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{{April Fools}}{{/Help Box}}{{good style|cat-at-end}}
 
{{April Fools}}{{/Help Box}}{{good style|cat-at-end}}
[[Category:Community]]
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<noinclude>[[Category:Community]]</noinclude>
 
== Bulletin Board for Not-Done Topics ==
 
== Bulletin Board for Not-Done Topics ==
 
{{not done}} (this will never be done completely, so don't archive!)
 
{{not done}} (this will never be done completely, so don't archive!)
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* [[S:CPND#3.0 updating]]
 
* [[S:CPND#3.0 updating]]
 
* [[S:CPND#What should we call the Scratch 3.0 player?]]
 
* [[S:CPND#What should we call the Scratch 3.0 player?]]
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* [[S:CPND#3.0 updating question]]
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* [[S:CPND#Articles to update for 3.0]]
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==== Articles ====
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* [[S:CPND#Split the Paint Article]]
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* [[S:CPND#New page for mall simulators]]
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* [[S:CPND#Tinkercad Codeblocks]]
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* [[S:CPND#Merging Cloud Data Articles?]]
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* [[S:CPND#Naming Blocks]]
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* [[S:CPND#How to Connect to the Physical World Is really outdated]]
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* [[S:CPND#RfC about User:Gdpr000001, User talk:Gdpr000001 and S:B redirects]]
  
 
==== About Wiki Management ====
 
==== About Wiki Management ====
 
===== Backend =====
 
===== Backend =====
 
* [[S:CPND#Embedding of Scratch Projects]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Embedding of Scratch Projects]]
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* [[S:CPND#Block Problems]]
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* [[S:CPND#Scratchblocks Plugin not Working]]
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* [[S:CPND#A flaw in the "Random Page" button I see]]
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* [[S:CPND#Linking Style Sheets]]
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* [[S:CPND#Misdirected Request error]]
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* [[S:CPND#RfC about the usage of fixed with in ScratchWikiSkin2]]
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* [[S:CPND#Megathread: MediaWiki Version Bump]]
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* [[S:CPND#Increase the file size thingy (read this to get it)]]
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* [[S:CPND#RfC for Interface admins group]]
  
 
===== Page Management =====
 
===== Page Management =====
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* [[S:CPND#Not Done doesn't get enough attention]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Not Done doesn't get enough attention]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Not Done]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Not Done]]
* [[S:CPND#Split the Paint Article]]
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* [[S:CPND#List of deleted pages]]
* [[S:CPND#New page for mall simulators]]
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* [[S:CPND#Scratch Wiki Adventure]]
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* [[S:CPND#Tip of the Day]]
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* [[S:CPND#An idea]]
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* [[S:CPND#Suggestion: Resolved and Unresolved Templates]]
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* [[S:CPND#GitHub interwiki links]]
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* [[S:CPND#make templates like trout]]
  
 
===== Rules =====
 
===== Rules =====
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* [[S:CPND#Relax S:NOSP even more]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Relax S:NOSP even more]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]]
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* [[S:CPND#“Secret” Compliments]]
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* [[S:CPND#Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German]]
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* [[S:CPND#When are we planning to implement the new Flawed Article?]]
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* [[S:CPND#Constructiveness in Community Portal - An Idea]]
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* [[S:CPND#Require custom welcome messages to be transcluded]]
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* [[S:CPND#Custom Signatures]]
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* [[S:CPND#Suggestion: Have a dedicated page for feedback on the account request system]]
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* [[S:CPND#Would it possible to prevent users from using external links to wiki pages in the AbuseFilter?]]
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* [[S:CPND#Allowing borders in custom sigs]]
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* [[S:CPND#Tone down the rejected messages on S:BR archives]]
  
 
===== Interwiki =====
 
===== Interwiki =====
 
* [[S:CPND#We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"]]
 
* [[S:CPND#We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal?]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal?]]
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* [[S:CPND#Centralized Cross-Wiki Discussion]]
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===== Community =====
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* [[S:CPND#Scratch Wiki YT Channel]]
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* [[S:CPND#Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 107#Tell users on Wiki Wednesday topics not to spam in replies continuation]]
  
 
To make sure that your thread will not be archived put the template {{not done}} at the top.
 
To make sure that your thread will not be archived put the template {{not done}} at the top.
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:::Updated the list as the author.{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Updated the list as the author.{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Updated! {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Updated! {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Updated. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 14:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
  
 
== Logging server faults ==
 
== Logging server faults ==
 
{{not done|Never Done}}
 
{{not done|Never Done}}
  
Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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[[/Logging server faults|See dedicated subpage]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
{| class="wikitable" width="100%"
 
! Time
 
! Errors
 
! Details/Comments
 
<!-- Add new items below this comment, following this format:
 
|-
 
| time of incident (make it as accurate as you can)
 
| HTTP error code if it connected, browser error code if it failed. For example, "503 Service Unavailable" or "ERR_TIMED_OUT"
 
| Details of incident, like what page you were on, what you were trying to do, etc~~~~
 
(the ~~~~ is necessary, that's your signature lol)
 
-->
 
|-
 
| 8 August 2018
 
| 400 Bad Request<br/>503 Service Unavailable
 
| I was editing [[User:Kenny2scratch/common.js]], and when I clicked "save page" I hit a "400 Bad Request" error. I pressed the browser "back" button (thanks Chrome for caching form data), and clicked "save page" again, and I encountered "503 Service Unavailable". I went back again, resubmitted, and the edit went through.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 10:26 AM, 3 September 2018 (GMT)
 
| Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties
 
| I clicked on random page{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 5:27 PM, 3 September 2018 (HKT)
 
| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties"
 
| I was literally attempting to edit this section. When I clicked the "edit" link, it brought me to a page that said:
 
<big>'''Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.'''</big><br/>
 
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.<br/>
 
<small>(Cannot access the database)</small>
 
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:You can try searching Google in the meantime.<br/><small>Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.</small>
 
{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 10:07-11:20 PM, 8 September 2018 (HKT)
 
| Major outage across all wikis
 
| Multiple screenshots: [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487987719411204102/Screen_Shot_2018-09-08_at_10.08.33_AM.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487988142184595478/Screen_Shot_2018-09-08_at_10.10.22_AM.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487987682132230148/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487987425193492492/Screen_Shot_2018-09-08_at_10.07.28_AM.png][https://pastebin.com/jkxGm6P4 this is the most useful error][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487988331226071060/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487989244506144775/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487990014861377536/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487990367946407958/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/488005118428577792/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/488005028028874754/unknown.png]
 
  
Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
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== Change external Scratch links to interwiki links automatically ==
|-
 
| 10:44 AM, 2 October 2018 (GMT)
 
| 508 Resource Limit Reached
 
| Edit a user's talk page{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 4:40 AM, 2 January 2019 (CST)
 
| 508 Resource Limit Reached
 
| Trying to create a redirect page. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 4:58 PM, 8:02 PM, 10:22 PM, 10:25 PM @ 3 January 2019 (HKT); 12:46 AM @ 4 January 2019 (HKT)
 
| 508 Resource Limit Reached
 
<br/>503 Service Unavailable
 
<br/>File upload fail
 
| Frequent outages across all wikis. Most likely caused by traffic spike from 3.0.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
<!-- add new items above here -->
 
|-
 
| 9:12 AM, 4 January 2019 (CST) <br/> 9:17 AM, 4 January 2019 (EST)
 
| "Service Unavailable Error [...]<br/>503 Service Unavailable Error"<br/>"508 Resource Limit Reached"
 
| Trying to enter my talk, kept refreshing until worked, came to CP to log fault. Errors repeated until worked. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 15:02:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
| Fatal exception of type DBQueryError
 
| I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 9:02 AM, 7 February 2019 (CST)
 
| 508 Resource Limit Reached
 
| Trying to go to [[How to Make a Typewriter Effect]]. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 4:50 AM, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
| HTTP error: error
 
| Clicked the ''Show preview'' button while editing [[User:TenType/Header]], when it did not preview and received the error. Clicking the button again resolved the issue. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 11:00 PM, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 
| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."
 
| Literally attempted to access en.scratch-wiki.info and a few other pages, when I received this:
 
<big>'''Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.'''</big><br/>Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.<br/><small>(Cannot access the database)</small>
 
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:You can try searching via Google in the meantime.
 
:<small>Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.</small><br/>
 
Waited for like 10 minutes while reloading and the error finally cleared.
 
<scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 07:17, 25 June 2019 (HKT)
 
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| 08:25, 22 January 2020 (EST)
 
| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."
 
| Tried to navigate to my userpage from another article, and got [https://ibb.co/qMqwN4M the error].{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 13:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 13:26, 2nd April 2020 (UTC)
 
| 2020-04-02 13:26:04: Fatal exception of type DBQueryError
 
| Pressed the edit box on the wiki sandbox. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 13:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| Sometime around 22:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 
| "MediaWiki internal error. Exception caught inside exception handler. [...]"
 
| Clicked on the Recent Changes link on the sidebar, [https://cubeupload.com/im/bigpuppy/ScratchWikiErrorRC.png screenshot here]<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:41, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 22:42, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 
| "MediaWiki internal error. Original exception: [...]"
 
| Was accepting an account, [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331669762121924608/695401315022536714/unknown.png screenshot here] <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 22:51, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 
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| 18:43, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 
| "Forbidden
 
  
You don't have permission to access this resource.
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{{done}}<br/>It could be helpful. So, I suggest it.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 15:23, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
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:TemplatesFTW [[Special:Diff/254239|already does that]]; or do you mean a different way of automating it? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:02, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
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::Do you mean that you don't have to use the external link markup when linking a scratch profile, ect...? That could be helpful...{{User:ContourLines/Signature}} 06:57, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
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:::@ContourLines  {{-}} you already don't have to use the external markup. In fact, [[S:STYLE]] says not to use the external link markup (see [[Scratch Wiki:Style Guide#internal-scratch-links|#internal-scratch-links]]). You can use <code><nowiki>[[users:USERNAME]]</nowiki></code> for users, <code><nowiki>[[studios:ID]]</nowiki></code> for studios, and <code><nowiki>[[projects:ID]]</nowiki></code> for projects. Ahmetlii suggested to change external links to these interwiki links automatically, then I said that TemplatesFTW already does it. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:50, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
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::::I actually proposed the Scratch Links and added it to [[S:STYLE]] (: Anyway, I didn't see that TemplatesFTW does that, yea, I think it was good to add it to the bot. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 03:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Ahmetlii, I think this is {{done}}; is that correct? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
  
Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
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== How do I make a fill width CSS for SWS2 ==
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| Whenever you put a template (e.g. <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki>) in the search bar and press enter. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 18:51, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 22:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
| 503 Service Unavailable
 
| Was patrolling Recent Changes, [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/704464708488658995/unknown.png screenshot here] <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 23:10, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
|-
 
| 12:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
| Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
 
| Pressed the Recent Changes link in Navigation. [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710107723806801985/710107795734921247/Screenshot_2020-05-13-15-25-09-88.png Screenshot here]<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 12:30, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
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| 20:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 
| IP ban on three 403s in a short space of time
 
| Perform an action that the server deems to be unacceptable (such as using the search box for queries like <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> and repeat three times. The server will IP ban you, since those 403s appear to be a warning. IP bans typically last a day, and I don't think there is a fix for this, but I'm logging it anyway. Anyone can edit this message to further explain the IP banning, however. Further information may in future help track down our issue and potentially resolve it.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 20:10, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 
|-
 
|2 May 2020
 
|Page content does not update
 
|I was creating [[Language Tutorials/C/HelloWorldExampleProgram]], and when I clicked "Show Preview" the contents I had entered before got shown on both the preview and the editing area! I lost all my work due to that. An important note is that I was on a mobile.<scratchsig>R4356th</scratchsig> 12:55, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 
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|20.05, 10 June 2020 (TSI)
 
|403 Forbidden Error
 
|I tried to send a welcome message to an user's talk page with my [[User:Ahmetlii/Welcome Sender|Welcome Sender]], hit the button and got an error message. Link is [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?action=edit&preload=%3Ccenter%3E%3Cdiv+style%3D%22color%3Agold%3B+background-color%3Awhite%3B+text-align%3Acenter%3B+border%3A+10px+solid+%234d97ff%3B+width%3A+90%25%3B+height%3Aauto%3B+padding%3A10px%3B+border-radius%3A50px%3B+moz-border-radius%3A+50px%3B+webkit-border-radius%3A+50px%22%3E+Welcome+to+the+Scratch+Wiki%21+I%27m+ahmetlii%21+You+can+find+me+at+%5B%5Busers%3Aahmetlii%7Chere+in+Scratch%5D%5D.+Also%2C+my+user+page+can+find+at+%5B%5BUser%3AAhmetlii%7Chere.%5D%5D+If+you+have+a+question%2C+%5B%5BUser+talk%3AAhmetlii%7Cyou+can+send+a+message+to+me.%5D%5D+Also%2C+you+can+ask+to+all+the+Wiki+users+and+admins+in+their+talk+pages+or+in+the+Community+Portal.&editintro=&summary=&nosummary=&prefix=&minor=&section=new&title=User+talk%3AMintlush-&create=Welcome+a+user here.]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 17:11, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 
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|22.02, 16 June 2020 (TSI)
 
|Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
 
|I was in [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Scratch_Trends&diff=prev&oldid=250255 here].{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:08, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
 
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:Could we have a dedicated page to that?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Nah, just here is fine.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::{{not done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. <small>(archives)</small> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Not too many right now.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::{{not done|Never done!}} Server faults will always come. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 
:Do we not have [[Scratch_Wiki:Known_Bugs|this?]]{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).
 
::Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::::There are kinda a lot of faults now, I believe we should create another page for it. <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 16:08, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::I mean, we could always just add /Server_Faults as the path and switch this there. It wouldn't be that big of a hassle, you can just copy and paste it. And there are more and more coming anyways, so it's not oing to be too long before it gets very long.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 10:29, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::This is so long that it's now a hassle for scrolling through CP. I think we should definitely create another page for it; maybe link to it from the CP? {{User:VFDan/Sig}}
 
{{outdent|6}}I agree with VFDan. We could also just collapse it, although that would not stop it from making the CP loading time longer.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:07, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== List of deleted pages ==
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As per title. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 21:11, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
{{not done}}
 
  
(Brought up here after discussion [[User talk:Jammum#About your Deleted Pages page|here]].)
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== Thankful Thursday! September 24{{th}}, 2020 ==
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 032}}
  
So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
* [[User:Mathfreak231/Deleted pages recovery|Mathfreak231's]], which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
 
* [[User:kenny2scratch/Deleted pages recovery|Mine]], which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
 
* [[User:Jammum/Deleted Pages|Jammum's Deleted Pages]], which are more recent than either of the above
 
* [[User:Jammum/All Pages That Have Been Deleted|Jammum's All Deleted Pages]], which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)
 
  
I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]].
 
  
;Advantages
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The next TT is, October 29{{th}}, see you then!
* More organized
 
* One place for all
 
* Can be updated by anyone
 
  
;Disadvantages
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{{done}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 12:28, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
:''None I can think of off the top of my head''
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: wow big thanks <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 12:43, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
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::Whoa! Thanks! {{E|:)}}{{User:4096bits/Signature}} 13:06, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
  
Thoughts? Shall we do it?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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== Merge Check users and Supressors user groups with bureaucrats or administrators ==
:I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::+1 :) {{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::: Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::::To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?  <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::::: I think the page will not be notable enough to go there. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]]. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}I say aye.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:: Are we going to do this? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Okay, I just created a page called [[User:TenType/Deleted Files]], was scrolling through the Community Portal, and found this discussion. {{e|:/}} <br/> Maybe this page could contain pages only and not files? (I really spent a lot of time and effort onto my deleted files page) Anyways, still waiting for a response on whether or not this project will be started. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Why not? It sounds like a great idea; let's get started. How do you guys find deleted pages anyway (just wondering)? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 15:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Why hasn't this happened yet? :P <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 16:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::I don't know, VFDan. It's a good idea, and I would love to see this on the wiki. <scratchsig>Ew10528</scratchsig> 11:55, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Welcome templates ==
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Except for the Interface Admin user group, two other user groups were added in the new MediaWiki upgrade. They are mentioned in the title of this topic. I think those groups are unnecessary and could be merged and have their rights moved to other usergroups. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 05:24, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
{{done}}
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: These were actually removed already removed in 28, but were inadvertently restored by the upgrade. However, I personally feel like they should not be removed for a number of reasons:
 
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:: 1) CheckUser and Suppressor inherently mean access to confidential information, which is usually specifically mentioned in the privacy policy. Voting in users for bureaucrat should not typically result in access to private information.
A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:
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:: 2) Users who have access to such information generally are scrutinized much more than users who do not. Suppressors need to deal with PII like real names, home addresses, and anything else like that. It is not the role of a bureaucrat to handle stuff like that.
 
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:: 3) Scratch Wiki has a tendency to treat user groups like a hierarchy (i.e. Bureaucrat is better than sysop, which is better than Experienced Wikian). I think that these three new user groups help remove this bad aura.
[[File:That's a lot of welcomes.PNG]]
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:: 4) Bureaucrat does not have an age requirement, but I do not want minors to have access to the information that CheckUsers and Suppressors do.
 
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:: There are a number of other reasons as well that they should not be merged, but this is just off the top of my head. Comments about Interface admin can be directed to a couple threads above this, which I assume Jammum has seen. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 05:37, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?
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::: For your last statement, literally 99% of users ''are'' under the age of 18. I'm a minor, and I feel extremely offended by this comment. It just enforces a stereotype that everyone under the age of 13 is dumb. Also, it wouldn't be a fair opportunity for everyone. I know that admins are encouraged to have access to the discord server, but it is not mandatory.
 
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::: For your 2nd statement, there isn't much personal info on my (and everyone else's) account. As long as you trust (or the majority trusts) the user, you'll be fine. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 12:38, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.
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::::I don't see anything about 'all people under 13 are dumb' in the post above yours. Also there is definently personal info in our accounts - I wouldn't really want people to be able to see my email address.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:56, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 
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:::::<s>Support to @Dominic305. There's also a legal side; we must ensure that someone is not using emails for email hacking or phishing - that's why we must give these roles to people that older 13 (for juridical capacity) and trusted users by the community. This doesn't mean that people under 13 is dumb, but that's risky - give a user that does not have juridical capacity may make unwanted legal consequences.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 16:13, 30 September 2020 (UTC)</s>
I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::::: After reading these, I have a proposal. There should be 2 bureaucrat ranks. One for users under the age of 13, and one for users over the age of 13. If a user is elected or appointed bureaucrat, and they happen to be underage, they would get a similar rank to normal bureaucrat but the permissions regarding the viewing and changing of personal information would be removed. This wouldn't be publicised unless the user does it themselves. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 18:09, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 
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:I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea {{E|:)}} I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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Imho nobody needs to have those perms. And just because somebody is over 13, they're automatically not going to do anything malicious with the emails? I signed up with my personal email, and I don't want anybody to know my name (I prefer anonymity). Besides, how would you know they are 13? I can easily say I'm 22, although that's a blatant lie. How would allowing any user group to view emails benefit the wiki? {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 20:44, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
 
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: First of all, the age in question would be 18 and not 13 as 13-year-olds are still minors and are not legally able to sign non-disclosure agreements (although they are able to be bound by privacy policies). Also, I think that simply having two groups based on age only (halfway) solves one of the issues at hand and does not solve any of the others. For example, one could be granted CheckUser/Supressor and not bureaucrat; or bureaucrat and not CheckUser/Suppressor. The two groups should not be merged into bureaucrat, and I think that having seperate groups for users who are over or under 13 is simply problematic, discriminatory, and does not solve the issues at all. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 20:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
::I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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: To VFDan, while asking for a users' birthday is sufficient for COPPA compliance, for access to confidential information, proof of legal identification is usually required, and lying about the age would immediately be found out. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 20:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
:::As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can {{e|:D}}? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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:: If the age would be 18, then let's just get rid of literally every single admin or EW! I have a hunch that almost every EW/Admin is under 18, leaving the very few 18+ admins to do all the work. Many adults have jobs to do, and that explains their activity. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 21:16, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
::::While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::I agree that no one should need to see user emails.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 14:42, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
:::::[[User talk:StampDanFan|It has happened again...]]{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::Support (for merging groups). We don't need more groups, and most of the bureaucrats can view any content stored in a database. Also we don't have a way to confirm their age.
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::::It's also important to see what is "confidential" - I am not sure if we ever used "suppress". We always used normal revision delete, and I am not sure if there is any information that should be hidden from admins. (note: EWs can't view deleted revisions) There are variety of things removed from a page - mostly email and social media/chat website links, and "hiding vandalism". Email or chat website links, IMO, aren't confidential enough to require suppression. Only certain PIIs like home addresses, phone numbers or social security numbers would need suppression, and I personally have never seen someone putting their home address on this wiki. Hiding vandalism is just to prevent name-and-shame by the viewers of the Wiki. If you think they should be oversighted, then we should fire admins that do bad things instead.
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::::There could be some legal reasons to use oversighting but I honestly don't think that'll happen. As far as I know, there is no law that enforces us to remove links to social media.
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::::While IP address could be considered confidential, again, I don't think there is a reason to have separate group.
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::::Naleksuh mentioned that current system is like a hierarchy - and that is true. However, this is supposed to happen. Bureaucrats have more privileges than admins because they are responsible for maintaing all Scratch Wikis. They are like stewards in Wikimedia wikis. Administrators have basic privileges for managing one wiki, and EWs help admins, easier to obtain (than admins) but with less privileges.
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::::I probably should also mention one more thing - currently, there is only one active bureaucrat. If we have groups for CheckUser and suppression, it is kinda obvious that there will be less CheckUsers than bureaucrats, especially with an age requirement. However, both CUs and suppressors are essential (if we actually use them, which we never did for suppressors) when fighting vandalism.
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::::I understand that we are not Wikipedia - but given that the whole idea of suppressor and checkuser groups came from Wikimedia wikis, I think we shouldn't forget this fact: Stewards can use both CheckUser and Oversight. Stewards are people who assign groups, and help people cross-wiki. There is one existing group that basically does the same job, on Scratch Wikis, which is bureaucrat. Bureaucrats (with some exceptions, if any) have access to all Scratch Wikis, as bureaucrats, and can modify the database and the files at will, and have full control over Scratch Wikis.
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::::This discussion could be bumped when we introduce actual per-wiki bureaucrats. However, we don't have them yet, so for now there is no use for separate user groups.
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::::Also one note: who is minor and who isn't, totally depends on the country. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 08:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Apple, no one cares about age. Ken has been a bureaucrat since he was 14. Me, an EW since 14. All of us started being an EW as minors, and some bureaucrats and administrators. Suppression is hiding edit summaries. Email and chat are very confidential and should be removed. Not all bureaucrats are on all wikis. <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/infrastructure/sig}} 11:08, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
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::::::: No, giving minors access to legally confidential information contains legal problems to no end. The "we don't have a way to confirm their age" further confirms a lack of understanding. As Banana said, the information here is not simply hiding vandalism or certain edit summaries and may not under any circumstances be made available to non-functionaries. Merge {{not done}} <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 18:05, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
 
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maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different?? <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
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:I'm not sure what you mean by "legally confidential information". There are some information that are definitely confidential - like social security number, but I've never seen them posted on the wiki. PIIs are probably included in that category, but I don't think it's a common problem. Emails and IP addresses may be considered as PII. Note that links to social media, common reason of per-revision deletion, are mostly banned for moderation reasons; There is little to no reason to use oversight for those.
:Can't we make a User_talk:ACCEPTEDUSER/Welcomes page?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 20:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
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:Of those confidential information, which are legally confidential, and which cause legal problems when accessed by minors? I do not know details on German laws, but if I remember correctly, GDPR did not enforce such restrictions (or am i wrong?)
::That doesn't actually cause a ping tho...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
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:This is a technical fact that I am sure it's correct: "suppression" and "oversight" have the same meaning. Suppression includes suppressing revision, edit summary, log, etc.
:::We could make it ping though if there is someone willing to mess with the code...{{User:Smileycreations15/sig}} 11:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
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:To be honest, I don't think we are legally required to remove "confidential information" - without requests from them. Wiki contents are intended to be public, so submitting contents would mean agreeing to make them public. There may be some legal cases where this doesn't apply, but I'm sure we (most of the time) remove confidential information to reduce harm (to them) caused by making them public, and is not because of legal obligations.
::::I was just scrolling through the CP, and this caught my eye. Great idea, I definitely think this needs to be considered. I understand that people are just trying to be kind by sending the welcome messages, but it would almost be like a horror film for the person who owns the account. I think 4-5 welcome templates are enough, but I think there needs to be a break between even those. Getting 4-5 welcomes in a couple of seconds is also not the best of ideas.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 17:55, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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:We probably can restrict access to raw IP address because I don't think we ever used them - we just need to confirm that two accounts are owned by the same IP.
:::::We should ask new users for their opinion on this right after they get the welcomes. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 00:06, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
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:Also, remember that [[metawikipedia:Access to nonpublic personal data policy/Underage exemptions|even Wikimedia has exemptions to age requirement!]] {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:50, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
::::::I think 4-5 is a good limit. I personally liked getting welcomes, but I only got 3 of them. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 14:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
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::I don't really see a need for somebody knowing my email. There is absolutely no reason to know any PIIs besides the IP address. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 13:43, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
:::::::I'm a fairly new user, and I got 4 welcomes.  It seemed fine for me, so I agree that 4-5 sounds like a good limit. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 01:23, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
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:::Email is not exposed to CUs/Suppressors, unless you write it on the wiki pages, which is probably your fault. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 00:52, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
{{outdent|7}}How about one or two users post a template, or we just use the automatic one at the top, and then people below can put encouraging words (not large templates) followed by a sig? This would not be too much for the user, but still shows lots of people are there to support them!{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:: Maybe we can create a welcome template, and a bot automatically adds it for every new user. Any user edit it (just like an article). Maybe there could be in it for all the users that contributed.
 
:: {{#ifeq:|nobr|<br/>|}}[[File:VFDan.png|20px|link=User:VFDan]]{{nbsp}}{{link style|User:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=VFDan}}{{nbsp}}<span style="border: 2px solid cyan; border-radius:1px 0 0 10px">{{nbsp}}{{link style|User talk:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Talk}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;">{{nbsp}}{{link style|Special:Contributions/VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Contribs}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;border-radius:0px 10px 1px 0px">{{nbsp}}<span class="plainlinks">{{User:12944qwerty/CPL|link=https://scratch.mit.edu/users/VFDan|text=On Scratch&nbsp;|color:orange;font-weight:bold}}</span></span>  19:21, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:::[[S:GOODSIG|Please fix your signature!]]
 
:::No, the point of each user having their own welcome template is for them to be specific to the user welcoming - a different message for each one. If they just wanted to add their name to a stock welcome they could reply to the {{t|welcome}} message added by default. However, 10 users posting personalized welcomes is a lot of different welcomes to read - which is why it needs limiting.
 
:::Seems like 4-5 is the limit we've agreed on; for the sake of looseness, '''the limit is now 5 welcome messages at most on any new user's talk page''' (not including the {{t|welcome}} message; does not apply to users created before this decision).
 
:::@Nambaseking01: Limiting the rate of welcomes is a separate topic that should be proposed separately.
 
:::This topic is now {{done|[[S:USERSPACE#User talk pages|Done]]}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Block Problems ==
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== Minor Grammatical Issue in Footer ==
{{Not done|Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken}}<br />
 
Today I started to finish up the script for [[How to Evaluate an Expression]], and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else {{-}} it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in ''Show preview'' mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/292813/ this forum topic]? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::You can use [https://scratchblocks.github.io this page].<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::::@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...
 
