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{{April Fools}}{{/Help Box}}{{good style|cat-at-end}}
 
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<noinclude>[[Category:Community]]</noinclude>
 
== Bulletin Board for Not-Done Topics ==
 
== Bulletin Board for Not-Done Topics ==
 
{{not done}} (this will never be done completely, so don't archive!)
 
{{not done}} (this will never be done completely, so don't archive!)
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* [[S:CPND#A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All]]
 
* [[S:CPND#A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All]]
 
* [[S:CPND#3.0 updating]]
 
* [[S:CPND#3.0 updating]]
* [[S:CPND#What should we call the Scratch 3.0 player?]]
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* [[S:CPND#Articles to update for 3.0]]
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==== Articles ====
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* [[S:CPND#Split the Paint Article]]
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* [[S:CPND#New page for mall simulators]]
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* [[S:CPND#Merging Cloud Data Articles?]]
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* [[S:CPND#Naming Blocks]]
  
 
==== About Wiki Management ====
 
==== About Wiki Management ====
 
===== Backend =====
 
===== Backend =====
* [[S:CPND#Embedding of Scratch Projects]]
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* [[S:CPND#Block Problems]]
  
 
===== Page Management =====
 
===== Page Management =====
* [[S:CPND#Help:Contents Is missing some help pages]]
 
 
* [[S:CPND#Not Done doesn't get enough attention]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Not Done doesn't get enough attention]]
* [[S:CPND#Not Done]]
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* [[S:CPND#Scratch Wiki Adventure]]
* [[S:CPND#Split the Paint Article]]
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* [[S:CPND#Tip of the Day]]
* [[S:CPND#New page for mall simulators]]
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* [[S:CPND#Suggestion: Resolved and Unresolved Templates]]
  
 
===== Rules =====
 
===== Rules =====
* [[S:CPND#custom signatures]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Account Request Notes]]
 
 
* [[S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use]]
 
* [[S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Relax S:NOSP even more]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Relax S:NOSP even more]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions]]
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* [[S:CPND#Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German]]
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* [[S:CPND#Constructiveness in Community Portal - An Idea]]
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* [[S:CPND#Suggestion: Have a dedicated page for feedback on the account request system]]
  
 
===== Interwiki =====
 
===== Interwiki =====
* [[S:CPND#We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"]]
 
 
* [[S:CPND#Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal?]]
 
* [[S:CPND#Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal?]]
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* [[S:CPND#Centralized Cross-Wiki Discussion]]
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===== Community =====
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* [[S:CPND#Scratch Wiki YT Channel]]
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* [[S:CPND#Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 107#Tell users on Wiki Wednesday topics not to spam in replies continuation]]
  
 
To make sure that your thread will not be archived put the template {{not done}} at the top.
 
To make sure that your thread will not be archived put the template {{not done}} at the top.
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:::Updated the list as the author.{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Updated the list as the author.{{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Updated! {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Updated! {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Updated. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 14:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
  
 
== Logging server faults ==
 
== Logging server faults ==
 
{{not done|Never Done}}
 
{{not done|Never Done}}
  
Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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[[/Logging server faults|See dedicated subpage]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
{| class="wikitable" width="100%"
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! Time
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== March Featured Images ==
! Errors
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{{not done}}
! Details/Comments
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<!-- Add new items below this comment, following this format:
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Hello everyone! It's time to decide on [[Scratch Wiki Home/Featured Images|featured images]] for March. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.
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| time of incident (make it as accurate as you can)
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;What can I suggest?
| HTTP error code if it connected, browser error code if it failed. For example, "503 Service Unavailable" or "ERR_TIMED_OUT"
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You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.
| Details of incident, like what page you were on, what you were trying to do, etc~~~~
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;How do I tell if an image has already been featured?
(the ~~~~ is necessary, that's your signature lol)
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It will have the {{t|featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.
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;Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?
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No. However, please don't suggest ''too many...'' {{e|:P}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
| 8 August 2018
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:[[File:404-Giga.png]]<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 04:06, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
| 400 Bad Request<br/>503 Service Unavailable
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:[[File:Scratch 2 Sprite Icon Info.png]]<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 01:58, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
| I was editing [[User:Kenny2scratch/common.js]], and when I clicked "save page" I hit a "400 Bad Request" error. I pressed the browser "back" button (thanks Chrome for caching form data), and clicked "save page" again, and I encountered "503 Service Unavailable". I went back again, resubmitted, and the edit went through.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
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::Note: We need to indicate that it's from Scratch 2.0 for the second image.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 21:05, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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:::[[File:3.0 Clean Up feature.png]]{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 23:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
| 10:26 AM, 3 September 2018 (GMT)
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:[[File:Surprisebutton.PNG]]<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 17:56, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
| Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties
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:[[File:About Me and What I'm Working On.PNG]]<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 02:00, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
| I clicked on random page{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
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| 5:27 PM, 3 September 2018 (HKT)
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| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties"
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== How do elections work? ==
| I was literally attempting to edit this section. When I clicked the "edit" link, it brought me to a page that said:
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<big>'''Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.'''</big><br/>
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So, I'm a bit confused about the Scratch Wiki elections. How do people vote?  How is it decided when to hold them?  <scratchsig>Jackson49</scratchsig> 23:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.<br/>
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:See [[Scratch Wiki:Elections|this page]] for a lot more information about elections. Here is a very brief overview:
<small>(Cannot access the database)</small>
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:Elections are held on an as-needed basis and there is no regular schedule. The need is determined collectively by the existing EW+ by asking ourselves if the active EW+ we have now is sufficient to keep everything running smoothly or if we think we need additional people to help us out. We also bear in mind that holding an election is often a weekslong distraction from actual article editing, so we try not to have elections more often than we have to.
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:People vote on an external site that allows you to log in with your Wiki credentials to cast a vote. You rank the candidates from first to last, and then whichever candidate has the best average ranking wins (we usually select the top two).
:You can try searching Google in the meantime.<br/><small>Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.</small>
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:When we do hold an election, we announce on the Community Portal (i.e. here) well in advance letting people know about the dates everything will happen. Then we will allow candidates to nominate themselves, and once nominations close the existing EW+ will look over the list and determine who we think should run. Then the selected candidates will write speeches, and then people will vote.
{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
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:We do not have any plans to host an election in the near future.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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| 10:07-11:20 PM, 8 September 2018 (HKT)
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== json Editing ==
| Major outage across all wikis
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| Multiple screenshots: [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487987719411204102/Screen_Shot_2018-09-08_at_10.08.33_AM.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487988142184595478/Screen_Shot_2018-09-08_at_10.10.22_AM.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487987682132230148/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487987425193492492/Screen_Shot_2018-09-08_at_10.07.28_AM.png][https://pastebin.com/jkxGm6P4 this is the most useful error][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487988331226071060/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487989244506144775/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487990014861377536/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/487990367946407958/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/488005118428577792/unknown.png][https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/331276057590104064/488005028028874754/unknown.png]
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Many pages have similar instructions on how to access the json inside sb3 and sprite3 files:
  
Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Page !! Steps Taught
 
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| 10:44 AM, 2 October 2018 (GMT)
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|[[Making Invisible Code]] || extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
| 508 Resource Limit Reached
 
| Edit a user's talk page{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 09:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
 
 
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| 4:40 AM, 2 January 2019 (CST)
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|[[Hidden Blocks]] || extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
| 508 Resource Limit Reached
 
| Trying to create a redirect page. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
 
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|-
| 4:58 PM, 8:02 PM, 10:22 PM, 10:25 PM @ 3 January 2019 (HKT); 12:46 AM @ 4 January 2019 (HKT)
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|[[JSON Tutorial]] || extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
| 508 Resource Limit Reached
 
<br/>503 Service Unavailable
 
<br/>File upload fail
 
| Frequent outages across all wikis. Most likely caused by traffic spike from 3.0.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
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| 9:12 AM, 4 January 2019 (CST) <br/> 9:17 AM, 4 January 2019 (EST)
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|[[Scratch Lab#Custom Fonts]] || extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
| "Service Unavailable Error [...]<br/>503 Service Unavailable Error"<br/>"508 Resource Limit Reached"
 
| Trying to enter my talk, kept refreshing until worked, came to CP to log fault. Errors repeated until worked. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
 
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| 15:02:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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|[[Layer (value)#Viewing the Specific Layer Value]] || extracting, opening
| Fatal exception of type DBQueryError
 
| I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page. <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
 
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| 9:02 AM, 7 February 2019 (CST)
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|[[How to Save a Project#Uploading a Project]] || extracting, opening
| 508 Resource Limit Reached
 
| Trying to go to [[How to Make a Typewriter Effect]]. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
 
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| 4:50 AM, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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|[[Exporting and Importing#Scripts]] || extracting, opening
| HTTP error: error
 
| Clicked the ''Show preview'' button while editing [[User:TenType/Header]], when it did not preview and received the error. Clicking the button again resolved the issue. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
 
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| 11:00 PM, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
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|[[Scratch File Format#Project Files]] || extracting
| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."
 
| Literally attempted to access en.scratch-wiki.info and a few other pages, when I received this:
 
<big>'''Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.'''</big><br/>Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.<br/><small>(Cannot access the database)</small>
 
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:You can try searching via Google in the meantime.
 
:<small>Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.</small><br/>
 
Waited for like 10 minutes while reloading and the error finally cleared.
 
<scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 07:17, 25 June 2019 (HKT)
 
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| 08:25, 22 January 2020 (EST)
 
| "Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."
 
| Tried to navigate to my userpage from another article, and got [https://ibb.co/qMqwN4M the error].{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 13:32, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 
 
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:Could we have a dedicated page to that?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
 
::Nah, just here is fine.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::{{not done}} <scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
 
::::If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. <small>(archives)</small> <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::Not too many right now.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::{{not done|Never done!}} Server faults will always come. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
 
:Do we not have [[Scratch_Wiki:Known_Bugs|this?]]{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).
 
::Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Articles to update for 3.0 ==
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This could be simplified by using [[Help:Templates|templates]] with instructions for each step, so maybe such templates should be created.
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<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 01:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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== Thankful Thursday! February 25{{th}}, 2021 ==
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 036}}
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
  
{{not done|Won't be done for a long time}}
 
  
Hello everyone, it's already January 2nd for me, so I figure I might as well get the preparations started.
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The next TT is, March 25{{th}}, 2021 see you then!
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
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:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
  
=== Observations/Edit Guidance ===
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== How are "April Fools pages" made? ==
Pages outdated upon 3.0 release are incredibly numerous. In most cases, one or more of the following edits can or should happen:
 
* Parts that talk about ''3.0 features'' in ''future tense'' (e.g. "there will be a new paint editor") should be changed to use ''present tense'' (e.g. "there is a new paint editor") or ''past tense'' (e.g. "a new paint editor was introduced")
 
* Parts that talk about ''3.0 changes'' in ''future tense'' (e.g. "the editor will be moved to the right side") should be changed to use ''past tense'' (e.g. "the editor was moved to the right side")
 
* Parts that mention ''dates'' in ''any tense'' should have their tense ''updated'' (e.g. "the official release will be January 2019" -> "the official release was January 2019")
 
* Parts that talk about ''2.0 features'' in ''any tense'' (e.g. "the paint editor has these features") should be changed to use ''past tense'' (e.g. "the paint editor had these features")
 
* Parts that talk about ''2.0 changes'' in ''any tense'' (e.g. "the editor was moved to the left") should all be changed to ''past tense'' if they haven't already.
 
* Take this opportunity to update things that weren't changed from 1.4 days as well.
 
  
=== Progress ===
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{{done}}
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As that some pages have "April Fools Pages", I'm curious on making one. I am not sure how to make one. And I am curious on can I, as a new Wikian or even an Wikian, can make such a page. Do I need to be an Admin or EW? If I can make one, please inform me on the process. If I cannot, in what stage of Wikian do I have to be to make one? Thanks. <scratchsig>MitFieldatdawn</scratchsig> 08:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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:Any user can create an April Fools page. To make one, create a subpage of [[Scratch Wiki:April Fools]], although AF pages must be corresponding to a page on the Scratch Wiki which is not a redirect or disallowed (see the link earlier in this reply to find the link to the list). {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 09:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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::I also just want to add that we do have some rules for April Fools' pages (in the link in Jammum's reply), please make sure to read them before creating the page.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 21:47, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
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:::Oh, I see that. So should I do something in the title that tells people it's for "that" page?<scratchsig>MitFieldatdawn</scratchsig> 08:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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::::At the top of every April Fools page, add the <nowiki>{{AF}}</nowiki> template on it. It will mention the corresponding article for an AF page and adds a category to those joke pages. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 08:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
  
Here is a list of articles that need to be updated (on their real versions in mainspace) upon the release of 3.0. You can probably already start updating them now. Articles marked with an asterisk (*) have updates available at [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles]]/the article title, but:
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== Thumbnail issue has been (mostly) resolved ==
{{warning|do not copy articles directly from their 3.0 versions!}}
 
Though in most cases the information will be correctly updated, make sure to use your own judgement as to its accuracy.
 
  
{{note|Some of the articles listed below need to be created.}}
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Hi everyone,
  
Feel free to update this list yourself. Add any articles that you discover that need updates; remove articles that have been updated.
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We have had an issue for a while where large files were causing the thumbnail generator to crash. I think I have resolved the issue, and have spot-checked large files I'm aware of and they seem to have properly-generated thumbnails.
  
* Blocks
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Note that the existing policies about filesize are not changing, at least for now. Files larger than 200KB and larger than 1920x1080 (or equivalent number of pixels in a different aspect ratio) will still be blocked, as generating thumbnails for large images still has the potential to slow down the server and also cause issues for users with slow internet connections. Everyone is also still expected to compress images prior to uploading.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 22:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
* File:Name bar.png
 
* File:Offline Editor Share Icon.png
 
  
=== Remember to take this opportunity to ''clean up'' articles as well as update them! ===
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== Can't log in to scratch ==
==== Fix typography or other writing issues as you come across them ====
 
We don't want to have to make a second sweep to clean up all the weird grammar from tense changes. Remember to fix the grammar and spelling of the articles ''as a whole'' while you update them.
 
  
==== Ask for help when you need it ====
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I tried to log into scratch this morning and this came up:
If a page or redirect needs to be deleted or you need some other admin action, leave a message at [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests]]. If you don't specifically need admin actions, you can ask anyone you think would know the answer to your question.
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Sorry, we've had to block all access from your network because it was used to break our community guidelines.
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The people in charge of the network may contact us at appeals@scratch.mit.edu (case #1534971173) for details.
  
=== Here's to a good 3.0 release! ===
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I have absolutely no idea why this as I have not had any warnings from the scratch team in the last 5 months approx and as far as I know I have not done anything to break the community guidelines! What do I do because I am clueless? HELP! {{User:Filmlover12/Signature}} 09:19, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
[[File:Hooray.png]]{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 05:40, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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:I believe it is an Ip ban bug but if anyone sees anything that I could have done can you let me know? Thanks. {{User:Filmlover12/Signature}} 10:11, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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::Someone else broke the CGs probably<br>{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 13:44, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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:::It says under [[Ban#IP_Bans|Ip Bans]] that bugs have been reported about users getting ip banned unexpectedly for no reason. <scratchsig>Dogsmakemehappy</scratchsig> 13:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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::::Thanks! I just hope I can log into scratch soon! {{User:Filmlover12/Signature}} 14:18, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
  
:Oh I thought a bot would do it :P also are we saving old articles, for example Block Plugin(2.0)?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
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== Hide 'Save changes' in the editor until Show Preview is clicked ==
::I thought we were moving 2.0 to a different place and 3.0 to where 2.0 used to be. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 16:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Removed some articles from the list :)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Should [[Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Front Page (2.0)]] be updated? It's so similar to [[Front Page]], that it seems redundant to create a new page.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 22:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::I noticed that many of the things needed to be changed were the same in 2.0 and 3.0. What should we do? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 18:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::[[S:STYLE#no-ext-wikilinks|Please don't externally link to Wiki pages!]] And [[S:STYLE#no-link-underscores|please don't use underscores in links]].
 
