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Here's some things that we need your help for.
 
Here's some things that we need your help for.
  
=== Are these done? ===
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=== Archive This!!!! ===
* [[S:CPND#Lack of curiosity at Scratch Wiki?]] - articles are made
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* [[S:CPND#Wiki Wednesday suggestion link should be on the left?]] - accepted
* [[S:CPND#Should "Griffpatch" become a wiki article?]] - seems rejected
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* [[S:CPND#Why doesn't the "CodeMirror" thing always work?]] - known bug
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* [[S:CPND#Assets Page]] - writer being inactive
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* [[S:CPND#Community Blocks Page in my Userspace]] - done
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* [[S:CPND#VisualEditor extension]] - accepted (when it's time)
  
 
=== <span id="Not done">Other Topics</span> ===
 
=== <span id="Not done">Other Topics</span> ===
 
Topics that are not listed above.
 
Topics that are not listed above.
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==== About Scratch 3.0 ====
 
==== About Scratch 3.0 ====
 
* [[S:CPND#A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All]]
 
* [[S:CPND#A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All]]
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==== About Wiki Management ====
 
==== About Wiki Management ====
 
===== Backend =====
 
===== Backend =====
* [[S:CPND#Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis ?]]
 
 
* [[S:CPND#Embedding of Scratch Projects]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Embedding of Scratch Projects]]
* [[S:CPND#Things We have to Do]]
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===== Page Management =====
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* [[S:CPND#Help:Contents Is missing some help pages]]
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* [[S:CPND#Not Done doesn't get enough attention]]
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* [[S:CPND#Not Done]]
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* [[S:CPND#Split the Paint Article]]
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* [[S:CPND#New page for mall simulators]]
  
 
===== Rules =====
 
===== Rules =====
 
* [[S:CPND#custom signatures]]
 
* [[S:CPND#custom signatures]]
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* [[S:CPND#Account Request Notes]]
 
* [[S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use]]
 
* [[S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use]]
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* [[S:CPND#Relax S:NOSP even more]]
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* [[S:CPND#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]]
  
 
===== Interwiki =====
 
===== Interwiki =====
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{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 
{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
 
:(I have edited this topic a little from its original version){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
 
:(I have edited this topic a little from its original version){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
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::Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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:::Done.
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:::Updated the list as the author.{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::Updated! {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
  
== New page for intro/outro ==
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== Logging server faults ==
 
 
I think this is a big thing right know so should we have a main space article about intros/outros on one page or on two pages? Also will anyone help we write it?<br>{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 13:50, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:Hmmmm, are you talking about a intro/outro to a project?<scratchsig>NYCDOT</scratchsig> 20:58, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 
::Yes i am<br>{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 16:38, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:::{{not done}}{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 14:38, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 
::::It should be a single article called "Intros and Outros." "Intro" and "Outro" should redirect to it.{{User:Millie S/signature}} 17:08, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
 
::::: I think a single article, to which the searches "Intro" and "Outro" direct to, would be good. It would be useful to Scratchers who don't know what they are and might try to search for one or the other but want to know about both.<br><scratchsig>SuperWhale123</scratchsig> 09:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::That is a good idea. <scratchsig>Sti_scratch</scratchsig> 04:45, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== English Scratch Club ==
 
 
{{not done}}
 
{{not done}}
  
The [https://scratch-dach.info/wiki/Scratch-Wiki:Scratch_Club Scratch club] is a weekly meeting among a group of Scratchers which are contributing actively to the Scratch Wiki and to Scratch in general. The meetings are used to discuss important issues, most notable was the discussion if the transition of the english Wiki should take place. Currently, the weekly meetings are held in German, but we used to have an international Scratch club following after the German one. An alternative could be to make it alternating every week between German and English. As a start, who of the English and international Wiki administrators would be interested in it and able to join? And what would be better: weekly every Monday at 9:00 PM CET or bi-weekly at 8:00 PM? Once I get a tendency about the ''if'' and ''when'', I will bring it up at the next German Scratch club, perhaps already next Monday. <scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 20:54, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:Aw man! I wish I was a admin. Well, I am pretty sure someone (Cough cough Kenny2scatch Cough Cough)<scratchsig>NYCDOT</scratchsig> 22:14, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:I would definitely like to join, but neither 8 or 9 PM CET work for me - I'm in Hong Kong, and 8PM CET is 3AM HKT... Best would be on weekends, since everyone's time is likely to be more flexible - on weekdays, we have work and school, but on weekends times that would normally be during work/school are usually ok. Would 2PM CET on Saturdays (or Sundays) be workable?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:32, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 
::Hey, I noticed where I live, that 8/9 PM is 3 PMEST(end of school day!), but 2PM CET is 8AMEST which is not good.<scratchsig>NYCDOT</scratchsig> 11:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I know this has been inactive for a ''very'' long time.
 
:::Neither 8 or 9 PM CET work for me either, as they are 12 and 1 PM, which is in the middle of the school day, and I am busy on the weekends at that time. How about an "always open" meeting where you can post anytime? {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 18:55, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Not Done ==
 
{{not done}}<!-- lol -->
 
 
I know someone already brought it up...<br/>
 
Anyways, Not Done is not getting any attention. I know that Kenny2scratch already added “Things To Do” on the left sidebar, and the TOC of Not Done, yet no one seems to notice it. I think that we should release an announcement to all existing editors about ND, and all incoming users about ND on their welcome page. In fact, I’m going to add that to my welcome right now.<br/>
 
Any thoughts?{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 23:53, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:Nice idea, support! <br>{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 12:06, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::Thanks!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 15:15, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Support, I think that is a great idea. <scratchsig>Purplewolves</scratchsig> 20:32, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Thanks for support!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 22:15, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::No worries. <scratchsig>Purplewolves</scratchsig> 22:53, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Support better way to mark not done. Should the TOC on the CP mark out all the not done discussions in a different text color, or something like that? One idea
 
::::::{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}}  03:45, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
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Perhaps make all of the Not Done topics have bold titles? That should attract attention to them for those who browse the TOC.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:47, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:Maybe what we could do is put the Not Done Topics in Red in the TOC of the CP, the done topics Green in the TOC of the CP, and the in progress discussions the blue color it currently is.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 12:47, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
::I agree with KrIsMa, Kenny2scratch, and NYCDOT on having some way to show which topics are done and which are not done, but how would we make topics show as a different color in the table of contents?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:31, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
:::That...is a really good question. I have no idea. I really don't.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 19:22, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Forum Topics ==
 
 
Hi guys! I have a question about the forum topics. Should we change the dates of when it first opened to the dates of the first topic? Or is that already done? Also, should we include the first forum topic of each forum?{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 21:55, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 
:I disagree, but even if I did, how do you intend to find the first created thread in a subforum, given that they will get bumped around a bit?<scratchsig>Jokebookservice1</scratchsig> 00:12, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 
::I wasn't saying that we must add it. It was just a thought.{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 00:45, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Huh? What are you talking about?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:55, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 
::::<small>I'd appreciate it if you would take time to read what I wrote on top</small><br/>What I am trying to say is that for the forum pages, should we add the exact dates of the official opening, if we know it? And should we include the first forum topic of each forum?{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 13:01, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::If I hadn't read what you said, I wouldn't have replied. I said "what are you talking about" because I didn't understand what you wrote on top.
 
:::::I think the exact date created is too easy to get wrong and too hard to get write to merit inclusion in forum pages. The forum could have been open for days before anybody noticed it.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:02, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Yes, that is true that the exact date is very hard to get, even harder that the original guys (Lucario, JSO, Veggieman001, etc.) are gone. Do we think we could get the month from a ST member? And maybe even the first topic?{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 13:06, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Translating Japanese articles into English ==
 
 
Hello! I'm an admin in Japanese Scratch Wiki. In that wiki, we have some articles that English Wiki doesn't have. (Of course, some can't be, due to the strict [[S:NOSP]]!)
 
* [[:ja:音量を使ってScratchを制御する]] (Control Scratch via Loudness Block)
 
* [[:ja:Some Blocks]] (An early extension of Scratch 3.0, which is removed later.)
 
* [[:ja:画像のホスト/cubeupload.com]] (How to Use Cubeupload.com)
 
* [[:ja:商標の方針]] ([https://github.com/LLK/scratch-flash/blob/develop/TRADEMARK_POLICY Trademark Policy])
 
Please discuss whether they are useful. Thank you! {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 22:54, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
 
:Cool articles! I definitely think we should add the "Some Blocks" one; since it was a Scratch 3.0 extension just like [[Pen Extension|the pen extension]] or the [[Music Extension|music extension]], it's just that it was removed. {{e|:)}}
 
 
:I think the cubeupload one might work well on the Wiki - or at least as a section in [[Image Hosting]].
 
 
:I think we could possibly add the Trademark Policy one - after all, we have articles for the [[Privacy Policy]], [[Terms of Use]], and [[Community Guidelines]].
 
 
:Could you please explain the first one a bit more? Thank you. {{e|:D}}
 
 
:Anyway, thanks for pointing these out - in my opinion most, if not all of them, could be good articles on the English Scratch Wiki as well as the Japanese one! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 14:16, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Uploading ScratchBlocks files ==
 
 
I can't upload .sb2 or .sb3 files, even though I can upload the original .sb files. There's also the issue where I can't ignore the 'empty file' warning when uploading an 'sb2' file.{{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 22:15, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:An .sb .sb2 or .sb3 is a scratch project file. If you want to use scratch block like this: <scratchblocks> When GF clicked</scratchblocks> then you use it as if you were using in the scratch fourms. You can also us this to help you make them as well: https://scratchblocks.github.io/ <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:49, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::I want users to download a project, not to <b>painstakingly</b> copy it block by block. The sb3 I'm uploading has some blocks you can't easily duplicate with ScratchBlocks.{{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 02:19, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::It's much better, usually, to painstakingly copy it block by block, however. Downloading someone else's files and modifying them doesn't teach you as much as re-making the script yourself and attempting to understand it as you do so. A 3.0 scratchblocks is [https://s3blocks.github.io coming], and once it's out we'll use it.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:22, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::So if my project has <abbr title="Filler number">147</abbr> unique, lengthy scripts and utilizes sprites, it's more beneficial to duplicate it manually, <abbr title="I can't share the project, there's no 3.0 community.">right?</abbr>{{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 23:59, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::{{not done| This problem wasn't solved.}}{{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 01:55, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::We are not writing pages about one custom program, but the genre of the project, we want also scratchers to be creative while making it. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 21:12, 17 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::::I wasn't making a page about a program, I was uploading a ScratchBlocks file onto the Scratch Wiki that one could download and use in the Scratch 3.0 Preview.{{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 05:41, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|:::::::}}Wiki is not file-hosting website {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 06:17, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:If it's 3.0 you're specifically worried about, use some other file-sharing website. 3.0 projects can't be shared ''yet'', but IIRC a 3.0 project page is already on its way. Have patience.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:54, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Suggestion: [[Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]] ==
 
 
It's as it says on the tin.
 
 
As part of this new revival of featured images (and leading on from [[#An Interval for Featured Images]], I propose that we create a page similar in concept to [[S:WWS]], where users leave new section saying which image they think deserve to be featured. This will clean up the CP (just slightly). At around the same time as Wiki Wednesday, the EWs/Bureaucrats review the suggestions and pick three images which will then to onto [[S:FI]]. If necessary, we could also edit the current Wiki Wednesday suggestion forum post to incorporate Featured Images too.
 
 
What do you think?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:This is a great idea! '''+1!''' {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:23, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Yes!{{User:Millie S/signature}} 18:12, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Thank you! Any bits that need improving?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 18:26, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I think the featured images are too minor to have a dedicated projectspace page. I propose instead to have a miscellaneous "homepage tasks" page (or something like that) where you can suggest news items, featured images, and edits to other things that appear on the homepage. Does that sound better?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 19:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::good idea{{User:Millie S/signature}} 19:53, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Nice idea, {{done|support}}{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 21:46, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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@Ken won't a homepage tasks page just get cluttered up? If they had to filter through edits and news items to find featured images, wouldn't it be harder for the admins? Also, having a dedicated project space is better because it's a) more obvious to Wiki Editors what the page is for, and seems less boring and gruelling than "homepage tasks", which sounds like just a big long list of stuff to do. And b) it would be easier for editors to suggest, because having a clearer Featured Image Suggestions would be more obvious to others what has already been suggested and what hasn't, et cetera. And c) having a dedicated page would make it so much easier to implement into the current WW forum post.{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 08:49, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:We could have [[Scratch Wiki:Homepage Tasks]] and have there be a section for featured images, news things, and any other sections that may be needed. Then it wouldn't be as messy (if there were sections). Then we could make a shortcut called [[S:FEATUREDIMAGESUGGESTIONS]] (although that's a pretty long "shortcut") and have it redirect to [[Scratch Wiki:Homepage Tasks#Featured Image Suggestions]]. Or we could have [[Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]] redirect to [[Scratch Wiki:Homepage Tasks#Featured Image Suggestions]]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:32, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::If we're talking about shortcuts, how about [[S:FIS]], since [[S:FI]] redirects to the featured images?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 08:44, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Yeah, that'd probably be good. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:33, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Server Capacity ==
 
 
About two weeks ago, I could not access <code>scratch-wiki.info</code> for 24 hours. My internet connection was fine; the website just took too long to respond.
 
 
Today, when trying to view [[/Archive 66]], I got a 503 Service Unavailable error. I reloaded the page and it worked. However, page load times are still a bit long. Occasionally, after about 50 page loads, the page load times start to get really long, up to ten seconds.
 
 
Does MartinWollenweber's server have enough capacity? {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 16:44, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
: I think yes :-), but keep watching, if there are such kind of problems more often, I have to talk to our provider. It could help to create a list of such ocurannces to analyse it better. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 22:02, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 
=== Logging server faults ===
 
 
Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 
Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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* https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487988142184595478/Screen_Shot_2018-09-08_at_10.10.22_AM.png
 
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* https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487987425193492492/Screen_Shot_2018-09-08_at_10.07.28_AM.png
 
* https://pastebin.com/jkxGm6P4 <- this is the most useful error
 
* https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487988331226071060/unknown.png
 
* https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487989244506144775/unknown.png
 
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* https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/488005028028874754/unknown.png
 
 
Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 
Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 
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:Could we have a dedicated page to that?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Nah, just here is fine.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::{{not done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== The Main Page is broken ==
 
I found that [[Scratch Wiki Home]] is broken, as the featured image and featured article are on top of each other. Can a bureaucrat please fix that? {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 21:41, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:Can't repro on Windows 7, Firefox 61.0.2 {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 23:15, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Cannot reproduce on Windows 10, Chrome 68. For your information, the main page is {{PROTECTIONLEVEL:edit|Scratch Wiki Home}}-protected, so admins can edit it too.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:14, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::It doesn't happen on iOS 11.4.1 Safari.{{User:Millie S/signature}} 01:37, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I'm on Windows 10 Chrome 68 with a 1080p screen and I have it. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 01:48, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Okay, I'm also win10 chrome68, so could you post your exact version numbers? Here's mine: Windows 10.0.17134.228 Chrome 68.0.3440.106 Screen resolution 1536x864 (actually 1920x1080 but magnified 125% so I can see things){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:57, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::@CrazyBoy Reproducible, using 68.0.3440.106 (Official Build) (64-bit) on Windows 10, Vector skin. From what I can tell, it's a problem just with Vector, which no updates are going to be made for that skin because it's a risk you wish to take when using the skin. Ken wishes to focus on updating the page if there's an issue with his own skin, SWS. Also, please provide your skin, browser, browser version, operating system (and build may help, if using Windows, press the Windows key and R at once and enter winver. It should be there) and resolution when reporting styling glitches.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 15:18, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
I'm not ignoring issues with Vector because it's not ''my'' skin; they're not as important because anonymous users don't use Vector and can't set it to that. Styling problems mostly only require operating system and browser versions; occasionally resolution is also important.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:09, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:Okay, I've tweaked the widths of the scratchwikiframes, which for me on Vector (same browser and resolution specs) doesn't cause the Featured Images box to block the FA and TSW boxes. Does it work for y'all as well?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:19, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::No fix.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 11:32, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Drunken_Sailor contributed a fix, does it work for y'all Vector users now?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:18, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
== Compliment Tuesday! August 21th 2018 ==
 
 
Welcome to the 10{{th}} Compliment Tuesday! August 21{{th}} 2018.
 
 
'''What is Compliment Tuesday?'''
 
 
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! {{e|:)}}
 
 
'''How to Compliment'''
 
 
We have a whole wiki page on it! {{e|:D}} You can find it here: [[Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday|Compliment Tuesday]]
 
 
 
'''Compliments'''
 
 
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
 
 
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| "Service Unavailable Error [...]<br/>503 Service Unavailable Error"<br/>"508 Resource Limit Reached"
* Thanks for being such an active EW - especially handling account requests when I'm not online :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:59, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
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| Trying to enter my talk, kept refreshing until worked, came to CP to log fault. Errors repeated until worked. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
* Thanks for always being active on the wiki and for participating in Compliment Tuesday as far as I can remember - you really made my day last Tuesday! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  09:42, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Hey my dude ({{S|:P}}). You're a friendly wikian who deletes pages that need to be deleted, and more importantly, you aim to update pages to follow [[S:STYLE]], which is a massive help to everyone. <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 15:23, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you from being so active and helpful on the wiki! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:21, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
 
 
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| Fatal exception of type DBQueryError
* Thanks for thinking of [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles]]! I like the idea, and I've certainly had fun trying to fix template problems on a prefix index again :P{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:59, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
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| I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|jvvg}}
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| 508 Resource Limit Reached
* Thanks for doing so much for the Wiki after supposedly retiring! ;) Especially running WikiMonitor, that's really helpful :D{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:59, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
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| Trying to go to [[How to Make a Typewriter Effect]]. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
* Literally everone says this, but I can't thank you enough for running WikiMonitor - I wouldn'tve learnt how to add categories and sign my messages! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}} 09:42, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
 
 
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| HTTP error: error
* Thanks for always being so active and helpful on the wiki! I love your creativity with wiki signatures, navigation bars etc! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  09:42, 19 August 2018 (UTC)  
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| Clicked the ''Show preview'' button while editing [[User:TenType/Header]], when it did not preview and received the error. Clicking the button again resolved the issue. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
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| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."
* Thanks for being so active recently and for welcoming so many new wikians! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  09:42, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
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| Literally attempted to access en.scratch-wiki.info and a few other pages, when I received this:
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<big>'''Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.'''</big><br/>Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.<br/><small>(Cannot access the database)</small>
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:You can try searching via Google in the meantime.
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:<small>Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.</small><br/>
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Waited for like 10 minutes while reloading and the error finally cleared.
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<scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 07:17, 25 June 2019 (HKT)
 
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:Could we have a dedicated page to that?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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::Nah, just here is fine.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
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:::{{not done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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::::If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. <small>(archives)</small> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Not too many right now.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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::::::{{not done|Never done!}} Server faults will always come. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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::::::Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|::::::}}
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It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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:Do we not have [[Scratch_Wiki:Known_Bugs|this?]]{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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::Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).
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::Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
  
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== Articles to update for 3.0 ==
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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{{not done|Won't be done for a long time}}
 
 
The next CT is August 28{{th}} 2018! See you then!
 
 
 
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:07, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:{{done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:15, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::{{cool|Great}} {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:10, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Other Language Tutorials ==
 
{{not done}}
 
 
 
Ken and I have agreed that there is a lot of potential in creating tutorials in other programming languages which compare the syntax of that language to Scratch. We are roughly aiming for ten tutorials per language at the start of this tutorial. The pages could possibly receive a bar at the end of the front page (i.e. a try this out bar). We were thinking of having Python (3), C++, C#, C, Ruby, Java, PHP, JavaScript and we are looking for more suggestions. The suggested page hierarchy is (Programming Language)/(Tutorial Name) <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 15:16, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:I think that is a great idea! I would be happy to work on pyhton and HTML ones. :) <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:20, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Sounds like a great idea! Will really expand the Wiki in activity, who we cater for, and our exposure across the web. :){{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:31, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Cool! I think we definitely need Python and Ruby ones, since Python and Ruby are known as "beginner languages," and may be good typing languages to start with after Scratch. I could help with the Ruby one! Another idea is [https://golang.org Go/Golang]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:49, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I think this would be a perfect use case for a SWP! I'm going to move my userspace template to a real template now, and use it here. {{doing}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 00:45, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::{{cool|Great}} {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:00, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|:::::}}
 
{{:Language Tutorials/project}}
 
Please visit the project talk page (linked above) to claim a language to write a tutorial in!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:37, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== I forgot to mention: We have syntax highlighting now! ==
 
 
 
I installed [[:mw:Extension:SyntaxHighlight|SyntaxHighlight]] a few days ago, and I forgot to tell you about it. This will come in handy for the [[Language Tutorials]].
 
 
 
;Usage
 
<pre><syntaxhighlight lang="python3">import random
 
print(random.randint(1, 5))</syntaxhighlight></pre>
 
yields
 
<syntaxhighlight lang="python3">import random
 
print(random.randint(1, 5))</syntaxhighlight>
 
and
 
<pre>Hello, <syntaxhighlight lang="javascript" inline>"world"</syntaxhighlight>!</pre>
 
yields
 
 
 
Hello, <syntaxhighlight lang="javascript" inline>"world"</syntaxhighlight>!
 
