talk page of the main TT article. :)
God286 (talk | contribs) 05:48, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
Okay, that's good.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:33, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:33, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Welcome templates

A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:

That's a lot of welcomes.PNG

10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?

To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.

I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea :) I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can :D?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
It has happened again...
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs  Scratch 
20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different??
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Captioning on Pictures

Yes Done Okay, so sometimes I see captions on pictures that have a period at the end and some don't. For example, on Scratch Trends, especially this section, the captions are very inconsistent. One says "An evil kumquat" and the next says "Two kumquats.". I know that if they caption is a sentence, it should have one. But the examples were both fragments (just the subject) and one was treated as a sentence and the other a phrase.

TL;DR: Should we or should we not put periods at the end of image captions that are not sentences?
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
21:11, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure if the style guide on Wikipedia has any information on this, but I would check there first. Personally I would leave periods off the fragements and keep them on the sentences.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:37, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
I found, on actual Wikipedia, their ruling on it. I'm fully aware that the Scratch Wiki is not Wikipedia and that we shouldn't implement a rule just because Wikipedia has it, but their ruling on captioning makes perfect sense. It is here, and I think we should add it (the first two bullets under "Formatting of captions") to our style guide because it will make our captioning and things much more consistent and professional-looking.
Also, when I did the preview, the link to the Wiki page wasn't working, so here it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Captions
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
15:13, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
I would include it in our style guide.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 23:07, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
I will add a style rule later this week conforming to that (though it cannot be automatically enforced - parsing language is hard). Also, to link to Wikipedia: Wikipedia pages from here, you use two "wikipedia:"s: [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Captions]] produces wikipedia:Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Captions.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Okay, thanks :) I fixed the link but I'll keep the direct one, too.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
17:43, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Don't forget to do this! I recommend putting it here.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
19:46, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:54, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Scratch Trends

I think we should add the Planet Gang trend on the Scratch Trends page, as it's starting to grow.
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:23, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I second that.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 15:18, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
It's already on there.
Also, when you suggest something for a specific page, you should do it on the talk page, not the Community Portal.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
19:30, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Ok.
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 20:42, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

Adding to and removing from categories doesn't work

Yesterday I tried to change the categories of File:Micro-bit help.png and File:Make a Block.png, however the former still appears in its original category and neither appear in Category:Scratch 3.0 Program Images. The same problem is happening with all the articles of Category:Music Extension, which I made the week before last. Neither using Purge Carche nor clearing my browser cache helped.
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 05:14, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

I've had this same problem before. Apparently, categories don't update for a couple days at a time. I don't 100% remember though.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  14:08, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
Same problem for me. As 12944qwerty said, it doesn't update for days at a time. I've noticed it's usually about 3 days.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs  Scratch 
15:13, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
It usually turns out to be within a week. If it becomes longer, let me know - I'll run maintenance at some point and then it will update.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:08, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. (It was really the week before the week before last week.)
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 03:59, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

adding a blocks added in 3.0

can i add blocks added in 3.0 to this page
Legobouwer9 (talk | contribs) 15:24, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead! You never have to ask if you can fix something as minor as a red-link fix.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 19:19, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes, you don't have to ask about anything to change unless it will affect a lot of things. These include
  • Moving pages
  • merging
  • Template editing/creating in Template namespace
and etc.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  19:45, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Block Problems

No Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken
Today I started to finish up the script for How to Evaluate an Expression, and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else — it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in Show preview mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in this forum topic?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this?
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
You can use this page.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...
@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks!
TenType (talk | contribs) 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Should words replacing characters that can't be used in titles be capitalized?

I renamed Chirp (Scratch Modification) to "Chirp (Scratch modification)", because S:CONVENTIONS says that words in brackets shouldn't be capitalized (except for proper names). I suppose it would be alright to do the same for the rest of the Scratch mod articles, and update the links? (Edit: Though I can't really see why the titles say that, since there is only one Chirp, Panther, Insanity, Bingo and so on.) Yes Done and thanks Ahmetlii.