:::::I'm pretty sure it's the pictures that need updating. Would you mind adding all the files on that page that need updating to the [[#Progress]] list?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::Nothing has changed between 2.0 to 3.0 in Front Page, Messages, Discuss, Profiles. (Maybe more but these are all I've been to). The Project page and project editor are the only ones that have. <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 15:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::::The front page has changed, they've just been using the 3.0 skin for a while. Notice how the top bar is bright blue there and on project pages but a darker blue in discuss and the profiles as well as studios. Messages have also been at the 3.0 skin for a while. My stuff (and everything in it, like trash) has not been updated either. <scratchsig>EIephant_Lover</scratchsig>  02:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::::Also I think "Images of stuff in 2.0 should be updated to 3.0." should be included.  {{#ifeq:|nobr|<br/>|}}[[File:VFDan.png|20px|link=User:VFDan]]{{nbsp}}{{link style|User:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=VFDan}}{{nbsp}}<span style="border: 2px solid cyan; border-radius:1px 0 0 10px">{{nbsp}}{{link style|User talk:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Talk}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;">{{nbsp}}{{link style|Special:Contributions/VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Contribs}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;border-radius:0px 10px 1px 0px">{{nbsp}}<span class="plainlinks">{{User:12944qwerty/CPL|link=https://scratch.mit.edu/users/VFDan|text=On Scratch&nbsp;|color:orange;font-weight:bold}}</span></span>  22:03, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== List of deleted pages ==
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This might not be possible, but I think the Save Changes button in the editor should be hidden until Show preview is clicked. If this is possible, this would decrease WikiMonitor warnings for editing too many times.
{{not done}}
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Apart from the possibility of this being a major problem, some users might be confused that the button is missing. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 18:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
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:I think it is a good idea but I'm not sure if the change would be 100% necessary. There are some downsides but if someone thinks of a solution to those minor problems, then I think it is a '''very''' good idea. {{User:Filmlover12/Signature}} 09:05, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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::I've just had an idea. Well, one of the problems you said was that some users may be confused if the button is missing. Maybe, if it's possible, the button could still be there but not able to be clicked on until show preview is clicked. That way, users would still be able to see the button but not be able to press it. {{User:Filmlover12/Signature}} 15:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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== Featured Images ==
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{{not done}} I noticed that recently, the "Featured Images" are not changing. Is there a problem?<scratchsig>MitFieldatdawn</scratchsig> 11:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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:No, just nobody has bothered changing them.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 16:22, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
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== Remove full name from a deletion log entry ==
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On the deletion log entry for Xanderbeee, a full name is given on the preview of what the now-deleted article contained. Part of the entry's description needs to be removed.
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(Also, would this belong in the Admin Requests rather than the main Community Portal?) {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 08:42, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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:I don't know what entry you're pointing to. Could you please be more specific? (If you wish this to be private, you can submit this in a revision report - if you can't report the exact revision, report a random revision and include the link).<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 16:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
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== My talk page is glitchy ==
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[[User talk:Ideapad-320]]<scratchsig>Ideapad-320</scratchsig> 18:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
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:At first glance I don't see any problems. Could you please be more specific?<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 01:29, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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::[[User_talk:Ideapad-320#Welcome.21|Here is the exact location]]<scratchsig>Ideapad-320</scratchsig> 17:50, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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:::That seems like an issue with the markup in the specific message, so unfortunately there's not much that can be done.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 20:58, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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::::There is another thread being used at [[User_talk:Asqwde#Welcome_template_not_working_fine]] {{unsigned|Ideapad-320}}
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:::::The user whose welcome template is 'glitchy' is currently inactive, so it might not be fixed for a while. The glitch also happens on one of my talk page archives. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:18, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
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== RFC on Preview Warning ==
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I have built a bit of sample JS code that will show a warning if pressing "Save changes" without previewing. You can see the code at [[User:Jvvg/previewWarn.js]]. I have done a cursory test and it seems to work (it by default ignores talk pages). It works similar to the existing sig warn tool and will show an alert if you try to press "save changes" without previewing. However, unlike the sig warn tool, all you have to do to bypass it is just close the alert and press "Save changes" again. The goal is to encourage users to preview changes to avoid having a lot of repeated edits to one page.
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What are everyone's thoughts on enabling this globally? Also, if anyone has any ideas for how this could be improved, I would love to hear them.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:16, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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:I think it's a good idea, but it would be kinda annoying if you just wanted to delete a space and you had to press the preview button{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 18:08, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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::You don't have to necessarily press preview - pressing "OK" on the alert and just pressing "Save changes" again will let you save without previewing.
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::I personally would suggest adding a bypass on minor edits as well (though possibly disabling the bypass on the most egregious namespaces (though at that point it might not be worth having the bypass in the first place (just something to consider, then))).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 18:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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:::I have updated the code to ignore minor edits.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 20:01, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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::::I'm OK with it personally, albeit I think that there might be users who disagrees with it.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 20:12, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
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:::::I think this could help prevent edits to a single page littering Recent Changes, as it is way too easy to get a WikiMonitor notification for it. Additionally, I think edits should be blocked (the edit should be prevented from being submitted, not having the user being blocked) if it would trigger a WikiMonitor notification. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 15:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
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{{outdent|5}}No, blocking edits would just make people mad. Oh, and how would you block the edits? AbuseFilter? Anyway, this could be useful but many people (including me lol) would just click OK every time. <br>{{User:Lovecodeabc/Sig}} 17:27, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
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:I don't think fully blocking edits is necessary, and doing so would either require some messy JS (that could be easily defeated) or using AbuseFilter (I'm not sure it's even possible to do this in AbuseFilter) or writing our own extension. I do plan to keep WikiMonitor in operation so users do get a notification if they continually disregard the warning.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
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::I'm seeing no major opposition, so I have enabled the preview warning. Please let me know if there are any issues or suggestions to further improve it.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:43, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
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:::It looks like this does not always load properly due to some timing issues in loading the page. I will investigate further as time permits.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
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::::Would this be enabled on edits that the user is using the visual editor? <scratchsig>Dogsmakemehappy</scratchsig> 17:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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:::::I did not test this on VisualEditor, but a cursory look indicates it would not affect VisualEditor since it does not use the same ID on the save button.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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::::::I think it should only occur in your second edit in a time period, like 10 mins. It shuld be a browser message box (like the leave page without saving one)<scratchsig>Ideapad-320</scratchsig> 17:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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The message is a browser message, very similar to the one you get when leaving a page without saving. It would be much harder to implement checking for duplicate edits in JS, that would require making AJAX calls, while the basic preview warning was a very quick fix.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 21:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
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== Page on mini-mods ==
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Are mini mods considered notable enough, as they are all over the forums?<scratchsig>Dogsmakemehappy</scratchsig> 12:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
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:I don't find minimods notable enough, they don't need a page, nothing more than a section in a forum article.<br>{{User:Geometric_ghast/Signature}} 19:13, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
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::Okay. Will probably add that.
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<scratchsig>Dogsmakemehappy</scratchsig> 12:33, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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== Micro:bit no devices found screen. ==
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{{not_done}}<br/>
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On the [[micro:bit]] page should I add an image of the "No devices found" screen?
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<scratchsig>Evanzap</scratchsig> 18:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
  
