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== Bulletin Board for Not-Done Topics ==
 
== Bulletin Board for Not-Done Topics ==
 
{{not done}} (this will never be done completely, so don't archive!)
 
{{not done}} (this will never be done completely, so don't archive!)
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Here's some things that we need your help for.
 
Here's some things that we need your help for.
 
=== Are these done? ===
 
* [[S:CPND#Lack of curiosity at Scratch Wiki?]] - articles are made
 
* [[S:CPND#Should "Griffpatch" become a wiki article?]] - seems rejected
 
  
 
=== <span id="Not done">Other Topics</span> ===
 
=== <span id="Not done">Other Topics</span> ===
 
Topics that are not listed above.
 
Topics that are not listed above.
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==== About Scratch 3.0 ====
 
==== About Scratch 3.0 ====
 
* [[S:CPND#A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All]]
 
* [[S:CPND#A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All]]
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==== About Wiki Management ====
 
==== About Wiki Management ====
 
===== Backend =====
 
===== Backend =====
* [[S:CPND#Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis ?]]
 
 
* [[S:CPND#Embedding of Scratch Projects]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Embedding of Scratch Projects]]
* [[S:CPND#Things We have to Do]]
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===== Page Management =====
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* [[S:CPND#Help:Contents Is missing some help pages]]
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* [[S:CPND#Not Done doesn't get enough attention]]
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* [[S:CPND#Not Done]]
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* [[S:CPND#Split the Paint Article]]
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* [[S:CPND#New page for mall simulators]]
  
 
===== Rules =====
 
===== Rules =====
 
* [[S:CPND#custom signatures]]
 
* [[S:CPND#custom signatures]]
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* [[S:CPND#Account Request Notes]]
 
* [[S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use]]
 
* [[S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use]]
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* [[S:CPND#Relax S:NOSP even more]]
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* [[S:CPND#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]]
  
 
===== Interwiki =====
 
===== Interwiki =====
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{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 
{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 
:(I have edited this topic a little from its original version){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 
:(I have edited this topic a little from its original version){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
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::Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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:::Done.
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:::Updated the list as the author.{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::Updated! {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
  
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== Logging server faults ==
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== New page for intro/outro ==
 
 
I think this is a big thing right know so should we have a main space article about intros/outros on one page or on two pages? Also will anyone help we write it?<br>{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 13:50, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:Hmmmm, are you talking about a intro/outro to a project?<scratchsig>NYCDOT</scratchsig> 20:58, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 
::Yes i am<br>{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 16:38, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:::{{not done}}{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 14:38, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 
::::It should be a single article called "Intros and Outros." "Intro" and "Outro" should redirect to it.{{User:Millie S/signature}} 17:08, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 
::::: I think a single article, to which the searches "Intro" and "Outro" direct to, would be good. It would be useful to Scratchers who don't know what they are and might try to search for one or the other but want to know about both.<br><scratchsig>SuperWhale123</scratchsig> 09:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::That is a good idea. <scratchsig>Sti_scratch</scratchsig> 04:45, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::::I'll help write if you want :) I think that's a swell idea! <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  01:18, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::::Shall we begin writing it? <scratchsig>Purple_Ember</scratchsig> 15:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::::}}Sure! I'm not sure what to do with new pages... do we just make the new page and just add to it or do we make it in a sandbox and add it all when it's done? The first one, right? <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  20:45, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|:::::::::}} I believe so. Let me create the page real quick... <scratchsig>Purple_Ember</scratchsig> 22:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
 
== English Scratch Club ==
 
{{not done}}
 
 
The [https://scratch-dach.info/wiki/Scratch-Wiki:Scratch_Club Scratch club] is a weekly meeting among a group of Scratchers which are contributing actively to the Scratch Wiki and to Scratch in general. The meetings are used to discuss important issues, most notable was the discussion if the transition of the english Wiki should take place. Currently, the weekly meetings are held in German, but we used to have an international Scratch club following after the German one. An alternative could be to make it alternating every week between German and English. As a start, who of the English and international Wiki administrators would be interested in it and able to join? And what would be better: weekly every Monday at 9:00 PM CET or bi-weekly at 8:00 PM? Once I get a tendency about the ''if'' and ''when'', I will bring it up at the next German Scratch club, perhaps already next Monday. <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 20:54, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:Aw man! I wish I was a admin. Well, I am pretty sure someone (Cough cough Kenny2scatch Cough Cough)<scratchsig>NYCDOT</scratchsig> 22:14, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:I would definitely like to join, but neither 8 or 9 PM CET work for me - I'm in Hong Kong, and 8PM CET is 3AM HKT... Best would be on weekends, since everyone's time is likely to be more flexible - on weekdays, we have work and school, but on weekends times that would normally be during work/school are usually ok. Would 2PM CET on Saturdays (or Sundays) be workable?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:32, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 
::Hey, I noticed where I live, that 8/9 PM is 3 PMEST(end of school day!), but 2PM CET is 8AMEST which is not good.<scratchsig>NYCDOT</scratchsig> 11:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I know this has been inactive for a ''very'' long time.
 
:::Neither 8 or 9 PM CET work for me either, as they are 12 and 1 PM, which is in the middle of the school day, and I am busy on the weekends at that time. How about an "always open" meeting where you can post anytime? {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 18:55, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::FYI: Time for Scratch Club have now changed to every Wednesday, 8 PM CET <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 11:40, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Not Done ==
 
{{not done}}<!-- lol -->
 
 
I know someone already brought it up...<br/>
 
Anyways, Not Done is not getting any attention. I know that Kenny2scratch already added “Things To Do” on the left sidebar, and the TOC of Not Done, yet no one seems to notice it. I think that we should release an announcement to all existing editors about ND, and all incoming users about ND on their welcome page. In fact, I’m going to add that to my welcome right now.<br/>
 
Any thoughts?{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 23:53, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:Nice idea, support! <br>{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 12:06, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::Thanks!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 15:15, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Support, I think that is a great idea. <scratchsig>Purplewolves</scratchsig> 20:32, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Thanks for support!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 22:15, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::No worries. <scratchsig>Purplewolves</scratchsig> 22:53, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Support better way to mark not done. Should the TOC on the CP mark out all the not done discussions in a different text color, or something like that? One idea
 
::::::{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}}  03:45, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
Perhaps make all of the Not Done topics have bold titles? That should attract attention to them for those who browse the TOC.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:47, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:Maybe what we could do is put the Not Done Topics in Red in the TOC of the CP, the done topics Green in the TOC of the CP, and the in progress discussions the blue color it currently is.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 12:47, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::I agree with KrIsMa, Kenny2scratch, and NYCDOT on having some way to show which topics are done and which are not done, but how would we make topics show as a different color in the table of contents?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:31, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:::That...is a really good question. I have no idea. I really don't.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 19:22, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Suggestion: [[Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]] ==
 
 
It's as it says on the tin.
 
 
As part of this new revival of featured images (and leading on from [[#An Interval for Featured Images]], I propose that we create a page similar in concept to [[S:WWS]], where users leave new section saying which image they think deserve to be featured. This will clean up the CP (just slightly). At around the same time as Wiki Wednesday, the EWs/Bureaucrats review the suggestions and pick three images which will then to onto [[S:FI]]. If necessary, we could also edit the current Wiki Wednesday suggestion forum post to incorporate Featured Images too.
 
 
What do you think?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:This is a great idea! '''+1!''' {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:23, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Yes!{{User:Millie S/signature}} 18:12, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Thank you! Any bits that need improving?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 18:26, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I think the featured images are too minor to have a dedicated projectspace page. I propose instead to have a miscellaneous "homepage tasks" page (or something like that) where you can suggest news items, featured images, and edits to other things that appear on the homepage. Does that sound better?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 19:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::good idea{{User:Millie S/signature}} 19:53, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Nice idea, {{done|support}}{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 21:46, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}
 
@Ken won't a homepage tasks page just get cluttered up? If they had to filter through edits and news items to find featured images, wouldn't it be harder for the admins? Also, having a dedicated project space is better because it's a) more obvious to Wiki Editors what the page is for, and seems less boring and gruelling than "homepage tasks", which sounds like just a big long list of stuff to do. And b) it would be easier for editors to suggest, because having a clearer Featured Image Suggestions would be more obvious to others what has already been suggested and what hasn't, et cetera. And c) having a dedicated page would make it so much easier to implement into the current WW forum post.{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 08:49, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:We could have [[Scratch Wiki:Homepage Tasks]] and have there be a section for featured images, news things, and any other sections that may be needed. Then it wouldn't be as messy (if there were sections). Then we could make a shortcut called [[S:FEATUREDIMAGESUGGESTIONS]] (although that's a pretty long "shortcut") and have it redirect to [[Scratch Wiki:Homepage Tasks#Featured Image Suggestions]]. Or we could have [[Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]] redirect to [[Scratch Wiki:Homepage Tasks#Featured Image Suggestions]]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:32, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::If we're talking about shortcuts, how about [[S:FIS]], since [[S:FI]] redirects to the featured images?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 08:44, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Yeah, that'd probably be good. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:33, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Support to Bigpuppy's and Drunken's last two suggestions. :) Also are we going to have somthing smilar to [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/288005/ this]?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 23:45, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Perhaps even simply add the featured image suggestions to that forum topic's purpose? That saves effort :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:32, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Server Capacity ==
 
 
About two weeks ago, I could not access <code>scratch-wiki.info</code> for 24 hours. My internet connection was fine; the website just took too long to respond.
 
 
Today, when trying to view [[/Archive 66]], I got a 503 Service Unavailable error. I reloaded the page and it worked. However, page load times are still a bit long. Occasionally, after about 50 page loads, the page load times start to get really long, up to ten seconds.
 
 
Does MartinWollenweber's server have enough capacity? {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 16:44, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
: I think yes :-), but keep watching, if there are such kind of problems more often, I have to talk to our provider. It could help to create a list of such ocurannces to analyse it better. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 22:02, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Jvvg made some performance changes - everyone watching this, please keep a sharp eye out for any downtimes! They should be less now that we're not being naive.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:24, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
 
=== Logging server faults ===
 
 
Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 
Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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:Could we have a dedicated page to that?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Nah, just here is fine.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::{{not done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. <small>(archives)</small> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Not too many right now.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
 
== Community Blocks Page in my Userspace ==
 
{{not done}}
 
 
Hey everyone! Following the discussion ^^ up there, I need some help on my community blocks page - [[Community Blocks (forum)]]. If anyone could help I'd be really grateful! Thanks! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  15:51, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:I'd say that although it's small, it's big enough to be moved to the mainspace {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:46, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::<small>(edited OP link)</small> I've moved it to mainspace now, so contribute to it there :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:44, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Added Not Done to topic.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:45, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Add Siggy Warner to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] ==
 
 
So for those who don't know what [[User:Kenny2scratch/Project Guides/Siggy Warner|Siggy Warner]] is, it's basically a JavaScript thing that pops up a confirmation box when you forget to sign, as well as adding a notice to previews when you don't sign. You can still deliberately omit the signature by either checking the "minor edit" box or typing "CONFIRM" when prompted.
 
 
Since forgetting to sign your post is one of the most common mistakes, I propose that instead of people opting into using my siggy warner, we add it to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] as something that is loaded for all users. I think my siggy warner has reached a development status where it's ready to be included for everyone.
 
 
Potentially there could be a way to opt out of it, too - maybe by loading a user JS file that counteracts the effects of Siggy Warner.
 
 
What do you think about adding Siggy Warner to common.js?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:42, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:Support. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 14:05, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::MAJOR Support Ken! Great idea! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:20, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::User-generated content should not be included in the wiki's main code.{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:07, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::@D_S: You are too late to say so - ScratchWikiSkin2 and Report Extension are user-generated. (you called Ken's Siggy Warner "user-generated", so these are also "user-generated".) Do you have any other reason? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 13:45, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Plenty of things that the Wiki itself relies on started off as user-generated things. This would be no exception. As apple rightfully points out, SWS2 and the Report extension are technically user-generated, as are WikiMonitor, TemplatesFTW, and other major parts. The only difference is that the "major" parts have been approved by the community to be a part of the Wiki itself and no longer counted as user-generated. By posting this, I am requesting that the community decide whether this should be moved into the main codebase and no longer simply a user-created script.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:50, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::CA is also user generated. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:30, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::::CA is user-modified.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 07:31, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|:::::::}}
 
<s>Everybody, repeat after me: Stay on topic, stay on topic, stay on topic!</s>
 
 
Let's not get off track about what is or isn't user-created or modified. So far we have 2 supports and one disputed no support. Any other opinions?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:Wouldn't this basically put WM out of a job? Except for categories.{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:18, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::@D_S Wm also updates the FPC, the too many edits warning and a bunch of other stuff as well. {{not done|No support!}}{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 15:36, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::@Drunken jvvg has said he is fine with it, becasue it is less for him to maintain as he is really busy. @Asqwde Why no support? (Just wondering) <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:10, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::(this indentation indicates a reply to @D_S) jvvg also noticed that I'm slowly integrating more WM functions into the core. He's fine with it, though, since it would be less for him to maintain. Actually, WM doesn't need to check file categories anymore, either - an abuse filter prevents file uploads without categories. But WM isn't anywhere near out of a job yet - it has curator updating and rapid edit detection, neither of which we can do regularly.
 
:::(this indentation indicates a reply to @asqwde) Why do you not support this, though?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:24, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Hey, asqwde, if ya remain silent I won't know what the problem is, and I'll just put it in without a second thought - what's the reason you don't support?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:17, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Since we don't have any valid rejects (yet) when is this planning to implemented? <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:05, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:51, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
I support '''+1''' <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:17, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:This has now been added to the MediaWiki:Common.js file. If you would like to opt out of being warned about signing, you may add the line:<syntaxhighlight lang="javascript">mw.loader.load('/w/index.php?title=User:Kenny2scratch/signraw.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');</syntaxhighlight>to [[Special:MyPage/common.js|your common.js file]]. {{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:33, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::I currently don't have my own common.js file, do I need to add anything else to the page other than that line of code?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 23:35, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::@D_S Just that line of code. :)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 23:44, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I forgot to mention that you should create your common.js file if it doesn't yet exist, the contents of which should be that line. ._.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:31, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== New page for mall simulators ==
 
{{not done}}
 
 
Should we make a new page for mall simulators? Mall simulators are sort of big with the biggest mall simulator (Palace of Points) having more than 1400 members. Should we create a page for it? <scratchsig>Sti_scratch</scratchsig> 04:55, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:Maybe not as a whole page, but as a section in [[Simulation Projects]]?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:11, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::Mall simulators, let me explain, are studios where people can register and make projects and add them to the studio. These projects are shops, where people (that are registered in a mall simulator the shop is added in) can buy from. Mall simulators invent their own currency, not tradeable for real money, that is used within the mall simulator itself. So, I don't really think it would fit there since it's technically not a project. <scratchsig>Sti_scratch</scratchsig> 08:54, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::That's a new kind of [[shop]]. Actually, there is no article to write about it, I think. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 12:56, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Yeah, it means that we have to create two pages. for the shops and the sim itself. <scratchsig>Sti_scratch</scratchsig> 03:34, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Couldn't shops in the mall simulators be a sub-section?<scratchsig>Purple_Ember</scratchsig> 04:27, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Compliment Tuesday! November 27{{th}}, 2018 ==
 
 
1:Welcome to the 16{{th}} Compliment Tuesday! November 27{{th}}, 2018.
 
2:WOW! Look at all these compilments. This is truly amazing!
 
 
'''What is Compliment Tuesday?'''
 
 
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! {{e|:)}}
 
 
'''How to Compliment'''
 
 
We have a whole wiki page on it! {{e|:D}} You can find it here: [[Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday|Compliment Tuesday]]
 
 
 
'''Compliments'''
 
 
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
 
 
 
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* We can never give you enough thanks for everything you do for the wiki! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
 
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The next CT is December 4{{th}}, 2018! See you then!
 
 
 
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:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:20, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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== Bot Shortcut for GA Stats ==
 
 
 
GA stats should have a a shortcut. Like [[B:IWB/GA]]? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 02:54, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:Actually, I think it should be a main shortcut like [[S:GA]] -> [[User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:37, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 04:58, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Assets Page ==
 
 
 
Hi everyone! On the Community Portal on the forums, there has been a request for a page about assets on the wiki. I just want to get your opinion on whether it'd be worthwhile writing an article on it?
 
{{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  20:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:Pretty good idea. :ok_hand:  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 08:20, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::I asked them, on the topic, for more clarification on the idea before we start making it.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:11, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== 3.0 Release: 2.0 "Archiving" ==
 
 
 
Hi everyone, just wanted to say - Scratch 3 gets released very soon, so that means that we need to make sure everything about 2.0 has been "archived" on the wiki. Are there any pages that need more info to do with 2.0? (e.g images?) Because after about a month, there won't be a chance to screenshot parts of the website etc.
 
 
 
EDIT: We'll also need to start a page on the development of Scratch 3.0 before the chance to screenshot parts of the beta is gone.
 
{{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  16:08, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:I agree, we should have a 2.0 archive in some shape or form. Though we can still get most 2.0 editor images relatively easily because the offline editor is still available to be downloaded. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:Well, [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles]] will come into play upon release... I think I'll supervise the transfer of those articles to mainspace while other EWs help out in other areas. (The details will be worked out later.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:24, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::If possible, please screenshot all the pages with old navbar. (Like project pages) Credits, Educators and Parents page will also need screenshots. Localized versions are also welcomed. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:22, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I've started [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Development of Scratch 3.0]]. If anyone wants to help, that'd be much appreciated! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  16:03, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I'm helping! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:38, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::: Thank you! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  16:51, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::@ken Possibly we (or/and your bot) can move articles to articlename (2.0) and add the previous version template to specified pages?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 19:31, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
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But some articles shouldn't have (2.0) after them... it'll really have to be decided on a case-by-case basis, so that's why I'll be there.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:41, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Contributions ==
 
 
 
So, I was looking at my [[Special:Contributions/12944qerty|contributions]] and I found that many of the contribs I did were on pages with the User: namespace or the User talk: namespace. I feel that this wouldn't show our contributions to the Wiki. Is there any ways to change this? Or is it from the mw software? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:08, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:Yes and Yes, :) Select the namespace as "User", then click "Invert selection", and "Associated Namespace" You can view it [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=12944qwerty&namespace=2&nsInvert=1&associated=1&tagfilter=&year=2018&month=-1 here]. :)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 02:25, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::That wasn't what I was completely looking for. I also want it to remove multiple namespaces than just one. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 03:12, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Not possible on the Special:Contributions page, but the [[mw:API:Usercontribs|<code>usercontribs</code> API module]] allows filtering multiple namespaces. [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Special:ApiSandbox#action=query&format=json&list=usercontribs&uclimit=500&ucuser=12944qwerty&ucnamespace=0%7C1%7C4%7C5 This]<!-- I have to use an external link because the # part gets corrupted --> will get you your contributions (up to 500 of them, press the "continue" button to get more) in the (main), Talk, Scratch Wiki, and Scratch Wiki talk namespaces.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:38, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I did that but it is giving me a request URL??? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 20:18, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::That's right. Go to that page, copy&paste the link, and open it. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:22, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Everything you wanted to know about Snap!... ==
 
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but never dared to ask, now it's your chance to directly talk to Brian Harvey, one of the developers of [[Snap!]], from Uni Berkeley at the next Scratch Club. If you are interested in joining the Scratch Club (via Google hangout, you need to be 18+ or have your parent's consent) please contact us here. The next Scratch Club with Brian Harvey as guest will be on Wednesday, December 19, 2018, at 20:00 CET and will be held in English. If you cannot join, you can also post some questions to discuss here. <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 11:42, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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:8pm CET is 3am HKT... I really want to join, but I'm likely not going to be able to. I'll leave questions here.
 