::::@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Wait, is it possible to convert forum scratchblocks to wiki scratchblocks???? {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 03:20, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::    <code><nowiki><scratchblocks>define scratch</scratchblocks></nowiki></code>
 
It will give:
 
<scratchblocks>define scratch</scratchblocks>
 
See also: [[Block Plugin]]<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 20:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== New Featured Images ==
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It says "Privacy policy" instead of Privacy Policy. Should not this be fixed? <scratchsig>R4356th</scratchsig> 17:00, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
{{done}}
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:It's same though and I think that it should not be capitalized because of it's a general title (bundled with MediaWiki).{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}}
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::It's capitalized on Scratch though <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:04, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::Should we copy everything on Scratch's footer to here? There are a lot of links there that aren't here.... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:05, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
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:::: This is not a "grammatical issue" or something that must be "fixed"-- capitalization like that is common, but Scratch Wiki has the idea of Capitalizing Everything Ever. For example, the default capitalization for [[Special:RecentChanges]] is <code>Recent chamges</code>, but was changed on Scratch Wiki to <code>Recent changes</code>. As for copying over the Scratch footer, a rewrite of ScratchWikiSkin into ScratchWikiSkin3 was proposed on Discord, but I do not know if that is happening. Currently, the skin uses various MediaWiki messages, usually introducing new ones, but sometimes using existing ones, which I would guess Privacy policy is one of those cases. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 20:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  
Hey! Soon, on August 12th, it'll have been a month since we updated the Featured Images yet. This time, I don't want to do them late like I have in the past, so does anyone have any suggestions? {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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== November Featured Images ==
:A photo of somewhere tropical. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 
::I don't understand - is this a joke (if it isn't, I'm not trying to offend; simply trying to understand)? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
 
:::It is. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
 
:::: The _:))_ emoji. Looks nice and funny.<scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 01:23, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::You mean literally feature the {{e|:)}} picture? I guess that works LOL
 
:::::I'd suggest [[:File:Statistic Rollover Info.png]] because it looks cool and has a random interesting piece of info :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:42, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::It's been August 12th, does that mean this discussion is now for the next featured image change? Or can this be archived?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 18:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Giving Credit on the Wiki ==
 
  
 
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I think that we should make a template for credit like this: {{User:Scratch-Coding/credit|Scratch-Coding |template}}. It would be helpful. We could use the remix button image instead of the one I have. {{User:Scratch-Coding/Signature}} 00:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:When and where will it be used? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 01:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::What would you use this for, and why? The wiki is a collaboration and we all own a part of it. No one owns a article unless they created it on there userspace where they can so whatever they want with it.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 01:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Templates are mainly created for mainspace Wiki articles {{-}} when and why would this be needed? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::::It would be used on userspaces, giving credit for a image, and giving credit for an example. <scratchsig>Scratch-Coding</scratchsig> 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::You can use it on your userspace but I don't think it's necessary. Btw: What did you do to your signature? It's broken.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::This wouldn't be that beneficial to the Wiki, especially if it is mostly used on userspace. I still disagree. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent | 6}} Who would use it? <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:Yeah, I don't think this is necessary. If you need to credit someone you don't need a template. Furthermore, you wouldn't need to credit anyone on mainspace, this is collaborative and we don't get/need credit for what we write here.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::Giving credit is not needed in mainspace and can be done manually:<br>
 
[[File:remix notice 3.0.png|100px]] Credit to [[User:Scratch-Coding|Scratch-Coding]] for this template.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:41, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Let's go ahead and consider this {{done}}.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 17:38, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Tinkercad Codeblocks ==
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I just updated the [[S:FI|featured images]] with suggestions from the CP. Does anyone have any ideas for the next set of featured images (which will come at the end of October or the beginning of November)? If so, please post them here. Thanks! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:50, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
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: How about [[File:Report.PNG]]? <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 11:50, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
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::I suggest [[:File:Change profile pic.png]]. {{e|:)}}
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::<small>@garnetluvcookie That image doesn't exist, do you mean [[:File:Report Screen.PNG]]?</small> <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 22:23, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::<small> yes, I do, I just have the worst short term memory ever :P</small><br/>{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 23:14, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
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::::I suggest [[:File:Scratch Team.jpg]] or [[:File:Join Flow 7.png]]. {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 12:45, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Is there an archive where all the previous images are listed ? {{unsigned|Scratcheur-2020Send}} 10:57, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Heh, sorry it took so long for me to update them. I added [[:File:Report Screen.PNG]], [[:File:Change profile pic.png]], and [[:File:Scratch Team.jpg]]. If you think anything should be changed (like one of the descriptions), please let me know. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:39, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}Scratcheur-2020Send, check out [[:Category:Featured Articles/Images]] (scroll down to "Media in category 'Featured Articles/Images'"). {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:41, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
  
Tinkercad has a new feature called Codeblocks that looks similar to Scratch. It has hat blocks and variables. I think this could have a page on this wiki.
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== A proposal for talk page formatting ==
<scratchsig>LiamSapp123</scratchsig> 19:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
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{{not done}}<br>
:Does it have a specific connection to Scratch in particular though? We don't have a page on Blockly, even though it's a similar concept (and even though 3.0 has Blockly code in it).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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So when we edit on talk pages, we seem to just keep indenting over and over, without any logic. I was thinking we could instead indent to show who we are replying to, sort of like [[Special:PermanentLink/263442|this example]]. It would more clearly show who each person is talking to and clear up confusion. New posts would still go below old posts, but instead under what you're replying to. I'm pretty bad at explaining so you can ask for any clarification. What are your thoughts?{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 01:28, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
::Maybe we should have one about Blockly <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:31, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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:An idea similar to (or the same as) this idea [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 94#A suggestion/question about indentation in replies|has been suggested before]], back in 2017 (wow, time flies!). I just thought I'd point that out so you could read the discussion. Also, a system where you indent to show who you're replying to is already used in some discussions by several users (see [[#RfC about the usage of fixed with in ScratchWikiSkin2]] for an example); but it isn't the most used system, I suppose. {{e|:)}}
:::I agree that we should make one on Blockly. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 01:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
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:<small>Also, this is nitpicking at semantics, but I would disagree with your statement that our current most popular system is "without any logic"; the very fact that users following the convention must indent one <code>:</code> more than the previous post gives it logic. However, again, this is nitpicking. {{e|;)}}</small><br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:57, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
::::{{not done|Further discussion needed}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:11, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
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::It seems that no one ever actually came to a decision, so maybe I'll invite some people to this discussion?{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 14:10, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::Hmm... I agree that there is no logical order in which we indent currently, but the alternative proposal you're suggesting also will get very complicated for longer topics. You wouldn't know who you're replying to. (This is just in my head, I'm not sure if this will work or not, my imagination says it's not going to work but I can't be so sure :D ) <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 17:40, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
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::::We could still use things like "@kaj: Why did you hack my friend?" and stuff to prevent confusion.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 18:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::::We could just do a template like Wikipedia's "talk page" template. Anyway, nobody cannot force someone for something, so the best thing is explanation.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:39, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::::IMO this is more confusing than the current system; we should just keep indenting the way we do now. Using stuff like "@kaj: please don't hack me I didn't do anything wrong" is more clear IMO. And often you might not be replying to anyone in particular, so where do you put it then? {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 14:32, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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::::::I'm not saying we completely ditch @ing people. As for not replying in particular, that would be indent level 0.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:36, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|6}}This seems more confusing for me in long topics, even with using @mention in every message. For short topics, this wouldn't be too confusing, but overall, I disagree with this idea.
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These are just my thoughts though; maybe we could make this technique less complex for long topics? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 22:18, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
  
== What happened to link previews? ==
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== LEGO BOOST Page ==
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We have pages about the Raspberry PI system, the LEGO WeDo Construction Set system, but I'm noticing we don't have one about LEGO BOOST. I have a very less knowledge about this stuff (as always), so could somebody please take the effort to create a page containing all the information? Thanks.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 17:10, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
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:Actually, we already have one at [[LEGO BOOST Extension]], unless you mean something else. {{e|:)}} {{User:Groko13/Signature}} 20:49, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
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:: No {{-}} do you notice the red link labelled "LEGO BOOST"? Unless I'm misinterpreting it, there should be page related to what that is and how it's related to the extension. For example, the Raspberry Pi has a page about it's Scratch extension but also about it's hardware and how it's relevant to Scratch.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 12:27, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
  
{{done}} They don't seem to be showing up for me at all anymore. Anybody else?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 02:44, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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== Capitalization issue with 3.0 blocks ==
:Same here. Did someone turn it off? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 
::Also not getting previews (or at least when I tried it on [[Image Hosting]], linked above). I'll ping jvvg (since he was the one who enabled them).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Any reply from jvvg yet?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 01:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Have you found any information on this yet, anybody?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 23:22, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::It works again for me now! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 21:49, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::Works for me too!{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 23:09, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}{{cool|Same}} I guess this is {{done}} now, then? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 00:55, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:Yes, it has begun working for me again :) Updated.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 04:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
==Scratch program image==
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Hey folks, I've been working on a project to fix and improve the LEGO BOOST extension for a while now and it's complete, but while I was doing it I noticed an issue with the 3.0 blocks on the Wiki: all of the lowercase "i"s kept turning into a capital "i" and in the code it was still lowercase. I don't know if this is a known issue, but it could be misleading. <scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 12:25, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
{{not done}} <br />
 
The image showing the scratch program should be 3.0, not 2.0, right?
 
<scratchsig> Mohie </scratchsig>
 
:Not necessarily, we use the 2.0 version for historical references. So, we should have to images for this. One for 3.0, and one for 2.0.
 
:Also, could you link to what you're talking about, please? It would be so much easier for someone to know what you were talking about easily.{{unsigned|12944qwerty}}
 
::He meant the picture of the Scratch program shown in [[Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents]] needs to be updated to 3.0. Could an admin do this? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 23:25, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Okay... So is there going to be another section for 3.0, or is 2.0 going to be merged with 3.0?
 
:::And also, TenType is correct. I do mean the SW TOC.
 
<scratchsig>Mohie</scratchsig> 16:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Scratch Wiki Adventure ==
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== Missing Discussions ==
{{not done}}
 
  
On Wikipedia, there is an option for new Wikians to complete the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Adventure Wikipedia Adventure].  This teaches them skills and covers all the basics of using Wikipedia.  I think it'd be a good idea to create a Scratch Wiki Adventure of our own to teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki.  This would include editing tips, rules, etiquette, etc.  I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on this idea and/or if anyone would like to work with me on creating this.<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 17:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, everyone! After creating the [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 109|109{{th}} Community Portal archive]], I moved quite a few discussions to [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done]]. One upside of this is to prevent premature archiving of the CP. If you're wondering where a discussion went, it was probably either archived or moved to Not Done. Please also consider contributing to some of the discussions in Not Done! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
:<b>+1</b> {{e|:D}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::I hope you're prepared to put in the amount of work involved, because The Wikipedia Adventure is really involved (I've [[wikipedia:User:Kenny2wiki|done it]] once before) and a lot of stuff has to be created for it to work. I like the idea, but I don't know if anyone here has the follow-through to actually focus on a project like this that could take a week or more to make.
 
::If you think you can commit yourself (and furthermore get others to commit themselves) you can make a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]] of it. Good luck!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Woohoo; we got bureaucratic approval!  I think we can do it (maybe not ''as'' well as the Wikipedia Adventure, but still good).  I'll start thinkin' up some basic ideas to start us off.  If anyone is interested in working with me on this, please let me know on my [[User talk:54329|talk page]]. {{e|:)}}<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 05:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::: Isn’t this going to be a duplicate of the [[Help:Welcome|welcome tutorial]]? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:41, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::No, the Wikipedia Adventure is really involved and more interactive. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 06:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::Adding on, when I did it, it felt a lot more like a game/activity than a guidebook.  It allows the user to actually collaborate, talk to people and create/edit a page all in a sandbox setting.  It helped me learn the basics of Wikipedia far more than a guide could (probably because I was really interested in it and getting those shiny badges was nice).<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 06:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
{{Scratch Wiki:Scratch Wiki Adventure/project}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:I can help some tech stuff maybe? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 17:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::I can help too! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::I want to help too, so should I add myself or should 54329 do it as he's the owner? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::::In reply to both of you: Thanks for offering to help out!  I'll add both of your names to the list. For future people that wish to help: feel free to just add your name under the "Assigned" section. <scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 05:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::I just took a quick glance at the Wikipedia Adventure, and that looks cool! I created a very different page a while ago with the same goal of educating New Wikians using a sort of quest system - you can check it out at [[User:Bigpuppy/Quests]]. {{e|:)}} It seems like this would be very different than that, though. {{cool|Good idea}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|5}}That's super cool that you made a quests page.  This will be semi-similar.  Feel free to stop by if you have any ideas for it. <small>''wink wink''</small><scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 08:03, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Moving Plural page titles to singular ==
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== Reminder ==
{{ done}}
 
On the wiki, there are many page titles like "Blocks" and "Numbers". This makes it confusing to users and editors, as well as links. "<nowiki>[[Block]]s</nowiki> makes a link to singular that appears plural, but there is no equivalent for singular-appearing plural-leading links.
 
  
This is a big change in the Wiki, so further discussion will be needed to manage the moves.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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I’d like to remind y’all (no, I’m not from Kentucky or near there) that you shouldn’t assume others gender, even from their mediawiki preferences. For example, I have my gender set as “female” in my settings, though I don’t use female pronouns. It’s always best to ask someone for their pronouns, or just use the neutral pronoun “they”. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 03:36, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
:Could we start a Scratch Wiki Project? I  definitely think we should keep the pages consistently singular. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 02:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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:I definitely agree that you shouldn't assume others' pronouns; however, I'm not sure how referring to someone based on their MediaWiki preferences is doing that. The MediaWiki preferences actually don't use the words "male," "female," etc.; they [http://u.cubeupload.com/bigpuppy/PronounsMediaWiki.png explicitly ask about your pronouns]. So, if someone has that preference set as "she," for instance, then I don't think that referring to them as "she" is "assuming their gender." Of course, if someone prefers to be called something other than what is listed on that page, then users should use what they prefer instead, but then they probably wouldn't change the preference from the default (as you called it, "neutral") option ("they"). Could you please clarify why you think that referring to someone based on the pronouns they have said they prefer to be described as is "assuming their gender"? Thank you. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
:: Singular page titles would seem strange, since the plural describes a general thing, there is not only one. Also, I fixed a spelling mistake. {{unsigned|Congyingzhou}}
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:: I’m pretty sure that that changed during the update, and plus the mw magic word is gender, so misconceptions can be made. Also, I’d like to also not that someone’s gender identity doesn’t always have to line up with their pronouns (for example, I identify as a cis female and present myself irl as feminine, but I prefer gender neutral pronouns on the internet because my internet “persona” is way more different than I act in real life.) <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 04:06, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
:::Many page titles cannot be made into plural form. Having both plural and singular forms is confusing and creates other problems. Singular page titles are also easier to work with, as I said in my first post. Also, remember to not change other users' posts without permission.
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:: I’d also like to note as a “straight” and “cis” ally, though this isn’t used anymore, he/she or she/he is not an OK substitute for the perfectly fine gender neutral pronoun “they”. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 04:11, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
:::Should I put {{t|move}} on the plural pages?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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:::* ''"I’m pretty sure that that changed during the update, ..."''
::::I'll put the template on as soon as possible (on the bottom){{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 03:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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:::** Are you ''100%'' sure about that? We shouldn't assume whether it did or not. Anyhow, we can get confirmation on this.
:::::Next time, don't add {{t|move}} to all of them; either move them all right away or wait. It makes a bunch of edits in Recent Changes which will all need to be undone when the final decision is decided. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:02, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
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:::* ''"... and plus the mw magic word is gender, so misconceptions can be made."''
::::::So should we move them or not, and how will we do it? We will also need to fix many links and redirects.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
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:::** Misconceptions can be made about anything. You just need to clear them up so they don't get made again. The purpose of that preference is so that the software knows how to correctly refer to you, so saying that you shouldn't use it as a guide to know how to refer to users goes against the point of it.
:::::::Or should we just mark the pages and get a bot to move the, fix all the redirects and links, and change any other issues?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}}
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:::* ''"Also, I’d like to also not that someone’s gender identity doesn’t always have to line up with their pronouns (for example, I identify as a cis female and present myself irl as feminine, but I prefer gender neutral pronouns on the internet because my internet “persona” is way more different than I act in real life.)"''
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:::** This is irrelevant here. As I said, the purpose of that preference is so that the software knows how to correctly refer to you, and hence it explicitly asks about your pronouns. If someone represents that preference as anything else, they are misrepresenting the preference.
So should we move any of this pages? It's been over 2 months now. {{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 21:31, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::* ''"I’d also like to note as a 'straight' and 'cis' ally, though this isn’t used anymore, he/she or she/he is not an OK substitute for the perfectly fine gender neutral pronoun 'they'."''
:I guess it depends on context  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 21:26, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::** I agree, but that's a different issue; why are you bringing it up here?
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:::My points are not meant to sound harsh (I'm sorry if they do), but I'm just trying to make sure that the purpose of that preference is being addressed. Again, I agree that you shouldn't assume others' pronouns, but I disagree that using this preference to refer to someone is doing so. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 04:22, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::: I get your points, but as someone who has many queer friends who feel strongly about this and so do I, (pardon me if I sound odd or rude, I’m a bit sleepy) and I just wanted to bring it up as a friendly reminder because it’s never OK to assume one’s gender, and in modern times we need to learn that. My opinions may be a bit biased, but you get the point. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 04:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Now you're changing the topic of what we're discussing. We're not discussing whether it's okay to assume users' genders (or assume users' pronouns); I think we both agree that it's never okay to do that. What we're discussing is whether using someone's pronoun preferences to refer to them is assuming their pronouns; and I don't think that referring to someone as "he" (for example) if they have selected that they prefer to be referred to as "he" is doing that. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 04:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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::::: I get it now. Since it’s almost 1 AM where I am and I literally don’t have the mental energy to go in depth about anything, I’m going to call this done. if you have other concerns, feel free to contact me on my talk page sine I’ll still have this on until I fall asleep involuntarily. (Wikipedia editor moment)<br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 04:51, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Alright, let's make it official: {{done}}. Have a good rest of your night. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 04:55, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
  
== 2.0 Image Updating ==
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== "Becoming a Scratcher" section ==
  
A lot of images here need updating to 3.0. For example, the editor in the TOC, many Scratch Cats, etc. When will this be done? <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 10:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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I'm going to make a section on either [[Scratcher]] or [[New Scratcher]] about how you become a Scratcher (with images for each slide of the process). Which article should I do it on?{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 11:29, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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:I would say on [[Scratcher]] but make a section in [[New Scratcher]] summarizing the how-to.  <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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::So something like [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=User:Dominic305/Sandbox-alt&oldid=263783 this]?{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::Yes, like that...
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:::<small>You don't have to link a difference externally, you can just do [[Special:Diff/273783]]...</small> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:23, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
  
:I've asked an admin to update the TOC image. Not sure about the other ones. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 16:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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== What should I do if... ==
::There's not a set time when this will be done. It will be done gradually. Any time you see an image that needs updated, feel free to update it (but be sure to compress, crop, etc. the file).{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 01:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
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{{done}}<br>
  
== Thankful Thursday! January 30{{th}}, 2020 ==
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What should I do if someone posts a message on my talk page just in the middle of nowhere with no subject or anything, just a message? (It still has a sig){{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 20:11, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 025}}
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:You can create a title for it and you can say "Message from ...".{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:16, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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::Ok, thanks!{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 20:22, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::I would say that you could just read the text, and make a subject based on that. The header is used for others to know what the basis of the conversation would be about. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 20:37, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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::::@12944qwerty: if it's not included a clear subject, my suggestion may be the preferred; I think.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:47, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Agreed I guess. A message, if not clear, could just say "Message from ..." but I doubt that would happen often... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:30, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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== Making search boxes ==
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{{done}}<br />
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Is there a way to make search boxes in the Scratch Wiki, like the one on top of the CP, except with the "Try exact match" button and the line break before the buttons? {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 21:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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:The Try Exact Match button is part of the input box. After playing around with the <code><nowiki><inputbox></nowiki></code> tag, I found that the type of <code>type=search2</code> will give the Exact match button. <code>type=search</code> gives both buttons. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:42, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
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::Alright, thanks. {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 14:22, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
  
The next TT is February 27{{th}}. See you then!
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== Boi wut ==
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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{{done}}<br>
:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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[https://ibb.co/GkrNHnm]<br>There's a glitch that allows Scratchers to see dustbin topics, using 'Report Post'. Would it be notable enough if others can do it to include in the Dustbin forum topic article? Try it yourself with [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/misc/?action=report&post_id=4488556 this link].{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 11:28, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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:But you don't see the topic..... <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:31, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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::True, though you can see the title. <scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 13:47, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::Does the title really matter though? I would think that the discussion would be more important. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 14:19, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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::::I don't know, it probably wouldn't be any good. I kinda just wanted to show everyone because I thought it was interesting, without people saying it's off-topic...{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 14:42, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::::I clicked the link again and now it says 'Spam Dustbin'. I do not see any mentions of 'Spam Dustbin', I only see 'Dustbin'. Does anyone have more information on this?{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 17:02, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
  
== Why won’t this table work? ==
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== Error while viewing GIF ==
{{not done}}
 
  
Link: [[User:Waffle_Iron_Studios/ScratchNet shop page]]<scratchsig>Waffle_Iron_Studios</scratchsig> 21:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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Every time I try to load a thumbnail of the file [[:File:Rickroll.gif]], it displays this error:<br/>
: I think it's because the table does not have any line-breaks. See [[Help:Tables|this]]. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
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"Error creating thumbnail: convert: memory allocation failed `/tmp/transform_177876bbf04e.gif' @ error/quantize.c/QuantizeImage/2653. convert: memory allocation failed `/tmp/transform_177876bbf04e.gif' @ error/gif.c/WriteGIFImage/1693. Error code: 1"
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<br/>Can someone help me? Thanks. {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 17:32, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
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:Hmm, I'm getting this error for only the thumbnails. The main gif at the top of the screen works perfectly fine for me <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 16:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
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::Yewh, when I uploaded the image the wiki was running slow; also it's a big file so that's most likely a big part of the cause.<br><small><small>You just got RickRolled</small></small>{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 01:57, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
  
== Thankful Thursday! February 27{{th}}, 2020 ==
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== Is this a bug or what ==
{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 026}}
 
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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In the www version ([https://www.en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Scratch_Wiki_Home this link]), it appears that you are signed out, but remove the www, you're signed in? Is this a bug, glitch, or something I missed because I'm now on the main site? <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 19:54, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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:@garnetluvcookie: It's probably proposed as a redirect to the main subdomain (en.scratch-wiki.info) but however; since MediaWiki handles for only a subdomain, it's kinda unnecessary right now. The all links from www subdomain will be redirected to the main subdomain. It's not a bug nor a glitch neither a missed thing. You can also see the same thing on www.scratch.mit.edu . The fact is www subdomains are unused in most of the websites in the Internet, but the website bureaucrats redirects them to main domain/subdomain for preventing confusion.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:07, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
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::That's because the cookies are only saved for the domain for which they are issued, and www.en.scratch-wiki.info and en.scratch-wiki.info are different domains. We would strongly encourage just using en.scratch-wiki.info (without the www) to avoid such issues.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 00:18, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
  
The next TT is March 26{{th}}. See you then!
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== Subject glitch ==
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== New Featured Images ==
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If you can see from [https://assets.scratch.mit.edu/get_image/.%2E/f79d37e181e48349faf440cf17df22b0.png this] image, if you hover over the "Subject" line when making a new section, a tooltip will appear about summaries, not subjects.
{{done}}
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<br/>Can someone fix this? Thanks {{E|:)}} {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 21:51, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
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:There is no problem here, the subject box is for writing a "summary" of your post.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 01:54, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
  
Does anyone have suggestions for new featured images after these ones have run their course? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:52, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
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== New ScratchSig is deployed! ==
:We should really have a better system for suggesting featured images... {{e|;)}} (see [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]])<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:49, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::I agree. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:32, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::What does everyone think about this one?
 
:::[[File:Animate a name tutorial.png|150px]]<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:12, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::+1, that image looks good. I'm quite partial to this one:
 
::::[[File:MakeItFlyTutorialTipsPage.PNG|200px]]
 
::::I also like the look of this image of the ST:
 
::::[[File:Scratch-team.jpg|300px]]
 
::::How does everyone feel about these?{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 21:53, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::<small>lol did you see my message to RC stalkers</small>
 
:::::I like those - I don't necessarily think we should have two "ST Tips" images though, so I think we should choose one more.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:42, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::How about this one?
 
::::::[[File:Sig Change.png|170px]]<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:34, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}<small>yes I did :P</small>
 
  
+1 to that image highlighting the signature. This should be useful to answer all the forum questions about signatures!
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A few weeks ago, Naleksuh suggested we should develop a new ScratchSig since the old one was woefully out of date and generally a kind of hacky extension (some of you may recall the XSS vulnerability discovered a while ago). Naleksuh and I have developed a newer version of the extension that is now deployed here. The only obvious difference should be that the image does not have a border on it anymore and that userpages/talk pages that do not exist appear as redlinks since those are now rendered as wikitext instead of raw HTML. This also does finally properly handle usernames with underscores, and you can enter the username either with spaces or underscores, depending on which you prefer, and the icon will display properly. Also, for users that do not exist, the icon simply will not display.
  
I think we'll go with the two images that you've suggested and the one of the ST. Can we get an admin to update this please? :){{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 22:07, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
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Examples representing the situations I mentioned above:
:{{done}}. Does it look okay?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:59, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
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:<scratchsig>jvvg test</scratchsig>
::Yep - looks great!{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 08:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
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:<scratchsig>jvvg_test</scratchsig>
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:<scratchsig>this user cannot exist %%</scratchsig>
  
== IWB Interwiki Check ==
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Additionally, there have been some behind the scenes changes. We took a much more defensive approach to the design of the extension to avoid any future XSS attacks or similar. We also added a much better caching system using the [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:Caching|MediaWiki object cache]]. For comparison, the older version was still using [[Scratch_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Archive_95#Community_Portal_must_get_faster|a kind of janky caching system added over two years ago that was intended to be temporary]].
  
Hello everyone. It's been awhile since IWB has scanned the wikis for interwikis to add, and now is probably a good time to do that!
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Please post a reply here if you notice any issues. And of course I need to ''actually'' sign my post even though this is a post about scratchsig.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:38, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
  
Below you'll find a list of proposed edits from the bot. It would be helpful if a few people could look at some proposed edits and double check them for errors:
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== Slight fix to jobs ==
  
[[User:InterwikiBot/Proposed_Edits]]
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I have fixed an issue with [[mediawikiwiki:Manual:Job queue|jobs]]. After the upgrade, we were not able to run jobs in the background, so we had to attach them to requests at random (i.e. each page load had some chance of having a job processed as part of handling the request). This caused somewhat of a slowdown and also meant that jobs didn't always run as quickly as would have been ideal. Now, jobs are run by a cron job that runs separately from any request. This should result in a slight performance improvement.
  