(Brought up here after discussion [[User talk:Jammum#About your Deleted Pages page|here]].)
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== Visual Editor is broken ==
  
So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:
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The visual editor won't work. Note:It is currently in beta.<br>
* [[User:Mathfreak231/Deleted pages recovery|Mathfreak231's]], which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
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{{not done}}<scratchsig>Ideapad-320</scratchsig> 02:20, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
* [[User:kenny2scratch/Deleted pages recovery|Mine]], which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
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:Could you please provide more information about the problem you are experiencing? I just tried it on my userpage and it seems to work. The only major known problem is it doesn't work on subpages.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 03:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
* [[User:Jammum/Deleted Pages|Jammum's Deleted Pages]], which are more recent than either of the above
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::That is my issue<scratchsig>Ideapad-320</scratchsig> 16:18, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
* [[User:Jammum/All Pages That Have Been Deleted|Jammum's All Deleted Pages]], which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)
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:::This is a known glitch and unfortunately there isn't anything we can do about it. Fixing this requires editing the Apache configuration, which we do not have access to.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:28, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
  
I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]].
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== Report about Spoofing Vulnerability ==
  
;Advantages
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''TL;DR: A bug made it possible for someone to impersonate other users and request Scratch Wiki account. However, no account was abused (as far as we know), and it was fixed.''
* More organized
 
* One place for all
 
* Can be updated by anyone
 
  
;Disadvantages
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On March 13th (today), I, apple502j, discovered spoofing vulnerability in the Scratch-ConfirmAccounts3 extension for MediaWiki. MediaWiki is, as you may know, a software which is used to power this Wiki. The extension was made last year and powers [[Special:RequestAccount]]. There was a bug in the extension where usernames were not properly compared, when requesting accounts. For example, it was possible to request an account named <code>1234567890</code> by registering a Scratch user with zero-prefixed name (<code>01234567890</code>) or exponential notations (<code>123456789e1</code>) and using that account in the account verification, even if the user didn't own the account.
:''None I can think of off the top of my head''
 
  
Thoughts? Shall we do it?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
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The CVSS3.1 score is 7.5 (High) by my calculation - CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:H/A:N.
:I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::+1 :) {{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::: Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::::To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?  <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
 
::::: I think the page will not be notable enough to go there. <scratchsig>Jammum</scratchsig> 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]]. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}I say aye.<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:: Are we going to do this? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Okay, I just created a page called [[User:TenType/Deleted Files]], was scrolling through the Community Portal, and found this discussion. {{e|:/}} <br/> Maybe this page could contain pages only and not files? (I really spent a lot of time and effort onto my deleted files page) Anyways, still waiting for a response on whether or not this project will be started. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Why not? It sounds like a great idea; let's get started. How do you guys find deleted pages anyway (just wondering)? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 15:00, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== “Secret” Compliments  ==
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Unlike other vulnerabilities, this one did not compromise security of existing users. We also believe that no accounts were requested using this bug. This bug is now fixed. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 17:10, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
  
We all know Compliment Tuesday. To suggest compliments we have the [[S:CT]] page. It’s a great way to compliment people, but could be even better.
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== About the block ==
  
Right now you suggest a compliment, everyone who wants to including the person who was complimented can see it and get posted on CP.
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Many articles on specific [[Reporter Blocks]] have paragraphs at the top with messages like:
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{{about|the block|more information on the value this block reports|Direction (value)}}
  
