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Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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| 8 August 2018
 
| 400 Bad Request<br/>503 Service Unavailable
 
| I was editing [[User:Kenny2scratch/common.js]], and when I clicked "save page" I hit a "400 Bad Request" error. I pressed the browser "back" button (thanks Chrome for caching form data), and clicked "save page" again, and I encountered "503 Service Unavailable". I went back again, resubmitted, and the edit went through.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 
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| 10:26 AM, 3 September 2018 (GMT)
 
| Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties
 
| I clicked on random page{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 
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| 5:27 PM, 3 September 2018 (HKT)
 
| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties"
 
| I was literally attempting to edit this section. When I clicked the "edit" link, it brought me to a page that said:
 
<big>'''Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.'''</big><br/>
 
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.<br/>
 
<small>(Cannot access the database)</small>
 
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:You can try searching Google in the meantime.<br/><small>Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.</small>
 
{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 
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| 10:07-11:20 PM, 8 September 2018 (HKT)
 
| Major outage across all wikis
 
| Multiple screenshots: [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487987719411204102/Screen_Shot_2018-09-08_at_10.08.33_AM.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487988142184595478/Screen_Shot_2018-09-08_at_10.10.22_AM.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487987682132230148/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487987425193492492/Screen_Shot_2018-09-08_at_10.07.28_AM.png][https://pastebin.com/jkxGm6P4 this is the most useful error][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487988331226071060/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487989244506144775/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487990014861377536/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487990367946407958/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/488005118428577792/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/488005028028874754/unknown.png]
 
  
Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
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== Misdirected Request error ==
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| 10:44 AM, 2 October 2018 (GMT)
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Sometimes, when I go to the Test Wikis and back on an iPad, I sometimes get a '412 Misdirected Request' error. However, this does not happen on a desktop computer. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 17:55, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
| 508 Resource Limit Reached
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:I guess it's happening because of MediaWiki version. Test Wiki is using old version when compared to English Wiki. Also, there can be another reason: Test Wiki has a backdoor for FTP transfer but it has low probability.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 16:12, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
| Edit a user's talk page{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
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::Also, it's '421' error, not '412'.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:26, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
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:::I have this problem too, also on an iPad. I might have gotten it on my computer before, but I don't remember.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 11:17, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
| 4:40 AM, 2 January 2019 (CST)
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::::It happened on my Windows desktop just today. I think the Wifi disconnected when the screen turned off, maybe something similar happened to the iPads? <scratchsig>Jettypumpkin07</scratchsig> 11:32, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
| 508 Resource Limit Reached
 
| Trying to create a redirect page. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
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| 4:58 PM, 8:02 PM, 10:22 PM, 10:25 PM @ 3 January 2019 (HKT); 12:46 AM @ 4 January 2019 (HKT)
 
| 508 Resource Limit Reached
 
<br/>503 Service Unavailable
 
<br/>File upload fail
 
| Frequent outages across all wikis. Most likely caused by traffic spike from 3.0.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
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| 9:12 AM, 4 January 2019 (CST) <br/> 9:17 AM, 4 January 2019 (EST)
 
| "Service Unavailable Error [...]<br/>503 Service Unavailable Error"<br/>"508 Resource Limit Reached"
 
| Trying to enter my talk, kept refreshing until worked, came to CP to log fault. Errors repeated until worked. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
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| 15:02:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
| Fatal exception of type DBQueryError
 
| I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
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| 9:02 AM, 7 February 2019 (CST)
 
| 508 Resource Limit Reached
 
| Trying to go to [[How to Make a Typewriter Effect]]. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
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| 4:50 AM, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
| HTTP error: error
 
| Clicked the ''Show preview'' button while editing [[User:TenType/Header]], when it did not preview and received the error. Clicking the button again resolved the issue. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
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| 11:00 PM, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 
| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."
 
| Literally attempted to access en.scratch-wiki.info and a few other pages, when I received this:
 
<big>'''Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.'''</big><br/>Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.<br/><small>(Cannot access the database)</small>
 
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:You can try searching via Google in the meantime.
 
:<small>Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.</small><br/>
 
Waited for like 10 minutes while reloading and the error finally cleared.
 
<scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 07:17, 25 June 2019 (HKT)
 
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| 08:25, 22 January 2020 (EST)
 
| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."
 
| Tried to navigate to my userpage from another article, and got [https://ibb.co/qMqwN4M the error].{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 13:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 
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| 13:26, 2nd April 2020 (UTC)
 
| 2020-04-02 13:26:04: Fatal exception of type DBQueryError
 
| Pressed the edit box on the wiki sandbox. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 13:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 
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| Sometime around 22:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 
| "MediaWiki internal error. Exception caught inside exception handler. [...]"
 
| Clicked on the Recent Changes link on the sidebar, [https://cubeupload.com/im/bigpuppy/ScratchWikiErrorRC.png screenshot here]<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 
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| 22:42, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 
| "MediaWiki internal error. Original exception: [...]"
 
| Was accepting an account, [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331669762121924608/695401315022536714/unknown.png screenshot here] <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 22:51, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 
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| 18:43, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 
| "Forbidden
 
  
You don't have permission to access this resource.
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== Change external Scratch links to interwiki links automatically ==
  
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
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{{not done}}<br/>It could be helpful. So, I suggest it.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 15:23, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
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:TemplatesFTW [[Special:Diff/254239|already does that]]; or do you mean a different way of automating it? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:02, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
| Whenever you put a template (e.g. <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki>) in the search bar and press enter. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 18:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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::Do you mean that you don't have to use the external link markup when linking a scratch profile, ect...? That could be helpful...{{User:ContourLines/Signature}} 06:57, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
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:::@ContourLines  {{-}} you already don't have to use the external markup. In fact, [[S:STYLE]] says not to use the external link markup (see [[Scratch Wiki:Style Guide#internal-scratch-links|#internal-scratch-links]]). You can use <code><nowiki>[[users:USERNAME]]</nowiki></code> for users, <code><nowiki>[[studios:ID]]</nowiki></code> for studios, and <code><nowiki>[[projects:ID]]</nowiki></code> for projects. Ahmetlii suggested to change external links to these interwiki links automatically, then I said that TemplatesFTW already does it. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:50, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
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::::I actually proposed the Scratch Links and added it to [[S:STYLE]] (: Anyway, I didn't see that TemplatesFTW does that, yea, I think it was good to add it to the bot. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 03:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
| 503 Service Unavailable
 
| Was patrolling Recent Changes, [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/704464708488658995/unknown.png screenshot here] <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 23:10, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
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| 12:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
| Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
 
| Pressed the Recent Changes link in Navigation. [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710107723806801985/710107795734921247/Screenshot_2020-05-13-15-25-09-88.png Screenshot here]<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 12:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
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| 20:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 
| IP ban on three 403s in a short space of time
 
| Perform an action that the server deems to be unacceptable (such as using the search box for queries like <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> and repeat three times. The server will IP ban you, since those 403s appear to be a warning. IP bans typically last a day, and I don't think there is a fix for this, but I'm logging it anyway. Anyone can edit this message to further explain the IP banning, however. Further information may in future help track down our issue and potentially resolve it.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 20:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 
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|2 May 2020
 
|Page content does not update
 
|I was creating [[Language Tutorials/C/HelloWorldExampleProgram]], and when I clicked "Show Preview" the contents I had entered before got shown on both the preview and the editing area! I lost all my work due to that. An important note is that I was on a mobile.<scratchsig>R4356th</scratchsig> 12:55, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 
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|20.05, 10 June 2020 (TSI)
 
|403 Forbidden Error
 
|I tried to send a welcome message to an user's talk page with my [[User:Ahmetlii/Welcome Sender|Welcome Sender]], hit the button and got an error message. Link is [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?action=edit&preload=%3Ccenter%3E%3Cdiv+style%3D%22color%3Agold%3B+background-color%3Awhite%3B+text-align%3Acenter%3B+border%3A+10px+solid+%234d97ff%3B+width%3A+90%25%3B+height%3Aauto%3B+padding%3A10px%3B+border-radius%3A50px%3B+moz-border-radius%3A+50px%3B+webkit-border-radius%3A+50px%22%3E+Welcome+to+the+Scratch+Wiki%21+I%27m+ahmetlii%21+You+can+find+me+at+%5B%5Busers%3Aahmetlii%7Chere+in+Scratch%5D%5D.+Also%2C+my+user+page+can+find+at+%5B%5BUser%3AAhmetlii%7Chere.%5D%5D+If+you+have+a+question%2C+%5B%5BUser+talk%3AAhmetlii%7Cyou+can+send+a+message+to+me.%5D%5D+Also%2C+you+can+ask+to+all+the+Wiki+users+and+admins+in+their+talk+pages+or+in+the+Community+Portal.&editintro=&summary=&nosummary=&prefix=&minor=&section=new&title=User+talk%3AMintlush-&create=Welcome+a+user here.]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 17:11, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 
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|22.02, 16 June 2020 (TSI)
 
|Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
 
|I was in [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Scratch_Trends&diff=prev&oldid=250255 here].{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:08, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 
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:Could we have a dedicated page to that?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Nah, just here is fine.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::{{not done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. <small>(archives)</small> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Not too many right now.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::{{not done|Never done!}} Server faults will always come. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 
:Do we not have [[Scratch_Wiki:Known_Bugs|this?]]{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).
 
::Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::::There are kinda a lot of faults now, I believe we should create another page for it. <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 16:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::I mean, we could always just add /Server_Faults as the path and switch this there. It wouldn't be that big of a hassle, you can just copy and paste it. And there are more and more coming anyways, so it's not oing to be too long before it gets very long.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 10:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::This is so long that it's now a hassle for scrolling through CP. I think we should definitely create another page for it; maybe link to it from the CP? {{User:VFDan/Sig}}
 
{{outdent|6}}I agree with VFDan. We could also just collapse it, although that would not stop it from making the CP loading time longer.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:I collapsed it; I still agree with making a separate page though. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:50, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== List of deleted pages ==
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== [[How to Connect to the Physical World]] Is really outdated ==
{{not done}}
 
  
(Brought up here after discussion [[User talk:Jammum#About your Deleted Pages page|here]].)
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[[How to Connect to the Physical World]] is really outdated. <scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 19:26, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
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:Please use internal links for links to other Scratch Wiki pages. As for this, maybe you could try to update part of it yourself? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:36, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
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::@Jammum Thank you for pointing out the usage of an external link. I've corrected the formatting so that @GrahamSH can see how it is done correctly (@Jammum please wait for an EW/administrator to correct if you see this elseware). @GrahamSH I would ask that you be more specific in the types of changes that we should collaborate in order to accomplish. Thanks <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 17:46, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
  
So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:
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== Would it possible to prevent users from using external links to wiki pages in the AbuseFilter? ==
* [[User:Mathfreak231/Deleted pages recovery|Mathfreak231's]], which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
 
* [[User:kenny2scratch/Deleted pages recovery|Mine]], which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
 
* [[User:Jammum/Deleted Pages|Jammum's Deleted Pages]], which are more recent than either of the above
 
* [[User:Jammum/All Pages That Have Been Deleted|Jammum's All Deleted Pages]], which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)
 
  
I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]].
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Question is in title. If this were to be implemented (if it even is possible), would it apply to all non-userspace or just mainspace? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 10:50, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
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:It's possible but I would never do this because sometimes there's a legitimate use for external links. Possibly an AbuseFilter warning, rather than disallow?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:09, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
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::I am asking about disallowing external links to other Scratch Wiki pages, not all external links.  {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 09:46, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
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:::There is sometimes a legitimate use for external links to the Scratch Wiki, e.g.: [{{fullurl:Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal|action=purge}}]
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:::Unless you're just talking about content pages. Still, though, there are probably some special cases where disallowing it would be inconvenient. A warning might be good, though. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:43, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
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:::: The fullurl template can be used for some of those links that cannot be linked normally, so does that solve the problem? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:38, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
  
;Advantages
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== Allowing borders in custom sigs ==
* More organized
 
* One place for all
 
* Can be updated by anyone
 
  
;Disadvantages
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I think we should allow borders in custom signatures. [[S:CSIG]] states that there shouldn't be borders in custom sigs, but so many people already have it in their signatures (kenny2scratch, 12944qwerty, EIephant_Lover, Dominic305, ahmetlii, ContourLines, ajsya, etc.) As long as the border isn't needlessly large or flashy, I believe it's fine. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 03:14, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
:''None I can think of off the top of my head''
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:I don't recall whether the rule disallows all borders. In either case, though, this is a conflict of interest because I see you have borders in your signature too...
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:I agree, but then again I have borders already as well. I'd prefer if some people without borders contributed an opinion.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:11, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
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::I think it's fine as long as it's not too large or draws any extra attention to the signature. I'm not sure how large "too large" would be though. {{User:Groko13/Signature}} 15:07, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
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:::I agree too; I think also as long as it doesn't break lines (like text shadows) it should be allowed. But I'm biased too because I use them :P{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 16:20, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
  
Thoughts? Shall we do it?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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== Thankful Thursday! August 27{{th}}, 2020 ==
:I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 031}}
::+1 :) {{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::: Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::::To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?  <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::::: I think the page will not be notable enough to go there. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]]. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}I say aye.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:: Are we going to do this? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Okay, I just created a page called [[User:TenType/Deleted Files]], was scrolling through the Community Portal, and found this discussion. {{e|:/}} <br/> Maybe this page could contain pages only and not files? (I really spent a lot of time and effort onto my deleted files page) Anyways, still waiting for a response on whether or not this project will be started. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Why not? It sounds like a great idea; let's get started. How do you guys find deleted pages anyway (just wondering)? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 15:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Why hasn't this happened yet? :P <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 16:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::I don't know, VFDan. It's a good idea, and I would love to see this on the wiki. <scratchsig>Ew10528</scratchsig> 11:55, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Welcome templates ==
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
{{done}}
 
 
 
A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:
 
 
 
[[File:That's a lot of welcomes.PNG]]
 
 
 
10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?
 
 
 
To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.
 
 
 
I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
:I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea {{E|:)}} I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
::I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can {{e|:D}}? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::::While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::[[User talk:StampDanFan|It has happened again...]]{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}
 
maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different?? <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:Can't we make a User_talk:ACCEPTEDUSER/Welcomes page?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 20:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::That doesn't actually cause a ping tho...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 
:::We could make it ping though if there is someone willing to mess with the code...{{User:Smileycreations15/sig}} 11:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::::I was just scrolling through the CP, and this caught my eye. Great idea, I definitely think this needs to be considered. I understand that people are just trying to be kind by sending the welcome messages, but it would almost be like a horror film for the person who owns the account. I think 4-5 welcome templates are enough, but I think there needs to be a break between even those. Getting 4-5 welcomes in a couple of seconds is also not the best of ideas.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 17:55, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::We should ask new users for their opinion on this right after they get the welcomes. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 00:06, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::I think 4-5 is a good limit. I personally liked getting welcomes, but I only got 3 of them. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 14:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::::I'm a fairly new user, and I got 4 welcomes.  It seemed fine for me, so I agree that 4-5 sounds like a good limit. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 01:23, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|7}}How about one or two users post a template, or we just use the automatic one at the top, and then people below can put encouraging words (not large templates) followed by a sig? This would not be too much for the user, but still shows lots of people are there to support them!{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:: Maybe we can create a welcome template, and a bot automatically adds it for every new user.  Any user edit it (just like an article). Maybe there could be in it for all the users that contributed.
 
:: {{#ifeq:|nobr|<br/>|}}[[File:VFDan.png|20px|link=User:VFDan]]{{nbsp}}{{link style|User:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=VFDan}}{{nbsp}}<span style="border: 2px solid cyan; border-radius:1px 0 0 10px">{{nbsp}}{{link style|User talk:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Talk}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;">{{nbsp}}{{link style|Special:Contributions/VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Contribs}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;border-radius:0px 10px 1px 0px">{{nbsp}}<span class="plainlinks">{{User:12944qwerty/CPL|link=https://scratch.mit.edu/users/VFDan|text=On Scratch&nbsp;|color:orange;font-weight:bold}}</span></span>  19:21, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:::[[S:GOODSIG|Please fix your signature!]]
 
:::No, the point of each user having their own welcome template is for them to be specific to the user welcoming - a different message for each one. If they just wanted to add their name to a stock welcome they could reply to the {{t|welcome}} message added by default. However, 10 users posting personalized welcomes is a lot of different welcomes to read - which is why it needs limiting.
 
:::Seems like 4-5 is the limit we've agreed on; for the sake of looseness, '''the limit is now 5 welcome messages at most on any new user's talk page''' (not including the {{t|welcome}} message; does not apply to users created before this decision).
 
:::@Nambaseking01: Limiting the rate of welcomes is a separate topic that should be proposed separately.
 
:::This topic is now {{done|[[S:USERSPACE#User talk pages|Done]]}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Block Problems ==
 
{{Not done|Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken}}<br />
 
Today I started to finish up the script for [[How to Evaluate an Expression]], and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else {{-}} it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in ''Show preview'' mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/292813/ this forum topic]? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::You can use [https://scratchblocks.github.io this page].<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::::@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...
 
::::@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Wait, is it possible to convert forum scratchblocks to wiki scratchblocks???? {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 03:20, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::    <code><nowiki><scratchblocks>define scratch</scratchblocks></nowiki></code>
 
It will give:
 
<scratchblocks>define scratch</scratchblocks>
 
See also: [[Block Plugin]]<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 20:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== New Featured Images ==
 
{{done}}
 
 
 
Hey! Soon, on August 12th, it'll have been a month since we updated the Featured Images yet. This time, I don't want to do them late like I have in the past, so does anyone have any suggestions? {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 
:A photo of somewhere tropical. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 
::I don't understand - is this a joke (if it isn't, I'm not trying to offend; simply trying to understand)? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 
:::It is. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 
:::: The _:))_ emoji. Looks nice and funny.<scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 01:23, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::You mean literally feature the {{e|:)}} picture? I guess that works LOL
 
:::::I'd suggest [[:File:Statistic Rollover Info.png]] because it looks cool and has a random interesting piece of info :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:42, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::It's been August 12th, does that mean this discussion is now for the next featured image change? Or can this be archived?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 18:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Giving Credit on the Wiki ==
 
 
 
{{done}}
 
I think that we should make a template for credit like this: {{User:Scratch-Coding/credit|Scratch-Coding |template}}. It would be helpful. We could use the remix button image instead of the one I have. {{User:Scratch-Coding/Signature}} 00:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:When and where will it be used? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 01:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::What would you use this for, and why? The wiki is a collaboration and we all own a part of it. No one owns a article unless they created it on there userspace where they can so whatever they want with it.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 01:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Templates are mainly created for mainspace Wiki articles {{-}} when and why would this be needed? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::::It would be used on userspaces, giving credit for a image, and giving credit for an example. <scratchsig>Scratch-Coding</scratchsig> 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::You can use it on your userspace but I don't think it's necessary. Btw: What did you do to your signature? It's broken.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::This wouldn't be that beneficial to the Wiki, especially if it is mostly used on userspace. I still disagree. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent | 6}} Who would use it? <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:Yeah, I don't think this is necessary. If you need to credit someone you don't need a template. Furthermore, you wouldn't need to credit anyone on mainspace, this is collaborative and we don't get/need credit for what we write here.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::Giving credit is not needed in mainspace and can be done manually:<br>
 
[[File:remix notice 3.0.png|100px]] Credit to [[User:Scratch-Coding|Scratch-Coding]] for this template.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:41, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Let's go ahead and consider this {{done}}.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 17:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Tinkercad Codeblocks ==
 
 
 
Tinkercad has a new feature called Codeblocks that looks similar to Scratch. It has hat blocks and variables. I think this could have a page on this wiki.
 
<scratchsig>LiamSapp123</scratchsig> 19:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:Does it have a specific connection to Scratch in particular though? We don't have a page on Blockly, even though it's a similar concept (and even though 3.0 has Blockly code in it).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::Maybe we should have one about Blockly <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:31, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::I agree that we should make one on Blockly. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 01:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 
::::{{not done|Further discussion needed}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:11, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== What happened to link previews? ==
 
  
{{done}} They don't seem to be showing up for me at all anymore. Anybody else?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 02:44, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 
:Same here. Did someone turn it off? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 
::Also not getting previews (or at least when I tried it on [[Image Hosting]], linked above). I'll ping jvvg (since he was the one who enabled them).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Any reply from jvvg yet?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 01:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Have you found any information on this yet, anybody?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 23:22, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::It works again for me now! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 21:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::Works for me too!{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 23:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}{{cool|Same}} I guess this is {{done}} now, then? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 00:55, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:Yes, it has begun working for me again :) Updated.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 04:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
==Scratch program image==
+
The next TT is, September 25{{th}}, see you then!<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 00:05, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
{{not done}} <br />
+
:{{not done}}<scratchsig><scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig>
The image showing the scratch program should be 3.0, not 2.0, right?
 
<scratchsig> Mohie </scratchsig>
 
:Not necessarily, we use the 2.0 version for historical references. So, we should have to images for this. One for 3.0, and one for 2.0.
 
:Also, could you link to what you're talking about, please? It would be so much easier for someone to know what you were talking about easily.{{unsigned|12944qwerty}}
 
::He meant the picture of the Scratch program shown in [[Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents]] needs to be updated to 3.0. Could an admin do this? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 23:25, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Okay... So is there going to be another section for 3.0, or is 2.0 going to be merged with 3.0?
 
:::And also, TenType is correct. I do mean the SW TOC.
 