S:CONVENTIONS also states that words replacing characters that can't be used in titles shouldn't be capitalized. However, neither Backdrop Number (block), Costume Number (block), nor Item Number of () in () (block) follow this rule, and I think these titles would look a bit out of place if they did so.
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 08:04, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Jammum, I assumed that bumping is okay because Lucario621 said so here (and again since then though I couldn't find it) and I haven't read anything contrary to that.
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 01:51, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes Kek
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:22, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
I don't get it, unless you just mean you think the casing of those titles is unimportant (and are right.)
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 08:53, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
I think what I meant was I approve of your recent moves; I however think that the current forbidden-character capitalization (the one specified against in conventions) should be the correct one; I've changed the conventions to reflect that. One word that replaces special characters is capitalized; multiple words are not. Feel free to move anything that doesn't fit that.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:00, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
Ok, thanks.
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 01:56, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

A question about Scratch itself

How do you see when a project was first shared and when it was last modified?
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs  Scratch 
14:20, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

The only reliable way is the API: https://api.scratch.mit.edu/projects/<project-id>
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,002edit 14:23, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

this custom sig thing is confusing me

ok, i made a custom sig, and i set it in preferences as the sig
however, for some reason it shows the entire text of the subpage
like ~~~~ produces

YaovIcon.png yaov / talk / contribs / scratch 23:31, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
but when editing it shows <br>[[File:YaovIcon.png|20px]] [[User:Yaov 1991|yaov]] / [[User talk:Yaov 1991|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Yaov_1991|contribs]] / {{plain link|https://scratch.mit.edu/users/yaov_1991|scratch}}
so yeah, i dont know
also, in the input box on preferences the code it shows is {{SUBST:User:Yaov_1991/Signature}}
i cant seem to find the problem
YaovIcon.png yaov / talk / contribs / scratch 23:31, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

First:You should make a page like that: User:Example/minisig And then, you should put signature like that:{{User:Example/Signature}}Finally,you should go to the Preferences and write new page to signature and tick to "Treat signature as wikitext".Now,you can use four tildas to signature.
Note Note: You should obey grammar rules as write something.Everybody can make minor mistakes,but you should obey simple writing rules(example:capitalizing)

Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 06:59, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
oh you know what, im not doing a custom sig since i dont use the wiki that much
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 11:10, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
This is the method you should be using for custom sigs, but since they're discouraged anyway I applaud your decision to stick with ScratchSig :)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:14, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Why are they discouraged?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,384)) 16:36, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
I spy with my little eye a custom sig. :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 02:25, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! May 30th, 2019

Pre-Welcome: Hello! Today is the 20th Compliment Tuesday for the wiki! Hooray! In other news there has been some changes to Compliment Tuesday:

  1. First, Compliment Tuesday has now moved to Thursday.
  2. Second, Compliment Tuesday is now on a new schedule; the last Thursday of every month.
  3. Third, We have renamed Compliment Tuesday to Thankful Thursday.

These changes were by community request. You can find the CP topics about the current changes here and here. If you have any question about the changes, why they happened, what's planned for the future, etc, please ask me on my talk page. I'll be happy to answer all your questions for you. Expect more exciting changes soon. ;) Anyways with out further ado...
Welcome to the 20th Thankful Thursday! May 30th, 2019.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Compliment