:* Snap! is too complicated for the age range of the vast majority of Scratchers, but for older ones like myself and many people here it's just right. Do you forsee Snap! being a teaching tool for teens the same way Scratch is for kids?
 
:* Scratch 3.0 is being released soon, and with it a cleaner and improved user interface design. Do you think an update to Snap! to mimic the new 3.0 design would be a good idea? (Minus the annoying parts of the design, such as the thicker blocks, and with modifications as you may see fit.)
 
:That's all I have for the moment, but I'll definitely post more as I think of them.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:27, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::QQ: Should I share this opportunity via Twitter?
 
::Here are my questions about Snap:
 
::*How would you optimize Snap to solve mathematical problems/applications/computer science problems where large data sets are involved?
 
::*Do demonstrations in Snap help Students understand structures in other programming languages? <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 22:25, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I will ask your questions and protocol the answers. Regarding Twitter, the Scratch Club is very open to new people, but they should have some connection to our Wiki, so it depends who is addressed. Makethebrainhappy, are you going to join? <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 20:51, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I'd love to but I am busy at that time. Twitter is our medium to communicate with other educators and adults who do not frequent the Scratch Wiki. Based on that description, I will refrain from putting a mention on Twitter. :) <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::It was a very nice talk, we even learned about some of Snap!'s secret features. There is a protocol of it on the [[de:SC|Scratch Club page]]. <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 23:32, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
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* Thank you for protecting the CT archive so fast! (2 minutes, that's a new record :P)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:27, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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* Thanks for your help, especially for contributing this neat template for [[Scratch and Commodore 64/Corresponding Scratch Code| corresponding scratch code]] <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 21:18, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you for listening to my 'music' (although I had doubts it was good music - now I know it probably isn't as bad as I thought it was.) {{smile}} <br/> {{User:KrIsMa/Sig}}  12:06, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
 
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* THANK YOU for updating the [[Snap! (programming language)]] article! I was rather disappointed that such an influential subject was so outdated here, and then you, a very long-time editor with canonical knowledge of the subject, came out of the blue and updated it. The article looks very complete and up-to-date now, so I think you have achieved your purpose admirably. I hope you can continue contributing to other articles as well :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:49, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 
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:Could we have a dedicated page to that?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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::Nah, just here is fine.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
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:::{{not done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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::::If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. <small>(archives)</small> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Not too many right now.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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::::::{{not done|Never done!}} Server faults will always come. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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::::::Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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:Do we not have [[Scratch_Wiki:Known_Bugs|this?]]{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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::Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).
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::Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::There are kinda a lot of faults now, I believe we should create another page for it. <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 16:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::::I mean, we could always just add /Server_Faults as the path and switch this there. It wouldn't be that big of a hassle, you can just copy and paste it. And there are more and more coming anyways, so it's not oing to be too long before it gets very long.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 10:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::::This is so long that it's now a hassle for scrolling through CP. I think we should definitely create another page for it; maybe link to it from the CP? {{User:VFDan/Sig}}
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{{outdent|6}}I agree with VFDan. We could also just collapse it, although that would not stop it from making the CP loading time longer.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
  
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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The next CT is December 25{{th}}, 2018! (Christmas!) See you then!
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I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]].
  
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== Split the Paint Article  ==
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I was browsing the wiki and noticed that the Paint editor article ([[Paint Editor|here]]) is '''really''' long and could possibly be split up into three different articles: History of the paint editor, 2.0 Bitmap Paint editor, and 2.0 Vector Paint Editor. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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Thoughts? Shall we do it?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
:It is kinda long, but so is the CP, and do we split this? I realize it's not exactly the same thing, but it's not long enough to truly need splitting.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:03, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
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:I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
::in Japanese wiki, we ''did'' split it. At that time, "Types of Graphics", "Bitmap Editor", "Vector Editor", "Bitmap and Vector Comparison", "Paint Editor Conversion", "Interaction With Other Programs", "Example Uses", and "Alternatives" section is kept. Others are moved to version subpages, such as [[Paint Editor (2.0)]]. Guess what will happen next January here, without the change.
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::+1 :) {{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
::By the way, block workaround page is enough big to split, too, I think. It will be good for performance issues. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 08:24, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
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::: Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
:::Currently, [[Bitmap Editor]] redirects to [[Paint Editor#Bitmap Editor]]. The bitmap editor is a large part of Scratch, so I think it needs its own article. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 01:29, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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::::To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?  <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
::::So [[Vector Editor]] too?{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 03:25, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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::::: I think the page will not be notable enough to go there. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::I merged the previous 'The "Bitmap Editor" Page' topic with this one that I pulled from the archives, as I realize that the original one shouldn't have been archived. If the replies by CrazyBoy826 onwards seem out of context, that's why.
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::::::I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]]. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::Next question: "Paint Editor" will have to redirect to either Bitmap or Vector Editor (not a disambig page, because there's only two). Which one?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:19, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}I say aye.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
::::::There are some sections that cannot be on the two: Types of Graphics,  Bitmap and Vector Comparison, Costume Pane, Basic Options, Interaction With Other Programs, Example Uses, History, and Alternatives. Keep them on [[Paint Editor]].{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 10:40, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
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:@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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:: Are we going to do this? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::Okay, I just created a page called [[User:TenType/Deleted Files]], was scrolling through the Community Portal, and found this discussion. {{e|:/}} <br/> Maybe this page could contain pages only and not files? (I really spent a lot of time and effort onto my deleted files page) Anyways, still waiting for a response on whether or not this project will be started. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
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::::Why not? It sounds like a great idea; let's get started. How do you guys find deleted pages anyway (just wondering)? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 15:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
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::::Why hasn't this happened yet? :P <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 16:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  
== Planned downtime at 07:00 UTC ==
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== Welcome templates ==
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{{done}}
  
All wikis will be put into read-only mode at 7:00 AM (UTC) to move the files between machines. This means that you will not be able to edit pages, upload files, or make any kind of database-modifying actions. This is so that you do not lose your work after the transfer. This transfer will have the advantage of giving us more control over our own systems.
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A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:
  
We have seen issues caused by read-only mode before, including but not limited to broken file thumbnails. If you see any issues, feel free to take note of them and report them after the transfer is done, but most likely the issues will disappear once the wikis are no longer read-only.
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[[File:That's a lot of welcomes.PNG]]
  
Letting you know,{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:45, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
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10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?
:{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:25, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Transfer Done! ==
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To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.
  
All wikis are on the correct domains again, but now we have more control over our backend.
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I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
  
Thank you for your patience! It's been a long three days but now it's over.
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:I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea {{E|:)}} I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
  
Kenny2scratch;
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::I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 
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:::As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can {{e|:D}}? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
A Bureaucrat will provide more information as time comes.
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::::While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 
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:::::[[User talk:StampDanFan|It has happened again...]]{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
{{note|a lot of “Resource Limit Is Reached” errors, but we'll get that fixed soon.}}
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{{outdent|6}}
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maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different?? <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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:Can't we make a User_talk:ACCEPTEDUSER/Welcomes page?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 20:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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::That doesn't actually cause a ping tho...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::We could make it ping though if there is someone willing to mess with the code...{{User:Smileycreations15/sig}} 11:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::I was just scrolling through the CP, and this caught my eye. Great idea, I definitely think this needs to be considered. I understand that people are just trying to be kind by sending the welcome messages, but it would almost be like a horror film for the person who owns the account. I think 4-5 welcome templates are enough, but I think there needs to be a break between even those. Getting 4-5 welcomes in a couple of seconds is also not the best of ideas.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 17:55, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::::We should ask new users for their opinion on this right after they get the welcomes. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 00:06, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
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::::::I think 4-5 is a good limit. I personally liked getting welcomes, but I only got 3 of them. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 14:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
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:::::::I'm a fairly new user, and I got 4 welcomes.  It seemed fine for me, so I agree that 4-5 sounds like a good limit. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 01:23, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|7}}How about one or two users post a template, or we just use the automatic one at the top, and then people below can put encouraging words (not large templates) followed by a sig? This would not be too much for the user, but still shows lots of people are there to support them!{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
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:: Maybe we can create a welcome template, and a bot automatically adds it for every new user.  Any user edit it (just like an article). Maybe there could be in it for all the users that contributed.
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:: {{#ifeq:|nobr|<br/>|}}[[File:VFDan.png|20px|link=User:VFDan]]{{nbsp}}{{link style|User:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=VFDan}}{{nbsp}}<span style="border: 2px solid cyan; border-radius:1px 0 0 10px">{{nbsp}}{{link style|User talk:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Talk}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;">{{nbsp}}{{link style|Special:Contributions/VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Contribs}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;border-radius:0px 10px 1px 0px">{{nbsp}}<span class="plainlinks">{{User:12944qwerty/CPL|link=https://scratch.mit.edu/users/VFDan|text=On Scratch&nbsp;|color:orange;font-weight:bold}}</span></span>  19:21, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
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:::[[S:GOODSIG|Please fix your signature!]]
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:::No, the point of each user having their own welcome template is for them to be specific to the user welcoming - a different message for each one. If they just wanted to add their name to a stock welcome they could reply to the {{t|welcome}} message added by default. However, 10 users posting personalized welcomes is a lot of different welcomes to read - which is why it needs limiting.
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:::Seems like 4-5 is the limit we've agreed on; for the sake of looseness, '''the limit is now 5 welcome messages at most on any new user's talk page''' (not including the {{t|welcome}} message; does not apply to users created before this decision).
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:::@Nambaseking01: Limiting the rate of welcomes is a separate topic that should be proposed separately.
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:::This topic is now {{done|[[S:USERSPACE#User talk pages|Done]]}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
  
<small>Copied from [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/294197/?page=10#post-3364967 here] and [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/294197/?page=10#post-3364998 here] and reposting it here in the CP while Ken is asleep, and while the wiki is temporarily up.</small><scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:42, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
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== Block Problems ==
:The errors have died down now that the Wikis are done reeling from the transfer. I've also written a little bit about this transfer in [[Scratch Wiki#Server Transfer 2]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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{{Not done|Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken}}<br />
::@kenny2scratch: Well Done!! Thank you very much! :) {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 14:35, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
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Today I started to finish up the script for [[How to Evaluate an Expression]], and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else {{-}} it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in ''Show preview'' mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/292813/ this forum topic]? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
:::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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:The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
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::You can use [https://scratchblocks.github.io this page].<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...
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::::@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Wait, is it possible to convert forum scratchblocks to wiki scratchblocks???? {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 03:20, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::::    <code><nowiki><scratchblocks>define scratch</scratchblocks></nowiki></code>
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It will give:
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<scratchblocks>define scratch</scratchblocks>
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See also: [[Block Plugin]]<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 20:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
  
== Wrong Link to Featured Article ==
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== New Featured Images ==
 
{{done}}
 
{{done}}
  
On the front page of the Wiki, if you click "Read more..." or the title, it brings you to a page about SDS curators, but the image showing belongs to [[Getting Started with Scratch|a page about getting started with Scratch]]. I don't know how to fix it, I've made a note about it on the real featured article's talk page. If it get's resolved I'll delete the talk page. <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig> 01:26, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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Hey! Soon, on August 12th, it'll have been a month since we updated the Featured Images yet. This time, I don't want to do them late like I have in the past, so does anyone have any suggestions? {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
:{{done|Fixed}} FWIW - it'll get changed again in a few days.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:03, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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:A photo of somewhere tropical. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
::Okay, thanks :) <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig> 23:17, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
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::I don't understand - is this a joke (if it isn't, I'm not trying to offend; simply trying to understand)? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::It is. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::: The _:))_ emoji. Looks nice and funny.<scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 01:23, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::::You mean literally feature the {{e|:)}} picture? I guess that works LOL
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:::::I'd suggest [[:File:Statistic Rollover Info.png]] because it looks cool and has a random interesting piece of info :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:42, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::::It's been August 12th, does that mean this discussion is now for the next featured image change? Or can this be archived?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 18:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
  
== New Page for Accepted FPC Applications + Regular FPC Applications ==
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== Giving Credit on the Wiki ==
  
Hey! Should we create an article on accepted FPC applications + Regular FPC Applications? New Scratchers may not know what that means, and want to know more. Is there already an article on that?<scratchsig>Purple_Ember</scratchsig> 03:21, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
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{{done}}
:The Curator page links to the project explaining how to apply, I think for now that's sufficient.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:51, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
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I think that we should make a template for credit like this: {{User:Scratch-Coding/credit|Scratch-Coding |template}}. It would be helpful. We could use the remix button image instead of the one I have. {{User:Scratch-Coding/Signature}} 00:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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:When and where will it be used? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 01:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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::What would you use this for, and why? The wiki is a collaboration and we all own a part of it. No one owns a article unless they created it on there userspace where they can so whatever they want with it.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 01:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::Templates are mainly created for mainspace Wiki articles {{-}} when and why would this be needed? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::It would be used on userspaces, giving credit for a image, and giving credit for an example. <scratchsig>Scratch-Coding</scratchsig> 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::::You can use it on your userspace but I don't think it's necessary. Btw: What did you do to your signature? It's broken.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::::This wouldn't be that beneficial to the Wiki, especially if it is mostly used on userspace. I still disagree. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent | 6}} Who would use it? <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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:Yeah, I don't think this is necessary. If you need to credit someone you don't need a template. Furthermore, you wouldn't need to credit anyone on mainspace, this is collaborative and we don't get/need credit for what we write here.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
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::Giving credit is not needed in mainspace and can be done manually:<br>
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[[File:remix notice 3.0.png|100px]] Credit to [[User:Scratch-Coding|Scratch-Coding]] for this template.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:41, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
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:::Let's go ahead and consider this {{done}}.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 17:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
  
== Please add all approved Extensions to all Scratch Wikis ==
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== Tinkercad Codeblocks ==
  
@kenny2Scratch: Could you please fulfill me a great wish an add all extensions (+ other version related stuff) that have been approved in the english Scratch Wiki to all other Scratch Wikis. This is a generalisation of my specific wish, please add [[:mediawikiwiki:Extension:SyntaxHighlight]] to [[:de:Special:Version#Installed extensions]]. I think it's best for all international Scratch Wikis to profit from Extensions that have been approved in other Wikis, mostly the [[:en:]] Scratch WIki. In the (IMHO rarely) situation, that a Scratch Wiki community of a certain language doesn't want a certain Extension, it's easier to disable that Extension later, than to create a discussion process before (when nobody has seen the advantages of that new Extension).  Thank you very much in advance!
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Tinkercad has a new feature called Codeblocks that looks similar to Scratch. It has hat blocks and variables. I think this could have a page on this wiki.
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<scratchsig>LiamSapp123</scratchsig> 19:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
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:Does it have a specific connection to Scratch in particular though? We don't have a page on Blockly, even though it's a similar concept (and even though 3.0 has Blockly code in it).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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::Maybe we should have one about Blockly <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:31, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::I agree that we should make one on Blockly. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 01:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
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::::{{not done|Further discussion needed}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:11, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
  
'''References:'''
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== What happened to link previews? ==
*[[:en:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
*[[:de:Special:Version#Installierte_Erweiterungen]]
 
*[[:fr:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
*[[:id:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
*[[:ru:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
*[[:ja:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
*[[:nl:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
*[[:tw:Special:Version#Installed_extensions]]
 
{{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:26, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:I installed EmbedScratch, CategoryTree and YouTube (modified ver) to jawiki.
 
:AbuseFilter, CheckUser, and Lockdown are dangerous when abused. AF and CU has ability to check one's IP address.
 
:WOn't this go in testwiki?{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 16:50, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::I have already been working towards something like this... The CommonSettings.php plan is already implemented for English and Test wikis, and I'm trying to combine the other wikis' LocalSettings files as well. Part of that will include symlinking all the wikis' extensions directories to one wiki's. Once I figure out how it's going to work, this will be done.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:23, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::@Ken: Great! I hope you'll find a solution soon. If I cant't wait anymore, I will install the most wanted Extensions separately in [[:de:]] myself {{;)}}. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 14:47, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Any progress? ;-( {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 00:12, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::A little on my part, though I am only helping on a small part, with the wiki farm.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::I've now symlinked all the wikis' extensions folders to the English one, which now contains every extension any wiki has ever used. Any wiki can load any extension used by any other wiki now. (This means that the original point of this topic is {{done}} - all wikis can add all extensions if necessary.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:40, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Yay! Thanks Ken!<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:21, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Compliment Tuesday! January 1{{st}}, 2019 ==
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{{not done}} They don't seem to be showing up for me at all anymore. Anybody else?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 02:44, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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:Same here. Did someone turn it off? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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::Also not getting previews (or at least when I tried it on [[Image Hosting]], linked above). I'll ping jvvg (since he was the one who enabled them).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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:::Any reply from jvvg yet?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 01:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
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::::Have you found any information on this yet, anybody?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 23:22, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
  
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==Scratch program image==
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{{not done}} <br />
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The image showing the scratch program should be 3.0, not 2.0, right?
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<scratchsig> Mohie </scratchsig>
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:Not necessarily, we use the 2.0 version for historical references. So, we should have to images for this. One for 3.0, and one for 2.0.
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:Also, could you link to what you're talking about, please? It would be so much easier for someone to know what you were talking about easily.{{unsigned|12944qwerty}}
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::He meant the picture of the Scratch program shown in [[Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents]] needs to be updated to 3.0. Could an admin do this? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 23:25, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::Okay... So is there going to be another section for 3.0, or is 2.0 going to be merged with 3.0?
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:::And also, TenType is correct. I do mean the SW TOC.
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<scratchsig>Mohie</scratchsig> 16:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
  
{{Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday/archive 016}}
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== Scratch Wiki Adventure ==
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{{not done}}
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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On Wikipedia, there is an option for new Wikians to complete the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Adventure Wikipedia Adventure].  This teaches them skills and covers all the basics of using Wikipedia.  I think it'd be a good idea to create a Scratch Wiki Adventure of our own to teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki.  This would include editing tips, rules, etiquette, etc.  I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on this idea and/or if anyone would like to work with me on creating this.<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 17:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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:<b>+1</b> {{e|:D}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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::I hope you're prepared to put in the amount of work involved, because The Wikipedia Adventure is really involved (I've [[wikipedia:User:Kenny2wiki|done it]] once before) and a lot of stuff has to be created for it to work. I like the idea, but I don't know if anyone here has the follow-through to actually focus on a project like this that could take a week or more to make.
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::If you think you can commit yourself (and furthermore get others to commit themselves) you can make a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]] of it. Good luck!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::Woohoo; we got bureaucratic approval!  I think we can do it (maybe not ''as'' well as the Wikipedia Adventure, but still good).  I'll start thinkin' up some basic ideas to start us off.  If anyone is interested in working with me on this, please let me know on my [[User talk:54329|talk page]]. {{e|:)}}<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 05:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::: Isn’t this going to be a duplicate of the  [[Help:Welcome|welcome tutorial]]? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:41, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::::No, the Wikipedia Adventure is really involved and more interactive. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 06:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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::::::Adding on, when I did it, it felt a lot more like a game/activity than a guidebook.  It allows the user to actually collaborate, talk to people and create/edit a page all in a sandbox setting.  It helped me learn the basics of Wikipedia far more than a guide could (probably because I was really interested in it and getting those shiny badges was nice).<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 06:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|::::::}}
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{{Scratch Wiki:Scratch Wiki Adventure/project}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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:I can help some tech stuff maybe? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 17:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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::I can help too! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::I want to help too, so should I add myself or should 54329 do it as he's the owner? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
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::::In reply to both of you: Thanks for offering to help out!  I'll add both of your names to the list.  For future people that wish to help: feel free to just add your name under the "Assigned" section. <scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 05:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
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:::::I just took a quick glance at the Wikipedia Adventure, and that looks cool! I created a very different page a while ago with the same goal of educating New Wikians using a sort of quest system - you can check it out at [[User:Bigpuppy/Quests]]. {{e|:)}} It seems like this would be very different than that, though. {{cool|Good idea}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|5}}That's super cool that you made a quests page.  This will be semi-similar.  Feel free to stop by if you have any ideas for it. <small>''wink wink''</small><scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 08:03, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
  
The next CT is January 8{{th}}, 2019! Whooo! Happy New year!!! See you then!
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== Moving Plural page titles to singular ==
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{{ done}}
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On the wiki, there are many page titles like "Blocks" and "Numbers". This makes it confusing to users and editors, as well as links. "<nowiki>[[Block]]s</nowiki> makes a link to singular that appears plural, but there is no equivalent for singular-appearing plural-leading links.
  