<scratchsig>Mohie</scratchsig> 16:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Scratch Wiki Adventure ==
+
== Time for some more...images that will be featured! ==
 
{{not done}}
 
{{not done}}
  
On Wikipedia, there is an option for new Wikians to complete the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Adventure Wikipedia Adventure].  This teaches them skills and covers all the basics of using Wikipedia.  I think it'd be a good idea to create a Scratch Wiki Adventure of our own to teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki.  This would include editing tips, rules, etiquette, etc.  I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on this idea and/or if anyone would like to work with me on creating this.<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 17:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
+
I don't know, I had to think of another title idea. {{e|:P}}
:<b>+1</b> {{e|:D}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::I hope you're prepared to put in the amount of work involved, because The Wikipedia Adventure is really involved (I've [[wikipedia:User:Kenny2wiki|done it]] once before) and a lot of stuff has to be created for it to work. I like the idea, but I don't know if anyone here has the follow-through to actually focus on a project like this that could take a week or more to make.
 
::If you think you can commit yourself (and furthermore get others to commit themselves) you can make a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]] of it. Good luck!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Woohoo; we got bureaucratic approval!  I think we can do it (maybe not ''as'' well as the Wikipedia Adventure, but still good).  I'll start thinkin' up some basic ideas to start us off.  If anyone is interested in working with me on this, please let me know on my [[User talk:54329|talk page]]. {{e|:)}}<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 05:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::: Isn’t this going to be a duplicate of the  [[Help:Welcome|welcome tutorial]]? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:41, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::No, the Wikipedia Adventure is really involved and more interactive. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 06:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::Adding on, when I did it, it felt a lot more like a game/activity than a guidebook.  It allows the user to actually collaborate, talk to people and create/edit a page all in a sandbox setting.  It helped me learn the basics of Wikipedia far more than a guide could (probably because I was really interested in it and getting those shiny badges was nice).<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 06:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
{{Scratch Wiki:Scratch Wiki Adventure/project}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:I can help some tech stuff maybe? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 17:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::I can help too! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::I want to help too, so should I add myself or should 54329 do it as he's the owner? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::::In reply to both of you: Thanks for offering to help out!  I'll add both of your names to the list.  For future people that wish to help: feel free to just add your name under the "Assigned" section. <scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 05:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::I just took a quick glance at the Wikipedia Adventure, and that looks cool! I created a very different page a while ago with the same goal of educating New Wikians using a sort of quest system - you can check it out at [[User:Bigpuppy/Quests]]. {{e|:)}} It seems like this would be very different than that, though. {{cool|Good idea}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|5}}That's super cool that you made a quests page.  This will be semi-similar.  Feel free to stop by if you have any ideas for it. <small>''wink wink''</small><scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 08:03, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Moving Plural page titles to singular ==
 
{{ done}}
 
On the wiki, there are many page titles like "Blocks" and "Numbers". This makes it confusing to users and editors, as well as links. "<nowiki>[[Block]]s</nowiki> makes a link to singular that appears plural, but there is no equivalent for singular-appearing plural-leading links.
 
 
 
This is a big change in the Wiki, so further discussion will be needed to manage the moves.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 
:Could we start a Scratch Wiki Project? I  definitely think we should keep the pages consistently singular. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 02:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 
:: Singular page titles would seem strange, since the plural describes a general thing, there is not only one. Also, I fixed a spelling mistake. {{unsigned|Congyingzhou}}
 
:::Many page titles cannot be made into plural form. Having both plural and singular forms is confusing and creates other problems. Singular page titles are also easier to work with, as I said in my first post. Also, remember to not change other users' posts without permission.
 
:::Should I put {{t|move}} on the plural pages?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I'll put the template on as soon as possible (on the bottom){{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 03:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Next time, don't add {{t|move}} to all of them; either move them all right away or wait. It makes a bunch of edits in Recent Changes which will all need to be undone when the final decision is decided. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:02, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::So should we move them or not, and how will we do it? We will also need to fix many links and redirects.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::::Or should we just mark the pages and get a bot to move the, fix all the redirects and links, and change any other issues?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}}
 
{{outdent|7}}
 
So should we move any of this pages? It's been over 2 months now. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 21:31, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:I guess it depends on context  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 21:26, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== 2.0 Image Updating ==
 
 
 
A lot of images here need updating to 3.0. For example, the editor in the TOC, many Scratch Cats, etc. When will this be done? <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 10:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
:I've asked an admin to update the TOC image.  Not sure about the other ones. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 16:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 
::There's not a set time when this will be done. It will be done gradually. Any time you see an image that needs updated, feel free to update it (but be sure to compress, crop, etc. the file).{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 01:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Thankful Thursday! January 30{{th}}, 2020 ==
 
{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 025}}
 
 
 
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
 
 
 
The next TT is February 27{{th}}. See you then!
 
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 
:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Why won’t this table work? ==
 
{{not done}}
 
 
 
Link: [[User:Waffle_Iron_Studios/ScratchNet shop page]]<scratchsig>Waffle_Iron_Studios</scratchsig> 21:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
 
: I think it's because the table does not have any line-breaks. See [[Help:Tables|this]]. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Thankful Thursday! February 27{{th}}, 2020 ==
 
{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 026}}
 
 
 
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
 
 
 
The next TT is March 26{{th}}. See you then!
 
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== New Featured Images ==
 
{{done}}
 
 
 
Does anyone have suggestions for new featured images after these ones have run their course? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:52, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:We should really have a better system for suggesting featured images... {{e|;)}} (see [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]])<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::I agree. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::What does everyone think about this one?
 
:::[[File:Animate a name tutorial.png|150px]]<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:12, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::+1, that image looks good. I'm quite partial to this one:
 
::::[[File:MakeItFlyTutorialTipsPage.PNG|200px]]
 
::::I also like the look of this image of the ST:
 
::::[[File:Scratch-team.jpg|300px]]
 
::::How does everyone feel about these?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 21:53, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::<small>lol did you see my message to RC stalkers</small>
 
:::::I like those - I don't necessarily think we should have two "ST Tips" images though, so I think we should choose one more.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:42, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::How about this one?
 
::::::[[File:Sig Change.png|170px]]<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:34, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}<small>yes I did :P</small>
 
 
 
+1 to that image highlighting the signature. This should be useful to answer all the forum questions about signatures!
 
 
 
I think we'll go with the two images that you've suggested and the one of the ST. Can we get an admin to update this please? :){{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 22:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:{{done}}. Does it look okay?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:59, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::Yep - looks great!{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 08:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== IWB Interwiki Check ==
 
 
 
Hello everyone. It's been awhile since IWB has scanned the wikis for interwikis to add, and now is probably a good time to do that!
 
 
 
Below you'll find a list of proposed edits from the bot. It would be helpful if a few people could look at some proposed edits and double check them for errors:
 
 
 
[[User:InterwikiBot/Proposed_Edits]]
 
 
 
Several issues have already been discovered:
 
 
 
* Not properly handling empty interwikis, ex <nowiki>en:</nowiki>, see the ja homepage
 
* test -> tw
 
* The bot is proposing adding interwikis to other pages when they already have an interwiki for that language
 
* Help:Namespaces has a flat out wrong interwiki suggestion
 
 
 
This might take another round or two to remove perviously undiscovered bugs, but with the wikis growing more complex, it's important to get them now. Thank you <scratchsig>ErnieParke</scratchsig> 01:37, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Advertising article ==
 
 
 
We really need to overhaul [[Dexter_Industries_GoPiGo_For_Raspberry_Pi|this article]]. A lot of it is just advertising the product. For example, do we really need a "Buying" section? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 23:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:[[Scratch Bit]] has also a buying section. But the entire page is just an ad. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 08:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::I've moved the GoPiGo article to the creator's userspace (which has precedent - see the last topic on [[User talk:DexterInd]]) and removed the categories & advertisement notes.
 
::Scratch Bit is an official Scratch product and must be documented. It stays.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Sonic the Hedgehog ==
 
 
 
Right now the wiki is saturated with Sonic the Hedgehog stuff, specially the AF pages. Lots of example of stuff are Sonic stuff. The entire wiki feels like an indirect Sonic ad. We should change a lot of this examples. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 11:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:Other than April Fools pages, could you give a few examples? <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 13:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::Just wiki search Sonic or Hedgehog. Also a lot of examples are by PrincessPandaLover and need to be changed int more generic stuff. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 14:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:::If I'm not mistaken, the Sonic stuff is limited to only AF pages. It's fine to gradually phase AF pages away from Sonic content while making other edits to the pages, but don't go mass editing out Sonic stuff. (Do note that I don't really see a problem with a Sonic theme in AF pages lol){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I agree. PrincessPandaLover has always been an excellent editor - they enjoyed to utilize the Sonic theme within their edits. {{smile}} {{done}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:10, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German ==
 
 
 
Currently, the links under the 'Legal' category do not are not mentioned that they are in German. I suggest that the footer mentions that the content under the Legal category are in German.
 
 
 
Without mentioning that, some people might be confused that they are in German, and not English. They also [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 105#Privacy Policy Article|cannot be translated into English]] without it being inaccurate. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 13:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:Why would they be German?<scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 16:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::The Wiki servers are located in Germany and therefore follow the rules/regulations of Germany. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Would you be amenable to using the [https://example.com external link marker] on them instead? Putting "(German)" on a footer link seems unorthodox...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::::The servers are German because they are owned by Martin Wollenweber, who lives in Germany.<scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 11:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::::: Maybe the Privacy Policy and the Disclaimers can be individually labelled that they are in German, or is that still 'unorthodox'? They could have 'in German' put in brackets after them. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 13:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::I think it's fine the way it is, but it should get translated for other wikis so we know what happens to our data.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 17:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 
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Did you read the OP? They can't be translated accurately.
 
 
 
Having a notice at the top of the actual pages saying something similar to what I say on my userpage (the "many other wikis link here" thing), ideally translated into everything, would also be fine for me - I'm only opposed to changing the footer.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Updating Translators page ==
 
 
 
The Scratch Team is no longer actively maintaining the translators page https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Translators
 
 
 
I'd like to remove the Scratch Team only badge and allow folks from the translation community to update the page. Ideally there would be just one or two people per language that would keep things up to date for their language.
 
 
 
Would there be a different process for translators to join as a wiki editor? Are there different suggestions for having the translators page managed by the community?
 
 
 
Thanks,
 
--Chris
 
{{unsigned|Chrisg}}
 
:Ok! I'll remove the banner at the top of the page for you. As for the translation community updating the page, we can not allow a different application processes for translators joining the wiki, though they are welcome to follow the current application processes and join the wiki that way. Also if they chose not to join they can always leave a post on the [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/294197/ Community Portal in the forums] with what should be updated and one of our editors will happily make the change. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::How will you let all the translators know they can use the Scratch CP, or join the Wiki for editing the page?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 15:41, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::The translators have internal commmunication mechanisms including email blasts via transifex or messages in slack. I believe that Chris can easily relay the message to the translators if necessary. {{done}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:09, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Turbo Mode ==
 
 
 
{{done}}
 
 
 
[[Single Stepping|This article]] is very outdated, I believe we should create an article on Turbo Mode itself. <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 22:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:I agree - there is an article about [[Detecting Turbo Mode]], but there doesn't seem to be one about Turbo Mode, as [[Turbo Mode]] just redirects to that article. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::The problem seems to be fixed as there is now a template saying it is from a historical perspective. <scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 18:06, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::There is - however, I don't believe that is the problem here. I think the problem VFDan is referring to is that there is not an article about Turbo Mode.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:11, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::That is what I am referring to; I believe we should create an article about Scratch 3.0's Turbo Mode <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 00:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::You could create an article entitled "Turbo Mode (3.0)" and redirect Turbo Mode to that page instead of to the historical page. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::Created the [[Turbo Mode (3.0)|page]], and changed the [[Turbo Mode|redirect]]. However the page is in dire need of expansion. <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::::Marked as {{done}} however the article still needs expansion {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 19:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== How to make a quiz ==
 
 
 
[big] What Is A Quiz? [/big]
 
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:This isn’t the purpose of the Community Portal. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::I was actually just about to make a tutorial for that. What a coincidence~! {{smile}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::: [[Creating a Quiz]] already exists. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 16:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I've redirected [[How to Make a Quiz]] to [[Creating a Quiz]]. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 16:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Hi, please don't make topics on Scratch-related topics on the Scratch Wiki! For that, you can go to the Scratch "Help with Scripts" or "Questions about Scratch" forums: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/7/ https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/4/<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 15:39, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::@Jammum I meant on my website :) (it's been created). I'm going to call this topic {{done}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:07, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== WikiMonitor is hurting me ==
 
{{Done}}
 
 
 
Wow, so I just added the <nowiki>{{Done}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{-}}</nowiki> templates before the title of a message, and I signed my message under it. The only thing is, I accidentally forgot to add the done thing, so I had to edit my post and put that there. That message was from Wikibot. And ''then'', when I did that, I got another message from WikiMonitor saying that I didn't sign the post meanwhile I'd just added the templates to the title.
 
 
 
Now, maybe this sounds very stupid, but I'm pretty sure I've done this before and WikiMonitor didn't come at me like that. What's going on?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 15:37, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:The problem is that you forgot to sign the edit where you added {{t|done}}, which caused WikiMonitor to message you. I've left a tip on your talk page <small>(wow you already responded to it)</small> <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 16:20, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:: I am a fast clicker when it comes to messages on the SW (I feel strangely lonely here XD)<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 09:43, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Well, I guess this is {{Done}} now.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 12:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Lancer PFP trend ==
 
 
 
In the last few days, a PFP trend about Lancer from Deltarune has been on many Scratcher's PFPs. They normally replace the eyes and mouth of their face to Lancer's eyes and mouth. @-BoyMcBoy- was the first popular Scratcher to do it, and he got the face from @MusicManJoe. Is this notable enough to add to the Scratch Trends page?
 
 
 
<scratchsig>PaddlerGames</scratchsig> 12:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:I have not seen this trend at all on Scratch.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 02:56, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::Neither have I{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::I have not personally seen it myself, although I can confirm that it does appear to be a trend. I have seen and responded to almost a dozen or more forum topics asking about this trend.{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 19:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Scratch Wiki YT Channel ==
 
Hi everyone! I wanted to put a little feeler out there to see who was interested in participating/creating content for a possible Scratch Wiki YT Channel. We would publish wiki-like content within YT's video format. We could then link to this content from within the Wiki. You could for example create a Scratch tutorial, run-through a certain block or feature, or discuss a recent community venture you participated in. If y'all are interested in seeing this idea come to fruition, please comment to express your interest and volunteer yourself for content creation. Thanks! <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 14:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:I think that this would compete with the [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Scratch Wiki Adventure|Scratch Wiki Adventure]] though... {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 15:04, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::I don't really see much benefit in it. Why would we need this? We already have Wiki Wednesday.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Well we would be able to produce varied content aside from Wiki Wednesday. People have also suggested tutorials for S:WELCOME to me privately. We'd be modeling it in some regards to Wikipedia's YT Channel. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 16:32, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I'm interested! But... What do you mean by "volunteer yourself for content creation"? Is there a specific page to apply? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}}
 
:::::I'm interested too {{-}} I'd like to help make a few videos. I already have a YouTube channel but I can't share it because of my real name and face reveal. I'm just ten years, but I don't think that will affect anything as I enjoy talking on-camera and a lot of people tell me I have a talent for vlogging / gaming (not to brag though). I also have a Scratch tutorial series, so I already have some experience with it.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 09:18, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Scratch Links ==
 
{{done}}
 
 
 
Maybe we can add a new brackets thing for Scratch Links. For example: <code><nowiki>[[Scratch/User:Example]]</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>[[Scratch/Project:Example]]</nowiki></code>. For other links, we could just do <code><nowiki>[[Scratch:{stuff after scratch.mit.edu/}]]</nowiki></code>. Thoughts? {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 23:30, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:My reasoning for this is that it looks much better if it looked like an internal link instead of an external link. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:: That sounds like a good idea! <scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 20:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::"Scratch/Project:" is too long of a prefix IMO and also they shouldn't have caps. I've been considering adding <code>project:</code> and <code>studio:</code> - is there any other type of thing on Scratch that gets linked to often?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 00:53, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::: Well we already have Discussion Forums, possibly <code>user:</code>? I don't know how often this would be linked to though. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 14:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC){{outdent|4}}
 
 
 
I created a template for Scratch links [[Template:Scratch|in here]] and it worked. Everybody can use it with this code:<code><nowiki>{{scratch|write there your link code(when you write studios and projects' code, don't use their names)|write in there why are you using it:user,studio,project}}</nowiki></code><scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 20:20, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:Ahmetlii, please correct me if I'm wrong, but your template still seems to produce external links. VFDan is suggesting a system that would produce internal links. I've re-marked this section as {{not done}}.
 
:<small>Also, a template-related thing: you put <nowiki><onlyinclude></nowiki> tags around the <nowiki>{{/doc}}</nowiki>, but they should have been <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> tags, because you don't want to include the doc in the template. Overall though, nice template! {{e|:)}}</small><br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:40, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::(I've fixed the <nowiki><onlyinclude></nowiki> error)<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Thanks for edits Bigpuppy. I saw your edits and my mistake. My template is still a temporary solution because it's pretty new template and including problems. I will remove external links as soon as possible.<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 21:06, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::: EWs or above can just set up [[Help:Interwiki|Interwiki]] to do links to projects, users, and studios. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:16, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::A quick correction - it looks like [[Special:ListGroupRights|only bureaucrats]] can edit Interwiki data.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:30, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::<code>user:</code> won't work - that conflicts with the User: namespace. I've added <code>project:</code> and <code>studio:</code> now, though. We'll need to figure out an alternative for linking to Scratch users - maybe <code>users:</code>?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:47, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}What about <code>profile:</code>?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:09, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:^^^ <code>profile:</code> should work. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:17, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::Yea <code>profile:</code> seems good. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 15:24, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Alright, {{done}}! I've also added a general-purpose <code>scratch:</code> whose argument is just the path after the slash - <code><nowiki>[[scratch:conference]]</nowiki></code> produces [[scratch:conference]].{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:40, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Thanks! This will be really helpful for editors! {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 16:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Added it to [[S:STYLE]], at [[Scratch Wiki:Style Guide#internal-scratch-links|internal-scratch-links]]. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 23:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|:::::}}
 
TenType pointed out something very relevant - [[Project:104]] links to [[Scratch Wiki:104]]! I'd forgotten about this - "project" is a namespace alias for whatever the meta-namespace is. I've renamed <code>project:</code> to <code>projects:</code> to get around this; and for consistency, <code>studio:</code> is now <code>studios:</code> and <code>profile</code> is now <code>users:</code> (the last one because "users" isn't a namespace while "user" is). The <code>scratch:</code> prefix remains unchanged. FYI!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:24, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:{{cool}} Thanks, TenType and Ken.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Thankful Thursday! April 30{{th}}, 2020 ==
 
{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 027}}
 
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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If you have any ideas for [[Scratch Wiki Home/Featured Images|featured images]], feel free to post them below! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:58, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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:<s>I think we should feature an image of the [[S:CPND]] discussion that suggests adding a designated page for featured image suggestions.</s> {{e|:P}}
  
The next TT is May 28{{th}}. See you then!
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:I think that [[:File:Comment Activity.PNG|this image]] is nice, but perhaps we should update it (and the other images on [[Scratch Statistics]]). {{User:Groko13/Signature}} 03:51, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 14:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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::I'm thinking [[:File:P2S_is_a_bunch_of_fluffy_kittens.PNG|this image]] is good enough to be featured.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 07:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 14:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::<s>@Groko13 {{-}} yes. {{e|:P}}</s>
::I don't know if MakeTheBrainHappy wants to fix this, but It says "...brings '''there''' own ideas" where it should say "...brings '''their''' own ideas" :P{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 18:13, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::How about [[:File:Flag as Inappropriate.png]]? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:05, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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::::+1, but first change the file's name with a consensus.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 16:56, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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:::::(Update: [[:File:Flag as Inappropriate.png]] is now [[:File:Report Project.png]].) {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:44, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
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::::::[[:File:Flag as Inappropriate.png]] also needs to be updated, the report button was moved.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 01:36, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}'''+1''' for the report project image!
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<br/>@Dominic305 Added the template to [[:File:Report Project.png]]. Someone can update it if they wish. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:52, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
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:{{done|Updated}} {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 18:53, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
  
== Can someone please help ==
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== RfC about the usage of fixed with in ScratchWikiSkin2 ==
  
Can someone protect [[User talk:Dilek10/Archive 1|this talk page archive]]? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 11:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hello all. As you may have noticed, ScratchWikiSkin2 seems to used a fixed width (similar to Fandom's Oasis skin), as a holdover from previous skins designed to look similar to scratch.mit.edu -- however, I and several other users have noticed an increasing number of problems using fixed width. Fixed widths generally leave a large amount of the screen entirely unused, and show a small amount of the page content. It also introduces design problems that rely on fixed width and break for some users. The current, fixed width style, looks a bit like [https://i.imgur.com/xavOxGN.png this]. I am proposing to use free-styled width based on the screen resolution (a mockup something like [ https://i.imgur.com/UEd14yX.png this], ignore the blue line, that is accidental and will not be shown in the final version). This allows for a larger content space, as well as making the view more consistent across skins. Please let me know if you support or oppose this proposal. <br/>[[File:Naleksuh.jpg|20px]] [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User_talk:Naleksuh#top|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/Naleksuh|contribs]]) 00:44, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
:{{done}} - in the future please place such requests on [[S:CPSYS]].{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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: Addendum: I would also appreciate if all could specify what skin they use when commenting? (The information is helpful, most are likely either using ScratchWikiSkin2 or Vector, but others like me primarily use Monobook). <br/>[[File:Naleksuh.jpg|20px]] [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User_talk:Naleksuh#top|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/Naleksuh|contribs]]) 01:12, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks, and alright! {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 11:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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:I support. Fixed width looks <i>terrible</i>. (Reply to the addendum: I use SWS2) {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 01:08, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
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:(SWS2 user) Consistency across skins is completely irrelevant - consistency with the Scratch website is more important. We use fixed width to emulate the mainsite, which does the same. If you want free width, you can make a user CSS file for it.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:50, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
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:: I personally am of the belief that consistency with the Scratch website is "completely irrelevant" -- this is a third party site with different needs and goals. This is where a lot of the design has been poured into as well, such as by changing the header to a different color. There does indeed appear to be support for increasing the width apart from Kenny2scratch's comment. However, custom CSS files are not relevant here as what is being discussed is not personal views (I use Monobook) but what would actually improve the skin, primarily to those logged out and browsing the wiki. <br/>[[File:Naleksuh.jpg|20px]] [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User_talk:Naleksuh#top|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/Naleksuh|contribs]]) 17:50, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
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::: I agree with the above statement. I have an <s>ebic gamer</s> HD monitor, and SWS2 is tiny on my monitor. There are at least 500 pixels of free space. It almost looks like it was designed for a tablet (it fits perfectly on iPadOS). This is the reason why I use Vector because it takes up almost all of my monitor space. You technically ''could'' make a CSS script for it, but the majority of users here (not everyone) don't know any other programming languages and/or markup languages than Scratch. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 15:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::If you like Vector, use Vector. If you like SWS2 enough to keep using it but also want non-fixed width, then use user CSS. For those not logged in, fixed width is what they get, because that's what they'll be used to from the Scratch website. I don't consider fill width an improvement, only a matter of preference. Find me examples of people (who have no relation to you) actually asking for fill width SWS on, say, the forums, and then it'll be more worth considering.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 15:45, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::::I support. While garnetluvcookie said it looks like it's designed for a tablet, personally I prefer setting zoom to 75% or 85% on most pages. However setting the zoom on the Wiki causes content to get squished and lots of tables (including on File: pages) to overflow into the empty space. And on my 1080p display, it looks like a site designed for computers from 2009.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 17:31, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
  
== Scratch +  the Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics by Stephen Wolfram==
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== Centralized Cross-Wiki Discussion ==
Hi everyone! I've been asked to give you a heads up about an excellent program over on the DE Wiki: [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Scratch-Wiki:Scratch_Club Scratch Club]. I've been a few times (and would love to attend more) and the discussions relate both the Wiki and fascinating technology. The meetings are for international audiences as well with English as a standardized language. Here is a little sneak peak as to what they will be discussing at the next meeting taking place on May 20th, 2020 at *6:30 G.M.T - 8:30 C.E.S.T (Germany)*.
 