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Compliments

The Compliments are *drum roll please*

User Compliments
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for all you've done for the wiki! You are one of the most active users and what you do every day truely commendable.
    NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 19:14, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Thank you for always taking the time to edit the Scratch Wiki! I always see your edits in the Recent Changes and you are truly one of the most active Wikians!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:09, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks for all helps and contributions.You always see our mistakes and change them.You are one of the most helpful and active admins.
    Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 07:01, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Thank you. I saw this page like 5 minutes ago and instantly wanted to vote for you. You are a very active admin and helped in so many things that help keep the wiki running. You are really a person who is very helpful in this wiki.
    God286 (talk | contribs) 07:37, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs)
  • This would best go on the Test wiki, but thank you for all of your contributions to the Turkish wiki! It's amazing how much time you find to edit.
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    05:54, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
NYCDOT (talk | contribs)
  • I don't know if I already said this, but thank you for coming back out of the blue with edits of the same or better quality than the ones you were making before you went inactive! It's been heartwarming seeing how you remember everything.
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    05:54, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
asqwde (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for your slew of minor edits! You seem to be the one who pays the most attention to detail besides myself, and you take the time to fix even the tiniest things. (Also, thanks for fixing my username in the compliment above :P)
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    05:54, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs)
  • Wow. I looked at Development of Scratch 3.0 after all your changes and saw much improvements. You had major changes, each over 300 bytes, (more than I ever had). It's nice to see that someone knows the forums inside out to get more references as well!
    12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  19:01, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
Legobouwer9 (talk | contribs)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The next TT is June 27th. See you then!


Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:39, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

No Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:39, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

How can we not share our social media accounts and info?

Recently, I got my status revision reverted and deleted, because I posted my Twitter username. I remember, back when I was banned on Scratch, I posted a notice with a list of my accounts on other websites and the notice (and an Experiened Wikian's alleged response) disappeared in a flash. I would like an answer to this question.
PPL Icon.gif ♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 19:38, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Sharing social media accounts is against the Scratch Community Guidelines:
For safety reasons, don't give out any information that could be used for private communication - such as real last names, phone numbers, addresses, email addresses, links to social media sites or websites with unmoderated chat.

– Community Guidelines

They apply to the Scratch Wiki too.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 05:58, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Ironically, I posted a link to my Tweet here and it went unnoticed.
PPL Icon.gif ♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 22:58, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

June 2019 EW Election

Overview

On behalf of all the Scratch Wiki admins and EWs, I am happy to announce that the sixth Experienced Wikian elections will be held in this month of June, 2019.

You can find the most relevant information on the election page: Scratch Wiki:Elections/June 2019 and the nomination page. Visit this page to learn more about being an Experienced Wikian: Scratch Wiki:Experienced Wikians

Rationale

For a good portion of the past year, I (kenny2scratch) have been the sole active admin, with occasional help from the other admins and other EWs. Don't get me wrong - it's fun, but it's now starting to get too much - as summer approaches, more people are becoming more active, and it's becoming really difficult to patrol all the edits that are made every day. I used to be able to come home from school, have dinner, then patrol all the edits made that day before bed. That is now far from the case. I need help - hence this election.

Expectations/Hopes

EWs elected in this election should be able to dedicate a set amount of time each day to patrolling edits made that day. Though all edits from each day must be patrolled, the elects need not patrol them all by themselves. Instead, they should coordinate with myself and other admins and EWs to patrol the day's edits.

Elects should also:

  • Know the account request process well (processing account requests is what the entire EW role was created for)
  • Have a certain amount of activity per day outside of patrolling. Edits made in the course of patrolling are usually enough.
  • Know how to gently/nicely/politely correct new users' behavior
    • No: "Please remember to indent. You did not indent on User's talk page."
    • Yes: "Hi, I just saw your message on User's talk page. Your comment was rather [positive adjective], but I just want to mention that when replying to other people's posts we usually..."