 
 
If the &lt;pre&gt; tag is being used for code, replace it with &lt;syntaxhighlight&gt;. Replace &lt;code&gt; tags with inline syntaxhighlight tags.
 
 
 
Enjoy!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:38, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:Awesome! <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:16, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::{{cool}} Yes, very useful. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:44, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Awesome!{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 07:52, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::FYI: If you are tired of typing such a long word, you can also use <nowiki><source></nowiki>! You can save 9 letters. --{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 12:08, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::NO, DO NOT! &lt;source&gt; is '''deprecated''' and should not be used!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:10, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== How do I become Admin, Experienced Wikian ect. ==
 
 
 
I want to help the wiki! Can you give insturctions on how to?
 
<scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 03:38, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:Experienced Wikians are [[Scratch Wiki:Elections|elected]]. Admins are sometimes promoted from EW during elections. Bureaucrats are appointed by current bureaucrats.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:54, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::{{Done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 14:18, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Well, there a no more rooms for EW or admin, but how to be chosen by a Bureaucrats? <scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 08:27, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 
{{Not done|Undone}}
 
<scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 08:30, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:Please do not edit other people's messages. People's messages are considered part of their [[S:USERSPACE|userspace]], which is to remain inviolate.
 
:As to your question, there are likely not going to be any new bureaucrats, as EWs do their current jobs well and bureaucrats mainly exist to transfer privileges, block users, and anything else unique to the usergroup that you can find in [[Special:ListGroupRights]].
 
:Essentially, there are not going to be any new bureaucrats for a loooong while.
 
:Please post any new questions as a separate topic. {{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:46, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== New Featured Images Suggestions ==
 
  
Soon it is going to be Wiki Wednesday, and time to change the featured images!{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 07:53, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
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Hello everyone, it's already January 2nd for me, so I figure I might as well get the preparations started.
:Indeed - I don't have any pre-chosen ones, so please suggest some :P{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:57, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Ok i am posting this as you yourself said anyone can remind about featured images.{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 07:58, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Indeed I did, and thank you for the reminder.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:59, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::[[:File:Scratch 3.0 Comment Programming.PNG]]<br/>[[File:Scratch 3.0 Comment Programming.PNG]]{{User:Millie S/signature}} 14:05, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::{{cool}} Does anyone have any other suggestions? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:45, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::[[:File:Gobo from behind.png]]<br/>[[File:Gobo from behind.png]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::: I was going to suggest that ken :P <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:10, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|7}}Changed them! Sorry for the wait xd<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:54, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:{{done}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:54, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Compliment Tuesday! August 28th 2018 ==
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=== Observations/Edit Guidance ===
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Pages outdated upon 3.0 release are incredibly numerous. In most cases, one or more of the following edits can or should happen:
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* Parts that talk about ''3.0 features'' in ''future tense'' (e.g. "there will be a new paint editor") should be changed to use ''present tense'' (e.g. "there is a new paint editor") or ''past tense'' (e.g. "a new paint editor was introduced")
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* Parts that talk about ''3.0 changes'' in ''future tense'' (e.g. "the editor will be moved to the right side") should be changed to use ''past tense'' (e.g. "the editor was moved to the right side")
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* Parts that mention ''dates'' in ''any tense'' should have their tense ''updated'' (e.g. "the official release will be January 2019" -> "the official release was January 2019")
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* Parts that talk about ''2.0 features'' in ''any tense'' (e.g. "the paint editor has these features") should be changed to use ''past tense'' (e.g. "the paint editor had these features")
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* Parts that talk about ''2.0 changes'' in ''any tense'' (e.g. "the editor was moved to the left") should all be changed to ''past tense'' if they haven't already.
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* Take this opportunity to update things that weren't changed from 1.4 days as well.
  
Welcome to the 11{{th}} Compliment Tuesday! August 28{{th}} 2018.
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=== Progress ===
  
'''What is Compliment Tuesday?'''
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Here is a list of articles that need to be updated (on their real versions in mainspace) upon the release of 3.0. You can probably already start updating them now. Articles marked with an asterisk (*) have updates available at [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles]]/the article title, but:
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{{warning|do not copy articles directly from their 3.0 versions!}}
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Though in most cases the information will be correctly updated, make sure to use your own judgement as to its accuracy.
  
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! {{e|:)}}
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{{note|Some of the articles listed below need to be created.}}
  
'''How to Compliment'''
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Feel free to update this list yourself. Add any articles that you discover that need updates; remove articles that have been updated.
  
We have a whole wiki page on it! {{e|:D}} You can find it here: [[Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday|Compliment Tuesday]]
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* Blocks
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* Change () Effect by () (sound block)
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* Development of Scratch 3.0
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* Project
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* File:Name bar.png
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* File:Offline Editor Share Icon.png
  
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=== Remember to take this opportunity to ''clean up'' articles as well as update them! ===
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==== Fix typography or other writing issues as you come across them ====
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We don't want to have to make a second sweep to clean up all the weird grammar from tense changes. Remember to fix the grammar and spelling of the articles ''as a whole'' while you update them.
  
'''Compliments'''
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==== Ask for help when you need it ====
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If a page or redirect needs to be deleted or you need some other admin action, leave a message at [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests]]. If you don't specifically need admin actions, you can ask anyone you think would know the answer to your question.
  
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
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=== Here's to a good 3.0 release! ===
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[[File:Hooray.png]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:40, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
  
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:Oh I thought a bot would do it :P also are we saving old articles, for example Block Plugin(2.0)?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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::I thought we were moving 2.0 to a different place and 3.0 to where 2.0 used to be. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 16:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::Removed some articles from the list :)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
! Compliments
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::::Should [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Front Page (2.0)]] be updated? It's so similar to [[Front Page]], that it seems redundant to create a new page.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::::I noticed that many of the things needed to be changed were the same in 2.0 and 3.0. What should we do? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
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:::::[[S:STYLE#no-ext-wikilinks|Please don't externally link to Wiki pages!]] And [[S:STYLE#no-link-underscores|please don't use underscores in links]].
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:::::I'm pretty sure it's the pictures that need updating. Would you mind adding all the files on that page that need updating to the [[#Progress]] list?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
* Thanks for everything you do {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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::::::Nothing has changed between 2.0 to 3.0 in Front Page, Messages, Discuss, Profiles. (Maybe more but these are all I've been to). The Project page and project editor are the only ones that have. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
* Thank you for making Scratch Wiki Projects an actual thing now! I'm excited! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:07, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
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:::::::The front page has changed, they've just been using the 3.0 skin for a while. Notice how the top bar is bright blue there and on project pages but a darker blue in discuss and the profiles as well as studios. Messages have also been at the 3.0 skin for a while. My stuff (and everything in it, like trash) has not been updated either. <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig> 02:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
* Thanks for installing SyntaxHighlight!{{User:Millie S/signature}} 13:59, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
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::::::::Also I think "Images of stuff in 2.0 should be updated to 3.0." should be included.  {{#ifeq:|nobr|<br/>|}}[[File:VFDan.png|20px|link=User:VFDan]]{{nbsp}}{{link style|User:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=VFDan}}{{nbsp}}<span style="border: 2px solid cyan; border-radius:1px 0 0 10px">{{nbsp}}{{link style|User talk:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Talk}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;">{{nbsp}}{{link style|Special:Contributions/VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Contribs}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;border-radius:0px 10px 1px 0px">{{nbsp}}<span class="plainlinks">{{User:12944qwerty/CPL|link=https://scratch.mit.edu/users/VFDan|text=On Scratch&nbsp;|color:orange;font-weight:bold}}</span></span> 22:03, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
* You are crazy helpful! Thank you! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:39, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Asqwde}}
 
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* Thanks for suggesting the [[Scratch Wiki:Community Portal/Scratch Wiki News|Scratch Wiki News]] page {{-}} it was a great idea and I'm glad we put it into effect! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* You come up with great ideas to help the wiki! Thanks! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:39, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Jakel181}}
 
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* Thank you for doing Compliment Tuesday and everything else you do for the wiki! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for Compliment Tuesday!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:13, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for running CT!  {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 08:22, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Apple502j}}
 
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* Thanks for being helpful on this wiki a lot and for being an admin on the Japanese one! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you for being such an active admin on the jawiki! And your edits here are quite helpful as well :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:13, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for helping out on the wikis! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:39, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|MartinWollenweber}}
 
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* Thanks for everything you do for the Scratch Wikis in general! You're amazing! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for looking at my mobile design work so quickly 0.0{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:13, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for maintaining the wikis {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 08:22, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you for hosting the wikis :D{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:00, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* The wiki wouldn't be possible without you! Thanks! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:39, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|CrazyBoy826}}
 
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* Thanks for being a helpful Wikian! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Good job on being so active{{unsigned|asqwde}}
 
* You are super-duper active! {{e|:D}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:39, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Redglitter}}
 
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* Thank you for being very helpful ''and'' active on the wiki! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* You are extremely helpful! Thank you! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:39, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Banana439monkey}}
 
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* Thanks for welcoming people! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for sticking around all these year! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:39, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Makethebrainhappy}}
 
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* Thank you for being helpful on the wiki, and also writing posts for Wiki Wednesday! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for writing WW! {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 08:22, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for the [[Language Tutorials]] idea!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:00, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for ''hosting'' WW!<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:39, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|LiFaytheGoblin}}
 
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* Thank you for ''posting'' the Wiki Wednesday posts, and for, as a Scratch Team member, coming on the wiki from time to time! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:25, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you for devoting your Sunday this week to reviewing my work, even though you're in the U.S. and probably have a lot of work to do!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:13, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for ''posting'' WW!<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:39, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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== List of deleted pages ==
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
 
 
 
The next CT is September 4{{th}} 2018! See you then!
 
 
 
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:44, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:{{done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:44, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Edited post with retroactive permission{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:28, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== News Entry ==
 
 
 
;August 28, 2018 {{-}} New Scratch Design Studio {{-}} Time Travel
 
 
:The Scratch Team has released a new [[Scratch Design Studio]]! Its description states:
 
 
 
::"In this SDS, create a project about something that can happen when you travel through time."{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 13:48, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::wrong title lol {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 14:37, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::fixed,thanks {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 14:45, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::The SDS currently (at least for me) appears to be "Symmetry." I (or someone else) will update it once the new one appears on the front page.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 01:24, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::{{waiting}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:32, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::::The studio has been released; we just do not have enough seed projects to put it onto the front page. :) <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 14:00, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::::Once it is live then it will be put on the news. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 19:20, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|8}}{{done}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:05, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== not done archive ==
 
 
 
some not done posts are done now - should we dedicate an archive for it? I think it might be a good idea. <br/>
 
{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}}  17:46, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:You're a little late - there have been a bunch of not done posts before. I've just been adding them to the most recent archive whenever we archive. For example, once the main CP reaches 125K bytes this time, any done topics here ''and'' any done topics in Not Done will be moved to archive 102.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:02, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::i figured. thanks. {{done}}
 
::{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}}  23:06, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Community Blocks Page ==
 
{{done}}
 
I'm suggesting a page on the removed Community Blocks. [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/304815/?page=2#post-3207345 Here is a topic on it from the Discussion Forums, if you're curious.] Not much information is known but I think we could scrape together enough for a decent length page or a stub at least.<scratchsig>--_Nova_--</scratchsig> 12:06, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
 
: I think it's really interesting - I'd be happy to work on creating a decent length page for it in my sandbox. {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  07:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:: I've created a page in my userspace. Feel free to add more: [[User:Redglitter/Community_Blocks]] {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  10:08, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I don't know much about the forum, not being a person who can access it. I'll help out with tweaks.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:13, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I don't know much either, but if you need any help feel free to ask me! {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 11:37, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::: Thanks everyone! I'm going to search around for more info. {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  17:26, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::{{done|[[Community Blocks (forum)|Created]]}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:45, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Wiki News Update ==
 
 
 
Hi, can an EW out the latest CT on wiki news? Thanks {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 21:56, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:{{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:21, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Community Blocks Page in my Userspace ==
 
 
{{not done}}
 
{{not done}}
  
Hey everyone! Following the discussion ^^ up there, I need some help on my community blocks page - [[Community Blocks (forum)]]. If anyone could help I'd be really grateful! Thanks! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  15:51, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
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(Brought up here after discussion [[User talk:Jammum#About your Deleted Pages page|here]].)
:I'd say that although it's small, it's big enough to be moved to the mainspace {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:46, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::<small>(edited OP link)</small> I've moved it to mainspace now, so contribute to it there :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:44, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Added Not Done to topic.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:45, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Changing minor edit box to major edit ==
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So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:
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* [[User:Mathfreak231/Deleted pages recovery|Mathfreak231's]], which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
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* [[User:kenny2scratch/Deleted pages recovery|Mine]], which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
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* [[User:Jammum/Deleted Pages|Jammum's Deleted Pages]], which are more recent than either of the above
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* [[User:Jammum/All Pages That Have Been Deleted|Jammum's All Deleted Pages]], which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)
  
All those times when you forget to click the minor edit box... Most of the edits on the wiki are major edits. So why not have the minor edit box already ticked and if it is a major edit untick it, or change the minor edit box to a major edit box. If you look at RC most nearly all edits are minor so that is why i am suggesting this change {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 12:59, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
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I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]].
:Ahem! There is a user preference in [[Special:Preferences]] that will do exactly that - check the minor edit box by default. I don't think everyone should be making minor edits by default (especially newer users - on Wikipedia anonymous users can't even make minor edits at all!). If you think your own edits will be minor by default, set your [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|preferences]] that way (check the "Mark minor edits by default" box).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:40, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::Ok thanks for pointing that out. {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 14:51, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::{{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:02, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Footer link now links to en.scratch-wiki.info! ==
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;Advantages
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* More organized
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* One place for all
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* Can be updated by anyone
  
The footer link on the scratch website now links to en.scratch-wiki.info where previously it would link to wiki.scratch .mit.eu and redirect here!{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 06:06, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
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;Disadvantages
:Ayy finally! But scratch-lang.info links aren't clickable in comments yet... :({{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
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:''None I can think of off the top of my head''
:: :( {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:40, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::: Only on the new skin! The old one dosen't. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 21:29, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 14:17, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Compliment Wednesday! September 12{{th}} 2018 ==
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Thoughts? Shall we do it?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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:I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::+1 :) {{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::: Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?  <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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::::: I think the page will not be notable enough to go there. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::::I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]]. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}I say aye.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
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:@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
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:: Are we going to do this? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::Okay, I just created a page called [[User:TenType/Deleted Files]], was scrolling through the Community Portal, and found this discussion. {{e|:/}} <br/> Maybe this page could contain pages only and not files? (I really spent a lot of time and effort onto my deleted files page) Anyways, still waiting for a response on whether or not this project will be started. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
  
Welcome to the 2{{nd}} Compliment Wednesday! September 12{{th}} 2018.
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== “Secret” Compliments  ==
  
'''What is Compliment Tuesday?'''
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We all know Compliment Tuesday. To suggest compliments we have the [[S:CT]] page. It’s a great way to compliment people, but could be even better.
  
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! {{e|:)}}
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Right now you suggest a compliment, everyone who wants to including the person who was complimented can see it and get posted on CP.  
  
'''How to Compliment'''
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So I thought that’s good but you do let look forward to the CP post because you know if you have been complimented.
  
We have a whole wiki page on it! {{e|:D}} You can find it here: [[Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday|Compliment Tuesday]]
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I propose proposing compliments on a way no-one else can see apart from the organizer(s). This can be achieved by a Google Form.
  
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Proposed new method:
  
'''Compliments'''
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* Users suggest compliments on Google Form entering all details as they would before
  
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
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* End of the month (organizer)s have admin access to the form and gather responses
  
{| class="wikitable" width="100%"
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* Posted in CP
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! User
 
! Compliments
 
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| {{user|Kenny2scratch}}
 
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* You have taught me how to add wiki links and taught me other useful things I need to know about the wiki. Thanks. <scratchsig>16itople1</scratchsig> 15:10, 28 August 2018 (UTC)16itople1
 
* Thank you for helping me with my Community Blocks page and moving it to the mainspace for me! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  10:58, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
|-
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This way:
| {{user|16itople1}}
 
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* You're always there to complement someone...<scratchsig>Logabe</scratchsig> 21:28, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for making so many helpful edits recently! {{E|:D}} {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  10:58, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for learning quickly and making helpful edits!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:29, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
|{{user|asqwde}}
 
|
 
* Thanks for always helping out and welcoming new users! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  10:58, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
|-
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* Users will look forward to see compliments received and not seeing anytime of the month
|{{user|Bigpuppy}}
 
|
 
* Thanks for being such an friendly, active and helpful EW! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  10:58, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for being my day shift :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:29, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
|{{user|jvvg}}
 
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* Thanks for being really helpful on the Scratch Wiki! {{E|:)}}  {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  10:58, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
|-
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* People will be more encouraged by the compliments
| {{user|Logabe}}
 
|
 
* Thanks for the compliment! <scratchsig>16itople1</scratchsig> 16:53, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Redglitter}}
 
|
 
* Thanks for acknowledging my work! <scratchsig>16itople1</scratchsig> 16:53, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
 
* Complimenting so many people{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 18:38, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for bringing up the Community Blocks forum! I never knew it existed and I certainly wouldn't have found out without your help :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:29, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for offering to help out! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:43, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|makethebrainhappy}}
 
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* Being such a kind wikian{{User:Asqwde/sig}}
 
|-
 
| {{user|--_Nova_--}}
 
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* Thanks for suggesting [[Community Blocks]]! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  07:56, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
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Ideas?{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 07:28, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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:There are pros and cons to this... on one hand, people will be less self-conscious about complimenting if nobody knows it's them, but on the other hand some compliments either don't make sense if you don't know who it is or imply on their own who the person complimenting is. I do like the idea of looking forward to compliments rather than seeing them immediately, but the con to that is people might be disappointed if CT doesn't come out at the end of the month due to not enough people complimenting...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:39, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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::I'm on board with this. I still would like to keep the non-secret compliments as a second option if we go about this. The main problem would be moderation. With anonymity, there is more of a chance that something mean would come out of it. An unwritten policy of CT is, if I see a disrespectful "compliment" it won't be included. If we were to use a google forum, we would have to have some way of knowing who compliment who, we can't just ask for a username since we can't verify it wasn't an impostor. Any ideas how to go about this?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:48, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::Perhaps (again) an extension? Special:ComplimentTuesday sounds like an interesting idea...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::Guess who forked your report extension ;) (or possibly Special:ThankfulThursday :P)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::+1 for a Special: page where compliments can be submitted and a way of suggesting public compliments{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 16:23, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|5}}
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But also,Scratch and Scratch Wiki are growing up with "Imagine, Program, Share".[[Frequently Rejected Suggestions#Private Messaging|Here]]'s an rejected example suggestion:{{quote|Private Messaging
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When communication is public, people are more likely to be respectful because they know that everyone can see it. However, when posting PMs, people know that only the intended recipient can see it, so do not think as much before posting. Even if a "Flag PM" function is implemented, the Scratch Team currently does not have the resources to moderate it, because of the reason said before there would be a lot of inappropriate/disrespectful messages.|Scratch Team}} Also,we can see other's compliments(Google Forms give this in finish of the form,right?).
  
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Shortly:
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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*It's a bad idea because...
  
The next CT is September 18{{th}} 2018! See you then!
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:*It means a lot of disrespectful or other bad messages
  
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 21:30, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
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:*I have some questions about Google Forms security
:{{done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 21:30, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Danger Tempalate ==
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:*Also, we'll need a lot code(if we'll use the Wiki for this)
  
A danger template will be good. This means that if you peform this action, you could cause a disabilty or go to jail etc. It will look like {{note|{{#if:{{{1|}}}|'''{{{1}}}'''}}|{{{2|Danger}}}|img=Danger.png}}. What do you think? <scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 05:12, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
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:*And,we and Scratch Team have some notes about private messaging
:I believe there is a template with an image like that, but I forget the name. You can set the parameter to Danger, for the template to say Danger, I believe.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 07:15, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::{{t|warning|text}} -> {{warning|text}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:17, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Hmm...  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 07:17, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Wow you two edit conflicted me so I neee to retune my reply. We already have {{caution}} and what would the use of such a template be? {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 07:19, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::How could following a scratch coding tutorial online cause a disability or send you to jail?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 08:10, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::{{done}}? (seems rejected {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 14:18, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Some images are at risk of copyright legal issues, as Germany has different copyright laws than the US. If the host is moved again, those images could potentially be illegal. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 17:45, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Protection ==
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:*If we'll try to check all of messages,it'll mean more time and more work
  
Like Wikipedia, the Scratch Wiki should have locking.
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:*Anonymous and fake users have a big problem(in Google Forms)
Full protection prevents editing by everyone except admins and EWs. Fully protected media files cannot be overwritten by new uploads.
 
Semi-protection prevents editing by New Wikans
 
Creation protection prevents a page (normally a previously deleted one) from being recreated.
 
Move protection protects the page solely from moving (renaming).
 
Upload protection prevents new versions of a file from being uploaded except by admins and EWs, but it does not prevent editing the file's description page.
 
Pending-changes protection means edits by unregistered and new contributors are not visible to readers until the edits are approved by an admin or EW.
 
Extended confirmed protection, also known as 30/500 protection prevents editing by users without three months and 500 edits on the English Wiki.
 
What do you think?
 
<scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 04:23, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:Correct me if I'm wrong, but we can already protect pages. I'm pretty sure that since our wiki is hosted by MediaWiki ''(?)'' we either can already do it or can but we're not using that features. I'd ask an admin or EW for more help on this one. {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  07:12, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::This wiki indeed uses MediaWiki (we're not hosted by Wikimedia, but we use their software), so we already have full, semi, creation, move, and upload protection (though with different implications), and we don't intend to add pending-changes protection or extended confirmed protection. {{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:34, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::For newer wikians, we'll need to tell them where and where not you can edit. <scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 02:07, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::It'll be obvious whether you can edit when you try to edit - if you can't edit it, you will not be able to type anything.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:46, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Lets just say a totally new wikian just is trying to edit protected pages. They think it's a bug. It's not. They report it on the CP. See? <scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 08:37, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Then too bad, they obviously have never encountered protection before so we'll just have to explain it to them. Seriously, the message stating your inability to edit is pretty clear - "The page has been protected to prevent editing and other actions."{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:58, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Thinking Templates ==
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<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 20:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
  
I have template ideas.
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::I would generally discourage the use of google forms for this kind of project given that you are seeking input from the entire community. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:33, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
All Green check marks, Cross marks, Others, Black check marks, Yellow check marks, Blue check marks, Minus signs, Plus signs, Neutral sign, Purple turn-right, Simple clock, Clock, Note marks, Exclamation, Bulb, Smile and Thumbs Sign Templates. [[wikipedia:Template:Duck|Here is some info.]]
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:::I also disagree with using Google Forms because fake or anonymous users could abuse the feature. However, maybe Special:ComplimentTuesday could be the way to go... <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
<scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 08:26, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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::::Google Forms are out by multiple Community and Wiki G/guidelines. A special page is the way to go. @Ahmetlii: If we're using a special page, problems solved include:
:{{t|done}}, {{t|not done}}, {{t|waiting}} available
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::::* <s>It means a lot of disrespectful or other bad messages</s>
:what about {{done|rejected}}? {{t|done|rejected}}
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:::::Compliments would be reviewed before being shown. Inappropriate messages are vandalism and would be treated as such. {{done|Solved}}
:No support for CU - we do not CU by request
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::::* <s>I have some questions about Google Forms security</s>
:No support for block-related template - we do not make blocks info public
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:::::No Google Forms. {{done|Solved}}
:[[:ja:Template:D|Japanese wiki's one (example)]] {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:18, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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::::* <s>Also, we'll need a lot code(if we'll use the Wiki for this)</s>
::None of these are necessary. One more time, [[S:NOTWP|we are not Wikipedia]].{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:26, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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:::::Not a problem for me, it'll be fun! {{e|:)}} {{done|Solved}}
:::time to use {{done|Rejected}} {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 12:44, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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::::* <s>And,we and Scratch Team have some notes about private messaging</s>
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:::::Compliments are shown to everyone - only who submitted the compliment is hidden. Not private messaging. {{done|Solved}}
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::::* <s>If we'll try to check all of messages,it'll mean more time and more work</s>
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:::::Not very much more, and @jakel181 has been doing a great job on CT so far, I'm sure he wouldn't mind looking through the compliments before he posts them.
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::::* <s>Anonymous and fake users have a big problem(in Google Forms)</s>
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:::::Not with a special page! {{done|Solved}}
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::::I think a special page is definitely the way to go. I believe the following are the only questions to really consider:
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::::* Do we actually want compliments to be hidden from everyone (except the organizer and the submitter) until they are posted?
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::::** If so, who do we want to review the compliments so that nothing is inappropriate?
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::::* Do we actually want to allow anonymous compliments? (Note: This and the previous question are two separate questions - the answer to one does not imply any answer to the other.)
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::::** If we do want to allow anonymous compliments, we will have to still also allow onymous compliments - people can just include their names in their compliments.
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::::This concludes my post.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:33, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::I think we should allow EW/Admins/Bureaucrats see in some fashion. (Maybe not all but a couple)<br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 12:54, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|5}}
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* Do we actually want compliments to be hidden from everyone (except the organizer and the submitter) until they are posted? -Yes, they are. (I don't need it :P)
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** If so, who do we want to review the compliments so that nothing is inappropriate? -It's named as "be shy" :)
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* Do we actually want to allow anonymous compliments? (Note: This and the previous question are two separate questions - the answer to one does not imply any answer to the other.)
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-No, we don't because S:JOIN-if somebody want to send a message, they must join and login to the Wiki.
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** If we do want to allow anonymous compliments, we will have to still also allow onymous compliments - people can just include their names in their compliments.
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-They can use Scratch profiles to send a message - it's only a Wiki about Scratch.
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<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 17:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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:{{not done|No clear resolution}}{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 22:35, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  
== Split the Paint Article  ==
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== Welcome templates ==
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{{not done|Limit not yet negotiated}}
  
I was browsing the wiki and noticed that the Paint editor article ([[Paint Editor|here]]) is '''really''' long and could possibly be split up into three different articles: History of the paint editor, 2.0 Bitmap Paint editor, and 2.0 Vector Paint Editor. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
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A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:
:It is kinda long, but so is the CP, and do we split this? I realize it's not exactly the same thing, but it's not long enough to truly need splitting.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:03, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::in Japanese wiki, we ''did'' split it. At that time, "Types of Graphics", "Bitmap Editor", "Vector Editor", "Bitmap and Vector Comparison", "Paint Editor Conversion", "Interaction With Other Programs", "Example Uses", and "Alternatives" section is kept. Others are moved to version subpages, such as [[Paint Editor (2.0)]]. Guess what will happen next January here, without the change.
 
::By the way, block workaround page is enough big to split, too, I think. It will be good for performance issues. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 08:24, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Can you make another wiki? ==
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[[File:That's a lot of welcomes.PNG]]
  
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10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?
  
Please. I want a wiki. Can someone please make a MediaWiki Wiki for me?
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To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.
<scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 08:51, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:We do not make new wikis lightly, and new wikis are only for different languages. Assuming you want to make a language wiki, please request an account on the [[:tw:|Test Scratch Wiki]], following the account request process.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:14, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I want an [[User:Whatsfordinner77/Enis|Enis]] wiki. I do not know how to make a wiki. <scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 20:24, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::On this wiki we don't make wikis (or pages) about user genrated content. If you wanted to make an Enis page then we can not do that,  If you really want a wiki for Enis I suggest you start off with Wikia as the first steps. :) <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:56, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::: I'm not using Wikia. Instead, I'm asking help on the ATs <scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 23:08, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::: Ok that is probally a better place for this conversation. {{done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 23:15, 19 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Category:BYOB Images ==
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I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
  
I was just looking through [[Special:Categories]] and the eigtheenth one that shows up is Category:BYOB Images. Back in August, CrazyBoy826 moved it to Category:Snap! Images. However, there are still pages categorised undder this category. The edit summary included: {{quote|The categorized pages will be fixed later}}
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:I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea {{E|:)}} I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
I have been tempted to fix all of these "categorised pages" for 24 hours now. Is it okay to do so? {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  08:14, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:No. Ask bot owners for such massive and simple edits. Ken is online now. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 12:47, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::{{done}} with [[B:TFTW|my bot]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:56, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I hoped I could move all the pages, but the Wiki is a big place, and there are many other things to do. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 17:39, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::The pages are still categorizezd as BYOB Images according to the [[Cataegory:BYOB Images|category page]], but on the pages under it and the source code of the page it says Snap Images. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 17:42, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::That's a known issue due to the way MediaWiki caches things. It should be fixed the next time maintenance is done.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:26, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::: Great, thanks everyone! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}} 16:29, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== A question no one thought of before ==
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::I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can {{e|:D}}? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::[[User talk:StampDanFan|It has happened again...]]{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different?? <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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:Can't we make a User_talk:ACCEPTEDUSER/Welcomes page?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 20:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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::That doesn't actually cause a ping tho...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::We could make it ping though if there is someone willing to mess with the code...{{User:Smileycreations15/sig}} 11:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
  
I was looking around the Wiki when suddenly I came up with a problem: what if a user coincidently shares the name of a bot (but not connected to it) and decides to come on the Wiki? This is a very unlikely situation, but if it happened, the whole wiki would be scrambling for ways to fix the problem. What should we do to fix this problem, if the need ever arises? {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 17:38, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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== Block Problems ==
:This was thought of! (But good question) Each bot has it's own scrtatch account. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:51, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
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{{Not done|Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken}}<br />
::lol, either they can add a number after their  name (eg. WM2) or change it.
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Today I started to finish up the script for [[How to Evaluate an Expression]], and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else {{-}} it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in ''Show preview'' mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/292813/ this forum topic]? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
::{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}}  11:21, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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:The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
:::Huh? Bot owners have to own the corresponding Scratch accounts, too. You're talking about an impossible situation.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:26, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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::You can use [https://scratchblocks.github.io this page].<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
::::Okay. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:00, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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:::Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
:::::{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 23:39, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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::::@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...
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::::@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
  
==Bots==
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== TinyPic is closing down ==
Hi! Does anyone know what these bots do? [[User:Tweaker]] [[User:bot807]]<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:01, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:No idea. I expect they are just bots that aren't in action anymore - they're not on the bots list. {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  16:13, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=bot <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:24, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Also is [[User:VoxBot]] still active? <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:26, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Periodically.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 17:48, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Ok just wondering as the day of It's last edit was the day of transfer. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:13, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Tweaker was a replacement for WikiMonitor while jvvg was away on holiday; Bot807 was created for the purpose of testing out bot accounts in general, I think. VoxBot is occasionally run, though not as frequently these days.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 00:52, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6.28}}{{done}}{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:57, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Userpages ==
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I'm not sure how many pages this messes up but you should all know that TinyPic is closing down :({{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 19:52, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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:Dang, could you name some examples of pages that use TinyPic? {{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 23:49, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
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::In case you don't know: Scratch Wiki has its own image hosting (Wiki server) and does not use TinyPic(or cubeupload or anything else) at all. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 03:11, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
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:::@1a3c5e7g9i I forget the names right now, but theres one about image hosting I know for sure.
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:::@Apple502j I know, but there are informational pages that will be incorrect.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 14:10, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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::::It looks like {{user|Jammum|name}} updated [[Image Hosting]]: see [[Special:Redirect/revision/231829]]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 14:58, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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::::: Oh my god I know (but I use cubeupload). So what should we do? <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 01:25, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::::: Simply put, update the pages that mention Tinypic to say that it's closing down (even though we should've already done that). {{User:1a3c5e7g9i/Signature}} 19:48, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}{{done|Problem Solved!}}{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 22:34, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
  
Recently, I've seen a few newer wikians without userpages. I know that generally when a new account is created, a userpage is created with it.  I don't know how to phrase this very well, but should I make a list of the users who don't have userpages, make them myself, or just leave it so they can create their own? Examples:
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== AF Link Proposal ==
Biran4454,
 
HR18K,
 
Cris524.
 
{{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  16:23, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:User pages are no longer created when a new account is created{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 19:21, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::They have to create them themselves as I think it is a userspace violation. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 19:23, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I would think so. <scratchsig>Purplewolves</scratchsig> 23:41, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Userpages being created automatically was a bug, not a feature. (Well, the extension treats it as a feature but since we don't use the "biography" section it's a bug.) After the transfer, with jvvg's new version of CA, we could finally turn off automatic userpage creation. Also for some people their userpages were created by Krett12 and his "NoRed" movement, but that was stopped quickly.
 
::::TL, DR: when a new account is created, it's not supposed to have a userpage. It's up to the user to visit their own userpage and find that it's not created. {{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 00:51, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::: Oh, okay! Thanks! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  08:40, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
==Category Suggestion==
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For April Fools pages, could we convert regular links in the page to the April Fools one instead, if possible?
Hello! I would like to suggest to add the category [[:Category:Uncategorized]]. Why you may ask? Well even though Wiki Monitor reminds you to categorize pages sometimes you forget to add it. A bot  (The one I am suggesting [[User:Jakel181/Sandbox/3#SemicoIon|here]])(Or WM) could add the [[:Category:Uncategorized]] category and wiki editors can easily find what pages need to be categorized. Thoughts? <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:36, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:{{done|Support}}{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 19:22, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::I disagree. There's a special page that lists all uncategorised pages.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 20:32, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::: Oh? Did not know about that. Link? <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 21:17, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::[[Special:SpecialPages]] - Uncategorized XX
 
::::And all pages in "uncategorized" category are categorized there, paradox{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 23:44, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::[[Special:UncategorizedPages]]; and as apple said, if you had a category for uncategorized pages it would then be categorized... anyway, the special page is all you need. {{done}}
 
:::::<small>also we have ''no'' uncategorized pages? OwO Well, I assume that special page only lists mainspace pages</small>{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 00:47, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Thanks and wow O.o <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:54, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::::Ty Jacob.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 13:55, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
 
  
==Bug==
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But we shouldn't go on a massive editing spree for this - only change the links if we stumble upon them or add new ones. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 16:17, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
This has been happing for awhile now but when I type the subject of a new post on one's talk or the CP, and click "save changes" It does not create an automatic heading any more, so I have to manually type <nowiki>==Heading==</nowiki>. Any idea why this is happing? <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:40, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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:I think that depends on the person that creates the page, but I think that April Fools pages aren't that huge of a deal to change every link, even if stumbled upon. Also, most pages don't have an alternate April Fools page to begin with. <br/>{{User:Jedibrine/Sig}} 05:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
:cannot repro {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 22:21, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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::Support.
::Are you sure it isn't your browser? I've had issues simlar to this using Fire Fox. <scratchsig>Purplewolves</scratchsig> 23:39, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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::{{User:Smileycreations15/sig}} 12:04, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
:::Are you using the "New topic" link in the pencil menu? And are you actually typing the subject in the subject box?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 00:48, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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:::@Jedibrine: Sorry, by "stumbling upon", I meant when we add/modify the contents of an AF page. I don't want too many edits of just converting links.
:::: Sometimes this happens to me, but not when on a talk or the CP. {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  08:41, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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:::Also, this will make AF pages more lively and humorous in a way. I myself have been disappointed in the past clicking on a link on an AF page, but found out that it led to a regular article.
::::: @Ken Yes I am using a new topic under the pencil and yes subject in the subject box. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:56, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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:::And even if there isn't an alternate AF page, so what? We could just add the regular link for now, and then when it gets created, we could change it. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 16:03, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::hmmst
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::::I thought that on April Fools Day, then if you clicked a link, it would lead to the April Fools version of that page if there is one...{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 22:28, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
::::::Can you find a page where this consistently happens?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:22, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
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:::::No no, that's not what I meant. What I meant was when you click on a link that's on an AF page, it leads you to the regular page, and my proposal is that we should change those links (once again on AF pages) to lead to the AF version of the link, if possible. Even if this could be rendered useless on April 1{{th|1}}, it still would be more humorous for users who browse AF pages. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 00:48, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
:::::::My Talk has is so does the CP <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:44, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
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I don't think this is a good idea. What benefit will this bring? This change would mean that on AF Day, every ''mainspace'' page would be linking to the AF subpage instead of linking to other real pages. Then any normal user would suddenly be taken to some cryptic page titled "Scratch Wiki:April Fools/Ignatious Q. Higgenbotham" and not know what they were looking at. Plus, the {{t|April Fools}} template (which is on every ''mainspace'' page with an AF version) shows a header saying "this is a joke, scroll to the bottom for the real article"; the {{t|AF}} template (which is on the ''AF versions'' of mainspace pages) does not. Linking to AF versions from mainspace would remove the ability for educators, New Scratchers, and other members of our audience to get some serious help that they just happened to need on AF Day.
Can you walk us through the exact steps you used to ''consistently'' reproduce this?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:06, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:So looking at the video you sent me, your troubles are completely because you enabled features that are known to be potentially broken! Please turn off any "labs" features in your preferences, and everything will work again.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:23, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::Thanks so much! {{done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:28, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
==Interwiki link for my userpage==
 
Hi! Can I added an interwiki link for my userpage? (https://scratch-dach.info/wiki/Benutzer:Jakel181 )<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 21:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:Sure, just add <code><nowiki>[[de:User:Jakel181]]</nowiki></code> to your userpage somewhere. I've already interwiki-linked my userpage across all wikis.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:21, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::Cool thanks just wanted to make sure it was allowed. {{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:35, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Wiki News update and S:FA Update ==
 
 
 
Can an EW+ please update the wiki news and S:FA for the new featured article. Thanks! {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 16:55, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:{{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:26, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Adoption ==
 
{{Warning|I know it's on Wikipidea, but I have reasons other than it's used on WP.}}
 
The adoption program is simalar to the WP Adoption Program. It will be useful because some new users may need help. Making WP-Like Adoption Templates such as {{Adopt me}} will help. There is no reason that it is useful beacuse it's used on WP, but it may be useful in other cases
 
<scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 06:23, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:We already are doing that and you can, so no support? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 07:58, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::Where a you doing that and are you a admin? <scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 08:15, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Not here, but one of the ways you can is to make a welcome message and post to new users' talk pages. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 08:43, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::To clarify, since English is neither of your native languages, many users on this wiki have "welcome" templates (e.g. [[User:Kenny2scratch/Welcome|mine]]). We post these on users' talk pages when they are first accepted. Consider this already informally {{done}}.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:43, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::That is not what it means. Adopting users means a mentor to help you. And sorry apple for editing your post (aka. your namespace). I live in Australia so my native language is English. {{Not done|Undone}}<scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 22:16, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::New users on Wikipedia can sometimes have literally ''no'' experience with the site, so they need a more experienced user to help them along; we have a much more strenuous account request process that ensures that new users already know some things about this wiki; therefore, mentoring is essentially unnecessary on this site, and if it is necessary usually one of the admins ends up watching specific users for a while.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:15, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Is this wrong? ==
 
 
 
In this wiki page: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/April_Fools%27_Day#Wiki_.28since_2014.29 on 2017 and 2018 april fool day pranks it has the same snowflake on studio to prank the st prank and i'm not sure if scratch would repeat the same prank twice so if you have been on scratch on april the 1st 2017 and 2018 please confirm if it's true or not if not please remove the one that's wrong.
 
<scratchsig>Sparf</scratchsig> 22:20, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:Hey '''Sparf!'''
 
:Three things:
 
:# Make sure to sign your post after the <u>whole thing</u> with "<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>", not just after the header.
 
:# When linking to a page inside the Scratch Wiki or Wikipedia, you can use ''internal links'' instead of using the normal URL format. Use this syntax: <code><nowiki>[[Wiki Page Name#Section (Optional)|Link Name]]</nowiki></code> When linking to Wikipedia, add "Wikipedia:" before the page name.
 
:# Why not post this on the [[Talk:April Fools' Day|page's talk page]] so future people editing that page can see it? {{e|:D}}
 
:Thanks.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 00:45, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::Because the section name was really obtrusive, I've moved your signature to the correct place for you, sparf.
 
::Bigpuppy is completely right - especially about internal links, as we have a [[S:STYLE#no-ext-wikilinks|style guideline]] against external links to internal pages. And yes, questions about specific pages go on the pages' talk page.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:54, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Bug: External Images not working ==
 
 
 
{{Not done}}
 
I was trying to use a external file from another website, but it turned into a reference.
 
<scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 08:34, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:What file were you trying to use? You can only use external images from certain sites.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:35, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::WikiMedia and Commons <small>Heh, heh, I forgot to indent {{E|:P}}</small><scratchsig>Whatsfordinner77</scratchsig> 21:39, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
 
:::WikiMedia and WM Commons files can't be used here. We're not enabling it either. (The main reason is that there are files on Commons that are inappropriate for Scratch, IIRC).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:12, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::A file whitelist could be added?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 07:21, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Banana: Then copying by ourselves is a lot easier.{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:26, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::[[File:waitwhat.png|link=]]  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 07:11, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::::There is a Bad Images list that has explicit images. Not going to link it but the responsible admins can do that. {{User:Whatsfordinner77/Signature}} 02:44, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 
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Having a list of explicit images isn't enough. To actually use WM Commons, we need to be able to censor any explicit images from being included at all, which is not possible with any of our current tech. I will not listen to any more arguments for using WM Commons files, unless you can point out a simple way to censor explicit images. {{done|Rejected}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:48, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:{{note|DO NOT LOOK IT UP. I'M PUTTING KENNY2SCRATCH TO THE JOB|DANGER|img=Danger.png}} Search WP:CHILLDPRO on WP and click the Commons [[File:Commons.png|25px]] link. You'll see that there is plenty of explicit images. Make a new filter plus a Filter for images that works with MediaWiki. This will be plenty to filter. Cant go below that? Just use Report. {{User:Whatsfordinner77/Signature}} 08:32, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::Nope. Making a filter like that is more work than anyone is willing to do. Simply preventing all images from WM Commons is far simpler. If you need a Commons image, reupload it here and add the {{t|commons}} template.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:25, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::{{done}} Rejected <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 23:19, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Random common.css ==
 
 
 
Hi, i am editing my [[User:Asqwde/common.css|CSS file]] and i wan wondering if:
 
 
 
* There would be any way for headings to be a random color
 
* If there is any way it could change color every second? {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 11:55, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:: Neither of those are possible, you would have to use JS to get any css code to do that. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:02, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Is there anyway i can use js? {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 12:07, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Possibly, you would have to edit your common.js file. (or make a browser extension) <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:16, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::You can have it change every time you vist a new page. If you want to do that then add this to your common.js file <code>mw.loader.load('/w/index.php?title=User:Jakel181/Code/RandomColors.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');//Changes the heading of a different page every time I visit one, between 6 colors: Red, Green, Blue, Orange, Purple, and Yellow.</code> <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:39, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Changing colors is possible with [https://www.w3schools.com/Css/css3_animations.asp CSS animations]; random colors are not possible without JS. Use your common.js file for JavaScript that loads for you.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:37, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::::Ken you are a true wizard and master I will bow down to you. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:54, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|7}}Thanks everyone, {{done}} {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 14:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== 403 Forbidden ==
 
 
 
I have had this issue for several days, when i try to access <link censored because it causes IP bans> i get a 403 error? Accessing it now from the CP just worded, but it doesn't work from [[Special:BrokenRedirects]] {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 12:39, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:[[User:Kenny2scratch|Kenny2scratch]] has deleted it now! <scratchsig>NightSpeakers</scratchsig> 13:55, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::I still get a 403 even though it's deleted. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 16:57, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::You shouldn't see that page - it made be ip-blocked for all wikis. I need proxy to read a page now... {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 22:58, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Please do not attempt to go to that page. I, even as an admin, got IP banned for about a day. Anyway, I've deleted the page, this is now {{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:00, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Why does it cause IP bans?{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 06:55, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::MediaWiki thinks we are spambots, due to the page title (censored - please do not publicalize it) {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:38, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 
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=== Why there was an IP ban ===
 
No, it wasn't a MediaWiki ban. Because the page title had a website domain in it, and I attempted to view it, I apparently triggered some sort of anti-commercial spam mechanism that caused me to be IP banned. The ban just got lifted (which is why I can talk to you now), but I've censored the page title for its misdeeds.
 