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:07, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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This is a big change in the Wiki, so further discussion will be needed to manage the moves.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:07, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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:Could we start a Scratch Wiki Project? I  definitely think we should keep the pages consistently singular. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 02:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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:: Singular page titles would seem strange, since the plural describes a general thing, there is not only one. Also, I fixed a spelling mistake. {{unsigned|Congyingzhou}}
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:::Many page titles cannot be made into plural form. Having both plural and singular forms is confusing and creates other problems. Singular page titles are also easier to work with, as I said in my first post. Also, remember to not change other users' posts without permission.
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:::Should I put {{t|move}} on the plural pages?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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::::I'll put the template on as soon as possible (on the bottom){{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 03:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Next time, don't add {{t|move}} to all of them; either move them all right away or wait. It makes a bunch of edits in Recent Changes which will all need to be undone when the final decision is decided. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:02, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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::::::So should we move them or not, and how will we do it? We will also need to fix many links and redirects.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
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:::::::Or should we just mark the pages and get a bot to move the, fix all the redirects and links, and change any other issues?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}}
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{{outdent|7}}
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So should we move any of this pages? It's been over 2 months now. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 21:31, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
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:I guess it depends on context  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 21:26, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
  
== HAPPY NEW YEAR ==
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== 2.0 Image Updating ==
  
<big><big><big><big>YAY! <sup style="color:red">HAPPY </sup> <sub style="color:aqua">NEW</sub> <sup style="color:orange">YEAR</sup> <sub style="color:yellow">OF</sub> <span style="color:gold"><sup>2</sup><sub>0</sub><sup>1</sup><sub>9</sub></span>!!!!!</big></big></big></big> <br/> <big><big>2 MORE DAYS LEFT UNTIL [[Scratch 3.0|3.0]]!!!! WOOHOO</big></big><br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:34, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
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A lot of images here need updating to 3.0. For example, the editor in the TOC, many Scratch Cats, etc. When will this be done? <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 10:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
:Thank you! Happy (late) New Year to you too.
 
:{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}}  08:15, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Articles to update for 3.0 ==
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:I've asked an admin to update the TOC image. Not sure about the other ones. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 16:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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::There's not a set time when this will be done. It will be done gradually. Any time you see an image that needs updated, feel free to update it (but be sure to compress, crop, etc. the file).{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 01:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
  
{{not done|Won't be done for a long time}}
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== Thankful Thursday! January 30{{th}}, 2020 ==
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 025}}
  
Hello everyone, it's already January 2nd for me, so I figure I might as well get the preparations started.
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
  
=== Observations/Edit Guidance ===
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The next TT is February 27{{th}}. See you then!
Pages outdated upon 3.0 release are incredibly numerous. In most cases, one or more of the following edits can or should happen:
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
* Parts that talk about ''3.0 features'' in ''future tense'' (e.g. "there will be a new paint editor") should be changed to use ''present tense'' (e.g. "there is a new paint editor") or ''past tense'' (e.g. "a new paint editor was introduced")
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:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
* Parts that talk about ''3.0 changes'' in ''future tense'' (e.g. "the editor will be moved to the right side") should be changed to use ''past tense'' (e.g. "the editor was moved to the right side")
 
* Parts that mention ''dates'' in ''any tense'' should have their tense ''updated'' (e.g. "the official release will be January 2019" -> "the official release was January 2019")
 
* Parts that talk about ''2.0 features'' in ''any tense'' (e.g. "the paint editor has these features") should be changed to use ''past tense'' (e.g. "the paint editor had these features")
 
* Parts that talk about ''2.0 changes'' in ''any tense'' (e.g. "the editor was moved to the left") should all be changed to ''past tense'' if they haven't already.
 
* Take this opportunity to update things that weren't changed from 1.4 days as well.
 
  
=== Progress ===
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== Why won’t this table work? ==
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{{not done}}
  
Here is a list of articles that need to be updated (on their real versions in mainspace) upon the release of 3.0. You can probably already start updating them now. Articles marked with an asterisk (*) have updates available at [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles]]/the article title, but:
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Link: [[User:Waffle_Iron_Studios/ScratchNet shop page]]<scratchsig>Waffle_Iron_Studios</scratchsig> 21:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
{{warning|do not copy articles directly from their 3.0 versions!}}
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: I think it's because the table does not have any line-breaks. See [[Help:Tables|this]]. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Though in most cases the information will be correctly updated, make sure to use your own judgement as to its accuracy.
 
  
{{note|Some of the articles listed below need to be created.}}
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== Thankful Thursday! February 27{{th}}, 2020 ==
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 026}}
  
Feel free to update this list yourself. Add any articles that you discover that need updates; remove articles that have been updated.
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
  
* How to Embed a Project
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The next TT is March 26{{th}}. See you then!
* Blocks
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
* Change () Effect by () (sound block)
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:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
* Development of Scratch 3.0
 
* Project
 
* File:Flag as Inappropriate.png
 
* File:Name bar.png
 
* File:Offline Editor Share Icon.png
 
  
=== Remember to take this opportunity to ''clean up'' articles as well as update them! ===
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== New Featured Images ==
==== Fix typography or other writing issues as you come across them ====
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{{done}}
We don't want to have to make a second sweep to clean up all the weird grammar from tense changes. Remember to fix the grammar and spelling of the articles ''as a whole'' while you update them.
 
  
==== Ask for help when you need it ====
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Does anyone have suggestions for new featured images after these ones have run their course? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:52, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
If a page or redirect needs to be deleted or you need some other admin action, leave a message at [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests]]. If you don't specifically need admin actions, you can ask anyone you think would know the answer to your question.
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:We should really have a better system for suggesting featured images... {{e|;)}} (see [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]])<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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::I agree. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::What does everyone think about this one?
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:::[[File:Animate a name tutorial.png|150px]]<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:12, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::+1, that image looks good. I'm quite partial to this one:
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::::[[File:MakeItFlyTutorialTipsPage.PNG|200px]]
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::::I also like the look of this image of the ST:
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::::[[File:Scratch-team.jpg|300px]]
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::::How does everyone feel about these?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 21:53, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::::<small>lol did you see my message to RC stalkers</small>
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:::::I like those - I don't necessarily think we should have two "ST Tips" images though, so I think we should choose one more.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:42, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::::How about this one?
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::::::[[File:Sig Change.png|170px]]<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:34, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}<small>yes I did :P</small>
  
=== Here's to a good 3.0 release! ===
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+1 to that image highlighting the signature. This should be useful to answer all the forum questions about signatures!
[[File:Hooray.png]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:40, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
:Oh I thought a bot would do it :P also are we saving old articles, for example Block Plugin(2.0)?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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I think we'll go with the two images that you've suggested and the one of the ST. Can we get an admin to update this please? :){{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 22:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
::I thought we were moving 2.0 to a different place and 3.0 to where 2.0 used to be. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 16:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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:{{done}}. Does it look okay?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:59, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
:::Removed some articles from the list :)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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::Yep - looks great!{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 08:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
::::Should [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Front Page (2.0)]] be updated? It's so similar to [[Front Page]], that it seems redundant to create a new page.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::I noticed that many of the things needed to be changed were the same in 2.0 and 3.0. What should we do? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::[[S:STYLE#no-ext-wikilinks|Please don't externally link to Wiki pages!]] And [[S:STYLE#no-link-underscores|please don't use underscores in links]].
 
:::::I'm pretty sure it's the pictures that need updating. Would you mind adding all the files on that page that need updating to the [[#Progress]] list?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::Nothing has changed between 2.0 to 3.0 in Front Page, Messages, Discuss, Profiles. (Maybe more but these are all I've been to). The Project page and project editor are the only ones that have. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::::The front page has changed, they've just been using the 3.0 skin for a while. Notice how the top bar is bright blue there and on project pages but a darker blue in discuss and the profiles as well as studios. Messages have also been at the 3.0 skin for a while. My stuff (and everything in it, like trash) has not been updated either. <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  02:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== 🎉🎉 3.0 Released 🎉🎉 ==
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== IWB Interwiki Check ==
  
horray!! it's finally here!!
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Hello everyone. It's been awhile since IWB has scanned the wikis for interwikis to add, and now is probably a good time to do that!
  
<scratchsig>DeleteThisAcount</scratchsig> 12:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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Below you'll find a list of proposed edits from the bot. It would be helpful if a few people could look at some proposed edits and double check them for errors:
:yay! 😄 <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 12:42, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Yay! {{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 17:27, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Mine hasn't shown up yet, has yours? Super excited :) <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  17:37, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::The conversion to 3.0 is still happening. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 17:44, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Okay, that's what I thought. 🎊🎉🎈 <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  19:35, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::: I feel like Scratch 3 might actually be late, because I am in the EST timezone and it is about 3 PM, and that is NOT the early afternoon. It is more like the middle afternoon. 1 PM is the early afternoon. <scratchsig>LuckyLucky7</scratchsig> 19:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::: Wait, SRATCH 3 just released!!! I'm so excited!!! :D <scratchsig>LuckyLucky7</scratchsig> 20:01, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}YESSS IT'S HERE!!! And commenting works now too!! <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  20:43, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:If Scratch 3 has been here for two days why are the pages still outdated? <scratchsig>16itople1</scratchsig> 08:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::There are [[Special:AllPages|a lot of Wiki pages]], {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} of them to be exact. This is going to take a long time and a lot of effort to update. Be patient! There are still pages on here that were last updated in the 1.4 days.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:32, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::{{done}} {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:02, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Errors whilst accessing the Scratch Wiki ==
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[[User:InterwikiBot/Proposed_Edits]]
On the Scratch Wiki, after the Scratch Website was put into Maintainance Mode, I frequently saw some 508 "Resource Limit Reached" errors. Does anyone know the cause for this? <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 13:18, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:No concrete cause, only speculation. My suspicion is that now that the website is down, people are turning to the Wiki... but we're not equipped to handle that kind of traffic, so we're borking as well.  Martin's emailed me, and I've emailed him... but any solution would involve contacting the server provider and that takes time. Nothing to be done at present.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:20, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:: it looks like the navbar is missing something <scratchsig>DeleteThisAcount</scratchsig> 14:57, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::: Some parts of the navbar (like the Scratch Logo) are missing because those parts are hosted on the Scratch Website. The Scratch Website is currently down to switch from Scratch 2.0 to 3.0, which also means that images stored on it cannot be accessed by anyone or anything. The CDN containing user profile images are still available, as only the main Scratch Website (not any subdomains) is down for maintainance. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 15:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::I like the use of the word whilst. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:47, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== I wonder why the Scratch Wiki does not display the "Scratch 3.0 will be here soon!" message ==
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Several issues have already been discovered:
  
<scratchsig>LuckyLucky7</scratchsig> 18:24, 2 January 2019 (UTC) See the subject.
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* Not properly handling empty interwikis, ex <nowiki>en:</nowiki>, see the ja homepage
:I think the bureaucrats haven't got round to it yet (it might be too late for them to add it). <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 18:27, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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* test -> tw
::Maybe this is supposed to be the wiki for Scratch 3. <scratchsig>LuckyLucky7</scratchsig> 18:33, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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* The bot is proposing adding interwikis to other pages when they already have an interwiki for that language
:::The wiki is not changing due to scratch 3.0 It is not controlled by the scratch team nor hosted on scratch servers so it's not effected.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 19:55, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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* Help:Namespaces has a flat out wrong interwiki suggestion
::::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:03, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== 3.0 is here! ==
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This might take another round or two to remove perviously undiscovered bugs, but with the wikis growing more complex, it's important to get them now. Thank you <scratchsig>ErnieParke</scratchsig> 01:37, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  
Scratch 3.0 is now here! Hooray! Should we copy and paste all of the 3.0 articles into their ordinary pages? (e.g. [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Scratch]] to [[Scratch]]) {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  20:27, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Advertising article ==
:See Ken's long post about Scratch 3.0 a few sections above this one. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:48, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Why no Double Redirects? ==
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We really need to overhaul [[Dexter_Industries_GoPiGo_For_Raspberry_Pi|this article]]. A lot of it is just advertising the product. For example, do we really need a "Buying" section? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 23:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
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:[[Scratch Bit]] has also a buying section. But the entire page is just an ad. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 08:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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::I've moved the GoPiGo article to the creator's userspace (which has precedent - see the last topic on [[User talk:DexterInd]]) and removed the categories & advertisement notes.
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::Scratch Bit is an official Scratch product and must be documented. It stays.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
  
Why no [[Special:DoubleRedirects]]? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:42, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Sonic the Hedgehog ==
:If you click on a double redirect, the first redirect works properly, but it just pauses at the second one and you have to manually click it. This prevents infinite redirects. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 21:57, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== 3.0's Server Troubles ==
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Right now the wiki is saturated with Sonic the Hedgehog stuff, specially the AF pages. Lots of example of stuff are Sonic stuff. The entire wiki feels like an indirect Sonic ad. We should change a lot of this examples. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 11:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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:Other than April Fools pages, could you give a few examples? <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 13:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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::Just wiki search Sonic or Hedgehog. Also a lot of examples are by PrincessPandaLover and need to be changed int more generic stuff. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 14:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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:::If I'm not mistaken, the Sonic stuff is limited to only AF pages. It's fine to gradually phase AF pages away from Sonic content while making other edits to the pages, but don't go mass editing out Sonic stuff. (Do note that I don't really see a problem with a Sonic theme in AF pages lol){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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::::I agree. PrincessPandaLover has always been an excellent editor - they enjoyed to utilize the Sonic theme within their edits. {{smile}} {{done}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:10, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
  
Is it me, or:
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== Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German ==
  
* Project pages are not displaying
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Currently, the links under the 'Legal' category do not are not mentioned that they are in German. I suggest that the footer mentions that the content under the Legal category are in German.  
* My username's not showing in the header
 
* The project editor's not working
 
* It takes forever to get to a userpage that might not even display?
 
{{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 00:06, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Not just you. For a while, no one could comment. Some pages haven't updated to 3.0 yet either. Projects don't remix, and they don't save a lot either. It logged me out for no reason. Hopefully they fix these bugs soon, but the Wiki still seems to work! :) <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  01:00, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Yep, I was having this problem a few minutes ago. It's been on and off since yesterday.<scratchsig>-ShadowOfTheFuture-</scratchsig> 18:20, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::I also had this problem. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 21:54, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::The ST fixed the problem on a release on January 9, which also included raising the limit for cloud variables and fixing blurry images. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 03:09, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== File not displaying in my signature ==
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Without mentioning that, some people might be confused that they are in German, and not English. They also [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 105#Privacy Policy Article|cannot be translated into English]] without it being inaccurate. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 13:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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:Why would they be German?<scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 16:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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::The Wiki servers are located in Germany and therefore follow the rules/regulations of Germany. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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:::Would you be amenable to using the [https://example.com external link marker] on them instead? Putting "(German)" on a footer link seems unorthodox...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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::::The servers are German because they are owned by Martin Wollenweber, who lives in Germany.<scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 11:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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::::: Maybe the Privacy Policy and the Disclaimers can be individually labelled that they are in German, or is that still 'unorthodox'? They could have 'in German' put in brackets after them. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 13:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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::::::I think it's fine the way it is, but it should get translated for other wikis so we know what happens to our data.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 17:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|::::::}}
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Did you read the OP? They can't be translated accurately.
  
Why doesn't this file display when it's put at a size smaller than 125px? <br/><div class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:250px;overflow:auto;border:1px black solid">250x250 pixels image here:<span class="mw-collapsible-content">[[File:1a3c5e7g9i's_armemedillo.gif|File:1a3c5e7g9i's_armemedillo.gif]]</span></div>
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Having a notice at the top of the actual pages saying something similar to what I say on my userpage (the "many other wikis link here" thing), ideally translated into everything, would also be fine for me - I'm only opposed to changing the footer.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
{{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 00:18, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:Gifs are known to be troublesome. Likely the server ran out of memory when trying to shrink it to size. But using gifs in your signature is against custom signature guidelines anyway (they get too flashy if we allow gifs) - just use a static ar<del>ma</del><ins>meme</ins>dillo.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:34, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Remove Backpack Banner ==
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== Updating Translators page ==
  
We should remove the backpack banner now snice Scratch 3 is released now.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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The Scratch Team is no longer actively maintaining the translators page https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Translators
:{{done}} (fyi this should have gone on [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests]]){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:22, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Comments as Citations  ==
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I'd like to remove the Scratch Team only badge and allow folks from the translation community to update the page. Ideally there would be just one or two people per language that would keep things up to date for their language.
  