Several issues have already been discovered:
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That's all. Other than that, nothing should change.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:35, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
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:Haven't jobs been broken for a long time lol? {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 01:16, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
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::One specific job was broken for a long time, and that was fixed with the upgrade. Other jobs were working as expected. However, the ''ability to run jobs at all'' was broken by the upgrade (or at least the ability to run them via a cron job, so we had to attach them to requests again). However, this has all been fixed.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 01:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  
* Not properly handling empty interwikis, ex <nowiki>en:</nowiki>, see the ja homepage
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== Table of contents ==
* test -> tw
 
* The bot is proposing adding interwikis to other pages when they already have an interwiki for that language
 
* Help:Namespaces has a flat out wrong interwiki suggestion
 
  
This might take another round or two to remove perviously undiscovered bugs, but with the wikis growing more complex, it's important to get them now. Thank you <scratchsig>ErnieParke</scratchsig> 01:37, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
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Hey everyone. I've seen on some pages that they have a table of contents. How do I get that to appear?
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Sorry for the short section. <scratchsig>8bitjake</scratchsig> 15:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)8bitjake
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:They will automatically generate if the page has enough content.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:17, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
  
== Advertising article ==
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== Give the right of deletion of messages on their own talk pages to users  ==
  
We really need to overhaul [[Dexter_Industries_GoPiGo_For_Raspberry_Pi|this article]]. A lot of it is just advertising the product. For example, do we really need a "Buying" section? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 23:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
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For example, here is a good example of it in Wikipedia: [[wikipedia:Wikipedia:Talk_page_guidelines#User_talk_pages|here]]. I think that the system also may work fine on Scratch Wiki. Although this rules are against to deletion of talk pages, this might be good for users whose do not want to archive (though it's accessible from history). {{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 12:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
:[[Scratch Bit]] has also a buying section. But the entire page is just an ad. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 08:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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:I don't really think this is a good idea. For one, I wouldn't want to write up a message and then have a user just delete it because they feel like it. Also, the messages should be kept for reference purposes in the future. So I don't really like this idea.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 12:52, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
::I've moved the GoPiGo article to the creator's userspace (which has precedent - see the last topic on [[User talk:DexterInd]]) and removed the categories & advertisement notes.
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::But the messages are always accessible through history, because we're not allowing to the deletion of page.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 12:57, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
::Scratch Bit is an official Scratch product and must be documented. It stays.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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:::But it's far easier to go to a subpage than to dig through page history.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:07, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
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::::No, you can just filter from date and user contribs. That shouldn't be hard.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 15:11, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::::"shouldn't be hard" on a small talk page sure, but not on large ones. I hated  on wikipedia where I made a post on a talk page and someone else (not even the owner of the talk page!) removed saying it was incorrect. I added it back and then the actual owner of the talk page removed it. It was very blantant plagiarism (word for word copied). Stuff like this shouldn't happen. No support. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 19:51, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::::: When someone removes a message from their talk page, you may take that as an indication that they have read the message. Talk page owners ''should'' be allowed to remove messages from them. If your objection is simply to the message being removed and nothing else, that is not something that is problematic when either the message violates policy or it is being removed by the owner of the talk page. If the objection is that removing the message is an attempt at avoiding scruntiny, you are free to take any actions that you would otherwise if the message was not removed, such as reverting or raising complaints at [[/Admin Requests]]. Therefore, ''there is no reason to prevent removal of messages from the owner<nowiki>'</nowiki>s talk page''. While waiting until time has passed then archiving them may be preferred and is done on public venues such as this page, there is no need to ''require'' that. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 20:07, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  
== Sonic the Hedgehog ==
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== Re-RFC for [[Scratch_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal/Not_Done#Relax_S:NOSP_even_more|S:NOSP]] ==
  
Right now the wiki is saturated with Sonic the Hedgehog stuff, specially the AF pages. Lots of example of stuff are Sonic stuff. The entire wiki feels like an indirect Sonic ad. We should change a lot of this examples. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 11:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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I think that we must edit restrictions about mods and user generated content. For example: we shouldn't create an another namespace for user-generated content, the users are already creating them on their subpages. And it must be possible to delete old and not notable mod pages.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 07:44, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
:Other than April Fools pages, could you give a few examples? <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 13:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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: Yes, I think that the date the page is created is irrelevant. Either the subject is notable, or it is not. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 02:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
::Just wiki search Sonic or Hedgehog. Also a lot of examples are by PrincessPandaLover and need to be changed int more generic stuff. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 14:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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== Updating all the blocks categorys footer to 3.0 mode ==
:::If I'm not mistaken, the Sonic stuff is limited to only AF pages. It's fine to gradually phase AF pages away from Sonic content while making other edits to the pages, but don't go mass editing out Sonic stuff. (Do note that I don't really see a problem with a Sonic theme in AF pages lol){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I agree. PrincessPandaLover has always been an excellent editor - they enjoyed to utilize the Sonic theme within their edits. {{smile}} {{done}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:10, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German ==
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Hey folks !
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This was the current pen extension footer :
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{{Pen Blocks}}
  
Currently, the links under the 'Legal' category do not are not mentioned that they are in German. I suggest that the footer mentions that the content under the Legal category are in German.  
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What the 3.0 version will be :
  
Without mentioning that, some people might be confused that they are in German, and not English. They also [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 105#Privacy Policy Article|cannot be translated into English]] without it being inaccurate. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 13:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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<div style="height:10px"></div>
:Why would they be German?<scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 16:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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{{navbox
::The Wiki servers are located in Germany and therefore follow the rules/regulations of Germany. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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| name    = Template:Pen Extension
:::Would you be amenable to using the [https://example.com external link marker] on them instead? Putting "(German)" on a footer link seems unorthodox...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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| title  = {{#ifeq: {{FULLPAGENAME}} | Pen Extension | Pen Extension | [[Pen Extension|<span style="color: #FFFFFF>This block was a </span><sb>Pen Extension Block::pen</sb>]]}}
::::The servers are German because they are owned by Martin Wollenweber, who lives in Germany.<scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 11:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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| tstyle  = background-color: #0FBD8C
::::: Maybe the Privacy Policy and the Disclaimers can be individually labelled that they are in German, or is that still 'unorthodox'? They could have 'in German' put in brackets after them. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 13:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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| state  = open
::::::I think it's fine the way it is, but it should get translated for other wikis so we know what happens to our data.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 17:35, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
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| group1  = <div style="text-align:center;">[[Erase All (block)|Erase All]] {{*}} [[Stamp (block)|Stamp]] {{*}} [[Pen Down (block)|Pen Down]] {{*}} [[Pen Up (block)|Pen Up]] {{*}} [[Set Pen Color to () (color input block)|Set Pen Color to ()]] {{*}} [[Change Pen () by () (block)|Change Pen () by ()]] {{*}} [[Set Pen () to () (block)|Set Pen () to ()]] {{*}} [[Change Pen Size by () (block)|Change Pen Size by ()]] {{*}} [[Set Pen Size to () (block)|Set Pen Size to ()]]<span style="float:right;font-weight:bold;">[[Blocks#List of Blocks|More blocks...]]</span></div>}}
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
Did you read the OP? They can't be translated accurately.
 
  
Having a notice at the top of the actual pages saying something similar to what I say on my userpage (the "many other wikis link here" thing), ideally translated into everything, would also be fine for me - I'm only opposed to changing the footer.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:03, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
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Please vote {{Done|Yes}} if you want this to be changed or {{Not done|No}} if you don't want below !
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I will take decision the 1st of november.
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<scratchsig>Scratcheur-2020Send</scratchsig>19:05, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
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: I am not voting, but I think EW+ (users that are Experienced Wikians or above) should have the final decision of this. Although, if your second design is chosen, the other block categories might need to be updated to reflect that design {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:48, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
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::Yes, i know about that... the pen footer was just a preview exemple {{e|:)}}<br /><small>''-unsigned comment by {{user|Scratcheur-2020Send}}''</small> 08:21, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
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::: " EW+ (users that are Experienced Wikians or above) should have the final decision of this" No, wikis resolve around consensus and it is not the role of Experienced Wikians to ignore that. Unless this was in reference to the "I will take decision the 1st of november." comment by OP, in which case I agree OP should not close the discussion as they are involved as the proposer.
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::: As for the content change in question, I think the old version is better both as there is no need to embed a block there and the "This block was a Pen Extension Block" sentence makes no sense in this context as it is the title for the navbox, not a part of the page body. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 02:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
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::::Basically what Naleksuh said, I vote no; it's way overbloated and takes away from the article. No support {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 19:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
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:::::{{Not done|No support}} for the reasons Naleksuh and VFDan stated. I also think the current footer works fine, and if anything should be updated there, it would just be changing the color to match the 3.0 blocks.{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 20:51, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  
== Updating Translators page ==
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== Why is there Language Tutorials? ==
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{{not done}}
  
The Scratch Team is no longer actively maintaining the translators page https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Translators
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So, there's [[Language Tutorials|this]], which has '''other''' programming language tutorials. This is kind of weird, especially in the '''''Scratch''''' Wiki. I know the "comparing other programming languages with Scratch" thing, but they [http://www.w3schools.com could just link to ''other'' programming language websites.]
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{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 00:27, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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:The Language Tutorials here also compare the code to Scratch code, making it a better starting point for people trying to transition.
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:<small><small>And I spent a solid amount of time on the C++ tutorials...</small></small>{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 14:41, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
  
I'd like to remove the Scratch Team only badge and allow folks from the translation community to update the page. Ideally there would be just one or two people per language that would keep things up to date for their language.
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Edit: added not done. <small>Also, add more tutorials?</small>
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{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 00:27, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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:The language tutorials was a project that we started a long time ago in order to increase the diversity of topics and more solidly provide people with suggestions for post-Scratch programming experiences. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 02:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
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::Some interesting stats on the language program. Since its conception in August 2018 we've pulled in approx. 2600 organic viewers for the page. When you look at the [https://u.cubeupload.com/MakeTheBrainHappy/ScreenShot20201028at.png graph] there are a few days when editors are working on it which increases total count (blue) vs. organic count (orange). Overall I think the program has a lot of potential to pull in a stable organic user page as it continues to expand. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 02:53, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
  
Would there be a different process for translators to join as a wiki editor? Are there different suggestions for having the translators page managed by the community?
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== Thankful Thursday! October 29{{th}}, 2020 ==
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 033}}
  
Thanks,
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
--Chris
 
{{unsigned|Chrisg}}
 
:Ok! I'll remove the banner at the top of the page for you. As for the translation community updating the page, we can not allow a different application processes for translators joining the wiki, though they are welcome to follow the current application processes and join the wiki that way. Also if they chose not to join they can always leave a post on the [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/294197/ Community Portal in the forums] with what should be updated and one of our editors will happily make the change. Please let us know if there is anything else we can do. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 16:47, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::How will you let all the translators know they can use the Scratch CP, or join the Wiki for editing the page?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 15:41, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::The translators have internal commmunication mechanisms including email blasts via transifex or messages in slack. I believe that Chris can easily relay the message to the translators if necessary. {{done}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:09, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Turbo Mode ==
 
 
 
{{done}}
 
  
[[Single Stepping|This article]] is very outdated, I believe we should create an article on Turbo Mode itself. <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 22:16, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:I agree - there is an article about [[Detecting Turbo Mode]], but there doesn't seem to be one about Turbo Mode, as [[Turbo Mode]] just redirects to that article. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:15, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::The problem seems to be fixed as there is now a template saying it is from a historical perspective. <scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 18:06, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::There is - however, I don't believe that is the problem here. I think the problem VFDan is referring to is that there is not an article about Turbo Mode.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:11, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::That is what I am referring to; I believe we should create an article about Scratch 3.0's Turbo Mode <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 00:19, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::You could create an article entitled "Turbo Mode (3.0)" and redirect Turbo Mode to that page instead of to the historical page. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::Created the [[Turbo Mode (3.0)|page]], and changed the [[Turbo Mode|redirect]]. However the page is in dire need of expansion. <br/>{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::::Marked as {{done}} however the article still needs expansion {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 19:07, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== How to make a quiz ==
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The next TT is, November 26{{th}}, see you then!
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
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:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
  
[big] What Is A Quiz? [/big]
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== Prevent categories from being added to userspace via AbuseFilter ==
{{unsigned|Cs1760724}}
 
:This isn’t the purpose of the Community Portal. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:17, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::I was actually just about to make a tutorial for that. What a coincidence~! {{smile}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::: [[Creating a Quiz]] already exists. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 16:51, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I've redirected [[How to Make a Quiz]] to [[Creating a Quiz]]. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 16:53, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Hi, please don't make topics on Scratch-related topics on the Scratch Wiki! For that, you can go to the Scratch "Help with Scripts" or "Questions about Scratch" forums: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/7/ https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/4/<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 15:39, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::@Jammum I meant on my website :) (it's been created). I'm going to call this topic {{done}} <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:07, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== WikiMonitor is hurting me ==
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It is possible for categories to be added to userspace pages, which are not supposed to have categories.
{{Done}}
 
  
Wow, so I just added the <nowiki>{{Done}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{-}}</nowiki> templates before the title of a message, and I signed my message under it. The only thing is, I accidentally forgot to add the done thing, so I had to edit my post and put that there. That message was from Wikibot. And ''then'', when I did that, I got another message from WikiMonitor saying that I didn't sign the post meanwhile I'd just added the templates to the title.  
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I think categories being added to userspace pages is quite common, and could be prevented by AbuseFilter.
  
Now, maybe this sounds very stupid, but I'm pretty sure I've done this before and WikiMonitor didn't come at me like that. What's going on?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 15:37, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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The only exception should be [[:Category:Pages in Need of Deletion]]. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 16:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
:The problem is that you forgot to sign the edit where you added {{t|done}}, which caused WikiMonitor to message you. I've left a tip on your talk page <small>(wow you already responded to it)</small> <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 16:20, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
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: (Bumping this) The category marking open userpages should also be an exception. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:08, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
:: I am a fast clicker when it comes to messages on the SW (I feel strangely lonely here XD)<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 09:43, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
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::The most common way categories are added to userpages is via templates, and unfortunately AbuseFilter does not actually parse the page/do transclusion drilldown. This would require maintaining a list of templates that have categories attached to them. This would ''also'' require an exception looking for the <code><nowiki>|cat=no</nowiki></code>, which would be a pain to implement properly.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 21:15, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
:::Well, I guess this is {{Done}} now.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 12:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Lancer PFP trend ==
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== Unused User Images Mass Deletion ==
 
 
In the last few days, a PFP trend about Lancer from Deltarune has been on many Scratcher's PFPs. They normally replace the eyes and mouth of their face to Lancer's eyes and mouth. @-BoyMcBoy- was the first popular Scratcher to do it, and he got the face from @MusicManJoe. Is this notable enough to add to the Scratch Trends page?
 
 
 
<scratchsig>PaddlerGames</scratchsig> 12:14, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:I have not seen this trend at all on Scratch.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 02:56, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::Neither have I{{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:07, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::I have not personally seen it myself, although I can confirm that it does appear to be a trend. I have seen and responded to almost a dozen or more forum topics asking about this trend.{{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 19:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Scratch Wiki YT Channel ==
 
Hi everyone! I wanted to put a little feeler out there to see who was interested in participating/creating content for a possible Scratch Wiki YT Channel. We would publish wiki-like content within YT's video format. We could then link to this content from within the Wiki. You could for example create a Scratch tutorial, run-through a certain block or feature, or discuss a recent community venture you participated in. If y'all are interested in seeing this idea come to fruition, please comment to express your interest and volunteer yourself for content creation. Thanks! <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 14:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:I think that this would compete with the [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Scratch Wiki Adventure|Scratch Wiki Adventure]] though... {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 15:04, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::I don't really see much benefit in it. Why would we need this? We already have Wiki Wednesday.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:47, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Well we would be able to produce varied content aside from Wiki Wednesday. People have also suggested tutorials for S:WELCOME to me privately. We'd be modeling it in some regards to Wikipedia's YT Channel. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 16:32, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I'm interested! But... What do you mean by "volunteer yourself for content creation"? Is there a specific page to apply? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}}
 
 
 
== Scratch Links ==
 
 
{{done}}
 
{{done}}
  
Maybe we can add a new brackets thing for Scratch Links. For example: <code><nowiki>[[Scratch/User:Example]]</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>[[Scratch/Project:Example]]</nowiki></code>. For other links, we could just do <code><nowiki>[[Scratch:{stuff after scratch.mit.edu/}]]</nowiki></code>. Thoughts? {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 23:30, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
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Within the coming days, unused [[:Category:Users' Images|Users' Images]] and [[:Category:Users' Logos|Users' Logos]] will be tagged for deletion. After marking the images with {{t|Unused user image}}, they will be deleted around two weeks later. If you do not want your user image deleted, simply delete the template on the image you want to keep. I will update you all about my progress here. If you do not want any images to be deleted, please post a comment below! Thank you.{{User:KrIsMa/Sig2}} 03:59, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
:My reasoning for this is that it looks much better if it looked like an internal link instead of an external link. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:15, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
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:Unused images have been marked for deletion. Please review [[:Category:Unused Users' Images]] for the list of images. Please note the deletion date has been changed from ''two weeks later to one week later'', meaning they will be deleted on or after '''November 8, 2020'''. Please delete the template on the image if you want to keep the image. Thank you! {{User:KrIsMa/Sig2}} 18:20, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
:: That sounds like a good idea! <scratchsig>GrahamSH</scratchsig> 20:01, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
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::Completed. {{User:KrIsMa/Sig2}} 03:29, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
:::"Scratch/Project:" is too long of a prefix IMO and also they shouldn't have caps. I've been considering adding <code>project:</code> and <code>studio:</code> - is there any other type of thing on Scratch that gets linked to often?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 00:53, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::: Well we already have Discussion Forums, possibly <code>user:</code>? I don't know how often this would be linked to though. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 14:48, 5 May 2020 (UTC){{outdent|4}}
 
  
I created a template for Scratch links [[Template:Scratch|in here]] and it worked. Everybody can use it with this code:<code><nowiki>{{scratch|write there your link code(when you write studios and projects' code, don't use their names)|write in there why are you using it:user,studio,project}}</nowiki></code><scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 20:20, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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== Talk pages redirect ==
:Ahmetlii, please correct me if I'm wrong, but your template still seems to produce external links. VFDan is suggesting a system that would produce internal links. I've re-marked this section as {{not done}}.
 
:<small>Also, a template-related thing: you put <nowiki><onlyinclude></nowiki> tags around the <nowiki>{{/doc}}</nowiki>, but they should have been <nowiki><noinclude></nowiki> tags, because you don't want to include the doc in the template. Overall though, nice template! {{e|:)}}</small><br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:40, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::(I've fixed the <nowiki><onlyinclude></nowiki> error)<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Thanks for edits Bigpuppy. I saw your edits and my mistake. My template is still a temporary solution because it's pretty new template and including problems. I will remove external links as soon as possible.<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 21:06, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::: EWs or above can just set up [[Help:Interwiki|Interwiki]] to do links to projects, users, and studios. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:16, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::A quick correction - it looks like [[Special:ListGroupRights|only bureaucrats]] can edit Interwiki data.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:30, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::<code>user:</code> won't work - that conflicts with the User: namespace. I've added <code>project:</code> and <code>studio:</code> now, though. We'll need to figure out an alternative for linking to Scratch users - maybe <code>users:</code>?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 01:47, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}What about <code>profile:</code>?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:09, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:^^^ <code>profile:</code> should work. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:17, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::Yea <code>profile:</code> seems good. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 15:24, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Alright, {{done}}! I've also added a general-purpose <code>scratch:</code> whose argument is just the path after the slash - <code><nowiki>[[scratch:conference]]</nowiki></code> produces [[scratch:conference]].{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:40, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Thanks! This will be really helpful for editors! {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 16:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Added it to [[S:STYLE]], at [[Scratch Wiki:Style Guide#internal-scratch-links|internal-scratch-links]]. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 23:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
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TenType pointed out something very relevant - [[Project:104]] links to [[Scratch Wiki:104]]! I'd forgotten about this - "project" is a namespace alias for whatever the meta-namespace is. I've renamed <code>project:</code> to <code>projects:</code> to get around this; and for consistency, <code>studio:</code> is now <code>studios:</code> and <code>profile</code> is now <code>users:</code> (the last one because "users" isn't a namespace while "user" is). The <code>scratch:</code> prefix remains unchanged. FYI!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:24, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:{{cool}} Thanks, TenType and Ken.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Thankful Thursday! April 30{{th}}, 2020 ==
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:Why do they need to be deleted?{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 19:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
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::They are unneeded <br /><small>''-unsigned comment by {{user|Scratcheur-2020Send}}''</small> 19:45, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
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:::How?{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 20:54, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
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::::As of right now, the bureaucrats and admins have said that it's not sure whether they should be deleted yet. The {{t|delete}} templates have been removed. Please reach a consensus first before adding mass deletion templates. However, thank you for wanting to contribute! {{e|:)}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:50, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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== Scratchblocks images ==
  
The next TT is May 28{{th}}. See you then!
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Hi, the Scratch Wiki is currently filled with 2.0 blocks screenshots.I think these pictures should be deleted because :
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 14:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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# They are outdated
:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 14:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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# These pictures can be replaced with blocks
::I don't know if MakeTheBrainHappy wants to fix this, but It says "...brings '''there''' own ideas" where it should say "...brings '''their''' own ideas" :P{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 18:13, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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# They are pixelized
  
== Can someone please help ==
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A bunch of pictures can be found [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Category:Scratch_2.0_Block_Images here]<br>
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<scratchsig>Scratcheur-2020Send</scratchsig>19:14, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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:From what I've known, current scratchblocks images are kept for historical reasons, but new scratchblocks images uploaded recently should be deleted. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 20:20, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
  
Can someone protect [[User talk:Dilek10/Archive 1|this talk page archive]]? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 11:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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== Downtime? ==
:{{done}} - in the future please place such requests on [[S:CPSYS]].{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 12:01, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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{{done}}<br/>
::Thanks, and alright! {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 11:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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At around 8:40 AM ET, the Scratch Wiki was down, only showing a 503. Was anyone else getting this issue, and why did the servers crash? {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 13:47, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
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:This happens occasionally, unfortunately. This is an issue with our current server that happens when they are receiving more traffic than they can handle. We have taken measures to reduce how often this happens but haven't been able to completely eliminate it. As a longer-term solution, we are currently in the process of planning a server transfer, though that is probably still a ways off.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 15:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
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::Ah, I see. I'll mark this {{done}} now.{{User:4096bits/Signature}} 15:24, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
  
== Scratch +  the Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics by Stephen Wolfram==
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== Should there be a template to mark custom signatures which do not follow signature guidelines? ==
Hi everyone! I've been asked to give you a heads up about an excellent program over on the DE Wiki: [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Scratch-Wiki:Scratch_Club Scratch Club]. I've been a few times (and would love to attend more) and the discussions relate both the Wiki and fascinating technology. The meetings are for international audiences as well with English as a standardized language. Here is a little sneak peak as to what they will be discussing at the next meeting taking place on May 20th, 2020 at *6:30 G.M.T - 8:30 C.E.S.T (Germany)*.
 
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* Offtopic: https://youtu.be/60P7717-XOQ (Stephen Wolfram: Computing a Theory of Everything) - This month Stephen Wolfram presented a breakthrough in his thoughts concerning the creation of an entirely new model of the world based on [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automata_theory Automata Theory]. He thereby wishes to better explain the laws concerning space, time, energy and matter in a clearer light than previous models. In this manner he is one step closer to achieving his life goal which he presented in the TED-talk linked above ten years ago. Here is his presentation from 4/14/2020 in which he explains his theories as well as he can and affords all interested listeners an opportunity to share his joy in the solution. If his theory is correct, it may be a breakthrough as great as that of Newton and Einstein. Fascinating! https://youtu.be/rbfFt2uNEyQ (Wolfram Physics Project Launch: 14. April 2020)
 
* The topic above isn't *offtopic* at all but a great idea for us! Who will find the Scratch program that best interprets "Rule 30"? Or who will program it? Who will write a Scratch Wiki article for it that is of such quality that it will be in Wiki Wednesday for both the English and German Wikis at the same time? *This must become a theme within the Scratch community* Why? It is the best example for Scratch's motto: "low floor high ceiling." Every student can appreciate "Rule 30" and even program it, but the implications point to a "Theory of Everything."
 
** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_30 (EN)
 
** https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regel_30 (DE)
 
** https://youtu.be/VguG_y05Xe8 (Cellular Automata and Rule 30 (Stephen Wolfram)  AI Podcast Clips)
 
** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton
 
** [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Conways_Spiel_des_Lebens Conway's Game of Life] (Artikel here with the most relevance - DE only)
 
** https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/388985821/ (the first Scratch project I discovered)
 
** What Stephen Wolfram has discovered now after fifty years of research efforts and the subject of his new book being published at the end of May is a setup for Cellular Automata with which you can model everything from particle physics to cosmology... but now we are desperately looking for the "correct rule." This would be an analogy to the previous "Rule 30" that inspired Stephen's interest to study this new field of science: "the complexity theory."
 
** Here Stephen Wolfram explains why he decided to make his quest (essentially the search for a new Rule 30 that explains what holds the world together) a public project: https://youtu.be/DwjAVp0ig9g (Wolfram Physics Project: Why we Chose to do Science in the Open with Q&A on the Backstory)
 
** Book Recommendation 1: „ Stephen Wolfram - 2020 - A Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics“ - Das Buch will be published at the end of May https://www.amazon.de/dp/1579550355/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_NkRQEb52WCN8C
 
** Book Recommendation 2: „Stephen Wolfram - 2016 - A New Kind of Science (English Edition“ (Ein 10 cm thick doorstopper (very thick book), that has so many pictures it is a sight to behold even for those without perfect English reading comprehension) https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B01N1I83V8/ref=tmm_kin_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=
 
** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellular_automaton - Reference: „Wolfram has conjectured that many class 4 cellular automata, if not all, are capable of universal computation. This has been proven for Rule 110 and Conway's Game of Life.“
 
** https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zellul%C3%A4rer_Automat - within this article it discusses “Wolframs one-dimensional Universe“ (+ Rule 110)
 
** https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=E8kUJL04ELA&list=PLt5AfwLFPxWIL8XA1npoNAHseS-j1y-7V (Playlist - John Conway on Numberphile including „ Does John Conway hate his Game of Life?“ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Horton_Conway - John Horton Conway (* 26. Dezember 1937 in Liverpool, United Kingdom; '''† 11. April 2020''' in New Brunswick, New Jersey, United States) was a British mathematician.
 