<br>
 
* Offtopic: https://youtu.be/60P7717-XOQ (Stephen Wolfram: Computing a Theory of Everything) - This month Stephen Wolfram presented a breakthrough in his thoughts concerning the creation of an entirely new model of the world based on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automata_theory Automata Theory]. He thereby wishes to better explain the laws concerning space, time, energy and matter in a clearer light than previous models. In this manner he is one step closer to achieving his life goal which he presented in the TED-talk linked above ten years ago. Here is his presentation from 4/14/2020 in which he explains his theories as well as he can and affords all interested listeners an opportunity to share his joy in the solution. If his theory is correct, it may be a breakthrough as great as that of Newton and Einstein. Fascinating! https://youtu.be/rbfFt2uNEyQ (Wolfram Physics Project Launch: 14. April 2020)
 
* The topic above isn't *offtopic* at all but a great idea for us! Who will find the Scratch program that best interprets "Rule 30"? Or who will program it? Who will write a Scratch Wiki article for it that is of such quality that it will be in Wiki Wednesday for both the English and German Wikis at the same time? *This must become a theme within the Scratch community* Why? It is the best example for Scratch's motto: "low floor high ceiling." Every student can appreciate "Rule 30" and even program it, but the implications point to a "Theory of Everything."
 
** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_30 (EN)
 
** https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regel_30 (DE)
 
** https://youtu.be/VguG_y05Xe8 (Cellular Automata and Rule 30 (Stephen Wolfram)  AI Podcast Clips)
 
** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton
 
** [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Conways_Spiel_des_Lebens Conway's Game of Life] (Artikel here with the most relevance - DE only)
 
** https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/388985821/ (the first Scratch project I discovered)
 
** What Stephen Wolfram has discovered now after fifty years of research efforts and the subject of his new book being published at the end of May is a setup for Cellular Automata with which you can model everything from particle physics to cosmology... but now we are desperately looking for the "correct rule." This would be an analogy to the previous "Rule 30" that inspired Stephen's interest to study this new field of science: "the complexity theory."
 
** Here Stephen Wolfram explains why he decided to make his quest (essentially the search for a new Rule 30 that explains what holds the world together) a public project: https://youtu.be/DwjAVp0ig9g (Wolfram Physics Project: Why we Chose to do Science in the Open with Q&A on the Backstory)
 
** Book Recommendation 1: „ Stephen Wolfram - 2020 - A Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics“ - Das Buch will be published at the end of May https://www.amazon.de/dp/1579550355/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_NkRQEb52WCN8C
 
** Book Recommendation 2: „Stephen Wolfram - 2016 - A New Kind of Science (English Edition“ (Ein 10 cm thick doorstopper (very thick book), that has so many pictures it is a sight to behold even for those without perfect English reading comprehension) https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B01N1I83V8/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton - Reference: „Wolfram has conjectured that many class 4 cellular automata, if not all, are capable of universal computation. This has been proven for Rule 110 and Conway's Game of Life.“
 
** https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zellul%C3%A4rer_Automat - within this article it discusses “Wolframs one-dimensional Universe“ (+ Rule 110)
 
** https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=E8kUJL04ELA&list=PLt5AfwLFPxWIL8XA1npoNAHseS-j1y-7V (Playlist - John Conway on Numberphile including „ Does John Conway hate his Game of Life?“ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Horton_Conway - John Horton Conway (* 26. Dezember 1937 in Liverpool, United Kingdom; '''† 11. April 2020''' in New Brunswick, New Jersey, United States) was a British mathematician.
 
* Determine the "Scratch Project of the Week"
 
* Suggest Wiki-Wednesday Articles
 
* [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Vorlage:News&action=edit ggf. Post the News! (DE)]
 
* Go through the latest messages, specifically [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Spezial:Letzte_%C3%84nderungen], review author task list [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Scratch-Wiki:Links_f%C3%BCr_Autoren]
 
<br>
 
I hope that you find these topics interesting yourself and mark down the time to join the meeting! Please let [[User:MartinWollenweber|@MartinWollenweber]] know if you are interested in joining the group where the discussion will take place. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 15:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:@Makethebrainhappy: Thank you very much for translating and sharing with the english Scratch Wiki Community! I hope this idea is as interesting to some of you as it is to me. Hope some of you "catch fire" and start their own creative activities. What do you think? {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::...I keep wanting to join, but I'm afraid I've been struck down once again by the time - 8:30pm CEST = 2:30am HKT ._.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:43, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::IMHO it‘s not important, to join the scheduled german Scratch Club Onlinemeeting, but to consider if and how we integrate Stephen Wolframs breakthrough into Scratch and Scratch Wikis activities. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 04:58, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::'''@Makethebrainhappy:''' Would you mind if we change the subject to " Sratch +  the Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics by Stephen Wolfram" ? It's more about that than about the "Scratch Club Meetings (DE)"... {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 18:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::No, not at all. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:39, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::Thanks, [[:de:SC]] will start next week Wednesday 20.5. at 20:30 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Time Makethebrainhappy knows how to join (please don't share our Google Hangout Link public!!) {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Revamping and Reviving [[S:CPND]] ==
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Hi everyone,
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<small>Yes, I know there are already two topics about this, but this one has a very specific suggestion that can be implemented relatively quickly if people agree.</small>
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Since all of the various Scratch Wikis are hosted on the same server and part of a common community, they have a number of things in common, including outreach efforts (such as Wiki Wednesday) and technical aspects. This means that some changes (especially technical ones) will affect ''all'' wikis, not just the Wiki for one language. We usually like to seek community feedback before implementing major changes, but currently there is no centralized place to do that between all languages. As a result, changes either do not get community input at all or just get input from the community for one language (usually English, i.e. this one). We do have the [[:tw:Test Scratch Wiki Home|Test Wiki]] for both new language-specific Wikis off the ground and coordinating cross-wiki stuff.
  
As you probably know, there's a section of the CP specifically for topics that are not yet done and haven't been done for a while. Users can access it by going to [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done]] or [[S:CPND]], or alternatively via the "Things to Do" link under "For Editors" in the sidebar. The unavoidable fact is that these topics hardly ever get looked at. By anyone.
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Therefore, I propose making it so anyone who has an account on ''any'' language-specific Wiki may have an account on the Test Wiki (you would still need to request it, but you can just say "I have an account on [language] Wiki") and that we host all cross-Wiki discussions there. Announcements for any major discussions would still be posted on the English Community Portal so everybody remains aware of any active discussions without having to check the Test Wiki Recent Changes.
  
There have already been two topics created about this issue and how to solve it, [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Not Done doesn't get enough attention|Not Done doesn't get enough attention]] and [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Not Done|Not Done]]. Kenny2scratch introduces his topic (the former one) with "So I was browsing through Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done and realized that all of the discussions had been moved there and left to rot simply because they happened to last longer than an archive period." The unfortunate thing is, this is still happening. And not only that, but ironically, it's happening to both of the topics I linked. Ken's is from February of ''(drumroll, please)'' 2018. I am not about to propose a "cure-all" solution to this problem, but something that ''could help.'' In other words, it definitely won't solve the problem, but it might assist a bit in solving it.
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Thoughts, everyone?<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 01:39, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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: I think this is a great idea. Probably because I helped with writing the proposal, but good! <br/>[[File:Naleksuh.jpg|20px]] [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User_talk:Naleksuh#top|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/Naleksuh|contribs]]) 01:41, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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::I also think this is a great idea! It's important that we have a place for conveniently discussing matters that involve all the wikis, and this would provide that place. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:44, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::I agree with this as well! {{User:Groko13/Signature}} 01:57, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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:Handy links to the discussions on the other wikis about this:
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:* German: [[de:Scratch-Wiki Diskussion:Gemeinschafts-Portal#Zentralisierte Cross-Wiki-Diskussion]]
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:* Indonesian: [[id:Pembicaraan Scratch-Indo-Wiki:Portal Komunitas#Diskusi Lintas-Wiki Terpusat]]
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:* Russian: [[ru:Обсуждение Скретч Вики:Портал сообщества#Централизованное кросс-вики-обсуждение]]
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:* Japanese: [[ja:Japanese Scratch-Wiki:議論の場#一元化されたクロスWikiディスカッション]]
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:* Dutch: [[nl:Dutch Scratch-Wiki:Gebruikersportaal#Gecentraliseerde cross-wiki-discussie]]
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:* French: ''(no discussion as of posting)''
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:* Hungarian: ''(no discussion as of posting)''
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:* Test: ''(no discussion as of posting)''
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:The discussions on the other wikis link back here (since jvvg used Google Translate to translate this version into each language). I wanted to post these here so that the users reading this topic can see what the users on other wikis think about this idea. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:29, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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:: This idea would benefit a lot. Also, I have a question about this: would the cross-wiki discussion be separate from the Test Wiki community portal, or would they be on the same page.
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:: I also wrote earlier in a probably now archived topic that I was not planning to join the test wiki, but if this gets implemented, I might join to take part in those discussions. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:28, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::The French Scratch Wiki now has a discussion about this here: [[fr:Discussion Scratch Wiki en Français:Accueil de la Communauté#Centralized Scratch Wiki Discussions]] {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:28, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::Also, the discussion on the Japanese Scratch Wiki was moved to this page: [[ja:Japanese Scratch-Wiki:議論の場/一元化されたクロスWikiディスカッション]] {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:31, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::: I have another question about this idea: if this were to happen, would any language be used (I myself do not speak any language other than English fluently) or will only English be used in cross-wiki discussions? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 17:19, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::::I support, even though I already have a test wiki account {{e|:P}}. Also, we should consider modifying common.js so it shows "Test" rather than "Twi" in the left sidebar, but I'll add that as a proposal to the new Test Wiki CP when it's set up. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 19:29, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|::::::}} (Level of indentation is to reply to OP) Question about the Request on Test Wiki thing; I have moved since I requested, do I have to request an account for this account, or can I use my new account? <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 15:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
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:I support, maybe we should make a single sign on so when you have a wiki account you automatically get a test wiki account.<scratchsig>Acebsa</scratchsig> 20:57, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
  
Well, let's get onto the idea already, shall we? I think that when people ''do'' hear about Not Done, and go to it (wanting to contribute to a discussion), they may get frightened by the overwhelming length of some of the topics and leave without contributing to any of them. Therefore, here is my suggestion: we put each ''discussion'' ''(not'' its corresponding header) into an "extended content" box using <nowiki>{{collapse top}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{collapse bottom}}</nowiki>. Then under the header, but ''not in the "extended content" box,'' we add a short, one to three sentence summary of what the OP is saying (and perhaps even more things, like what has been discussed so far). I've created a mockup with two discussions [[User:Bigpuppy/CPND Mockup|here]].
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== An idea ==
  
I think that this way, when folks go to [[S:CPND]], they can easily find a discussion they'd like to contribute to (without being scared away quickly). Then, when they find a discussion they're interested in, they can un-collapse the box and read the replies so that they can give their opinion. They won't be scared away because they didn't see ''tons'' of long discussions at the same time, they just saw short suggestions. Then they see ''one'' long discussion after they un-collapse the box — the one they're interested in.
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Hi everyone,
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I had an idea recently to make a way for non-wiki editors to suggest changes if they don't want to go through the hassle of making a wiki account. Maybe a google form or something that editors can look at and, if needed, make the change.
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<scratchsig>Acebsa</scratchsig> 04:12, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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:: Scratchers are allowed to suggest changes through the Scratch Wiki's forum topic. <br/>[[File:Naleksuh.jpg|20px]] [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User_talk:Naleksuh#top|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/Naleksuh|contribs]]) 04:16, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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::: For reference, the Scratch Wiki forum topic is located [[topic:294197|here]]. It is also used to ask questions about the wiki as well. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:20, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::The issue with that, I found, is that few actually know about it and the non-wikian posts are just random questions about scratch in general.{{User:ContourLines/Signature}} 16:36, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
  
What do you think?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:03, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
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== [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 107#Tell users on Wiki Wednesday topics not to spam in replies]] continuation ==
:+1 :-) {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::I have the same opinion with Bigpuppy, also I have a suggestion: We can archive some of the Not Done topics, because they are not discussed actively and some of them outdated.[[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not_Done#Not Done doesn't get enough attention|It's still a big problem.]]<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 20:09, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Hmm, I like the idea but looking at your mockup I'm not sure how well it'd work in practice. I feel like it might be a better idea to let the OP(ost) of each topic be the summary, and rather collapse away all of the subsequent discussion so that it's easier to scroll past. If the OP(ost) itself is really long, then I suppose a manual summary might be in order, but unless the OP(oster) is inactive then it might be a good idea to let them do the summarizing themselves to best capture the essence of the idea. Does that make sense?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:37, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Yeah, I definitely see what you're saying. What defines "really long" though? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:20, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Whichever human happens to be making the collapsing edit - there doesn't need to be a boundary, just leave it up to the judgement of whoever is doing the moving :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::'''+1''', the mockup looks great! {{e|:D}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 20:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}To clarify, do you agree with Ken's idea as well, TenType? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:Yes, I think the OP should be part the summary except in situations when its long. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:45, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::<small>that was fast</small>
 
::Okay, thanks for clarifying. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Alright, since there were no objections, I went ahead and collapsed (almost) all of the discussions on CPND. The two ones I didn't collapse were #custom signatures and #Account Request Notes because they caused the whole page to go into the collapsed box. If anyone can find the issue, feel free to fix it and collapse them. Thank you! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:46, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Pretty much {{done}} other than the above<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Why is the interwiki link for the Test-Scratch Wiki the language code for Twi? ==
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I am just reviving the discussion  mentioned in the title above because it was archived and it did not seem to be completed. Also, on the latest Wiki Wednesday topic, no notice in the first post telling Scratchers not to spam in the topic was put in.
  
The interwiki code for the Test Wiki is 'tw', and the 'in Other Languages' section of the homepage says 'Twi', again with a link to the Test Scratch Wiki.
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In the discussion linked above, I mentioned some examples of what the notice would mention as being spam. I also think posts only saying 'Hi', 'Hello' or something similar could also be mentioned as being spam. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 15:37, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
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: Isn't it just common sense ''not'' to spam?  It's already against the CGs, so I don't see a use for it or it's because I stalk the Announcements forum, get a first-page post, and move on. It could be useful to the 5 year-olds here that need a notice saying "Don't spam, it's sUpEr AnNoYiNg!11!!1" <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 15:42, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
  
On it, there is no Test-Wiki for Twi, which seems to be an African language spoken in Ghana. If there is no Test-Wiki for Twi, why does the Interwiki link to the Test-Wiki use its language code? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 09:22, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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== RfC about User:Gdpr000001, User talk:Gdpr000001 and <s>S:B</s> redirects ==
  
:Actually, I saw it before in Wikipedia's ISO 639-3 language codes list a week ago, and I was going to say that. I think this code designed from  '''T'''est Scratch '''Wi'''ki. However, I think that it's not a big problem for now. <scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 11:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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As explained in the title, these are discussed on their related talk pages and [[User talk:Ahmetlii]], but I'd like to an RfC for solving the question.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 06:27, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
::<code>test</code> is not an inter-''language'' code, so it's impossible to link to (say) the Test wiki CP using <code><nowiki>[[test:Test-Scratch-Wiki talk:Community Portal]]</nowiki></code> the same way we can for real languages. However, <code>tw:</code> happens to be a real language, whose language code is recognized as an inter-language code, whose language code can nicely stand for "test wiki", and whose language name can be repurposed to mean '''t'''est '''wi'''ki. If we ever do have a wiki in the actual Twi language, then things will have to change; but for now, we use "Twi" as a means of treating "test" as an inter-language link rather than inter-wiki.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:33, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
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: The first two have already been discussed at [[Talk:Gdpr0000001#Removing_several_redirects_to_this_page]] to delete, neutral on where S:B is targetted. <br/>[[File:Naleksuh.jpg|20px]] [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User_talk:Naleksuh#top|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/Naleksuh|contribs]]) 06:29, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::But also, the discussion about gdpr has a few users and only 2 active users(me and Naleksuh), this doesn't mean a consensus because it goes to a discussion between two users.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 06:34, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
  
== Featured Image Suggestions? ==
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== Suggestion: Resolved and Unresolved Templates ==
{{done}}
 
  
Hey, folks! Does anyone have any suggestions for featured images for the next time we update them? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:How about this?
 
:[[File:Color adjuster.png]]<br/><scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 20:45, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::I like that one! How about this one?
 
::[[File:Scratch 3.0 Sound Recorder.png|330px]]
 
::If we ''do'' choose both of these, though, we should choose something not from the editor for the third one. This will provide some variety.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Didn't the sound recorder picture already get featured? It has the category [[:Category:Featured Articles/Images]]. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I didn't notice that, lol. I wonder why it doesn't have the {{t|Featured}} template then?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:56, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe it was forgotten or something {{e|:P}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:58, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::Well, now it does. {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}How about this one?<br/>[[File:Welcoming Committee.png]]<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:11, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:Looks good! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 03:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::Hey, maybe this as well? [[File:Pen_stats_change.png]]{{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 06:34, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::I like that one!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::{{done|Featured Images updated}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:08, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
== What are... ==
 
 
...common.js pages for? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 08:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:[[Special:MyPage/common.js|Your common.js file]] is a {{wp|JavaScript}} file that will run on all pages, no matter what skin you're using - but only for you. It's basically a Wiki-specific alternative to userscripts that MediaWiki supports natively.
 
:[[Special:MyPage/common.css|Your common.css file]] is a {{wp|CSS}} file that likewise applies to all pages you visit on all skins, only for you.
 
:Changing "common" to the name of a skin, e.g. "scratchwikiskin2" will make it only apply to all pages when you are viewing them in that skin.
 
:There are also [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] and [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] files (as well as their skin-specific equivalents) that run on all pages for all users. These can only be edited by admins.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::Oh, so it's a customizable... Wiki theme, right? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 13:20, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Not really... it's basically a script in {{wp|JavaScript}} that runs on every page you visit. To "customize" your Wiki theme, it would be easier to do it in [[Special:MyPage/common.css|Your common.css file]] {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::That means it can be used for things such as detecting stuff like viruses, right? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 18:46, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
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No because they are applying for this website. Also, every user can customize and every user can add pop-ups, warnings when they logged in but nobody cannot detect viruses with these files. For example, [[fr:Scratch_Wiki_Accueil|there is a pop-up]] made with JavaScript file in right bottom.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
 
== Suggestion: Add a "sandbox" option in the user pull-down on the header ==
 
 
{{not done}}
 
{{not done}}
  
My suggestion is above {{-}} that's pretty much it. When you click on your username, you would see your username, "Talk," "Preferences," "Watchlist," "Contributions," "Log out," and "Sandbox" thrown somewhere in there. "Sandbox" would direct you to your personal sandbox, not the public sandbox. If the user hasn't created their sandbox, it would direct them to the page to create it.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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There are many discussions on talk pages on the wiki that get abandoned until someone discovers them again. Wouldn't it be helpful if we had a list of all the pages with unresolved discussions that have yet to be finished? Here are some advantages to a list like this:
:Sounds like a cool feature. +1! {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 17:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::I think it's a good idea, but I think we can create a disambiguation page rather than direct to the personal sandbox. However, +1!<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 18:14, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Wikipedia has this, but this is actually harder to implement than you might think - the skin does not hardcode the user dropdown links, they are generated by MediaWiki itself. Adding the sandbox link would require a hook somewhere in LocalSettings.php and that might mess up some rhythms. There could be a link in the For Editors box, though! [[Special:MyPage/Sandbox]] is a handy link. What say y'all?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 18:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Ah, I see. I think that's a good alternative then! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:48, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Good idea! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 18:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|5}}
 
+1!{{e|:)}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:Ken, any update on this? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 00:30, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== sooo idk if this is off-topic ==
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* In many cases, discussions won't get abandoned without being documented as unresolved discussions somewhere.
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* Users who want discussions to contribute to can just look at the list for some unresolved discussions.
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* It would improve the wiki's organization.
  
but lookie here alright I constantly go active and off-topic on the Scratch Wiki depending on my mood, but I still help a lot on the Scratch discussion forums in the meantime. is this an issue?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 18:21, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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I think one way we could implement a system like this would be with two templates: {{t|unresolved}} and {{t|resolved}}.
:Why would it be?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 18:23, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:You are not under any obligation to stay active - if you need to take a break from Wiki editing, do. Edit when you feel like it. We don't block people or anything for being inactive.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 18:33, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Studio Articles ==
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The {{t|unresolved}} template would mark the discussion with "unresolved." It would also add the page to the hidden category [[:Category:Pages With Unresolved Discussions]], and provide a link to the category. If the page was in the "User talk" namespace, it would not be added to the category. This is so that if users want to use the templates on their own talk pages, they can, but users looking for discussions to participate in won't have to dig through user talk pages. There would also be a <code>cat=no</code> option to manually prevent the page from being added to the category. I've created a draft of this template at [[User:Bigpuppy/Unresolved]]. Note that the category part is commented out right now, so that pages don't get added to a nonexistent category. If this suggestion gets accepted, it will be un-commented.
  