Should comments be used as citations? Some comments are so old that they don't seem to load if someone wants to check the citation. Anyone have a solution to the problem?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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Would there be a different process for translators to join as a wiki editor? Are there different suggestions for having the translators page managed by the community?
:Comments?? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::If you want to use a comment for a citation, you could take a picture of it, upload it to CubeUpload and then use the direct link or something like that I guess. I don't have any ideas for the current comments that don't load, though...<scratchsig>-ShadowOfTheFuture-</scratchsig> 18:17, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::The Problem with that is then someone could edit it then take a screen shot.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 21:51, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::No, no pictures! We have a [[Help:References#Format|reference format]] for comments:
 
<pre>Username. (D/M/YYYY). "Relevant quote from comment." https://scratch.mit.edu/users/link_to_comment#comments-12345678</pre>
 
::::If you can't fetch the quote because the comment is so old, then unfortunately there's nothing to be done. Whatever material that references the comment will have to be assumed to be verifiable by the comment, unless proven otherwise.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:30, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Scratch 3.0 should be faster at loading comments though...? A new thing it does is instead of loading all of the comments leading down to it, it only shows the comment you clicked the link to and has a "see all comments" button. <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  01:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Scratch 3.0 Controversy ==
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Thanks,
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--Chris
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{{unsigned|Chrisg}}
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:Ok! I'll remove the banner at the top of the page for you. As for the translation community updating the page, we can not allow a different application processes for translators joining the wiki, though they are welcome to follow the current application processes and join the wiki that way. Also if they chose not to join they can always leave a post on the [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/294197/ Community Portal in the forums] with what should be updated and one of our editors will happily make the change. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
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::How will you let all the translators know they can use the Scratch CP, or join the Wiki for editing the page?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 15:41, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::The translators have internal commmunication mechanisms including email blasts via transifex or messages in slack. I believe that Chris can easily relay the message to the translators if necessary. {{done}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:09, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
  
On the Scratch Website, I've seen many Scratchers (I don't know how much) critisizing Scratch 3.0. Should the wiki mention critisism of Scratch 3.0? <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 12:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Turbo Mode ==
:Find enough references to enough different types of criticism and we might have a section in the article.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:25, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:: Ok. Also, I might like a section about 3.0 controversy in the [[List of Controversial Topics on Scratch]] page. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 14:36, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::: Also, a lot of people wanted 2.0 back, so I'll add some refs for that too. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 14:40, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
== Removing discussion tests on [[Help talk:Welcome/4]] ==
 
The page I mentioned in the above title is used by users as a test discussion page. I think the tests shouldn't belong on that page. Should they be removed? <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 10:54, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:The welcome tutorial itself says to do a test on the talk page! No, that's a perfect place to test. Definitely keep it the way it is.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Blocks in articles should display smaller ==
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{{done}}
  
The current blocks plugin has resulted in significantly larger blocks than we had in the previous version. In fact, they are even larger than the blocks in the Scratch editor. Measuring on my screen, the [[Glide () Secs to () (block)|Glide () Secs to ()]] block is 40px tall in the editor (measured from the highest to lowest pixel), while in the blocks plugin, it is 58px tall. This is almost 50% larger. You can see the difference below:
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[[Single Stepping|This article]] is very outdated, I believe we should create an article on Turbo Mode itself. <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 22:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
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:I agree - there is an article about [[Detecting Turbo Mode]], but there doesn't seem to be one about Turbo Mode, as [[Turbo Mode]] just redirects to that article. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
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::The problem seems to be fixed as there is now a template saying it is from a historical perspective. <scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 18:06, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::There is - however, I don't believe that is the problem here. I think the problem VFDan is referring to is that there is not an article about Turbo Mode.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:11, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::That is what I am referring to; I believe we should create an article about Scratch 3.0's Turbo Mode <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 00:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::::You could create an article entitled "Turbo Mode (3.0)" and redirect Turbo Mode to that page instead of to the historical page. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Created the [[Turbo Mode (3.0)|page]], and changed the [[Turbo Mode|redirect]]. However the page is in dire need of expansion. <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::::::Marked as {{done}} however the article still needs expansion {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 19:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
  
[[File:Block height difference.png]]
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== How to make a quiz ==
  
In that image, the block on the left is from the editor, while the block on the right is from the blocks plugin. This is resulting in the blocks not only being larger than in the editor, but so large that they are becoming distracting from the actual text. Therefore, I propose requesting to the current creator of the blocks plugin that the blocks be made smaller. This will result both in the blocks more accurately resembling what you see in the editor and having them be less distracting from the text in articles. They would look something like this:
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[big] What Is A Quiz? [/big]
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{{unsigned|Cs1760724}}
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:This isn’t the purpose of the Community Portal. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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::I was actually just about to make a tutorial for that. What a coincidence~! {{smile}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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::: [[Creating a Quiz]] already exists. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 16:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::I've redirected [[How to Make a Quiz]] to [[Creating a Quiz]]. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 16:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Hi, please don't make topics on Scratch-related topics on the Scratch Wiki! For that, you can go to the Scratch "Help with Scripts" or "Questions about Scratch" forums: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/7/ https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/4/<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 15:39, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::::@Jammum I meant on my website :) (it's been created). I'm going to call this topic {{done}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:07, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
  
[[File:Smaller Scratchblocks.png]]
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== WikiMonitor is hurting me ==
What do people think?<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:50, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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{{Done}}
:<small>I saw your mistake {{e|:D}}</small>
 
:I agree, It is way to big to read with. '''+1''' <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:11, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::I implemented a fix for this on the Wiki extension when it was added, so I'm confused - are you talking about the forums plugin or the blocks as displayed on the Wiki? Because on the Wiki it looks like this:
 
<sb>glide () secs to ( v)</sb>[[File:Block height difference.png]]
 
::Three blocks - left is actual rendered inline scratchblocks; middle is the "small" block in the image in the OP; right is the "big" block in the OP image.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:24, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::I'm talking about blocks as displayed on the Wiki. The big block in the image is how the blocks display for me on the Wiki (latest version of Firefox on Windows 10). They should display in a size more like what they appear like in the program (small block in the image) or possibly slightly smaller.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:56, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Scratch Block Images ==
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Wow, so I just added the <nowiki>{{Done}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{-}}</nowiki> templates before the title of a message, and I signed my message under it. The only thing is, I accidentally forgot to add the done thing, so I had to edit my post and put that there. That message was from Wikibot. And ''then'', when I did that, I got another message from WikiMonitor saying that I didn't sign the post meanwhile I'd just added the templates to the title.  
So, I thought we were basically done with converting things to 3.0. The thing is, most block pages show 2.0 style blocks. For example, look [[() - () (block)|here]]. Before I updated the picture, it was a 2.0 file. Are these supposed to be like this or should we update them all? <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig> 00:10, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:We should update the images. However, the current image filenames include "2.0", so we should upload them under new files (like "3.0 () - ().png" or whatever) and keep the older ones for historical purposes.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:57, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Okay. I've updated a few of them already, can you undo image updates? <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  18:52, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::I already restored the old versions. The versions you uploaded are still there under the file history, so you can re-upload those under new filenames.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:53, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Okay, thanks. :) <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  19:53, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Wiki Wednesday suggestion link should be on the left? ==
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Now, maybe this sounds very stupid, but I'm pretty sure I've done this before and WikiMonitor didn't come at me like that. What's going on?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 15:37, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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:The problem is that you forgot to sign the edit where you added {{t|done}}, which caused WikiMonitor to message you. I've left a tip on your talk page <small>(wow you already responded to it)</small> <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 16:20, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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:: I am a fast clicker when it comes to messages on the SW (I feel strangely lonely here XD)<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 09:43, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::Well, I guess this is {{Done}} now.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 12:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
  
^<br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:32, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Lancer PFP trend ==
:Elaborate?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:07, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Just like you include 'things to do' in ''For Editors''. Include Wiki Wednesday suggestion link there too. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:34, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== 3.0 updating question  ==
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In the last few days, a PFP trend about Lancer from Deltarune has been on many Scratcher's PFPs. They normally replace the eyes and mouth of their face to Lancer's eyes and mouth. @-BoyMcBoy- was the first popular Scratcher to do it, and he got the face from @MusicManJoe. Is this notable enough to add to the Scratch Trends page?
  
Should we rename the page [[Getting Started with Scratch]] to [[Getting Started with Scratch 2.0]] and create a new page called [[Getting Started with Scratch 3.0]]? Because some people (Mainly teachers who's curriculum is based around S2) will still use the offline 2.0 editor.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>PaddlerGames</scratchsig> 12:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
:A copy of the page before I began updating it can be found [[User:Drunken Sailor/Sandbox/Getting Started with Scratch|here]].{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 22:44, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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:I have not seen this trend at all on Scratch.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 02:56, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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::Neither have I{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::I have not personally seen it myself, although I can confirm that it does appear to be a trend. I have seen and responded to almost a dozen or more forum topics asking about this trend.{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 19:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
  
==Syntax Highlighting==
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== Scratch Wiki YT Channel ==  
Was syntax highlighting removed? I don't see the color wheel at the top of the editor anymore.
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Hi everyone! I wanted to put a little feeler out there to see who was interested in participating/creating content for a possible Scratch Wiki YT Channel. We would publish wiki-like content within YT's video format. We could then link to this content from within the Wiki. You could for example create a Scratch tutorial, run-through a certain block or feature, or discuss a recent community venture you participated in. If y'all are interested in seeing this idea come to fruition, please comment to express your interest and volunteer yourself for content creation. Thanks! <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 14:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 11021.81.0, Chrome 70.0.3538.110, Flash 31.0 (release 0)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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:I think that this would compete with the [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Scratch Wiki Adventure|Scratch Wiki Adventure]] though... {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 15:04, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
:I also have the same problem. I refresh a couple of times and it works but I fear that it is happening more often. Something is wrong... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:38, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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::I don't really see much benefit in it. Why would we need this? We already have Wiki Wednesday.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
::It has not been removed. There is just a bug where most of the time, it loads without. A few hard refreshes will temporarily fix it. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:42, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::Well we would be able to produce varied content aside from Wiki Wednesday. People have also suggested tutorials for S:WELCOME to me privately. We'd be modeling it in some regards to Wikipedia's YT Channel. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 16:32, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::I'm interested! But... What do you mean by "volunteer yourself for content creation"? Is there a specific page to apply? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}}
  
== HTTP and HTTPS versions of the site ==
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== Scratch Links ==
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{{done}}
  
Every time, I notice that there are both HTTP and HTTPS versions of the Scratch Wiki website, with logging in/out independent of each other (if I am logged in on one, the other may be different). This recently started, with the first incident on January 6. What's happening to the site? {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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Maybe we can add a new brackets thing for Scratch Links. For example: <code><nowiki>[[Scratch/User:Example]]</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>[[Scratch/Project:Example]]</nowiki></code>. For other links, we could just do <code><nowiki>[[Scratch:{stuff after scratch.mit.edu/}]]</nowiki></code>. Thoughts? {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 23:30, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
:I know some browsers, (such as Brave) will automatically upgrade to https.<scratchsig>RonTheNerd</scratchsig> 04:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
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:My reasoning for this is that it looks much better if it looked like an internal link instead of an external link. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
::This is due to an htaccess issue, I think - we just don't redirect requests from http to https, and most browsers don't send https cookies to the http version of the same site. I'll fix the htaccess files at some point.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
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:: That sounds like a good idea! <scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 20:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
:::Yeah, it was an htaccess issue. {{done|Fixed}}, http now redirects to https.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::"Scratch/Project:" is too long of a prefix IMO and also they shouldn't have caps. I've been considering adding <code>project:</code> and <code>studio:</code> - is there any other type of thing on Scratch that gets linked to often?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 00:53, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
::::{{done|Your Post Fixed}}, http redirects to https. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:23, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::: Well we already have Discussion Forums, possibly <code>user:</code>? I don't know how often this would be linked to though. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 14:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC){{outdent|4}}
:::::Thanks, I've edited my message lol{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::{{done}}{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:07, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
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I created a template for Scratch links [[Template:Scratch|in here]] and it worked. Everybody can use it with this code:<code><nowiki>{{scratch|write there your link code(when you write studios and projects' code, don't use their names)|write in there why are you using it:user,studio,project}}</nowiki></code><scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 20:20, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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:Ahmetlii, please correct me if I'm wrong, but your template still seems to produce external links. VFDan is suggesting a system that would produce internal links. I've re-marked this section as {{not done}}.
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:<small>Also, a template-related thing: you put <nowiki><onlyinclude></nowiki> tags around the <nowiki>{{/doc}}</nowiki>, but they should have been <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> tags, because you don't want to include the doc in the template. Overall though, nice template! {{e|:)}}</small><br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:40, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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::(I've fixed the <nowiki><onlyinclude></nowiki> error)<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::Thanks for edits Bigpuppy. I saw your edits and my mistake. My template is still a temporary solution because it's pretty new template and including problems. I will remove external links as soon as possible.<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 21:06, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::: EWs or above can just set up [[Help:Interwiki|Interwiki]] to do links to projects, users, and studios. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:16, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::::A quick correction - it looks like [[Special:ListGroupRights|only bureaucrats]] can edit Interwiki data.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:30, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::::<code>user:</code> won't work - that conflicts with the User: namespace. I've added <code>project:</code> and <code>studio:</code> now, though. We'll need to figure out an alternative for linking to Scratch users - maybe <code>users:</code>?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:47, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}What about <code>profile:</code>?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:09, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
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:^^^ <code>profile:</code> should work. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:17, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
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::Yea <code>profile:</code> seems good. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 15:24, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::Alright, {{done}}! I've also added a general-purpose <code>scratch:</code> whose argument is just the path after the slash - <code><nowiki>[[scratch:conference]]</nowiki></code> produces [[scratch:conference]].{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:40, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::Thanks! This will be really helpful for editors! {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 16:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Added it to [[S:STYLE]], at [[Scratch Wiki:Style Guide#internal-scratch-links|internal-scratch-links]]. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 23:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|:::::}}
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TenType pointed out something very relevant - [[Project:104]] links to [[Scratch Wiki:104]]! I'd forgotten about this - "project" is a namespace alias for whatever the meta-namespace is. I've renamed <code>project:</code> to <code>projects:</code> to get around this; and for consistency, <code>studio:</code> is now <code>studios:</code> and <code>profile</code> is now <code>users:</code> (the last one because "users" isn't a namespace while "user" is). The <code>scratch:</code> prefix remains unchanged. FYI!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:24, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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:{{cool}} Thanks, TenType and Ken.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
  
== Featured Images ==
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== Thankful Thursday! April 30{{th}}, 2020 ==
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 027}}
  
It's been >1 month since we changed the Featured Images! Anyone have new ones? {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
: What about this?
 
:[[File:Scratch cat.png|100px|thumb|left|The Scratch Cat's new appearance in Scratch 3.0.]]
 
{{----}}
 
{{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  18:46, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::What about the 3.0 editor, project page? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:35, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Isn't the Scratch Cat the same as it was in 2.0? How about one of the new sprites added in the 3.0 Countdown projects? <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 04:54, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::No, the image is not the same. The whiskers are in different places and the lines aren't as sharp. Also, beneath the eyes is smooth rather than jagged lines. There are also no creases at the forehead. I think that the new Scratch cat is a good one :) <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig> 20:56, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Experimental caching ==
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The next TT is May 28{{th}}. See you then!
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 14:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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:{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 14:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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::I don't know if MakeTheBrainHappy wants to fix this, but It says "...brings '''there''' own ideas" where it should say "...brings '''their''' own ideas" :P{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 18:13, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
  
I have enabled file caching in MediaWiki in order to improve performance. The basic idea is that once a page is converted from Wiki markup to HTML code once, it just saves the result and uses that all future times the page is requested rather than parsing it again.
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== Can someone please help ==
  
This shouldn't affect most of you too much, but you will probably notice this:
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Can someone protect [[User talk:Dilek10/Archive 1|this talk page archive]]? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 11:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
*When you load a page for the first time after editing it or if it hasn't been opened by anyone in a while, it will take slightly longer to load
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:{{done}} - in the future please place such requests on [[S:CPSYS]].{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
*Every time you or someone else loads a page after that, it will load slightly faster
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::Thanks, and alright! {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 11:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
  
Please let me know if any issues come up from this.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:08, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Scratch +  the Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics by Stephen Wolfram==
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Hi everyone! I've been asked to give you a heads up about an excellent program over on the DE Wiki: [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Scratch-Wiki:Scratch_Club Scratch Club]. I've been a few times (and would love to attend more) and the discussions relate both the Wiki and fascinating technology. The meetings are for international audiences as well with English as a standardized language. Here is a little sneak peak as to what they will be discussing at the next meeting taking place on May 20th, 2020 at *6:30 G.M.T - 8:30 C.E.S.T (Germany)*.
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* Offtopic: https://youtu.be/60P7717-XOQ (Stephen Wolfram: Computing a Theory of Everything) - This month Stephen Wolfram presented a breakthrough in his thoughts concerning the creation of an entirely new model of the world based on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automata_theory Automata Theory]. He thereby wishes to better explain the laws concerning space, time, energy and matter in a clearer light than previous models. In this manner he is one step closer to achieving his life goal which he presented in the TED-talk linked above ten years ago. Here is his presentation from 4/14/2020 in which he explains his theories as well as he can and affords all interested listeners an opportunity to share his joy in the solution. If his theory is correct, it may be a breakthrough as great as that of Newton and Einstein. Fascinating! https://youtu.be/rbfFt2uNEyQ (Wolfram Physics Project Launch: 14. April 2020)
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* The topic above isn't *offtopic* at all but a great idea for us! Who will find the Scratch program that best interprets "Rule 30"? Or who will program it? Who will write a Scratch Wiki article for it that is of such quality that it will be in Wiki Wednesday for both the English and German Wikis at the same time? *This must become a theme within the Scratch community* Why? It is the best example for Scratch's motto: "low floor high ceiling." Every student can appreciate "Rule 30" and even program it, but the implications point to a "Theory of Everything."
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** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_30 (EN)
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** https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regel_30 (DE)
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** https://youtu.be/VguG_y05Xe8 (Cellular Automata and Rule 30 (Stephen Wolfram)  AI Podcast Clips)
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** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton
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** [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Conways_Spiel_des_Lebens Conway's Game of Life] (Artikel here with the most relevance - DE only)
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** https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/388985821/ (the first Scratch project I discovered)
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** What Stephen Wolfram has discovered now after fifty years of research efforts and the subject of his new book being published at the end of May is a setup for Cellular Automata with which you can model everything from particle physics to cosmology... but now we are desperately looking for the "correct rule." This would be an analogy to the previous "Rule 30" that inspired Stephen's interest to study this new field of science: "the complexity theory."
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** Here Stephen Wolfram explains why he decided to make his quest (essentially the search for a new Rule 30 that explains what holds the world together) a public project: https://youtu.be/DwjAVp0ig9g (Wolfram Physics Project: Why we Chose to do Science in the Open with Q&A on the Backstory)
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** Book Recommendation 1: „ Stephen Wolfram - 2020 - A Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics“ - Das Buch will be published at the end of May https://www.amazon.de/dp/1579550355/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_NkRQEb52WCN8C
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** Book Recommendation 2: „Stephen Wolfram - 2016 - A New Kind of Science (English Edition“ (Ein 10 cm thick doorstopper (very thick book), that has so many pictures it is a sight to behold even for those without perfect English reading comprehension) https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B01N1I83V8/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=
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** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton - Reference: „Wolfram has conjectured that many class 4 cellular automata, if not all, are capable of universal computation. This has been proven for Rule 110 and Conway's Game of Life.“
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** https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zellul%C3%A4rer_Automat - within this article it discusses “Wolframs one-dimensional Universe“ (+ Rule 110)
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** https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=E8kUJL04ELA&list=PLt5AfwLFPxWIL8XA1npoNAHseS-j1y-7V (Playlist - John Conway on Numberphile including „ Does John Conway hate his Game of Life?“ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Horton_Conway - John Horton Conway (* 26. Dezember 1937 in Liverpool, United Kingdom; '''† 11. April 2020''' in New Brunswick, New Jersey, United States) was a British mathematician.
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* Determine the "Scratch Project of the Week"
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* Suggest Wiki-Wednesday Articles
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* [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Vorlage:News&action=edit ggf. Post the News! (DE)]
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* Go through the latest messages, specifically [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Spezial:Letzte_%C3%84nderungen], review author task list [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Scratch-Wiki:Links_f%C3%BCr_Autoren]
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I hope that you find these topics interesting yourself and mark down the time to join the meeting! Please let [[User:MartinWollenweber|@MartinWollenweber]] know if you are interested in joining the group where the discussion will take place. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 15:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
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:@Makethebrainhappy: Thank you very much for translating and sharing with the english Scratch Wiki Community! I hope this idea is as interesting to some of you as it is to me. Hope some of you "catch fire" and start their own creative activities. What do you think? {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
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::...I keep wanting to join, but I'm afraid I've been struck down once again by the time - 8:30pm CEST = 2:30am HKT ._.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:43, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::IMHO it‘s not important, to join the scheduled german Scratch Club Onlinemeeting, but to consider if and how we integrate Stephen Wolframs breakthrough into Scratch and Scratch Wikis activities. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 04:58, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::'''@Makethebrainhappy:''' Would you mind if we change the subject to " Sratch +  the Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics by Stephen Wolfram" ? It's more about that than about the "Scratch Club Meetings (DE)"... {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 18:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::::No, not at all. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:39, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Thanks, [[:de:SC]] will start next week Wednesday 20.5. at 20:30 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Time Makethebrainhappy knows how to join (please don't share our Google Hangout Link public!!) {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
  