* Determine the "Scratch Project of the Week"
 
* Suggest Wiki-Wednesday Articles
 
* [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Vorlage:News&action=edit ggf. Post the News! (DE)]
 
* Go through the latest messages, specifically [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Spezial:Letzte_%C3%84nderungen], review author task list [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Scratch-Wiki:Links_f%C3%BCr_Autoren]
 
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I hope that you find these topics interesting yourself and mark down the time to join the meeting! Please let [[User:MartinWollenweber|@MartinWollenweber]] know if you are interested in joining the group where the discussion will take place. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 15:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:@Makethebrainhappy: Thank you very much for translating and sharing with the english Scratch Wiki Community! I hope this idea is as interesting to some of you as it is to me. Hope some of you "catch fire" and start their own creative activities. What do you think? {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:47, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::...I keep wanting to join, but I'm afraid I've been struck down once again by the time - 8:30pm CEST = 2:30am HKT ._.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:43, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::IMHO it‘s not important, to join the scheduled german Scratch Club Onlinemeeting, but to consider if and how we integrate Stephen Wolframs breakthrough into Scratch and Scratch Wikis activities. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 04:58, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::'''@Makethebrainhappy:''' Would you mind if we change the subject to " Sratch +  the Project to Find the Fundamental Theory of Physics by Stephen Wolfram" ? It's more about that than about the "Scratch Club Meetings (DE)"... {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 18:46, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::No, not at all. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:39, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::Thanks, [[:de:SC]] will start next week Wednesday 20.5. at 20:30 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_European_Time Makethebrainhappy knows how to join (please don't share our Google Hangout Link public!!) {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:09, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Revamping and Reviving [[S:CPND]] ==
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Question is in the title. Although, templates only used on userspace pages might not be allowed and adding that template might violate userspace rules. Such template also needs to be hidden when the signature is transcluded or forces a user to use the default ScratchSig (unless that would also break userspace rules). {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 15:44, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
{{done}}
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:Please don't edit others' userpages (including templates and signatures), even if they don't meet formatting guidelines (if it violates SCGs, then it's ok to remove it). First, ask the user on their talk page, and if that doesn't get results within a few days, contact an EW+.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 16:05, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
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:: I now presume such template would be rejected per jvvg's comment, so I will consider this {{done}}. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 16:37, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
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==My username starts with a lowercase letter==
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{{Not done}}<br/>On the Scratch website you will notice my username (brooc210) starts with a lowercase letter but on the Scratch Wiki it starts with a uppercase letter. So is it ok to use <code><nowiki>{{DISPLAYTITLE:User:brooc210}}</nowiki></code> on my userpage? I also found out that if you template it, it ignores it because itʼs not part of the page (I found this out by templating the page [[Snap! (programming language)|Snap''!'' (programming language)]] on the [[S:S|sandbox]] without saving but using the preview). <scratchsig>brooc210</scratchsig> This is a signature!
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:You can rename your userpage and your talk to the lowercase username <br /><small>''-unsigned comment by {{user|Scratcheur-2020Send}}''</small> 13:42, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
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::@Scratcheur-2020Send: That is not possible, see what I wrote below.
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:: Due to MediaWiki restrictions, usernames must start with an uppercase letter. Displaytitle is the closest anyone can get to having a lowercase username. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 14:07, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
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:::So do you think I should?<scratchsig>brooc210</scratchsig> This is a signature! 14:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
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::::Yes, you can use displaytitle for that. We actually have [[Template:Lowercase title|a dedicated template specifically for this purpose]]. Unfortunately due to the way MediaWiki works, everything needs to start with a capital letter, including usernames. As "jvvg", I can commiserate with you.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 20:51, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
  
<small>Yes, I know there are already two topics about this, but this one has a very specific suggestion that can be implemented relatively quickly if people agree.</small>
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=="Watchlist" Details==
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{{done}}<br/>So, I know that the watchlist allows for you to keep track of edits made to certain Wiki pages, but I also noticed that there is a button labeled "Live Updates" that shows up when you go [[Special:Watchlist|here]]. Does anyone know what that does? <scratchsig>84375</scratchsig> 02:53, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
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:Oops, never mind, I just figured it out. Marking as {{done}}.<scratchsig>84375</scratchsig> 03:33, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
  
As you probably know, there's a section of the CP specifically for topics that are not yet done and haven't been done for a while. Users can access it by going to [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done]] or [[S:CPND]], or alternatively via the "Things to Do" link under "For Editors" in the sidebar. The unavoidable fact is that these topics hardly ever get looked at. By anyone.
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== Talk page (for pages not users) archives? ==
 
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{{not done}}
There have already been two topics created about this issue and how to solve it, [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Not Done doesn't get enough attention|Not Done doesn't get enough attention]] and [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Not Done|Not Done]]. Kenny2scratch introduces his topic (the former one) with "So I was browsing through Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done and realized that all of the discussions had been moved there and left to rot simply because they happened to last longer than an archive period." The unfortunate thing is, this is still happening. And not only that, but ironically, it's happening to both of the topics I linked. Ken's is from February of ''(drumroll, please)'' 2018. I am not about to propose a "cure-all" solution to this problem, but something that ''could help.'' In other words, it definitely won't solve the problem, but it might assist a bit in solving it.
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Title.<br>
 
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{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 00:25, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Well, let's get onto the idea already, shall we? I think that when people ''do'' hear about Not Done, and go to it (wanting to contribute to a discussion), they may get frightened by the overwhelming length of some of the topics and leave without contributing to any of them. Therefore, here is my suggestion: we put each ''discussion'' ''(not'' its corresponding header) into an "extended content" box using <nowiki>{{collapse top}}</nowiki> and <nowiki>{{collapse bottom}}</nowiki>. Then under the header, but ''not in the "extended content" box,'' we add a short, one to three sentence summary of what the OP is saying (and perhaps even more things, like what has been discussed so far). I've created a mockup with two discussions [[User:Bigpuppy/CPND Mockup|here]].
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:What specifically are you asking? Are you talking about if this exists or you are suggesting it? {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 19:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
 
 
I think that this way, when folks go to [[S:CPND]], they can easily find a discussion they'd like to contribute to (without being scared away quickly). Then, when they find a discussion they're interested in, they can un-collapse the box and read the replies so that they can give their opinion. They won't be scared away because they didn't see ''tons'' of long discussions at the same time, they just saw short suggestions. Then they see ''one'' long discussion after they un-collapse the box — the one they're interested in.
 
 
 
What do you think?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:03, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:+1 :-) {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 15:14, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::I have the same opinion with Bigpuppy, also I have a suggestion: We can archive some of the Not Done topics, because they are not discussed actively and some of them outdated.[[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not_Done#Not Done doesn't get enough attention|It's still a big problem.]]<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 20:09, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Hmm, I like the idea but looking at your mockup I'm not sure how well it'd work in practice. I feel like it might be a better idea to let the OP(ost) of each topic be the summary, and rather collapse away all of the subsequent discussion so that it's easier to scroll past. If the OP(ost) itself is really long, then I suppose a manual summary might be in order, but unless the OP(oster) is inactive then it might be a good idea to let them do the summarizing themselves to best capture the essence of the idea. Does that make sense?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:37, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Yeah, I definitely see what you're saying. What defines "really long" though? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:20, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Whichever human happens to be making the collapsing edit - there doesn't need to be a boundary, just leave it up to the judgement of whoever is doing the moving :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:15, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::'''+1''', the mockup looks great! {{e|:D}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 20:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}To clarify, do you agree with Ken's idea as well, TenType? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:43, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:Yes, I think the OP should be part the summary except in situations when its long. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:45, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::<small>that was fast</small>
 
::Okay, thanks for clarifying. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Alright, since there were no objections, I went ahead and collapsed (almost) all of the discussions on CPND. The two ones I didn't collapse were #custom signatures and #Account Request Notes because they caused the whole page to go into the collapsed box. If anyone can find the issue, feel free to fix it and collapse them. Thank you! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:46, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Pretty much {{done}} other than the above<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:03, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Why is the interwiki link for the Test-Scratch Wiki the language code for Twi? ==
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== How do I bring attention to a specific talk page to discuss an article? ==
  
The interwiki code for the Test Wiki is 'tw', and the 'in Other Languages' section of the homepage says 'Twi', again with a link to the Test Scratch Wiki.
 
 
On it, there is no Test-Wiki for Twi, which seems to be an African language spoken in Ghana. If there is no Test-Wiki for Twi, why does the Interwiki link to the Test-Wiki use its language code? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 09:22, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 
 
:Actually, I saw it before in Wikipedia's ISO 639-3 language codes list a week ago, and I was going to say that. I think this code designed from  '''T'''est Scratch '''Wi'''ki. However, I think that it's not a big problem for now. <scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 11:27, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::<code>test</code> is not an inter-''language'' code, so it's impossible to link to (say) the Test wiki CP using <code><nowiki>[[test:Test-Scratch-Wiki talk:Community Portal]]</nowiki></code> the same way we can for real languages. However, <code>tw:</code> happens to be a real language, whose language code is recognized as an inter-language code, whose language code can nicely stand for "test wiki", and whose language name can be repurposed to mean '''t'''est '''wi'''ki. If we ever do have a wiki in the actual Twi language, then things will have to change; but for now, we use "Twi" as a means of treating "test" as an inter-language link rather than inter-wiki.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:33, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
 
 
== Featured Image Suggestions? ==
 
 
{{done}}
 
{{done}}
  
Hey, folks! Does anyone have any suggestions for featured images for the next time we update them? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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And while I'm asking, is it proper etiquette to bring attention to one of them, or do you have to wait for someone to come across it naturally? <scratchsig>EZ-Games</scratchsig> 17:06, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
:How about this?
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:I recommend using the [[S:DIS|discussion invitation system]] as you can just send a message to people on the list on their talk page (Just remember to respect their limits) Most of the time they will respond to the message and check out the talk page you linked.{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 19:05, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
:[[File:Color adjuster.png]]<br/><scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 20:45, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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::Ah yes, this is what I was looking for. Thank you! I'll be marking this as {{done}} now. <scratchsig>EZ-Games</scratchsig> 02:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
::I like that one! How about this one?
 
::[[File:Scratch 3.0 Sound Recorder.png|330px]]
 
::If we ''do'' choose both of these, though, we should choose something not from the editor for the third one. This will provide some variety.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:46, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Didn't the sound recorder picture already get featured? It has the category [[:Category:Featured Articles/Images]]. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:52, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I didn't notice that, lol. I wonder why it doesn't have the {{t|Featured}} template then?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:56, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe it was forgotten or something {{e|:P}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:58, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::Well, now it does. {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}How about this one?<br/>[[File:Welcoming Committee.png]]<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:11, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:Looks good! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 03:31, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::Hey, maybe this as well? [[File:Pen_stats_change.png]]{{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 06:34, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::I like that one!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:39, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::{{done|Featured Images updated}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:08, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== What are... ==
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== When someone edits your talk page, it says you have a new message from another user. ==
  
...common.js pages for? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 08:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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Well, sorry for another topic, but this is a bug so i'll bring it up.
:[[Special:MyPage/common.js|Your common.js file]] is a {{wp|JavaScript}} file that will run on all pages, no matter what skin you're using - but only for you. It's basically a Wiki-specific alternative to userscripts that MediaWiki supports natively.
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Title says it all.<br>
:[[Special:MyPage/common.css|Your common.css file]] is a {{wp|CSS}} file that likewise applies to all pages you visit on all skins, only for you.
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{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 00:15, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
:Changing "common" to the name of a skin, e.g. "scratchwikiskin2" will make it only apply to all pages when you are viewing them in that skin.
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:That is intentional, so users know when they recieved a message and so the user who recieves the message can deal with the message quicker. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
:There are also [[MediaWiki:Common.js]] and [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] files (as well as their skin-specific equivalents) that run on all pages for all users. These can only be edited by admins.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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::Yes, but if someone edits their message... -snip- <br>{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 20:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
::Oh, so it's a customizable... Wiki theme, right? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 13:20, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::It's kinda hard to make an exception for notifying people for editing their message.{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 21:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
:::Not really... it's basically a script in {{wp|JavaScript}} that runs on every page you visit. To "customize" your Wiki theme, it would be easier to do it in [[Special:MyPage/common.css|Your common.css file]] {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 17:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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::::Hmm.. We should send the user a message only if they add something to the talk page!{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 14:50, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
::::That means it can be used for things such as detecting stuff like viruses, right? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 18:46, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::::It's extremely difficult to automatically determine if an edit to your talk page was a new message or a modification to an existing one (this was an issue I came across writing WikiMonitor when detecting unsigned posts, and in the end my algorithm is still not 100% perfect). Therefore, MediaWiki (the platform this Wiki runs on) will notify you whenever your talk page is modified, since it is considered important that you know whenever someone modifies it.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 22:14, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
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::::::Does MediaWiki send a notification whenever another user <u>'''m'''</u> minor edits a user talk page? If yes, then is there a way to make it so that it doesn't? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 17:16, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
No because they are applying for this website. Also, every user can customize and every user can add pop-ups, warnings when they logged in but nobody cannot detect viruses with these files. For example, [[fr:Scratch_Wiki_Accueil|there is a pop-up]] made with JavaScript file in right bottom.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent}} Please answer that, jvvg! {{e|:)}} {{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 15:22, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
  
== Suggestion: Add a "sandbox" option in the user pull-down on the header ==
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== Suggestions for highlighting active notifications in Echo ==
  
My suggestion is above {{-}} that's pretty much it. When you click on your username, you would see your username, "Talk," "Preferences," "Watchlist," "Contributions," "Log out," and "Sandbox" thrown somewhere in there. "Sandbox" would direct you to your personal sandbox, not the public sandbox. If the user hasn't created their sandbox, it would direct them to the page to create it.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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A few times, it has been suggested we add the [[mediawikiwiki:Extension:Echo|Echo extension]], which, in a nutshell, would allow users to be notified when mentioned on talk pages (and provide various other kinds of notifications as well. There has never been any major objection, but in the current version of MediaWiki and the extension, the styling causes significant issues with our current skin. I have been able to overcome those challenges, resulting in this:
:Sounds like a cool feature. +1! {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 17:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::I think it's a good idea, but I think we can create a disambiguation page rather than direct to the personal sandbox. However, +1!<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 18:14, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Wikipedia has this, but this is actually harder to implement than you might think - the skin does not hardcode the user dropdown links, they are generated by MediaWiki itself. Adding the sandbox link would require a hook somewhere in LocalSettings.php and that might mess up some rhythms. There could be a link in the For Editors box, though! [[Special:MyPage/Sandbox]] is a handy link. What say y'all?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 18:35, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Ah, I see. I think that's a good alternative then! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:48, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Good idea! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 18:51, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
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+1!{{e|:)}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== sooo idk if this is off-topic ==
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[[File:Echo integrated with SWS user menu.png]]
  
but lookie here alright I constantly go active and off-topic on the Scratch Wiki depending on my mood, but I still help a lot on the Scratch discussion forums in the meantime. is this an issue?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 18:21, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
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However, one major thing remains. That is how do we emphasize individual menu items that have active notifications (for example, the "notices" link in this screenshot)? The only idea I was able to come up with myself is a badge similar to what displays next to the user menu at the top of that screenshot, but don't think that's a great idea since with the icons, those links already are pretty wide. Does anyone else have any suggestions?<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 22:25, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
:Why would it be?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 18:23, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:You are not under any obligation to stay active - if you need to take a break from Wiki editing, do. Edit when you feel like it. We don't block people or anything for being inactive.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 18:33, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Studio Articles ==
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== Undeletion of [[GameBender]] ==
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Should be procedurally undeleted as the reason provided for deletion is flatly not true-- [[:users:ericr]] is involved in development and last time I checked they are a Scratch Team member. To the deleting sysop I will say that this is why discussion is important and not simply running around deleting whatever. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 02:51, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
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:The deletion reason says:
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:''unless a '''reliable source''' that says a *current* ST member is involved is included, this is akin to a Scratch Mod which we now disallow by policy. Additionally '''there isn't enough content to warrant a full article''', especially since it's not released yet.''
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:Please, at least read the reason of the deletion, and give the link to the reliable source. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 08:38, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
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:: Apple502j, this page is labelled "Admin Requests" and involves the undeletion of a page. You are not an admin, nor may you undelete pages. The request to "at least read the reason of the deletion" when I already quoted and addressed it above does not help either.
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:: I am not able to reference the content of the page, obviously as it has been deleted, however if my memory serves the page was well-sourced and clearly indicated the involvement. Even if it is not, sources being found are a part of the deletion discussion process, which again does not appear to have taken place at all. As such, the page should be restored and, ''at most'', tagged with <code><nowiki>{{NotUseful}}</nowiki></code> (although the page would likely be kept due to the concerns in the nom statement being falsified instantly). <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 06:46, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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::: (note: this section is moved to CP, per the CPSYS guidelines)
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::: Even though I'm not able to undelete, I can delete the page - in fact, the deletion is suggested by me on the talk page first, and we didn't have any response for more than two weeks. Also, the discussion is now moved to the Community Portal (see the CPSYS rules), so nothing is preventing me from posting this, both as an EW and as a user.
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::: Saying "I read the reason" implies that you will also act accordingly; the reason specifically asked reliable sources, and you didn't provide any, at least in your posts. The deletion is (mostly) because Ken did not think that the citations given are either not enough, or incredible; so you have to explain how the page was "well-sourced". (If you need the deleted page's source, I can ask admins to post it somewhere.)
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::: Finally: I'm sure we do not restore pages if they need NotUseful template. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 10:43, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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:::: Deleted article (for reference) [[User:Naleksuh/GameBender]] {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 10:57, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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I deleted the article for a few reasons.
  
Hi! I was wondering if people can write articles on studios on the Scratch Wiki. The guidelines say if you are not allowed to advertise users or user-generated content. Does this apply to studios? I don't think it does because a Wikian wrote an article about the Scratch Design Studio. It merely explains what the SDC (Scratch Design Studio) is. So my question is can you write an article about a certain studio? Without advertising it of course, but merely explaining what the studio is and its purpose. I don't think I'll be writing any studio articles anytime soon but an answer would be much appreciated. If you would like to answer me on my talk page the link is [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/User_talk:J_Coder26 here] <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 21:06, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26
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First off, nothing in it mentioned ericr's involvement, nor are there any sources that directly mention such. The GameBender website lists him as a "collaborator" which is not enough involvement for the purposes of NOSP - had he been listed as part of "Team GameBender" I would have maybe considered this a valid invocation of the rule, but a single name mention could have been one line of code.
:Articles about user-generated content (whether projects, studios, or anything else) are not allowed. The Scratch Design Studio is not user-generated content as it was created by the Scratch Team.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::That said, [[S:NOSP|there are some exceptions]].<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::What about the Scratch Welcoming Committee? Or is that an exception? <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 21:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26
 
::::The Scratch Welcoming Committee is also an official Scratch Team studio, so it is not user-generated content. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:31, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Really? I didn't know that. I thought it was user generated but had a few ST members as managers. I don't really pay much attention to studios. <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 21:45, 17 May 2020 (UTC)J_Coder26
 
::::::Hi, please remember to indent properly - you can find a guide for indenting on [[S:WELCOME|the Welcome tutorial]] or [[Help:Talk Pages]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 02:29, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Please help me ==
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Even if he had been part of the team, it's still not allowed. [[S:NEWPAGES|Notability requirements]] expressly forbid Scratch Mods, and as far as I can see, and as far as the article describes, this is very much a Scratch Mod - it modifies Scratch to add bells and whistles. The ST-member exception is very clear that the article must meet normal notability requirements - this does not meet them.
  
'''Hello''' I am mastercoder4life. I am a new wikian and didn't understand the welcoming pages too well. Could someone please tell me how to insert a link? <scratchsig>Mastercoder4life</scratchsig> 23:37, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
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A couple final notes:
:Hello, Mastercoder4life! Welcome to the Scratch Wiki! {{e|:)}}
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* CPSYS explicitly states that it's "for actions requiring admin/EW attention that need no discussion". Apple is an EW, and it turned out that it needed discussion. Ergo, the topic was moved here.
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* The sum total of the sources was the GB website, on which I had to scroll all the way down to find the "Team" link in the footer, then scroll all the way past the "Team GameBender" section to find Eric Rosenbaum in the list of "Collaborators"; and three Vimeo links which had no people in them, just demonstrations of GB itself. There was no ''clear'' indication of his involvement.
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* Please don't say "you are not an admin" in an effort to shut someone up. Anyone that is technically able to reply has a say, even if they can't actually execute some of the actions required.
  
:On the wiki we have two types of links {{-}} '''internal links''' and '''external links.''' You use internal links when you're linking to a page on the Scratch Wiki, Scratch, or Wikipedia. You use external links to link to any other sites.
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I appreciate your effort to bring content to the Wiki, but please consider the notability and suitability of the future articles you create. The article stays deleted.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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:: Apple502j, my purpose in suggesting the addition of the NotUseful template was that no discussion surrounding deletion had taken place at all. It does not make sense for pages to be deleted without discussion but then require discussion for them to be undeleted. The purpose of restoring the page with the NotUseful template would be to fostor discussion (it would also require the nominator to actually show problems instead of simply deleting in violation of policy). In addition, I was by no means suggesting that the article qualified for the NotUseful template-- I specifically indicated that it would likely be kept as well.
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:: Kenny2scratch, it should be abundantly clear that the page in question was not a "Scratch modification" in the slightest (Scratch modifications are software, the page in question was about a piece of ''hardware''). It does not seem to fit into any of the categories and is generally thought to be allowed as a semi-official product (around as notable as, say, [[LEGO WeDo]]). Regardless, claims such as "the article stays deleted" are generally made by ''uninvolved'' administrators, and you are by no means uninvolved.
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:: It should (hopefully) be clear to any uninvolved administrator that the page did not meet the criteria for speedy deletion in any way, and even if the normal deletion venue was used, the nominator made no attempt to [[S:BEFORE]], as well as the fact that the page in question is not about a third-party Scratch modification but a piece of hardware officially affiliated with Scratch which is well-documented in other venues. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 20:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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::: I suggested the deletion on the talk page in October; nobody (including Naleksuh yourself) responded it, though, so it was safe to assume that nobody was against that idea. Additionally, English Scratch Wiki rules, AFAIK, do not require discussion before (un)deleting something. Admins can undelete without discussion; but that does not mean admins have to undelete wihout discussion. They can decide.
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::: GameBender is both a hardware and a software (because you can't just play Scratch with a CPU and RAM). LEGO WeDo (and other stuff like micro:bit) are used in the official Scratch extensions and available at scratch.mit.edu, while anyone can claim to be one of the Scratch Team members and put their names on their website. One example of this was "Dexter Industries GoPiGo For Raspberry Pi", which was deleted because it was not notable.
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::: Any administrators can take action.
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::: And finally: [[S:NOTWP]]. We do not have speedy delete and normal delete, and S:BEFORE is deadlink. (jawiki is the only wiki, AFAIK, that has both). A question: is there any website that mentions ST members are involved "as ST member" (i.e. not as a hobby). '''on scratch.mit.edu or other websites that are not GameBender official website'''? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 03:34, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
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:::: I will say that "We do not have speedy delete and normal delete"  is not true, that is exactly what we have ("speedy delete" being [[Template:Delete]] and "normal delete" being [[Template:NotUseful). However, I concede with the fact that the page in question actually ''was'' nominated for deletion. I was not aware of this until it was actually deleted. This may be an issue with the deletion process that can be resolved elsewhere. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 04:00, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
  
:To make an internal link, you use this syntax: <code><nowiki>[[NAME OF PAGE|LINK TEXT, IF APPLICABLE]]</nowiki></code> For example, if you wanted to link to the page about the Scratch Team, you'd do this: <code><nowiki>[[Scratch Team]]</nowiki></code> That would make this: [[Scratch Team]] Or you could do this: <code><nowiki>[[Scratch Team|ST]]</nowiki></code> That would make this: [[Scratch Team|ST]]
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== Promoting apple502j ==
  
:You make an external link with this syntax: <code><nowiki>[URL LINKTEXT]</nowiki></code> For example, if you wanted to link to example.com, you could do this: <code><nowiki>[https://example.com/ Example]</nowiki></code> And that would make this: [https://example.com/ Example]
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Hi everyone,
  
:For more information, visit [[Help:Links]].
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I'm suggesting promoting apple502j to adminship.
  
:Again, welcome to the Scratch Wiki! We're happy to have you here! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 23:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
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{{user|apple502j}} has been an excellent and active user both in jawiki and enwiki, and I'm sure that anyone in the wiki can agree that by looking contributions both in wikis and code contributions on the wiki extensions. However, sometimes it seems he has lack on accessing to tools - protection, undeletion, and on handling stuffs around the wiki. (we've recently see that on restoring deleted pages)
::thanks so much!<scratchsig>Mastercoder4life</scratchsig> 00:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:::In the future please indent your replies, one more colon before each reply. I fixed your last comment for you, but in the future please indent. Look at the syntax for this conversation to see what I'm talking about, and for more information see [[Help:Welcome/4#Indenting]]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 00:21, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Hi mastercoder4life. To learn how to link click [[Help:Welcome/2|here]]. Thank you for your contributions to the wiki : ) <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 02:09, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Privacy policy in English? ==
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With in this mind, I'm suggesting that promoting apple502j to adminship with the agreement of admins and wiki community. '''You can vote it by''' {{done|yes}} '''and''' {{not done|no}} ''for whether you're supporting or not supporting promotion of apple502j to adminship.''
  
The "privacy policy" link at the bottom of the page is in German. Is there one in English?<scratchsig>Donotforgetmycode</scratchsig> 08:13, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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I will start: I vote {{done|yes}}.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 11:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
:No, it's discussed in the past, and admins don't want to change it because of the laws and problems about the translation. See also [[Scratch_Wiki_talk:Community_Portal#Suggestion:_Mention_that_the_Privacy_Policy_and_Disclaimers_are_in_German|to here.]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 08:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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:I disagree. Apple is not experienced enough on enwiki (for comparison, Bigpuppy was promoted 30 months after he became EW; Apple has been EW for 14 months), and he already has full access to jawiki which I think keeps his hands full - adding enwiki adminship would only add to his burden. Unless other admins think otherwise, I consider this {{not done|Rejected}}.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
::Oh, OK. I still don't understand why it's dangerous to translate it.<scratchsig>Donotforgetmycode</scratchsig> 17:25, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
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::{{done|Support!}} ''even though it's not election time''<br>{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 15:35, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
:::You don't speak a foreign language then; some things are '''''very''' tough'' to translate. One single error in translation could basically destroy this site. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 18:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::{{not done|Strong oppose}} While I assume this request was filed due to [[Special:Diff/266623|my recent comment]] that Apple502j is not an admin, this was mentioned both in attempt against "non-admin closures", but more importantly the comment was erroneous. As for whether or not Apple502j should become an admin, [[Special:Diff/263569|this comment]] is enough to warrant a strong oppose on its own. <code>Naleksuh mentioned that current system is like a hierarchy - and that is true. However, this is supposed to happen.</code> is the complete opposite spirit that would be expected from anyone who wants to request adminship. This has happened on several other occasions as well such as [[Special:Diff/263805]] where the candidate proclaimed that a "rule is now clear" because one sysop wrote a comment proclaiming something. While this is the strongest point from anyone who wants to request adminship, even if all of that was to be ignored, it is questionable whether they are even here to contribute to the enecylopedia at all. Out of the candidate's [[Special:Contributions/Apple502j|50 most recent edits]], only two of them were to mainspace. Yes, '''two'''. Overall, I see no evidence of directing improvement towards the wiki and much more towards trying to act authoritatively, which is the polar opposite of anyone who should be trying to request adminship. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 20:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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::::I am explicitly neutral on the specific idea of promoting apple502j. That being said, (specifically to Naleksuh), the hostile tone of your recent messages, including this one, is not acceptable.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 23:28, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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::::: Kinda busy right now, please reject this. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 07:50, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
  
== macOS drops support for Scratch 1.4 on versions 10.14 and 10.15 ==
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== Prevent links to Scratch profiles in mainspace ==
  
Several replies in [[topic:406141|this forum topic]] say that macOS 10.14 and 10.15 drop support for 32-bit apps, including [[Scratch 1.4]] and obviously other 1.x versions. The end of support for 32 bit apps on 10.15 is mentioned on Apple Inc's website [https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208436 here].
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Linking to Scratch profiles in mainspace is against Wiki Guidelines, and I think it is a bit common. If this is accepted, AbuseFilter could be used. Both non-interwiki and Interwiki links to profiles should be detected. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 15:58, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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:What's AbuseFilter?<br>{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 23:01, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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::[[mediawikiwiki:Extension:AbuseFilter|AbuseFilter]] is an extension we use to automatically enforce various policies. Currently, it's used for filtering inappropriate language, preventing New Wikians from editing others' userpages without permission, blocking uploading large files (images above a certain size can cause problems on the server), blocking uploading files without a category, and preventing moves/deletions without a summary (see [[Special:AbuseFilter]] for more). As for the original suggestion, is this a common problem that comes up? I wouldn't be willing to add this unless it is, and it is also possible that there might be a legitimate reason (just thinking out loud here, linking to a ST member's profile as an example profile page) and then that would add technical and administrative overhead.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 23:26, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
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Oh.
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{{User:Lovecodeabc/Signature}} 15:15, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
  
Where in this wiki should that information be put? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 11:56, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
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== [[Featured Studios/Currently Featured‎]] ==
:Of course, the Scratch 1.x pages.  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 12:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== New Scratch Wiki Logo? ==
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There should be a program that checks a few times a day if a studio has been featured, and if so, updates [[Featured Studios/Currently Featured]] so it will always match what is on the Scratch front page.<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 19:36, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
  
Hi!
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== What would happen if... ==
I think that because the main page of the Scratch Wiki and the scratchblocks have the new 3.0 style, why not the logo? I think that the Scratch Wiki logo needs an update. It has the old 2.0 style, and 2.0 is long gone. Please tell me your thoughts on this!
 
<scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 00:14, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:...? The Wiki logo currently uses the 3.0 version of the Scratch logo for the word "Scratch". Keep in mind that the [[Scratch Website]] had parts in 3.0 styling long before 3.0 came out.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:28, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::Oh, never mind, I see the difference now. Still, there's no need for a new logo - this one works perfectly well and isn't completely outdated (like the old favicon was).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:51, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== How to find user rank? ==
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What would happen if I edited [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=File:Test.png&action=edit this] page? You're supposed to upload a file, but I'm curious what would happen if you edited a new file page without uploading a file. {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 16:44, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
{{done}}
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: Is the link invalid? It's telling me the page has been deleted and I would need to re-create it first. <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 23:42, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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::That is intentional for this "what if" situation. {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 23:46, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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::: Oh, ok I get what you were saying now. But I'm not sure, sorry. <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 01:39, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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::::That's OK {{E|:)}} {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 02:03, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
  
I joined the wiki nineteen days ago but I do not know my user rank (what is that called exactly?). How do I find it?
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== My signature ==
<scratchsig>R4356th</scratchsig> 17:43, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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{{done}}<br>
:Hello, R4356th. If you go into [[Special:Preferences|your preferences]], it will show all of the user groups you are in (under "Basic information"). For a list of possible user groups and the rights that come with them, view [[Special:ListGroupRights|this list]]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, I have question. My signature's timestamp is not formatting correctly. ([https://ibb.co/pjW6y3y image]) Does anyone know why this may be? You can view the code for my sig at [[User:Leahcimto/Signature]]. Thanks!{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}}
::Thank you, @Bigpuppy.<scratchsig>R4356th</scratchsig> 12:04, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Are "Public Sandboxes" Allowed? ==
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:I tested removing the <nowiki><br/></nowiki>, that may work. I didn't save any changes since editing userspace is against the rules, though, so you'll have to do it yourself. {{User:78ch3/Sig}} 09:46, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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::When I remove it, my signature goes on the same line as my text :/{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 13:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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:::Does anyone else know how I can fix it?{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 16:19, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
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::::Nevermind, there was an extra space in my minisig.{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 15:54, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
  
Hey, basically, can we have a userpage that everyone can edit? In this case, can we make a user sandbox a public sandbox? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 16:34, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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== "ScratchWikiSkin" Source Code - How do I get it? ==
:New Wikians can't edit others' userpages by default; to remove this restriction on one of your userpages, add {{t|open userpage}}. As for whether what you're talking about is allowed, I don't see any problem with it. However, if someone else sees one, please point it out. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::Thank you! That's what I meant. {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 17:06, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Problems about mobile devices ==
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<big>Hello everyone!</big>
{{done|probably done}}
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This is a short message, but I feel like I should ask.
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'''How do I get the source code of the "ScratchWikiSkin" in the [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering|Preferences]] menu? And, if possible, what is the source code? <big><big><big>🤔</big></big></big>'''
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I was wondering about this because I want the skin for Wikipedia, however skins not included with Wikipedia have to be implemented using CSS or Javascript. If you can find the code, THANK YOU!
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Thanks again,
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<scratchsig>8bitjake</scratchsig> 16:24, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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:Here is [https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki/ScratchWikiSkin2 ScratchWikiSkin2], found on the [https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki Scratch Wiki github].{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 17:40, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
  
When I'm making a edit in the Wiki, I sometimes see that my edits has a lot of paragraph error. I didn't do them on keyboard, but I saw an added space or a paragraph. For example, when I write "some times", it can seen as "evetimesry". I have no idea about why this problem is occurring, but it's a big problem when I write.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:39, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
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== Please delete these pages. ==
:This is likely a problem on your end. Try updating your system. You can also try switching the editor to plain-text mode using the colorful button on the top of the textbox.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 14:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
 
::Thanks. My system is up to date. I think it's related to editor's mode. {{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 08:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Thankful Thursday! May 28{{th}}, 2020 ==
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Hey, Scratch Wiki!
{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 028}}
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This topic will be different from normal.
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Earlier today, I made some pages I want to delete now. However, I am not an admin, and I don't want to flag them as '''candidates''' for deletion.
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Please let an admin know about this.
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Here are all pages I want deleted.
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<br>[[Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/User:8bitjake]]
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<br>[[Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/User:8bitjake]]
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<br>[[User:8bitjake/Templates/Sidebar]]
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Yep, that's all of them.
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I will make a new topic when I want new pages deleted.
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{{User:8bitjake/Templates/Siggy}}
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: I'm not an admin, but maybe you should ask a specific person so that you can get a response faster =) <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 23:49, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
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::To let an EW+ know you want those pages deleted, put <code><nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki></code> at the top of the page.{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 00:23, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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:::{{done}} - in the future, we also have [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests]] for stuff like this.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 01:51, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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== How can I make my whole talk page a certain font? ==
  
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Title. I have tried using the span style tags, but that only does one line at a time. Is there someting else I can use to do the whole page?{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 00:29, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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:If you put <nowiki><div style="font-face:my font"></nowiki> at the very top (and do ''not'' close it), that will apply a font to your whole page. If you do this, please make sure not to use a font/style that is too difficult to read.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 01:53, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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::Thank you! I'll mark this as {{done}} now.{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 13:58, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
  
The next TT is Wednesday, June 24{{th}}, in conjunction with the 50{{th}} Wiki Wednesday! See you then!<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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== 2nd Sandbox ==
:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:58, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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So, I happened to notice that bigpuppy had made a 2nd sandbox [[User:Bigpuppy/Sandbox_2|here]] and I wanted to make a 2nd sandbox myself for experimental purposes. Do I just do that by creating a new page called "User:J_Coder26/Sandbox2" which I did [[User:J_Coder26/Sandbox2|here]]? I'm not sure if there's a specific way to do this or I'm just supposed to create a new page, so if anyone could let me know that would be helpful. Thanks. <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 08:12, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
::Yay!{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:41, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
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:You're right, you can name it whatever you want - for example, "Sandbox2" or "Another sandbox". {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 15:21, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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::Alright, thank you. <scratchsig>J_Coder26</scratchsig> 16:42, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
  
== Scratch Archive ==
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== Signature template - Is it possible? ==
The old Version of the [[Forum]] is archived here: https://scratcharchive.asun.co/forums/ (as far as I know it changed url several times, but I'm not sure). Does anybody know who owns and runs this website (I think it's one of us fellow Scratch-wiki-authores?). Could it be a good idea to archive it aditional on the Scratch-Wikis server in case the private persons who runs the archive discontionues it one day? There are so many historical references from the Scratch Wiki to the old forum that this could be usefull. {{User:MartinWollenweber/signature}} 07:00, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:Although they are no longer active on Scratch (as said on their profile, although they replied to a comment on their profile 28 days ago), [[users:comp09|comp09]] likely owns it.
 
: (I found that out via the 404 page of the archived 1.x Scratch Forums, which links to a website that I eventually found out had a link to it on their Scratch profile). {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:27, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
 
:: Also http://asun.co links directly to https://andrewsun.com, which [[users:comp09|comp09]] said on their profile is their site. Thus, it appears that comp09 is the owner of the forum archives. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 00:24, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::: scratcharchive.asun.co has been stable since 3 years. To myself, the best option is not archive again for now.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 11:21, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::: It is owned by [[User:blob8108|blob8108]] to my knowledge. Its URL used to be http://scratchforums.blob8108.net/forums/ before and a [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/22464/ post] by [[User:jvvg|jvvg]] stats that it is owned by him. I also think I saw him saying that it was owned by him on GitHub once. It might be a good idea to contact him.<scratchsig>R4356th</scratchsig> 07:00, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Blob8108 transferred ownership to Andrew Sun (comp09) when the domain changed from scratchforums.blob8108.net to scratcharchive.asun.co.
 
:::::To answer the original topic, since we have that power now it would probably be a good idea, but then again it would be a major link change operation (both when it comes to search results and links from Wiki or Scratch). I trust Andrew to say something if he doesn't think he can continue hosting the forum archives - if he does say anything, we can volunteer ourselves.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:42, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Problems with Categorizing a Page ==
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<big>'''HELLO WORLD!'''</big>
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I was wondering if it is possible to set your signature - the 3 tildas - to be a template.
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In other words, your signature ''calls'' a template. In this case, ''<nowiki>{{User:8bitjake/Templates/Siggy}}</nowiki>''
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Here are both my signatures, with the latter being my current one (the default), and the former being my wanted signature.
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{{User:8bitjake/Templates/Siggy}}
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<scratchsig>8bitjake</scratchsig>
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If you can find a way to make a signature a template - THANK YOU!
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Thanks again,
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<scratchsig>8bitjake</scratchsig> 20:37, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
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[[File:CitationComPortal.PNG]]
  
I'm trying to get [[Language Tutorials/Java/The "Hello World" Program|this page]] categorized... But I have a problem. It doesn't seem to be categorized. What should I actually do? {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 12:41, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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== Wiki Question ==
:<code>CTRL+F5</code> Clean your cache.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 12:43, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::Didn't work. {{User:Dilek10/Minisig}} 12:47, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Just wait or close tab and look it another time. It'll update.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 13:04, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::it takes time to categorize. i believe the categorizer cron task runs 1-2 times a week{{User:KrIsMa/Sig2}}  20:35, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Categorization is very slow for some reason so the cron job refreshes ''all'' link-related lists (including categories, [[Special:WhatLinksHere]], and redirect lists) every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. Just wait a few days.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:39, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== How do you upload an image? ==
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What's happened in the last few months on the wiki? I've been a bit swamped with schoolwork so I'm just asking since my last real activity was around late September. <br />{{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} 14:11, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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:The CP's been archived<small>(I think)</small>, [[User:Jackson49|Jackson49]] joined, (he is so helpful), [[Project]]'s intro picture changed,
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yeah, that's baciclly all that happened.
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[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 14:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  
How do you upload an image from your computer to a Wiki article? I check S:CHEAT and it didn't have anything that helped me. Garnetluvcookie 19:49, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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== 2020 Election? ==
:[[Special:Upload]]
 
:{{note|For the signature, just use pen button or "Sign your username:" section.}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:02, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::Or you can add 4 tildes, like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 20:48, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Elections ==
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Hi! So, I'm new to the Scratch Wiki, so I'm not well informed about this yet, so sorry if this is obvious or irrelevant, but is there going to be a 2020 election for new Administrators or Experienced Wikians? From what I can find, it looks like there is an election once per year, yet I can't find any info for a 2020 election, despite 2020 being almost over. Is there going to be one soon? <scratchsig>Jackson49</scratchsig> 02:40, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
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:{{done|rejected}} Well, we're tired of elections (especially after a big, real one) - maybe next year (though not sure). We had a new administrator this year so that's enough. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 03:35, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
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::Okay, thanks for your info! By the way, I wasn't suggesting an election. I was just asking if there was going to be one, but I got enough info from your answer, so thanks. <scratchsig>Jackson49</scratchsig> 14:10, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
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:::To be a bit more specific, we have elections on an as-needed basis rather than following any sort of fixed schedule. We currently have sufficient EW+, but will hold an election if the situation changes to the point where we determine we need more. Also, as apple502j said, elections are time consuming and a distraction from regular Wiki operations, so we try not to have them ''too'' often.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
  
Scratch Wiki has a lot of EW, I know, also election decision can create by only EWs and sysops with majority but I think the Scratch Wiki may need more EWs in a near future. What do you think about this?{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 10:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
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== WikiMonitor ==
:We have plenty of EWs, and I don't see any need for more in the near future. There's probably not going to be another election for a long time.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:35, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== New Featured Images suggestions ==
 
 
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Hi, WikiMonitor has been giving me a lot of "unsigned" messages, but the linked edits are me marking something as done on my talk page. Does anyone know how I can get WikiMonitor to ignore the edits of me marking topics as done, preferably without the {{t|NoBots}} template?{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 22:16, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
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:Check the 'this is a minor edit' box when you add the Done template. Also, I think WikiMonitor ignores NoBots. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:50, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
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::Thanks! {{done}}{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 21:07, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
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:::Yes, marking an edit as minor will cause it to be ignored. I did my best to determine what counts as a message vs. not a message, but that's a nearly impossible task to get universally right with a basic algorithm. Please do not add {{t|NoBots}} just to avoid getting notifications if you are getting a lot of notifications for actual mistakes you made (if any) though, as I have the ability to override that if I determine someone is abusing the template.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 21:47, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
  
Hello! The [[S:FI|Featured Images]] were just updated, so does anyone have any ideas for new ones for next month?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:09, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
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== Why did you move servers? ==
:[[File:What_the_Community_is_Loving.png|300px]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 10:41, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::A few suggestions: [[:File:Cat Blocks.png|here]], [[:File:Browser_not_supported.png|here]], [[:File:3.0_Pen_Blocks.png|and here]].<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 19:13, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::{{done|I updated it}} with Ahmetlii's suggestion and Groko13's first two suggestions. Does it look okay? Does anything need to be changed?
 
:::<small>I wasn't sure whether we were still fully following the Wiki Wednesday/Featured Images at the same time convention (it came about a while ago), so thank you Groko13 for your post [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions|here]] that mentioned the convention. {{e|:P}}</small><br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:56, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Looks good to me! {{e|:)}}<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 04:10, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== April Foooooools...? ==
 
 
 
8bitjake Hey guys. It's @8bitjake here. I've seen some April Fools articles, and I want to make one... but how?<scratchsig>8bitjake</scratchsig> 20:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:Just create an article named as Scratch Wiki:April Fools/(the name of article), then add <code><nowiki>{{AF}}</nowiki></code> template to the article you created. Write your fake article. Finally, add <code><nowiki>{{April Fools}}</nowiki></code> to top of the real article.{{note|You don't use the your name again, use the signature instead and place it to end of your post.}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 21:03, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== How do I use templates? ==
 
  
<scratchsig>8bitjake</scratchsig> 21:25, 8 June 2020 (UTC)8bitjakeI recently got my April Fools template question answered, but how do I even use a template in the first place?
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You moved from the US to Germany, right? Why did you move servers?<br>[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 15:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
:8bitjake, welcome to the Scratch Wiki! You can transclude a template by placing two sets of curly brackets (<code><nowiki>{{ }}</nowiki></code>) around the template name. For example, <code><nowiki>{{doing}}</nowiki></code> would translude {{t|doing}}, to make {{doing}}. You can do this with other namespaces too; for example, <code><nowiki>{{User:8bitjake}}</nowiki></code> would transclude your userpage.
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:I'll give the very short version: the Wiki was for a long time directly run by the ST. They were in charge of technical maintenance, were (for all intents and purposes) the only users with bureaucrat privileges (think stuff like modifying system settings, modifying user permissions, blocking, etc.), and paid for the hosting. However, the ST didn't have much direct involvement with the community, so often such changes that needed to be made required contacting a ST member, which could take a while to get a response. At the same time, the Wiki EW+ faced a lot of obstacles in getting things done for these reasons, since we couldn't actually make any changes directly and instead had to go via the ST. Furthermore, the ST did not want to continue being responsible for both funding and maintaining the Wiki. While all of this was happening, the Scratch Wikis in other languages (the flagship one being German) existed independently and were not maintained by the ST. Eventually, an arrangement to give the Wiki community direct control and relieve the ST of the responsibility of maintaining was reached, and that was that the Wiki would be moved to be hosted alongside the other non-English Wikis, and that's where we are now.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 21:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
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::Yeah, but the fair use problem and stuff...<br>[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 01:55, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
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:::Unfortunately there is also the funding angle of this. The hosting was already funded (and still is) for a host in Germany, but to run it in the United States, we would have to fund it ourselves. We are considering moving the server back to the United States and working out a funding arrangement, but so far don't have an official plan.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:45, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
  
:Also, in the future, please place your signature after your message rather than before it. Thanks!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 23:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC)
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== What should be done about a bad reference? ==
  
== Merge Request ==
 
 
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What if an article has a reference that does not prove the fact it is placed after?
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<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 01:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
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:In that case, remove the reference and add {{t|citation needed}}.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
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::{{done}}<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 04:07, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
  
I think we should merge the [[Variable Monitor]] article with the [[Stage Monitor]] article. They're about the same exact subject. There's been a merge template on it for a while, but no one has said anything. Thoughts? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 18:47, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
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== Question ==
:I have no idea, Scratch Wiki has a lot of things to do such as [[Scratch Wiki talk: Community Portal/Admin_Requests#Edit_of_a_protected_page]], [[Special:Diff/249820]] or [[Special:Diff/249838]]. Just wait, probably it will solve.{{note|You can try to merge it if you can do.}}{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:57, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::Okay, I'll merge it when I get around to it (or someone else can)<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 20:49, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::I vote for a merge. We should leave a redirect though. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 21:21, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Merged!<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 15:10, 12 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== How to add an image on my user space? ==
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You don't have the visual editor on talk pages. '''''Why, oh, why?'''''<br>[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 00:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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:The short answer is that it doesn't work well with talk pages (yet). Once MediaWiki can make it work better with talk pages, we can enable it there.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:44, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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::{{done}}<br>[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 21:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
  
i want to put my scratch profile picture on my userpage but the tutoriol seems too complicated and i cant understand it! is there a simpler way to do it? <scratchsig>Hani2018</scratchsig> 13:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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== 12{{th}} anniversary of Scratch Wiki! ==
:Go to [[Special:Upload]], upload the file, write description and file's name. Paste <code><nowiki>[[Category:Users' Images]]</nowiki></code> to end of the description.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 13:45, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Thanks! <scratchsig>Hani2018</scratchsig> 14:38, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::You're welcome. Please, use indents when replying.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:51, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== [[Special:Diff/250000|250000{{th}}]] edit on the Wiki! ==
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Yay! {{e|tenmil}} {{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 17:43, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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:{{e|tenmil}} <scratchsig>Jackson49</scratchsig> 20:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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::Whoo-hoo! Happy 12{{th}} anniversary Scratch Wiki! {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 20:29, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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:Yay, happy 12{{th}} birthday! {{e|tenmil}}<br><small>someone bake a birthday cake, the name of the person is "Scratch Wiki", it's his 12th birthday</small><br>[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 21:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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:::Yay! Happy 12{{th}} anniversary Scratch Wiki! Look, I even made some cupcakes: {{e|cupcake}}  {{e|cupcake}} {{e|cupcake}} {{e|cupcake}} {{e|cupcake}} {{e|cupcake}}<small><br/>
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:::hope thats enough for all gobo's friends</small>{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 22:14, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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::::{{e|10mil}} {{e|10mil}} {{e|10mil}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 22:18, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
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:::::I made a cake! 🎂 {{e|cupcake}} Scratch Cat {{e|cupcake}} Gobo {{e|cupcake}} Pico{{e|cupcake}} Nano{{e|cupcake}} Giga {{e|cupcake}}<br>ENOUGH<br>[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 13:59, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
  
Congratulations to all of the Wiki users!<big>{{e|tenmil}}</big>{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 17:41, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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== Upgrade MediaWiki ==
:{{e|tenmil}}{{e|tenmil}}{{e|tenmil}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:44, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::Neat! How do you see how many edits there are? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 17:49, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Just look at edit number when you click the edit. It will be shown on URL's "&oldid=" section.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:00, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::congrats! :D <scratchsig>Hani2018</scratchsig> 18:59, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== How do I move this page? ==
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Title. [[Special:Version]] (1.3.5) vs [https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Version this] (1.3.6)<br>[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 22:15, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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:MediaWiki version 1.3.6 is not available to the public yet as I can see. {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 23:09, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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::Also, upgrading MediaWiki is a fairly major undertaking. It takes 30-90 minutes ''per wiki'' during which the Wiki being upgraded must be down completely and there are a total of nine Wikis. Additionally, we generally have to do a lot of prep work, like doing a dry run to make sure none of our custom software breaks and see if we need to do any configuration updates. As a result, we generally only install major updates (LTS versions) unless there is a critical feature/bug fix. Anyway, the current stable version available to the public is still 1.35, with 1.36 not released yet.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 00:30, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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::: Jvvg, the last time MediaWiki had been updated here being how it was was due to an exceptional circumstance involving previous changes and updating from an unsupported version. In general, standard updates are merely a routine task and are not a major project, nor do they require downtime (WMF wikis update seemlessly weekly).
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::: Lovecodeabc, MediaWiki.org runs WMF builds of MediaWiki, which are modified distributed on a weekly basis and are not intended for public use such as Scratch Wiki. The latest stable version is still 1.35.0, which is what Scratch Wiki is currently using. The current supported versions can be tracked at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Version_lifecycle. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 08:01, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
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:::: We are using LTS versions, so the problem with 1.28 should not exist for at least 2.5 years now. We also use several extensions that are created by us, and we have to test that it works, before using them.
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:::: Most of WMF weekly updates do not involve huge database changes - the "downtime" is mostly for changes that require DB lock. It may also be a way to reduce bandwidth while files are being transported, but I'm not sure.
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:::: If it's a patch update, sure, it should be easy - but "major" upgrade is not. But at least we have 2.5 years. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 13:25, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
  
Apparently, [[Viewer_Language_(block)|this block]] was renamed to just Language (see talk page), so I tried moving the article to [[Language (block)]], but it wouldn't let me (I think because there is already a redirect page there). How am I supposed to move the page? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 22:13, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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== Is Visual Editor enabled by default? ==
:I think it should let you overwrite most redirect pages, but since that page had more edits in its history than just making it a redirect, it didn't let you. I deleted the redirect and its associated talk page, then moved the page, so I'll mark this as {{done}}.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 23:19, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
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{{done}}<br>
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For new users to be more specific. {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 22:30, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
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:No. I had to go to [[Special:Preferences]] and enable the visual editor.<br>[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 14:00, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
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::Does the edit option appear as "Edit" or "Edit source" before you enabled VE? {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 17:27, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
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:::It is "Edit": I do not have Visual enabled<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 17:29, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
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::::IIRC it was enabled for me following the update.{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 14:58, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
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:::::Alrighty, thanks for the help! {{done}} {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 17:11, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
  
== How to create a sidebar? ==
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== Archive the CP ==
  
On user bigpuppy’s  profile I clicked edit and copied the code of the sidebar and pasted it to my user page but i don’t even know how to make a side bar. Here are the things that I wanted to change it:
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^^^^<br>[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 14:06, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
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:Not very big, we can kee it for now. {{done}} {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 18:20, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
  
*colour of sidebar:pink
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== Suggestion ==
*having my scratch profile picture on it
 
*having a link to my user page,talk page contributions page, and community portal.
 
  
Is there a easier code that can just be edited to make a custom sidebar?<scratchsig>Hani2018</scratchsig> 13:57, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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{{not done}}<br>Yeah, so when you get a notification because a page on your watchlist changed, look closely, and you'll see it:<br><br>
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Sent from account-requests@scratch-wiki.info<br><br>Weird, huh? We should change it!<br>[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 23:40, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
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:I never noticed that. I'll look into it.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 01:45, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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::I think it's been updated. Please let me know if there are any further issues.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 16:30, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
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:::I don't think it's fixed yet- I just got a watchlist notification 19 hours ago and it still is from account-requests@scratch-wiki.info <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 18:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
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{{outdent|3}}
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Hmm. The relevant lines in LocalSettings.php are:
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$wgEmergencyContact = "contact@scratch-wiki.com";
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$wgPasswordSender = "account-requests@scratch-wiki.info";
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$wgNoReplyAddress = 'no-reply@scratch-wiki.info';
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If anyone knows anything else to change, please let me know.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:48, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
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:Might be that you didn't ''create'' those email adressses.<br>[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 12:52, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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::No, that wouldn't affect it.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:03, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
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:: $wgPasswordSender is the address used to send all site emails. It was originally for password resets but has somewhat evolved as MediaWiki begins sending more and more types of emails. You can simply change that to a different value if a different one is desired. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 19:58, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
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:::Now, when I get an email it is from account-requests but the reply-to email is no-reply@scratch-wiki.info.{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 00:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  
:I recommend you to open a page named as User:Hani2018/Sidebar and then, add it to your pages with this code: <code><nowiki>{{User:Hani2018/Sidebar}}</nowiki></code>. You can change the colors and boxes by CSS <nowiki><div></nowiki> tags, so check [[Help:CSS]] for more information.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:03, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
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==Nobots template not working ==
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So, the nobots template is showing as a red link, or dissapers. Can you help? <scratchsig>HacksonJackson</scratchsig> 23:07, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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:I might be wrong, but I think it's because it starts with a lowercase n. It should be NoBots <scratchsig>Jackson49</scratchsig> 23:11, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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::The fact that nothing changes is intentional. Bots are designed to check if the template is there, and if you look at the template code, there's mostly nothing in it. The template is blank. If you get a red link, make sure you spelt NoBots correctly. {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 23:20, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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:::It is meant to be put at the top of the page with no additional text, as it appears invisable because the template has no content. Make sure you spelled it right too. The correct spelling is <code>{{t|NoBots}}</code>.{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 19:44, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
  
== How to make a April Fools userpage? ==
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== Red Links ==
  
(Sorry if my spelling is bad, i am typing on an iPad)
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{{done}}<br>
It's pretty self-explanatory, but if you really need to....
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I have a question about red links (also know as dead links). Should red links be removed? I have seen that they should simply be turned blue, but I have also seen (at [[S:CONTRIB]]) that it is listed as a flaw and should be removed. What is the correct answer?{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 18:15, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
How do I make a April Fools version of my userpage?
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:: If it is about a title that could reasonably exist, then it should be "turned blue" as said above rather than simply removed (for example, "A '''Scratcher''' is someone who has created at least one [[project|<span style="color:red">project</span>]]" would be better turned into "[[project]]" than "project". However, [[completely unreasonable article titles, such as this one,]] would likely be handled on a case by case basis. <scratchsig>Naleksuh</scratchsig> 19:55, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
14:37, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 
{{unsigned|Garnetluvcookie}}
 
:Create a page named as Scratch Wiki:April Fools/(your userpage's name) ,put your content with <nowiki>{{AF}}</nowiki>. Add <nowiki>{{April Fools}}</nowiki> to your original userpage.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 14:51, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Bad word filter ==
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== Short period of read-only time tonight ==
  
Someone must change the abuse filter.[[Special:Diff/250356|There's inappropriate content as fourth.]] {{Plain link|1=https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=User:ScratchDude101&action=history|2=And, lots of the edits are still showing by history.}} Please rickroll them.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 17:04, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
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Hi everyone,
:That word isn't always inappropriate and is only wrong if used in a certain way. Also, what's the problem with lots of edits still being shown by history? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 18:06, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::1. You are right about that word in first edit, but other words?
 