Hi! I was wondering if people can write articles on studios on the Scratch Wiki. The guidelines say if you are not allowed to advertise users or user-generated content. Does this apply to studios? I don't think it does because a Wikian wrote an article about the Scratch Design Studio. It merely explains what the SDC (Scratch Design Studio) is. So my question is can you write an article about a certain studio? Without advertising it of course, but merely explaining what the studio is and its purpose. I don't think I'll be writing any studio articles anytime soon but an answer would be much appreciated. If you would like to answer me on my talk page the link is [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/User_talk:J_Coder26 here] <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 21:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26
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The {{t|resolved}} template would mark the discussion with "resolved." It would have a <code>date</code> parameter that would show when the discussion was resolved. Resolved discussions would not be added to any category (unless that is something we want). I've created a draft of this template at [[User:Bigpuppy/Resolved]].
:Articles about user-generated content (whether projects, studios, or anything else) are not allowed. The Scratch Design Studio is not user-generated content as it was created by the Scratch Team.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::That said, [[S:NOSP|there are some exceptions]].<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::What about the Scratch Welcoming Committee? Or is that an exception? <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 21:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26
 
::::The Scratch Welcoming Committee is also an official Scratch Team studio, so it is not user-generated content. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Really? I didn't know that. I thought it was user generated but had a few ST members as managers. I don't really pay much attention to studios. <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 21:45, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26
 
::::::Hi, please remember to indent properly - you can find a guide for indenting on [[S:WELCOME|the Welcome tutorial]] or [[Help:Talk Pages]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:29, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Please help me ==
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Here are answers to some questions you may have:
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;Don't we already have the {{done}} and {{not done}} templates?
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:Yes. However, those templates don't have all of the functionality that the {{t|resolved}} and {{t|unresolved}} templates would provide. If we added this functionality to the {{done}} and {{not done}} templates, all of the discussions that were not actually marked {{done}} but still have the template on them (e.g. if the template was used in casual conversation) would be added to the category.
  
'''Hello''' I am mastercoder4life. I am a new wikian and didn't understand the welcoming pages too well. Could someone please tell me how to insert a link? <scratchsig>Mastercoder4life</scratchsig> 23:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
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;Would these templates replace the {{done}} and {{not done}} templates?
:Hello, Mastercoder4life! Welcome to the Scratch Wiki! {{e|:)}}
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:No. Those templates would still be used in casual conversation and in tandem with the {{t|resolved}} and {{t|unresolved}} templates (e.g. "is this conversation {{done}}?"). The {{t|resolved}} and {{t|unresolved}} templates would be used more formally at the top of discussions.
  
:On the wiki we have two types of links {{-}} '''internal links''' and '''external links.''' You use internal links when you're linking to a page on the Scratch Wiki, Scratch, or Wikipedia. You use external links to link to any other sites.
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;Would use of these templates be required?
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:No. However, it would be recommended, so that the page gets added to the category of pages with unresolved discussions.
  
:To make an internal link, you use this syntax: <code><nowiki>[[NAME OF PAGE|LINK TEXT, IF APPLICABLE]]</nowiki></code> For example, if you wanted to link to the page about the Scratch Team, you'd do this: <code><nowiki>[[Scratch Team]]</nowiki></code> That would make this: [[Scratch Team]] Or you could do this: <code><nowiki>[[Scratch Team|ST]]</nowiki></code> That would make this: [[Scratch Team|ST]]
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;Would anyone be allowed to add these templates to any discussion, even ones they didn't create?
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:Yes. Similar to how the {{done}} and {{not done}} templates are used now, anyone would be able to mark a discussion as resolved or unresolved, even if they didn't create it.
  
:You make an external link with this syntax: <code><nowiki>[URL LINKTEXT]</nowiki></code> For example, if you wanted to link to example.com, you could do this: <code><nowiki>[https://example.com/ Example]</nowiki></code> And that would make this: [https://example.com/ Example]
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;The drafts you created look curiously similar to the {{t|shortcut}} template.
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:That's because I based part of their code on the {{t|shortcut}} template. {{e|:P}}
  
:For more information, visit [[Help:Links]].
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{{user|Kenny2scratch|name}} implemented semi-similar templates at [[User talk:Kenny2scratch/Permalinks]]. They are similar in that they are templates located in the top-right of a discussion and show whether the discussion is done or not.
  
:Again, welcome to the Scratch Wiki! We're happy to have you here! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 23:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
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So, thoughts? Do you like the idea? Do you think it could use some improvement? Do you think we shouldn't create these templates at all? Please share your thoughts below. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
::thanks so much!<scratchsig>Mastercoder4life</scratchsig> 00:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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:We already have S:CPND as a "unresolved" placeholder archive. I didn't see any usage of it unless marking "resolved" and "unresolved", and this gets another question: Will it be done or will not? (like 1 and 0, not includes 2 or 4). I don't think it's not important enough and @Kenny2scratch is using his permalinks to "never done" topics. I can support never done but not resolved-unresolved. Any opinions?{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:57, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
:::In the future please indent your replies, one more colon before each reply. I fixed your last comment for you, but in the future please indent. Look at the syntax for this conversation to see what I'm talking about, and for more information see [[Help:Welcome/4#Indenting]]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 00:21, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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::[[S:CPND]] isn't really relevant here because this wouldn't necessarily be used on the CP (but it could); the main purpose is for things like article talk pages. Could you clarify what you mean in the rest of your comment? Also, [[User talk:Kenny2scratch/Permalinks]] includes done topics; look at the statuses on the right of each discussion. However, that was just an example. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:03, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
::::Hi mastercoder4life. To learn how to link click [[Help:Welcome/2|here]]. Thank you for your contributions to the wiki : ) <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 02:09, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::I don't think it's necessary for article talk pages, because they don't need an archive or a job queue. It's not necessary as I think and said before.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 06:59, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::Thank you for your opinion. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:29, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::::You're welcome. {{e|:)}} {{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:30, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Couldn't we just add the functionality to {{t|done}} and {{t|not done}}? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 20:01, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}Please see the answer to "Don't we already have the {{done}} and {{not done}} templates?" in my original post. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:41, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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:True, but you also stated that we could use <code>cat=no</code> as the default cat option. That way, all you'd need to do for casual conversation is add {{t|not done}} on the section. But on an "official" conversation, we would add <code>cat=yes</code>.
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:2 questions though: Would only {{t|unresolved}} add to a category? And, doesn't adding to a category add the entire page? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:00, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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::Oops, first question has been answered as soon as i posted lol <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
  
== Privacy policy in English? ==
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== GitHub interwiki links ==
  
The "privacy policy" link at the bottom of the page is in German. Is there one in English?<scratchsig>Donotforgetmycode</scratchsig> 08:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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There seem to be a lot of GitHub links (including references) to the Scratch Wiki. Although the URL is not very long, maybe LLK github links (and maybe other github links) could have an interwiki link made for them (such as gh-llk, not 'gh' due to the presence of non-LLK github links as well). {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:48, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
:No, it's discussed in the past, and admins don't want to change it because of the laws and problems about the translation. See also [[Scratch_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Suggestion:_Mention_that_the_Privacy_Policy_and_Disclaimers_are_in_German|to here.]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 08:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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:I don't think so. Github is an external link, even its links host Scratch repos. They may cause confusion. Plain links are a better solution.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 06:52, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
::Oh, OK. I still don't understand why it's dangerous to translate it.<scratchsig>Donotforgetmycode</scratchsig> 17:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::You don't speak a foreign language then; some things are '''''very''' tough'' to translate. One single error in translation could basically destroy this site. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 18:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== macOS drops support for Scratch 1.4 on versions 10.14 and 10.15 ==
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== About updating MediaWiki ==
  
Several replies in [[topic:406141|this forum topic]] say that macOS 10.14 and 10.15 drop support for 32-bit apps, including [[Scratch 1.4]] and obviously other 1.x versions. The end of support for 32 bit apps on 10.15 is mentioned on Apple Inc's website [https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208436 here].
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TL;DR: We're doing some tests to update MediaWiki due to some problems. Probably the wiki shut down for a few hours when it's ready to be installed. (Note: This is not an official explanation because made by me, so may be ignored)
  
Where in this wiki should that information be put? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 11:56, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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As the developers, we're currently experiencing some problems on general extensions due to errors; and to solve them, we're thinking to upgrade our wiki to 1.35. This upgration will change a lot of things, from icons to security patch; so we're doing patches to ensure that our extensions will work successfully. When all preparations are completed, probably someone from admins will make an explanation.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:46, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
:Of course, the Scratch 1.x pages.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 12:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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: Where did you get the information about the MediaWiki update here? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
  
== New Scratch Wiki Logo? ==
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== Megathread: MediaWiki Version Bump ==
  
Hi!
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TL;DR: We're upgrading to MediaWiki Version 1.35. Date: (to be determined)
I think that because the main page of the Scratch Wiki and the scratchblocks have the new 3.0 style, why not the logo? I think that the Scratch Wiki logo needs an update. It has the old 2.0 style, and 2.0 is long gone. Please tell me your thoughts on this!
 
<scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 00:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:...? The Wiki logo currently uses the 3.0 version of the Scratch logo for the word "Scratch". Keep in mind that the [[Scratch Website]] had parts in 3.0 styling long before 3.0 came out.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:28, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::Oh, never mind, I see the difference now. Still, there's no need for a new logo - this one works perfectly well and isn't completely outdated (like the old favicon was).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:51, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== How to find user rank? ==
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=== Why upgrade? ===
{{done}}
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Currently we're using MediaWiki 1.28, which is unsupported. This caused some problems and MW 1.28 is also incompatible with some extensions. This is why we upgrade to MediaWiki 1.35, a LTS version soon to be stable.
  
I joined the wiki nineteen days ago but I do not know my user rank (what is that called exactly?). How do I find it?
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=== Timeline ===
<scratchsig>R4356th</scratchsig> 17:43, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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Time not set, but this is a big project which can take weeks.
:Hello, R4356th. If you go into [[Special:Preferences|your preferences]], it will show all of the user groups you are in (under "Basic information"). For a list of possible user groups and the rights that come with them, view [[Special:ListGroupRights|this list]]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::Thank you, @Bigpuppy.<scratchsig>R4356th</scratchsig> 12:04, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Are "Public Sandboxes" Allowed? ==
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=== Checklist ===
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Extensions and Skins:
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* {{done|Compatible}} ScratchWikiSkin2
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* {{done|Compatible}} ScratchLogin (patch applied to fix warning)
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* {{doing|Incompatible}} ConfirmAccount (new version WIP)
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* {{done|Compatible}} Report (patch needs review)
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* {{done|Compatible}} ScratchSig
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* {{not done|Incompatible}} EditAccount
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* {{done|Compatible}} ScratchBlocks4
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* {{done|Compatible}} RecentChangesWebhooks
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* {{done|Compatible}} VisualEditor (but sb blocks will be only seen as string)
  
Hey, basically, can we have a userpage that everyone can edit? In this case, can we make a user sandbox a public sandbox? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 16:34, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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Bots:
:New Wikians can't edit others' userpages by default; to remove this restriction on one of your userpages, add {{t|open userpage}}. As for whether what you're talking about is allowed, I don't see any problem with it. However, if someone else sees one, please point it out. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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* {{done|Compatible}} InterwikiBot
::Thank you! That's what I meant. {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 17:06, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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* {{done|Compatible}} TemplatesFTW
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* {{doing|Internal errors}} WikiMonitor (has problems about dependencies)
  
== Problems about mobile devices ==
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Misc:
{{done|probably done}}
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* {{done|Compatible}} Special:BlockList patch - new version created
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* {{done|Compatible}} Common.css
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* {{doing|Incompatible}} Common.js (sigwarn is problematic)
  
When I'm making a edit in the Wiki, I sometimes see that my edits has a lot of paragraph error. I didn't do them on keyboard, but I saw an added space or a paragraph. For example, when I write "some times", it can seen as "evetimesry". I have no idea about why this problem is occurring, but it's a big problem when I write.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:39, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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{{collapse top|List of all extensions and skins installed on all wikis}}
:This is likely a problem on your end. Try updating your system. You can also try switching the editor to plain-text mode using the colorful button on the top of the textbox.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 14:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
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Status: C - Compatible, I - Incompatible
::Thanks. My system is up to date. I think it's related to editor's mode. {{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 08:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
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* C: Cologne Blue (en)
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* C: Modern (en)
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* C: MonoBook (en)
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* C: ScratchWikiSkin2 (en)
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* C: Vector (en)
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* C: CategoryTree (en)
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* C: CheckUser (en)
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* I: ConfirmAccount (en)
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* I: EditAccount (en)
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* C: Interwiki (en)
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* C: Random In Category (en)
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* C: Report (en)
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* C: ScratchLogin (en)
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* C: CharInsert (en)
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* C: Cite (en)
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* C: CodeMirror (en)
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* C: InputBox (en)
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* C: ParserFunctions (en)
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* C: RandomSelection (en)
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* C: mw-ScratchBlocks4 (en)
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* C: SyntaxHighlight (en)
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* C: NativeSvgHandler (en)
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* C: AbuseFilter (en)
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* C: RecentChangesWebhooks (en)
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* C: WikiEditor (en)
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* C: DismissableSiteNotice (en)
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* C: EventLogging (en)
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* C: Google Analytics Integration (en)
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* C: GuidedTour (en)
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* C: DynamicPageList3 (de)
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* C: EmbedScratch (de)
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* C: EmbedPhosphorus (de)
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* C: EmbedVideo (de)
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* C: Labeled Section Transclusion (de)
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* C: Lockdown (de)
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* C: Admin Links (ja)
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* I: Contribution Scores (ja)
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* C: MassMessage (ja)
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* C: Newest Pages (ja)
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* I: ImagePagePrintLink (ja)
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* C: ImageMap (ja)
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* C: OpenGraphMeta (ja)
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* C: YouTube (ja)
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* C: RelatedArticles (ja)
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* C: AutoSitemap (ja)
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* C: BetaFeatures (ja)
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* C: Description2 (ja)
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* C: Disambiguator (ja)
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* C: GuguruSearch (ja)
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* C: InterwikiSorting (ja)
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* C: RevisionSlider (ja)
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* I: SearchStats (ja)
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* C: TextExtracts (ja)
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* C: Loops (fr)
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* C: WikiSEO (fr)
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* I: HeadScript (fr)
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* C: HitCounters (test)
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== Thankful Thursday! May 28{{th}}, 2020 ==
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=== Discussion ===
{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 028}}
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This is gonna be big. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 08:24, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 
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: Question: Is Vector going to be compatible with it? I sometimes use SWS2 but I mostly use Vector on my laptop. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 13:43, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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:: @garnetluvcookie: Definitely because MediaWiki uses Vector as default.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 13:45, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 
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::: Thanks! <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 13:55, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
 
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::::While we are doing this, can we add the VisualEditor? I have used it at snapwiki.miraheze.org, and it works great! I'm so excited for this update! <scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 22:27, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
The next TT is Wednesday, June 24{{th}}, in conjunction with the 50{{th}} Wiki Wednesday! See you then!<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::We are planning on adding the Visual Editor, however a bit of adaptation is necessary. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 01:03, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Why is the VisualEditor incompatible with ScratchWikiSkin2? As far as I know, (and I've been exploring this) the skin has all of the necessary hooks. Has anyone tried it? <scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 16:21, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
::Yay!{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:41, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::::@GrahamSH: I tried and tested. I know it has all necessary hooks, but also it cannot simulate the editing visually(because our skin is restrictive). We (as all developers in the Wikis) are looking for compatibility.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 16:25, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
 
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:::::::Update: VisualEditor is working currently with a few unimportant things like sb is not seen as block.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:14, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
== Scratch Archive ==
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{{outdent|7}}(Remember to outdent at 6) What changes are there between 1.28 and 1.35? I know there's visual editor but I'm not sure what else.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 00:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
The old Version of the [[Forum]] is archived here: https://scratcharchive.asun.co/forums/ (as far as I know it changed url several times, but I'm not sure). Does anybody know who owns and runs this website (I think it's one of us fellow Scratch-wiki-authores?). Could it be a good idea to archive it aditional on the Scratch-Wikis server in case the private persons who runs the archive discontionues it one day? There are so many historical references from the Scratch Wiki to the old forum that this could be usefull. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 07:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
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:If Scratchblocks are to be added to the VisualEditor here, how will they be inputted? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:02, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
:Although they are no longer active on Scratch (as said on their profile, although they replied to a comment on their profile 28 days ago), [[users:comp09|comp09]] likely owns it.  
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::@Jammum: We're working on it for editing blocks visually. Probably we will use text, but also the blocks will be seen instantly on VisualEditor when someone did an edit on the Scratchblocks text.
: (I found that out via the 404 page of the archived 1.x Scratch Forums, which links to a website that I eventually found out had a link to it on their Scratch profile). {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
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::@Dominic305: There are a lot changes, I suggest you to read all changelogs between 1.28 and 1.35.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 07:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
:: Also http://asun.co links directly to https://andrewsun.com, which [[users:comp09|comp09]] said on their profile is their site. Thus, it appears that comp09 is the owner of the forum archives. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 00:24, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::Will the extension Popups be enabled instead of the current thing in the common.js? Popups, (the extension) is much better. <scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 12:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
::: scratcharchive.asun.co has been stable since 3 years. To myself, the best option is not archive again for now.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 11:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::: Also, since Special:BlockList patch is broken, you could try using https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown <scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 14:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
:::: It is owned by [[User:blob8108|blob8108]] to my knowledge. Its URL used to be http://scratchforums.blob8108.net/forums/ before and a [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/22464/ post] by [[User:jvvg|jvvg]] stats that it is owned by him. I also think I saw him saying that it was owned by him on GitHub once. It might be a good idea to contact him.<scratchsig>R4356th</scratchsig> 07:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::: Thanks for the helping, but the developers is thinking that manually editing MediaWiki is better than use an extension for it. Anyway, thanks again! {{e|:)}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:24, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
:::::Blob8108 transferred ownership to Andrew Sun (comp09) when the domain changed from scratchforums.blob8108.net to scratcharchive.asun.co.
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:::::: I am not sure where Ahmetlii got the idea above-- nobody has even ''suggested'' that, in addition to it being a bad idea for a number of technical reasons that I am sure ISW understands. There have not been any suggestions for a way of implementing Special:BlockList privacy, but I will see about some solutions. <br/>[[File:Naleksuh.jpg|20px]] [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User_talk:Naleksuh#top|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/Naleksuh|contribs]]) 18:19, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
:::::To answer the original topic, since we have that power now it would probably be a good idea, but then again it would be a major link change operation (both when it comes to search results and links from Wiki or Scratch). I trust Andrew to say something if he doesn't think he can continue hosting the forum archives - if he does say anything, we can volunteer ourselves.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:42, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}
 
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For VisualEditor, couldn't you do something similar to the way it's done in scratch forums?<br/>
== Problems with Categorizing a Page ==
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<small><small><s>I wish I could help but I don't know a single thing about PHP</s></small></small> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 
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:I don't think so. BBS systems and wikis are two different things. <small>btw, I'm not also good at PHP (my specialty is Python on backend)</small>{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:42, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
I'm trying to get [[Language Tutorials/Java/The "Hello World" Program|this page]] categorized... But I have a problem. It doesn't seem to be categorized. What should I actually do? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 12:41, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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::They are, but I wasn't saying that you use the systems. I was just saying to use the concepts of how the scratchblocks are entered into the visual space.
:<code>CTRL+F5</code> Clean your cache.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 12:43, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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::<small><small>SAME, but I actually don't know a single thing of PHP</small></small> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:03, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
::Didn't work. {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 12:47, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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::: Actually, it could look for typeof="mw:Extension/scratchblocks"<scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 19:48, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
:::Just wait or close tab and look it another time. It'll update.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 13:04, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::<s>What do you mean by the tags are found? We use <code><nowiki><scratchblocks></nowiki></code> tags to make scratchblocks on the wiki...</s>
::::it takes time to categorize. i believe the categorizer cron task runs 1-2 times a week{{User:KrIsMa/Sig2}}  20:35, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::<s>In the visualeditor, we could just make a button, that will make something similar to the templates popup in the visualeditor. Then edit and it makes the block!</s>
:::::Categorization is very slow for some reason so the cron job refreshes ''all'' link-related lists (including categories, [[Special:WhatLinksHere]], and redirect lists) every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Just wait a few days.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:39, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::Edit conflict lol, but I wouldn't recommend deleting your entire post and replacing it with something else. It doesn't tell others what your previous thoughts were, (they could support you, or not) And is that <code>typof=</code> supposed to link anywhere? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 20:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
 
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:::::In the visualeditor, elements with scratchblock have <code>typeof="mw:Extension/scratchblocks"</code> in their html. But, there is no text (shown) that says <nowiki><scratchblocks></nowiki><scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 01:05, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
== How do you upload an image? ==
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::::::That's because <nowiki><scratchblocks></nowiki> get's replaced with <code><nowiki><pre class="block"></nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki><code class="block"></nowiki></code> to make scratch blocks...
 