:I noticed that when I load talk pages such as the Community Portal, it takes 5-7 seconds even when no comments have been added. After reloading again, it loads with the same speed. <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 05:24, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Revamping and Reviving [[S:CPND]] ==
::Hm, you're right - it usually takes a few extra seconds to load. Let me poke around...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:40, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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{{not done}}
 
 
:::I noticed now that when I scroll to the bottom of the page, the text doesn't load. It is just the page box (warnings show up for some reason) and a blue background <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 02:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::"warnings"? What do you mean? (and if you mean what I think you mean, can you tell me what the warnings say?){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:41, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
:::::{{Warning}} as in these. It also suddenly got really laggy while I was editing my user page, then it took 15+ seconds to load the Community Portal... <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 05:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
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<small>Yes, I know there are already two topics about this, but this one has a very specific suggestion that can be implemented relatively quickly if people agree.</small>
::::::Sudden lag is better than lag all the time... but now I'm really confused. Next time you see that happen, could you take a screenshot and post that here? (I recommend uploading the screenshot to https://cubeupload.com and not the Wiki, thanks.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::::Now it takes 30 seconds to load a page, and the Community Portal page took way longer, so I just deleted the tab. It also didn't let me log in for a minute. BTW I'm on Chrome<scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 16:20, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|7}}
 
What is the browser/operating system? Maybe that makes a difference?<br/>
 
Mine is: '''''ChromeOS 11151.59.0, Chrome 71.0.3578.94'''''<br/>
 
Also, I don't know if it is just me but syntax Highlight is working more often again. I don't know if this was the reason... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:20, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:Same stuff here, although there is an update available now <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 05:46, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Please revert it, I've been gettting 5 errors just to say this. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 16:02, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Yes, when I saved my page it didn't save, and it didn't load any pages after that for around 4 hours (this happened in the morning). It just showed a dead loading thingy on the tab of the page. <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 01:30, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Let me clarify multiple things here:
 
::::Operating system and browser are ''irrelevant'' to loading issues.
 
::::Delays and slowdowns are being caused by the ''database'', not caching.
 
::::I think I've narrowed down the cause for the syntax highlighting for the editor not working all the time: it only activates when the URL parameters are exactly "?title=...&action=edit", no more, no less. (Hypothesis, as yet untested.) Again, ''not caused by caching''.
 
::::Let me explain what caching is so that you don't treat it as a black box that causes all problems. Here's the process for our current system of caching. When a page loads:
 
:::# First, the kind of user is determined. ''If the user is not an anonymous user, no caching is done.'' No logged-in user is shown a cached page, i.e. none of your troubles could be caused by caching because you are logged in and are therefore ignored by caches! (Additionally, anonymous users who have unchecked talk page messages are also not shown cached pages, but anonymous users cannot possibly have talk page messages on this wiki so that is irrelevant.)
 
:::# Second, the kind of page is determined. Caching is only done for pages that:
 
:::#* are not special pages (i.e. pages that start with "Special:")
 
:::#* are not redirects
 
:::#* are being viewed in the current version (latest revision), normal wiki view, no URL parameters, nothing but the page itself.
 
:::# Third, MW checks whether there is a cached version of the page. (These are stored as HTML files in a directory.)
 
:::#* If there is, that gets directly served and the request ends there.
 
:::#* If there is not:
 
:::## The page's content is retrieved from the database.
 
:::## The retrieved content is saved in the cache directory.
 
:::## The cached content is served the same way it would if it was already cached.
 
::::There is no way that caching could be causing any of your problems because, once more, it is not done for logged-in users. Try to investigate further as to the cause of problems instead of just assuming "oh, it's just that 'caching' thing again".{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:29, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Trends ==
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As you probably know, there's a section of the CP specifically for topics that are not yet done and haven't been done for a while. Users can access it by going to [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done]] or [[S:CPND]], or alternatively via the "Things to Do" link under "For Editors" in the sidebar. The unavoidable fact is that these topics hardly ever get looked at. By anyone.
  
<p>Hey! I wanted to add the Thanos Cat Trend to the [[Scratch_Trends|Trends page]] under "Icons". I don't know if there are enough people who have done it for it to qualify as a trend, and I don't know who started it. Can someone help me find the information and tell me if it is even a trend? Thanks!</p>
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There have already been two topics created about this issue and how to solve it, [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Not Done doesn't get enough attention|Not Done doesn't get enough attention]] and [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Not Done|Not Done]]. Kenny2scratch introduces his topic (the former one) with "So I was browsing through Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done and realized that all of the discussions had been moved there and left to rot simply because they happened to last longer than an archive period." The unfortunate thing is, this is still happening. And not only that, but ironically, it's happening to both of the topics I linked. Ken's is from February of ''(drumroll, please)'' 2018. I am not about to propose a "cure-all" solution to this problem, but something that ''could help.'' In other words, it definitely won't solve the problem, but it might assist a bit in solving it.
<scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 22:26, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Reference for blog.scratch.mit.edu ==
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Well, let's get onto the idea already, shall we? I think that when people ''do'' hear about Not Done, and go to it (wanting to contribute to a discussion), they may get frightened by the overwhelming length of some of the topics and leave without contributing to any of them. Therefore, here is my suggestion: we put each ''discussion'' ''(not'' its corresponding header) into an "extended content" box using <nowiki>{{collapse top}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{collapse bottom}}</nowiki>. Then under the header, but ''not in the "extended content" box,'' we add a short, one to three sentence summary of what the OP is saying (and perhaps even more things, like what has been discussed so far). I've created a mockup with two discussions [[User:Bigpuppy/CPND Mockup|here]].
  
Since blog.scratch.mit.edu is no more, are they still allowed as References? I found one in the [[Scratch Design Studio]] article and decided to post this.
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I think that this way, when folks go to [[S:CPND]], they can easily find a discussion they'd like to contribute to (without being scared away quickly). Then, when they find a discussion they're interested in, they can un-collapse the box and read the replies so that they can give their opinion. They won't be scared away because they didn't see ''tons'' of long discussions at the same time, they just saw short suggestions. Then they see ''one'' long discussion after they un-collapse the box — the one they're interested in.
  
<scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 00:05, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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What do you think?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:03, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
:I think it would still be allowed, since it is still a good reference. The link might need to be changed to the archived page on [http://web.archive.org Internet Archive] though.<scratchsig>Mrcomputer1</scratchsig> 06:27, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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:+1 :-) {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
:We have a {{t|dead link}} template you can add just after the reference if you even can't find any Internet Archive pages as well - this signifies that the reference was once there, but no more.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:46, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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::I have the same opinion with Bigpuppy, also I have a suggestion: We can archive some of the Not Done topics, because they are not discussed actively and some of them outdated.[[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not_Done#Not Done doesn't get enough attention|It's still a big problem.]]<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 20:09, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::Hmm, I like the idea but looking at your mockup I'm not sure how well it'd work in practice. I feel like it might be a better idea to let the OP(ost) of each topic be the summary, and rather collapse away all of the subsequent discussion so that it's easier to scroll past. If the OP(ost) itself is really long, then I suppose a manual summary might be in order, but unless the OP(oster) is inactive then it might be a good idea to let them do the summarizing themselves to best capture the essence of the idea. Does that make sense?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:37, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::Yeah, I definitely see what you're saying. What defines "really long" though? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:20, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Whichever human happens to be making the collapsing edit - there doesn't need to be a boundary, just leave it up to the judgement of whoever is doing the moving :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::::'''+1''', the mockup looks great! {{e|:D}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 20:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}To clarify, do you agree with Ken's idea as well, TenType? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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:Yes, I think the OP should be part the summary except in situations when its long. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:45, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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::<small>that was fast</small>
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::Okay, thanks for clarifying. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
  
== Scratch Team Members ==
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== Why is the interwiki link for the Test-Scratch Wiki the language code for Twi? ==
  
I looked at the credits on the [[Scratch Team]] article and found [https://scratch.mit.edu/credits this link]. I opened all of the users mentioned in the credits and discovered that some of the Scratch Team members were excluded from the wiki page. If anyone knows anything about these ST Members, please tell me so I can add them to the page.
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The interwiki code for the Test Wiki is 'tw', and the 'in Other Languages' section of the homepage says 'Twi', again with a link to the Test Scratch Wiki.
  
Missing confirmed Scratch Team Members (people with the "Scratch Team" tag):
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On it, there is no Test-Wiki for Twi, which seems to be an African language spoken in Ghana. If there is no Test-Wiki for Twi, why does the Interwiki link to the Test-Wiki use its language code? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 09:22, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/wheelsonfire/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/KayOh/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/rmiel/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/labdalla/]
 
  
Other important users mentioned in the credits:
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:Actually, I saw it before in Wikipedia's ISO 639-3 language codes list a week ago, and I was going to say that. I think this code designed from  '''T'''est Scratch '''Wi'''ki. However, I think that it's not a big problem for now. <scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 11:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/jaleesa/]
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::<code>test</code> is not an inter-''language'' code, so it's impossible to link to (say) the Test wiki CP using <code><nowiki>[[test:Test-Scratch-Wiki talk:Community Portal]]</nowiki></code> the same way we can for real languages. However, <code>tw:</code> happens to be a real language, whose language code is recognized as an inter-language code, whose language code can nicely stand for "test wiki", and whose language name can be repurposed to mean '''t'''est '''wi'''ki. If we ever do have a wiki in the actual Twi language, then things will have to change; but for now, we use "Twi" as a means of treating "test" as an inter-language link rather than inter-wiki.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:33, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/shaanmasala/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/leoburd/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/taranir/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/lilyland/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/theladynico/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/pizzafordessert/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/khanning/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/mwikali/]
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/me_win/] - Moderator of the Scratch Twitter Account
 
*[#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/lob12/] - Runs the Scratch Foundation
 
  
I may have missed a few because my tabs are really unorganised.
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== Featured Image Suggestions? ==
Double check [https://scratch.mit.edu/credits here]
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{{not done}}
 
 
<scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 00:20, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:I've completely revamped the [[Scratch Team#Members]] part to match the new credits page. If you know which users in your "other important users" bit correspond to which names in the Members section, please don't hesitate to add them. Otherwise, {{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
::OK cool! <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 15:56, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hey, folks! Does anyone have any suggestions for featured images for the next time we update them? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
:::I noticed this before, but the only one I added was stymphalianbirb, and I didn't know who she was. Apparently, this was because the Credits didn't link to their user profiles before now. {{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 23:51, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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:How about this?
::::Actually, linking to ST profiles is a new feature, not an old bug - it was added in [https://github.com/LLK/scratch-www/pull/2220 this pull], because of (or maybe unrelated to, I don't actually know) [[topic:307392|this topic]] of mine. The point is, it links now, so I was able to use that. In fact, quick JS snippet for future updating:
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:[[File:Color adjuster.png]]<br/><scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 20:45, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
<syntaxhighlight lang="js">var res = ''
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::I like that one! How about this one?
for (var child of $('#view > div > div.content > div.people > ul').children) {
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::[[File:Scratch 3.0 Sound Recorder.png|330px]]
    res += '* ' + child.children[1].innerText + ' ([' + child.children[0].children[0].href + ' ' + child.children[0].children[0].href.slice(30, -1) + '])\n';
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::If we ''do'' choose both of these, though, we should choose something not from the editor for the third one. This will provide some variety.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
}
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:::Didn't the sound recorder picture already get featured? It has the category [[:Category:Featured Articles/Images]]. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
console.log(res)</syntaxhighlight>
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::::I didn't notice that, lol. I wonder why it doesn't have the {{t|Featured}} template then?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:56, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
::::Just copy and paste into the console.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::::¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe it was forgotten or something {{e|:P}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:58, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Well, now it does. {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}How about this one?<br/>[[File:Welcoming Committee.png]]<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:11, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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:Looks good! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 03:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
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::Hey, maybe this as well? [[File:Pen_stats_change.png]]{{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 06:34, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::I like that one!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
  
== Change the Featured Studio Template ==
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== What are... ==
{{done}}
 
  
Should we change the template so that the link is in the name instead of a reference? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 03:27, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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...common.js pages for? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 08:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:I don't think that it would need that, it would be better to keep the link separate to match the rest of the Wiki <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 05:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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:[[Special:MyPage/common.js|Your common.js file]] is a {{wp|JavaScript}} file that will run on all pages, no matter what skin you're using - but only for you. It's basically a Wiki-specific alternative to userscripts that MediaWiki supports natively.
::{{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:56, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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:[[Special:MyPage/common.css|Your common.css file]] is a {{wp|CSS}} file that likewise applies to all pages you visit on all skins, only for you.
:::Thanks! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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:Changing "common" to the name of a skin, e.g. "scratchwikiskin2" will make it only apply to all pages when you are viewing them in that skin.
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:There are also [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] and [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] files (as well as their skin-specific equivalents) that run on all pages for all users. These can only be edited by admins.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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::Oh, so it's a customizable... Wiki theme, right? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 13:20, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::Not really... it's basically a script in {{wp|JavaScript}} that runs on every page you visit. To "customize" your Wiki theme, it would be easier to do it in [[Special:MyPage/common.css|Your common.css file]] {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::That means it can be used for things such as detecting stuff like viruses, right? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 18:46, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|4}}
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No because they are applying for this website. Also, every user can customize and every user can add pop-ups, warnings when they logged in but nobody cannot detect viruses with these files. For example, [[fr:Scratch_Wiki_Accueil|there is a pop-up]] made with JavaScript file in right bottom.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
  
== Wiki Appearance ==
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== Suggestion: Add a "sandbox" option in the user pull-down on the header ==
  
The Scratch Wiki site appearance should be updated to match Scratch 3.0's update of some aspects of the Scratch Website. How about like adding something like Bootstrap to make it look nicer? <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 04:58, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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My suggestion is above {{-}} that's pretty much it. When you click on your username, you would see your username, "Talk," "Preferences," "Watchlist," "Contributions," "Log out," and "Sandbox" thrown somewhere in there. "Sandbox" would direct you to your personal sandbox, not the public sandbox. If the user hasn't created their sandbox, it would direct them to the page to create it.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:What are you talking about? The current skin was specifically designed to match the 3.0 styles. (I should know, I designed it!) If you mean the content part, sidebar etc those are wiki features and don't fit into the Scratch style of content. {{done|Already done}}
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:Sounds like a cool feature. +1! {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 17:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:<small>As for Bootstrap: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/youtube/umDr0mPuyQc</small>{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:51, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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::I think it's a good idea, but I think we can create a disambiguation page rather than direct to the personal sandbox. However, +1!<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 18:14, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
::Oh lol I meant the sidebar and buttons and boxes and stuff like that. <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 03:55, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::Wikipedia has this, but this is actually harder to implement than you might think - the skin does not hardcode the user dropdown links, they are generated by MediaWiki itself. Adding the sandbox link would require a hook somewhere in LocalSettings.php and that might mess up some rhythms. There could be a link in the For Editors box, though! [[Special:MyPage/Sandbox]] is a handy link. What say y'all?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 18:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::Ah, I see. I think that's a good alternative then! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:48, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Good idea! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 18:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|5}}
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+1!{{e|:)}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
  
== New Page ==
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== sooo idk if this is off-topic ==
  
I want to create a page on the GPIO Scratch 1.4 extension for the Raspberry Pi, but I don't know if it is useful and I don't really have much time to do it. Can some people tell me if they use GPIO or even Scratch 1.4 on Raspberry Pi? Thanks! <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 05:04, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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but lookie here alright I constantly go active and off-topic on the Scratch Wiki depending on my mood, but I still help a lot on the Scratch discussion forums in the meantime. is this an issue?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 18:21, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
:Scratch 1.4 on RPi for me: no, I use my RPi as a server. And because there's Scratch 2.0 on Pis now I doubt anyone will ever use it. If you see someone asking around on the forums about the GPIO extension, then it may be time to consider it, but before that it's not worth it. I don't think there's even much to say about it besides the fact that you can interact with GPIO devices...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:03, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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:Why would it be?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 18:23, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
::Ok, I was just going to make a mini tutorial on how to use it and how it works. I have 2 Raspberry Pis (A+ and 3B+) so I work with Scratch 2.0 and 1.4. Thanks for responding! <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig>
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:You are not under any obligation to stay active - if you need to take a break from Wiki editing, do. Edit when you feel like it. We don't block people or anything for being inactive.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 18:33, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
  
== Embed projects ==
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== Studio Articles ==
  
Embedding has been removed in Scratch 3.0, so for the [[How to Embed a Project]] page, can someone rename it to [[How to Embed a Project (Scratch 2.0)]]? <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 05:35, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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Hi! I was wondering if people can write articles on studios on the Scratch Wiki. The guidelines say if you are not allowed to advertise users or user-generated content. Does this apply to studios? I don't think it does because a Wikian wrote an article about the Scratch Design Studio. It merely explains what the SDC (Scratch Design Studio) is. So my question is can you write an article about a certain studio? Without advertising it of course, but merely explaining what the studio is and its purpose. I don't think I'll be writing any studio articles anytime soon but an answer would be much appreciated. If you would like to answer me on my talk page the link is [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/User_talk:J_Coder26 here] <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 21:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26
:[[S:STYLE#no-link-underscores|Please don't use underscores in links!]]
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:Articles about user-generated content (whether projects, studios, or anything else) are not allowed. The Scratch Design Studio is not user-generated content as it was created by the Scratch Team.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:Also, embedding hasn't been removed! https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/168960058/embed/
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::That said, [[S:NOSP|there are some exceptions]].<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
:It's only that it doesn't work right now (the embed link works, but the actual embedding part breaks). That's something already in progress on GitHub. We don't need to worry about it.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:46, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::What about the Scratch Welcoming Committee? Or is that an exception? <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 21:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26
::Oh wow that's nice to know! Thanks! <scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 03:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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::::The Scratch Welcoming Committee is also an official Scratch Team studio, so it is not user-generated content. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Really? I didn't know that. I thought it was user generated but had a few ST members as managers. I don't really pay much attention to studios. <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 21:45, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26
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::::::Hi, please remember to indent properly - you can find a guide for indenting on [[S:WELCOME|the Welcome tutorial]] or [[Help:Talk Pages]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:29, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  
== Compliment Tuesday! January 15{{th}}, 2019 ==
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== Please help me ==
  