Conclusion

Nominations open at 12:00 AM UTC on June 2 (which is 8pm Scratch Time on June 1). Good luck, and may the best candidates win!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
12:41, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Sounds great! I'll be sure to vote! also when i am writing this i literally got the message about it lol
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 12:57, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Just a friendly unoffical reminder that nominations begin in appx. two hours!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 21:56, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
I would join, but I'm inactive on here. I was nominated in the February 2016 election, and lost.
PPL Icon.gif ♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 23:00, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Oh; hope you get more active in the coming days!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 23:20, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Nominations are now open!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 00:02, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
I would nominate myself, since I am active everyday and do know a lot of WikiCode, but, ehhh, I'm sort of new (I joined in March), and I think other older users deserve it more than me. So I'll definitely be there waiting for voting to start!
TenType (talk | contribs) 00:37, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── You have no obligation to restrain yourself from nominations just because you think others deserve it more! In the end, it will be the Wiki community (by voting) who decide who deserves it the most. And your age is mostly irrelevant - as long as you have the Wikian usergroup and have a good track record, you're eligible for the election, both technically and morally.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:56, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Also keep in mind we're not necessarily only electing one EW (notice that the election page says "new EWs will be elected")! We'll only decide on how many to elect once we see how many nominations there are.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:06, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Nice! I've nominated myself!
MClovers (talk | contribs) 06:26, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Yep, I've added you to the list. (It's not necessary to report here that you've nominated yourself in case anyone else was wondering.)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:33, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
I guess I'll give EW a shot. Thanks for the motivation!
TenType (talk | contribs) 21:10, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Best of luck to all! :D
TenType (talk | contribs) 21:13, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Apologies to all - a very late rule change. In previous elections we have required 50 mainspace edits and a month-old account; the Wikian status only requires 50 edits, total. The rules have changed to fit previous elections - nominees now must have 50 mainspace edits, in addition to being a Wikian. I have updated the relevant pages accordingly - apologies if this affected you.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
01:13, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Hey, I nominated myself, but it got removed! I'm a wikian, I don't know what I did wrong?
YaovIcon.png yaov_1991 / talk / contribs / scratch 19:04, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
You need to have at least 50 mainspace edits, as stated above.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 19:20, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Help! I just got 50 mainspace edits and re-nominated myself 2 days ago!
MClovers (talk | contribs) 22:26, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Kenny2scratch specifically said this when he undid your nomination:
You were not eligible and you only made just enough edits to become eligible. We're likely not going to include you in the list of candidates anyway because of that so there's really no point.

– Revision 229356 summary by kenny2scratch

And also, make sure to indent after posting.
TenType (talk | contribs) 18:10, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
The rules do say "Any person who is a Wikian, has at least 50 mainspace edits, and has a good track record…may nominate themself." There mightn't be any point other than that, but all the same.
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 23:42, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
At this point, I think it is up to the admins to decide now, not me. I don't really agree or disagree with him being able to get nominated now.
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:33, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

Candidates

Nominations are closed! After much deliberation by the admins and current EWs, here is the list of candidates (in alphabetical order) in the June 2019 election:

  • apple502j
  • banana439monkey
  • jakel181
  • NYCDOT

The number of EWs we are electing this election has also been confirmed to be two.

Candidates: Start writing your speeches! Once you have written your speech and are happy with what it says, post it in a reply here. Remember that speeches must be no more than 108 words and not break any rules stated on the election page. If you like, you can post your speech multiple times - your last reply here that you mark as your official speech will be the speech displayed on the election page. You have until June 16 to write and post and/or revise your speech.