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::::::I'm sorry but I don't understand your point. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:36, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
How do you upload an image from your computer to a Wiki article? I check S:CHEAT and it didn't have anything that helped me. Garnetluvcookie 19:49, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|::::::}}
:[[Special:Upload]]
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I looked at the MediaWiki website and it said that the EditAccount extension is archived, which might be why it does not work on the latest MediaWiki version. Is it going to be forked or replaced?
:{{note|For the signature, just use pen button or "Sign your username:" section.}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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{{User:Jammum/Signature}} 10:10, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
::Or you can add 4 tildes, like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 20:48, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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:We're working on it. The only thing is we will not use EditUser (because it's so restrictive). Please check the GitHub repos of the International Scratch Wiki for public changelogs of the Scratch Wiki systems.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 11:17, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
 
 
== Elections ==
 
 
 
Scratch Wiki has a lot of EW, I know, also election decision can create by only EWs and sysops with majority but I think the Scratch Wiki may need more EWs in a near future. What do you think about this?{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 10:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:We have plenty of EWs, and I don't see any need for more in the near future. There's probably not going to be another election for a long time.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:35, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== New Featured Images suggestions ==
 
{{done}}
 
 
 
Hello! The [[S:FI|Featured Images]] were just updated, so does anyone have any ideas for new ones for next month?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:09, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:[[File:What_the_Community_is_Loving.png|300px]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 10:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::A few suggestions: [[:File:Cat Blocks.png|here]], [[:File:Browser_not_supported.png|here]], [[:File:3.0_Pen_Blocks.png|and here]].<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 19:13, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::{{done|I updated it}} with Ahmetlii's suggestion and Groko13's first two suggestions. Does it look okay? Does anything need to be changed?
 
:::<small>I wasn't sure whether we were still fully following the Wiki Wednesday/Featured Images at the same time convention (it came about a while ago), so thank you Groko13 for your post [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions|here]] that mentioned the convention. {{e|:P}}</small><br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:56, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Looks good to me! {{e|:)}}<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 04:10, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== April Foooooools...? ==
 
 
 
8bitjake Hey guys. It's @8bitjake here. I've seen some April Fools articles, and I want to make one... but how?<scratchsig>8bitjake</scratchsig> 20:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:Just create an article named as Scratch Wiki:April Fools/(the name of article), then add <code><nowiki>{{AF}}</nowiki></code> template to the article you created. Write your fake article. Finally, add <code><nowiki>{{April Fools}}</nowiki></code> to top of the real article.{{note|You don't use the your name again, use the signature instead and place it to end of your post.}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 21:03, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== How do I use templates? ==
 
 
 
<scratchsig>8bitjake</scratchsig> 21:25, 8 June 2020 (UTC)8bitjakeI recently got my April Fools template question answered, but how do I even use a template in the first place?
 
:8bitjake, welcome to the Scratch Wiki! You can transclude a template by placing two sets of curly brackets (<code><nowiki>{{ }}</nowiki></code>) around the template name. For example, <code><nowiki>{{doing}}</nowiki></code> would translude {{t|doing}}, to make {{doing}}. You can do this with other namespaces too; for example, <code><nowiki>{{User:8bitjake}}</nowiki></code> would transclude your userpage.
 
 
 
:Also, in the future, please place your signature after your message rather than before it. Thanks!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 23:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Merge Request ==
 
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I think we should merge the [[Variable Monitor]] article with the [[Stage Monitor]] article. They're about the same exact subject. There's been a merge template on it for a while, but no one has said anything. Thoughts? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 18:47, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
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== am i allowed to edit user messages if... ==
:I have no idea, Scratch Wiki has a lot of things to do such as [[Scratch Wiki talk: Community Portal/Admin_Requests#Edit_of_a_protected_page]], [[Special:Diff/249820]] or [[Special:Diff/249838]]. Just wait, probably it will solve.{{note|You can try to merge it if you can do.}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:57, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::Okay, I'll merge it when I get around to it (or someone else can)<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 20:49, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::I vote for a merge. We should leave a redirect though. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 21:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Merged!<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 15:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== How to add an image on my user space? ==
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Am I allowed to edit user messages if the user calls me something I don't like to be called (only to fix what they call me)? Lots of people call me "Garnetluvcookie", which I don't like because I'm very sensitive about how the G in my name is capitalized. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 18:40, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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:: That is not an allowed usage of editing others' messages. Especially not when Garnetluvcookie ''is'' infact your username, although you may prefer something else and are allowed to make others aware of that. <br/>[[File:Naleksuh.jpg|20px]] [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User_talk:Naleksuh#top|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/Naleksuh|contribs]]) 19:08, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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::: oml is this just to trigger me <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 19:36, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::: also my scratch username ''is'' @garnetluvcookie, MediaWiki just auto capitalized the G. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 19:38, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::: The message was not intended to "trigger" anything-- you asked a question and I answered it. While I am aware that MediaWiki does strictly capitalize username, and you are allowed to edit your signature or use displaytitles on your user (talk) page as appropriate, it would not be appropriate to chastise others for referring to what is your actual name. It also does not constitute editing another users' message as this can sometimes misrepresent what they are saying. <br/>[[File:Naleksuh.jpg|20px]] [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User_talk:Naleksuh#top|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/Naleksuh|contribs]]) 19:57, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Ah yes, because changing the capitalization of a username changes the meaning of the message. To '''g'''arnetluvcookie, ask Ken about it on his talk page. He is also sensitive about what people call him. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 00:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}Just don't ask him right now, of course. He's busy with his studies. (So am I but I can't resist replying to talk messages...){{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 00:22, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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: "Ah yes, because changing the capitalization of a username changes the meaning of the message." This sarcastic comment is not helpful here. The point is that messages are edited when they are in violation of policies or when they are causing some other problem (for example, messages with erroneous formatting such as unclosed tags, messages adding a page to a category, or something like that. In addition, I ''have'' had others edit my messages in a way that changes their meaning before that has needed to be undone. The actors were doing so in good faith, but it was still problematic.
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: "Ken about it on his talk page. He is also sensitive about what people call him." So, he has a bias, meaning probably ''not'' the best ask. Instead, see the already existing well-established policy which says it should not be edited. In general, talk page messages are treated like userspace. <br/>[[File:Naleksuh.jpg|20px]] [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User_talk:Naleksuh#top|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/Naleksuh|contribs]]) 00:44, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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::garnetluvcookie, I realize that you may not like the name, but you shouldn't change another person's edit. Instead, you should reply kindly asking them to stop calling you that and to call you the names you prefer.
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::You also shouldn't be "triggered" against a capitilization. MediaWiki, and autocorrect, will capitilize yours, and others, names.
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::If they continue calling you that name (or purposely capitilize it), that's a completely different story. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:11, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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::: The user repeatedly keeps calling me Garnetluvcookie , and I've reported the revisions and no action has beeen taken. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 16:16, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::Have you asked the user to stop?
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::::I also don't think reporting the revision for this matter is appropriate. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:33, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::::I have asked the person to stop at least 4 times. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 17:44, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Ok... but instead of reporting their revision, ask an admin or someone. But please [[Scratch_Wiki:Assume Good Faith|assume good faith]] in the future. It may be an accident. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:58, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}} I am assuming good faith. It's most likely an accident, but it's just something I'm sensitive about and annoys me... a lot. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 18:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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:Great! Just a suggestion: maybe include the names you don't want to be called on your userpage.
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:May I ask why the capital 'G' annoys you? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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:: Sure. There are many reasons why, but the important one is that I never put capital letters in my usernames because it messes up literally my whole profile page for some reason and makes me look like someone who Talks Like This. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 18:23, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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::: i just realized i single-handedly blew up the CP 😲 <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 18:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::That's a weird reason in my perspective, but you do you....
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::::Only 4 KB left to go before archiving {{e|;)}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:35, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::: Do I what? <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 18:40, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Clarification: You must not use Report extension unless you need to contact admins urgently and privately, like sharing email or vandalism. If you "abused" Report extension, you may be blocked. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 19:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}} I don't want to start a flame, but I believe that was a fair report because it may seem small to you, but it affects me mentally and emotionally. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 19:34, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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:Maybe make a less strict report extension? In this case, the 'new' report button could've been used to report a user that hasn't stopped calling garnetluvcookie with a 'G'...
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:I'm not sure, it's just a thought.... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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::So there's been a lot of discussion on both sides of this matter - I thought it would be appropriate to share my two cents on the matter. To be clear, I do not wish for my reply to be hostile, demeaning, or rude, simply a summary on my thoughts.
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::I do not believe that it is a "weird perspective" to have a [https://regex101.com/r/QSyeGl/3 preferred way of being referred to as]. Sometimes the little things can really tick people off, and I understand that. I also understand that MediaWiki autocapitalizes names, such as jvvg/Jvvg, however we should all take note of people's preferred names and call them by that rather than their MediaWiki name.
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::In instances where a user has been referred to incorrectly, whether intentionally or inadvertently (as has been stated before, [[S:GF|Assume Good Faith]] {{E|:)}}), the proper course of action should be to ask the user nicely not to refer to you as that and give a correct preferred name, which I can see has been done here multiple times. I understand it may upset/annoy the user who has been incorrectly referred to, however editing a message should not happen, which I can also see has not taken place. Good job!
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::Reporting should also not usually be used in these circumstances - instead, CC an admin or EW into the conversation and they will (hopefully) ask the user nicely to use the correct name.
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::@garnetluvcookie I understand that how you are referred to affects you deeply. Please don't think you are being told off here. In fact, by asking the user nicely to not call you by a certain name, you've done the right thng. Well done. {{E|:)}}
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::I think we all need to calm down and hold off sarcastic, snidy, or mean comments. We're a community built on being welcoming and enjoyable, let's keep it that way. :){{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 20:03, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::Small question: what do you mean by CC? <s>Isn't that a copyright</s><br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 20:09, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::@12944qwerty CC, as in, carbon copy, I assume.
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::::If you didn't know, CC is for sending a copy to another user for their information. Primary recipients are addressed as "TO" and others as "CC". (there's also BCC, but I don't want to go into more detail) {{e|:P}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 20:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Oh, that makes sense lol. thanks <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 21:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
  
i want to put my scratch profile picture on my userpage but the tutoriol seems too complicated and i cant understand it! is there a simpler way to do it? <scratchsig>Hani2018</scratchsig> 13:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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== archive the CP ==
:Go to [[Special:Upload]], upload the file, write description and file's name. Paste <code><nowiki>[[Category:Users' Images]]</nowiki></code> to end of the description.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 13:45, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Thanks! <scratchsig>Hani2018</scratchsig> 14:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::You're welcome. Please, use indents when replying.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:51, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== [[Special:Diff/250000|250000{{th}}]] edit on the Wiki! ==
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I'm amazed that i basically made it blow up :P (i need to reset my sig so unsigned) {{unsigned|garnetluvcookie}}
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:{{doing|Archiving...}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:01, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
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::{{done|[[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 108|Archived]]}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:26, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
  
Congratulations to all of the Wiki users!<big>{{e|tenmil}}</big>{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 17:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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== Increase the file size thingy (read this to get it) ==
:{{e|tenmil}}{{e|tenmil}}{{e|tenmil}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:44, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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{{not done}}<br />
::Neat! How do you see how many edits there are? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 17:49, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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<small>i can't explain anything so here goes...</small>
:::Just look at edit number when you click the edit. It will be shown on URL's "&oldid=" section.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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I've seen many people getting the "compress every file you upload if it's not under 2 KB" message. Why? These users uploaded files that are like 6 KB. 6 KB!!! That's incredibly small, at least for file sizes. I believe that the minimum file size for compression should be raised to 20 KB because that's a size that's small, but large enough that it's too big. Thoughts? <br /><span style="color:red"><span style="background:#2f3136;height:22px;display:inline-block;padding:0px">[[File:Glc.jpg|18px|link=users:garnetluvcookie]] [[User:garnetluvcookie|<b><span style="color:#ff0000;font-family:Arial;font-family:Arial">''♥ garnetluvcookie ♥''</span></b>]] [[User talk:Garnetluvcookie|<b><span style=color:#ff0000;font-family:Arial;font-family:Arial">| ''♥ talk ♥''</span></b>]] <span style="color:#ff0000;font-family:Arial">'''|'''</span> [[Special:Contributions/Garnetluvcookie|<b><span style="color:#ff0000;font-family:Arial">''♥ contribs ♥''</span></b>]]''</span></span> 00:56, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
::::congrats! :D <scratchsig>Hani2018</scratchsig> 18:59, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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:I think the title of this topic should actually be "'''Increase''' the file size thingy (read this to get it)" (or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?) {{e|:)}}
  
== How do I move this page? ==
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:Also, could you please clarify which message you're talking about?
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:* [[Special:Upload]] states "Is the image's filesize over '''300KB'''? If it is, please compress it. [https://tinypng.com TinyPNG] is recommended for PNGs and JPEGs (contrary to the name, it does support JPEG)."
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:* The [[MediaWiki:Abusefilter-warning-huge-file|abuse filter warning]] that appears when you upload a file that's too large also uses the 300KB number, stating "If your file is over 300KB, please compress it. [https://tinypng.com/ TinyPNG] is recommended for PNGs and JPGs."
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:* The [[User:TemplatesFTW/Config/CompressMsg|message]] that {{user|TemplatesFTW|name}} posts on users' talk pages after it compresses their files does not state any number, but rather states that "... the image size was kinda big ...".
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:None of the above messages mention that you should "compress every file you upload if it's not under 2 KB," so could you please clarify which message you are talking about? If I'm missing something obvious, please point it out. Thank you! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:36, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
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:: Ahh, yes I meant increase, it's just pretty late where I am and I'm a bit sleepy. Also, the compress if it's over 2 KB thing was a joke to show how low the compressing thing is :P.  I'll fix the post <s>before I fall asleep in my chair</s>. <br /><span style="color:red"><span style="background:#2f3136;height:22px;display:inline-block;padding:0px">[[File:Glc.jpg|18px|link=users:garnetluvcookie]] [[User:garnetluvcookie|<b><span style="color:#ff0000;font-family:Arial;font-family:Arial">''♥ garnetluvcookie ♥''</span></b>]] [[User talk:Garnetluvcookie|<b><span style=color:#ff0000;font-family:Arial;font-family:Arial">| ''♥ talk ♥''</span></b>]] <span style="color:#ff0000;font-family:Arial">'''|'''</span> [[Special:Contributions/Garnetluvcookie|<b><span style="color:#ff0000;font-family:Arial">''♥ contribs ♥''</span></b>]]''</span></span> 02:08, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
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::: Yeah people take compression way too seriously. ''Maybe'' at 30mb losslessly you should ''consider'' compressing, but there's no reason to compress something already only 20 kb (which is incredibly small in 2020, a lot of JavaScript files are bigger). Some images have been compressed so aggressively that the text becomes difficult to read and have needed to be reverted. The file dimensions were recently increased to 1080p a couple weeks ago, but there hasn't been much comment on file size. I personally think that an increase on file size limit would be very helpful as compression has been taken way too seriously (in most cases it has almost no benefit, although there are always exceptions). In addition, admins for some reason can upload files up to 218 times larger than non-admins, which again I think is another unnecessary line. <br/>[[File:Naleksuh.jpg|20px]] [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User_talk:Naleksuh#top|talk]] | [[Special:Contribs/Naleksuh|contribs]]) 02:19, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::: Exactly. All it does is decreases file size by like 4 KB. Personally I think that compression is taken wayy too seriously here. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 02:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
  
Apparently, [[Viewer_Language_(block)|this block]] was renamed to just Language (see talk page), so I tried moving the article to [[Language (block)]], but it wouldn't let me (I think because there is already a redirect page there). How am I supposed to move the page? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 22:13, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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== Tone down the rejected messages on [[S:BR]] archives ==
:I think it should let you overwrite most redirect pages, but since that page had more edits in its history than just making it a redirect, it didn't let you. I deleted the redirect and its associated talk page, then moved the page, so I'll mark this as {{done}}.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 23:19, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== How to create a sidebar? ==
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{{Note|None of this was made to offend the people who reject bot requests. Please take no offense.}}
  
On user bigpuppy’s  profile I clicked edit and copied the code of the sidebar and pasted it to my user page but i don’t even know how to make a side bar. Here are the things that I wanted to change it:
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Some of the rejected summaries at [[S:BR]] rejected requests are very unwelcoming. For example, my rejected message had "User has no programming experience" which comes off extremely rude, and when I do have programming experience (if you count Scratch as a programming language... *awkward smile*). The only reason that I don't is because I'm incredibly young, not even in middle school. If I was 5 years older, I would've created a bot already. (Please don't argue this point against me, I don't want the summary bored into my head)<br />
  
*colour of sidebar:pink
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Also, a user may not have much experience in the language, but that doesn't mean that they are incapable of creating a bot. I know many people online (haha don't ask about IRL) that are new to the language that they chose, but they've created amazing stuff. It's enforcing the stereotype of "young children are dumb and can't do complex stuff". No matter how minor, it's still showing bad behavior as a role-model.<br />
*having my scratch profile picture on it
 
*having a link to my user page,talk page contributions page, and community portal.  
 
  
Is there a easier code that can just be edited to make a custom sidebar?<scratchsig>Hani2018</scratchsig> 13:57, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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This doesn't mean that the admins need to rewrite every single rejected summary, they just need to be more considerate about how others will feel. <small>extreme nostalgia and/or cringe side affects may occur in 3... 2... 1...</small> It's like that concept that everyone was taught in early grade school, fill others buckets, don't dump them. <br />
  
:I recommend you to open a page named as User:Hani2018/Sidebar and then, add it to your pages with this code: <code><nowiki>{{User:Hani2018/Sidebar}}</nowiki></code>. You can change the colors and boxes by CSS <nowiki><div></nowiki> tags, so check [[Help:CSS]] for more information.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:03, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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<small>now my fingers hurt :P</small> <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 21:57, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
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:<small>As mysteriously as he arrived, NYCDOT was gone again.</small> Hi. I checked out your BR, and it appears that Ken wrote "Proposer has no programming experience and VoxBot is the only approved typography bot." He said it like it is, you have no experience. What is he supposed to say? We aren't going to give out gold stars to people who propose that they create their own bots without any idea how to do so. Try out a some programming languages ''before'' proposing a a new Wiki Bot, and I'm sure the next time you have a BR the admins will be more than happy to review your request. As for the bot idea itself, VoxBot is an approved bot that we know works well and does its job. If you have problems with it, I'm sure KrIsMa will listen to your suggestions. {{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 18:20, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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:: I do have programming experience, I just only knew Scratch at the time I suggested it. Also, even though I apparently am dumb, I do know a good bit of Python. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 18:25, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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:: Two things. One, no one ever said you were dumb. Not knowing how to do a certain thing doesn't make you dumb. Two, at the time of the bot request, you pretty much had no experience. While you may have some now, that doesn't change the past. If you think of a new, useful bot, you can propose one again. {{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 18:38, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::<small>Welcome back NYCDOT, I came back recently too {{e|:P}}, also, remember about your indents :P</small>
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::::Scratch is not counted as programming knowledge. Although you could use scratch knowledge to code with other languages, knowing scratch only isn't enough. Can you make a bot with scratch coding? No, you cannot. Ken writing that you have no programming experience is completely fine. You agreed you have no programming experience outside of Scratch.
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::::Although it may be rude for you, it is in no way meant to be rude. Ken wrote all details in his rejected message so that everyone understands why this bot got rejected and so that users don't make a bot for the same reason. There's always a reason for writing things the way it's written. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:42, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
  
== How to make a April Fools userpage? ==
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== Try it yourself! (button) ==
  
(Sorry if my spelling is bad, i am typing on an iPad)
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My idea is that there will be some visual scratchblocks, and a button next to it. The user can click on the button, and it will bring them to scratch and remix a project with the code in it. They can then mess around with it.
It's pretty self-explanatory, but if you really need to....
 
How do I make a April Fools version of my userpage?
 
14:37, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 
{{unsigned|Garnetluvcookie}}
 
:Create a page named as Scratch Wiki:April Fools/(your userpage's name) ,put your content with <nowiki>{{AF}}</nowiki>. Add <nowiki>{{April Fools}}</nowiki> to your original userpage.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:51, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Bad word filter ==
 
 
 
Someone must change the abuse filter.[[Special:Diff/250356|There's inappropriate content as fourth.]] {{Plain link|1=https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=User:ScratchDude101&action=history|2=And, lots of the edits are still showing by history.}} Please rickroll them.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 17:04, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:That word isn't always inappropriate and is only wrong if used in a certain way. Also, what's the problem with lots of edits still being shown by history? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 18:06, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::1. You are right about that word in first edit, but other words?
 