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'''Hello''' I am mastercoder4life. I am a new wikian and didn't understand the welcoming pages too well. Could someone please tell me how to insert a link? <scratchsig>Mastercoder4life</scratchsig> 23:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
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:Hello, Mastercoder4life! Welcome to the Scratch Wiki! {{e|:)}}
  
{{Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday/archive 017}}
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:On the wiki we have two types of links {{-}} '''internal links''' and '''external links.''' You use internal links when you're linking to a page on the Scratch Wiki, Scratch, or Wikipedia. You use external links to link to any other sites.
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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:To make an internal link, you use this syntax: <code><nowiki>[[NAME OF PAGE|LINK TEXT, IF APPLICABLE]]</nowiki></code> For example, if you wanted to link to the page about the Scratch Team, you'd do this: <code><nowiki>[[Scratch Team]]</nowiki></code> That would make this: [[Scratch Team]] Or you could do this: <code><nowiki>[[Scratch Team|ST]]</nowiki></code> That would make this: [[Scratch Team|ST]]
  
The next CT is January 21{{th}}. See you then!
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:You make an external link with this syntax: <code><nowiki>[URL LINKTEXT]</nowiki></code> For example, if you wanted to link to example.com, you could do this: <code><nowiki>[https://example.com/ Example]</nowiki></code> And that would make this: [https://example.com/ Example]
  
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:30, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
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:For more information, visit [[Help:Links]].
:{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:30, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::Why is it ''not done''? Isn't it done? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 00:32, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::The most recent CT post is marked as Not Done, so that it remains even when archiving - i.e. there is always at least one CT post on the CP, even after an archive.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:19, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Suggestions for AbuseFilter ==
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:Again, welcome to the Scratch Wiki! We're happy to have you here! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 23:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
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::thanks so much!<scratchsig>Mastercoder4life</scratchsig> 00:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::In the future please indent your replies, one more colon before each reply. I fixed your last comment for you, but in the future please indent. Look at the syntax for this conversation to see what I'm talking about, and for more information see [[Help:Welcome/4#Indenting]]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 00:21, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::Hi mastercoder4life. To learn how to link click [[Help:Welcome/2|here]]. Thank you for your contributions to the wiki : ) <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 02:09, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
  
I would like AbuseFilter to prevent:
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== Privacy policy in English? ==
* Signatures being in mainspace articles
 
* Userspace being in categories
 
<scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 17:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:I believe that [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AbuseFilter Abuse Filter] is a mw extension. You would have to consult mw if you want it changed. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:32, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::You don't have to consult media wiki to have it changed! You (Bureaucrats)(as far as I know only they can change it on the sw) can add filters to it to make it custom to your need.
 
::This seem like they could be helpful, though as for the second one there may be a few categories that set it off mainly a few of the [[:Category:Hidden categories]] and [[:Category:Open User Pages]]. Though, it might not be necessary to add these because I have never seen those things happen (expect for the categories mentioned above). Have you seen it happen before?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 21:25, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
 
<pre>(action in ["edit","submit"]) &
 
(article_namespace == 0) &
 
(contains_any(new_wikitext,"<scratchsig>","/sig","/Sig"))</pre>
 
<pre>(
 
(action in ["edit","submit"]) &
 
(article_namespace == 2) &
 
(contains_any(new_wikitext,"[[category:","[[Category:")) &
 
(!(user_groups contains "sysop"))
 
)</pre>
 
:::Here you are {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 00:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::@apple your post broke, I fixed it
 
::::Before adding either of these, are there any legitimate reasons for putting signatures in mainspace or for adding userpages to categories?
 
::::Off the top of my head I can't think why signatures would go in ''main''space (they do go in subject pages, but not specifically mainspace), so I'd probably do that, but then there's also the problem of figuring out what's actually a signature. But are there any pages that need signatures (even as example sigs)?
 
::::Adding userpages to categories is harder. That filter apple posted only detects manual categories, but it doesn't work for templates that add categories. There's really no good way of knowing when a page is put into a category without using a lot of magic. Besides, the rare cases that people decide to categorize their userpages will be walked all over by anyone who pays attention to RC anyway, so I don't think it's worth adding a filter for.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:37, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::One legitimate reason I can think of to add a template with a category in userspace is administrative templates, such as {{t|delete}}.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:37, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::That's not a manual category, which is all that any abuse filter would be able to detect... is there any legitimate use for putting a <code><nowiki>[[Category:Thing]]</nowiki></code> in any page?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:44, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== How do you use .js and .css subpages? ==
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The "privacy policy" link at the bottom of the page is in German. Is there one in English?<scratchsig>Donotforgetmycode</scratchsig> 08:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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:No, it's discussed in the past, and admins don't want to change it because of the laws and problems about the translation. See also [[Scratch_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Suggestion:_Mention_that_the_Privacy_Policy_and_Disclaimers_are_in_German|to here.]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 08:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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::Oh, OK. I still don't understand why it's dangerous to translate it.<scratchsig>Donotforgetmycode</scratchsig> 17:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::You don't speak a foreign language then; some things are '''''very''' tough'' to translate. One single error in translation could basically destroy this site. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 18:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  
Super confused... can you edit the .css and .js subpages in CSS or JS? How do you incorporate the CSS and JS into a page? How can you use .js files? Would you have to link the files to ex: your userpage for it to work? Plz help :anyone who has these or knows how to use them<scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 02:07, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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== macOS drops support for Scratch 1.4 on versions 10.14 and 10.15 ==
:{{user|jakel181|name}} helped me understand but it was still a little confusing. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface#Customizing_the_interface This] should help. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:23, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Scratch Wiki Server and Edit Conflict Problem==
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Several replies in [[topic:406141|this forum topic]] say that macOS 10.14 and 10.15 drop support for 32-bit apps, including [[Scratch 1.4]] and obviously other 1.x versions. The end of support for 32 bit apps on 10.15 is mentioned on Apple Inc's website [https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208436 here].
  
Internet on the Scratch Wiki has been extremely slow for me for a few days. I'm on Windows 10, and Chrome, Firefox, and Edge are all slow. Because the internet is so slow, it started to load, but then I ended it because I had to do something else. The second time it fully saved, but I had an edit conflict with myself, maybe because the other save went far enough into the process that it actually succeeded. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 16:44, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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Where in this wiki should that information be put? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 11:56, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
:Yes, everything has been really sloooooow <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:38, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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:Of course, the Scratch 1.x pages. <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 12:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
:: I've also experienced errors on the Scratch Wiki today. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 18:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Hi everyone. This seems to be a problem experienced across our entire user base, not necessarily isolated to one or two users. We are aware of the issue and are actively working to fix this. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 19:35, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Yes, the community portal never loaded either until now (I have been trying for 2 days)<scratchsig>Jedibrine</scratchsig> 00:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::We feel like the connectivity should definitely be improving in the next couple of days. Please let us know if there are still issues. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 17:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::It has been slower than before. {{e|:(}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 16:54, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::::I found that disabling my adblocker fixes the problem. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:05, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::::We have taken concrete steps to address the issue. Thank you for your continued patience. :) <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:44, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|8}}
 
It has been a lot quicker now! {{e|:D}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 20:52, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:We just downgraded the PHP version to 7.1 from 7.2 since PHP 7.2 is known to cause unnecessary load on webservers. This shouldn't impact functionality since MediaWiki still supports PHP 7.1. Please let us know if any problems come up (or if this results in better performance for everyone).<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 21:08, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::@jvvg: The Extensions like BlockPlugin and also Accounting seem not to work anymore in DE and EN, but work in HU and FR...frodewin changend "localsettings.php" at the HU sysopsite by just outcomenting the Extentions and changed it back accidentaly at the same time you downgraded PHP. Ken introduced "commonsettings.php" as a shared part of "localsettings.php" at EN and DE about a wee ago, but not in FR and HU...so I suppose frodewins test with the HU-"localsettings.php" had no influence, but your downgrade in combination with Kens "commonsettings.php" was the reason that the Extension don't work properly at the moment...strange...or it's just because EN and DE use versions of the Extentions that don't work with PHP 7.1 whereas HU and FR do work with 7.1...{{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 21:43, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Ad problems: The ScratchBlocks Plugin is not working for English and German wikis. <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 21:47, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::But as a result we now know that the Extentions that don't work at the moment (because of PHP7.1 ?) have been responsible for the slowness oth the Wikis ;-) {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 22:10, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== April Fools Stuff ==
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== New Scratch Wiki Logo? ==
{{done}}
 
  
So guys, how do you find your April Fools page?
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Hi!
<scratchsig>Dilek10</scratchsig> 09:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
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I think that because the main page of the Scratch Wiki and the scratchblocks have the new 3.0 style, why not the logo? I think that the Scratch Wiki logo needs an update. It has the old 2.0 style, and 2.0 is long gone. Please tell me your thoughts on this!
:Here's yours: [[Scratch Wiki:April Fools/User:Dilek10]]. You'll also need to add {{t|April Fools}} to the top of your userpage.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:50, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 00:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks a lot! <scratchsig>Dilek10</scratchsig> 09:54, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
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:...? The Wiki logo currently uses the 3.0 version of the Scratch logo for the word "Scratch". Keep in mind that the [[Scratch Website]] had parts in 3.0 styling long before 3.0 came out.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:28, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
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::Oh, never mind, I see the difference now. Still, there's no need for a new logo - this one works perfectly well and isn't completely outdated (like the old favicon was).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:51, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
  
== Scratch Blocks Bug ==
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== How to find user rank? ==
  
I don't know if it is just me but the scratch blocks doesn't render anymore. I tried refreshing cache too. Could it be because of PHP version? Here is an example:
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I joined the wiki nineteen days ago but I do not know my user rank (what is that called exactly?). How do I find it?
<sb>move (10) steps</sb> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 02:53, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>R4356th</scratchsig> 17:43, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
:We're looking into it. It's possible it's related to the PHP version change, but we're not sure yet. We will keep you posted.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 03:32, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
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:Hello, R4356th. If you go into [[Special:Preferences|your preferences]], it will show all of the user groups you are in (under "Basic information"). For a list of possible user groups and the rights that come with them, view [[Special:ListGroupRights|this list]]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
::I have fixed it. The problem actually had nothing to do with the PHP version change, it was because the Wiki plugin depends on an external script that moved to a new URL.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 03:46, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
 

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Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,150edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Done.
Updated the list as the author.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,150edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Updated!
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,150edit 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Logging server faults

No Never Done

Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Time Errors Details/Comments
8 August 2018 400 Bad Request
503 Service Unavailable
I was editing User:Kenny2scratch/common.js, and when I clicked "save page" I hit a "400 Bad Request" error. I pressed the browser "back" button (thanks Chrome for caching form data), and clicked "save page" again, and I encountered "503 Service Unavailable". I went back again, resubmitted, and the edit went through.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
10:26 AM, 3 September 2018 (GMT) Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties I clicked on random page
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 09:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
5:27 PM, 3 September 2018 (HKT) "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties" I was literally attempting to edit this section. When I clicked the "edit" link, it brought me to a page that said:

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
(Cannot access the database)


You can try searching Google in the meantime.
Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.


Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

10:07-11:20 PM, 8 September 2018 (HKT) Major outage across all wikis Multiple screenshots: [1][2][3][4]this is the most useful error[5][6][7][8][9][10]

Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

10:44 AM, 2 October 2018 (GMT) 508 Resource Limit Reached Edit a user's talk page
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 09:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
4:40 AM, 2 January 2019 (CST) 508 Resource Limit Reached Trying to create a redirect page.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
4:58 PM, 8:02 PM, 10:22 PM, 10:25 PM @ 3 January 2019 (HKT); 12:46 AM @ 4 January 2019 (HKT) 508 Resource Limit Reached


503 Service Unavailable
File upload fail

Frequent outages across all wikis. Most likely caused by traffic spike from 3.0.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
9:12 AM, 4 January 2019 (CST)
9:17 AM, 4 January 2019 (EST)
"Service Unavailable Error [...]
503 Service Unavailable Error"
"508 Resource Limit Reached"
Trying to enter my talk, kept refreshing until worked, came to CP to log fault. Errors repeated until worked.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
15:02:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC) Fatal exception of type DBQueryError I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
9:02 AM, 7 February 2019 (CST) 508 Resource Limit Reached Trying to go to How to Make a Typewriter Effect.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
4:50 AM, 25 May 2019 (UTC) HTTP error: error Clicked the Show preview button while editing User:TenType/Header, when it did not preview and received the error. Clicking the button again resolved the issue.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
11:00 PM, 24 June 2019 (UTC) "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties." Literally attempted to access en.scratch-wiki.info and a few other pages, when I received this:

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
(Cannot access the database)


You can try searching via Google in the meantime.
Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.

Waited for like 10 minutes while reloading and the error finally cleared.
TenType (talk | contribs) 07:17, 25 June 2019 (HKT)

08:25, 22 January 2020 (EST) "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties." Tried to navigate to my userpage from another article, and got the error.
-- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,418)  Scratch  Directory 
13:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
13:26, 2nd April 2020 (UTC) 2020-04-02 13:26:04: Fatal exception of type DBQueryError Pressed the edit box on the wiki sandbox.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 1,937 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 13:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Sometime around 22:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC) "MediaWiki internal error. Exception caught inside exception handler. [...]" Clicked on the Recent Changes link on the sidebar, screenshot here
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
22:42, 2 April 2020 (UTC) "MediaWiki internal error. Original exception: [...]" Was accepting an account, screenshot here
TenType (talk | contribs) 22:51, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
18:43, 10 April 2020 (UTC) "Forbidden

You don't have permission to access this resource.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request. "

Whenever you put a template (e.g. {{delete}}) in the search bar and press enter.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  18:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
22:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC) 503 Service Unavailable Was patrolling Recent Changes, screenshot here
TenType (talk | contribs) 23:10, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
12:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC) Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Pressed the Recent Changes link in Navigation. Screenshot here
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 12:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Could we have a dedicated page to that?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,994)) 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Nah, just here is fine.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
No Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. (archives)
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Not too many right now.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
No Never done! Server faults will always come.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,994)) 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Do we not have this?
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).
Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
There are kinda a lot of faults now, I believe we should create another page for it.

VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  16:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
I mean, we could always just add /Server_Faults as the path and switch this there. It wouldn't be that big of a hassle, you can just copy and paste it. And there are more and more coming anyways, so it's not oing to be too long before it gets very long.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
This is so long that it's now a hassle for scrolling through CP. I think we should definitely create another page for it; maybe link to it from the CP?
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch 

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I agree with VFDan. We could also just collapse it, although that would not stop it from making the CP loading time longer.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

List of deleted pages

No Not done

(Brought up here after discussion here.)

So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:

  • Mathfreak231's, which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
  • Mine, which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
  • Jammum's Deleted Pages, which are more recent than either of the above
  • Jammum's All Deleted Pages, which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)

I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a Scratch Wiki Project.

Advantages
  • More organized
  • One place for all
  • Can be updated by anyone
Disadvantages
None I can think of off the top of my head

Thoughts? Shall we do it?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
+1 :)
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
I think the page will not be notable enough to go there.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a Scratch Wiki Project. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I say aye.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Are we going to do this?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 1,937 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Okay, I just created a page called User:TenType/Deleted Files, was scrolling through the Community Portal, and found this discussion. :/
Maybe this page could contain pages only and not files? (I really spent a lot of time and effort onto my deleted files page) Anyways, still waiting for a response on whether or not this project will be started.
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Why not? It sounds like a great idea; let's get started. How do you guys find deleted pages anyway (just wondering)?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 15:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
Why hasn't this happened yet? :P

VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  16:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Welcome templates

Yes Done

A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:

That's a lot of welcomes.PNG

10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?

To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.

I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea :) I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can :D?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
It has happened again...
-- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,418)  Scratch  Directory 
20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different??
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Can't we make a User_talk:ACCEPTEDUSER/Welcomes page?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,994)) 20:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
That doesn't actually cause a ping tho...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
We could make it ping though if there is someone willing to mess with the code...
Smileycreations15 Profile Icon.png smileycreations15 (talk | contribs) 11:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
I was just scrolling through the CP, and this caught my eye. Great idea, I definitely think this needs to be considered. I understand that people are just trying to be kind by sending the welcome messages, but it would almost be like a horror film for the person who owns the account. I think 4-5 welcome templates are enough, but I think there needs to be a break between even those. Getting 4-5 welcomes in a couple of seconds is also not the best of ideas.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 17:55, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
We should ask new users for their opinion on this right after they get the welcomes.
TenType (talk | contribs) 00:06, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
I think 4-5 is a good limit. I personally liked getting welcomes, but I only got 3 of them.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 14:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
I'm a fairly new user, and I got 4 welcomes. It seemed fine for me, so I agree that 4-5 sounds like a good limit.
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 01:23, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────How about one or two users post a template, or we just use the automatic one at the top, and then people below can put encouraging words (not large templates) followed by a sig? This would not be too much for the user, but still shows lots of people are there to support them!
-- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,418)  Scratch  Directory 
15:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

Maybe we can create a welcome template, and a bot automatically adds it for every new user. Any user edit it (just like an article). Maybe there could be in it for all the users that contributed.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:21, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Please fix your signature!
No, the point of each user having their own welcome template is for them to be specific to the user welcoming - a different message for each one. If they just wanted to add their name to a stock welcome they could reply to the {{welcome}} message added by default. However, 10 users posting personalized welcomes is a lot of different welcomes to read - which is why it needs limiting.
Seems like 4-5 is the limit we've agreed on; for the sake of looseness, the limit is now 5 welcome messages at most on any new user's talk page (not including the {{welcome}} message; does not apply to users created before this decision).
@Nambaseking01: Limiting the rate of welcomes is a separate topic that should be proposed separately.
This topic is now Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Block Problems

No Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken
Today I started to finish up the script for How to Evaluate an Expression, and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else — it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in Show preview mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in this forum topic?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this?
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
You can use this page.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...
@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks!
TenType (talk | contribs) 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Wait, is it possible to convert forum scratchblocks to wiki scratchblocks????
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  03:20, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
<scratchblocks>define scratch</scratchblocks>

It will give:

define scratch

See also: Block Plugin
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 20:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

New Featured Images

Yes Done

Hey! Soon, on August 12th, it'll have been a month since we updated the Featured Images yet. This time, I don't want to do them late like I have in the past, so does anyone have any suggestions? :D
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

A photo of somewhere tropical.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
I don't understand - is this a joke (if it isn't, I'm not trying to offend; simply trying to understand)? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
It is.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
The _:))_ emoji. Looks nice and funny.
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 01:23, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
You mean literally feature the :) picture? I guess that works LOL
I'd suggest File:Statistic Rollover Info.png because it looks cool and has a random interesting piece of info :)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:42, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
It's been August 12th, does that mean this discussion is now for the next featured image change? Or can this be archived?
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 18:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

Giving Credit on the Wiki

Yes Done I think that we should make a template for credit like this:

Remix notice 3.0.png Credit to Scratch-Coding for this template.