 
 
To be safe, in the future do not put other websites in page titles.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:27, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:Ok i see, i can still see the link you removed in the CP history though <removed>. {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:50, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::I don't need to censor those revisions, because anybody going into that history is looking for the link anyway. I only removed it so that random not-logged-in users wouldn't see it immediately while looking at the current CP.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:52, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== We can now use images from other wikis, on other wikis! ==
 
 
 
You can now include images from any wiki, on any wiki! This means if a file exists on one wiki it can be included on any other. There's no special syntax to include cross-wiki images, it's just a normal file link. As an example, scroll to the bottom of [[User:Kenny2scratch/Sandbox|my sandbox]]; The QR code there is actually a file on the Japanese wiki: [[:ja:ファイル:ウェブサイトのQRコード.png]]! Note that the "File:" part has to be in the correct language for your wiki.
 
 
 
Enjoy!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:29, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 
: That's great! Although I'm not on other wikis I'm sure this feature will be useful to a lot of Wikians. {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  14:59, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
::That's great news! <scratchsig>NightSpeakers</scratchsig> 20:32, 8 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Awesome! {{e|B)}}{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:48, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::<small>{{tip|We have a {{cool}} template which, like the done templates, can say anything with its first parameter: {{cool|Awesome}}}}</small>{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:51, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 
== Compliment Tuesday! October 9,{{th}} 2018 ==
 
 
 
Welcome to the 13{{th}} Compliment Wednesday!  October 9,{{th}} 2018.
 
 
 
'''What is Compliment Tuesday?'''
 
 
 
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! {{e|:)}}
 
  
'''How to Compliment'''
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That's my two cents.
  
We have a whole wiki page on it! {{e|:D}} You can find it here: [[Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday|Compliment Tuesday]]
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<small>BTW, @TenType, there's a shortcut for {{t|th}} for 1, it's {{t|st}}. There are also {{t|nd}} and {{t|rd}} for convenience.</small>{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:17, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 
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:I don't think everyone knows what I'm saying. Only <u>on</u> AF pages should we link to other AF pages; why would we link AF pages from mainspace? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 16:04, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 
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::Dude. AF pages get ''transcluded into mainspace on AF Day''. The links remain unchanged upon transclusion.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:09, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
'''Compliments'''
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:::Welp, yes, but this would also benefit users who browse AF pages when it's not AF day. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 17:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
 
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::::I don't really know that many people that browse AF pages outside of AF day, and there are ways for people to access AF pages if they really need to. If people want to reach a page on AF day, all they will find are AF pages. <br/>{{User:Jedibrine/Sig}} 04:03, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
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::::<!-- this indentation is intentional -->I've made a change to the {{t|April Fools}} template (the one that goes on mainspace) so that it shows a little icon in the top right that links to the AF version. That should make things easier for the minority that browses AF pages, which substitutes the only real benefit of this; therefore I shall consider this {{done}}.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:26, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable" width="100%"
 
|-
 
! User
 
! Compliments
 
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| {{user|Kenny2scratch}}
 
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* What can I say, You do so much to help the wikis and an inspiration to all of us. :) <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 14:01, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|jakel181}}
 
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* Thank you for being so sincere! You put your whole heart in what you do.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for helping me with css {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 14:06, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|asqwde}}
 
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* Thank you for being so quick of reply and action! You respond to everything rather quickly.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|jvvg}}
 
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* Thank you, again, for WikiMonitor and its great work! You and it keep the Wiki clean :D{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:04, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 
|}
 
  
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== Thankful Thursday! August 1{{th}}, 2019 ==
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 021}}
  
 
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
 
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
  
The next CT is October 16{{th}} 2018! See you then!
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The next TT is August 29{{th}}. See you then!
  
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:37, 9 October 2018 (UTC)  
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
:{{done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:37, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
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:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
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::Isn't that supposed to be August 1{{st}}? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 17:54, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
  
== Add Siggy Warner to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] ==
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== Split Help talk:Welcome/4 ==
  
So for those who don't know what [[User:Kenny2scratch/Project Guides/Siggy Warner|Siggy Warner]] is, it's basically a JavaScript thing that pops up a confirmation box when you forget to sign, as well as adding a notice to previews when you don't sign. You can still deliberately omit the signature by either checking the "minor edit" box or typing "CONFIRM" when prompted.
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[[Help talk:Welcome/4]] is used by new Wikians to test out using talk pages. But, there is also a real discussion on the page named 'Blanking' (although before the actual discussion, there are a few talk page tests).
  
Since forgetting to sign your post is one of the most common mistakes, I propose that instead of people opting into using my siggy warner, we add it to [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] as something that is loaded for all users. I think my siggy warner has reached a development status where it's ready to be included for everyone.
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I suggest that all test discussions should be moved to its own talk page (that is a sub-page of the real talk page), which could be named something like 'Help talk:Welcome/4/Testing'. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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: They really should! <scratchsig>God286</scratchsig> 06:31, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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::I disagree - besides posting on talk pages, New Wikians should also learn how to get to them. If they have to additionally navigate to a subpage, they might be misimpressioned that they have to do that with all talk pages. At the most maybe indicate at the top of the page that ''real'' discussions should go in a subpage.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:46, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
  
Potentially there could be a way to opt out of it, too - maybe by loading a user JS file that counteracts the effects of Siggy Warner.
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== New Featured Images ==
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{{not done}}
  
What do you think about adding Siggy Warner to common.js?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:42, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
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Hey! Soon, on August 12th, it'll have been a month since we updated the Featured Images yet. This time, I don't want to do them late like I have in the past, so does anyone have any suggestions? {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
:Support. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 14:05, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
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:A photo of somewhere tropical. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
::MAJOR Support Ken! Great idea! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:20, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
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::I don't understand - is this a joke (if it isn't, I'm not trying to offend; simply trying to understand)? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
:::User-generated content should not be included in the wiki's main code.{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:07, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
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:::It is. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
::::@D_S: You are too late to say so - ScratchWikiSkin2 and Report Extension are user-generated. (you called Ken's Siggy Warner "user-generated", so these are also "user-generated".) Do you have any other reason? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 13:45, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
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:::: The _:))_ emoji. Looks nice and funny.<scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 01:23, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
:::::Plenty of things that the Wiki itself relies on started off as user-generated things. This would be no exception. As apple rightfully points out, SWS2 and the Report extension are technically user-generated, as are WikiMonitor, TemplatesFTW, and other major parts. The only difference is that the "major" parts have been approved by the community to be a part of the Wiki itself and no longer counted as user-generated. By posting this, I am requesting that the community decide whether this should be moved into the main codebase and no longer simply a user-created script.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:50, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
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:::::You mean literally feature the {{e|:)}} picture? I guess that works LOL
::::::CA is also user generated. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:30, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
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:::::I'd suggest [[:File:Statistic Rollover Info.png]] because it looks cool and has a random interesting piece of info :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:42, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
:::::::CA is user-modified. <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 07:31, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|:::::::}}
 
<s>Everybody, repeat after me: Stay on topic, stay on topic, stay on topic!</s>
 
  
Let's not get off track about what is or isn't user-created or modified. So far we have 2 supports and one disputed no support. Any other opinions?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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== A-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-archive TIME! ==
:Wouldn't this basically put WM out of a job? Except for categories.{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:18, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::@D_S Wm also updates the FPC, the too many edits warning and a bunch of other stuff as well. {{not done|No support!}}{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 15:36, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::@Drunken jvvg has said he is fine with it, becasue it is less for him to maintain as he is really busy. @Asqwde Why no support? (Just wondering) <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:10, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::(this indentation indicates a reply to @D_S) jvvg also noticed that I'm slowly integrating more WM functions into the core. He's fine with it, though, since it would be less for him to maintain. Actually, WM doesn't need to check file categories anymore, either - an abuse filter prevents file uploads without categories. But WM isn't anywhere near out of a job yet - it has curator updating and rapid edit detection, neither of which we can do regularly.
 
:::(this indentation indicates a reply to @asqwde) Why do you not support this, though?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:24, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Hey, asqwde, if ya remain silent I won't know what the problem is, and I'll just put it in without a second thought - what's the reason you don't support?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:17, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Since we don't have any valid rejects (yet) when is this planning to implemented? <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:05, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:51, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Should we do Userboxes? ==
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FYI These CPND topics are to be archived:
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* [[S:CPND#Wiki Wednesday suggestion link should be on the left?]]
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* [[S:CPND#Why doesn't the "CodeMirror" thing always work?]]
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* [[S:CPND#Assets Page]]
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* [[S:CPND#Community Blocks Page in my Userspace]]
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* [[S:CPND#VisualEditor extension]]
  
I think that they will add alot of possiblites with Userboxes like WP. I'm not saying that they should be used beacuse its used on WP, but they will be handy for alot of users. What do you think? {{User:Whatsfordinner77/Signature}} 08:04, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
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And don't forget [[S:CPSYS]]! {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 01:51, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
:If you want, you can - just create in your userspace. Almost everything is allowed there.
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:Wow, a lot of pages in the Not Done section can be archived! {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:26, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
:You can copy [[:tw:User:Apple502j/ub]] to [[User:Whatsfordinner77/ub]].
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::{{done}}!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:11, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
:Usage:<nowiki>{{User:Whatsfordinner77/ub|File=[[File:XXX.png|60px]]|String=This user is xxxxx.}}</nowiki> {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 12:49, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Welcome, SVG Files! ==
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== Minor Change to S:CONTRIB ==
  
We can now upload SVGes here! No special things required. Just use [[Special:Upload|this]]! {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 03:09, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
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{{done}}
:Ayy!! {{e|B)}} {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:50, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::{{cool}} Just confirmed it works, as well (and it properly rejects bad SVGs).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:52, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::<nowiki>*</nowiki>dances around the place* That's great news! I always  use SVGs, it's such a pain that I sometimes have to convert them into PNGs to upload them onto certain sites! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  07:47, 17 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Amazing - SVGs are like, one of the best file types. {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:41, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::(In my opinion. Also, I meant image file types.)<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:41, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Scratch CDN links for images ==
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[[S:CONTRIB]] says "'''Creating an email is encouraged''' if you haven't already. You will need it if you forget your password.", but the passwords are emailed now, I believe - so I believe it should say something like "'''Creating an email is encouraged''' if you haven't already. You will need it to receive your password." What does everyone think? Or am I missing something? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:33, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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:It's required.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 16:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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::Yeah, so maybe we should put "Creating an email is required" instead. {{E|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:38, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::I have no objections.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 16:41, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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::::Shouldn't be encouraged since it's mandatory like Banana said. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 23:08, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Right. {{e|:)}} I'll just change it and if anyone realizes that it shouldn't have been done, we could change it back. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:36, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
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::::::{{done}} - does it look okay?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:38, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|::::::}}
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Well {{done}} for spotting and fixing that! I'm completely happy with the changes.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 23:39, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
  
These don't work. Seriously, there Scratch. I can understand Commons and WM being blocked, but why is Scratch CDN not working. This website is for hosting Scratch Project/Studio/PFP Images etc. This seems pointless. Ken, can you fix this? {{User:Whatsfordinner77/Signature}} 10:35, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
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== Wiki Wednesday - Participate! ==
:Scratch CDN is not a wiki, so you need to use another way:
 
:<span class="plainlinks">https://cdn2.scratch.mit.edu/get_image/user/10817178_32x32.png</span>(see source)
 
:However, we do '''not''' recommend using this. It's not so hard to upload an image. And why do you need to use CDN? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:42, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::Do you know how to put it in a frame like this?
 
::[[File:Example.jpg|thumb|Like this?]]
 
::{{User:Whatsfordinner77/Signature}} 21:54, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::External images can't be resized. If you need resizing, upload it to the Wiki.
 
:::(I should also clarify that "external" images are when you use direct image links to include image files; "external wiki" images are when you include images from another wiki with [[File:]] syntax.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:09, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Also,  I would like to add that a the wiki is NOT an image hosting site. If you need an image for your userspace then just upload it with the catergory [[:Category:Users' Images]] <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:01, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== New SDS! ==
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Hi everyone!
  
Can an ew+ add the new sds to the homepage? Thanks! {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 07:06, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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Those who have been following Wiki Wednesday closely might have noticed that we introduced a new section in July, "Participate!". Our goals are to  
:{{done}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:13, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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* increase community engagement with the Wiki Wednesday event
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* reduce (the relative amount of) spam on the topic
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* show people that they can use the Wiki to answer many questions
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* get more people interested in joining the Wiki by inspiring them with interesting questions/ topics that need coverage
  
== Remove Italics from Scratch News ==
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In July's participate we asked people to ask questions, try to answer them with the Wiki or otherwise answer if they can. We got some interesting questions:
  
Hi! May someone remove the Italics from the SDS entry in the scratch news by replacing <nowiki>''</nowiki> with " please. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:21, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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> Answered by wiki
:Actually, italics are often used to indicate quoting. Besides, in this particular case, the description spans multiple lines and therefore can't be quoted with normal quotes; the {{t|quote}} template is overkill.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:25, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
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* Where is the remix tree?
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* What is the Wiki?
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* What is Wiki Wednesday?
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* Who invented Scratch?
  
== Compliment Tuesday! October 23{{rd}}, 2018 ==
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> Answered by community
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* Troubleshooting on MacBook
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* Changing the profile picture on a tablet
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* How many studios can someone create?
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* How to make a thumbnail (that is not visible once the Green Flag was clicked) for a project
  
Welcome to the 14{{th}} Compliment Tuesday!  October 23{{rd}}, 2018.
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> Unanswered
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* When are Scratch Updates launched?
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* Branding Tips
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* Project ideas
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* Wall detection platformer tutorial
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* Make a bullet follow a player
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* Full game tutorials
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* How to draw in Scratch
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* What did the ST expect people to do with studios?
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* How to get hacked blocks
  
'''What is Compliment Tuesday?'''
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As you see some of the unanswered questions could have been answered using the Wiki - oh well, they were burried beneath spam I guess...
  
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! {{e|:)}}
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This month's Participate! is to give us feedback on last month's participate and Wiki Wednesday in general. It would be great if the Wiki Community could participate :) On the Wiki Wednesday post: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/368257/ post your feedback! You can also make suggestions for future Participat! sections. Or say if you don't think Participate! is useful and try and develop another strategy. Thanks all!
  
'''How to Compliment'''
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-- <scratchsig>LiFaytheGoblin</scratchsig> 17:20, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
  
We have a whole wiki page on it! {{e|:D}} You can find it here: [[Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday|Compliment Tuesday]]
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:{{cool|Very cool!}} Even though I didn't participate in last month's "Participate!", I will make sure to participate next time! (This sounds like a great idea btw!) {{e|:D}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:44, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
  
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== Scratch down ==
  
'''Compliments'''
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Anyone know why the Scratch website is down? I’m at school, so I can’t check the Twitter posts.{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 16:39, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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:Hmm, I don't know. When I got on at about 1:10, it said down for maintenance, and then I just checked back to get to the Twitter posts and it's back up again, at 1:11. Weird.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 17:12, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
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:: Maybe your school banned Scratch since there a games there. <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 01:22, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::No, it was down, like [[Maintenance Mode|down for maintenance]]. Not banned. I wasn't at school anyway.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 16:54, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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::::Maybe [https://scratch.mit.edu/news this?] <br/>{{User:Jedibrine/Sig}} 04:41, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::::It happened when 2.0 was turning into 3.0, but by the date of the post, I don't think the reason was due to that. <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:02, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
  
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
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== Statistics - New Zealand ==
  
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I think we need to write in [[Scratch Statistics|this page]] that New Zealand is cut off massively, and can not really be seen. It's quite noticeable! <scratchsig>God286</scratchsig> 06:27, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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:Actually, this is a common thing done in corporate - New Zealand frequently doesn't constitute a large statistic, and its presence extends the map a lot, so it is commonly deliberately left out of statistics maps. You can tell the ST to add it back, I guess, for all the good it'll do :P{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:39, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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:: It's statistics can hardly be seen, due to the fact you have to hover your mouse on a little dot. <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:10, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
  
{| class="wikitable" width="100%"
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== Giving Credit on the Wiki ==
|-
 
! User
 
! Compliments
 
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| {{user|kenny2scratch}}
 
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* Thank you for helping me and being so nice! You are someone i wish i was as good as on the wiki! <scratchsig>Kittenslikefood</scratchsig> 13:41, 9 October 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you for helping me with grammar! :P <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:59, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Kittenslikefood}}
 
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* For engaging with the community - asking questions and being really nice to other Wikians.{{E|B)}} <scratchsig>NightSpeakers</scratchsig> 13:24, 13 October 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Jammum}}
 
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* Your edits are of high quality, living up to your great account request. Well done!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:26, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 
* Welcome to the wiki your edits are looking great so far! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:02, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
 
|}
 
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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{{not done}}
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I think that we should make a template for credit like this: {{User:Scratch-Coding/credit|Scratch-Coding |template}}. It would be helpful. We could use the remix button image instead of the one I have. {{User:Scratch-Coding/Signature}} 00:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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:When and where will it be used? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 01:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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::What would you use this for, and why? The wiki is a collaboration and we all own a part of it. No one owns a article unless they created it on there userspace where they can so whatever they want with it.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 01:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::Templates are mainly created for mainspace Wiki articles {{-}} when and why would this be needed? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::It would be used on userspaces, giving credit for a image, and giving credit for an example. <scratchsig>Scratch-Coding</scratchsig> 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::::You can use it on your userspace but I don't think it's necessary. Btw: What did you do to your signature? It's broken.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::::This wouldn't be that beneficial to the Wiki, especially if it is mostly used on userspace. I still disagree. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent | 6}} Who would use it? <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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:Yeah, I don't think this is necessary. If you need to credit someone you don't need a template. Furthermore, you wouldn't need to credit anyone on mainspace, this is collaborative and we don't get/need credit for what we write here.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
  
The next CT is October 30{{th}} 2018! See you then!
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==Watchlist token not Working==
  
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:10, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
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It claims to let me see my watchlist when I search it on the web, but it shows nothing at all. <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
:{{done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:10, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
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:Nope. The token is used for RSS - not web viewing. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 14:04, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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::Oh, thanks! <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:17, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
  
== In scratch news link the FPC's name to the FPC's profile. ==
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==How to use Scratch to host images?==
  
This is just a a small suggestion that in the scratch news to link the FPC's name to the FPC's  scratch profile. What do you think? <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 23:38, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
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It says right [[Image_Hosting|here]] that we can host images on scratch.mit.edu, but I don't know how. Could anyone teach me? Thanks! <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:17, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
:I was thinking that, however on the Scratch main front page there is no link to the profile and so should there be on the wiki? <scratchsig>NightSpeakers</scratchsig> 07:44, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
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:You can use images hosted in scratch.mit.edu (project thumbnails, studio thumbnails, user icons, etc.), but you can't upload images there. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 16:46, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
::Violation of [[S:NOSP]], no support {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:06, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
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::For example, your user profile picture on Scratch can be found at this link: [https://cdn2.scratch.mit.edu/get_image/user/17528194_60x60.png (look at the url)] <br/>{{User:Jedibrine/Sig}} 02:45, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
:::We don't link to user profiles at all. If we have to mention usernames to give credit according to CC, we still don't link the name. (ST members on the [[Scratch Team]] page are an exception.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:00, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
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:::And Scratch images can also be directly embedded here too :) https://cdn2.scratch.mit.edu/get_image/user/17528194_20x20.png{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
::::Ok :) {{Done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:04, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
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::::I accidentally embedded it here first when I was trying to show the url lol <br/>{{User:Jedibrine/Sig}} 02:13, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::::We are currently coming up with a good way to host future images for our Wiki Wednesday release. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:34, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
  
== Adding A Section To A Page ==
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== Tinkercad Codeblocks ==
  
Hello! I haven't been here in a while, and it's nice to be back. :) I just clicked "Random Page" and it brought me to the "Projects Loved By Scratcher's I'm Following" page. I've noticed by looking in [https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/5448215/ this studio] that most people don't like that row to be on the front page. Do you think I should add a section about the controversy?
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Tinkercad has a new feature called Codeblocks that looks similar to Scratch. It has hat blocks and variables. I think this could have a page on this wiki.
<scratchsig>Purple_Ember</scratchsig> 21:47, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>LiamSapp123</scratchsig> 19:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
:I don't see much controversy, and the only reason why it's currently being talked about is because of the current question of the week. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:17, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
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:Does it have a specific connection to Scratch in particular though? We don't have a page on Blockly, even though it's a similar concept (and even though 3.0 has Blockly code in it).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
  
== H: shortcuts for Help pages ==
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== October 2019 EW Election ==
I am suggesting that shortcuts for Help: pages to have shortcuts under the H: prefix.
 