::2. They are still accessible.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::I'm going to leave it up to the admins to decide whether or not the edits should be hidden. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 19:33, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I don't see any inappropriate words in the edit you linked. As to the history, what's wrong with them being accessible? We don't hide revisions just because there are a lot of them.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:52, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== scratchblocks is updated! ==
 
 
 
mw-ScratchBlocks4 is updated to include new version of scratchblocks. This contains support for cat blocks(<code>::cat</code>):
 
<scratchblocks>
 
when @greenFlag clicked::cat
 
</scratchblocks>
 
 
 
This version also adds "when stage clicked" block:
 
<scratchblocks>
 
when stage clicked
 
</scratchblocks>
 
 
 
and some bugfixes. Note that plugins used in the Discussion Forum is not updated. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:30, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:Yes, This looks cute!, I wish it could have it forums as well, but it doesn't updated in the forums, I remembered this was from April Fools 2020, isn't it? <scratchsig>Agarraga</scratchsig> 09:51, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::Yes, it was from April Fools 2020. About the forums not being updated, I actually have authored a [[topic:349380|forum post about that]]. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 01:36, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::{{cool}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:38, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== About linking other Wikis... ==
 
 
 
So I am a editor on the Ofiicial Minecraft Wiki, and I was wondering if I could link my userpage on there. Please answer!
 
<scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie 14:55, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:You may link your userpage on there if their policies permit you to do so. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 02:11, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::As long as they allow it, you can link to your userpage here from your userpage there. However, don't go around putting links to your userpage in actual articles on the MC Wiki.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:34, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Memories for Wiki Wednesday 50 ==
 
Hi everyone - We have a very special Wiki Wednesday coming up. It will be our fiftieth edition of the newsletter. As a reminder [[Wiki Wednesday]] is our monthly newsletter posted on the Scratch website. We want to make this edition extra special! Please submit below some pieces that we could format into the post: short paragraphs about "your favorite Wiki edit" or longer OP-eds encouraging members of the Scratch community to join us as Wikians. I am happy to review and incorparate any idea you have - I really want this edition to reflect our community as a whole. I look forward to reading you responses. I would appreciate if your submission was finished and posted here by '''June 21st''' so that I have time to review and format the final post. Thanks again! <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 02:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:I'm so excited! Anyway, my paragraph is:
 
:My favourite Wiki edit was probably the time I edited a bunch of stubs with actually good content in it, not just rushed, 5 minute content. I had a lot of fun doing that, and I want to do it again!<scratchsig>garnetluvcookie</scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie 00:24, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::My favourite edit is "hmmst'd've's (the pulp free orange juice with extra pulp that crash-landed into my basement and said banana)". It was funny. Also, it's a good example for that Scratch and Scratch Wiki are same, we're not writing "only" boring contexts. Also, we're (as Scratchers in Scratch Wiki) writing for Scratchers. There has funny and helpful things. We're trying to helpful for everyone because this wiki is written by Scratchers for Scratchers. That's the main task.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:31, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::I love editing for the Wiki because I get to share my knowledge about Scratch and help other people find information that they need. Also, I've learned a lot of new things about Scratch while working on and reading the Wiki articles. Being a Wikian is a great way to give back to the Scratch community, and it's a lot of fun working with people from around the world, whether it's working on a large project or page, or just making some smaller changes to an article. The Scratch Wiki community is really nice and helpful as well.<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 16:00, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Hopefully it's not too late; here's my paragraph:
 
::::I don't think I have a favorite edit, because it's all of the edits by every Wikian all coming together that make the Scratch Wiki what it is. If you're looking for a way to help out in the Scratch community, the wiki is a great place for you! You'll get better at collaborating, researching, and writing. Editing the wiki is fun, too! We have a wonderful community that's very welcoming and would be delighted to answer any questions you have. If you're interested in joining, just follow the instructions here: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/S:CONTRIB We're excited to meet you and see your contributions!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:38, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Honestly I don't have single edits that I like - I like the grind of looking through recent changes, and making follow-up edits if necessary. It was also nice to become EW to sort of formalize that process :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:59, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::This topic is {{done}} as [[topic:416946|Wiki Wednesday is out]]. {{e|:)}} Thanks {{user|Makethebrainhappy|name}}!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Necroposting on [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done]] ==
 
 
 
Some of the topics in Not Done have been solved or unusable/outdated. Maybe we can archive as "closed". Any ideas? <span style="color:grey">(edited in 23.06.2020 (UTC))</span>{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 21:38, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:Which topics specifically do you think the discussion is completed on? Maybe ask the original authors of the posts. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 02:49, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Thankful Thursday! (On a Wednesday!) June 24{{th}}, 2020 ==
 
Welcome to this month's Thankful Thursday! This month is a special one because it is the 50{{th}} edition [[Wiki Wednesday]]! For those of you who don't know Wiki Wednesday is a monthly Scratch News series where the Scratch Team features an article suggested by the community on the last Wednesday of the month. To celebrate we are releasing Thankful Thursday a day early to be in conjunction with Wiki Wednesday. So, an extra special thanks to both MakeTheBrainHappy and LiFaytheGoblin who made Wiki Wednesday possible!
 
<br /><br />
 
 
 
Without further ado:
 
<br />
 
{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 029}}
 
 
 
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
 
 
 
 
 
The next TT is, July 30{{th}}, see you then!<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 04:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 04:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Removing biased opinions on Wiki pages. ==
 
 
 
There are many pages with a note like:
 
 
 
{{note | This can be hard for New Scratchers to make, as of its complexity.}}<br />
 
 
 
The Scratch Wiki is supposed to be a neutral source of information about the Scratch website, right?  I suggest that we remove all those notices from the pages. New Scratchers aren't dumb. They are just users who made an account. No-one needs to say "This is the green flag. Sound it out with me G. R-" NO. I know a user who is amazing at coding in text-based languages, yet other users were saying "ThE ScRaTcH WiKi sAyS tHaT nEw ScRaTcHeRs CaN't cOdE sHoW I sHoW yOu HoW!1!1!". This is making the Wikians look like fools for putting this stuff on here, I quote an earlier part of my post "The Scratch Wiki is supposed to be a <big>neutral source</big> of information. This is the end of this before it gets a little too ranty.
 
<scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie 01:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:You bring up a very good point! I agree that all of these notices should be removed. The reader can judge how hard a script will be to understand themselves, based on their experience and skill level. {{e|:)}} Everyone is different.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:59, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::I also agree. The wiki should not have such notices. Are there any examples of such pages?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 19:13, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Jakel181, I saw them remove one in [[Special:Diff/250987|this edit]]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I agree, too. A lot of tutorials has similar notes like that.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:33, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::'''+1''', no page should have such notices. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:06, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Tell users on Wiki Wednesday topics not to spam in replies ==
 
 
 
When Wiki Wednesdays are mentioned on the Scratch News on the homepage, some users' replies contain spam such as blockspam.
 
 
 
I suggest that at the end of each Wiki Wednesday initial post, it should say that when replying, users should not spam. It could also give the definition of what is considered spam (such as offtopic blocks, gibberish, emoji testing, etc.), so users will less likely be confused about what spam is (other than the food product of the same name), that spam could be reported, and that block testing and project advertisements go in the Forum blocks testing topic and the Show and Tell forum respectively. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 09:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:It's a good idea - and I agree with you, but I think that's not a exact solution manner. As an example, lots of announcements and sticky topics (Wiki Forum Community Portal) are getting blockspam; some people, like me, TenType, SausageMcSausage or ST, warn them, but I see a new spam everyday when I check Wiki Forum Community Portal. Also, nobody don't write aggressive posts for warn users; for example, don't write "DON'T MAKE BLOCKSPAM OR SOMEBODY MAY WARN YOU(ME OR ANYBODY ELSE)". I think WW could include a link [[topic:387618|to here.]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 11:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Wiki doesn't render correctly in the Vector Skin ==
 
 
 
Is this happening for anyone else? <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 20:19, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:Could you mention some specific problems? There are inevitably going to be problems with, for example, people's userpages (e.g. my sidebar makes my userpage look bad in the vector skin), but what problems are you seeing? {{e|:)}} More people use ScratchWikiSkin, though, so at the end of the day more attention is going to be focused on that. Thanks!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::Random articles looked fine to me while using the vector skin, though I didn't look closely.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Whole pages have cut-off text on my Mac. <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 22:43, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Which browser are you using? Also, could you post a screenshot?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent}}I use Chrome, and I'll get up a screenshot soon. <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 13:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Scratch MIDI notes ==
 
{{done|Done, though articles mentioning MIDI must be updated}}
 
 
 
Everywhere I look says that [[MIDI]] has 128 notes, from 0 to 127. However, Scratch can play up to note 130 with the [[Play Note () for () Beats]] block, so I'm pretty confused. Does Scratch use MIDI? What is it doing? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 21:31, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:The Community Portal is a place to add questions or suggestions about the Wiki, not Scratch. You may want to ask this in the [[scratch:discuss/31|Advanced Topics]] forum. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 01:37, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::VFDan, I interpreted the question as something they were asking so that they could ''improve'' the wiki, though I might be wrong. However, the talk page of that article may be a better place to ask.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:44, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:Scratch used MIDI until Scratch 2.0, and there are indeed 128 notes from 0 to 127. The notes would be synthesised by software on one's computer, and there are 128 General MIDI instruments. (It's also possible to use an electronic synthesiser, but I don't think that was ever an end-user feature.)
 
 
 
:Since Scratch 2 Scratch no longer uses MIDI, but offers 21 sampled instruments. (I think I read somewhere that the Scratch Team was dissatisfied with the MIDI synthesis offered by Flash, or something along those lines, but I don't remember the details so please don't take that as fact.) In Scratch 2 there are still only 128 notes, but Scratch 3 offers 131. Though as mentioned this discussion doesn't quite belong here.<scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 01:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::Mostly I was asking so that I could update [[Template:MIDI Notes|this template]], but it might apply to other articles, especially if Scratch is no longer using MIDI. Should I move the discussion over there somehow? Although you answered it pretty well. Do you have any sources saying that Scratch doesn't use MIDI anymore? It would be really helpful.<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 01:56, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::[[topic:123358|Here's]] a topic, and there is the source code for [https://github.com/LLK/scratch-flash/blob/master/src/primitives/SoundPrims.as Scratch 2] and [https://github.com/LLK/scratch-vm/blob/develop/src/extensions/scratch3_music/index.js Scratch 3].<scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 03:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Thanks a ton! {{e|:)}} <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 14:09, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Blocked Accounts ==
 
 
 
My account got blocked for reasons that I would not like to discuss here, is it still safe for me to be on the Wiki? <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 13:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:From [[Ban]]:
 
 
 
:"Although the Scratch Wiki is an official Scratch project, bans on the Scratch Website do not apply on the Wiki. However, if a user is banned on the Scratch Website and continues their behavior on the Wiki, then they will be banned until unbanned from the main site." So, I think you're probably okay {{e|:)}}.<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 14:01, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Thank you! I was wondering if I had to wait and wait and wait... <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 14:05, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Where's the CSS cheatsheet? ==
 
 
 
Title. <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 15:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:Are you talking about [[Scratch Wiki:Cheatsheet]], or another cheatsheet? I'd assume another cheatsheet, because that's a wikitext cheatsheet (not a CSS cheatsheet), but it's the most common "cheatsheet" people think of on this wiki.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:25, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::: There's [[Help:CSS]]. Is there anything specific that you need help with? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 16:53, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Discussion Invitation System ==
 
{{not done}}
 
 
 
Hi folks! On the topic of reviving [[S:CPND]], I have another suggestion. My previous suggestion (collapsing discussions) got implemented, but it is a very minor change. As someone who usually updates the featured images, I was thinking about a discussion that I personally would like people to participate in, [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]]. That specific discussion has been going on since August 2018 and it hasn't yet come to a conclusion.
 
 
 
I think I've come up with something that may help solve the Not Done problem. Well, I didn't exactly come up with it, because I got the idea from Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:WP:Feedback request service|Feedback request service]]. As I understand it, with Wikipedia's Feedback request service, when a discussion needs an outside editor to provide comment, a bot comments on the talk page of someone who has added their name to the list. I'd like to make it clear: '''my suggestion would not require a bot.''' Wikipedia needs stuff like that because it's giant.
 
 
 
Basically, when a discussion is going stale or needs a few more editors to provide feedback, a proactive editor can comment the Discussion Invitation template (currently at [[User:Bigpuppy/Discussion Invitation System/Template]]) on a few user talk pages of people who have signed up to be invited to discussions.
 
 
 
Here are some examples of when this would be useful:
 
* For asking editors to participate in a [[S:CP]] or [[S:CPND]] discussion that has gone inactive or that has a deadline
 
* For asking editors their opinion on a discussion on the talk page of an article that only a few people are participating in
 
 
 
I think this will help with more than reviving [[S:CPND]], though {{-}} it will help on ''any'' discussion that isn't getting the attention it deserves.
 
 
 
I've decided to start this program up in my userspace, though if people like it maybe it can be moved to project space (the Scratch Wiki namespace). The list of people who have signed up is currently at [[User:Bigpuppy/Discussion Invitation System/List]] (as of writing, only me). If you'd like to sign up, please do!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:I think this is a great idea! <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 19:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::It could be a good idea, but I'm not sure that it's really matter. As you said before, Wikipedia is a big place and a lot of discussion creators in [[S:CPND]] is inactive/quitted Scratch. Also, I think a lot of the discussions are not necessary. For example, are you think "Secret Compliments" important today? Also, asqwde has been inactive since 8 months.
 
::I'm supporting main idea, also it can be helpful for usual stuffs, but also nobody cannot use it for old Not Done topics. Additionally, I suggest another idea; Scratch Wiki could have multiple portals. For example; Scratch Modifications portal, Extensions portal, etc. Maybe not for now, but it could be helpful when discussions are too much.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:03, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Well, I don't think that it matters that some people in [[S:CPND]] are inactive; that doesn't mean their discussions aren't relevant anymore. As for the discussions that you don't think are relevant anymore, like "Secret Compliments," you should discuss that in the appropriate section at [[S:CPND]] and make sure people agree with you. You could get people to add to the discussion on whether they are relevant anymore using the system I suggested {{e|;)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:08, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I just used the system on the talk pages of the two people (other than me) who signed up:
 
::::* [[User talk:Garnetluvcookie#Invitation to discussion]]
 
::::* [[User talk:Groko13#Invitation to discussion]]
 
::::Keep in mind that in the future, people would not message everyone on the list (because hopefully lots of people sign up!), but rather message the number of people that they need.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:26, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::I'm happy to see people using the system already! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::Also, I added {{t|open userpage}} to all of the Discussion Invitation System pages except the template, so feel free to improve any of them!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}Oh yes, I remember when I first suggested that. I was thinking about it recently actually - what a coincidence!
 
 
 
I would like to add my name to the list, however one quick thing: why do we link to our Scratch profiles and not our Wiki profiles, or perhaps our Wiki talk page? Surely linking to our userpage would make a lot more sense, unless there is a specific reasoning for not doing this that I am not understanding.
 
 
 
In any case, I think this is a fantastic idea. Glad to see it's working already! Thanks for taking this on, bigpuppy. :){{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 
:Where do people link to their Scratch profiles? On the list page, we are using the {{t|user}} template, which adds a link to the user's userpage and talk page. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 
::Wait, nevermind. I saw <code><nowiki>{{users}}</nowiki></code> in the code, and mistook it to be the new <code><nowiki>[[users:]]</nowiki></code> interwiki, which points to their Scratch profile. Whoops!{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 23:45, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== When are we planning to implement [[User:jvvg/sandbox|the new Flawed Article]]? ==
 
{{not done}}
 
 
 
Per title.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:13, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:Maybe you should ask jvvg. Has there been a discussion about it elsewhere? I'm not sure if the article is finished yet.<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 03:07, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== More Featured Images! ==
 
 
 
{{not done}}
 
  
The featured images were just updated, so does anyone have any new suggestions for next time? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:58, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
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You could probably use this in
:Here's two images: [[:File:Transparent_Stamps.png|1]] and [[:File:Gobo_Keychain.jpg|2]]. I don't know if these have been used in the past or not. Maybe we should start keeping a list. Is there any rule against reusing images? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 03:37, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 
::If images have the {{t|featured}} template on them, they have been used before. That said, there may have been some times where we forgot to add that template.
 
::As for whether there's a rule against re-using images, I'm not sure, though I'm guessing the {{t|featured}} template doesn't support such a case currently.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:06, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Okay, thanks! Before I thought that the template was only for WW articles. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 18:03, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== [[Special:Diff/149186|jvvg's "temporary" solution]] ==
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* [[:Category:Tutorials|Tutorials]]
{{not done|It will be solved asap, thanks to jvvg}}
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* [[:Category:Blocks|Scratch Block pages]]
[https://futuresight.org/wikiaccountrequest It is] still working. I'm not sure that I can request an account with the link (I'm not using another user).{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 15:11, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
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* [[Default Value]] (I thought of this idea on this page)
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<br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:27, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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:Can anyone help me understand why the category links aren't showing up? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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::Actually, we're also working about the embed projects (we have different opinions for make it, so I cannot say a specific info.). You can see everyone in here whose want to help for the Wiki! {{e|:)}}
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::For the second question, I've fixed it. {{e|:)}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::What? I'm confused. What do you mean by "everyone in here whose are want to help for the Wiki"? There's a lot of English mistakes.... can you please fix it so I can understand? Thanks!
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:::OH YEAH, I forgot about putting those for some links... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:20, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::I meant "please check public and private changelogs and also look at RC".{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:29, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::::For embedding a scratch project? Can you direct me to it? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:43, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::::{{done}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 12:15, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
  
== Should we delete never used bot accounts? ==
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== Something's wrong ==
  
For example: [[user:Tweaker]], [[user:ThisIsAnAccount]], [[user:Bot807]]. They had never used, or in a few edits with a human edit. So, I think to send a message to developers of the bots.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 12:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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{{done}}<br/>
: [[Special:RequestAccount]] says that Wiki accounts cannot be deleted. Also, some of those bot accounts' owners might be inactive on Scratch. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 15:10, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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Something’s up, my signature turns timestamps into code boxes, without the actual code tags appearing. Is this an error with my syntax or is it an actual bug? I’m not sure, so if someone could help me with this, that would be great. I’ve been trying to get it right for weeks. An example of the issue can be found below, or at [[User:78ch3/Sig|this page]]{{User:78ch3/Sig}} 00:36, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
::I'm talking about ban accounts or we should say "this bot is inactive". For example, look at here: [[wikipedia:Template:Retired]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 15:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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: It's because [[User:78ch3/Sig]] has some new lines it should not. There are two line breaks between <nowiki></span></nowiki> and <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki>. Those new lines should simply be removed (so that it is <nowiki></span><noinclude></nowiki> on one line), and then it should be fixed. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 00:47, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
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:: I got up this morning to fix it, but didn’t read this, so when I came here, it turns out I did exactly what you wanted me to do. {{User:78ch3/Sig}} 21:23, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
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::: {{done}} {{User:78ch3/Sig}} 21:31, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
  
== New Wikian ==
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== My Banner ==
So I noticed that I am a New Wikian. But... how do I become a wikian? Is it similar to main scratch, or totally different?
 