::2. They are still accessible.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::I'm going to leave it up to the admins to decide whether or not the edits should be hidden. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 19:33, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I don't see any inappropriate words in the edit you linked. As to the history, what's wrong with them being accessible? We don't hide revisions just because there are a lot of them.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:52, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== scratchblocks is updated! ==
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At [https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Scratch+Wiki+update+from+1.35.0+to+1.35.1&iso=20201224T21&p1=797 9pm Scratch Time tonight] (click the link to see it in your local timezone), we will be upgrading the English Wiki (i.e. this one) to MediaWiki 1.35.1. Unlike the last upgrade, this should be a pretty quick process that only takes a few minutes. The Wiki will be read-only during the time it takes since we do need to perform some database operations as part of the upgrade. I will post an update once that's done.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 22:08, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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:Right, I live in EST, and stay up until like 11pm (o_o lol) so I will witness it. Anyway, thanks for the heads up!<br>[[File:Lovecodeabc.png|20px|<span title=""></span>]][[User:Lovecodeabc| Lovecodeabc]] Links: [[User_talk:Lovecodeabc|talk page]] | [[users:lovecodeabc| scratch profile]] | [[Special:Contributions/Lovecodeabc|contributions]] 00:27, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
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::We did encounter some small technical difficulties, but in the end it looks like we got everything working. Thank you for your patience! Please let me know if there are any issues.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:19, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
  
mw-ScratchBlocks4 is updated to include new version of scratchblocks. This contains support for cat blocks(<code>::cat</code>):
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== A suggestion for the Style Guide ==
<scratchblocks>
 
when @greenFlag clicked::cat
 
</scratchblocks>
 
  
This version also adds "when stage clicked" block:
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Frequently, users link to April Fools articles from others with the prefix for them before it. This is unnecessary, as the joke article will still show up on April Fools Day without it, and the original article likely does not show if the user goes to the joke page with the April Fools prefix.
<scratchblocks>
 
when stage clicked
 
</scratchblocks>
 
  
and some bugfixes. Note that plugins used in the Discussion Forum is not updated. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 05:30, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
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I think something recommending that users should link April Fools pages from others using the link to the normal page should be added to the Style Guide.
:Yes, This looks cute!, I wish it could have it forums as well, but it doesn't updated in the forums, I remembered this was from April Fools 2020, isn't it? <scratchsig>Agarraga</scratchsig> 09:51, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::Yes, it was from April Fools 2020. About the forums not being updated, I actually have authored a [[topic:349380|forum post about that]]. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 01:36, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::{{cool}} <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:38, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== About linking other Wikis... ==
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For example, <nowiki>[[Scratch Wiki:April Fools/X]]</nowiki> (with X being the name of the article with an April Fools page) should be changed to <nowiki>[[X]]</nowiki>. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 18:12, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
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:I don't think this should be in the overall style guide, but I'll add it April Fools' main page, which serves as a de facto style guide for April Fools' pages.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 19:08, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
  
So I am a editor on the Ofiicial Minecraft Wiki, and I was wondering if I could link my userpage on there. Please answer!
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== February Featured Images ==
<scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie 14:55, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
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Hello everyone! It's time to decide on [[Scratch Wiki Home/Featured Images|featured images]] for February. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.
:You may link your userpage on there if their policies permit you to do so. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 02:11, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::As long as they allow it, you can link to your userpage here from your userpage there. However, don't go around putting links to your userpage in actual articles on the MC Wiki.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:34, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Memories for Wiki Wednesday 50 ==
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;What can I suggest?
Hi everyone - We have a very special Wiki Wednesday coming up. It will be our fiftieth edition of the newsletter. As a reminder [[Wiki Wednesday]] is our monthly newsletter posted on the Scratch website. We want to make this edition extra special! Please submit below some pieces that we could format into the post: short paragraphs about "your favorite Wiki edit" or longer OP-eds encouraging members of the Scratch community to join us as Wikians. I am happy to review and incorparate any idea you have - I really want this edition to reflect our community as a whole. I look forward to reading you responses. I would appreciate if your submission was finished and posted here by '''June 21st''' so that I have time to review and format the final post. Thanks again! <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 02:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
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You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.
:I'm so excited! Anyway, my paragraph is:
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;How do I tell if an image has already been featured?
:My favourite Wiki edit was probably the time I edited a bunch of stubs with actually good content in it, not just rushed, 5 minute content. I had a lot of fun doing that, and I want to do it again!<scratchsig>garnetluvcookie</scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie 00:24, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
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It will have the {{t|featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.
::My favourite edit is "hmmst'd've's (the pulp free orange juice with extra pulp that crash-landed into my basement and said banana)". It was funny. Also, it's a good example for that Scratch and Scratch Wiki are same, we're not writing "only" boring contexts. Also, we're (as Scratchers in Scratch Wiki) writing for Scratchers. There has funny and helpful things. We're trying to helpful for everyone because this wiki is written by Scratchers for Scratchers. That's the main task.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 18:31, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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;Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?
:::I love editing for the Wiki because I get to share my knowledge about Scratch and help other people find information that they need. Also, I've learned a lot of new things about Scratch while working on and reading the Wiki articles. Being a Wikian is a great way to give back to the Scratch community, and it's a lot of fun working with people from around the world, whether it's working on a large project or page, or just making some smaller changes to an article. The Scratch Wiki community is really nice and helpful as well.<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 16:00, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
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No. However, please don't suggest ''too many...'' {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:45, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
::::Hopefully it's not too late; here's my paragraph:
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:I suggest this image: [[File:Graphical Effects.png]] <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 22:56, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
::::I don't think I have a favorite edit, because it's all of the edits by every Wikian all coming together that make the Scratch Wiki what it is. If you're looking for a way to help out in the Scratch community, the wiki is a great place for you! You'll get better at collaborating, researching, and writing. Editing the wiki is fun, too! We have a wonderful community that's very welcoming and would be delighted to answer any questions you have. If you're interested in joining, just follow the instructions here: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/S:CONTRIB We're excited to meet you and see your contributions!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:38, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
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::I suggest this one: [[File:Small Stage Layout Toggle Switch.png|300px]]{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 23:51, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
:::::Honestly I don't have single edits that I like - I like the grind of looking through recent changes, and making follow-up edits if necessary. It was also nice to become EW to sort of formalize that process :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:59, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::Looks like i'll suggest this one[[File:Scratch3 vector editor.jpg|300px]]<scratchsig>Geometric_ghast</scratchsig> 01:23, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
::::::This topic is {{done}} as [[topic:416946|Wiki Wednesday is out]]. {{e|:)}} Thanks {{user|Makethebrainhappy|name}}!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:00, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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::::<small><small>hold up one of the images I suggested got featured</small></small> I'm suggesting [[:File:CosmiCat.png|this]] and [[:File:Leave A Comment Box.png|this]]. :P {{User:4096bits/Signature}} 01:34, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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:::::This one, [[File:Gobo Normal Mainsite Frontpage.PNG|175px]]<br>{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 02:39, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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::::::[[File:Featured Galleries.png]] looks nice<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 03:51, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
  
== Necroposting on [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done]] ==
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== Thankful Thursday! December 31{{th}}, 2020 ==
 
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Hello all, It's been a doozy of a year for all of us. I hope everyone is staying during these times. As we approach the new year let us try to be a better person, be kinder to each other, and let us remember to Scratch On!
Some of the topics in Not Done have been solved or unusable/outdated. Maybe we can archive as "closed". Any ideas? <span style="color:grey">(edited in 23.06.2020 (UTC))</span>{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 21:38, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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<br />
:Which topics specifically do you think the discussion is completed on? Maybe ask the original authors of the posts. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 02:49, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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<br />
 
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 034}}
== Thankful Thursday! (On a Wednesday!) June 24{{th}}, 2020 ==
 
Welcome to this month's Thankful Thursday! This month is a special one because it is the 50{{th}} edition [[Wiki Wednesday]]! For those of you who don't know Wiki Wednesday is a monthly Scratch News series where the Scratch Team features an article suggested by the community on the last Wednesday of the month. To celebrate we are releasing Thankful Thursday a day early to be in conjunction with Wiki Wednesday. So, an extra special thanks to both MakeTheBrainHappy and LiFaytheGoblin who made Wiki Wednesday possible!
 
<br /><br />
 
 
 
Without further ado:
 
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 029}}
 
  
 
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
 
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
  
  
The next TT is, July 30{{th}}, see you then!<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 04:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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The next TT is, January 28{th}}, 2021 see you then!
:{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 04:24, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 14:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
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:{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 14:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
  
== Removing biased opinions on Wiki pages. ==
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== Any way to see the newest wikians? ==
 
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{{done}}
There are many pages with a note like:
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So, I recently made a welcoming message, and I'm having trouble finding new users to use it on. Is there a way to see the newest wikians anywhere?<br>{{User:Geometric_ghast/Signature}} 22:37, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 
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:Yes! The [[Special:Log/newusers|User Creation Log]] comes in handy for welcoming new users. You can also stalk [[Special:RecentChanges|Recent Changes]] (like many other users do). <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 22:51, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
{{note | This can be hard for New Scratchers to make, as of its complexity.}}<br />
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::Ah, thanks!<br>{{User:Geometric_ghast/Signature}} 02:56, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
 
 
The Scratch Wiki is supposed to be a neutral source of information about the Scratch website, right?  I suggest that we remove all those notices from the pages. New Scratchers aren't dumb. They are just users who made an account. No-one needs to say "This is the green flag. Sound it out with me G. R-" NO. I know a user who is amazing at coding in text-based languages, yet other users were saying "ThE ScRaTcH WiKi sAyS tHaT nEw ScRaTcHeRs CaN't cOdE sHoW I sHoW yOu HoW!1!1!". This is making the Wikians look like fools for putting this stuff on here, I quote an earlier part of my post "The Scratch Wiki is supposed to be a <big>neutral source</big> of information. This is the end of this before it gets a little too ranty.
 
<scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie 01:30, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:You bring up a very good point! I agree that all of these notices should be removed. The reader can judge how hard a script will be to understand themselves, based on their experience and skill level. {{e|:)}} Everyone is different.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:59, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::I also agree. The wiki should not have such notices. Are there any examples of such pages?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 19:13, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Jakel181, I saw them remove one in [[Special:Diff/250987|this edit]]. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:21, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I agree, too. A lot of tutorials has similar notes like that.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:33, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::'''+1''', no page should have such notices. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:06, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Tell users on Wiki Wednesday topics not to spam in replies ==
 
  
When Wiki Wednesdays are mentioned on the Scratch News on the homepage, some users' replies contain spam such as blockspam.
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== We have almost 280,000 edits! ==
  
I suggest that at the end of each Wiki Wednesday initial post, it should say that when replying, users should not spam. It could also give the definition of what is considered spam (such as offtopic blocks, gibberish, emoji testing, etc.), so users will less likely be confused about what spam is (other than the food product of the same name), that spam could be reported, and that block testing and project advertisements go in the Forum blocks testing topic and the Show and Tell forum respectively. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 09:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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Live count: {{NUMBEROFEDITS}} {{e|10mil}}<br>{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 20:49, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
:It's a good idea - and I agree with you, but I think that's not a exact solution manner. As an example, lots of announcements and sticky topics (Wiki Forum Community Portal) are getting blockspam; some people, like me, TenType, SausageMcSausage or ST, warn them, but I see a new spam everyday when I check Wiki Forum Community Portal. Also, nobody don't write aggressive posts for warn users; for example, don't write "DON'T MAKE BLOCKSPAM OR SOMEBODY MAY WARN YOU(ME OR ANYBODY ELSE)". I think WW could include a link [[topic:387618|to here.]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 11:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Wiki doesn't render correctly in the Vector Skin ==
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== Would an article about uploads.scratch.mit.edu be ok? ==
  
Is this happening for anyone else? <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 20:19, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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So, uploads.scratch.mit.edu is a pretty cool website, as it stores PFP's, project and studio thumbnails, and other images on the website. However, it can also serve as an alternate server for Scratch which has full interactivity with the main Scratch website (try uploads.scratch.mit.edu/discuss) (meaning that you can use it to access scratch if the main Scratch is down!)
:Could you mention some specific problems? There are inevitably going to be problems with, for example, people's userpages (e.g. my sidebar makes my userpage look bad in the vector skin), but what problems are you seeing? {{e|:)}} More people use ScratchWikiSkin, though, so at the end of the day more attention is going to be focused on that. Thanks!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:02, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::Random articles looked fine to me while using the vector skin, though I didn't look closely.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Whole pages have cut-off text on my Mac. <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 22:43, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::Which browser are you using? Also, could you post a screenshot?<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 22:47, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent}}I use Chrome, and I'll get up a screenshot soon. <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 13:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Scratch MIDI notes ==
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So, would an article about this be needed/cool to have?<br>{{User:Geometric_ghast/Signature}} 22:19, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
{{done|Done, though articles mentioning MIDI must be updated}}
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:I think that would be an intresting article, and would be ok to create.{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 01:22, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
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::Yeah, that sounds like a good idea <scratchsig>Jackson49</scratchsig> 15:00, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
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::Maybe it could go in an article about subdomains of Scratch? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 15:02, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
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:::uploads can do a lot more than the other subdomains, and is also a bit more notable, so i think it should have its own article<br>{{User:Geometric_ghast/Signature}} 22:41, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
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::::I think it should have its own article too<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 23:47, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
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:::::I think it should have its own article because it serves as an alternate server of scratch and stores all the images.{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 23:59, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
  
Everywhere I look says that [[MIDI]] has 128 notes, from 0 to 127. However, Scratch can play up to note 130 with the [[Play Note () for () Beats]] block, so I'm pretty confused. Does Scratch use MIDI? What is it doing? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 21:31, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
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== Disclaimers Page ==
:The Community Portal is a place to add questions or suggestions about the Wiki, not Scratch. You may want to ask this in the [[scratch:discuss/31|Advanced Topics]] forum. {{User:VFDan/Sig}} 01:37, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::VFDan, I interpreted the question as something they were asking so that they could ''improve'' the wiki, though I might be wrong. However, the talk page of that article may be a better place to ask.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:44, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:Scratch used MIDI until Scratch 2.0, and there are indeed 128 notes from 0 to 127. The notes would be synthesised by software on one's computer, and there are 128 General MIDI instruments. (It's also possible to use an electronic synthesiser, but I don't think that was ever an end-user feature.)
 
  
:Since Scratch 2 Scratch no longer uses MIDI, but offers 21 sampled instruments. (I think I read somewhere that the Scratch Team was dissatisfied with the MIDI synthesis offered by Flash, or something along those lines, but I don't remember the details so please don't take that as fact.) In Scratch 2 there are still only 128 notes, but Scratch 3 offers 131. Though as mentioned this discussion doesn't quite belong here.<scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 01:48, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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{{not done}}<br>
::Mostly I was asking so that I could update [[Template:MIDI Notes|this template]], but it might apply to other articles, especially if Scratch is no longer using MIDI. Should I move the discussion over there somehow? Although you answered it pretty well. Do you have any sources saying that Scratch doesn't use MIDI anymore? It would be really helpful.<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 01:56, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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In the English Scratch Wiki's footer, there is a disclaimers link at the bottom of the page under the legal category. It goes to [https://de.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Project:Impressum this] page in German. Is this intentional, and is there a english version of the page that should be put there instead?{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 01:00, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
:::[[topic:123358|Here's]] a topic, and there is the source code for [https://github.com/LLK/scratch-flash/blob/master/src/primitives/SoundPrims.as Scratch 2] and [https://github.com/LLK/scratch-vm/blob/develop/src/extensions/scratch3_music/index.js Scratch 3].<scratchsig>Jonathan50</scratchsig> 03:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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: It is in German, not Dutch, and the document is German because the Wiki's servers are in Germany. Also, there cannot be an English version because it is legally dangerous to translate legal documents. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 08:18, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
::::Thanks a ton! {{e|:)}} <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 14:09, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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::If there is an English translation, the Wiki could be legally protected by a clause similar to §14 of the Scratch [[Terms of Use]], like this:{{faq|cat=no|If the Scratch Wiki provides you with a translation of the German language version of these Disclaimers, or any other policy, then you agree that the translation is provided for informational purposes only and does not modify the German language version. In the event of a conflict between a translation and the German version, the German version will govern.}}<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 13:31, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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:::Yes, that about summarizes the situation. The original text in German is legally binding, while text in English would be informational only irrespective of any translation errors/miscommunications. While we can provide a page in English with a disclaimer that the German is the authoritative version, that would require we have someone translate it, and so far nobody has invested the necessary time.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 15:42, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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::::{{quote|google translate|somebody}}<br>{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 15:47, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
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:::::Google Translate is more inaccurate than manual translation. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 16:53, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
  
== Blocked Accounts ==
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== Why is there no page about text engine? ==
  
My account got blocked for reasons that I would not like to discuss here, is it still safe for me to be on the Wiki? <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 13:46, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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Why is there no page about the text engine? I am still new to scratch wiki. I don't know what do we focus on here yet.
:From [[Ban]]:
 
  
:"Although the Scratch Wiki is an official Scratch project, bans on the Scratch Website do not apply on the Wiki. However, if a user is banned on the Scratch Website and continues their behavior on the Wiki, then they will be banned until unbanned from the main site." So, I think you're probably okay {{e|:)}}.<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 14:01, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>Jenniferandjim</scratchsig> 01:58, 9 January 2021 (UTC)jenniferandjim
:::Thank you! I was wondering if I had to wait and wait and wait... <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 14:05, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
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:Welcome to the Scratch Wiki! There is an article about text engines [[Text_Rendering|here]]. <scratchsig>Jackson49</scratchsig> 19:35, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
  
== Where's the CSS cheatsheet? ==
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== A template marking Raspberry Pi features are only available on the Raspberry Pi ==
 
 
Title. <scratchsig>Garnetluvcookie</scratchsig> 15:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:Are you talking about [[Scratch Wiki:Cheatsheet]], or another cheatsheet? I'd assume another cheatsheet, because that's a wikitext cheatsheet (not a CSS cheatsheet), but it's the most common "cheatsheet" people think of on this wiki.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:25, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::: There's [[Help:CSS]]. Is there anything specific that you need help with? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 16:53, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Discussion Invitation System ==
 
{{not done}}
 
 
 
Hi folks! On the topic of reviving [[S:CPND]], I have another suggestion. My previous suggestion (collapsing discussions) got implemented, but it is a very minor change. As someone who usually updates the featured images, I was thinking about a discussion that I personally would like people to participate in, [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]]. That specific discussion has been going on since August 2018 and it hasn't yet come to a conclusion.
 
 
 
I think I've come up with something that may help solve the Not Done problem. Well, I didn't exactly come up with it, because I got the idea from Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:WP:Feedback request service|Feedback request service]]. As I understand it, with Wikipedia's Feedback request service, when a discussion needs an outside editor to provide comment, a bot comments on the talk page of someone who has added their name to the list. I'd like to make it clear: '''my suggestion would not require a bot.''' Wikipedia needs stuff like that because it's giant.
 
 
 
Basically, when a discussion is going stale or needs a few more editors to provide feedback, a proactive editor can comment the Discussion Invitation template (currently at [[User:Bigpuppy/Discussion Invitation System/Template]]) on a few user talk pages of people who have signed up to be invited to discussions.
 
 
 
Here are some examples of when this would be useful:
 
* For asking editors to participate in a [[S:CP]] or [[S:CPND]] discussion that has gone inactive or that has a deadline
 
* For asking editors their opinion on a discussion on the talk page of an article that only a few people are participating in
 
 
 
I think this will help with more than reviving [[S:CPND]], though {{-}} it will help on ''any'' discussion that isn't getting the attention it deserves.
 
 
 
I've decided to start this program up in my userspace, though if people like it maybe it can be moved to project space (the Scratch Wiki namespace). The list of people who have signed up is currently at [[User:Bigpuppy/Discussion Invitation System/List]] (as of writing, only me). If you'd like to sign up, please do!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:I think this is a great idea! <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 19:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::It could be a good idea, but I'm not sure that it's really matter. As you said before, Wikipedia is a big place and a lot of discussion creators in [[S:CPND]] is inactive/quitted Scratch. Also, I think a lot of the discussions are not necessary. For example, are you think "Secret Compliments" important today? Also, asqwde has been inactive since 8 months.
 
::I'm supporting main idea, also it can be helpful for usual stuffs, but also nobody cannot use it for old Not Done topics. Additionally, I suggest another idea; Scratch Wiki could have multiple portals. For example; Scratch Modifications portal, Extensions portal, etc. Maybe not for now, but it could be helpful when discussions are too much.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:03, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Well, I don't think that it matters that some people in [[S:CPND]] are inactive; that doesn't mean their discussions aren't relevant anymore. As for the discussions that you don't think are relevant anymore, like "Secret Compliments," you should discuss that in the appropriate section at [[S:CPND]] and make sure people agree with you. You could get people to add to the discussion on whether they are relevant anymore using the system I suggested {{e|;)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 20:08, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I just used the system on the talk pages of the two people (other than me) who signed up:
 
::::* [[User talk:Garnetluvcookie#Invitation to discussion]]
 
::::* [[User talk:Groko13#Invitation to discussion]]
 
::::Keep in mind that in the future, people would not message everyone on the list (because hopefully lots of people sign up!), but rather message the number of people that they need.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:26, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::I'm happy to see people using the system already! {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::Also, I added {{t|open userpage}} to all of the Discussion Invitation System pages except the template, so feel free to improve any of them!<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 19:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}Oh yes, I remember when I first suggested that. I was thinking about it recently actually - what a coincidence!
 
 
 
I would like to add my name to the list, however one quick thing: why do we link to our Scratch profiles and not our Wiki profiles, or perhaps our Wiki talk page? Surely linking to our userpage would make a lot more sense, unless there is a specific reasoning for not doing this that I am not understanding.
 
 
 
In any case, I think this is a fantastic idea. Glad to see it's working already! Thanks for taking this on, bigpuppy. :){{User:Drunken Sailor/Signature}} 15:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 
:Where do people link to their Scratch profiles? On the list page, we are using the {{t|user}} template, which adds a link to the user's userpage and talk page. {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 16:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== When are we planning to implement [[User:jvvg/sandbox|the new Flawed Article]]? ==
 
{{not done}}
 
 
 
Per title.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 01:13, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
:Maybe you should ask jvvg. Has there been a discussion about it elsewhere? I'm not sure if the article is finished yet.<scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 03:07, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
 
 
== More Featured Images! ==
 
 
 
{{not done}}
 
  
The featured images were just updated, so does anyone have any new suggestions for next time? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 03:58, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
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I think a template described in the header could be made and be placed on pages. Here is a mockup:
:Here's two images: [[:File:Transparent_Stamps.png|1]] and [[:File:Gobo_Keychain.jpg|2]]. I don't know if these have been used in the past or not. Maybe we should start keeping a list. Is there any rule against reusing images? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 03:37, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 
::If images have the {{t|featured}} template on them, they have been used before. That said, there may have been some times where we forgot to add that template.
 
::As for whether there's a rule against re-using images, I'm not sure, though I'm guessing the {{t|featured}} template doesn't support such a case currently.<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 17:06, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 
:::Okay, thanks! Before I thought that the template was only for WW articles. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 18:03, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== [[Special:Diff/149186|jvvg's "temporary" solution]] ==
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{{Header Template|[[File:WMCommonsRaspberryPi4.jpg|100px]]|This feature is only available on the [[Raspberry Pi]] version of Scratch 3.0 offline. No other version has it.}}
{{not done|It will be solved asap, thanks to jvvg}}
 
[https://futuresight.org/wikiaccountrequest It is] still working. I'm not sure that I can request an account with the link (I'm not using another user).{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 15:11, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Should we delete never used bot accounts? ==
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Although it might fall under fair use, the image in my mockup could be replaced with the Raspberry Pi logo.
  
For example: [[user:Tweaker]], [[user:ThisIsAnAccount]], [[user:Bot807]]. They had never used, or in a few edits with a human edit. So, I think to send a message to developers of the bots.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 12:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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The template can make it clearer that the main version of Scratch does not contain such feature, and could prevent confusion that it does not exist outside the Raspberry Pi. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 08:52, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
: [[Special:RequestAccount]] says that Wiki accounts cannot be deleted. Also, some of those bot accounts' owners might be inactive on Scratch. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 15:10, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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:The image is licensed under Creative Commons, granting us license to use it provided we attribute the original source (fair use is not relevant here). As for whether or not to use the template, I'm personally fine with it but let's see what some other people think too.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 16:37, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
::I'm talking about ban accounts or we should say "this bot is inactive". For example, look at here: [[wikipedia:Template:Retired]]{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 15:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
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::{{done|Support}}, I think it's fine and important since the code for Raspberry Pi's Scratch is closed source as far as I know.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:20, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

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Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Done.
Updated the list as the author.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Updated!
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Updated.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 14:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Logging server faults

No Never Done

See dedicated subpage
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Change external Scratch links to interwiki links automatically

Yes Done
It could be helpful. So, I suggest it.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
15:23, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

TemplatesFTW already does that; or do you mean a different way of automating it? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:02, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Do you mean that you don't have to use the external link markup when linking a scratch profile, ect...? That could be helpful...
ContourLines Logo.png ContourLines Talk | Contributions | Directory 06:57, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
@ContourLines — you already don't have to use the external markup. In fact, S:STYLE says not to use the external link markup (see #internal-scratch-links). You can use [[users:USERNAME]] for users, [[studios:ID]] for studios, and [[projects:ID]] for projects. Ahmetlii suggested to change external links to these interwiki links automatically, then I said that TemplatesFTW already does it. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:50, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
I actually proposed the Scratch Links and added it to S:STYLE (: Anyway, I didn't see that TemplatesFTW does that, yea, I think it was good to add it to the bot.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  03:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Ahmetlii, I think this is Yes Done; is that correct? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:21, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

How do I make a fill width CSS for SWS2

As per title.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  21:11, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! September 24th, 2020

Welcome to the 32nd Thankful Thursday! September 24th, 2020.

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Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

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Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for everything you've done to help the Wiki ;-;
    Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  16:24, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Without a doubt, you've been an amazing administrator around the wiki. Especially with patrolling these days with a lot of edits in Recent Changes, it takes a lot of work and effort. I don't know what I'd do without your help. Thank you!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for literally spamming activity on the Wiki and also for thanking millions of people, that's some gratitude and effort.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 14:15, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for being so active! We appreciate editors like you! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • A big thanks to you for your activity, keep going! I also really like the blur effect you incorporated in your header. :)
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
ThatOneWeirdDude (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your edits recently! I'm glad you decided to join the wiki! I hope you decide to continue! :D
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
VFDan (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your recent contributions, such as those to discussions! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Naleksuh (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for making so many constructive edits to the wiki! It is clear that you have a talent for editing, so thank you for using that talent to help the Scratch Wiki. (Thanks also for your help in upgrading MediaWiki!) :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your massive amounts of bold contributions, we really appreciate what you are doing here. You've been a great editor!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
12944qwerty (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for your constructive contributions to discussions! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your work with Wiki Wednesday and other initiatives such as the New User Recommendations program! :D
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for being such an intuitive SW member - always finding new ideas to improve it, introducing new tactics, and being an awesome helper in general!
    -unsigned comment by Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs)
4096bits (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for all your edits! Even though you just started this month, you are already proving yourself as a helpful member of our community. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your many contributions lately! Keep it up!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you so much for being consistently active and helpful. You're a wonderful editor and community member! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • All throughout the year, you have been active and cooperative. Thank you for your dedication to the wiki!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)
  • I can't thank you enough for your work patrolling and reviewing account requests. You bring a friendly and upbeat attitude to the wiki, and it's been great working with you. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Petition to add an auto-thank feature for absolutely amazing people
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 14:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Am395397 (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for the interesting food for thought you posted on my talk page (for those who haven't seen it, it is here and here). :P
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
banana439monkey (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your work as an Experienced Wikian; I and others appreciate you! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs)
  • Welcome back, and thanks for your edits recently! You are greatly appreciated as a Scratch and Scratch Wiki community member. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Ayyy, you're back and already contributing a lot! Thank you for your edits!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Leahcimto (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your edits and activity recently! I hope you are having fun editing the wiki, since your edits are greatly appreciated. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Apple502j (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for being such a large help in finding and fixing vulnerabilities, and for being a great Experienced Wikian! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for helping with those Recent Changes issues people were having, and generally thank you for all of the technical help apart from mere edits too!
    -unsigned comment by Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs)
jakel181 (talk | contribs)
  • As always, thanks for running Thankful Thursday and helping the wiki in other ways, such as by reviewing account requests. Everyone here appreciates you! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for being my humorous friend who trolled me using German and English! I'll never forgot that!
    -unsigned comment by Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs)
ArtsyStrawberry (talk | contribs)
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for everything you've done for the wiki, from the day you joined to today. I'm glad that you decided to join the wiki, since you're an integral part of our community. It's great that you've found time to help us out even during your studies, though I know you are aware that at this point in time your studies are much more important than editing the wiki. ;)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • You spend so much effort on taking care of the Wiki, it's honestly mesmerizing. It's hard to keep your focus on thing like that, and you take care of it so much and help sooo many people. You're amazing!
    -unsigned comment by Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs)
Dominic305 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for being so active recently! You are greatly appreciated as an editor and person. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for helping me with that Recent Changes bug!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 14:52, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Illusion705 (talk | contribs)
jvvg (talk | contribs)
  • I'm not sure what the wiki would do without you. And I'm not just saying that to be nice; I'm really not sure what the wiki would do without you. The fact that you've been contributing impeccable edits, code, and admin work to the wiki since 2012—with little to nothing except the joy of contributing in return—is admirable. This is made even more impressive by the fact that you now have a job and are still active. I think I can speak for all editors when I say thank you. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Whenever I need help or I need some bureaucrat action, you're pretty much always available to respond. You've dedicated so much time to the wiki, I can't thank you enough for it!
    TenType (talk | contribs) 03:41, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for making sure the wikis have a home. Wonderful things happen here, and you make them possible. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:59, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
NYCDOT (talk | contribs)
Jammum (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for being so active, suggesting so many things on the Community Portal, editing many pages, and participating in so many discussions! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 04:02, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for writing this comment. I feel it is very well-written, and has a calm and respectful demeanor. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 04:09, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


The next TT is, October 29th, see you then!