An example would be H:BLOCK, which is meant to redirect to [[Help:Blocking users]]. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 17:00, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:I think short cut should say as "S:" as S stands for shortcut, If we use H: for a shout cut on help pages then we can use T for talk U for user, a letter for all the namespaces, and at that point there would be 15+ Different trypes of shortcuts to use and it would be confusing and hard to keep track. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:41, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::You get this idea from Wikipedia, I presume? We don't have enough need for shortcuts to help pages to separate help shortcuts from project shortcuts, I believe. If we had many more help pages, with much more interest in them, then maybe we might consider adding help shortcuts.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:06, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::: Firstly, I didn't get the idea from Wikipedia. Secondly, I think T: shortcuts and U shortcuts might be a bit spammy and unnecessary. Thirdly, I think S: does not stand for shortcut, I think it stands for the "Scratch Wiki:" namespace, as there is B: shortcuts for bots. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 16:55, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::It is indeed true that S: stands for "Scratch Wiki", but B: doesn't stand for any namespace, does it? Also, I think you missed jakel181's point: if we were to have another shortcut prefix for a specific namespace, that would open up the possibility of more prefixes for even more namespaces, causing clutter. Anyway, help pages are not referred to frequently enough for a special prefix to be necessary - if you need to create a help shortcut, use a plain S: shortcut.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:10, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::: Ok. Also, B: stands for bot. {{Done}} <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 11:10, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Reply template ==
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=== Overview ===
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On behalf of all the Scratch Wiki admins and EWs, I am happy to announce that '''the seventh Experienced Wikian elections will be held in this month of October, 2019.'''
  
Hi I created a reply template ([[User:Jakel181/Templates/@|Here]]) and I am wondering would it be something that you would use? If so would it be ok to move it to the template mainspace? Also if someone used it to reply to you, would you be ok with being pinged on your talk about that? <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:44, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
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You can find the most relevant information on the election page: [[Scratch Wiki:Elections/October 2019]] and the [[Scratch Wiki:Elections/October 2019/Nominations|nomination page]]. Visit this page to learn more about being an Experienced Wikian: [[Scratch Wiki:Experienced Wikians]]
:To clarify, since the OP isn't very clear: What is the community opinion on being messaged on your talk page, notified with a banner, or otherwise made aware of being mentioned with a template on some talk page? I.e. if someone were to <code><nowiki>{{@|Kenny2scratch}}</nowiki></code> I would get a talk page message, or a banner, or something else telling me that I have been pinged on a talk page. Thoughts?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:59, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::Thanks, I was writting it more like a survey, but yes that is the propose of the template. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:08, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Can this be moved to the template main space as well?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:57, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::The purpose of the template is to provide a single way to make pings, yes? While nothing provides pings, it's simple enough to just write @username, without worrying about using a template.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:58, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::@Kenny2scratch Ok ;P <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 14:01, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::{{not done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:42, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}
 
@Ken Wouldn't it have to be built into the mw software to automatically tell someone that they were pinged? Also, if this template won't be accepted, then we could make it so that whenever our watchlist was changed, we would get a banner. [[Scratch_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Watchlist!|Watchlist topic]] <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:55, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:I'm not ken but I can certainly answer your questions.
 
# No, you can use a bot or an extension for detecting if you were pinged as wiki monitor can automatically tell if you added a signature to a post.
 
# As for the watch list question, I did a search and couldn't find any extensions or configuration variables, but it is not said it couldn't be created. :)
 
::Though you can currently have the software email you when a page on your watch is changed.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:18, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Something about the vector skin ==
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=== Rationale ===
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This election is for mostly the same reason as the February 2018 elections. I (kenny2scratch) have now started 11{{th}} grade, and the level of stress is really high - this is the year where the vast majority of learning goes on. I'm not withdrawing or retiring from the Wiki like jvvg has, but I will definitely have to be far less active.
  
When I was viewing kenny2scratch's userpage in the vector skin, I clicked on a link, where it went back to the normal skin. To fix this, I recommend that links when viewing in the vector skin to have ?useskin=vector at the end. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 16:55, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
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Now, the EWs elected in June have done their job very well - but I'm sure they'd love some help. Also, in the last election there was an experience imbalance - the candidates joined the Wiki in 2015, 2017, and 2018; additionally, at the time other nominees couldn't become candidates because of lack of experience. After three months, we feel confident that nominees will have more experience.
:That is because when you click on a vector link, the page and only the page you clicked on will be vector. If your default is the sw skin. So if you click on a link that is normal (No specified skin) even if you are viewing it in vector but your delfault is the sw skin then you will see the sw skin when you click on the link. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:29, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 
::I think I understand you right... you mean that links to pages when viewing in a skin other than your set skin should have <code>?useskin=skin</code>? I.e. if you're viewing in another skin, links should not take you back to your set skin?
 
::Good idea. Now is it worth the effort?
 
::Changing links on the server-side is likely the most elegant solution, but also the most difficult.
 
::Changing links with MW JS is hackier, but easier. Thing is, it also eats up processing power, especially when there are a lot of links. It's also difficult to discern what links are internal and what links aren't.
 
::If you want to preview in a certain skin, though, you can use my [[User:Kenny2scratch/useskin.js|useskin.js file]] (add the line <syntaxhighlight lang="javascript" inline>mw.loader.load('https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&title=User:Kenny2scratch/useskin.js');</syntaxhighlight> to [[Special:MyPage/common.js|your common.js file]]) which adds a dropdown that lets you choose what skin to preview in.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:30, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Server update ==
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=== Expectations/Hopes ===
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EWs elected in this election should be able to dedicate a set amount of time each day to patrolling edits made that day. Though all edits from each day must be patrolled, the elects need not patrol them all by themselves. Instead, they should coordinate with myself and other admins and EWs to patrol the day's edits.
  
We will have a server update after 8 minutes! This means you can't edit for a while. Please refrain from editing so that you don't lose your edits. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:53, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
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Elects should also:
:Okay, thanks for telling us! <scratchsig>NightSpeakers</scratchsig> 09:58, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
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* Know the account request process well (processing account requests is what the entire EW role was created for)
::<s>{{done|Postponed}}</s><u>{{done|Failed}}</u> {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 11:38, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
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* Have a certain amount of activity per day outside of patrolling. Edits made in the course of patrolling are usually enough.
::: Do you know what was supposed to be done in the failed server update? <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 16:15, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
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* Know how to gently/nicely/politely correct new users' behavior
::::Just a change of server locations. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:00, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
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** No: "Please remember to indent. You did not indent on User's talk page."
:::::Answered in the topic below.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:53, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
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** Yes: "Hi, I just saw your message on User's talk page. Your comment was rather [positive adjective], but I just want to mention that when replying to other people's posts we usually..."
  
== The server transfer: what it is and why the last try failed ==
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=== Conclusion ===
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Nominations open at 12:00 AM UTC on October 5 (which is 8pm Scratch Time on October 4). Good luck, and may the best candidates win!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:29, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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:Another one? It feels like we just did the last! Nevertheless, I'll nominate myself when it's open.<scratchsig>MClovers</scratchsig> 04:38, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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::It is unprecedented, to have two elections in such a short time, but the rationale is valid.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:44, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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:::Cool, looking forward to see who the candidates are.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 20:05, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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::::Wow, this quick? I'll be waiting for nominations to open then {{e|:D}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:58, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Wait, question for Ken- so EW<u>'''s'''</u> will be elected or undecided? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:02, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
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::::::Whoops, just read the election page. Carry on! {{e|:P}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:43, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|7}}Yay, I didn't miss it this time...{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 11:17, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
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:How do I nominate myself (once the page opens)? <scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 15:04, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
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::You go to the [[Scratch Wiki:Elections/October 2019/Nominations|nomination page]]. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 15:24, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
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:::Got it! Thanks! :) <scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 15:39, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|:::}}
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=== Nominations open ===
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Nominations are now open! Please see [[Scratch Wiki:Elections/October 2019/Nominations]]. Nominations close on October 12 (next Saturday).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:40, 5 October 2019 (UTC)
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:Reminder: Nominations close this Saturday! If you are unsure, you have a little over one more day to make up your mind.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:03, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|:}}
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=== Candidates ===
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Nominations are closed! After much deliberation by the admins and current EWs, here is the list of candidates (in alphabetical order) in the June 2019 election:
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* apple502j
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* Jammum
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* MClovers
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* TenType
  
So I want to clear up several things... Sorry I didn't bring this up before. (For the sake of making grammar work, I will speak in future tense here.)
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Candidates: Start writing your speeches! Once you have written your speech and are happy with what it says, '''post it in a reply here'''. Remember that speeches must be no more than 108 words and not break any rules stated on the [[Scratch Wiki:Elections/October 2019|election page]]. If you like, you can post your speech multiple times - your last reply here that you mark as your official speech will be the speech displayed on the election page. You have until October 19 to write and post and/or revise your speech.
  
=== What it is ===
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Everyone else: There's nothing for you to do right now - voting starts on October 19. Check back in a week!
There is another server transfer upcoming. (For those wondering what I mean by "another", see [[Scratch Wiki#Server Transfer]].) The purpose of this transfer is as follows:
 
* To move the Wikis onto their own dedicated machines
 
* To give the admins more freedom and power on the servers
 
* To release us from the constraints and worries of being on someone else's company's server
 
For those who don't know:
 
* {{user|MartinWollenweber}} is the person who financially supports the Wikis. Currently, the Wikis live in a folder on his company's server.
 
* To prevent us from doing any potential harm, he only allows we admins to access the servers via FTP, which does not let us do any advanced configuration.
 
** I am an exception to this. I currently have command-line access on his company servers for the sake of preparing for the transfer.
 
  
=== Why it failed ===
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(Edit: your speeches will only be displayed on the election page at the start of the voting period.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:48, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
I attempted to perform this transfer at 10:00AM (UTC) last Friday. However, the attempt ended up failing. I was presented with MySQL error 2013 (search it up for more info) when dumping the wiki databases to transfer to the new servers. There are two possible causes of this error:
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:Hey there! My name's TenType. I have a lot of experience on the Scratch Wiki, such as cleaning up existing articles, helping users around the Wiki, fixing Wiki markup, and much more. Since I'm one of the most active users on the Wiki and moderate every edit that goes into Recent Changes, I believe I would be an excellent fit as an EW for patrolling, handling account requests, and maintaining the Wiki. Lastly, I consider myself to be a hard worker- meaning I would be great for repetitive tasks such as deleting unused/redirecting files. Vote TenType for EW! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 21:17, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
* The database is corrupted (doesn't seem to be the case)
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::Hello, I'm an well-known apple, apple502j. Being an admin for more than years on Japanese wiki, my knowledge on how to moderate Wiki, including ConfirmAccounts, is so huge. I look at Recent Changes almost every day using my free time and I'm sure I'm the best person for patrolling task. I have created many articles here and joined many discussions around the Wiki since two years ago. Also, my timezone is UTC+9; similar to Ken's, so I can help his jobs at the almost same time. Make the Wiki nice like an apple, by Voting Apple. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 07:20, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
* The database is too large, and MySQL times out when reading from it (very likely)
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:::Hello, Wikians! It is a great honour to be a candidate for this EW election. I have been on the Scratch Wiki for nearly a year (at the time of writing this) made over a thousand edits, so I have enough experience. If I get elected, I will do many helpful actions, such as putting lots of effort into helping out and improving this wiki, answer everyone's questions and more. I will carefully read account requests and fix other's spelling and grammar. Finally, I will aim to be on this wiki daily and will only use new privileges for the greater good of the wiki. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 14:59, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
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::::Hi fellow wikians! I'm @MClovers but you can call me Alpha. I'm so happy that I was considered as a candidate for the election! I just want to thank the current EW's and admins for choosing me as a candidate, It means a lot to me! Anyways, let's get onto my speech. I've been on the Scratch wiki for over 2 years now and I've enjoyed every second of it! I believe that the wiki is not just a place to get information but a whole community. Following this belief, I know how to manage online communities. I have a popular community known as 'ShopBux'. I won't get into what it actually is but the core of it is a thriving online community with over 300 pages and around 20 employees. I am a bit of a computer geek as well so I spend a lot of time on my laptop, meaning I am able to be on the wiki on command. Relating to this, my timezone is NZT so you can figure out when I'll be able to get on. I have the ability to correct users politely as I believe that new wikians may be put off if an EW came to them and attacked them. I can easily learn things so this will mean me learning every single nook and cranny of being an EW. Relating to this, I love learning new things so I will enjoy this position. My activity on this wiki will skyrocket as I understand the dedication required to be an EW. I will also try to reccomend the ideas of users to the other EWs and admins. Remember to #VoteAlpha if you want a say in how this online community is run!<scratchsig>MClovers</scratchsig> 03:49, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
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:::::@MClovers, two problems with your speech:
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:::::# Your username is MClovers, not AlphaZetta. "#VoteAlpha" doesn't really make sense in this context.
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:::::# The word limit for speeches is 108 words. Your speech is 290 - over twice the limit.
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:::::In any case, thank you all for your speeches - you now have until this Saturday to revise them. The last reply of yours here that you mark as your official speech will be used on the election page.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:59, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|5}}<Latest Speech>Hello Wikians, I'm an well-known apple, apple502j. Being an admin for more than two years on Japanese wiki, my knowledge on how to moderate Wiki, including ConfirmAccounts, is so huge. I look at Recent Changes almost every day using my free time and I'm sure I'm the best person for patrolling task. I have created many articles here and joined many discussions around the Wiki since two years ago. Also, my timezone is UTC+9; similar to Ken's, so I can help his jobs at the almost same time. Make the Wiki nice like an apple, by Voting Apple. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:06, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
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:<Latest Speech>Hi, I'm @MClovers! Thanks for choosing me! I've been on the Scratch wiki for over 2 years now! The wiki is not just a wiki but a whole community. I can manage communities. I have a community known as 'ShopBux'. It's an online community with an active following. I can get on the wiki on command. I correct users politely. I learn quickly so I can get to know the position. I love learning new things so I will enjoy this position. I understand the dedication required to be an EW. I will recommend the ideas of users to wiki staff. #VoteMCL if you want a voice!<scratchsig>MClovers</scratchsig> 07:51, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
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{{outdent|:}}
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=== Voting Open ===
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The deadline has passed! The candidates for the October 2019 election have written their speeches. View them on the [[Scratch Wiki:Elections/October 2019|election page]].
  
=== When the next one is ===
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Candidates: There's nothing for you to do now but hope. Remember that you are not allowed to do any sort of self-promotion anywhere.
We're not really sure on this one. We're still trying to arrange a time. But do be warned that while the transfer is ongoing, the Wikis will be set to "read-only" mode. This means nobody can make any database changes.
 
  
=== Questions? ===
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Everyone else: Voting has opened! If your account was created '''before October 5''', [https://futuresight.org/wikivote click here to vote]! Voting closes on October 26.
Hopefully that explained most of everything. Any questions?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:53, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for the explanation {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 07:36, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:What country were the files moving to? <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 17:54, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::It's still in Germany. It moves for at most one meter. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 23:23, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::That's probably less important {{wink}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:32, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Template ==
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Good luck to all candidates!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:27, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
  
I would like to create a template for when a page needs its name to be changed.
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== Broken Link ==
<scratchsig>Tarekzaki</scratchsig> 18:09, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:Thanks for suggesting this idea. What would be the use of the template though? Why can’t you just move the page yourself? If it is move protected then that means the title is suitable, if you disagree you can bring it up on the CP. I don’t see the use for this. {{not done|No support!}} {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 19:48, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::@Tarekzaki and @Asqwde it already exists. {{t|Move}} ;) Though, I created a redirect so you can use {{t|Rename}} as the "Move button" was renamed to "Rename". {{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:10, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Thanks for creating the redirect, but I think the OP was referring to when a page needs to be moved not when someone suggests a page to be moved {{User:Asqwde/sig}} 20:17, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::The move template is for both, when a page needs to be moved and when someone suggests a page to be moved. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 21:51, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Thanks for explaining guys. <scratchsig>Tarekzaki</scratchsig> 06:51, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Should we add more emoji templates? ==
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In [[Scratch_Books]] the link for the book ''Coding for Beginners Using Scratch'' is broken. It apears that the company took down the book's page for a new book release which is updated for 3.0 I can never get the web archives to work for me so I thought I would tell all of you to decide what to do.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 21:08, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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:I can't find it with the web archiver; it seems like it wasn't notable enough to document. I would suggest removing the book from the page entirely.<scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:19, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
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::Okay, thanks for your advise. Since the book isn't for sale anymore on their website it's probably the right thing to do.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 00:19, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
  
I feel that the SW is lagging behind with emojis, and we should add the new ones.
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== Does Image Hosting page need change? ==
{{User:KJRYoshi07/Signature}} 23:16, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:I don't think that we really need more emojis as we are not social messaging site, the only ones that we have are the ones that scratch has.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 02:52, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::Just to make it clear that I am not opposing the idea of it, but just giving my opinion. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 02:55, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I mean we should add the most up to date scratch emojis, because most of the rest have already been added. {{User:KJRYoshi07/Signature}} 06:30, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Which emojis are we missing?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:52, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Some cat face emojis, _suitcase_, _camera_, _compass_ and _binoculars_. {{User:KJRYoshi07/Signature}} 11:03, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|:::::}}
 
<pre>{{e|suitcase}}{{e|camera}}{{e|compass}}{{e|binoculars}}</pre>
 
{{e|suitcase}}{{e|camera}}{{e|compass}}{{e|binoculars}}
 
  
Added the specific emojis. I suggest you add the cat face emojis to the {{t|e}} template yourself, but please do prefix the emoji names with "cat-" or something that obvious indicates you want the cat version.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:19, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
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In the [[Image Hosting]] page it seems that Xomf is still under the 'Pending review' section. According to [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/post/3717081/ this forum post] by [https://scratch.mit.edu/users/Paddle2See/ Paddle2See], they've tried to add Xomf but it didn't work. I think that this would make the wiki page out of date. Should I change it?<scratchsig>MClovers</scratchsig> 19:37, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
:There are a few cat emojis in that template right now, should I change their names for consistency?{{User:KJRYoshi07/Signature}} 22:48, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
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:Yeah, go ahead.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 19:51, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
::I would say yes, Keep it consitent with it's documented name.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:55, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
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::[https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/368914/?page=5#post-3717750 Looks like they're trying for imgbb.com right now.]{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 23:20, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
:::Hm, the ones that are already cats only have cat versions. I'd say keep those, but add an extra switch option:
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:::I know, I started it.<scratchsig>MClovers</scratchsig> 00:21, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
<pre>|cat-B)
 
|B)=...</pre>
 
:::That should make things more consistent. Also do update the documentation.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 06:53, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::There was a joy emoji that was never added or documented, but made. <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 08:20, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Compliment Tuesday! November 20{{th}}, 2018 ==
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== Show Preview Loading ==
  
Welcome to the 15{{th}} Compliment Tuesday! November 20{{th}}, 2018.
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Is it just me, or is "Show preview" loading slower and slower as time progresses? At first, since I was using a phone to edit, I thought it was just the side effect of editing on mobile. However, I tried using "Show preview" on my two other laptops and the same happened- I clicked "Show preview", then the gray loading circle would pop up. It takes a VERY long time to load and sometimes won't even load at all. If you click on it again, the circle would disappear and the preview would still not be shown. "Save changes" and "Show changes" works just fine. Is anyone else experiencing this and if someone else is, then could this be fixed?
  