<scratchsig>-Exphire-</scratchsig> 21:02, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 
:[[Scratch Wiki:Wikians]] has the information you're looking for. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:06, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Are there rules on this Wiki about sockpuppeting similar to the ones on Wikipedia?  ==
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{{done}}
  
Just wondering. {{e|:)}}<scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 19:24, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
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Why did my banner get removed? I needed it for my forum signature and I can't use assets on my computer because it won't load and now my signature won't work. <scratchsig>FollowCherryBlossom</scratchsig> 16:16, 22 September 2020 (UTC)FollowCherryBlossom
:We have a very simple policy on alternate accounts: you can't have them unless you're a bot owner. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:25, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
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:Is this problem related to the forum? If it is, please bring up the topic there and they'll be able to help you more.
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:Also, remember for the future to write your texts before your signature. This means that you do <code><nowiki>REPLY/TEXT ~~~~</nowiki></code>. The four tildes are your signature. Thank you! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 16:21, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
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::It was not deleted, it was moved to a different title that was less generic.
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::Also, the Scratch Wiki should not be used as an image host for Scratch or anywhere else outside the wiki. I recommend you use another hosting site such as CubeUpload to upload your banner.
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:: <small>and i was caught in an edit conflict</small> {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 16:24, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::We're not an [[Image Host|image host]]. Use extensions that upload images to Scratch assets, or look to index.php for deleted images, or host in another website that Scratch allows. {{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 16:26, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::Ah, I just looked at Recent Changes. Your banner didn't get removed. It just got moved so that it had a more specific name.  Banner.png could mean that it's a banner for the Mainspace Scratch wiki pages instead.
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::::Your banner is now located here: [[:File:Banner FollowCherryBlossom.png]]
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::::<small>I had edit conflict too lol, with both jammum and ahmetlii at the same time AND MYSELF oh gods</small> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 16:28, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
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::::I've editted like three times and the same has happened and okay <scratchsig>FollowCherryBlossom</scratchsig> 16:31, 22 September 2020 (UTC)FollowCherryBlossom
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:::::The reason for doing so is because I don't use cubeupload or photobucket, I thought it had been deleted <scratchsig>FollowCherryBlossom</scratchsig> 16:32, 22 September 2020 (UTC)FollowCherryBlossom
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::::::You should though. This wiki isn't meant to host images, you should use an actual hosting server. Those are some of the best hosting servers. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:24, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
  
== Constructiveness in Community Portal - An Idea ==
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== out of curiosity... ==
  
Hello there!
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What's the 3 Revert Rule? I know we use BRD but it's referenced in many places, most notably [[Template:Nutshell|nutshell]].
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also, whatup with my message it's being weird or *looks above* close your tags!!! <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 18:55, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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:The 3 revert rule is when you stop to discuss the revert if it has been reverted three times. At least that's what I remember. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 19:11, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
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::I don't think we have 3RR(Three Revert Rule) here. We instead have BRD - Bold, Revert and Discuss.
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::Also, indenting your post with a space makes that box thing. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 13:52, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
  
In case you didn't know, I'm a Forum Helper (https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/3688309/) on Scratch, which means I generally help out on the the Scratch discussion forums. One day, I headed over to the Community Portal and it seemed like a sort of "discussion forums" within the Scratch Wiki, and I understand that the concept is different, but for me it personally seemed that way.
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== Another user’s talk page organization ==
  
Anyways, I mostly help around a lot on the Suggestions forum, which, yet again, redirects to the Community Portal since there are a lot of suggestions for the Scratch Wiki here. One difference is though, that the Scratch Team and some Scratchers (like me) enforce the rule of "constructiveness" while making posts, and I'm pretty sure most of you know what that means but I'll just clarify:
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Another user (not mentioning who) on this wiki requires users who post on their talk page that they use level three headings for discussion headings and put their messages in a section (some of which are not at the bottom of the page) on that page, whilst all other talk pages (including user ones) are supposed to use level two headings and require all messages (including bot ones) to go at the bottom of the page. Is the user's way of organising their talk page allowed? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:48, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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: I know this user and I don't believe so. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 12:08, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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::I don't think it's allowed, but if it is right now then I think it shouldn't be. It's confusing.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 12:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
  
* It means that one does not simply post "Support!", "Good idea!", or "+1!" and explain why they like the suggestion, that they provoke discussion, and look for possible issues instead of continuosly leaning on one side, like "I love this suggestion" or "I hate this suggestion"
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== How to curate a project? ==
  
* It means that one does not simply add one sentence to act as if their post is constructive. For example, "Support, because this might be useful for many Wikians!" seems constructive but it isn't really constructive, because they're not stating how it would be useful for many Wikians or why it would be.
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I want to know how to curate a project as I am interested to learn how to. I want to encourage my friend so thats one reason. If you got an idea how, please leave a reply so I can see. Thank you so much for everything and may god bless you abundantly! :) <scratchsig>Ani_coding_PRO</scratchsig> 11:31, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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:Here ya go: [[Curator (front_page)#Application_and_Selection]] <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:36, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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::@Ani_coding_PRO: Please ask in the [[Questions about Scratch]] forum (link to the forum is on the page) for Scratch-related questions that do not involve this wiki. The wiki is not a replacement for the Scratch Forums. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 14:50, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
  
Now, I've been looking around in the CP, and I've been seeing a couple of responses just saying "+1!" or merely "Support!" without provoking any further discussion and merely showing your satisfaction. So I thought, maybe, we could enforce the constructive rule on the CP as well. Especially because the ideas here much more mature and complex, and not like Scratch where it's just new blocks or random new features.
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== Wiki down? ==
  
I do agree that many people are already following this rule, but maybe just enforce it more? I do think it'll be incredibly helpful for the type of suggestions being given here.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 09:31, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
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I got an HTTP 500 error for about 30 seconds a minute ago. Other wikis (I checked de, test, and fr) were up. Was this a server problem? <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 16:24, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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: And again... <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 16:28, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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::This was a result of some preparatory work we're doing for the upgrade. Unfortunately there wasn't any way to do it without any disruption. However, it should be done now. You may experience some slowdown for a while, but not any more downtime.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:04, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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::: Thanks. I am experiencing some slowness (a page takes around 1 minute to load) so that explains that. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 19:44, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

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Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,190edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Done.
Updated the list as the author.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,190edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Updated!
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,190edit 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Logging server faults

No Never Done

See dedicated subpage
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Misdirected Request error

No Moved to Scratch Wiki:Bugs
Sometimes, when I go to the Test Wikis and back on an iPad, I sometimes get a '412 Misdirected Request' error. However, this does not happen on a desktop computer.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 17:55, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

I guess it's happening because of MediaWiki version. Test Wiki is using old version when compared to English Wiki. Also, there can be another reason: Test Wiki has a backdoor for FTP transfer but it has low probability.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
16:12, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Also, it's '421' error, not '412'.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:26, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
I have this problem too, also on an iPad. I might have gotten it on my computer before, but I don't remember.
---- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,560)  Scratch  Directory 
11:17, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
It happened on my Windows desktop just today. I think the Wifi disconnected when the screen turned off, maybe something similar happened to the iPads?
Jettypumpkin07 (talk | contribs) 11:32, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Change external Scratch links to interwiki links automatically

No Not done
It could be helpful. So, I suggest it.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
15:23, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

TemplatesFTW already does that; or do you mean a different way of automating it? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:02, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Do you mean that you don't have to use the external link markup when linking a scratch profile, ect...? That could be helpful...
ContourLines Logo.png ContourLines Talk | Contributions | Directory 06:57, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
@ContourLines — you already don't have to use the external markup. In fact, S:STYLE says not to use the external link markup (see #internal-scratch-links). You can use [[users:USERNAME]] for users, [[studios:ID]] for studios, and [[projects:ID]] for projects. Ahmetlii suggested to change external links to these interwiki links automatically, then I said that TemplatesFTW already does it. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:50, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
I actually proposed the Scratch Links and added it to S:STYLE (: Anyway, I didn't see that TemplatesFTW does that, yea, I think it was good to add it to the bot.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  03:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

How to Connect to the Physical World Is really outdated

How to Connect to the Physical World is really outdated.
GrahamSH (talk | contribs) 19:26, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Please use internal links for links to other Scratch Wiki pages. As for this, maybe you could try to update part of it yourself?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 06:36, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
@Jammum Thank you for pointing out the usage of an external link. I've corrected the formatting so that @GrahamSH can see how it is done correctly (@Jammum please wait for an EW/administrator to correct if you see this elseware). @GrahamSH I would ask that you be more specific in the types of changes that we should collaborate in order to accomplish. Thanks
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 17:46, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Would it possible to prevent users from using external links to wiki pages in the AbuseFilter?

Question is in title. If this were to be implemented (if it even is possible), would it apply to all non-userspace or just mainspace?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 10:50, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

It's possible but I would never do this because sometimes there's a legitimate use for external links. Possibly an AbuseFilter warning, rather than disallow?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:09, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
I am asking about disallowing external links to other Scratch Wiki pages, not all external links.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 09:46, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
There is sometimes a legitimate use for external links to the Scratch Wiki, e.g.: [1]
Unless you're just talking about content pages. Still, though, there are probably some special cases where disallowing it would be inconvenient. A warning might be good, though. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:43, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
The fullurl template can be used for some of those links that cannot be linked normally, so does that solve the problem?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 07:38, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Allowing borders in custom sigs

I think we should allow borders in custom signatures. S:CSIG states that there shouldn't be borders in custom sigs, but so many people already have it in their signatures (kenny2scratch, 12944qwerty, EIephant_Lover, Dominic305, ahmetlii, ContourLines, ajsya, etc.) As long as the border isn't needlessly large or flashy, I believe it's fine.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  03:14, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't recall whether the rule disallows all borders. In either case, though, this is a conflict of interest because I see you have borders in your signature too...
I agree, but then again I have borders already as well. I'd prefer if some people without borders contributed an opinion.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:11, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
I think it's fine as long as it's not too large or draws any extra attention to the signature. I'm not sure how large "too large" would be though.
Groko13 Logo.png Groko13 / talk / contribs 15:07, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
I agree too; I think also as long as it doesn't break lines (like text shadows) it should be allowed. But I'm biased too because I use them :P
---- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,560)  Scratch  Directory 
16:20, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! August 27th, 2020

Welcome to the 31st Thankful Thursday! August 27th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
EXAMPLE (talk | contribs)
Groko13 (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for pointing out the error in my TT post!
    Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 13:43, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for fixing the error in my TT post!
    Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 13:43, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
ContourLines (talk | contribs)
Naleksuh (talk | contribs)
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for always being kind when telling someone about a mistake and always using a smiley emoticon at the end of your posts!
    ContourLines Logo.png ContourLines Talk | Contributions | Directory 08:05, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for showing me how to format posts correctly.
    Acebsa (talk | contribs) 20:56, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs)
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


The next TT is, September 25th, see you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 00:05, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

No Not done
<scratchsig>Jakel181 (talk | contribs)

Time for some more...images that will be featured!

No Not done

I don't know, I had to think of another title idea. :P

If you have any ideas for featured images, feel free to post them below! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 01:58, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

I think we should feature an image of the S:CPND discussion that suggests adding a designated page for featured image suggestions. :P
I think that this image is nice, but perhaps we should update it (and the other images on Scratch Statistics).
Groko13 Logo.png Groko13 / talk / contribs 03:51, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
I'm thinking this image is good enough to be featured.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
07:04, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
@Groko13 — yes. :P
How about File:Flag as Inappropriate.png? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:05, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
+1, but first change the file's name with a consensus.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
16:56, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
(Update: File:Flag as Inappropriate.png is now File:Report Project.png.) :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:44, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
File:Flag as Inappropriate.png also needs to be updated, the report button was moved.
---- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,560)  Scratch  Directory 
01:36, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────+1 for the report project image!
@Dominic305 Added the template to File:Report Project.png. Someone can update it if they wish.
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:52, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes Updated
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  18:53, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

RfC about the usage of fixed with in ScratchWikiSkin2

Hello all. As you may have noticed, ScratchWikiSkin2 seems to used a fixed width (similar to Fandom's Oasis skin), as a holdover from previous skins designed to look similar to scratch.mit.edu -- however, I and several other users have noticed an increasing number of problems using fixed width. Fixed widths generally leave a large amount of the screen entirely unused, and show a small amount of the page content. It also introduces design problems that rely on fixed width and break for some users. The current, fixed width style, looks a bit like this. I am proposing to use free-styled width based on the screen resolution (a mockup something like [ https://i.imgur.com/UEd14yX.png this], ignore the blue line, that is accidental and will not be shown in the final version). This allows for a larger content space, as well as making the view more consistent across skins. Please let me know if you support or oppose this proposal.
Naleksuh.jpg Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 00:44, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Addendum: I would also appreciate if all could specify what skin they use when commenting? (The information is helpful, most are likely either using ScratchWikiSkin2 or Vector, but others like me primarily use Monobook).
Naleksuh.jpg Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 01:12, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
I support. Fixed width looks terrible. (Reply to the addendum: I use SWS2)
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  01:08, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
(SWS2 user) Consistency across skins is completely irrelevant - consistency with the Scratch website is more important. We use fixed width to emulate the mainsite, which does the same. If you want free width, you can make a user CSS file for it.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:50, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
I personally am of the belief that consistency with the Scratch website is "completely irrelevant" -- this is a third party site with different needs and goals. This is where a lot of the design has been poured into as well, such as by changing the header to a different color. There does indeed appear to be support for increasing the width apart from Kenny2scratch's comment. However, custom CSS files are not relevant here as what is being discussed is not personal views (I use Monobook) but what would actually improve the skin, primarily to those logged out and browsing the wiki.
Naleksuh.jpg Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 17:50, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
I agree with the above statement. I have an ebic gamer HD monitor, and SWS2 is tiny on my monitor. There are at least 500 pixels of free space. It almost looks like it was designed for a tablet (it fits perfectly on iPadOS). This is the reason why I use Vector because it takes up almost all of my monitor space. You technically could make a CSS script for it, but the majority of users here (not everyone) don't know any other programming languages and/or markup languages than Scratch.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  15:51, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
If you like Vector, use Vector. If you like SWS2 enough to keep using it but also want non-fixed width, then use user CSS. For those not logged in, fixed width is what they get, because that's what they'll be used to from the Scratch website. I don't consider fill width an improvement, only a matter of preference. Find me examples of people (who have no relation to you) actually asking for fill width SWS on, say, the forums, and then it'll be more worth considering.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
15:45, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
I support. While garnetluvcookie said it looks like it's designed for a tablet, personally I prefer setting zoom to 75% or 85% on most pages. However setting the zoom on the Wiki causes content to get squished and lots of tables (including on File: pages) to overflow into the empty space. And on my 1080p display, it looks like a site designed for computers from 2009.
---- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,560)  Scratch  Directory 
17:31, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Centralized Cross-Wiki Discussion

Hi everyone,

Since all of the various Scratch Wikis are hosted on the same server and part of a common community, they have a number of things in common, including outreach efforts (such as Wiki Wednesday) and technical aspects. This means that some changes (especially technical ones) will affect all wikis, not just the Wiki for one language. We usually like to seek community feedback before implementing major changes, but currently there is no centralized place to do that between all languages. As a result, changes either do not get community input at all or just get input from the community for one language (usually English, i.e. this one). We do have the Test Wiki for both new language-specific Wikis off the ground and coordinating cross-wiki stuff.

Therefore, I propose making it so anyone who has an account on any language-specific Wiki may have an account on the Test Wiki (you would still need to request it, but you can just say "I have an account on [language] Wiki") and that we host all cross-Wiki discussions there. Announcements for any major discussions would still be posted on the English Community Portal so everybody remains aware of any active discussions without having to check the Test Wiki Recent Changes.

Thoughts, everyone?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:39, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

I think this is a great idea. Probably because I helped with writing the proposal, but good!
Naleksuh.jpg Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 01:41, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
I also think this is a great idea! It's important that we have a place for conveniently discussing matters that involve all the wikis, and this would provide that place. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 01:44, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
I agree with this as well!
Groko13 Logo.png Groko13 / talk / contribs 01:57, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
Handy links to the discussions on the other wikis about this:
The discussions on the other wikis link back here (since jvvg used Google Translate to translate this version into each language). I wanted to post these here so that the users reading this topic can see what the users on other wikis think about this idea. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:29, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
This idea would benefit a lot. Also, I have a question about this: would the cross-wiki discussion be separate from the Test Wiki community portal, or would they be on the same page.
I also wrote earlier in a probably now archived topic that I was not planning to join the test wiki, but if this gets implemented, I might join to take part in those discussions.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 06:28, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
The French Scratch Wiki now has a discussion about this here: fr:Discussion Scratch Wiki en Français:Accueil de la Communauté#Centralized Scratch Wiki Discussions :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:28, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
Also, the discussion on the Japanese Scratch Wiki was moved to this page: ja:Japanese Scratch-Wiki:議論の場/一元化されたクロスWikiディスカッション :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:31, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
I have another question about this idea: if this were to happen, would any language be used (I myself do not speak any language other than English fluently) or will only English be used in cross-wiki discussions?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 17:19, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
I support, even though I already have a test wiki account :P. Also, we should consider modifying common.js so it shows "Test" rather than "Twi" in the left sidebar, but I'll add that as a proposal to the new Test Wiki CP when it's set up.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:29, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── (Level of indentation is to reply to OP) Question about the Request on Test Wiki thing; I have moved since I requested, do I have to request an account for this account, or can I use my new account?
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  15:47, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

I support, maybe we should make a single sign on so when you have a wiki account you automatically get a test wiki account.
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 20:57, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

An idea

Hi everyone, I had an idea recently to make a way for non-wiki editors to suggest changes if they don't want to go through the hassle of making a wiki account. Maybe a google form or something that editors can look at and, if needed, make the change.
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 04:12, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Scratchers are allowed to suggest changes through the Scratch Wiki's forum topic.
Naleksuh.jpg Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 04:16, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
For reference, the Scratch Wiki forum topic is located here. It is also used to ask questions about the wiki as well.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 06:20, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
The issue with that, I found, is that few actually know about it and the non-wikian posts are just random questions about scratch in general.
ContourLines Logo.png ContourLines Talk | Contributions | Directory 16:36, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 107#Tell users on Wiki Wednesday topics not to spam in replies continuation

I am just reviving the discussion mentioned in the title above because it was archived and it did not seem to be completed. Also, on the latest Wiki Wednesday topic, no notice in the first post telling Scratchers not to spam in the topic was put in.

In the discussion linked above, I mentioned some examples of what the notice would mention as being spam. I also think posts only saying 'Hi', 'Hello' or something similar could also be mentioned as being spam.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 15:37, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Isn't it just common sense not to spam? It's already against the CGs, so I don't see a use for it or it's because I stalk the Announcements forum, get a first-page post, and move on. It could be useful to the 5 year-olds here that need a notice saying "Don't spam, it's sUpEr AnNoYiNg!11!!1"
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  15:42, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

RfC about User:Gdpr000001, User talk:Gdpr000001 and S:B redirects

As explained in the title, these are discussed on their related talk pages and User talk:Ahmetlii, but I'd like to an RfC for solving the question.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
06:27, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

The first two have already been discussed at Talk:Gdpr0000001#Removing_several_redirects_to_this_page to delete, neutral on where S:B is targetted.
Naleksuh.jpg Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 06:29, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
But also, the discussion about gdpr has a few users and only 2 active users(me and Naleksuh), this doesn't mean a consensus because it goes to a discussion between two users.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
06:34, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion: Resolved and Unresolved Templates

No Not done

There are many discussions on talk pages on the wiki that get abandoned until someone discovers them again. Wouldn't it be helpful if we had a list of all the pages with unresolved discussions that have yet to be finished? Here are some advantages to a list like this:

  • In many cases, discussions won't get abandoned without being documented as unresolved discussions somewhere.
  • Users who want discussions to contribute to can just look at the list for some unresolved discussions.
  • It would improve the wiki's organization.

I think one way we could implement a system like this would be with two templates: {{unresolved}} and {{resolved}}.

The {{unresolved}} template would mark the discussion with "unresolved." It would also add the page to the hidden category Category:Pages With Unresolved Discussions, and provide a link to the category. If the page was in the "User talk" namespace, it would not be added to the category. This is so that if users want to use the templates on their own talk pages, they can, but users looking for discussions to participate in won't have to dig through user talk pages. There would also be a cat=no option to manually prevent the page from being added to the category. I've created a draft of this template at User:Bigpuppy/Unresolved. Note that the category part is commented out right now, so that pages don't get added to a nonexistent category. If this suggestion gets accepted, it will be un-commented.

The {{resolved}} template would mark the discussion with "resolved." It would have a date parameter that would show when the discussion was resolved. Resolved discussions would not be added to any category (unless that is something we want). I've created a draft of this template at User:Bigpuppy/Resolved.

Here are answers to some questions you may have:

Don't we already have the Yes Done and No Not done templates?
Yes. However, those templates don't have all of the functionality that the {{resolved}} and {{unresolved}} templates would provide. If we added this functionality to the Yes Done and No Not done templates, all of the discussions that were not actually marked Yes Done but still have the template on them (e.g. if the template was used in casual conversation) would be added to the category.
Would these templates replace the Yes Done and No Not done templates?
No. Those templates would still be used in casual conversation and in tandem with the {{resolved}} and {{unresolved}} templates (e.g. "is this conversation Yes Done?"). The {{resolved}} and {{unresolved}} templates would be used more formally at the top of discussions.
Would use of these templates be required?
No. However, it would be recommended, so that the page gets added to the category of pages with unresolved discussions.
Would anyone be allowed to add these templates to any discussion, even ones they didn't create?
Yes. Similar to how the Yes Done and No Not done templates are used now, anyone would be able to mark a discussion as resolved or unresolved, even if they didn't create it.
The drafts you created look curiously similar to the {{shortcut}} template.
That's because I based part of their code on the {{shortcut}} template. :P

Kenny2scratch implemented semi-similar templates at User talk:Kenny2scratch/Permalinks. They are similar in that they are templates located in the top-right of a discussion and show whether the discussion is done or not.

So, thoughts? Do you like the idea? Do you think it could use some improvement? Do you think we shouldn't create these templates at all? Please share your thoughts below. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 19:44, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

We already have S:CPND as a "unresolved" placeholder archive. I didn't see any usage of it unless marking "resolved" and "unresolved", and this gets another question: Will it be done or will not? (like 1 and 0, not includes 2 or 4). I don't think it's not important enough and @Kenny2scratch is using his permalinks to "never done" topics. I can support never done but not resolved-unresolved. Any opinions?
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:57, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
S:CPND isn't really relevant here because this wouldn't necessarily be used on the CP (but it could); the main purpose is for things like article talk pages. Could you clarify what you mean in the rest of your comment? Also, User talk:Kenny2scratch/Permalinks includes done topics; look at the statuses on the right of each discussion. However, that was just an example. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:03, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't think it's necessary for article talk pages, because they don't need an archive or a job queue. It's not necessary as I think and said before.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
06:59, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your opinion. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:29, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
You're welcome. :)
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:30, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Couldn't we just add the functionality to {{done}} and {{not done}}?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  20:01, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Please see the answer to "Don't we already have the Yes Done and No Not done templates?" in my original post. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:41, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

True, but you also stated that we could use cat=no as the default cat option. That way, all you'd need to do for casual conversation is add {{not done}} on the section. But on an "official" conversation, we would add cat=yes.
2 questions though: Would only {{unresolved}} add to a category? And, doesn't adding to a category add the entire page?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:00, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Oops, first question has been answered as soon as i posted lol
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

GitHub interwiki links

There seem to be a lot of GitHub links (including references) to the Scratch Wiki. Although the URL is not very long, maybe LLK github links (and maybe other github links) could have an interwiki link made for them (such as gh-llk, not 'gh' due to the presence of non-LLK github links as well).
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 06:48, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

I don't think so. Github is an external link, even its links host Scratch repos. They may cause confusion. Plain links are a better solution.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
06:52, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

About updating MediaWiki

TL;DR: We're doing some tests to update MediaWiki due to some problems. Probably the wiki shut down for a few hours when it's ready to be installed. (Note: This is not an official explanation because made by me, so may be ignored)

As the developers, we're currently experiencing some problems on general extensions due to errors; and to solve them, we're thinking to upgrade our wiki to 1.35. This upgration will change a lot of things, from icons to security patch; so we're doing patches to ensure that our extensions will work successfully. When all preparations are completed, probably someone from admins will make an explanation.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:46, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Where did you get the information about the MediaWiki update here?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 06:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Megathread: MediaWiki Version Bump

TL;DR: We're upgrading to MediaWiki Version 1.35. Date: (to be determined)

Why upgrade?