So I thought that’s good but you do let look forward to the CP post because you know if you have been complimented.
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There could be an <nowiki>{{</nowiki>About the block}} template (or one with a similar name) to take a value's article's name as its argument, and create a paragraph with:
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<pre>{{about|the block|more information on the value this block reports|[[{{{1}}}]]}}</pre>
  
I propose proposing compliments on a way no-one else can see apart from the organizer(s). This can be achieved by a Google Form.
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Such a template could be used on the pages:
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* [[Direction (block)]]
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* [[X Position (block)]]
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* [[Y Position (block)]]
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* [[Size (block)]]
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* [[Volume (block)]]
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* [[Loudness (block)]]
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* [[Mouse X (block)]]
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* [[Mouse Y (block)]]
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* [[Timer (block)]]
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<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 02:28, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
  
Proposed new method:
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== Auto Delete Old News ==
  
* Users suggest compliments on Google Form entering all details as they would before
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I was just going to random pages in case they needed editing, and found the page on the guidelines for adding news. While I was looking over it, I saw that it said to delete news items more than a month old. I was just wondering, why do this manually when you can have a bot that will automatically delete it? <scratchsig>PokemonRocks07</scratchsig> 16:26, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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:It looks like [[B:WM|WikiMonitor]] does [[Special:Diff/276235|delete]] old news items.<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 16:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
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::Currently we keep the news to the latest five items, and WikiMonitor automatically removes anything extra when updating the news (for adding the curator). Since we get a new curator every week, this means the news will never be ''much'' older than a month.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 16:42, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
  
* End of the month (organizer)s have admin access to the form and gather responses
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== Expanding 3D projects ==
  
* Posted in CP
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So it looks like a few users are creating more articles on 3D projects, so we should probably have a well-defined approach to this. We need to decide: what is worth including/not including, how will we organize them, what deserves its own article vs. being part of another article, and what amount of depth they should go into.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
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:By other articles do you mean the raycaster and how to make a 3-dimensional project articles?<scratchsig>HiPeeps124816</scratchsig> 15:54, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
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::I am talking about creating new articles as well. I mean expanding the ''idea'' of 3D projects, not just the articles we already have.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 16:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
  
This way:
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== You have not previewed your changes warning ==
  
* Users will look forward to see compliments received and not seeing anytime of the month
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Whenever I update my profile page, it has the extremely annoying "you have not previewed your changes" warning. I can't seem to turn it off in the preferences. How do I turn it off?<scratchsig>HiPeeps124816</scratchsig> 15:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
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:The warning cannot be turned off. It serves to make sure people preview changes before submitting edits and avoid making a lot of repeated edits (which happens the most often on userpages by the way). The easiest way to avoid it is simply to preview your changes to make sure they look right. If you ''really'' don't want to, you can simply dismiss the dialog and hit save again.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 16:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
  
* People will be more encouraged by the compliments
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== Weekend Article ==
  
Ideas?{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 07:28, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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So I was looking at the rules for making a new page and I was wondering if Weekend is a notable enough project to have an article on the Scratch Wiki.
:There are pros and cons to this... on one hand, people will be less self-conscious about complimenting if nobody knows it's them, but on the other hand some compliments either don't make sense if you don't know who it is or imply on their own who the person complimenting is. I do like the idea of looking forward to compliments rather than seeing them immediately, but the con to that is people might be disappointed if CT doesn't come out at the end of the month due to not enough people complimenting...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:39, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>Evanzap</scratchsig> 20:08, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
::I'm on board with this. I still would like to keep the non-secret compliments as a second option if we go about this. The main problem would be moderation. With anonymity, there is more of a chance that something mean would come out of it. An unwritten policy of CT is, if I see a disrespectful "compliment" it won't be included. If we were to use a google forum, we would have to have some way of knowing who compliment who, we can't just ask for a username since we can't verify it wasn't an impostor. Any ideas how to go about this?<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 11:48, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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:I would go with no, the only real importance of the project I'm are of is that it was the first project uploaded to the Scratch site (or at least the first one that's still there).<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 20:48, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
:::Perhaps (again) an extension? Special:ComplimentTuesday sounds like an interesting idea...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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::A redirect to a section of [[Scratch Timeline]] which was created by me a few weeks ago was deleted a short time after it was created. So, it might not be notable enough to have its own article. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 05:34, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
::::Guess who forked your report extension ;) (or possibly Special:ThankfulThursday :P)<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 12:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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:::I have been wondering similar things. The rules say not to make articles for tutorials, but I have seen several, so what are the rules about that? <scratchsig>Zebrastripesagain</scratchsig> 18:01, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
:::::+1 for a Special: page where compliments can be submitted and a way of suggesting public compliments{{User:Asqwde/sig}} 16:23, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::[[Scratch Wiki:New Page Policies#Tutorials|It is directly written in the rules that tutorials ''are'' allowed on the Wiki]] (though there are rules about what sorts of tutorials are allowed). I don't know where you saw in the rules that you shouldn't make them.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:37, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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:::::I saw that, I was just wondering about kinds of tutorials. Because I have seen platformer tutorials which I had thought were not allowed. <scratchsig>Zebrastripesagain</scratchsig> 17:07, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|5}}
 