Yes Done
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
12:28, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

wow big thanks
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  12:43, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
Whoa! Thanks! :)
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 13:06, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Merge Check users and Supressors user groups with bureaucrats or administrators

Except for the Interface Admin user group, two other user groups were added in the new MediaWiki upgrade. They are mentioned in the title of this topic. I think those groups are unnecessary and could be merged and have their rights moved to other usergroups.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 05:24, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

These were actually removed already removed in 28, but were inadvertently restored by the upgrade. However, I personally feel like they should not be removed for a number of reasons:
1) CheckUser and Suppressor inherently mean access to confidential information, which is usually specifically mentioned in the privacy policy. Voting in users for bureaucrat should not typically result in access to private information.
2) Users who have access to such information generally are scrutinized much more than users who do not. Suppressors need to deal with PII like real names, home addresses, and anything else like that. It is not the role of a bureaucrat to handle stuff like that.
3) Scratch Wiki has a tendency to treat user groups like a hierarchy (i.e. Bureaucrat is better than sysop, which is better than Experienced Wikian). I think that these three new user groups help remove this bad aura.
4) Bureaucrat does not have an age requirement, but I do not want minors to have access to the information that CheckUsers and Suppressors do.
There are a number of other reasons as well that they should not be merged, but this is just off the top of my head. Comments about Interface admin can be directed to a couple threads above this, which I assume Jammum has seen.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 05:37, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
For your last statement, literally 99% of users are under the age of 18. I'm a minor, and I feel extremely offended by this comment. It just enforces a stereotype that everyone under the age of 13 is dumb. Also, it wouldn't be a fair opportunity for everyone. I know that admins are encouraged to have access to the discord server, but it is not mandatory.
For your 2nd statement, there isn't much personal info on my (and everyone else's) account. As long as you trust (or the majority trusts) the user, you'll be fine.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  12:38, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't see anything about 'all people under 13 are dumb' in the post above yours. Also there is definently personal info in our accounts - I wouldn't really want people to be able to see my email address.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
15:56, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Support to @Dominic305. There's also a legal side; we must ensure that someone is not using emails for email hacking or phishing - that's why we must give these roles to people that older 13 (for juridical capacity) and trusted users by the community. This doesn't mean that people under 13 is dumb, but that's risky - give a user that does not have juridical capacity may make unwanted legal consequences.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
16:13, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
After reading these, I have a proposal. There should be 2 bureaucrat ranks. One for users under the age of 13, and one for users over the age of 13. If a user is elected or appointed bureaucrat, and they happen to be underage, they would get a similar rank to normal bureaucrat but the permissions regarding the viewing and changing of personal information would be removed. This wouldn't be publicised unless the user does it themselves.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  18:09, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Imho nobody needs to have those perms. And just because somebody is over 13, they're automatically not going to do anything malicious with the emails? I signed up with my personal email, and I don't want anybody to know my name (I prefer anonymity). Besides, how would you know they are 13? I can easily say I'm 22, although that's a blatant lie. How would allowing any user group to view emails benefit the wiki?
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  20:44, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

First of all, the age in question would be 18 and not 13 as 13-year-olds are still minors and are not legally able to sign non-disclosure agreements (although they are able to be bound by privacy policies). Also, I think that simply having two groups based on age only (halfway) solves one of the issues at hand and does not solve any of the others. For example, one could be granted CheckUser/Supressor and not bureaucrat; or bureaucrat and not CheckUser/Suppressor. The two groups should not be merged into bureaucrat, and I think that having seperate groups for users who are over or under 13 is simply problematic, discriminatory, and does not solve the issues at all.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 20:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
To VFDan, while asking for a users' birthday is sufficient for COPPA compliance, for access to confidential information, proof of legal identification is usually required, and lying about the age would immediately be found out.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 20:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
If the age would be 18, then let's just get rid of literally every single admin or EW! I have a hunch that almost every EW/Admin is under 18, leaving the very few 18+ admins to do all the work. Many adults have jobs to do, and that explains their activity.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  21:16, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
I agree that no one should need to see user emails.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
14:42, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Support (for merging groups). We don't need more groups, and most of the bureaucrats can view any content stored in a database. Also we don't have a way to confirm their age.
It's also important to see what is "confidential" - I am not sure if we ever used "suppress". We always used normal revision delete, and I am not sure if there is any information that should be hidden from admins. (note: EWs can't view deleted revisions) There are variety of things removed from a page - mostly email and social media/chat website links, and "hiding vandalism". Email or chat website links, IMO, aren't confidential enough to require suppression. Only certain PIIs like home addresses, phone numbers or social security numbers would need suppression, and I personally have never seen someone putting their home address on this wiki. Hiding vandalism is just to prevent name-and-shame by the viewers of the Wiki. If you think they should be oversighted, then we should fire admins that do bad things instead.
There could be some legal reasons to use oversighting but I honestly don't think that'll happen. As far as I know, there is no law that enforces us to remove links to social media.
While IP address could be considered confidential, again, I don't think there is a reason to have separate group.
Naleksuh mentioned that current system is like a hierarchy - and that is true. However, this is supposed to happen. Bureaucrats have more privileges than admins because they are responsible for maintaing all Scratch Wikis. They are like stewards in Wikimedia wikis. Administrators have basic privileges for managing one wiki, and EWs help admins, easier to obtain (than admins) but with less privileges.
I probably should also mention one more thing - currently, there is only one active bureaucrat. If we have groups for CheckUser and suppression, it is kinda obvious that there will be less CheckUsers than bureaucrats, especially with an age requirement. However, both CUs and suppressors are essential (if we actually use them, which we never did for suppressors) when fighting vandalism.
I understand that we are not Wikipedia - but given that the whole idea of suppressor and checkuser groups came from Wikimedia wikis, I think we shouldn't forget this fact: Stewards can use both CheckUser and Oversight. Stewards are people who assign groups, and help people cross-wiki. There is one existing group that basically does the same job, on Scratch Wikis, which is bureaucrat. Bureaucrats (with some exceptions, if any) have access to all Scratch Wikis, as bureaucrats, and can modify the database and the files at will, and have full control over Scratch Wikis.
This discussion could be bumped when we introduce actual per-wiki bureaucrats. However, we don't have them yet, so for now there is no use for separate user groups.
Also one note: who is minor and who isn't, totally depends on the country.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 08:28, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Apple, no one cares about age. Ken has been a bureaucrat since he was 14. Me, an EW since 14. All of us started being an EW as minors, and some bureaucrats and administrators. Suppression is hiding edit summaries. Email and chat are very confidential and should be removed. Not all bureaucrats are on all wikis.
Banana439monkey.png banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,137)) 11:08, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
No, giving minors access to legally confidential information contains legal problems to no end. The "we don't have a way to confirm their age" further confirms a lack of understanding. As Banana said, the information here is not simply hiding vandalism or certain edit summaries and may not under any circumstances be made available to non-functionaries. Merge No Not done
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 18:05, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

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I'm not sure what you mean by "legally confidential information". There are some information that are definitely confidential - like social security number, but I've never seen them posted on the wiki. PIIs are probably included in that category, but I don't think it's a common problem. Emails and IP addresses may be considered as PII. Note that links to social media, common reason of per-revision deletion, are mostly banned for moderation reasons; There is little to no reason to use oversight for those.
Of those confidential information, which are legally confidential, and which cause legal problems when accessed by minors? I do not know details on German laws, but if I remember correctly, GDPR did not enforce such restrictions (or am i wrong?)
This is a technical fact that I am sure it's correct: "suppression" and "oversight" have the same meaning. Suppression includes suppressing revision, edit summary, log, etc.
To be honest, I don't think we are legally required to remove "confidential information" - without requests from them. Wiki contents are intended to be public, so submitting contents would mean agreeing to make them public. There may be some legal cases where this doesn't apply, but I'm sure we (most of the time) remove confidential information to reduce harm (to them) caused by making them public, and is not because of legal obligations.
We probably can restrict access to raw IP address because I don't think we ever used them - we just need to confirm that two accounts are owned by the same IP.
Also, remember that even Wikimedia has exemptions to age requirement!
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 09:50, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I don't really see a need for somebody knowing my email. There is absolutely no reason to know any PIIs besides the IP address.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  13:43, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
Email is not exposed to CUs/Suppressors, unless you write it on the wiki pages, which is probably your fault.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 00:52, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Minor Grammatical Issue in Footer

It says "Privacy policy" instead of Privacy Policy. Should not this be fixed?
R4356th (talk | contribs) 17:00, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

It's same though and I think that it should not be capitalized because of it's a general title (bundled with MediaWiki).
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
It's capitalized on Scratch though
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:04, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Should we copy everything on Scratch's footer to here? There are a lot of links there that aren't here....
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:05, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
This is not a "grammatical issue" or something that must be "fixed"-- capitalization like that is common, but Scratch Wiki has the idea of Capitalizing Everything Ever. For example, the default capitalization for Special:RecentChanges is Recent chamges, but was changed on Scratch Wiki to Recent changes. As for copying over the Scratch footer, a rewrite of ScratchWikiSkin into ScratchWikiSkin3 was proposed on Discord, but I do not know if that is happening. Currently, the skin uses various MediaWiki messages, usually introducing new ones, but sometimes using existing ones, which I would guess Privacy policy is one of those cases.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 20:48, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

November Featured Images

Yes Done

I just updated the featured images with suggestions from the CP. Does anyone have any ideas for the next set of featured images (which will come at the end of October or the beginning of November)? If so, please post them here. Thanks! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 03:50, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

How about File:Report.PNG?
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  11:50, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
I suggest File:Change profile pic.png. :)
@garnetluvcookie That image doesn't exist, do you mean File:Report Screen.PNG?
TenType (talk | contribs) 22:23, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
yes, I do, I just have the worst short term memory ever :P
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  23:14, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
I suggest File:Scratch Team.jpg or File:Join Flow 7.png.
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 12:45, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Is there an archive where all the previous images are listed ?
-unsigned comment by Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs) 10:57, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
Heh, sorry it took so long for me to update them. I added File:Report Screen.PNG, File:Change profile pic.png, and File:Scratch Team.jpg. If you think anything should be changed (like one of the descriptions), please let me know. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 18:39, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Scratcheur-2020Send, check out Category:Featured Articles/Images (scroll down to "Media in category 'Featured Articles/Images'"). :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 18:41, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

A proposal for talk page formatting

No Not done
So when we edit on talk pages, we seem to just keep indenting over and over, without any logic. I was thinking we could instead indent to show who we are replying to, sort of like this example. It would more clearly show who each person is talking to and clear up confusion. New posts would still go below old posts, but instead under what you're replying to. I'm pretty bad at explaining so you can ask for any clarification. What are your thoughts?
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
01:28, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

An idea similar to (or the same as) this idea has been suggested before, back in 2017 (wow, time flies!). I just thought I'd point that out so you could read the discussion. Also, a system where you indent to show who you're replying to is already used in some discussions by several users (see #RfC about the usage of fixed with in ScratchWikiSkin2 for an example); but it isn't the most used system, I suppose. :)
Also, this is nitpicking at semantics, but I would disagree with your statement that our current most popular system is "without any logic"; the very fact that users following the convention must indent one : more than the previous post gives it logic. However, again, this is nitpicking. ;)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 01:57, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
It seems that no one ever actually came to a decision, so maybe I'll invite some people to this discussion?
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
14:10, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
Hmm... I agree that there is no logical order in which we indent currently, but the alternative proposal you're suggesting also will get very complicated for longer topics. You wouldn't know who you're replying to. (This is just in my head, I'm not sure if this will work or not, my imagination says it's not going to work but I can't be so sure :D )
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  17:40, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
We could still use things like "@kaj: Why did you hack my friend?" and stuff to prevent confusion.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
18:05, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
We could just do a template like Wikipedia's "talk page" template. Anyway, nobody cannot force someone for something, so the best thing is explanation.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
18:39, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
IMO this is more confusing than the current system; we should just keep indenting the way we do now. Using stuff like "@kaj: please don't hack me I didn't do anything wrong" is more clear IMO. And often you might not be replying to anyone in particular, so where do you put it then?
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  14:32, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
I'm not saying we completely ditch @ing people. As for not replying in particular, that would be indent level 0.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
15:36, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────This seems more confusing for me in long topics, even with using @mention in every message. For short topics, this wouldn't be too confusing, but overall, I disagree with this idea. These are just my thoughts though; maybe we could make this technique less complex for long topics?
TenType (talk | contribs) 22:18, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

LEGO BOOST Page

We have pages about the Raspberry PI system, the LEGO WeDo Construction Set system, but I'm noticing we don't have one about LEGO BOOST. I have a very less knowledge about this stuff (as always), so could somebody please take the effort to create a page containing all the information? Thanks.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 17:10, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Actually, we already have one at LEGO BOOST Extension, unless you mean something else. :)
Groko13 Logo.png Groko13 / talk / contribs 20:49, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
No — do you notice the red link labelled "LEGO BOOST"? Unless I'm misinterpreting it, there should be page related to what that is and how it's related to the extension. For example, the Raspberry Pi has a page about it's Scratch extension but also about it's hardware and how it's relevant to Scratch.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 12:27, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Capitalization issue with 3.0 blocks

Hey folks, I've been working on a project to fix and improve the LEGO BOOST extension for a while now and it's complete, but while I was doing it I noticed an issue with the 3.0 blocks on the Wiki: all of the lowercase "i"s kept turning into a capital "i" and in the code it was still lowercase. I don't know if this is a known issue, but it could be misleading.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 12:25, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Missing Discussions

Hello, everyone! After creating the 109th Community Portal archive, I moved quite a few discussions to Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done. One upside of this is to prevent premature archiving of the CP. If you're wondering where a discussion went, it was probably either archived or moved to Not Done. Please also consider contributing to some of the discussions in Not Done! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:16, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Reminder

I’d like to remind y’all (no, I’m not from Kentucky or near there) that you shouldn’t assume others gender, even from their mediawiki preferences. For example, I have my gender set as “female” in my settings, though I don’t use female pronouns. It’s always best to ask someone for their pronouns, or just use the neutral pronoun “they”.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  03:36, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I definitely agree that you shouldn't assume others' pronouns; however, I'm not sure how referring to someone based on their MediaWiki preferences is doing that. The MediaWiki preferences actually don't use the words "male," "female," etc.; they explicitly ask about your pronouns. So, if someone has that preference set as "she," for instance, then I don't think that referring to them as "she" is "assuming their gender." Of course, if someone prefers to be called something other than what is listed on that page, then users should use what they prefer instead, but then they probably wouldn't change the preference from the default (as you called it, "neutral") option ("they"). Could you please clarify why you think that referring to someone based on the pronouns they have said they prefer to be described as is "assuming their gender"? Thank you. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 03:58, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I’m pretty sure that that changed during the update, and plus the mw magic word is gender, so misconceptions can be made. Also, I’d like to also not that someone’s gender identity doesn’t always have to line up with their pronouns (for example, I identify as a cis female and present myself irl as feminine, but I prefer gender neutral pronouns on the internet because my internet “persona” is way more different than I act in real life.)
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  04:06, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I’d also like to note as a “straight” and “cis” ally, though this isn’t used anymore, he/she or she/he is not an OK substitute for the perfectly fine gender neutral pronoun “they”.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  04:11, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
  • "I’m pretty sure that that changed during the update, ..."
    • Are you 100% sure about that? We shouldn't assume whether it did or not. Anyhow, we can get confirmation on this.
  • "... and plus the mw magic word is gender, so misconceptions can be made."
    • Misconceptions can be made about anything. You just need to clear them up so they don't get made again. The purpose of that preference is so that the software knows how to correctly refer to you, so saying that you shouldn't use it as a guide to know how to refer to users goes against the point of it.
  • "Also, I’d like to also not that someone’s gender identity doesn’t always have to line up with their pronouns (for example, I identify as a cis female and present myself irl as feminine, but I prefer gender neutral pronouns on the internet because my internet “persona” is way more different than I act in real life.)"
    • This is irrelevant here. As I said, the purpose of that preference is so that the software knows how to correctly refer to you, and hence it explicitly asks about your pronouns. If someone represents that preference as anything else, they are misrepresenting the preference.
  • "I’d also like to note as a 'straight' and 'cis' ally, though this isn’t used anymore, he/she or she/he is not an OK substitute for the perfectly fine gender neutral pronoun 'they'."
    • I agree, but that's a different issue; why are you bringing it up here?
My points are not meant to sound harsh (I'm sorry if they do), but I'm just trying to make sure that the purpose of that preference is being addressed. Again, I agree that you shouldn't assume others' pronouns, but I disagree that using this preference to refer to someone is doing so. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 04:22, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I get your points, but as someone who has many queer friends who feel strongly about this and so do I, (pardon me if I sound odd or rude, I’m a bit sleepy) and I just wanted to bring it up as a friendly reminder because it’s never OK to assume one’s gender, and in modern times we need to learn that. My opinions may be a bit biased, but you get the point.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  04:30, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Now you're changing the topic of what we're discussing. We're not discussing whether it's okay to assume users' genders (or assume users' pronouns); I think we both agree that it's never okay to do that. What we're discussing is whether using someone's pronoun preferences to refer to them is assuming their pronouns; and I don't think that referring to someone as "he" (for example) if they have selected that they prefer to be referred to as "he" is doing that. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 04:37, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
I get it now. Since it’s almost 1 AM where I am and I literally don’t have the mental energy to go in depth about anything, I’m going to call this done. if you have other concerns, feel free to contact me on my talk page sine I’ll still have this on until I fall asleep involuntarily. (Wikipedia editor moment)
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  04:51, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Alright, let's make it official: Yes Done. Have a good rest of your night. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 04:55, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

"Becoming a Scratcher" section

I'm going to make a section on either Scratcher or New Scratcher about how you become a Scratcher (with images for each slide of the process). Which article should I do it on?
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
11:29, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

I would say on Scratcher but make a section in New Scratcher summarizing the how-to.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:05, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
So something like this?
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
15:17, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
Yes, like that...
You don't have to link a difference externally, you can just do Special:Diff/273783...
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:23, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

What should I do if...

Yes Done

What should I do if someone posts a message on my talk page just in the middle of nowhere with no subject or anything, just a message? (It still has a sig)
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 20:11, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

You can create a title for it and you can say "Message from ...".
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:16, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Ok, thanks!
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 20:22, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
I would say that you could just read the text, and make a subject based on that. The header is used for others to know what the basis of the conversation would be about.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  20:37, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
@12944qwerty: if it's not included a clear subject, my suggestion may be the preferred; I think.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:47, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Agreed I guess. A message, if not clear, could just say "Message from ..." but I doubt that would happen often...
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:30, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Making search boxes

Yes Done
Is there a way to make search boxes in the Scratch Wiki, like the one on top of the CP, except with the "Try exact match" button and the line break before the buttons?
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 21:26, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

The Try Exact Match button is part of the input box. After playing around with the <inputbox> tag, I found that the type of type=search2 will give the Exact match button. type=search gives both buttons.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:42, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Alright, thanks.
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 14:22, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Boi wut

Yes Done
[1]
There's a glitch that allows Scratchers to see dustbin topics, using 'Report Post'. Would it be notable enough if others can do it to include in the Dustbin forum topic article? Try it yourself with this link.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
11:28, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

But you don't see the topic.....
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:31, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
True, though you can see the title.
GrahamSH (talk | contribs) 13:47, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Does the title really matter though? I would think that the discussion would be more important.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  14:19, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
I don't know, it probably wouldn't be any good. I kinda just wanted to show everyone because I thought it was interesting, without people saying it's off-topic...
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
14:42, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
I clicked the link again and now it says 'Spam Dustbin'. I do not see any mentions of 'Spam Dustbin', I only see 'Dustbin'. Does anyone have more information on this?
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
17:02, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Error while viewing GIF

Every time I try to load a thumbnail of the file File:Rickroll.gif, it displays this error:
"Error creating thumbnail: convert: memory allocation failed `/tmp/transform_177876bbf04e.gif' @ error/quantize.c/QuantizeImage/2653. convert: memory allocation failed `/tmp/transform_177876bbf04e.gif' @ error/gif.c/WriteGIFImage/1693. Error code: 1"
Can someone help me? Thanks.
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 17:32, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm getting this error for only the thumbnails. The main gif at the top of the screen works perfectly fine for me
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  16:14, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
Yewh, when I uploaded the image the wiki was running slow; also it's a big file so that's most likely a big part of the cause.
You just got RickRolled
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
01:57, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Is this a bug or what

In the www version (this link), it appears that you are signed out, but remove the www, you're signed in? Is this a bug, glitch, or something I missed because I'm now on the main site?
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  19:54, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

@garnetluvcookie: It's probably proposed as a redirect to the main subdomain (en.scratch-wiki.info) but however; since MediaWiki handles for only a subdomain, it's kinda unnecessary right now. The all links from www subdomain will be redirected to the main subdomain. It's not a bug nor a glitch neither a missed thing. You can also see the same thing on www.scratch.mit.edu . The fact is www subdomains are unused in most of the websites in the Internet, but the website bureaucrats redirects them to main domain/subdomain for preventing confusion.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:07, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
That's because the cookies are only saved for the domain for which they are issued, and www.en.scratch-wiki.info and en.scratch-wiki.info are different domains. We would strongly encourage just using en.scratch-wiki.info (without the www) to avoid such issues.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:18, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Subject glitch

If you can see from this image, if you hover over the "Subject" line when making a new section, a tooltip will appear about summaries, not subjects.
Can someone fix this? Thanks :)
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 21:51, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

There is no problem here, the subject box is for writing a "summary" of your post.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
01:54, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

New ScratchSig is deployed!

A few weeks ago, Naleksuh suggested we should develop a new ScratchSig since the old one was woefully out of date and generally a kind of hacky extension (some of you may recall the XSS vulnerability discovered a while ago). Naleksuh and I have developed a newer version of the extension that is now deployed here. The only obvious difference should be that the image does not have a border on it anymore and that userpages/talk pages that do not exist appear as redlinks since those are now rendered as wikitext instead of raw HTML. This also does finally properly handle usernames with underscores, and you can enter the username either with spaces or underscores, depending on which you prefer, and the icon will display properly. Also, for users that do not exist, the icon simply will not display.

Examples representing the situations I mentioned above:


jvvg test (talk | contribs)

jvvg_test (talk | contribs)

this user cannot exist %% (talk | contribs)

Additionally, there have been some behind the scenes changes. We took a much more defensive approach to the design of the extension to avoid any future XSS attacks or similar. We also added a much better caching system using the MediaWiki object cache. For comparison, the older version was still using a kind of janky caching system added over two years ago that was intended to be temporary.

Please post a reply here if you notice any issues. And of course I need to actually sign my post even though this is a post about scratchsig.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:38, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Slight fix to jobs

I have fixed an issue with jobs. After the upgrade, we were not able to run jobs in the background, so we had to attach them to requests at random (i.e. each page load had some chance of having a job processed as part of handling the request). This caused somewhat of a slowdown and also meant that jobs didn't always run as quickly as would have been ideal. Now, jobs are run by a cron job that runs separately from any request. This should result in a slight performance improvement.

That's all. Other than that, nothing should change.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:35, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Haven't jobs been broken for a long time lol?
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  01:16, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
One specific job was broken for a long time, and that was fixed with the upgrade. Other jobs were working as expected. However, the ability to run jobs at all was broken by the upgrade (or at least the ability to run them via a cron job, so we had to attach them to requests again). However, this has all been fixed.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:33, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Table of contents

Hey everyone. I've seen on some pages that they have a table of contents. How do I get that to appear? Sorry for the short section.
8bitjake (talk | contribs) 15:09, 22 October 2020 (UTC)8bitjake

They will automatically generate if the page has enough content.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
15:17, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Give the right of deletion of messages on their own talk pages to users

For example, here is a good example of it in Wikipedia: here. I think that the system also may work fine on Scratch Wiki. Although this rules are against to deletion of talk pages, this might be good for users whose do not want to archive (though it's accessible from history).
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
12:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

I don't really think this is a good idea. For one, I wouldn't want to write up a message and then have a user just delete it because they feel like it. Also, the messages should be kept for reference purposes in the future. So I don't really like this idea.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
12:52, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
But the messages are always accessible through history, because we're not allowing to the deletion of page.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
12:57, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
But it's far easier to go to a subpage than to dig through page history.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
15:07, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
No, you can just filter from date and user contribs. That shouldn't be hard.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
15:11, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
"shouldn't be hard" on a small talk page sure, but not on large ones. I hated on wikipedia where I made a post on a talk page and someone else (not even the owner of the talk page!) removed saying it was incorrect. I added it back and then the actual owner of the talk page removed it. It was very blantant plagiarism (word for word copied). Stuff like this shouldn't happen. No support.
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:51, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
When someone removes a message from their talk page, you may take that as an indication that they have read the message. Talk page owners should be allowed to remove messages from them. If your objection is simply to the message being removed and nothing else, that is not something that is problematic when either the message violates policy or it is being removed by the owner of the talk page. If the objection is that removing the message is an attempt at avoiding scruntiny, you are free to take any actions that you would otherwise if the message was not removed, such as reverting or raising complaints at /Admin Requests. Therefore, there is no reason to prevent removal of messages from the owner's talk page. While waiting until time has passed then archiving them may be preferred and is done on public venues such as this page, there is no need to require that.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 20:07, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Re-RFC for S:NOSP

I think that we must edit restrictions about mods and user generated content. For example: we shouldn't create an another namespace for user-generated content, the users are already creating them on their subpages. And it must be possible to delete old and not notable mod pages.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
07:44, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I think that the date the page is created is irrelevant. Either the subject is notable, or it is not.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 02:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Updating all the blocks categorys footer to 3.0 mode

Hey folks ! This was the current pen extension footer :

What the 3.0 version will be :

Please vote Yes Yes if you want this to be changed or No No if you don't want below ! I will take decision the 1st of november.
Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs)19:05, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

I am not voting, but I think EW+ (users that are Experienced Wikians or above) should have the final decision of this. Although, if your second design is chosen, the other block categories might need to be updated to reflect that design
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:48, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
Yes, i know about that... the pen footer was just a preview exemple :)
-unsigned comment by Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs) 08:21, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
" EW+ (users that are Experienced Wikians or above) should have the final decision of this" No, wikis resolve around consensus and it is not the role of Experienced Wikians to ignore that. Unless this was in reference to the "I will take decision the 1st of november." comment by OP, in which case I agree OP should not close the discussion as they are involved as the proposer.
As for the content change in question, I think the old version is better both as there is no need to embed a block there and the "This block was a Pen Extension Block" sentence makes no sense in this context as it is the title for the navbox, not a part of the page body.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 02:02, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Basically what Naleksuh said, I vote no; it's way overbloated and takes away from the article. No support
VFDan.png VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
No No support for the reasons Naleksuh and VFDan stated. I also think the current footer works fine, and if anything should be updated there, it would just be changing the color to match the 3.0 blocks.
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 20:51, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Why is there Language Tutorials?