Currently we're using MediaWiki 1.28, which is unsupported. This caused some problems and MW 1.28 is also incompatible with some extensions. This is why we upgrade to MediaWiki 1.35, a LTS version soon to be stable.

Timeline

Time not set, but this is a big project which can take weeks.

Checklist

Extensions and Skins:

  • Yes Compatible ScratchWikiSkin2
  • Yes Compatible ScratchLogin (patch applied to fix warning)
  •  Incompatible ConfirmAccount (new version WIP)
  • Yes Compatible Report (patch needs review)
  • Yes Compatible ScratchSig
  • No Incompatible EditAccount
  • Yes Compatible ScratchBlocks4
  • Yes Compatible RecentChangesWebhooks
  • Yes Compatible VisualEditor (but sb blocks will be only seen as string)

Bots:

  • Yes Compatible InterwikiBot
  • Yes Compatible TemplatesFTW
  •  Internal errors WikiMonitor (has problems about dependencies)

Misc:

  • Yes Compatible Special:BlockList patch - new version created
  • Yes Compatible Common.css
  •  Incompatible Common.js (sigwarn is problematic)

Discussion

This is gonna be big.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,190edit 08:24, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Question: Is Vector going to be compatible with it? I sometimes use SWS2 but I mostly use Vector on my laptop.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  13:43, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
@garnetluvcookie: Definitely because MediaWiki uses Vector as default.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
13:45, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks!
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  13:55, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
While we are doing this, can we add the VisualEditor? I have used it at snapwiki.miraheze.org, and it works great! I'm so excited for this update!
GrahamSH (talk | contribs) 22:27, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
We are planning on adding the Visual Editor, however a bit of adaptation is necessary.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  01:03, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Why is the VisualEditor incompatible with ScratchWikiSkin2? As far as I know, (and I've been exploring this) the skin has all of the necessary hooks. Has anyone tried it?
GrahamSH (talk | contribs) 16:21, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
@GrahamSH: I tried and tested. I know it has all necessary hooks, but also it cannot simulate the editing visually(because our skin is restrictive). We (as all developers in the Wikis) are looking for compatibility.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
16:25, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Update: VisualEditor is working currently with a few unimportant things like sb is not seen as block.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
18:14, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────(Remember to outdent at 6) What changes are there between 1.28 and 1.35? I know there's visual editor but I'm not sure what else.
---- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,560)  Scratch  Directory 
00:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

If Scratchblocks are to be added to the VisualEditor here, how will they be inputted?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 07:02, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
@Jammum: We're working on it for editing blocks visually. Probably we will use text, but also the blocks will be seen instantly on VisualEditor when someone did an edit on the Scratchblocks text.
@Dominic305: There are a lot changes, I suggest you to read all changelogs between 1.28 and 1.35.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
07:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Will the extension Popups be enabled instead of the current thing in the common.js? Popups, (the extension) is much better.
GrahamSH (talk | contribs) 12:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Also, since Special:BlockList patch is broken, you could try using https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Lockdown
GrahamSH (talk | contribs) 14:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the helping, but the developers is thinking that manually editing MediaWiki is better than use an extension for it. Anyway, thanks again! :)
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
14:24, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
I am not sure where Ahmetlii got the idea above-- nobody has even suggested that, in addition to it being a bad idea for a number of technical reasons that I am sure ISW understands. There have not been any suggestions for a way of implementing Special:BlockList privacy, but I will see about some solutions.
Naleksuh.jpg Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 18:19, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── For VisualEditor, couldn't you do something similar to the way it's done in scratch forums?
I wish I could help but I don't know a single thing about PHP
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

I don't think so. BBS systems and wikis are two different things. btw, I'm not also good at PHP (my specialty is Python on backend)
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
18:42, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
They are, but I wasn't saying that you use the systems. I was just saying to use the concepts of how the scratchblocks are entered into the visual space.
SAME, but I actually don't know a single thing of PHP
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  19:03, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Actually, it could look for typeof="mw:Extension/scratchblocks"
GrahamSH (talk | contribs) 19:48, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
What do you mean by the tags are found? We use <scratchblocks> tags to make scratchblocks on the wiki...
In the visualeditor, we could just make a button, that will make something similar to the templates popup in the visualeditor. Then edit and it makes the block!
Edit conflict lol, but I wouldn't recommend deleting your entire post and replacing it with something else. It doesn't tell others what your previous thoughts were, (they could support you, or not) And is that typof= supposed to link anywhere?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  20:01, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
In the visualeditor, elements with scratchblock have typeof="mw:Extension/scratchblocks" in their html. But, there is no text (shown) that says <scratchblocks>
GrahamSH (talk | contribs) 01:05, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
That's because <scratchblocks> get's replaced with <pre class="block"> or <code class="block"> to make scratch blocks...
I'm sorry but I don't understand your point.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:36, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I looked at the MediaWiki website and it said that the EditAccount extension is archived, which might be why it does not work on the latest MediaWiki version. Is it going to be forked or replaced?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 10:10, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

We're working on it. The only thing is we will not use EditUser (because it's so restrictive). Please check the GitHub repos of the International Scratch Wiki for public changelogs of the Scratch Wiki systems.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
11:17, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

am i allowed to edit user messages if...

Am I allowed to edit user messages if the user calls me something I don't like to be called (only to fix what they call me)? Lots of people call me "Garnetluvcookie", which I don't like because I'm very sensitive about how the G in my name is capitalized.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  18:40, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

That is not an allowed usage of editing others' messages. Especially not when Garnetluvcookie is infact your username, although you may prefer something else and are allowed to make others aware of that.
Naleksuh.jpg Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 19:08, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
oml is this just to trigger me
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  19:36, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
also my scratch username is @garnetluvcookie, MediaWiki just auto capitalized the G.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  19:38, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
The message was not intended to "trigger" anything-- you asked a question and I answered it. While I am aware that MediaWiki does strictly capitalize username, and you are allowed to edit your signature or use displaytitles on your user (talk) page as appropriate, it would not be appropriate to chastise others for referring to what is your actual name. It also does not constitute editing another users' message as this can sometimes misrepresent what they are saying.
Naleksuh.jpg Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 19:57, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Ah yes, because changing the capitalization of a username changes the meaning of the message. To garnetluvcookie, ask Ken about it on his talk page. He is also sensitive about what people call him.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  00:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Just don't ask him right now, of course. He's busy with his studies. (So am I but I can't resist replying to talk messages...)
---- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,560)  Scratch  Directory 
00:22, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

"Ah yes, because changing the capitalization of a username changes the meaning of the message." This sarcastic comment is not helpful here. The point is that messages are edited when they are in violation of policies or when they are causing some other problem (for example, messages with erroneous formatting such as unclosed tags, messages adding a page to a category, or something like that. In addition, I have had others edit my messages in a way that changes their meaning before that has needed to be undone. The actors were doing so in good faith, but it was still problematic.
"Ken about it on his talk page. He is also sensitive about what people call him." So, he has a bias, meaning probably not the best ask. Instead, see the already existing well-established policy which says it should not be edited. In general, talk page messages are treated like userspace.
Naleksuh.jpg Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 00:44, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
garnetluvcookie, I realize that you may not like the name, but you shouldn't change another person's edit. Instead, you should reply kindly asking them to stop calling you that and to call you the names you prefer.
You also shouldn't be "triggered" against a capitilization. MediaWiki, and autocorrect, will capitilize yours, and others, names.
If they continue calling you that name (or purposely capitilize it), that's a completely different story.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:11, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
The user repeatedly keeps calling me Garnetluvcookie , and I've reported the revisions and no action has beeen taken.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  16:16, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Have you asked the user to stop?
I also don't think reporting the revision for this matter is appropriate.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  17:33, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
I have asked the person to stop at least 4 times.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  17:44, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Ok... but instead of reporting their revision, ask an admin or someone. But please assume good faith in the future. It may be an accident.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  17:58, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I am assuming good faith. It's most likely an accident, but it's just something I'm sensitive about and annoys me... a lot.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  18:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Great! Just a suggestion: maybe include the names you don't want to be called on your userpage.
May I ask why the capital 'G' annoys you?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:20, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Sure. There are many reasons why, but the important one is that I never put capital letters in my usernames because it messes up literally my whole profile page for some reason and makes me look like someone who Talks Like This.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  18:23, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
i just realized i single-handedly blew up the CP 😲
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  18:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
That's a weird reason in my perspective, but you do you....
Only 4 KB left to go before archiving ;)
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:35, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Do I what?
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  18:40, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Clarification: You must not use Report extension unless you need to contact admins urgently and privately, like sharing email or vandalism. If you "abused" Report extension, you may be blocked.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,190edit 19:30, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I don't want to start a flame, but I believe that was a fair report because it may seem small to you, but it affects me mentally and emotionally.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  19:34, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Maybe make a less strict report extension? In this case, the 'new' report button could've been used to report a user that hasn't stopped calling garnetluvcookie with a 'G'...
I'm not sure, it's just a thought....
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  19:47, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
So there's been a lot of discussion on both sides of this matter - I thought it would be appropriate to share my two cents on the matter. To be clear, I do not wish for my reply to be hostile, demeaning, or rude, simply a summary on my thoughts.
I do not believe that it is a "weird perspective" to have a preferred way of being referred to as. Sometimes the little things can really tick people off, and I understand that. I also understand that MediaWiki autocapitalizes names, such as jvvg/Jvvg, however we should all take note of people's preferred names and call them by that rather than their MediaWiki name.
In instances where a user has been referred to incorrectly, whether intentionally or inadvertently (as has been stated before, Assume Good Faith :)), the proper course of action should be to ask the user nicely not to refer to you as that and give a correct preferred name, which I can see has been done here multiple times. I understand it may upset/annoy the user who has been incorrectly referred to, however editing a message should not happen, which I can also see has not taken place. Good job!
Reporting should also not usually be used in these circumstances - instead, CC an admin or EW into the conversation and they will (hopefully) ask the user nicely to use the correct name.
@garnetluvcookie I understand that how you are referred to affects you deeply. Please don't think you are being told off here. In fact, by asking the user nicely to not call you by a certain name, you've done the right thng. Well done. :)
I think we all need to calm down and hold off sarcastic, snidy, or mean comments. We're a community built on being welcoming and enjoyable, let's keep it that way. :)
border=3px Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 20:03, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Small question: what do you mean by CC? Isn't that a copyright
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  20:09, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
@12944qwerty CC, as in, carbon copy, I assume.
If you didn't know, CC is for sending a copy to another user for their information. Primary recipients are addressed as "TO" and others as "CC". (there's also BCC, but I don't want to go into more detail) :P
TenType (talk | contribs) 20:28, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Oh, that makes sense lol. thanks
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:13, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

archive the CP

I'm amazed that i basically made it blow up :P (i need to reset my sig so unsigned)
-unsigned comment by garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs)

 Archiving...
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:01, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
Yes Archived
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 20:26, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Increase the file size thingy (read this to get it)

No Not done
i can't explain anything so here goes... I've seen many people getting the "compress every file you upload if it's not under 2 KB" message. Why? These users uploaded files that are like 6 KB. 6 KB!!! That's incredibly small, at least for file sizes. I believe that the minimum file size for compression should be raised to 20 KB because that's a size that's small, but large enough that it's too big. Thoughts?
Glc.jpg ♥ garnetluvcookie ♥ | ♥ talk ♥ | ♥ contribs ♥ 00:56, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

I think the title of this topic should actually be "Increase the file size thingy (read this to get it)" (or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?) :)
Also, could you please clarify which message you're talking about?
  • Special:Upload states "Is the image's filesize over 300KB? If it is, please compress it. TinyPNG is recommended for PNGs and JPEGs (contrary to the name, it does support JPEG)."
  • The abuse filter warning that appears when you upload a file that's too large also uses the 300KB number, stating "If your file is over 300KB, please compress it. TinyPNG is recommended for PNGs and JPGs."
  • The message that TemplatesFTW posts on users' talk pages after it compresses their files does not state any number, but rather states that "... the image size was kinda big ...".
None of the above messages mention that you should "compress every file you upload if it's not under 2 KB," so could you please clarify which message you are talking about? If I'm missing something obvious, please point it out. Thank you! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk | contribs 01:36, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
Ahh, yes I meant increase, it's just pretty late where I am and I'm a bit sleepy. Also, the compress if it's over 2 KB thing was a joke to show how low the compressing thing is :P. I'll fix the post before I fall asleep in my chair.
Glc.jpg ♥ garnetluvcookie ♥ | ♥ talk ♥ | ♥ contribs ♥ 02:08, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
Yeah people take compression way too seriously. Maybe at 30mb losslessly you should consider compressing, but there's no reason to compress something already only 20 kb (which is incredibly small in 2020, a lot of JavaScript files are bigger). Some images have been compressed so aggressively that the text becomes difficult to read and have needed to be reverted. The file dimensions were recently increased to 1080p a couple weeks ago, but there hasn't been much comment on file size. I personally think that an increase on file size limit would be very helpful as compression has been taken way too seriously (in most cases it has almost no benefit, although there are always exceptions). In addition, admins for some reason can upload files up to 218 times larger than non-admins, which again I think is another unnecessary line.
Naleksuh.jpg Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 02:19, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
Exactly. All it does is decreases file size by like 4 KB. Personally I think that compression is taken wayy too seriously here.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  02:31, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Tone down the rejected messages on S:BR archives

Note Note: None of this was made to offend the people who reject bot requests. Please take no offense.

Some of the rejected summaries at S:BR rejected requests are very unwelcoming. For example, my rejected message had "User has no programming experience" which comes off extremely rude, and when I do have programming experience (if you count Scratch as a programming language... *awkward smile*). The only reason that I don't is because I'm incredibly young, not even in middle school. If I was 5 years older, I would've created a bot already. (Please don't argue this point against me, I don't want the summary bored into my head)

Also, a user may not have much experience in the language, but that doesn't mean that they are incapable of creating a bot. I know many people online (haha don't ask about IRL) that are new to the language that they chose, but they've created amazing stuff. It's enforcing the stereotype of "young children are dumb and can't do complex stuff". No matter how minor, it's still showing bad behavior as a role-model.

This doesn't mean that the admins need to rewrite every single rejected summary, they just need to be more considerate about how others will feel. extreme nostalgia and/or cringe side affects may occur in 3... 2... 1... It's like that concept that everyone was taught in early grade school, fill others buckets, don't dump them.

now my fingers hurt :P
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  21:57, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

As mysteriously as he arrived, NYCDOT was gone again. Hi. I checked out your BR, and it appears that Ken wrote "Proposer has no programming experience and VoxBot is the only approved typography bot." He said it like it is, you have no experience. What is he supposed to say? We aren't going to give out gold stars to people who propose that they create their own bots without any idea how to do so. Try out a some programming languages before proposing a a new Wiki Bot, and I'm sure the next time you have a BR the admins will be more than happy to review your request. As for the bot idea itself, VoxBot is an approved bot that we know works well and does its job. If you have problems with it, I'm sure KrIsMa will listen to your suggestions.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 18:20, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
I do have programming experience, I just only knew Scratch at the time I suggested it. Also, even though I apparently am dumb, I do know a good bit of Python.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  18:25, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Two things. One, no one ever said you were dumb. Not knowing how to do a certain thing doesn't make you dumb. Two, at the time of the bot request, you pretty much had no experience. While you may have some now, that doesn't change the past. If you think of a new, useful bot, you can propose one again.
NYCDOT Logo.jpg NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 18:38, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Welcome back NYCDOT, I came back recently too :P, also, remember about your indents :P
Scratch is not counted as programming knowledge. Although you could use scratch knowledge to code with other languages, knowing scratch only isn't enough. Can you make a bot with scratch coding? No, you cannot. Ken writing that you have no programming experience is completely fine. You agreed you have no programming experience outside of Scratch.
Although it may be rude for you, it is in no way meant to be rude. Ken wrote all details in his rejected message so that everyone understands why this bot got rejected and so that users don't make a bot for the same reason. There's always a reason for writing things the way it's written.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  19:42, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Try it yourself! (button)

My idea is that there will be some visual scratchblocks, and a button next to it. The user can click on the button, and it will bring them to scratch and remix a project with the code in it. They can then mess around with it.

You could probably use this in


12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:27, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

Can anyone help me understand why the category links aren't showing up?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Actually, we're also working about the embed projects (we have different opinions for make it, so I cannot say a specific info.). You can see everyone in here whose want to help for the Wiki! :)
For the second question, I've fixed it. :)
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
18:28, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
What? I'm confused. What do you mean by "everyone in here whose are want to help for the Wiki"? There's a lot of English mistakes.... can you please fix it so I can understand? Thanks!
OH YEAH, I forgot about putting those for some links...
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  19:20, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
I meant "please check public and private changelogs and also look at RC".
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:29, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
For embedding a scratch project? Can you direct me to it?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  19:43, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Yes Done
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
12:15, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Something's wrong

Yes Done
Something’s up, my signature turns timestamps into code boxes, without the actual code tags appearing. Is this an error with my syntax or is it an actual bug? I’m not sure, so if someone could help me with this, that would be great. I’ve been trying to get it right for weeks. An example of the issue can be found below, or at this page
78ch3ProfilePic.png78ch3: My Talk | Contribs | Main 00:36, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

It's because User:78ch3/Sig has some new lines it should not. There are two line breaks between </span> and <noinclude>. Those new lines should simply be removed (so that it is </span><noinclude> on one line), and then it should be fixed.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 00:47, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
I got up this morning to fix it, but didn’t read this, so when I came here, it turns out I did exactly what you wanted me to do.
78ch3ProfilePic.png78ch3: My Talk | Contribs | Main 21:23, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Yes Done
78ch3ProfilePic.png78ch3: My Talk | Contribs | Main 21:31, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

My Banner

Yes Done

Why did my banner get removed? I needed it for my forum signature and I can't use assets on my computer because it won't load and now my signature won't work.
FollowCherryBlossom (talk | contribs) 16:16, 22 September 2020 (UTC)FollowCherryBlossom

Is this problem related to the forum? If it is, please bring up the topic there and they'll be able to help you more.
Also, remember for the future to write your texts before your signature. This means that you do REPLY/TEXT ~~~~. The four tildes are your signature. Thank you!
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  16:21, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
It was not deleted, it was moved to a different title that was less generic.
Also, the Scratch Wiki should not be used as an image host for Scratch or anywhere else outside the wiki. I recommend you use another hosting site such as CubeUpload to upload your banner.
and i was caught in an edit conflict
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 16:24, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
We're not an image host. Use extensions that upload images to Scratch assets, or look to index.php for deleted images, or host in another website that Scratch allows.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
16:26, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Ah, I just looked at Recent Changes. Your banner didn't get removed. It just got moved so that it had a more specific name. Banner.png could mean that it's a banner for the Mainspace Scratch wiki pages instead.
Your banner is now located here: File:Banner FollowCherryBlossom.png
I had edit conflict too lol, with both jammum and ahmetlii at the same time AND MYSELF oh gods
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  16:28, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
I've editted like three times and the same has happened and okay
FollowCherryBlossom (talk | contribs) 16:31, 22 September 2020 (UTC)FollowCherryBlossom
The reason for doing so is because I don't use cubeupload or photobucket, I thought it had been deleted
FollowCherryBlossom (talk | contribs) 16:32, 22 September 2020 (UTC)FollowCherryBlossom
You should though. This wiki isn't meant to host images, you should use an actual hosting server. Those are some of the best hosting servers.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  17:24, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

out of curiosity...

What's the 3 Revert Rule? I know we use BRD but it's referenced in many places, most notably nutshell. 

also, whatup with my message it's being weird or *looks above* close your tags!!!
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  18:55, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

The 3 revert rule is when you stop to discuss the revert if it has been reverted three times. At least that's what I remember.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  19:11, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't think we have 3RR(Three Revert Rule) here. We instead have BRD - Bold, Revert and Discuss.
Also, indenting your post with a space makes that box thing.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,190edit 13:52, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Another user’s talk page organization

Another user (not mentioning who) on this wiki requires users who post on their talk page that they use level three headings for discussion headings and put their messages in a section (some of which are not at the bottom of the page) on that page, whilst all other talk pages (including user ones) are supposed to use level two headings and require all messages (including bot ones) to go at the bottom of the page. Is the user's way of organising their talk page allowed?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 06:48, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I know this user and I don't believe so.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  12:08, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't think it's allowed, but if it is right now then I think it shouldn't be. It's confusing.
---- Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,560)  Scratch  Directory 
12:13, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

How to curate a project?

I want to know how to curate a project as I am interested to learn how to. I want to encourage my friend so thats one reason. If you got an idea how, please leave a reply so I can see. Thank you so much for everything and may god bless you abundantly! :)
Ani_coding_PRO (talk | contribs) 11:31, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Here ya go: Curator (front_page)#Application_and_Selection
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:36, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
@Ani_coding_PRO: Please ask in the Questions about Scratch forum (link to the forum is on the page) for Scratch-related questions that do not involve this wiki. The wiki is not a replacement for the Scratch Forums.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contributions - 🐱 Scratch) 14:50, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Wiki down?

I got an HTTP 500 error for about 30 seconds a minute ago. Other wikis (I checked de, test, and fr) were up. Was this a server problem?
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  16:24, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

And again...
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  16:28, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
This was a result of some preparatory work we're doing for the upgrade. Unfortunately there wasn't any way to do it without any disruption. However, it should be done now. You may experience some slowdown for a while, but not any more downtime.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:04, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. I am experiencing some slowness (a page takes around 1 minute to load) so that explains that.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  19:44, 24 September 2020 (UTC)