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But also,Scratch and Scratch Wiki are growing up with "Imagine, Program, Share".[[Frequently Rejected Suggestions#Private Messaging|Here]]'s an rejected example suggestion:{{quote|Private Messaging
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The general rule for tutorials is they should not be overly specific. In my opinion (note that this is not official Wiki policy, just my personal opinion), platformers are general enough to merit a tutorial since platformer is a broad class of games. However, describing how to make a specific type of platformer would be too specific. The tutorials also should generic and not be tailored to how someone built a specific project, since that risks becoming [[S:NOSP|an article about a specific project]].<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
When communication is public, people are more likely to be respectful because they know that everyone can see it. However, when posting PMs, people know that only the intended recipient can see it, so do not think as much before posting. Even if a "Flag PM" function is implemented, the Scratch Team currently does not have the resources to moderate it, because of the reason said before there would be a lot of inappropriate/disrespectful messages.|Scratch Team}} Also,we can see other's compliments(Google Forms give this in finish of the form,right?).
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:I see your point, but I don't think it's notable enough either. <scratchsig>Jackson49</scratchsig> 20:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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::If you believe that tutorial is too specific or otherwise is out of scope of the Wiki, feel free to bring it up on the talk page.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 20:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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:::Thanks for the clarification! <scratchsig>Zebrastripesagain</scratchsig> 18:24, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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== Welcome Templates ==
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I haven't been on the Scratch Wiki in a while.
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Do/can users put welcome templates on new users' talk pages? Or should this be avoided?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 18:26, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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:Yes, you are allowed to put a welcome template on a new user's talk page. However, there is a limit of five templates per page (first come first serve), so if five other people have already left welcome templates on a given user talk page, do not add another one.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:38, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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::Thanks for the clarification.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 18:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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== April Fools cleanup ==
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Hi everyone,
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A lot of the [[Scratch Wiki:April Fools|April Fools articles]] have started to become kind of bloated, as people just keep adding more and more onto them. Going forwards, I intend to start trimming them down, since keep in mind that the longer you make the article, the less likely people are to read the whole thing. As stated in the April Fools policy, EW+ do have the authority to act unilaterally on April Fools pages, and I will use this privilege as necessary. I also encourage others to help me in this endeavor by trimming articles (in general if something was already featured for this most recent April Fools Day, feel free to remove/replace it). Also, I would encourage everyone to use proper spelling, grammar, and Wiki formatting when writing April Fools articles, even if the content is supposed to be humorous.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:55, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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:Also, another note: please stay on-topic. I know this sounds weird for joke articles, but please at least try to keep the content of the article related to a humorous version of the original article and don't go off on random tangents that aren't really related.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:57, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
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:I agree with most of this, but personally, I think that some of the articles have had too much cut out. For example, the page for the [[Scratch Wiki:April Fools/Scratch Cat|Scratch Cat]] has been cut to just two (very short) paragraphs. <scratchsig>Jackson49</scratchsig> 18:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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::What I did at the time was just a first pass, and I was trying to work quickly (and not really able to take the time to look closely). Certainly some stuff can be added back, but immediately making the article nearly as long as it was originally isn't going to help.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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:::Alright. Thanks for the clarification. <scratchsig>Jackson49</scratchsig> 01:10, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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== Images of alerts ==
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{{done}}<br>
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I recently noticed that [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/File:Scratch_Extension_Message.png this] image was taken in dark mode (probably with an extension enabled). I want to upload a new version of the image, but without any extensions. How do I simulate such an alert? Should I edit the HTML to make a normal alert look like an extension alert? or should I break the rules deliberately (using an alt)? or is there anything else I can do?
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<scratchsig>PUNNAMOODU</scratchsig> 12:21, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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:I'd always wondered about that image, I didn't realise that it was taken in dark mode! I would say that if you can avoid breaking the rules (even on an alt) to get the new image that would be the best, after all, if you use an alt to tell other Scratchers to use browser extensions, some might end up downloading an unsafe one, and you might also set an example for New Scratchers that it's okay to advertise browser extensions on Scratch. Do you already have a normal alert that you could edit the HTML of? Additionally, I did come up with another idea - I don't know how authentic this would be, but someone could edit the existing image (using Photoshop or similar) to change the colours? {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  13:19, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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::I don't think editing an image would give an accurate representation. Also, I had an alert in my test account which I never felt like dissmissing. I will edit HTML to make it look identical. That would be okay, right?<scratchsig>PUNNAMOODU</scratchsig> 17:31, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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:::Yeah, I think that would be great {{E|;)}} {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  17:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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::::I have updated the image. I hope it looks okay. <scratchsig>PUNNAMOODU</scratchsig> 18:56, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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:::::It looks perfect! {{E|:D}} {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  19:22, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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== Horizontal Blocks ==
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The user  on the forums [[post:5095469|suggested that we make an article about horizontal blocks]], pointing out that the French Wiki already has one. ([https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://fr.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Blocs_horizontaux You can see a Google translated version of the French Wiki article here]) I am hesitant to make that its own article here since horizontal blocks were never actually released, and we are not a Wiki about [[ScratchJr]] (we document that it exists and what it is, but that is mostly just contained within that article). However, it may be worth including in [[Development of Scratch 3.0]]. Thoughts?<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:13, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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:I agree that it shouldn't get its own article. I remember it being discussed in the early stages of development of 3.0 that horizontal blocks were going to be used instead of vertical blocks on mobile devices but nothing ever came of it... it was never included in any public betas. Keeping in mind that it was only really considered briefly at the start of development and was scrapped later on, I don't think it deserves anything big, perhaps just a few sentences at some point in the article explaining the concept and how nothing ever came of them - they were essentially just an idea. {{E|meow}} {{User:Redglitter/Signature}}  18:49, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
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== How do i delete my wiki account? ==
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i dont deserve to be here anyway, even if the blame is on my friend.
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{{unsigned|Imabanana22}}
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:We don't really have infrastructure for deleting Wiki accounts, but if you like you can simply log out and never use the account again. I'd recommend taking future advice from your "friend" with a grain of salt. {{e|:)}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
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== Extention policy and wiki?  ==
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Does the [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/284272/ extention policy] apply to the wiki?
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Hi i'm bobcat0701 i'm cool! 16:24, 8 April 2021 (UTC) {{unsigned|Bobcat0701}}
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:The Scratch Wiki follows the same rules as the main Scratch Website, so the rule against promoting or linking browser extension extends here. Also, when the rule was implemented in Scratch, a Scratch Team member deleted an article about one extension. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 17:27, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
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::In general, per [[Scratch Wiki:Guidelines]], all Scratch [[Community Guidelines]] apply here. Thus, the extension policy applies as well. The one exception that may apply (though this would need to be discussed for each case individually) is extensions that were advertised on Scratch before the rule came into place that were extremely notable in their own right. One such example may be the "Antidote," an extension which reenabled [img] tags on the forums while they were disabled for a period of time.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:32, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
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== Image Categories ==
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Is there a list of image categories so I can see which category my pictures are in?<scratchsig>HiPeeps124816</scratchsig> 16:42, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
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:If you go to [[Special:CategoryTree/Images]] you can interactively find all image categories. Simply go down the tree until you find one that fits your image. If there really is no category that fits your image and you do need to create one (this is very rare), make it a subcategory of the most specific category that encompasses it rather than putting it directly under something like the "Images" category.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:35, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
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::I also added this to the warning that shows if you try to upload an image without a category so others can benefit.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:36, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
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== Small software upgrade ==
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Hi everyone,
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We just upgraded the Wiki to run MediaWiki 1.35.2. This did result in a few minutes of downtime, but it appears to be resolved now. Please let me know if there are any issues. You can also use the [[topic:294197|forum topic]] if unable to post here.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 20:25, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
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== Testing ==
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Hi, I am new to the wiki! SO I am just seeing if this works :)
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Hi, I am mr-r-man, and I edited this page! 01:23, 9 April 2021 (UTC) {{unsigned|Mr-r-man}}
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:In the future, please do tests in the [[Scratch Wiki:Sandbox|sandbox]] (or for testing talk page edits, the [[Scratch Wiki talk:Sandbox|sandbox talk page]]). Thank you!<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 01:27, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
  