. It would be helpful. We could use the remix button image instead of the one I have.
Scratch-CodingProfilePic.png Scratch-Coding (Talk |Scratch |(391 edits) 00:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

When and where will it be used?
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,150edit 01:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
What would you use this for, and why? The wiki is a collaboration and we all own a part of it. No one owns a article unless they created it on there userspace where they can so whatever they want with it.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  01:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Templates are mainly created for mainspace Wiki articles — when and why would this be needed?
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
It would be used on userspaces, giving credit for a image, and giving credit for an example.
Scratch-Coding (talk | contribs) 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
You can use it on your userspace but I don't think it's necessary. Btw: What did you do to your signature? It's broken.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
This wouldn't be that beneficial to the Wiki, especially if it is mostly used on userspace. I still disagree.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Who would use it?
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't think this is necessary. If you need to credit someone you don't need a template. Furthermore, you wouldn't need to credit anyone on mainspace, this is collaborative and we don't get/need credit for what we write here.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Giving credit is not needed in mainspace and can be done manually:

Remix notice 3.0.png Credit to Scratch-Coding for this template.
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
23:41, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Let's go ahead and consider this Yes Done.
-- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,418)  Scratch  Directory 
17:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Tinkercad Codeblocks

Tinkercad has a new feature called Codeblocks that looks similar to Scratch. It has hat blocks and variables. I think this could have a page on this wiki.
LiamSapp123 (talk | contribs) 19:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Does it have a specific connection to Scratch in particular though? We don't have a page on Blockly, even though it's a similar concept (and even though 3.0 has Blockly code in it).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
Maybe we should have one about Blockly
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:31, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
I agree that we should make one on Blockly.
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 01:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
No Further discussion needed
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:11, 3 March 2020 (UTC)

What happened to link previews?

No Not done They don't seem to be showing up for me at all anymore. Anybody else?
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
02:44, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Same here. Did someone turn it off?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Also not getting previews (or at least when I tried it on Image Hosting, linked above). I'll ping jvvg (since he was the one who enabled them).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Any reply from jvvg yet?
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
01:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Have you found any information on this yet, anybody?
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
23:22, 15 December 2019 (UTC)

Scratch program image

No Not done
The image showing the scratch program should be 3.0, not 2.0, right?
Mohie (talk | contribs)

Not necessarily, we use the 2.0 version for historical references. So, we should have to images for this. One for 3.0, and one for 2.0.
Also, could you link to what you're talking about, please? It would be so much easier for someone to know what you were talking about easily.
-unsigned comment by 12944qwerty (talk | contribs)
He meant the picture of the Scratch program shown in Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents needs to be updated to 3.0. Could an admin do this?
TenType (talk | contribs) 23:25, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
Okay... So is there going to be another section for 3.0, or is 2.0 going to be merged with 3.0?
And also, TenType is correct. I do mean the SW TOC.


Mohie (talk | contribs) 16:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki Adventure

No Not done

On Wikipedia, there is an option for new Wikians to complete the Wikipedia Adventure. This teaches them skills and covers all the basics of using Wikipedia. I think it'd be a good idea to create a Scratch Wiki Adventure of our own to teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki. This would include editing tips, rules, etiquette, etc. I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on this idea and/or if anyone would like to work with me on creating this.
54329 (talk | contribs) 17:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

+1 :D
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
I hope you're prepared to put in the amount of work involved, because The Wikipedia Adventure is really involved (I've done it once before) and a lot of stuff has to be created for it to work. I like the idea, but I don't know if anyone here has the follow-through to actually focus on a project like this that could take a week or more to make.
If you think you can commit yourself (and furthermore get others to commit themselves) you can make a Scratch Wiki Project of it. Good luck!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Woohoo; we got bureaucratic approval! I think we can do it (maybe not as well as the Wikipedia Adventure, but still good). I'll start thinkin' up some basic ideas to start us off. If anyone is interested in working with me on this, please let me know on my talk page. :)
54329 (talk | contribs) 05:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Isn’t this going to be a duplicate of the welcome tutorial?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 1,937 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:41, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
No, the Wikipedia Adventure is really involved and more interactive.
TenType (talk | contribs) 06:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
Adding on, when I did it, it felt a lot more like a game/activity than a guidebook. It allows the user to actually collaborate, talk to people and create/edit a page all in a sandbox setting. It helped me learn the basics of Wikipedia far more than a guide could (probably because I was really interested in it and getting those shiny badges was nice).
54329 (talk | contribs) 06:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

SWP 003 - Scratch Wiki Adventure
DescriptionStatusOwnerStartedLinks
Create the Scratch Wiki Adventure "game" to help teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki in a fun, interactive setting.No Not done
  • Owner: 54329
  • Assigned:
    • TenType
    • 12944qwerty
    • Apple502j
    • Scratch-Coding
    • Jammum
    • Dominic305
    • JJBullet
    • Kenny2scratch
    • Nambaseking01
    • GrahamSH
11/21/2019Project results
Project page
Project discussion


Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

I can help some tech stuff maybe?
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,150edit 17:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
I can help too!
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
I want to help too, so should I add myself or should 54329 do it as he's the owner?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  01:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
In reply to both of you: Thanks for offering to help out! I'll add both of your names to the list. For future people that wish to help: feel free to just add your name under the "Assigned" section.
54329 (talk | contribs) 05:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
I just took a quick glance at the Wikipedia Adventure, and that looks cool! I created a very different page a while ago with the same goal of educating New Wikians using a sort of quest system - you can check it out at User:Bigpuppy/Quests. :) It seems like this would be very different than that, though. Cool-cat-emoji.png Good idea!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────That's super cool that you made a quests page. This will be semi-similar. Feel free to stop by if you have any ideas for it. wink wink
54329 (talk | contribs) 08:03, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Moving Plural page titles to singular

Yes Done On the wiki, there are many page titles like "Blocks" and "Numbers". This makes it confusing to users and editors, as well as links. "[[Block]]s makes a link to singular that appears plural, but there is no equivalent for singular-appearing plural-leading links.

This is a big change in the Wiki, so further discussion will be needed to manage the moves.
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
00:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

Could we start a Scratch Wiki Project? I  definitely think we should keep the pages consistently singular.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 02:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Singular page titles would seem strange, since the plural describes a general thing, there is not only one. Also, I fixed a spelling mistake.
-unsigned comment by Congyingzhou (talk | contribs)
Many page titles cannot be made into plural form. Having both plural and singular forms is confusing and creates other problems. Singular page titles are also easier to work with, as I said in my first post. Also, remember to not change other users' posts without permission.
Should I put {{move}} on the plural pages?
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
00:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
I'll put the template on as soon as possible (on the bottom)
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
03:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
Next time, don't add {{move}} to all of them; either move them all right away or wait. It makes a bunch of edits in Recent Changes which will all need to be undone when the final decision is decided.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:02, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
So should we move them or not, and how will we do it? We will also need to fix many links and redirects.
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
00:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
Or should we just mark the pages and get a bot to move the, fix all the redirects and links, and change any other issues?
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── So should we move any of this pages? It's been over 2 months now.
CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
21:31, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

I guess it depends on context
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,994)) 21:26, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

2.0 Image Updating

A lot of images here need updating to 3.0. For example, the editor in the TOC, many Scratch Cats, etc. When will this be done?
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 10:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

I've asked an admin to update the TOC image. Not sure about the other ones.
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 16:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
There's not a set time when this will be done. It will be done gradually. Any time you see an image that needs updated, feel free to update it (but be sure to compress, crop, etc. the file).
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
01:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! January 30th, 2020

Welcome to the 25th Thankful Thursday! January 30th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
The Scratch Wiki Adventure Team
  • I was amazed when seeing the discussion about this at the CP! Good luck on making it, team - you'll do a fantastic job!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:35, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs)
  • Since the creation of your account, each time I look through the recent changes, I almost always see your name there. You're constantly making contributions to various pages improving the Scratch Wiki. Thank you for all of your efforts and help!
    54329 (talk | contribs) 20:52, 2 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Wow, dude! That's an amount of edits!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 17:18, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your impressive effort to clean up every corner of the wiki and providing impetus to help with the same.
    Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 03:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Groko13 (talk | contribs)
  • You good? You joined after me and seem to be rocking this place up! Fantastic job, my friend, you are doing some awesome contributions to the Scratch Wiki already!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 20:41, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)
  • You just became an EW, like, three months ago and you are already rocking up the Scratch Wiki! I can already see the amount of people being accepted into the SW as a contributor increasing! That's a big inspiration for me to become an EW one day ;)
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
  • You always make sure the wiki is running nicely and try your best to fix mistakes and problems.
    CrazyBoy826-Icon.png CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account
    00:10, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
Tabourettable (talk | contribs)
  • You have some strength, don't you? ;) No matter how mistakes you make, you keep getting motivated to edit this place more. I decided I could help you with your motivation, I can see the future shining that you'll be an AWESOME editor.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
banana439monkey (talk | contribs)
  • You always point out wrong things if there is a discussion between other people in a funny way and also know how to critcise someone without...uhh...being harsh or anything, just plain funny. Congrats, my friend who gave me karma in a talk page message...
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:15, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Jammum (talk | contribs)
  • You seem cool! Also, you indirectly helped me with a mouse pointer dialogue!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:04, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
Hellounicorns2 (talk | contribs)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The next TT is February 27th. See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Why won’t this table work?

No Not done

Link: User:Waffle_Iron_Studios/ScratchNet shop page
Waffle_Iron_Studios (talk | contribs) 21:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I think it's because the table does not have any line-breaks. See this.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 1,937 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! February 27th, 2020

Welcome to the 26th Thankful Thursday! February 27th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for your impressive amount of contributions to the Scratch Wiki! Keep up the good effort!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 02:17, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
IsaiahContreras (talk | contribs)
TenType (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for patrolling so diligently! You're precisely what I search for in an EW (not that others aren't) - thanks for being so faithful to the Wiki.
    Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
    14:41, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
Dominic305 (talk | contribs)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The next TT is March 26th. See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

New Featured Images

Yes Done

Does anyone have suggestions for new featured images after these ones have run their course? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:52, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

We should really have a better system for suggesting featured images... ;) (see Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
I agree.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
What does everyone think about this one?
Animate a name tutorial.png
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:12, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
+1, that image looks good. I'm quite partial to this one:
MakeItFlyTutorialTipsPage.PNG
I also like the look of this image of the ST:
Scratch-team.jpg
How does everyone feel about these?
border=3px Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 21:53, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
lol did you see my message to RC stalkers
I like those - I don't necessarily think we should have two "ST Tips" images though, so I think we should choose one more.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:42, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
How about this one?
Sig Change.png
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:34, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────yes I did :P

+1 to that image highlighting the signature. This should be useful to answer all the forum questions about signatures!

I think we'll go with the two images that you've suggested and the one of the ST. Can we get an admin to update this please? :)
border=3px Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 22:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done. Does it look okay?
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:59, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Yep - looks great!
border=3px Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 08:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

IWB Interwiki Check

Hello everyone. It's been awhile since IWB has scanned the wikis for interwikis to add, and now is probably a good time to do that!

Below you'll find a list of proposed edits from the bot. It would be helpful if a few people could look at some proposed edits and double check them for errors:

User:InterwikiBot/Proposed_Edits

Several issues have already been discovered:

  • Not properly handling empty interwikis, ex en:, see the ja homepage
  • test -> tw
  • The bot is proposing adding interwikis to other pages when they already have an interwiki for that language
  • Help:Namespaces has a flat out wrong interwiki suggestion

This might take another round or two to remove perviously undiscovered bugs, but with the wikis growing more complex, it's important to get them now. Thank you
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:37, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Advertising article

We really need to overhaul this article. A lot of it is just advertising the product. For example, do we really need a "Buying" section?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 23:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)

Scratch Bit has also a buying section. But the entire page is just an ad.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 08:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
I've moved the GoPiGo article to the creator's userspace (which has precedent - see the last topic on User talk:DexterInd) and removed the categories & advertisement notes.
Scratch Bit is an official Scratch product and must be documented. It stays.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Sonic the Hedgehog

Right now the wiki is saturated with Sonic the Hedgehog stuff, specially the AF pages. Lots of example of stuff are Sonic stuff. The entire wiki feels like an indirect Sonic ad. We should change a lot of this examples.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 11:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Other than April Fools pages, could you give a few examples?
Ravenclaw900 (talk | contribs) 13:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Just wiki search Sonic or Hedgehog. Also a lot of examples are by PrincessPandaLover and need to be changed int more generic stuff.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 14:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
If I'm not mistaken, the Sonic stuff is limited to only AF pages. It's fine to gradually phase AF pages away from Sonic content while making other edits to the pages, but don't go mass editing out Sonic stuff. (Do note that I don't really see a problem with a Sonic theme in AF pages lol)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
16:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
I agree. PrincessPandaLover has always been an excellent editor - they enjoyed to utilize the Sonic theme within their edits. :) Yes Done
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:10, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German

Currently, the links under the 'Legal' category do not are not mentioned that they are in German. I suggest that the footer mentions that the content under the Legal category are in German.

Without mentioning that, some people might be confused that they are in German, and not English. They also cannot be translated into English without it being inaccurate.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 1,937 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 13:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Why would they be German?
OurPrincess (talk | contribs) 16:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
The Wiki servers are located in Germany and therefore follow the rules/regulations of Germany.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Would you be amenable to using the external link marker on them instead? Putting "(German)" on a footer link seems unorthodox...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
The servers are German because they are owned by Martin Wollenweber, who lives in Germany.
OurPrincess (talk | contribs) 11:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Maybe the Privacy Policy and the Disclaimers can be individually labelled that they are in German, or is that still 'unorthodox'? They could have 'in German' put in brackets after them.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 1,937 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 13:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
I think it's fine the way it is, but it should get translated for other wikis so we know what happens to our data.
-- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,418)  Scratch  Directory 
17:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Did you read the OP? They can't be translated accurately.

Having a notice at the top of the actual pages saying something similar to what I say on my userpage (the "many other wikis link here" thing), ideally translated into everything, would also be fine for me - I'm only opposed to changing the footer.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Updating Translators page

The Scratch Team is no longer actively maintaining the translators page https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Translators

I'd like to remove the Scratch Team only badge and allow folks from the translation community to update the page. Ideally there would be just one or two people per language that would keep things up to date for their language.

Would there be a different process for translators to join as a wiki editor? Are there different suggestions for having the translators page managed by the community?

Thanks, --Chris
-unsigned comment by Chrisg (talk | contribs)

Ok! I'll remove the banner at the top of the page for you. As for the translation community updating the page, we can not allow a different application processes for translators joining the wiki, though they are welcome to follow the current application processes and join the wiki that way. Also if they chose not to join they can always leave a post on the Community Portal in the forums with what should be updated and one of our editors will happily make the change. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 16:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
How will you let all the translators know they can use the Scratch CP, or join the Wiki for editing the page?
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:41, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
The translators have internal commmunication mechanisms including email blasts via transifex or messages in slack. I believe that Chris can easily relay the message to the translators if necessary. Yes Done
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:09, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Turbo Mode

Yes Done

This article is very outdated, I believe we should create an article on Turbo Mode itself.

VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  22:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

I agree - there is an article about Detecting Turbo Mode, but there doesn't seem to be one about Turbo Mode, as Turbo Mode just redirects to that article. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
The problem seems to be fixed as there is now a template saying it is from a historical perspective.
OurPrincess (talk | contribs) 18:06, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
There is - however, I don't believe that is the problem here. I think the problem VFDan is referring to is that there is not an article about Turbo Mode.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:11, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
That is what I am referring to; I believe we should create an article about Scratch 3.0's Turbo Mode

VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  00:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
You could create an article entitled "Turbo Mode (3.0)" and redirect Turbo Mode to that page instead of to the historical page.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Created the page, and changed the redirect. However the page is in dire need of expansion.

VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  17:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Marked as Yes Done however the article still needs expansion
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

How to make a quiz

[big] What Is A Quiz? [/big]
-unsigned comment by Cs1760724 (talk | contribs)

This isn’t the purpose of the Community Portal.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 1,937 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
I was actually just about to make a tutorial for that. What a coincidence~! :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Creating a Quiz already exists.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 1,937 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
I've redirected How to Make a Quiz to Creating a Quiz.
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi, please don't make topics on Scratch-related topics on the Scratch Wiki! For that, you can go to the Scratch "Help with Scripts" or "Questions about Scratch" forums: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/7/ https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/4/
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:39, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
@Jammum I meant on my website :) (it's been created). I'm going to call this topic Yes Done
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:07, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

WikiMonitor is hurting me

Yes Done

Wow, so I just added the {{Done}} and {{-}} templates before the title of a message, and I signed my message under it. The only thing is, I accidentally forgot to add the done thing, so I had to edit my post and put that there. That message was from Wikibot. And then, when I did that, I got another message from WikiMonitor saying that I didn't sign the post meanwhile I'd just added the templates to the title.

Now, maybe this sounds very stupid, but I'm pretty sure I've done this before and WikiMonitor didn't come at me like that. What's going on?
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:37, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

The problem is that you forgot to sign the edit where you added {{done}}, which caused WikiMonitor to message you. I've left a tip on your talk page (wow you already responded to it)
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:20, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
I am a fast clicker when it comes to messages on the SW (I feel strangely lonely here XD)
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 09:43, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Well, I guess this is Yes Done now.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 12:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Lancer PFP trend

In the last few days, a PFP trend about Lancer from Deltarune has been on many Scratcher's PFPs. They normally replace the eyes and mouth of their face to Lancer's eyes and mouth. @-BoyMcBoy- was the first popular Scratcher to do it, and he got the face from @MusicManJoe. Is this notable enough to add to the Scratch Trends page?