Everyone else: There's nothing for you to do right now - voting starts on June 16. Check back in a week!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:49, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Oh well, good luck to all of the candidates who were chosen!
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:15, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello! I'm banana439monkey. I've been on the wiki for just over four years and have made 2300+ edits. As an active user, I read recent changes pretty much as soon as a new edit comes in, which is pretty fast. This means that I can undo malicious or/and incorrect edits before a person sees the page. Who doesn't like that squeaky clean shine? I also politely notify people who need to be reminded of the policies and guidelines while also quickly, thoroughly and efficiently patrolling edits. As for account requests, I thoroughly read request notes and have experience with ConfirmAccount. Vote efficient. Vote Banana.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,384)) 04:34, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I’m Jakel181, and I’d like to be your next EW! I’ve been on scratch for 3 years and on the wiki for 2 years. I’m familiar with the community; being a member of the SDS, SWC, and the Test and DACH wiki, and experienced with leadership positions; SDS Translators, and Thankful Thursday. I’m extremely familiar, with the mediawiki software, and in the past have found various securities holes in the wiki, and helped patch them up, keeping the wiki safe. If you vote for me I promise, to keep the wiki a more safe, friendly, and productive place for all. Thank you for considering me for EW.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:23, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Hiya! I’m NYCDOT, and I want to be your Experienced Wikian (EW). Currently, I always check out the recent changes to make sure every edit is helpful and constructive, and would be able to help more by actually patrolling edits. Something else I would do would be to review account requests, which will ease the stress on the current active EWs. Also, some highlights on some things I’m doing is always updating the featured studios list, keeping pages crystal clean, and finishing the special pages list, because it’s been unfinished since 2014! In conclusion, that’s why you should vote for me. Vote for a better wiki. Vote NYCDOT.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 22:24, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I'm apple502j, a candidate of this EW election. As I'm working as an admin on Japanese wiki, I can use my knowledge gained there, like ConfirmAccounts. I'm also Scratch developer, translator, and SDS translator. I created a bunch of articles here with my powerful English and I've been here for more than 1.5 years! I'm usually free so I have much time for patrolling, and I know how to moderate this huge website. My timezone is JST: so I can patrol when Americans are asleep. If I'm elected, I'll make here a more-friendly help website. Vote Apple and make the Wiki nicer and bigger.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,002edit 11:59, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Thank you all for your speeches; note that I will not post them on the election page until the deadline actually arrives. You still have until the 16th (not the 23rd, as my post previously said, that was a mistake) to edit or otherwise revise your speech - remember that the last reply here that you mark as your speech (or that is otherwise obviously your speech) will be the one counted as your election speech.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
12:39, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Hiya! I’m NYCDOT, and I want to be your Experienced Wikian (EW). Currently, I always check out the recent changes to make sure every edit is helpful and constructive, and would be able to help more by actually patrolling edits. Something else I would do would be to review account requests, which will ease the stress on the current active EWs. Lastly, I would be able to complete the special pages list quicker by being able to view pages that are protected for EWs only. And of I would continue keeping pages crystal clean and making high-quality edits. Vote for a better wiki. Vote NYCDOT.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 19:29, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
Good luck everyone! :D
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 01:03, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

Voting Open

The deadline has passed! The candidates for the June 2019 election have written their speeches. View them on the election page.

Candidates: There's nothing for you to do now but hope. Remember that you are not allowed to do any sort of self-promotion anywhere.

Everyone else: Voting has opened! If your account was created before June 2, click here to vote! Voting closes on June 23.

Good luck to all candidates!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:26, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Help Protection

Yes Done
I think the Help:Contents page should be protected, as they aren't general pages, they are only there to help out editors.
YaovIcon.png yaov_1991 / talk / contribs / scratch 17:28, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Hmm, I really don't know. I sort of agree because users could change it the way it isn't supposed to be, but it wouldn't really do much, you know what I mean? I think an admin should decide.
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:14, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
If an editor creates a new Help: page, they would have to ask an admin to add it to the contents page. Plus, the Help:Contents page isn't really that high-traffic (Makethebrainhappy can enlighten you more on that) so it really doesn't need much protection.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
05:20, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I see your point.
YaovIcon.png yaov_1991 / talk / contribs / scratch 12:23, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:06, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Redirect to CP/Not Done

Yes Done
I thought it was weird that Scratch Wiki:Community Portal/Not Done did not redirect to Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done. New users might enter that in instead of the real link, so I propose a change. Should it redirect, or maybe even go to a page describing what the Not Done page is? Let me know what you all think.
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:44, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello? Anyone?
TenType (talk | contribs) 21:09, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
I think it works like this:
Any pages that have "talk" in the title are considered completely seperate from the main article. If a title has no "talk" in it, its considered an article. So, basically, Talk = talk page. However, if someone needs to find it, its on the sidebar.
YaovIcon.png yaov_1991 / talk / contribs / scratch 19:32, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I already know that, but I'm just wondering since the page isn't used, can't it give an explanation for Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done just as it does for Scratch Wiki:Community Portal, or a redirect at least for new users?
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:46, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes Redirected
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05:14, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

This article is driving me nuts!