No Not done

So, there's this, which has other programming language tutorials. This is kind of weird, especially in the Scratch Wiki. I know the "comparing other programming languages with Scratch" thing, but they could just link to other programming language websites. Lovecodeabc Links: talk | profile | contributions | directory 00:27, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

The Language Tutorials here also compare the code to Scratch code, making it a better starting point for people trying to transition.
And I spent a solid amount of time on the C++ tutorials...
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
14:41, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Edit: added not done. Also, add more tutorials? Lovecodeabc Links: talk | profile | contributions | directory 00:27, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

The language tutorials was a project that we started a long time ago in order to increase the diversity of topics and more solidly provide people with suggestions for post-Scratch programming experiences.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 02:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Some interesting stats on the language program. Since its conception in August 2018 we've pulled in approx. 2600 organic viewers for the page. When you look at the graph there are a few days when editors are working on it which increases total count (blue) vs. organic count (orange). Overall I think the program has a lot of potential to pull in a stable organic user page as it continues to expand.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 02:53, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! October 29th, 2020

Welcome to the 33rd Thankful Thursday! October 29th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for all that you do on the Wiki! Also, thanks for always answering my questions when I ask them! You're an amazing administrator on the Wiki :D Keep up the great work!
    Illusion705's User Logo1.png   Illusion705 talk | contribs  00:20, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for being so full of empathy and care for others! You're always so kind, and you make such big contributions to both Scratch and the Scratch Wiki all the time. It's truly a miracle how kind you can be sometimes, and thank you for being such an amazing member of the Wiki!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your countless helpful edits to the Wiki!
    Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,769)  Scratch  Directory 
    11:16, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for helping to shape the wiki to where it is now!
    Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  00:38, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for being here for so long and helping us out so much! Unfortunately, I had to remove TenType's version of your canned summaries code since I never really used it much and it was starting to get annoying, but still, thank you for making such a helpful additional feature!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Naleksuh (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for being a helpful contributor!
    Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  00:38, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you so much for fixing my mistakes and also generally helping out so much on the Wiki! You're so consistent when editing and are so dedicated to it, it's honestly amazing.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs)
jvvg (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for helping us for so long!
    Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  00:38, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • WOW, man, you've helped us for so many years and are still going! You can still be so helpful and knowledgeable after all this time, and it's honestly amazing.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for all of your helpful actions in the Wiki.
    Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
    15:02, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for helping to update the Scratch Wiki and providing updates for the progress of the update!
    4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 19:47, 5 October 2020 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for making so many edits and being such an amazing Experienced Wikian (my dear question friend)! You've always helped me so much, even in recent times, and I think Thankful Thursday will always be incomplete without you in the list. Also, I removed your version of Kenny's canned summaries code since it was starting to get rather annoying and it I never really used it, but still, thank you for putting the effort into improving such an helpful feature! *cough cough* anyway, this doesn't mean i'm not going to bombard you with more questions-
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Jammum (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for making so many contributions and always being on Recent Changes! You're in my top list of most consistent contributors, and it's really unbelievable how dedicated some can be!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:18, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs)
  • Ahh, you're starting to become such a big part of the community and you're always contributing so much on the CP! Continuing your forum helping journey, here, right? I expected it!
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 13:19, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
Apple502j (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for being helpful so much in the background of Scratch Wiki systems!
    Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
    15:02, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for helping out so much with the Scratch and Scratch Wiki development — you definitely need a pretty high knowledge of programming and effort to do something like that. You're also generally very helpful on the CP and on the Scratch forums.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:43, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
Turkey3 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for creating this page, it was very helpful and I definitely learnt a lot about clones and sprites while editing it. I never knew private variables were so powerful, and I feel so satisfied about learning it.
    Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 15:43, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


The next TT is, November 26th, see you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:04, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Prevent categories from being added to userspace via AbuseFilter

It is possible for categories to be added to userspace pages, which are not supposed to have categories.

I think categories being added to userspace pages is quite common, and could be prevented by AbuseFilter.

The only exception should be Category:Pages in Need of Deletion.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:13, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

(Bumping this) The category marking open userpages should also be an exception.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:08, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
The most common way categories are added to userpages is via templates, and unfortunately AbuseFilter does not actually parse the page/do transclusion drilldown. This would require maintaining a list of templates that have categories attached to them. This would also require an exception looking for the |cat=no, which would be a pain to implement properly.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:15, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Unused User Images Mass Deletion

Yes Done

Within the coming days, unused Users' Images and Users' Logos will be tagged for deletion. After marking the images with {{Unused user image}}, they will be deleted around two weeks later. If you do not want your user image deleted, simply delete the template on the image you want to keep. I will update you all about my progress here. If you do not want any images to be deleted, please post a comment below! Thank you.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa talk | contribs | edits 03:59, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Unused images have been marked for deletion. Please review Category:Unused Users' Images for the list of images. Please note the deletion date has been changed from two weeks later to one week later, meaning they will be deleted on or after November 8, 2020. Please delete the template on the image if you want to keep the image. Thank you!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa talk | contribs | edits 18:20, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Completed.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa talk | contribs | edits 03:29, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Talk pages redirect


-unsigned comment by Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs) 18:01, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Why do they need to be deleted?
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 19:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
They are unneeded
-unsigned comment by Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs) 19:45, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
How?
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 20:54, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
As of right now, the bureaucrats and admins have said that it's not sure whether they should be deleted yet. The {{delete}} templates have been removed. Please reach a consensus first before adding mass deletion templates. However, thank you for wanting to contribute! :)
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:50, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Scratchblocks images

Hi, the Scratch Wiki is currently filled with 2.0 blocks screenshots.I think these pictures should be deleted because :

  1. They are outdated
  2. These pictures can be replaced with blocks
  3. They are pixelized

A bunch of pictures can be found here

Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs)19:14, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

From what I've known, current scratchblocks images are kept for historical reasons, but new scratchblocks images uploaded recently should be deleted.
TenType (talk | contribs) 20:20, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Downtime?

Yes Done
At around 8:40 AM ET, the Scratch Wiki was down, only showing a 503. Was anyone else getting this issue, and why did the servers crash?
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 13:47, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

This happens occasionally, unfortunately. This is an issue with our current server that happens when they are receiving more traffic than they can handle. We have taken measures to reduce how often this happens but haven't been able to completely eliminate it. As a longer-term solution, we are currently in the process of planning a server transfer, though that is probably still a ways off.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:22, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I'll mark this Yes Done now.
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 15:24, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Should there be a template to mark custom signatures which do not follow signature guidelines?

Question is in the title. Although, templates only used on userspace pages might not be allowed and adding that template might violate userspace rules. Such template also needs to be hidden when the signature is transcluded or forces a user to use the default ScratchSig (unless that would also break userspace rules).
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:44, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Please don't edit others' userpages (including templates and signatures), even if they don't meet formatting guidelines (if it violates SCGs, then it's ok to remove it). First, ask the user on their talk page, and if that doesn't get results within a few days, contact an EW+.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:05, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
I now presume such template would be rejected per jvvg's comment, so I will consider this Yes Done.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:37, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

My username starts with a lowercase letter

No Not done
On the Scratch website you will notice my username (brooc210) starts with a lowercase letter but on the Scratch Wiki it starts with a uppercase letter. So is it ok to use {{DISPLAYTITLE:User:brooc210}} on my userpage? I also found out that if you template it, it ignores it because itʼs not part of the page (I found this out by templating the page Snap! (programming language) on the sandbox without saving but using the preview).
brooc210 (talk | contribs) This is a signature!

You can rename your userpage and your talk to the lowercase username
-unsigned comment by Scratcheur-2020Send (talk | contribs) 13:42, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
@Scratcheur-2020Send: That is not possible, see what I wrote below.
Due to MediaWiki restrictions, usernames must start with an uppercase letter. Displaytitle is the closest anyone can get to having a lowercase username.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:07, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
So do you think I should?
brooc210 (talk | contribs) This is a signature! 14:39, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes, you can use displaytitle for that. We actually have a dedicated template specifically for this purpose. Unfortunately due to the way MediaWiki works, everything needs to start with a capital letter, including usernames. As "jvvg", I can commiserate with you.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:51, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

"Watchlist" Details

Yes Done
So, I know that the watchlist allows for you to keep track of edits made to certain Wiki pages, but I also noticed that there is a button labeled "Live Updates" that shows up when you go here. Does anyone know what that does?
84375 (talk | contribs) 02:53, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Oops, never mind, I just figured it out. Marking as Yes Done.
84375 (talk | contribs) 03:33, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Talk page (for pages not users) archives?

No Not done Title.
Lovecodeabc Links: talk | profile | contributions | directory 00:25, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

What specifically are you asking? Are you talking about if this exists or you are suggesting it?
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 19:21, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

How do I bring attention to a specific talk page to discuss an article?

Yes Done

And while I'm asking, is it proper etiquette to bring attention to one of them, or do you have to wait for someone to come across it naturally?
EZ-Games (talk | contribs) 17:06, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I recommend using the discussion invitation system as you can just send a message to people on the list on their talk page (Just remember to respect their limits) Most of the time they will respond to the message and check out the talk page you linked.
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 19:05, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Ah yes, this is what I was looking for. Thank you! I'll be marking this as Yes Done now.
EZ-Games (talk | contribs) 02:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

When someone edits your talk page, it says you have a new message from another user.

Well, sorry for another topic, but this is a bug so i'll bring it up. Title says it all.
Lovecodeabc Links: talk | profile | contributions | directory 00:15, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

That is intentional, so users know when they recieved a message and so the user who recieves the message can deal with the message quicker.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:28, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes, but if someone edits their message... -snip-
Lovecodeabc Links: talk | profile | contributions | directory 20:55, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
It's kinda hard to make an exception for notifying people for editing their message.
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 21:58, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Hmm.. We should send the user a message only if they add something to the talk page! Lovecodeabc Links: talk | profile | contributions | directory 14:50, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
It's extremely difficult to automatically determine if an edit to your talk page was a new message or a modification to an existing one (this was an issue I came across writing WikiMonitor when detecting unsigned posts, and in the end my algorithm is still not 100% perfect). Therefore, MediaWiki (the platform this Wiki runs on) will notify you whenever your talk page is modified, since it is considered important that you know whenever someone modifies it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:14, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Does MediaWiki send a notification whenever another user m minor edits a user talk page? If yes, then is there a way to make it so that it doesn't?
TenType (talk | contribs) 17:16, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Please answer that, jvvg! :) Lovecodeabc Links: talk | profile | contributions | directory 15:22, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Suggestions for highlighting active notifications in Echo

A few times, it has been suggested we add the Echo extension, which, in a nutshell, would allow users to be notified when mentioned on talk pages (and provide various other kinds of notifications as well. There has never been any major objection, but in the current version of MediaWiki and the extension, the styling causes significant issues with our current skin. I have been able to overcome those challenges, resulting in this:

Echo integrated with SWS user menu.png

However, one major thing remains. That is how do we emphasize individual menu items that have active notifications (for example, the "notices" link in this screenshot)? The only idea I was able to come up with myself is a badge similar to what displays next to the user menu at the top of that screenshot, but don't think that's a great idea since with the icons, those links already are pretty wide. Does anyone else have any suggestions?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:25, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Undeletion of GameBender

Should be procedurally undeleted as the reason provided for deletion is flatly not true-- users:ericr is involved in development and last time I checked they are a Scratch Team member. To the deleting sysop I will say that this is why discussion is important and not simply running around deleting whatever.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 02:51, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

The deletion reason says:
unless a reliable source that says a *current* ST member is involved is included, this is akin to a Scratch Mod which we now disallow by policy. Additionally there isn't enough content to warrant a full article, especially since it's not released yet.
Please, at least read the reason of the deletion, and give the link to the reliable source.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 08:38, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Apple502j, this page is labelled "Admin Requests" and involves the undeletion of a page. You are not an admin, nor may you undelete pages. The request to "at least read the reason of the deletion" when I already quoted and addressed it above does not help either.
I am not able to reference the content of the page, obviously as it has been deleted, however if my memory serves the page was well-sourced and clearly indicated the involvement. Even if it is not, sources being found are a part of the deletion discussion process, which again does not appear to have taken place at all. As such, the page should be restored and, at most, tagged with {{NotUseful}} (although the page would likely be kept due to the concerns in the nom statement being falsified instantly).
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 06:46, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
(note: this section is moved to CP, per the CPSYS guidelines)
Even though I'm not able to undelete, I can delete the page - in fact, the deletion is suggested by me on the talk page first, and we didn't have any response for more than two weeks. Also, the discussion is now moved to the Community Portal (see the CPSYS rules), so nothing is preventing me from posting this, both as an EW and as a user.
Saying "I read the reason" implies that you will also act accordingly; the reason specifically asked reliable sources, and you didn't provide any, at least in your posts. The deletion is (mostly) because Ken did not think that the citations given are either not enough, or incredible; so you have to explain how the page was "well-sourced". (If you need the deleted page's source, I can ask admins to post it somewhere.)
Finally: I'm sure we do not restore pages if they need NotUseful template.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 10:43, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Deleted article (for reference) User:Naleksuh/GameBender
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 10:57, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I deleted the article for a few reasons.

First off, nothing in it mentioned ericr's involvement, nor are there any sources that directly mention such. The GameBender website lists him as a "collaborator" which is not enough involvement for the purposes of NOSP - had he been listed as part of "Team GameBender" I would have maybe considered this a valid invocation of the rule, but a single name mention could have been one line of code.

Even if he had been part of the team, it's still not allowed. Notability requirements expressly forbid Scratch Mods, and as far as I can see, and as far as the article describes, this is very much a Scratch Mod - it modifies Scratch to add bells and whistles. The ST-member exception is very clear that the article must meet normal notability requirements - this does not meet them.

A couple final notes:

  • CPSYS explicitly states that it's "for actions requiring admin/EW attention that need no discussion". Apple is an EW, and it turned out that it needed discussion. Ergo, the topic was moved here.
  • The sum total of the sources was the GB website, on which I had to scroll all the way down to find the "Team" link in the footer, then scroll all the way past the "Team GameBender" section to find Eric Rosenbaum in the list of "Collaborators"; and three Vimeo links which had no people in them, just demonstrations of GB itself. There was no clear indication of his involvement.
  • Please don't say "you are not an admin" in an effort to shut someone up. Anyone that is technically able to reply has a say, even if they can't actually execute some of the actions required.

I appreciate your effort to bring content to the Wiki, but please consider the notability and suitability of the future articles you create. The article stays deleted.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Apple502j, my purpose in suggesting the addition of the NotUseful template was that no discussion surrounding deletion had taken place at all. It does not make sense for pages to be deleted without discussion but then require discussion for them to be undeleted. The purpose of restoring the page with the NotUseful template would be to fostor discussion (it would also require the nominator to actually show problems instead of simply deleting in violation of policy). In addition, I was by no means suggesting that the article qualified for the NotUseful template-- I specifically indicated that it would likely be kept as well.
Kenny2scratch, it should be abundantly clear that the page in question was not a "Scratch modification" in the slightest (Scratch modifications are software, the page in question was about a piece of hardware). It does not seem to fit into any of the categories and is generally thought to be allowed as a semi-official product (around as notable as, say, LEGO WeDo). Regardless, claims such as "the article stays deleted" are generally made by uninvolved administrators, and you are by no means uninvolved.
It should (hopefully) be clear to any uninvolved administrator that the page did not meet the criteria for speedy deletion in any way, and even if the normal deletion venue was used, the nominator made no attempt to S:BEFORE, as well as the fact that the page in question is not about a third-party Scratch modification but a piece of hardware officially affiliated with Scratch which is well-documented in other venues.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 20:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
I suggested the deletion on the talk page in October; nobody (including Naleksuh yourself) responded it, though, so it was safe to assume that nobody was against that idea. Additionally, English Scratch Wiki rules, AFAIK, do not require discussion before (un)deleting something. Admins can undelete without discussion; but that does not mean admins have to undelete wihout discussion. They can decide.
GameBender is both a hardware and a software (because you can't just play Scratch with a CPU and RAM). LEGO WeDo (and other stuff like micro:bit) are used in the official Scratch extensions and available at scratch.mit.edu, while anyone can claim to be one of the Scratch Team members and put their names on their website. One example of this was "Dexter Industries GoPiGo For Raspberry Pi", which was deleted because it was not notable.
Any administrators can take action.
And finally: S:NOTWP. We do not have speedy delete and normal delete, and S:BEFORE is deadlink. (jawiki is the only wiki, AFAIK, that has both). A question: is there any website that mentions ST members are involved "as ST member" (i.e. not as a hobby). on scratch.mit.edu or other websites that are not GameBender official website?
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 03:34, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
I will say that "We do not have speedy delete and normal delete" is not true, that is exactly what we have ("speedy delete" being Template:Delete and "normal delete" being [[Template:NotUseful). However, I concede with the fact that the page in question actually was nominated for deletion. I was not aware of this until it was actually deleted. This may be an issue with the deletion process that can be resolved elsewhere.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 04:00, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Promoting apple502j

Hi everyone,

I'm suggesting promoting apple502j to adminship.

apple502j (talk | contribs) has been an excellent and active user both in jawiki and enwiki, and I'm sure that anyone in the wiki can agree that by looking contributions both in wikis and code contributions on the wiki extensions. However, sometimes it seems he has lack on accessing to tools - protection, undeletion, and on handling stuffs around the wiki. (we've recently see that on restoring deleted pages)

With in this mind, I'm suggesting that promoting apple502j to adminship with the agreement of admins and wiki community. You can vote it by Yes Yes and No No for whether you're supporting or not supporting promotion of apple502j to adminship.

I will start: I vote Yes Yes.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
11:30, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

I disagree. Apple is not experienced enough on enwiki (for comparison, Bigpuppy was promoted 30 months after he became EW; Apple has been EW for 14 months), and he already has full access to jawiki which I think keeps his hands full - adding enwiki adminship would only add to his burden. Unless other admins think otherwise, I consider this No Rejected.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:25, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes Support! even though it's not election time
Lovecodeabc Links: talk | profile | contributions | directory 15:35, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
No Strong oppose While I assume this request was filed due to my recent comment that Apple502j is not an admin, this was mentioned both in attempt against "non-admin closures", but more importantly the comment was erroneous. As for whether or not Apple502j should become an admin, this comment is enough to warrant a strong oppose on its own. Naleksuh mentioned that current system is like a hierarchy - and that is true. However, this is supposed to happen. is the complete opposite spirit that would be expected from anyone who wants to request adminship. This has happened on several other occasions as well such as Special:Diff/263805 where the candidate proclaimed that a "rule is now clear" because one sysop wrote a comment proclaiming something. While this is the strongest point from anyone who wants to request adminship, even if all of that was to be ignored, it is questionable whether they are even here to contribute to the enecylopedia at all. Out of the candidate's 50 most recent edits, only two of them were to mainspace. Yes, two. Overall, I see no evidence of directing improvement towards the wiki and much more towards trying to act authoritatively, which is the polar opposite of anyone who should be trying to request adminship.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 20:08, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
I am explicitly neutral on the specific idea of promoting apple502j. That being said, (specifically to Naleksuh), the hostile tone of your recent messages, including this one, is not acceptable.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:28, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Kinda busy right now, please reject this.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 07:50, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Prevent links to Scratch profiles in mainspace

Linking to Scratch profiles in mainspace is against Wiki Guidelines, and I think it is a bit common. If this is accepted, AbuseFilter could be used. Both non-interwiki and Interwiki links to profiles should be detected.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:58, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

What's AbuseFilter?
Lovecodeabc Links: talk | profile | contributions | directory 23:01, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
AbuseFilter is an extension we use to automatically enforce various policies. Currently, it's used for filtering inappropriate language, preventing New Wikians from editing others' userpages without permission, blocking uploading large files (images above a certain size can cause problems on the server), blocking uploading files without a category, and preventing moves/deletions without a summary (see Special:AbuseFilter for more). As for the original suggestion, is this a common problem that comes up? I wouldn't be willing to add this unless it is, and it is also possible that there might be a legitimate reason (just thinking out loud here, linking to a ST member's profile as an example profile page) and then that would add technical and administrative overhead.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:26, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Oh. User:Lovecodeabc/Signature 15:15, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

Featured Studios/Currently Featured‎

There should be a program that checks a few times a day if a studio has been featured, and if so, updates Featured Studios/Currently Featured so it will always match what is on the Scratch front page.
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 19:36, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

What would happen if...

What would happen if I edited this page? You're supposed to upload a file, but I'm curious what would happen if you edited a new file page without uploading a file.
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 16:44, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Is the link invalid? It's telling me the page has been deleted and I would need to re-create it first.
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 23:42, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
That is intentional for this "what if" situation.
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 23:46, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
Oh, ok I get what you were saying now. But I'm not sure, sorry.
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 01:39, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
That's OK :)
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 02:03, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

My signature

Yes Done
Hi, I have question. My signature's timestamp is not formatting correctly. (image) Does anyone know why this may be? You can view the code for my sig at User:Leahcimto/Signature. Thanks!
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile

I tested removing the <br/>, that may work. I didn't save any changes since editing userspace is against the rules, though, so you'll have to do it yourself.
78ch3ProfilePic.png78ch3: My Talk | Contribs | Main 09:46, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
When I remove it, my signature goes on the same line as my text :/
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 13:53, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
Does anyone else know how I can fix it?
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 16:19, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Nevermind, there was an extra space in my minisig.
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 15:54, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

"ScratchWikiSkin" Source Code - How do I get it?

Hello everyone!
This is a short message, but I feel like I should ask.
How do I get the source code of the "ScratchWikiSkin" in the Preferences menu? And, if possible, what is the source code? 🤔
I was wondering about this because I want the skin for Wikipedia, however skins not included with Wikipedia have to be implemented using CSS or Javascript. If you can find the code, THANK YOU!
Thanks again,

8bitjake (talk | contribs) 16:24, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Here is ScratchWikiSkin2, found on the Scratch Wiki github.
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 17:40, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Please delete these pages.

Hey, Scratch Wiki! This topic will be different from normal. Earlier today, I made some pages I want to delete now. However, I am not an admin, and I don't want to flag them as candidates for deletion. Please let an admin know about this. Here are all pages I want deleted.
Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/User:8bitjake
Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/Scratch_Wiki:April_Fools/User:8bitjake
User:8bitjake/Templates/Sidebar
Yep, that's all of them. I will make a new topic when I want new pages deleted.

8bitjakePFPCurrent.png8bitjake (talk | contribution | scratch)

I'm not an admin, but maybe you should ask a specific person so that you can get a response faster =)
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 23:49, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
To let an EW+ know you want those pages deleted, put {{delete}} at the top of the page.
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 00:23, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes Done - in the future, we also have Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests for stuff like this.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:51, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

How can I make my whole talk page a certain font?

Yes Done
Title. I have tried using the span style tags, but that only does one line at a time. Is there someting else I can use to do the whole page?
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 00:29, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

If you put <div style="font-face:my font"> at the very top (and do not close it), that will apply a font to your whole page. If you do this, please make sure not to use a font/style that is too difficult to read.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:53, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you! I'll mark this as Yes Done now.
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 13:58, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

2nd Sandbox

So, I happened to notice that bigpuppy had made a 2nd sandbox here and I wanted to make a 2nd sandbox myself for experimental purposes. Do I just do that by creating a new page called "User:J_Coder26/Sandbox2" which I did here? I'm not sure if there's a specific way to do this or I'm just supposed to create a new page, so if anyone could let me know that would be helpful. Thanks.
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 08:12, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

You're right, you can name it whatever you want - for example, "Sandbox2" or "Another sandbox".
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 15:21, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Alright, thank you.
J_Coder26 (talk | contribs) 16:42, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Signature template - Is it possible?

HELLO WORLD! I was wondering if it is possible to set your signature - the 3 tildas - to be a template. In other words, your signature calls a template. In this case, {{User:8bitjake/Templates/Siggy}}
Here are both my signatures, with the latter being my current one (the default), and the former being my wanted signature.

8bitjakePFPCurrent.png8bitjake (talk | contribution | scratch)

8bitjake (talk | contribs)
If you can find a way to make a signature a template - THANK YOU! Thanks again,
8bitjake (talk | contribs) 20:37, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

CitationComPortal.PNG

Wiki Question

What's happened in the last few months on the wiki? I've been a bit swamped with schoolwork so I'm just asking since my last real activity was around late September.
Garnet.gif garnetluvcookie  talk  contribs  directory  14:11, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

The CP's been archived(I think), Jackson49 joined, (he is so helpful), Project's intro picture changed,

yeah, that's baciclly all that happened. Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 14:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

2020 Election?

Hi! So, I'm new to the Scratch Wiki, so I'm not well informed about this yet, so sorry if this is obvious or irrelevant, but is there going to be a 2020 election for new Administrators or Experienced Wikians? From what I can find, it looks like there is an election once per year, yet I can't find any info for a 2020 election, despite 2020 being almost over. Is there going to be one soon?
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 02:40, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Yes Rejected Well, we're tired of elections (especially after a big, real one) - maybe next year (though not sure). We had a new administrator this year so that's enough.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,229edit 03:35, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for your info! By the way, I wasn't suggesting an election. I was just asking if there was going to be one, but I got enough info from your answer, so thanks.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 14:10, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
To be a bit more specific, we have elections on an as-needed basis rather than following any sort of fixed schedule. We currently have sufficient EW+, but will hold an election if the situation changes to the point where we determine we need more. Also, as apple502j said, elections are time consuming and a distraction from regular Wiki operations, so we try not to have them too often.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:17, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

WikiMonitor

Yes Done Hi, WikiMonitor has been giving me a lot of "unsigned" messages, but the linked edits are me marking something as done on my talk page. Does anyone know how I can get WikiMonitor to ignore the edits of me marking topics as done, preferably without the {{NoBots}} template?
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 22:16, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Check the 'this is a minor edit' box when you add the Done template. Also, I think WikiMonitor ignores NoBots.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:50, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! Yes Done
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 21:07, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes, marking an edit as minor will cause it to be ignored. I did my best to determine what counts as a message vs. not a message, but that's a nearly impossible task to get universally right with a basic algorithm. Please do not add {{NoBots}} just to avoid getting notifications if you are getting a lot of notifications for actual mistakes you made (if any) though, as I have the ability to override that if I determine someone is abusing the template.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:47, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

Why did you move servers?

You moved from the US to Germany, right? Why did you move servers?
Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 15:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

I'll give the very short version: the Wiki was for a long time directly run by the ST. They were in charge of technical maintenance, were (for all intents and purposes) the only users with bureaucrat privileges (think stuff like modifying system settings, modifying user permissions, blocking, etc.), and paid for the hosting. However, the ST didn't have much direct involvement with the community, so often such changes that needed to be made required contacting a ST member, which could take a while to get a response. At the same time, the Wiki EW+ faced a lot of obstacles in getting things done for these reasons, since we couldn't actually make any changes directly and instead had to go via the ST. Furthermore, the ST did not want to continue being responsible for both funding and maintaining the Wiki. While all of this was happening, the Scratch Wikis in other languages (the flagship one being German) existed independently and were not maintained by the ST. Eventually, an arrangement to give the Wiki community direct control and relieve the ST of the responsibility of maintaining was reached, and that was that the Wiki would be moved to be hosted alongside the other non-English Wikis, and that's where we are now.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:52, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, but the fair use problem and stuff...
Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 01:55, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Unfortunately there is also the funding angle of this. The hosting was already funded (and still is) for a host in Germany, but to run it in the United States, we would have to fund it ourselves. We are considering moving the server back to the United States and working out a funding arrangement, but so far don't have an official plan.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:45, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

What should be done about a bad reference?

Yes Done What if an article has a reference that does not prove the fact it is placed after?
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 01:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

In that case, remove the reference and add {{citation needed}}.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:44, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes Done
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 04:07, 4 December 2020 (UTC)

Question

You don't have the visual editor on talk pages. Why, oh, why?
Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 00:48, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

The short answer is that it doesn't work well with talk pages (yet). Once MediaWiki can make it work better with talk pages, we can enable it there.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:44, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Yes Done
Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 21:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

12th anniversary of Scratch Wiki!

Yay! 10milemoji.png
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
17:43, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

10milemoji.png
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 20:09, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Whoo-hoo! Happy 12th anniversary Scratch Wiki!
4096bits PFP New.png 4096bits | Talk | 718 Contribs 20:29, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Yay, happy 12th birthday! 10milemoji.png
someone bake a birthday cake, the name of the person is "Scratch Wiki", it's his 12th birthday
Lovecodeabc Links: talk page | scratch profile | contributions 21:56, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
Yay! Happy 12th anniversary Scratch Wiki! Look, I even made some cupcakes: Cupcake.png Cupcake.png Cupcake.png Cupcake.png