'''What is Compliment Tuesday?'''  
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<small>At this very moment, I clicked "Show preview" and it is still loading... and loading... {{e|:(}}</small>
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<scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 23:45, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
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:On desktop, works normally for me... loaded as instantly as any other submit function.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:52, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
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::It's starting to work more often now... probably some issues with connecting or something else. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 21:19, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
  
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! {{e|:)}}
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== What happened to link previews? ==
  
'''How to Compliment'''
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{{not done}} They don't seem to be showing up for me at all anymore. Anybody else?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 02:44, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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:Same here. Did someone turn it off? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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::Also not getting previews (or at least when I tried it on [[Image Hosting]], linked above). I'll ping jvvg (since he was the one who enabled them).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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:::Any reply from jvvg yet?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 01:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
  
We have a whole wiki page on it! {{e|:D}} You can find it here: [[Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday|Compliment Tuesday]]
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== Should the EW election nomination talk page be protected from New Wikians? ==
  
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New Wikians are ineligible from running in EW elections. Should the nominations talk page of it be protected to prevent them from nominating themselves? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 15:37, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
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:But will new wikians even nominate, that's the thing... Other than that, I think this should happen. It will make things a bit easier. <scratchsig>God286</scratchsig> 20:30, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
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::They will!  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 20:33, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
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:::Future questions like this go on the [[Scratch Wiki talk:Elections/October 2019|election talk page]], not the CP.
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:::To answer the question, yes. I've protected it.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 00:25, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
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::::{{done}}  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 15:13, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
  
'''Compliments'''
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== Delete these files please ==
  
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
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<br/>{{Done}}
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Can any of you guys delete these files?:
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<br/> https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/File:My_Broom_I_Guess_(For_April_Fools)_(Dilek10).jpg
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<br/> https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/File:ALL_HAIL_DA_SEMICOLON!!!!1(Dilek10).jpg
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<br/>Thanks if you do so.
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<scratchsig>Dilek10</scratchsig> 18:25, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
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:In the future, either post this kind of thing on [[/Admin Requests/]], or just use the {{t|delete}} template on the file. {{done}} by banana439monkey.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:56, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
  
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== How to make a new page on your account ==
  
{| class="wikitable" width="100%"
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{{done}}
|-
 
! User
 
! Compliments
 
|-
 
| {{user|Kenny2scratch}}
 
|
 
* Thank you, for all your work on the wiki. Especially as the only active admin right now, your work is appreciated.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:28, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for making TemplatesFTW!. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 16:48, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you so much for helping me out with my signature! {{User:KJRYoshi07/Signature}} 07:38, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you for Making the Greman Community Portal a real meta namespace! <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 02:05, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you for helping me fix the corresponding code template! {{e|:D}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:36, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Jammum}}
 
|
 
* Thanks for making me laugh with your joke work... PLEASE WILL YOU STOP EATING US! {{e|:P}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:43, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|apple502j}}
 
|
 
* Thank you for helping me fix the corresponding code template! {{e|:D}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:36, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|}
 
 
 
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
 
 
 
The next CT is November 27{{th}}, 2018! See you then!
 
 
 
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:40, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:{{done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:40, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::Fixed some grammar in the compliments for a tweet. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 03:16, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== New page for mall simulators ==
 
{{not done}}
 
 
 
Should we make a new page for mall simulators? Mall simulators are sort of big with the biggest mall simulator (Palace of Points) having more than 1400 members. Should we create a page for it? <scratchsig>Sti_scratch</scratchsig> 04:55, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:Maybe not as a whole page, but as a section in [[Simulation Projects]]?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:11, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::Mall simulators, let me explain, are studios where people can register and make projects and add them to the studio. These projects are shops, where people (that are registered in a mall simulator the shop is added in) can buy from. Mall simulators invent their own currency, not tradeable for real money, that is used within the mall simulator itself. So, I don't really think it would fit there since it's technically not a project. <scratchsig>Sti_scratch</scratchsig> 08:54, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::That's a new kind of [[shop]]. Actually, there is no article to write about it, I think. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 12:56, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Yeah, it means that we have to create two pages. for the shops and the sim itself. <scratchsig>Sti_scratch</scratchsig> 03:34, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Compliment Tuesday! November 27{{th}}, 2018 ==
 
 
 
1:Welcome to the 16{{th}} Compliment Tuesday! November 27{{th}}, 2018.
 
2:WOW! Look at all these compilments. This is truly amazing!
 
 
 
'''What is Compliment Tuesday?'''
 
 
 
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! {{e|:)}}
 
 
 
'''How to Compliment'''
 
 
 
We have a whole wiki page on it! {{e|:D}} You can find it here: [[Scratch Wiki:Compliment Tuesday|Compliment Tuesday]]
 
 
 
 
 
'''Compliments'''
 
 
 
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
 
 
 
 
 
{| class="wikitable" width="100%"
 
|-
 
! User
 
! Compliments
 
|-
 
| {{user|Kenny2scratch}}
 
|
 
* Thank you for your help with the Scratch+C64 article, your comments were really helpful to strengthen the relation to Scratch.<scratchsig>Frodewin</scratchsig> 16:51, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you for accepting me to be a Wikian! <scratchsig>12944qwerty</scratchsig> 22:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* We can never give you enough thanks for everything you do for the wiki! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Jakel181}}
 
|
 
* Thank you for helping me out with all the questions I had! <scratchsig>12944qwerty</scratchsig> 22:35, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thanks for everything you do for us, and doing Compliment Tuesday! {{e|:D}}{{unsigned|Bigpuppy}}
 
|-
 
| {{user|Cinnamon bun puff}}
 
|
 
* Thank you for regularly updating the [[Featured Studios#Currently Featured Studios]] list! You're keeping the Wiki up-to-date {{e|:)}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:27, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* As per above - making sure things are correct is a very important job! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Apple502j}}
 
|
 
* Thanks for always seeing when someone does something incorrectly! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Banana439monkey}}
 
|
 
* Thank you for your brilliant activity on this wiki! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Drunken_Sailor}}
 
|
 
* Thanks for being so active and a helpful contributor to discussions! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|4199531979353717123}}
 
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* You make such helpful edits, and you're very active! Thank you {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|-ShadowOfTheFuture-}}
 
|
 
* Thank you for your work on [[Going Off the Scratch Screen Edge]], and your activity! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|12944qwerty}}
 
|
 
* Thank you for creating [[Going Off the Scratch Screen Edge]], and for being so active! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|C700}}
 
|
 
* Thanks for being so interested in the wiki right off the bat! We look forward to your future edits! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|MartinWollenweber}}
 
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* Thank you for your hosting work and everything else you do for us! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|LiFaytheGoblin}}
 
|
 
* Thank you for being a Scratch Team representative who is active on the wiki, and for posting Wiki Wednesday posts! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Makethebrainhappy}}
 
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* Thank you for making the Wiki Wednesday posts, and for doing everything else you do! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Jvvg}}
 
|
 
* Thank you for everything you've done/are doing for us! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Frodewin}}
 
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* Thanks for being so active here! You're amazing! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|Asqwde}}
 
|
 
* Thanks for all you've done on/for the wiki! You're amazing! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|1a3c5e7g9i}}
 
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* I love your userpage, signature, etc.! You're really cool! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|CrazyBoy826}}
 
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* You've made so many edits! Thank you - you're really helpful! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| {{user|NYCDOT}}
 
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* You made so many edits over the summer and were so active! Thank you for everything you've done; we're looking forward to seeing your future edits contributions to the wiki! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
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| {{user|Snowy-The-Dog}}
 
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* Lol - I love how you state that you aren't a dog on your userpage! {{e|:P}} We're looking forward to your future edits and contributions to the wiki! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:32, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
|{{user|Bigpuppy}}
 
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* You are so kind, with all your compliments! They are very sincere! Thank you for finding the good in all of us.:)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:39, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 
* Thank you for helping all around the wiki, participating in discussions and helping maintain the wiki's high standard!{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:58, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 
|}
 
 
 
 
 
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
 
  
The next CT is December 4{{th}}, 2018! See you then!
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How do you make a new page on the Scratch Wiki on your account?
  
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:20, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>Legogo7777</scratchsig> 03:23, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
:{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:20, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
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:Hi, welcome back to the Wiki! You can just navigate to the subpage e.g. by following [[User:Legogo7777/Sandbox|this redlink]] or typing it into the address bar, then editing and saving the page. Hope that helps :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:43, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
::Note: Thank you {{user|12944qwerty|name}} for pointing this out to me: it was not them that created [[Going Off the Scratch Screen Edge]], but {{user|mohie|name}}. I'm sorry, this was my bad. Thank you 12944qwerty for being so active, however; you're awesome! And Mohie, you are too! {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:42, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Sig is acting Weirdly ==
 
 
 
{{done}}<br/>
 
Ok, so my signature is acting weird, whenever I put <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, This is what happens:
 
 
 
{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}}
 
01:41, 28 November 2018 (UTC).
 
To fix it for any specific time this happens, I change it to this:
 