So decided that I should do my first real edit so I clicked the Random Page button a thew times to see if I could find a page that neeeded some edits. Right away I found this page. At first it looked like a perfect page for me! There was some bad grammar mistakes that I could fix and the blocks were a little slopy. But then I begain to test the code that was on their and half the blocks I couldn't find in the editor! Am I missing something? Was this a troll page or something? Could someone help me please?
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya (Profile ~ Talk ~ Contribs) 16:59, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

All tutorials in the wiki are completely possible. So, yes, it is possible you are doing something wrong. Also, -- I hope you don't mind -- I'll fix something quick on it.
YaovIcon.png yaov_1991 / talk / contribs / scratch 22:59, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Okay, I tried it out, and it turns out it does work! Surprise, right?
YaovIcon.png yaov_1991 / talk / contribs / scratch 23:12, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Could you show me your project?
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya (Profile ~ Talk ~ Contribs) 23:44, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Here
YaovIcon.png yaov_1991 / talk / contribs / scratch 00:05, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
The code requires stero headphones/speakers setup for 3D sound. Are you using those?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:34, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────@Yaov_1991 Thanks @Jakel181 I couldn't the blocks that's all.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya (Profile ~ Talk ~ Contribs) 22:32, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks everyone for your help. It turned out to just be a silly misunderstanding.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya (Profile ~ Talk ~ Contribs) 22:37, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
05:13, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

New Template

I thought of making a template for pages with no links. I was inspired by this. I just wanted to ask if its useful. Here's the code:

{{Header Template|[[File:Document_stub.png|26px]]|'''This page is an orphan.''' This means that there are currently no links on this page. If you are an editor, please add a few!<includeonly>{{check date|{{{date|}}}}}</includeonly><includeonly>{{#ifeq:{{{cat}}}|no||[[Category:Pages With No Links|{{PAGENAME}}]]}}</includeonly>}}

YaovIcon.png yaov_1991 / talk / contribs / scratch 01:44, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Problem is, too many pages would have the template.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,384)) 01:46, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, a lot of pages would have the template, and that would be bad.
TenType (talk | contribs) 03:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
We have a Special:LonelyPages list already, and the fact that a page is not linked to isn't really something we need to make glaringly obvious. Anyone wanting to adopt pages can go through the special list.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
05:13, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Is it ok for me to create custom templates in my userspace?

I created a template in my userspace to yse in my userspace? Is it ok for me to create a custom template in my userspace to use in my userspace?

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smileycreations15 (Talk) 09:40, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
If you want a custom template(for example;you saw a header and you want to use it with change the color),you must create it in your userspace.If you don't want to change something,you can use it in your userspace.
Note Note: You must use it with credit;you can change it or use it,but with credit(see:CC BY-SA 4.0).

Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 10:22, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Featured Images Change

Howdy, everyone. The last time we updated the Featured Images page was in April. Does anyone have any new suggestions? Thanks! :D
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 14:29, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Voting Open

Hi everyone! Voting has opened for the currently scheduled EW election.

Speeches & Information: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Scratch_Wiki:Elections/June_2019

Voting Link: https://futuresight.org/wikivote

Good luck to all of the candidates!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:11, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Cool!
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya (Profile ~ Talk ~ Contribs) 02:33, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Yay! Just voted! :)
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:12, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
Just voted too!
Redglitter Profile Picture Mini.gif Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 506 edits) 08:30, 16 June 2019 (UTC)