PaddlerGames (talk | contribs) 12:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

I have not seen this trend at all on Scratch.
-- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,418)  Scratch  Directory 
02:56, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Neither have I
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  17:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
I have not personally seen it myself, although I can confirm that it does appear to be a trend. I have seen and responded to almost a dozen or more forum topics asking about this trend.
border=3px Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 19:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki YT Channel

Hi everyone! I wanted to put a little feeler out there to see who was interested in participating/creating content for a possible Scratch Wiki YT Channel. We would publish wiki-like content within YT's video format. We could then link to this content from within the Wiki. You could for example create a Scratch tutorial, run-through a certain block or feature, or discuss a recent community venture you participated in. If y'all are interested in seeing this idea come to fruition, please comment to express your interest and volunteer yourself for content creation. Thanks!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 14:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

I think that this would compete with the Scratch Wiki Adventure though...
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  15:04, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
I don't really see much benefit in it. Why would we need this? We already have Wiki Wednesday.
-- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,418)  Scratch  Directory 
15:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Well we would be able to produce varied content aside from Wiki Wednesday. People have also suggested tutorials for S:WELCOME to me privately. We'd be modeling it in some regards to Wikipedia's YT Channel.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 16:32, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
I'm interested! But... What do you mean by "volunteer yourself for content creation"? Is there a specific page to apply?
Dilek's Wiki Signature Picture.pngDilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page

Scratch Links

Yes Done

Maybe we can add a new brackets thing for Scratch Links. For example: [[Scratch/User:Example]] or [[Scratch/Project:Example]]. For other links, we could just do [[Scratch:{stuff after scratch.mit.edu/}]]. Thoughts?
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  23:30, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

My reasoning for this is that it looks much better if it looked like an internal link instead of an external link.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  17:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
That sounds like a good idea!
GrahamSH (talk | contribs) 20:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
"Scratch/Project:" is too long of a prefix IMO and also they shouldn't have caps. I've been considering adding project: and studio: - is there any other type of thing on Scratch that gets linked to often?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
00:53, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Well we already have Discussion Forums, possibly user:? I don't know how often this would be linked to though.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  14:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC)────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

I created a template for Scratch links in here and it worked. Everybody can use it with this code:{{scratch|write there your link code(when you write studios and projects' code, don't use their names)|write in there why are you using it:user,studio,project}}
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 20:20, 5 May 2020 (UTC)

Ahmetlii, please correct me if I'm wrong, but your template still seems to produce external links. VFDan is suggesting a system that would produce internal links. I've re-marked this section as No Not done.
Also, a template-related thing: you put <onlyinclude> tags around the {{/doc}}, but they should have been <noinclude> tags, because you don't want to include the doc in the template. Overall though, nice template! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:40, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
(I've fixed the <onlyinclude> error)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for edits Bigpuppy. I saw your edits and my mistake. My template is still a temporary solution because it's pretty new template and including problems. I will remove external links as soon as possible.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 21:06, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
EWs or above can just set up Interwiki to do links to projects, users, and studios.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 1,937 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 06:16, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
A quick correction - it looks like only bureaucrats can edit Interwiki data.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 19:30, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
user: won't work - that conflicts with the User: namespace. I've added project: and studio: now, though. We'll need to figure out an alternative for linking to Scratch users - maybe users:?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
01:47, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────What about profile:?
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:09, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

^^^ profile: should work.
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:17, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Yea profile: seems good.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  15:24, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Alright, Yes Done! I've also added a general-purpose scratch: whose argument is just the path after the slash - [[scratch:conference]] produces scratch:conference.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
16:40, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! This will be really helpful for editors!
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  16:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Added it to S:STYLE, at internal-scratch-links.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  23:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── TenType pointed out something very relevant - Project:104 links to Scratch Wiki:104! I'd forgotten about this - "project" is a namespace alias for whatever the meta-namespace is. I've renamed project: to projects: to get around this; and for consistency, studio: is now studios: and profile is now users: (the last one because "users" isn't a namespace while "user" is). The scratch: prefix remains unchanged. FYI!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:24, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Cool-cat-emoji.png Cool! Thanks, TenType and Ken.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! April 30th, 2020

Welcome to the 27th Thankful Thursday! April 30th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
StampDanFan (talk | contribs)
jvvg (talk | contribs)
  • Even though I've had bad experiences with WikiMonitor in the past, it's still an awesome bot that the Wiki would be empty without. Thank you so much for coding it, man!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 16:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
Banana439monkey (talk | contribs)
Drunken Sailor (talk | contribs)
  • You were inactive for a while (when I was here back in the day) and now you've taken over Recent Changes. Wow.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 16:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I've seen so many helpful edits from you recently! Thanks so much, you're amazing! :D
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:59, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
  • How in the world can I leave without talking you? Thank you, sire, for being this active around here!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 16:04, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)
Dilek10 (talk | contribs)
  • Back in November 2019, you were the dude who taught me that it's not wrong to add Thankful Thursday thanks on other days than Thursdays. Go check on your talk page XD
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 09:41, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
Coder2045 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your edits, they're appreciated greatly! :D
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 22:35, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for all your helpful edits to the wiki recently, and for complimenting so many people! People like you make the wiki a better place. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:26, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for making (sometimes funny puns.
    VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  02:44, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Accountcraft123 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your edits and enthusiasm when joining the Scratch Wiki! We're excited to have you here! :D
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:20, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
DragonAero (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for using your first ever mainspace edit to do an important contribution!
    VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  23:51, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Ew10528 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your helpful edits, and welcome to the Scratch Wiki!
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 00:43, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The next TT is May 28th. See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 14:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

No Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 14:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
I don't know if MakeTheBrainHappy wants to fix this, but It says "...brings there own ideas" where it should say "...brings their own ideas" :P
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
18:13, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Can someone please help

Can someone protect this talk page archive?
Dilek's Wiki Signature Picture.pngDilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 11:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done - in the future please place such requests on S:CPSYS.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
12:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, and alright!
Dilek's Wiki Signature Picture.pngDilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 11:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Scratch + the Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics by Stephen Wolfram

Hi everyone! I've been asked to give you a heads up about an excellent program over on the DE Wiki: Scratch Club. I've been a few times (and would love to attend more) and the discussions relate both the Wiki and fascinating technology. The meetings are for international audiences as well with English as a standardized language. Here is a little sneak peak as to what they will be discussing at the next meeting taking place on May 20th, 2020 at *6:30 G.M.T - 8:30 C.E.S.T (Germany)*.

  • Offtopic: https://youtu.be/60P7717-XOQ (Stephen Wolfram: Computing a Theory of Everything) - This month Stephen Wolfram presented a breakthrough in his thoughts concerning the creation of an entirely new model of the world based on Automata Theory. He thereby wishes to better explain the laws concerning space, time, energy and matter in a clearer light than previous models. In this manner he is one step closer to achieving his life goal which he presented in the TED-talk linked above ten years ago. Here is his presentation from 4/14/2020 in which he explains his theories as well as he can and affords all interested listeners an opportunity to share his joy in the solution. If his theory is correct, it may be a breakthrough as great as that of Newton and Einstein. Fascinating! https://youtu.be/rbfFt2uNEyQ (Wolfram Physics Project Launch: 14. April 2020)
  • The topic above isn't *offtopic* at all but a great idea for us! Who will find the Scratch program that best interprets "Rule 30"? Or who will program it? Who will write a Scratch Wiki article for it that is of such quality that it will be in Wiki Wednesday for both the English and German Wikis at the same time? *This must become a theme within the Scratch community* Why? It is the best example for Scratch's motto: "low floor high ceiling." Every student can appreciate "Rule 30" and even program it, but the implications point to a "Theory of Everything."
  • Determine the "Scratch Project of the Week"
  • Suggest Wiki-Wednesday Articles
  • ggf. Post the News! (DE)
  • Go through the latest messages, specifically [11], review author task list [12]


I hope that you find these topics interesting yourself and mark down the time to join the meeting! Please let @MartinWollenweber know if you are interested in joining the group where the discussion will take place.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 15:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

@Makethebrainhappy: Thank you very much for translating and sharing with the english Scratch Wiki Community! I hope this idea is as interesting to some of you as it is to me. Hope some of you "catch fire" and start their own creative activities. What do you think?
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
15:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
...I keep wanting to join, but I'm afraid I've been struck down once again by the time - 8:30pm CEST = 2:30am HKT ._.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:43, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
IMHO it‘s not important, to join the scheduled german Scratch Club Onlinemeeting, but to consider if and how we integrate Stephen Wolframs breakthrough into Scratch and Scratch Wikis activities.
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:58, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
@Makethebrainhappy: Would you mind if we change the subject to " Sratch + the Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics by Stephen Wolfram" ? It's more about that than about the "Scratch Club Meetings (DE)"...
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
18:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
No, not at all.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:39, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, de:SC will start next week Wednesday 20.5. at 20:30 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Time Makethebrainhappy knows how to join (please don't share our Google Hangout Link public!!)
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
15:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Revamping and Reviving S:CPND

No Not done

Yes, I know there are already two topics about this, but this one has a very specific suggestion that can be implemented relatively quickly if people agree.

As you probably know, there's a section of the CP specifically for topics that are not yet done and haven't been done for a while. Users can access it by going to Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done or S:CPND, or alternatively via the "Things to Do" link under "For Editors" in the sidebar. The unavoidable fact is that these topics hardly ever get looked at. By anyone.

There have already been two topics created about this issue and how to solve it, Not Done doesn't get enough attention and Not Done. Kenny2scratch introduces his topic (the former one) with "So I was browsing through Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done and realized that all of the discussions had been moved there and left to rot simply because they happened to last longer than an archive period." The unfortunate thing is, this is still happening. And not only that, but ironically, it's happening to both of the topics I linked. Ken's is from February of (drumroll, please) 2018. I am not about to propose a "cure-all" solution to this problem, but something that could help. In other words, it definitely won't solve the problem, but it might assist a bit in solving it.

Well, let's get onto the idea already, shall we? I think that when people do hear about Not Done, and go to it (wanting to contribute to a discussion), they may get frightened by the overwhelming length of some of the topics and leave without contributing to any of them. Therefore, here is my suggestion: we put each discussion (not its corresponding header) into an "extended content" box using {{collapse top}} and {{collapse bottom}}. Then under the header, but not in the "extended content" box, we add a short, one to three sentence summary of what the OP is saying (and perhaps even more things, like what has been discussed so far). I've created a mockup with two discussions here.

I think that this way, when folks go to S:CPND, they can easily find a discussion they'd like to contribute to (without being scared away quickly). Then, when they find a discussion they're interested in, they can un-collapse the box and read the replies so that they can give their opinion. They won't be scared away because they didn't see tons of long discussions at the same time, they just saw short suggestions. Then they see one long discussion after they un-collapse the box — the one they're interested in.

What do you think?
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:03, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

+1 :-)
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
15:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
I have the same opinion with Bigpuppy, also I have a suggestion: We can archive some of the Not Done topics, because they are not discussed actively and some of them outdated.It's still a big problem.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 20:09, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Hmm, I like the idea but looking at your mockup I'm not sure how well it'd work in practice. I feel like it might be a better idea to let the OP(ost) of each topic be the summary, and rather collapse away all of the subsequent discussion so that it's easier to scroll past. If the OP(ost) itself is really long, then I suppose a manual summary might be in order, but unless the OP(oster) is inactive then it might be a good idea to let them do the summarizing themselves to best capture the essence of the idea. Does that make sense?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
16:37, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I definitely see what you're saying. What defines "really long" though? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 03:20, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Whichever human happens to be making the collapsing edit - there doesn't need to be a boundary, just leave it up to the judgement of whoever is doing the moving :)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
+1, the mockup looks great! :D
TenType (talk | contribs) 20:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────To clarify, do you agree with Ken's idea as well, TenType? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I think the OP should be part the summary except in situations when its long.
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:45, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
that was fast
Okay, thanks for clarifying. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Why is the interwiki link for the Test-Scratch Wiki the language code for Twi?

The interwiki code for the Test Wiki is 'tw', and the 'in Other Languages' section of the homepage says 'Twi', again with a link to the Test Scratch Wiki.

On it, there is no Test-Wiki for Twi, which seems to be an African language spoken in Ghana. If there is no Test-Wiki for Twi, why does the Interwiki link to the Test-Wiki use its language code?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 1,937 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 09:22, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Actually, I saw it before in Wikipedia's ISO 639-3 language codes list a week ago, and I was going to say that. I think this code designed from Test Scratch Wiki. However, I think that it's not a big problem for now.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 11:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
test is not an inter-language code, so it's impossible to link to (say) the Test wiki CP using [[test:Test-Scratch-Wiki talk:Community Portal]] the same way we can for real languages. However, tw: happens to be a real language, whose language code is recognized as an inter-language code, whose language code can nicely stand for "test wiki", and whose language name can be repurposed to mean test wiki. If we ever do have a wiki in the actual Twi language, then things will have to change; but for now, we use "Twi" as a means of treating "test" as an inter-language link rather than inter-wiki.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
16:33, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Featured Image Suggestions?

No Not done

Hey, folks! Does anyone have any suggestions for featured images for the next time we update them? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 03:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

How about this?
Color adjuster.png

TenType (talk | contribs) 20:45, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
I like that one! How about this one?
Scratch 3.0 Sound Recorder.png
If we do choose both of these, though, we should choose something not from the editor for the third one. This will provide some variety.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Didn't the sound recorder picture already get featured? It has the category Category:Featured Articles/Images.
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
I didn't notice that, lol. I wonder why it doesn't have the {{Featured}} template then?
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:56, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe it was forgotten or something :P
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:58, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Well, now it does. :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 03:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────How about this one?
Welcoming Committee.png
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 03:11, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Looks good!
TenType (talk | contribs) 03:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
Hey, maybe this as well? Pen stats change.png
Dilek's Wiki Signature Picture.pngDilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 06:34, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
I like that one!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

What are...

...common.js pages for?
Dilek's Wiki Signature Picture.pngDilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 08:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Your common.js file is a JavaScript file that will run on all pages, no matter what skin you're using - but only for you. It's basically a Wiki-specific alternative to userscripts that MediaWiki supports natively.
Your common.css file is a CSS file that likewise applies to all pages you visit on all skins, only for you.
Changing "common" to the name of a skin, e.g. "scratchwikiskin2" will make it only apply to all pages when you are viewing them in that skin.
There are also MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css files (as well as their skin-specific equivalents) that run on all pages for all users. These can only be edited by admins.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Oh, so it's a customizable... Wiki theme, right?
Dilek's Wiki Signature Picture.pngDilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 13:20, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Not really... it's basically a script in JavaScript that runs on every page you visit. To "customize" your Wiki theme, it would be easier to do it in Your common.css file
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  17:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
That means it can be used for things such as detecting stuff like viruses, right?
Dilek's Wiki Signature Picture.pngDilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 18:46, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── No because they are applying for this website. Also, every user can customize and every user can add pop-ups, warnings when they logged in but nobody cannot detect viruses with these files. For example, there is a pop-up made with JavaScript file in right bottom.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion: Add a "sandbox" option in the user pull-down on the header

My suggestion is above — that's pretty much it. When you click on your username, you would see your username, "Talk," "Preferences," "Watchlist," "Contributions," "Log out," and "Sandbox" thrown somewhere in there. "Sandbox" would direct you to your personal sandbox, not the public sandbox. If the user hasn't created their sandbox, it would direct them to the page to create it.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Sounds like a cool feature. +1!
Dilek's Wiki Signature Picture.pngDilek10-Talk-Contribs-Profile Page 17:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
I think it's a good idea, but I think we can create a disambiguation page rather than direct to the personal sandbox. However, +1!
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 18:14, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia has this, but this is actually harder to implement than you might think - the skin does not hardcode the user dropdown links, they are generated by MediaWiki itself. Adding the sandbox link would require a hook somewhere in LocalSettings.php and that might mess up some rhythms. There could be a link in the For Editors box, though! Special:MyPage/Sandbox is a handy link. What say y'all?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
18:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I think that's a good alternative then! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 18:48, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Good idea!
TenType (talk | contribs) 18:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── +1!:)
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

sooo idk if this is off-topic

but lookie here alright I constantly go active and off-topic on the Scratch Wiki depending on my mood, but I still help a lot on the Scratch discussion forums in the meantime. is this an issue?
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 18:21, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Why would it be?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,994)) 18:23, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
You are not under any obligation to stay active - if you need to take a break from Wiki editing, do. Edit when you feel like it. We don't block people or anything for being inactive.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
18:33, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Studio Articles

Hi! I was wondering if people can write articles on studios on the Scratch Wiki. The guidelines say if you are not allowed to advertise users or user-generated content. Does this apply to studios? I don't think it does because a Wikian wrote an article about the Scratch Design Studio. It merely explains what the SDC (Scratch Design Studio) is. So my question is can you write an article about a certain studio? Without advertising it of course, but merely explaining what the studio is and its purpose. I don't think I'll be writing any studio articles anytime soon but an answer would be much appreciated. If you would like to answer me on my talk page the link is here
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 21:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26

Articles about user-generated content (whether projects, studios, or anything else) are not allowed. The Scratch Design Studio is not user-generated content as it was created by the Scratch Team.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
That said, there are some exceptions.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
What about the Scratch Welcoming Committee? Or is that an exception?
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 21:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26
The Scratch Welcoming Committee is also an official Scratch Team studio, so it is not user-generated content. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Really? I didn't know that. I thought it was user generated but had a few ST members as managers. I don't really pay much attention to studios.
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 21:45, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26
Hi, please remember to indent properly - you can find a guide for indenting on the Welcome tutorial or Help:Talk Pages
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:29, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Please help me

Hello I am mastercoder4life. I am a new wikian and didn't understand the welcoming pages too well. Could someone please tell me how to insert a link?
Mastercoder4life (talk | contribs) 23:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Mastercoder4life! Welcome to the Scratch Wiki! :)
On the wiki we have two types of links — internal links and external links. You use internal links when you're linking to a page on the Scratch Wiki, Scratch, or Wikipedia. You use external links to link to any other sites.
To make an internal link, you use this syntax: [[NAME OF PAGE|LINK TEXT, IF APPLICABLE]] For example, if you wanted to link to the page about the Scratch Team, you'd do this: [[Scratch Team]] That would make this: Scratch Team Or you could do this: [[Scratch Team|ST]] That would make this: ST
You make an external link with this syntax: [URL LINKTEXT] For example, if you wanted to link to example.com, you could do this: [https://example.com/ Example] And that would make this: Example
For more information, visit Help:Links.
Again, welcome to the Scratch Wiki! We're happy to have you here! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 23:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
thanks so much!
Mastercoder4life (talk | contribs) 00:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
In the future please indent your replies, one more colon before each reply. I fixed your last comment for you, but in the future please indent. Look at the syntax for this conversation to see what I'm talking about, and for more information see Help:Welcome/4#Indenting. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 00:21, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Hi mastercoder4life. To learn how to link click here. Thank you for your contributions to the wiki : )
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 02:09, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Privacy policy in English?

The "privacy policy" link at the bottom of the page is in German. Is there one in English?
Donotforgetmycode (talk | contribs) 08:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

No, it's discussed in the past, and admins don't want to change it because of the laws and problems about the translation. See also to here.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
08:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Oh, OK. I still don't understand why it's dangerous to translate it.
Donotforgetmycode (talk | contribs) 17:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
You don't speak a foreign language then; some things are very tough to translate. One single error in translation could basically destroy this site.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  18:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

macOS drops support for Scratch 1.4 on versions 10.14 and 10.15

Several replies in this forum topic say that macOS 10.14 and 10.15 drop support for 32-bit apps, including Scratch 1.4 and obviously other 1.x versions. The end of support for 32 bit apps on 10.15 is mentioned on Apple Inc's website here.

Where in this wiki should that information be put?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ My 1,937 Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 11:56, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Of course, the Scratch 1.x pages.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,994)) 12:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

New Scratch Wiki Logo?

Hi! I think that because the main page of the Scratch Wiki and the scratchblocks have the new 3.0 style, why not the logo? I think that the Scratch Wiki logo needs an update. It has the old 2.0 style, and 2.0 is long gone. Please tell me your thoughts on this!
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 00:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

...? The Wiki logo currently uses the 3.0 version of the Scratch logo for the word "Scratch". Keep in mind that the Scratch Website had parts in 3.0 styling long before 3.0 came out.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:28, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Oh, never mind, I see the difference now. Still, there's no need for a new logo - this one works perfectly well and isn't completely outdated (like the old favicon was).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:51, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

How to find user rank?

I joined the wiki nineteen days ago but I do not know my user rank (what is that called exactly?). How do I find it?
R4356th (talk | contribs) 17:43, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Hello, R4356th. If you go into your preferences, it will show all of the user groups you are in (under "Basic information"). For a list of possible user groups and the rights that come with them, view this list. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)