<nowiki>
 
~~~{{nbsp}}~~~~~
 
</nowiki>
 
which shows this:
 
 
 
{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}}
 
{{nbsp}}01:41, 28 November 2018 (UTC)<br/>
 
Is there anyway to fix this? (BTW, you can change my [[User:12944qwerty/Sig|Sig]] or my [[User:12944qwerty/minisig|minisig (for preferences)]]. Just tell me what you did to fix it.
 
 
 
{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}}
 
{{nbsp}}01:41, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:{{done|Fixed}}. Your &lt;onlyinclude&gt; part in your minisig had a newline before and after the transclusion, so when substituted a newline was added before and after your signature, causing the space and time/date to be put on a new line.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:39, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::But now it doesn't start on the next line.... ({{User:12944qwerty/Sig}} 14:10, 28 November 2018 (UTC))<br/>
 
::{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}} 14:10, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Fixed it myself! {{done|Fixed}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}} 14:50, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Fixed bar on left ==
 
{{not done}}<br/>
 
If we look on the top left, we see the boxes, ''Navigation, For Editors, Tools''. I was thinking of making it fixed on every page, so when we scroll, it stays in position to screen. Any support?<br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}} 14:48, 28 November 2018 (UTC)<br/>
 
:'''Edit:''' This would be helpful in especially long pages like this one. <small>and template for 'not done'</small><br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}} 03:12, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::I made a css script you can add to you common.js file, that does just that! Hover over the sidebar and scroll to see the parts that go off screen, and if you scroll while not hovering over the sidebar then it will stay there! I had to move the side bar to the far left though because it was blocking the "About" section on the footer. Here is the code: <pre>mw.loader.load('/w/index.php?title=User:Jakel181/Code/FixedSidebar.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css');//Fixes the sidebar to the screen when you scroll. Credit To Jakel181 for the code
 
</pre>
 
::<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:25, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Thanks, but what I meant was for it to be built into Scratch Wiki. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}} 20:50, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::So, I just tried it but it doesn't work. {{e|:(}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}} 20:56, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::It says in the main post to add it to your [[Special:MyPage/common.js|common.js]] file, not your common.css file. Also, some people prefer the sidebar the where it is right now.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:49, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::Still doesn't work.....
 
:::::My computer is really laggy and won't scroll to the top smoothly. {{e|:(}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}} 23:45, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Ah I see the problem now, bad on my part. Use this code instead: <pre>mw.loader.load('/w/index.php?title=User:Jakel181/Code/FixedSidebar.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css', 'text/css' );//Fixes the sidebar to the screen when you scroll. Credit To Jakel181 for the code</pre> <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:02, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::I too made a CSS file that I think is better than Jake's (Jake, yours has a few problems regarding minute height and width tweaking. Also you use too many hacks :P). Use it by adding <syntaxhighlight lang="js" inline>mw.loader.load('/w/index.php?title=User:Kenny2scratch/fixedsidebar.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css', 'text/css');</syntaxhighlight> to [[Special:MyPage/common.js|your common.js file]].{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:19, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::Haha! Thanks your is 8 lines while mine is 13 :P In short Ken code > Jake code. :P<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:27, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Suggestion: Request for a new page. ==
 
 
 
Hi! I noticed that when you are logged in the wiki and search for a page that doesn't exist like [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?search=Goldfish&title=Special%3ASearch Goldfish], it says: "'''Create the page "[[Goldfish]]" on this wiki!'''" but when you are logged out all it says is "There were no results matching the query." So my suggestion is instead of saying "There were no results matching the query." when logged out it should say "'''Request the page "[https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/294197/ Goldfish]" on this wiki!'''" Thoughts?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:05, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:That's a good idea - it can help normal Scratchers suggest pages and learn how to! '''+1, totally!''' {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:45, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::Why can't I think of such awesome ideas! '''+1''' <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}} 03:18, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::[[MediaWiki talk:Noarticletext-nopermission|I made a broader suggestion along these lines]] more than a year ago, when I wasn't a sysop :P
 
:::I've made a bunch of changes to [[MediaWiki:Noarticletext-nopermission]] now, which should incorporate the suggestions here. Look good?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:58, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I like it, but I don't see the it changes, on any search.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:34, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::The only problem with it is that it only works for MediaWiki searches. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}} 14:16, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::These are media wiki searches. We use media wiki software.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 14:19, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
What I meant is that it only works with pages that are categorized with MediaWiki... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Sig}} 16:37, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:Ok, you lost me now, This is ment to show on pages not yet created, and if the page is not created it can't have a catergory. The MediaWiki in the fornt is just the namespace.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:08, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
::Ok so the suggestion was for the text to show when you search for something on the wiki. Not when you go to the URL of a non-existent page. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:14, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 
:::What I meant was that it only works with MediaWiki as the namespace. The suggestion is asking for to cover the entire scratch wiki search. Right? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:19, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I've edited [[MediaWiki:Searchmenu-new-nocreate]] as well, is that better? Sorry I misunderstood the original suggestion.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:25, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::@ken Thanks :P Thats what I was after. :)
 
::::@qwerty Yes the that is what the suggestion is for; The media wiki namespace is kind of like the settings page for the wiki. Also offtopic lets move to one of our talks to continue about this. :P<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 21:22, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Hour of Code ==
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== New Curator ==
Next week is officially #CSEDWeek, and with that I will be sharing many of the resources on the wiki on the wiki. Are there any specific resources for Computer Science Education that I should be linking to? <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 02:11, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:All CS education? Or just Scratch? In any case, I definitely recommend that you link to the Tips page, and also probably the discussion forums. For outside Scratch, I recommend [https://www.python.org/ the python website].{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 16:40, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Random Page ==
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The Scratch News needs updated, the new curator is scratch-explored (started Monday, I believe).{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 10:55, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
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:jvvg is moving his scripts for his bot (see [[User talk:jvvg]] for more info). An EW may have to change it for now. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:13, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
  
I don't know if anyone else notices, but sometimes the random pages give the same pages multiple times. If we want more pages to be ''better'' and more ''improved'', this should make sure that the random page gives a new page since, let's say, the past hour or two. Support? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:47, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
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== The AF Button ==
:Random page is a feature built into MediaWiki, so it's not something we can just change on a whim. I also just opened it 15 times and didn't get any duplicates, so it was most likely a coincidence that you got the same page multiple times.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 03:17, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
==Wikian?==
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It is very cluttering and bothersome, I don't like it and it confusioning the new members.
So, I was wondering if I was a wikian and looked [[Scratch Wiki:Wikians|here.]] I haven't joined for longer than a month, (one of the requirements for software to detect) but I can edit [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=User:Apple502j/Wikian_Test&action=edit Apple502j's test page] to see if you are no longer a new wikian. I am able to edit it. Is there something wrong with the test page? Is there another page I can use to see if I am a wikian or not? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 04:04, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:Are you sure you were able to edit it? Your account isn't a month old, though you do have over 50 edits. You may have been able to view the source, but that's different from being able to edit it. Try editing again, but this time save (undo your edit if it succeeds).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:40, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::I can't edit other peoples userpages... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:22, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::...or you can go to your preferences and see if you have the Wikian right.
 
:::{{User:KrIsMa/Sig}}  18:37, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I could? I didn't know.. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:17, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Bot Shortcut for GA Stats ==
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Please remove
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<scratchsig>DeleteThisAcount</scratchsig> 11:28, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
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:what in salamander Jimmy's name are you talking about
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:also nobody will do anything if you ask them like that, can you ask more nicely?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:34, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
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::I think he means the little teeny tiny April Fools' button? Somehow cluttering pages (in a space that is essentially ineditable)? That we just added?
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::<small><small><small><small>what in salamander Jimmy's name</small></small></small></small>{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 23:16, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
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:::I think DeleteThisAcount possibly clicked "New topic" or "Send a message" button and could not remove.I will create a topic on DeleteThisAcount's talk page.
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:::<small><small><small><small>what in salamander Jimmy's name(What's meaning of this?)</small></small></small></small><scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 23:48, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
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::::The AF button in the corner is confusing and cluttering pages?
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::::<small><small><small>what in salamander Jimmy's name(it means that something could not be understood lol)</small></small></small> <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:08, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
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:::::"what in the name of X" or "what in X's name" just means something along the lines of "what on earth" - it's a way of emphasizing "what". "Salamander Jimmy" is something {{user|Turkey3|name}} once said on the CP.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:42, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
  
GA stats should have a a shortcut. Like [[B:IWB/GA]]? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 02:54, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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== Suggestion for a new Scratch block: StringBuilder‎‎ ==
:Actually, I think it should be a main shortcut like [[S:GA]] -> [[User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:37, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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<big>Hello fellow Scratch Wiki users,</big>
  
== Assets Page ==
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I’ve been using Scratch over the past couple of years and I noticed something quite frustrating: Text.
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It is really hard to portray graphical text in scratch that can easily be modified(ex. a sprite that dynamically changes it’s text based on the user input.)
  
Hi everyone! On the Community Portal on the forums, there has been a request for a page about assets on the wiki. I just want to get your opinion on whether it'd be worthwhile writing an article on it?
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Right now, there are only a few, limited choices with drawbacks:
{{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  20:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:Pretty good idea. :ok_hand:  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 08:20, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::I asked them, on the topic, for more clarification on the idea before we start making it. Likely it'll end up being a duplicate of [[Sprite Library]] or something, but if it turns out to actually be unique we'll probably include it.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:11, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Active Users ==
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1) <u>Using the say block</u>
The [[Special:ActiveUsers|Active Users List]] shows people that are active from the last 30 days. The only flexibility is to hide bots and admins. I feel we could add a little more flexibility of seeing the active users from most active to least activeness instead of alphabetically. Thoughts? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:23, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:[[Special:ActiveUsers]] is built into media wiki directly, I don't see any configuration settings or MediaWiki interface pages for it. (Not to say that there isn't I just haven't found any) So this most likely would have to be done with an extension which is kind of impractical for us. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:20, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::I've wished for such a feature, but unfortunately there's no such option. And customizing it is incredibly difficult and not really worth it. Sorry.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:19, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Step-by-Step publishing ==
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Using the say block will trigger the particular sprite to mention user-specified text(ex. Hello!). This method is simple, and easily able to dynamically change, but it comes with a few drawbacks. It is really hard in itself to customize the text, in ways like changing the size, color, and font. Furthermore, the text will always appear in a text bubble above the existing sprite, hindering it’s usability in many programs.
  
In the [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing|editing section in preferences]], there is a option for step-by-step publishing which adds the publish button on the top of the edit box. Whenever I use this button to make a new section, It removes the subject and includes the content into the previous section. Why? Is it possible to fix? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
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2) <u> Preparing code to make dynamic text </u>
:I had the same problem. It is because step by step publishing is a lab and still in development, so it is not recommended to be used. It is technically possible to fix, but not worth it for the scratch wiki. You can either turn it off or use wiki markup as a work around.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 19:37, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::Yeah.... What is a wiki markup? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 20:47, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::[[Scratch_Wiki:Cheatsheet]] you want to use a level two heading.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:05, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::Oh. Forgot that Wiki markup is formatting. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 03:00, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::I feel like the option should be disabled completely. All in favor?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:20, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::Agreed, the option barely makes any difference in the editor. Besides, you just have to scroll down a little bit to click the save button. '''+1'''{{e|:D}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 03:25, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::::I say Yea.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:22, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== 3.0 Release: 2.0 "Archiving" ==
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In addition, people using scratch can develop their own typography to display dynamically. The procedure can be done by making the 26 costumes in an “Alphabet” sprite either by hand or using the existing typography. After the process, a “cloning” function can be made to generate the desired text. This is the other alternative to using speech bubbles, and it appears in various other types of  games. Unfortunately, it is really hard customizing features like size and font, because every other costume will be needed to be changed into the desired style. Moreover, getting the word function to actually work can
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also be a problem.
  
Hi everyone, just wanted to say - Scratch 3 gets released very soon, so that means that we need to make sure everything about 2.0 has been "archived" on the wiki. Are there any pages that need more info to do with 2.0? (e.g images?) Because after about a month, there won't be a chance to screenshot parts of the website etc.
 
  
EDIT: We'll also need to start a page on the development of Scratch 3.0 before the chance to screenshot parts of the beta is gone.
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<u><big> A hybrid of some sorts should be made, to further enhance the efficiency of the Scratch language we have come to know and love!</big></u>
{{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  16:08, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:I agree, we should have a 2.0 archive in some shape or form. Though we can still get most 2.0 editor images relatively easily because the offline editor is still available to be downloaded. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:Well, [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles]] will come into play upon release... I think I'll supervise the transfer of those articles to mainspace while other EWs help out in other areas. (The details will be worked out later.){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:24, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::If possible, please screenshot all the pages with old navbar. (Like project pages) Credits, Educators and Parents page will also need screenshots. Localized versions are also welcomed. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:22, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:::I've started [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Development of Scratch 3.0]]. If anyone wants to help, that'd be much appreciated! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  16:03, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::I'm helping! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:38, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::: Thank you! {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  16:51, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::::::@ken Possibly we (or/and your bot) can move articles to articlename (2.0) and add the previous version template to specified pages?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 19:31, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Contributions ==
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<u><big>StringBuilder!</big></u>
  
So, I was looking at my [[Special:Contributions/12944qerty|contributions]] and I found that many of the contribs I did were on pages with the User: namespace or the User talk: namespace. I feel that this wouldn't show our contributions to the Wiki. Is there any ways to change this? Or is it from the mw software? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:08, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
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My proposed idea, StringBuilder, can be a hybrid between the two options, having the ease of dynamically changing and generating the text itself with having it being it’s own sprite!
:Yes and Yes, :) Select the namespace as "User", then click "Invert selection", and "Associated Namespace" You can view it [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?limit=50&title=Special%3AContributions&contribs=user&target=12944qwerty&namespace=2&nsInvert=1&associated=1&tagfilter=&year=2018&month=-1 here]. :)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 02:25, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::That wasn't what I was completely looking for. I also want it to remove multiple namespaces than just one. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 03:12, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Watchlist! ==
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To elaborate, StringBuilder should be a special type of sprite put into the “Add Sprite” button, so that users can get it themselves. It should also come with it’s own blocks and settings.
  
I feel that just like we are notified for a change in our own talk page, we should get notified for a change in our watchlist! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 03:30, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
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<scratchblocks>
:You can! Have you turned on email notifications?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:19, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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when green flag clicked
::I meant directly into the wiki. Something like in mw. When you get replied to on any talk, you get notified (in mw) <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:30, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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set StringBuilder text to [Hello World]
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set StringBuilder height = [100]
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set StringBuilder font to [Arial v]
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set StringBuilder language to [English v]
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set StringBuilder color to Red: [0] Green: [0] Blue: [0]
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add[hello] to [StringBuilder 1 v] starting at index (1)
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remove String at index (1) for [StringBuilder 1 v]
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wrap text when <>
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</scratchblocks>
  
== Image Needed Template ==
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I know these blocks aren’t perfect, so I am open to new suggestions!
{{User:Redglitter/Image Needed Template|this is an example of the template.}}
 
Hi everyone! I came up with an idea for a new template.
 
  
Sometimes I want to put <nowiki> {{citation needed}} </nowiki> next to something, but I can't, because what I actually need is an image - which I can't get hold of. Has any of this ever happened to you?
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Thank You,
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<big>Dewball</big>
  
I made a template in my userspace called "Image Needed Template."  Here it is:
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:Hi Dewball! Sorry, but suggestions for Scratch are more suitable in the [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/1/ Suggestions Forum]. I've moved your page to a topic on the CP here. In the future, for Wiki-related topics use the Community Portal. For Scratch-related topics, use the [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss Discussion Forums]. Don't create an article about it! Thanks! {{e|:)}}
<br/>
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:<small>For other editors who are wondering about this, it was originally created on a mainspace article then moved to a topic here.</small><scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 03:37, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
What do all think? Do you think it could become a proper template?
 
{{User:Redglitter/Signature}} 16:49, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 
:I support the template, I think it would help articles grow more by adding the urge of the need for more ''Supportive'' images.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:22, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 
::I agree '''+1'''
 
::*Images convey more information
 
::*Images help clarify information
 
::{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:32, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 
  
== Time to archive! ==
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== AF Home new News ==
  
The CP has reached 125 Kb! It's time for the 102{{th}} archive! :D Whoo!!! Less scrolling space! :P lol.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:24, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
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What if we add new News to the April's Fools home? <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 14:06, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
:Woohoo! I was wondering when you do it! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:34, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
 

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Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,080edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Done.
Updated the list as the author.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,080edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Updated!
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,080edit 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Logging server faults

No Not done

Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Time Errors Details/Comments
8 August 2018 400 Bad Request
503 Service Unavailable
I was editing User:Kenny2scratch/common.js, and when I clicked "save page" I hit a "400 Bad Request" error. I pressed the browser "back" button (thanks Chrome for caching form data), and clicked "save page" again, and I encountered "503 Service Unavailable". I went back again, resubmitted, and the edit went through.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
10:26 AM, 3 September 2018 (GMT) Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties I clicked on random page
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 09:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
5:27 PM, 3 September 2018 (HKT) "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties" I was literally attempting to edit this section. When I clicked the "edit" link, it brought me to a page that said:

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
(Cannot access the database)


You can try searching Google in the meantime.
Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.


Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

10:07-11:20 PM, 8 September 2018 (HKT) Major outage across all wikis Multiple screenshots: [1][2][3][4]this is the most useful error[5][6][7][8][9][10]

Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

10:44 AM, 2 October 2018 (GMT) 508 Resource Limit Reached Edit a user's talk page
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 09:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
4:40 AM, 2 January 2019 (CST) 508 Resource Limit Reached Trying to create a redirect page.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
4:58 PM, 8:02 PM, 10:22 PM, 10:25 PM @ 3 January 2019 (HKT); 12:46 AM @ 4 January 2019 (HKT) 508 Resource Limit Reached


503 Service Unavailable
File upload fail

Frequent outages across all wikis. Most likely caused by traffic spike from 3.0.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
9:12 AM, 4 January 2019 (CST)
9:17 AM, 4 January 2019 (EST)
"Service Unavailable Error [...]
503 Service Unavailable Error"
"508 Resource Limit Reached"
Trying to enter my talk, kept refreshing until worked, came to CP to log fault. Errors repeated until worked.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
15:02:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC) Fatal exception of type DBQueryError I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
9:02 AM, 7 February 2019 (CST) 508 Resource Limit Reached Trying to go to How to Make a Typewriter Effect.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
4:50 AM, 25 May 2019 (UTC) HTTP error: error Clicked the Show preview button while editing User:TenType/Header, when it did not preview and received the error. Clicking the button again resolved the issue.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
11:00 PM, 24 June 2019 (UTC) "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties." Literally attempted to access en.scratch-wiki.info and a few other pages, when I received this:

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
(Cannot access the database)


You can try searching via Google in the meantime.
Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.

Waited for like 10 minutes while reloading and the error finally cleared.
TenType (talk | contribs) 07:17, 25 June 2019 (HKT)

Could we have a dedicated page to that?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,629)) 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
Nah, just here is fine.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
No Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. (archives)
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Not too many right now.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
No Never done! Server faults will always come.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,629)) 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Do we not have this?
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).
Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles to update for 3.0

No Won't be done for a long time

Hello everyone, it's already January 2nd for me, so I figure I might as well get the preparations started.

Observations/Edit Guidance

Pages outdated upon 3.0 release are incredibly numerous. In most cases, one or more of the following edits can or should happen:

  • Parts that talk about 3.0 features in future tense (e.g. "there will be a new paint editor") should be changed to use present tense (e.g. "there is a new paint editor") or past tense (e.g. "a new paint editor was introduced")
  • Parts that talk about 3.0 changes in future tense (e.g. "the editor will be moved to the right side") should be changed to use past tense (e.g. "the editor was moved to the right side")
  • Parts that mention dates in any tense should have their tense updated (e.g. "the official release will be January 2019" -> "the official release was January 2019")
  • Parts that talk about 2.0 features in any tense (e.g. "the paint editor has these features") should be changed to use past tense (e.g. "the paint editor had these features")
  • Parts that talk about 2.0 changes in any tense (e.g. "the editor was moved to the left") should all be changed to past tense if they haven't already.
  • Take this opportunity to update things that weren't changed from 1.4 days as well.

Progress

Here is a list of articles that need to be updated (on their real versions in mainspace) upon the release of 3.0. You can probably already start updating them now. Articles marked with an asterisk (*) have updates available at Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/the article title, but:

Note Warning: do not copy articles directly from their 3.0 versions!

Though in most cases the information will be correctly updated, make sure to use your own judgement as to its accuracy.

Note Note: Some of the articles listed below need to be created.

Feel free to update this list yourself. Add any articles that you discover that need updates; remove articles that have been updated.

  • Blocks
  • Change () Effect by () (sound block)
  • Development of Scratch 3.0
  • Project
  • File:Name bar.png
  • File:Offline Editor Share Icon.png

Remember to take this opportunity to clean up articles as well as update them!

Fix typography or other writing issues as you come across them

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Here's to a good 3.0 release!

Hooray.png
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
05:40, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Oh I thought a bot would do it :P also are we saving old articles, for example Block Plugin(2.0)?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
I thought we were moving 2.0 to a different place and 3.0 to where 2.0 used to be.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  16:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Removed some articles from the list :)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Should Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Front Page (2.0) be updated? It's so similar to Front Page, that it seems redundant to create a new page.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
I noticed that many of the things needed to be changed were the same in 2.0 and 3.0. What should we do?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
Please don't externally link to Wiki pages! And please don't use underscores in links.
I'm pretty sure it's the pictures that need updating. Would you mind adding all the files on that page that need updating to the #Progress list?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Nothing has changed between 2.0 to 3.0 in Front Page, Messages, Discuss, Profiles. (Maybe more but these are all I've been to). The Project page and project editor are the only ones that have.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
The front page has changed, they've just been using the 3.0 skin for a while. Notice how the top bar is bright blue there and on project pages but a darker blue in discuss and the profiles as well as studios. Messages have also been at the 3.0 skin for a while. My stuff (and everything in it, like trash) has not been updated either.
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 02:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Also I think "Images of stuff in 2.0 should be updated to 3.0." should be included. VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  22:03, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

List of deleted pages

No Not done

(Brought up here after discussion here.)

So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:

  • Mathfreak231's, which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
  • Mine, which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
  • Jammum's Deleted Pages, which are more recent than either of the above
  • Jammum's All Deleted Pages, which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)

I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a Scratch Wiki Project.

Advantages
  • More organized
  • One place for all
  • Can be updated by anyone
Disadvantages
None I can think of off the top of my head

Thoughts? Shall we do it?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
+1 :)
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
I think the page will not be notable enough to go there.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a Scratch Wiki Project. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I say aye.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Are we going to do this?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Okay, I just created a page called User:TenType/Deleted Files, was scrolling through the Community Portal, and found this discussion. :/
Maybe this page could contain pages only and not files? (I really spent a lot of time and effort onto my deleted files page) Anyways, still waiting for a response on whether or not this project will be started.
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

“Secret” Compliments

We all know Compliment Tuesday. To suggest compliments we have the S:CT page. It’s a great way to compliment people, but could be even better.

Right now you suggest a compliment, everyone who wants to including the person who was complimented can see it and get posted on CP.

So I thought that’s good but you do let look forward to the CP post because you know if you have been complimented.

I propose proposing compliments on a way no-one else can see apart from the organizer(s). This can be achieved by a Google Form.

Proposed new method:

  • Users suggest compliments on Google Form entering all details as they would before
  • End of the month (organizer)s have admin access to the form and gather responses
  • Posted in CP

This way:

  • Users will look forward to see compliments received and not seeing anytime of the month
  • People will be more encouraged by the compliments

Ideas?
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 07:28, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

There are pros and cons to this... on one hand, people will be less self-conscious about complimenting if nobody knows it's them, but on the other hand some compliments either don't make sense if you don't know who it is or imply on their own who the person complimenting is. I do like the idea of looking forward to compliments rather than seeing them immediately, but the con to that is people might be disappointed if CT doesn't come out at the end of the month due to not enough people complimenting...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:39, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm on board with this. I still would like to keep the non-secret compliments as a second option if we go about this. The main problem would be moderation. With anonymity, there is more of a chance that something mean would come out of it. An unwritten policy of CT is, if I see a disrespectful "compliment" it won't be included. If we were to use a google forum, we would have to have some way of knowing who compliment who, we can't just ask for a username since we can't verify it wasn't an impostor. Any ideas how to go about this?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:48, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps (again) an extension? Special:ComplimentTuesday sounds like an interesting idea...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Guess who forked your report extension ;) (or possibly Special:ThankfulThursday :P)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
+1 for a Special: page where compliments can be submitted and a way of suggesting public compliments
Logoasqwde.png asqwde talk | contribs 16:23, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── But also,Scratch and Scratch Wiki are growing up with "Imagine, Program, Share".Here's an rejected example suggestion:

Private Messaging

When communication is public, people are more likely to be respectful because they know that everyone can see it. However, when posting PMs, people know that only the intended recipient can see it, so do not think as much before posting. Even if a "Flag PM" function is implemented, the Scratch Team currently does not have the resources to moderate it, because of the reason said before there would be a lot of inappropriate/disrespectful messages.

– Scratch Team

Also,we can see other's compliments(Google Forms give this in finish of the form,right?).

Shortly:

  • It's a bad idea because...
  • It means a lot of disrespectful or other bad messages
  • I have some questions about Google Forms security
  • Also, we'll need a lot code(if we'll use the Wiki for this)
  • And,we and Scratch Team have some notes about private messaging
  • If we'll try to check all of messages,it'll mean more time and more work
  • Anonymous and fake users have a big problem(in Google Forms)


Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 20:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I would generally discourage the use of google forms for this kind of project given that you are seeking input from the entire community.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:33, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
I also disagree with using Google Forms because fake or anonymous users could abuse the feature. However, maybe Special:ComplimentTuesday could be the way to go...
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
Google Forms are out by multiple Community and Wiki G/guidelines. A special page is the way to go. @Ahmetlii: If we're using a special page, problems solved include:
  • It means a lot of disrespectful or other bad messages
Compliments would be reviewed before being shown. Inappropriate messages are vandalism and would be treated as such. Yes Solved
  • I have some questions about Google Forms security
No Google Forms. Yes Solved
  • Also, we'll need a lot code(if we'll use the Wiki for this)
Not a problem for me, it'll be fun! :) Yes Solved
  • And,we and Scratch Team have some notes about private messaging
Compliments are shown to everyone - only who submitted the compliment is hidden. Not private messaging. Yes Solved
  • If we'll try to check all of messages,it'll mean more time and more work
Not very much more, and @jakel181 has been doing a great job on CT so far, I'm sure he wouldn't mind looking through the compliments before he posts them.
  • Anonymous and fake users have a big problem(in Google Forms)
Not with a special page! Yes Solved
I think a special page is definitely the way to go. I believe the following are the only questions to really consider:
  • Do we actually want compliments to be hidden from everyone (except the organizer and the submitter) until they are posted?
    • If so, who do we want to review the compliments so that nothing is inappropriate?
  • Do we actually want to allow anonymous compliments? (Note: This and the previous question are two separate questions - the answer to one does not imply any answer to the other.)
    • If we do want to allow anonymous compliments, we will have to still also allow onymous compliments - people can just include their names in their compliments.
This concludes my post.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:33, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
I think we should allow EW/Admins/Bureaucrats see in some fashion. (Maybe not all but a couple)
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  12:54, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

  • Do we actually want compliments to be hidden from everyone (except the organizer and the submitter) until they are posted? -Yes, they are. (I don't need it :P)
    • If so, who do we want to review the compliments so that nothing is inappropriate? -It's named as "be shy" :)
  • Do we actually want to allow anonymous compliments? (Note: This and the previous question are two separate questions - the answer to one does not imply any answer to the other.)

-No, we don't because S:JOIN-if somebody want to send a message, they must join and login to the Wiki.

    • If we do want to allow anonymous compliments, we will have to still also allow onymous compliments - people can just include their names in their compliments.

-They can use Scratch profiles to send a message - it's only a Wiki about Scratch.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 17:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

No No clear resolution
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 22:35, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Welcome templates

No Limit not yet negotiated

A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:

That's a lot of welcomes.PNG

10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?

To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.

I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea :) I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can :D?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
It has happened again...
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs  Scratch 
20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different??
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Can't we make a User_talk:ACCEPTEDUSER/Welcomes page?
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,629)) 20:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
That doesn't actually cause a ping tho...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
We could make it ping though if there is someone willing to mess with the code...
Smileycreations15 Profile Icon.png smileycreations15 (talk | contribs) 11:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Block Problems

No Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken
Today I started to finish up the script for How to Evaluate an Expression, and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else — it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in Show preview mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in this forum topic?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this?
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
You can use this page.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...
@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks!
TenType (talk | contribs) 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

TinyPic is closing down

I'm not sure how many pages this messes up but you should all know that TinyPic is closing down :(
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  19:52, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Dang, could you name some examples of pages that use TinyPic?
1a3c5e7g9i's Armemedillo 1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 23:49, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
In case you don't know: Scratch Wiki has its own image hosting (Wiki server) and does not use TinyPic(or cubeupload or anything else) at all.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,080edit 03:11, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
@1a3c5e7g9i I forget the names right now, but theres one about image hosting I know for sure.
@Apple502j I know, but there are informational pages that will be incorrect.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  14:10, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
It looks like Jammum updated Image Hosting: see Special:Redirect/revision/231829. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 14:58, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Oh my god I know (but I use cubeupload). So what should we do?
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 01:25, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Simply put, update the pages that mention Tinypic to say that it's closing down (even though we should've already done that).
1a3c5e7g9i's Armemedillo 1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 19:48, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Yes Problem Solved!
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 22:34, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

AF Link Proposal

For April Fools pages, could we convert regular links in the page to the April Fools one instead, if possible?

But we shouldn't go on a massive editing spree for this - only change the links if we stumble upon them or add new ones.
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:17, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

I think that depends on the person that creates the page, but I think that April Fools pages aren't that huge of a deal to change every link, even if stumbled upon. Also, most pages don't have an alternate April Fools page to begin with.
Jedibrine Logo.png Jedibrine  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  05:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
Support.

Smileycreations15 Profile Icon.png smileycreations15 (talk | contribs) 12:04, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
@Jedibrine: Sorry, by "stumbling upon", I meant when we add/modify the contents of an AF page. I don't want too many edits of just converting links.
Also, this will make AF pages more lively and humorous in a way. I myself have been disappointed in the past clicking on a link on an AF page, but found out that it led to a regular article.
And even if there isn't an alternate AF page, so what? We could just add the regular link for now, and then when it gets created, we could change it.
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:03, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
I thought that on April Fools Day, then if you clicked a link, it would lead to the April Fools version of that page if there is one...
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
22:28, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
No no, that's not what I meant. What I meant was when you click on a link that's on an AF page, it leads you to the regular page, and my proposal is that we should change those links (once again on AF pages) to lead to the AF version of the link, if possible. Even if this could be rendered useless on April 1st, it still would be more humorous for users who browse AF pages.
TenType (talk | contribs) 00:48, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I don't think this is a good idea. What benefit will this bring? This change would mean that on AF Day, every mainspace page would be linking to the AF subpage instead of linking to other real pages. Then any normal user would suddenly be taken to some cryptic page titled "Scratch Wiki:April Fools/Ignatious Q. Higgenbotham" and not know what they were looking at. Plus, the {{April Fools}} template (which is on every mainspace page with an AF version) shows a header saying "this is a joke, scroll to the bottom for the real article"; the {{AF}} template (which is on the AF versions of mainspace pages) does not. Linking to AF versions from mainspace would remove the ability for educators, New Scratchers, and other members of our audience to get some serious help that they just happened to need on AF Day.

That's my two cents.

BTW, @TenType, there's a shortcut for {{th}} for 1, it's {{st}}. There are also {{nd}} and {{rd}} for convenience.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:17, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't think everyone knows what I'm saying. Only on AF pages should we link to other AF pages; why would we link AF pages from mainspace?
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:04, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Dude. AF pages get transcluded into mainspace on AF Day. The links remain unchanged upon transclusion.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
16:09, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Welp, yes, but this would also benefit users who browse AF pages when it's not AF day.
TenType (talk | contribs) 17:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
I don't really know that many people that browse AF pages outside of AF day, and there are ways for people to access AF pages if they really need to. If people want to reach a page on AF day, all they will find are AF pages.
Jedibrine Logo.png Jedibrine  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  04:03, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
I've made a change to the {{April Fools}} template (the one that goes on mainspace) so that it shows a little icon in the top right that links to the AF version. That should make things easier for the minority that browses AF pages, which substitutes the only real benefit of this; therefore I shall consider this Yes Done.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:26, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! August 1th, 2019

Welcome to the 21st Thankful Thursday! August 1st, 2019.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Compliments

The Compliments are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
Mrcomputer1 (talk | contribs)
4199531979353717123 (talk | contribs)
TenType (talk | contribs)
jvvg (talk | contribs)
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The next TT is August 29th. See you then!


Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Yes Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
Isn't that supposed to be August 1st?
TenType (talk | contribs) 17:54, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Split Help talk:Welcome/4

Help talk:Welcome/4 is used by new Wikians to test out using talk pages. But, there is also a real discussion on the page named 'Blanking' (although before the actual discussion, there are a few talk page tests).

I suggest that all test discussions should be moved to its own talk page (that is a sub-page of the real talk page), which could be named something like 'Help talk:Welcome/4/Testing'.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 07:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

They really should!
God286 (talk | contribs) 06:31, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
I disagree - besides posting on talk pages, New Wikians should also learn how to get to them. If they have to additionally navigate to a subpage, they might be misimpressioned that they have to do that with all talk pages. At the most maybe indicate at the top of the page that real discussions should go in a subpage.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:46, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

New Featured Images

No Not done

Hey! Soon, on August 12th, it'll have been a month since we updated the Featured Images yet. This time, I don't want to do them late like I have in the past, so does anyone have any suggestions? :D
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

A photo of somewhere tropical.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
I don't understand - is this a joke (if it isn't, I'm not trying to offend; simply trying to understand)? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
It is.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
The _:))_ emoji. Looks nice and funny.
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 01:23, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
You mean literally feature the :) picture? I guess that works LOL
I'd suggest File:Statistic Rollover Info.png because it looks cool and has a random interesting piece of info :)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:42, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

A-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-archive TIME!

FYI These CPND topics are to be archived:

And don't forget S:CPSYS!
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,080edit 01:51, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Wow, a lot of pages in the Not Done section can be archived! :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:26, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:11, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Minor Change to S:CONTRIB

Yes Done

S:CONTRIB says "Creating an email is encouraged if you haven't already. You will need it if you forget your password.", but the passwords are emailed now, I believe - so I believe it should say something like "Creating an email is encouraged if you haven't already. You will need it to receive your password." What does everyone think? Or am I missing something? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:33, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

It's required.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,629)) 16:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, so maybe we should put "Creating an email is required" instead. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:38, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
I have no objections.  
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,629)) 16:41, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Shouldn't be encouraged since it's mandatory like Banana said.
TenType (talk | contribs) 23:08, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
Right. :) I'll just change it and if anyone realizes that it shouldn't have been done, we could change it back. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:36, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done - does it look okay?
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:38, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Well Yes Done for spotting and fixing that! I'm completely happy with the changes.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
23:39, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Wiki Wednesday - Participate!

Hi everyone!

Those who have been following Wiki Wednesday closely might have noticed that we introduced a new section in July, "Participate!". Our goals are to

  • increase community engagement with the Wiki Wednesday event
  • reduce (the relative amount of) spam on the topic
  • show people that they can use the Wiki to answer many questions
  • get more people interested in joining the Wiki by inspiring them with interesting questions/ topics that need coverage

In July's participate we asked people to ask questions, try to answer them with the Wiki or otherwise answer if they can. We got some interesting questions:

> Answered by wiki

  • Where is the remix tree?
  • What is the Wiki?
  • What is Wiki Wednesday?
  • Who invented Scratch?

> Answered by community

  • Troubleshooting on MacBook
  • Changing the profile picture on a tablet
  • How many studios can someone create?
  • How to make a thumbnail (that is not visible once the Green Flag was clicked) for a project

> Unanswered

  • When are Scratch Updates launched?
  • Branding Tips
  • Project ideas
  • Wall detection platformer tutorial
  • Make a bullet follow a player
  • Full game tutorials
  • How to draw in Scratch
  • What did the ST expect people to do with studios?
  • How to get hacked blocks

As you see some of the unanswered questions could have been answered using the Wiki - oh well, they were burried beneath spam I guess...

This month's Participate! is to give us feedback on last month's participate and Wiki Wednesday in general. It would be great if the Wiki Community could participate :) On the Wiki Wednesday post: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/368257/ post your feedback! You can also make suggestions for future Participat! sections. Or say if you don't think Participate! is useful and try and develop another strategy. Thanks all!

--
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) 17:20, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Cool-cat-emoji.png Very cool!! Even though I didn't participate in last month's "Participate!", I will make sure to participate next time! (This sounds like a great idea btw!) :D
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:44, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Scratch down

Anyone know why the Scratch website is down? I’m at school, so I can’t check the Twitter posts.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs  Scratch 
16:39, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

Hmm, I don't know. When I got on at about 1:10, it said down for maintenance, and then I just checked back to get to the Twitter posts and it's back up again, at 1:11. Weird.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
17:12, 30 August 2019 (UTC)
Maybe your school banned Scratch since there a games there.
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 01:22, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
No, it was down, like down for maintenance. Not banned. I wasn't at school anyway.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
16:54, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
Maybe this?
Jedibrine Logo.png Jedibrine  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  04:41, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
It happened when 2.0 was turning into 3.0, but by the date of the post, I don't think the reason was due to that.
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:02, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Statistics - New Zealand

I think we need to write in this page that New Zealand is cut off massively, and can not really be seen. It's quite noticeable!
God286 (talk | contribs) 06:27, 31 August 2019 (UTC)

Actually, this is a common thing done in corporate - New Zealand frequently doesn't constitute a large statistic, and its presence extends the map a lot, so it is commonly deliberately left out of statistics maps. You can tell the ST to add it back, I guess, for all the good it'll do :P
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:39, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
It's statistics can hardly be seen, due to the fact you have to hover your mouse on a little dot.
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:10, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Giving Credit on the Wiki

No Not done I think that we should make a template for credit like this:

Remix notice 3.0.png Credit to Scratch-Coding for this template.

. It would be helpful. We could use the remix button image instead of the one I have.
Scratch-CodingProfilePic.png Scratch-Coding (Talk |Scratch |(374 edits) 00:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

When and where will it be used?
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,080edit 01:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
What would you use this for, and why? The wiki is a collaboration and we all own a part of it. No one owns a article unless they created it on there userspace where they can so whatever they want with it.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  01:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
Templates are mainly created for mainspace Wiki articles — when and why would this be needed?
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
It would be used on userspaces, giving credit for a image, and giving credit for an example.
Scratch-Coding (talk | contribs) 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
You can use it on your userspace but I don't think it's necessary. Btw: What did you do to your signature? It's broken.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
This wouldn't be that beneficial to the Wiki, especially if it is mostly used on userspace. I still disagree.
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Who would use it?
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't think this is necessary. If you need to credit someone you don't need a template. Furthermore, you wouldn't need to credit anyone on mainspace, this is collaborative and we don't get/need credit for what we write here.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Watchlist token not Working

It claims to let me see my watchlist when I search it on the web, but it shows nothing at all.
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Nope. The token is used for RSS - not web viewing.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,080edit 14:04, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
Oh, thanks!
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:17, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

How to use Scratch to host images?

It says right here that we can host images on scratch.mit.edu, but I don't know how. Could anyone teach me? Thanks!
Congyingzhou (talk | contribs) 13:17, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

You can use images hosted in scratch.mit.edu (project thumbnails, studio thumbnails, user icons, etc.), but you can't upload images there.
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 16:46, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
For example, your user profile picture on Scratch can be found at this link: (look at the url)
Jedibrine Logo.png Jedibrine  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  02:45, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
And Scratch images can also be directly embedded here too :) 17528194_20x20.png
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:38, 22 September 2019 (UTC)
I accidentally embedded it here first when I was trying to show the url lol
Jedibrine Logo.png Jedibrine  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  02:13, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
We are currently coming up with a good way to host future images for our Wiki Wednesday release.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:34, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

Tinkercad Codeblocks

Tinkercad has a new feature called Codeblocks that looks similar to Scratch. It has hat blocks and variables. I think this could have a page on this wiki.
LiamSapp123 (talk | contribs) 19:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)

Does it have a specific connection to Scratch in particular though? We don't have a page on Blockly, even though it's a similar concept (and even though 3.0 has Blockly code in it).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

October 2019 EW Election

Overview

On behalf of all the Scratch Wiki admins and EWs, I am happy to announce that the seventh Experienced Wikian elections will be held in this month of October, 2019.

You can find the most relevant information on the election page: Scratch Wiki:Elections/October 2019 and the nomination page. Visit this page to learn more about being an Experienced Wikian: Scratch Wiki:Experienced Wikians

Rationale

This election is for mostly the same reason as the February 2018 elections. I (kenny2scratch) have now started 11th grade, and the level of stress is really high - this is the year where the vast majority of learning goes on. I'm not withdrawing or retiring from the Wiki like jvvg has, but I will definitely have to be far less active.

Now, the EWs elected in June have done their job very well - but I'm sure they'd love some help. Also, in the last election there was an experience imbalance - the candidates joined the Wiki in 2015, 2017, and 2018; additionally, at the time other nominees couldn't become candidates because of lack of experience. After three months, we feel confident that nominees will have more experience.

Expectations/Hopes

EWs elected in this election should be able to dedicate a set amount of time each day to patrolling edits made that day. Though all edits from each day must be patrolled, the elects need not patrol them all by themselves. Instead, they should coordinate with myself and other admins and EWs to patrol the day's edits.

Elects should also:

  • Know the account request process well (processing account requests is what the entire EW role was created for)
  • Have a certain amount of activity per day outside of patrolling. Edits made in the course of patrolling are usually enough.
  • Know how to gently/nicely/politely correct new users' behavior
    • No: "Please remember to indent. You did not indent on User's talk page."
    • Yes: "Hi, I just saw your message on User's talk page. Your comment was rather [positive adjective], but I just want to mention that when replying to other people's posts we usually..."

Conclusion

Nominations open at 12:00 AM UTC on October 5 (which is 8pm Scratch Time on October 4). Good luck, and may the best candidates win!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:29, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Another one? It feels like we just did the last! Nevertheless, I'll nominate myself when it's open.
MClovers (talk | contribs) 04:38, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
It is unprecedented, to have two elections in such a short time, but the rationale is valid.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:44, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Cool, looking forward to see who the candidates are.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  20:05, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Wow, this quick? I'll be waiting for nominations to open then :D
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:58, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Wait, question for Ken- so EWs will be elected or undecided?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:02, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Whoops, just read the election page. Carry on! :P
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:43, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Yay, I didn't miss it this time...
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs  Scratch 
11:17, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

How do I nominate myself (once the page opens)?
54329 (talk | contribs) 15:04, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
You go to the nomination page.
TenType (talk | contribs) 15:24, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Got it! Thanks! :)
54329 (talk | contribs) 15:39, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

Nominations open

Nominations are now open! Please see Scratch Wiki:Elections/October 2019/Nominations. Nominations close on October 12 (next Saturday).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:40, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Nominations close this Saturday! If you are unsure, you have a little over one more day to make up your mind.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:03, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

Candidates

Nominations are closed! After much deliberation by the admins and current EWs, here is the list of candidates (in alphabetical order) in the June 2019 election:

  • apple502j
  • Jammum
  • MClovers
  • TenType

Candidates: Start writing your speeches! Once you have written your speech and are happy with what it says, post it in a reply here. Remember that speeches must be no more than 108 words and not break any rules stated on the election page. If you like, you can post your speech multiple times - your last reply here that you mark as your official speech will be the speech displayed on the election page. You have until October 19 to write and post and/or revise your speech.

Everyone else: There's nothing for you to do right now - voting starts on October 19. Check back in a week!

(Edit: your speeches will only be displayed on the election page at the start of the voting period.)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:48, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

Hey there! My name's TenType. I have a lot of experience on the Scratch Wiki, such as cleaning up existing articles, helping users around the Wiki, fixing Wiki markup, and much more. Since I'm one of the most active users on the Wiki and moderate every edit that goes into Recent Changes, I believe I would be an excellent fit as an EW for patrolling, handling account requests, and maintaining the Wiki. Lastly, I consider myself to be a hard worker- meaning I would be great for repetitive tasks such as deleting unused/redirecting files. Vote TenType for EW!
TenType (talk | contribs) 21:17, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I'm an well-known apple, apple502j. Being an admin for more than years on Japanese wiki, my knowledge on how to moderate Wiki, including ConfirmAccounts, is so huge. I look at Recent Changes almost every day using my free time and I'm sure I'm the best person for patrolling task. I have created many articles here and joined many discussions around the Wiki since two years ago. Also, my timezone is UTC+9; similar to Ken's, so I can help his jobs at the almost same time. Make the Wiki nice like an apple, by Voting Apple.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,080edit 07:20, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello, Wikians! It is a great honour to be a candidate for this EW election. I have been on the Scratch Wiki for nearly a year (at the time of writing this) made over a thousand edits, so I have enough experience. If I get elected, I will do many helpful actions, such as putting lots of effort into helping out and improving this wiki, answer everyone's questions and more. I will carefully read account requests and fix other's spelling and grammar. Finally, I will aim to be on this wiki daily and will only use new privileges for the greater good of the wiki.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 14:59, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Hi fellow wikians! I'm @MClovers but you can call me Alpha. I'm so happy that I was considered as a candidate for the election! I just want to thank the current EW's and admins for choosing me as a candidate, It means a lot to me! Anyways, let's get onto my speech. I've been on the Scratch wiki for over 2 years now and I've enjoyed every second of it! I believe that the wiki is not just a place to get information but a whole community. Following this belief, I know how to manage online communities. I have a popular community known as 'ShopBux'. I won't get into what it actually is but the core of it is a thriving online community with over 300 pages and around 20 employees. I am a bit of a computer geek as well so I spend a lot of time on my laptop, meaning I am able to be on the wiki on command. Relating to this, my timezone is NZT so you can figure out when I'll be able to get on. I have the ability to correct users politely as I believe that new wikians may be put off if an EW came to them and attacked them. I can easily learn things so this will mean me learning every single nook and cranny of being an EW. Relating to this, I love learning new things so I will enjoy this position. My activity on this wiki will skyrocket as I understand the dedication required to be an EW. I will also try to reccomend the ideas of users to the other EWs and admins. Remember to #VoteAlpha if you want a say in how this online community is run!
MClovers (talk | contribs) 03:49, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
@MClovers, two problems with your speech:
  1. Your username is MClovers, not AlphaZetta. "#VoteAlpha" doesn't really make sense in this context.
  2. The word limit for speeches is 108 words. Your speech is 290 - over twice the limit.
In any case, thank you all for your speeches - you now have until this Saturday to revise them. The last reply of yours here that you mark as your official speech will be used on the election page.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:59, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────<Latest Speech>Hello Wikians, I'm an well-known apple, apple502j. Being an admin for more than two years on Japanese wiki, my knowledge on how to moderate Wiki, including ConfirmAccounts, is so huge. I look at Recent Changes almost every day using my free time and I'm sure I'm the best person for patrolling task. I have created many articles here and joined many discussions around the Wiki since two years ago. Also, my timezone is UTC+9; similar to Ken's, so I can help his jobs at the almost same time. Make the Wiki nice like an apple, by Voting Apple.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,080edit 05:06, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

<Latest Speech>Hi, I'm @MClovers! Thanks for choosing me! I've been on the Scratch wiki for over 2 years now! The wiki is not just a wiki but a whole community. I can manage communities. I have a community known as 'ShopBux'. It's an online community with an active following. I can get on the wiki on command. I correct users politely. I learn quickly so I can get to know the position. I love learning new things so I will enjoy this position. I understand the dedication required to be an EW. I will recommend the ideas of users to wiki staff. #VoteMCL if you want a voice!
MClovers (talk | contribs) 07:51, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

Voting Open

The deadline has passed! The candidates for the October 2019 election have written their speeches. View them on the election page.

Candidates: There's nothing for you to do now but hope. Remember that you are not allowed to do any sort of self-promotion anywhere.

Everyone else: Voting has opened! If your account was created before October 5, click here to vote! Voting closes on October 26.

Good luck to all candidates!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:27, 19 October 2019 (UTC)

Broken Link

In Scratch_Books the link for the book Coding for Beginners Using Scratch is broken. It apears that the company took down the book's page for a new book release which is updated for 3.0 I can never get the web archives to work for me so I thought I would tell all of you to decide what to do.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  21:08, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

I can't find it with the web archiver; it seems like it wasn't notable enough to document. I would suggest removing the book from the page entirely.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:19, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for your advise. Since the book isn't for sale anymore on their website it's probably the right thing to do.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  00:19, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Does Image Hosting page need change?

In the Image Hosting page it seems that Xomf is still under the 'Pending review' section. According to this forum post by Paddle2See, they've tried to add Xomf but it didn't work. I think that this would make the wiki page out of date. Should I change it?
MClovers (talk | contribs) 19:37, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, go ahead.
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  19:51, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Looks like they're trying for imgbb.com right now.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
23:20, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
I know, I started it.
MClovers (talk | contribs) 00:21, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

Show Preview Loading

Is it just me, or is "Show preview" loading slower and slower as time progresses? At first, since I was using a phone to edit, I thought it was just the side effect of editing on mobile. However, I tried using "Show preview" on my two other laptops and the same happened- I clicked "Show preview", then the gray loading circle would pop up. It takes a VERY long time to load and sometimes won't even load at all. If you click on it again, the circle would disappear and the preview would still not be shown. "Save changes" and "Show changes" works just fine. Is anyone else experiencing this and if someone else is, then could this be fixed?

At this very moment, I clicked "Show preview" and it is still loading... and loading... :(
TenType (talk | contribs) 23:45, 3 October 2019 (UTC)

On desktop, works normally for me... loaded as instantly as any other submit function.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:52, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
It's starting to work more often now... probably some issues with connecting or something else.
TenType (talk | contribs) 21:19, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

What happened to link previews?

No Not done They don't seem to be showing up for me at all anymore. Anybody else?
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
02:44, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Same here. Did someone turn it off?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Also not getting previews (or at least when I tried it on Image Hosting, linked above). I'll ping jvvg (since he was the one who enabled them).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Any reply from jvvg yet?
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
01:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Should the EW election nomination talk page be protected from New Wikians?

New Wikians are ineligible from running in EW elections. Should the nominations talk page of it be protected to prevent them from nominating themselves?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 15:37, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

But will new wikians even nominate, that's the thing... Other than that, I think this should happen. It will make things a bit easier.
God286 (talk | contribs) 20:30, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
They will!
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,629)) 20:33, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
Future questions like this go on the election talk page, not the CP.
To answer the question, yes. I've protected it.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
00:25, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Yes Done
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,629)) 15:13, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Delete these files please


Yes Done Can any of you guys delete these files?:
https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/File:My_Broom_I_Guess_(For_April_Fools)_(Dilek10).jpg
https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/File:ALL_HAIL_DA_SEMICOLON!!!!1(Dilek10).jpg
Thanks if you do so.
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 18:25, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

In the future, either post this kind of thing on Admin Requests, or just use the {{delete}} template on the file. Yes Done by banana439monkey.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:56, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

How to make a new page on your account

Yes Done

How do you make a new page on the Scratch Wiki on your account?


Legogo7777 (talk | contribs) 03:23, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi, welcome back to the Wiki! You can just navigate to the subpage e.g. by following this redlink or typing it into the address bar, then editing and saving the page. Hope that helps :)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:43, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

New Curator

The Scratch News needs updated, the new curator is scratch-explored (started Monday, I believe).
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
10:55, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

jvvg is moving his scripts for his bot (see User talk:jvvg for more info). An EW may have to change it for now.
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:13, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

The AF Button

It is very cluttering and bothersome, I don't like it and it confusioning the new members.

Please remove
DeleteThisAcount (talk | contribs) 11:28, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

what in salamander Jimmy's name are you talking about
also nobody will do anything if you ask them like that, can you ask more nicely?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:34, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
I think he means the little teeny tiny April Fools' button? Somehow cluttering pages (in a space that is essentially ineditable)? That we just added?
what in salamander Jimmy's name
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
23:16, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
I think DeleteThisAcount possibly clicked "New topic" or "Send a message" button and could not remove.I will create a topic on DeleteThisAcount's talk page.
what in salamander Jimmy's name(What's meaning of this?)
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 23:48, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
The AF button in the corner is confusing and cluttering pages?
what in salamander Jimmy's name(it means that something could not be understood lol)
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:08, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
"what in the name of X" or "what in X's name" just means something along the lines of "what on earth" - it's a way of emphasizing "what". "Salamander Jimmy" is something Turkey3 once said on the CP.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
12:42, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

Suggestion for a new Scratch block: StringBuilder‎‎

Hello fellow Scratch Wiki users,

I’ve been using Scratch over the past couple of years and I noticed something quite frustrating: Text. It is really hard to portray graphical text in scratch that can easily be modified(ex. a sprite that dynamically changes it’s text based on the user input.)

Right now, there are only a few, limited choices with drawbacks:

1) Using the say block

Using the say block will trigger the particular sprite to mention user-specified text(ex. Hello!). This method is simple, and easily able to dynamically change, but it comes with a few drawbacks. It is really hard in itself to customize the text, in ways like changing the size, color, and font. Furthermore, the text will always appear in a text bubble above the existing sprite, hindering it’s usability in many programs.

2) Preparing code to make dynamic text

In addition, people using scratch can develop their own typography to display dynamically. The procedure can be done by making the 26 costumes in an “Alphabet” sprite either by hand or using the existing typography. After the process, a “cloning” function can be made to generate the desired text. This is the other alternative to using speech bubbles, and it appears in various other types of games. Unfortunately, it is really hard customizing features like size and font, because every other costume will be needed to be changed into the desired style. Moreover, getting the word function to actually work can also be a problem.


A hybrid of some sorts should be made, to further enhance the efficiency of the Scratch language we have come to know and love!

StringBuilder!

My proposed idea, StringBuilder, can be a hybrid between the two options, having the ease of dynamically changing and generating the text itself with having it being it’s own sprite!

To elaborate, StringBuilder should be a special type of sprite put into the “Add Sprite” button, so that users can get it themselves. It should also come with it’s own blocks and settings.

when green flag clicked
set StringBuilder text to [Hello World]
set StringBuilder height = [100]
set StringBuilder font to [Arial v]
set StringBuilder language to [English v]
set StringBuilder color to Red: [0] Green: [0] Blue: [0]
add[hello] to [StringBuilder 1 v] starting at index (1)
remove String at index (1) for [StringBuilder 1 v]
wrap text when <>

I know these blocks aren’t perfect, so I am open to new suggestions!

Thank You, Dewball

Hi Dewball! Sorry, but suggestions for Scratch are more suitable in the Suggestions Forum. I've moved your page to a topic on the CP here. In the future, for Wiki-related topics use the Community Portal. For Scratch-related topics, use the Discussion Forums. Don't create an article about it! Thanks! :)
For other editors who are wondering about this, it was originally created on a mainspace article then moved to a topic here.
TenType (talk | contribs) 03:37, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

AF Home new News

What if we add new News to the April's Fools home?
Scramaso (talk | contribs) 14:06, 22 October 2019 (UTC)