Shortly:
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==Question about a disambiguation==
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Hello. I wanted to make a disambiguation page about something. When I decided to create the disambiguation, I noticed it was a page before, but it was deleted for being a 2 page disambiguation. I found 3 pages that the disambiguation could cover. So should I make it or should I not?<scratchsig>TheTrillion</scratchsig> 03:50, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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:What page was this for?<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 17:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
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::I wanted to make [[Comment (disambiguation)]] which used to be a page but was deleted for being a 2 article disambiguation. I wanted to put [[Comment (website feature)]], [[Comment (programming feature)]] and [[Topics and Posts]] (comment on the forums) in the disambiguation.<scratchsig>TheTrillion</scratchsig> 15:30, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
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:::I think making a disambiguation page for that would be reasonable, and as far as I'm aware there aren't any rules against having a disambig if there are only two items, as long as one isn't obviously more likely to be searched than the other.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:00, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
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::::Okay.<scratchsig>TheTrillion</scratchsig> 21:17, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
  
*It's a bad idea because...
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== How do I reply to a talk page message? ==
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I'm just wondering how so I can say thanks to people who help me.
  
:*It means a lot of disrespectful or other bad messages
 
  
:*I have some questions about Google Forms security
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<scratchsig>Bobcat0701</scratchsig> 16:19, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
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:Edit the section where the message is, and then add your reply at the bottom. Indent your message with a colon (as I have done here), and if it's a reply to a reply, indent with one more colon than the person above you. Then, of course, sign your post at the end with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). Check out [[Help:Talk Pages|the help page]] for more information.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 16:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
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::Ok thanks <scratchsig>Bobcat0701</scratchsig> 16:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
  
:*Also, we'll need a lot code(if we'll use the Wiki for this)
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== Would this be an ok article? ==
  
:*And,we and Scratch Team have some notes about private messaging
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Would list of stickys in the forums be a good enough article?
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<scratchsig>Bobcat0701</scratchsig> 15:51, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  
:*If we'll try to check all of messages,it'll mean more time and more work
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:I'm not sure. Although the forum stickies would be a nice article, I have a few problems with what you're asking here. I'm going to list them here.
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:'''1.''' What forum(s) would be in this article? [[Announcements (forum)|Announcements]]? [[Suggestions (forum)|Suggestions]]? Maybe even [[Help With Scripts]]?
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:'''2.''' Would ''all'' the stickies be featured here or just the top ones?
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:Finally, '''3.''' Would this potential sticky topic feature the stickies of hidden forums (i.e. the [[Welcoming Committee Forum]])?
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:And that's all I have to say about this. Please, answer the questions, because otherwise this might not be an okay article. Thanks for reading.
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:{{User:8bitjake/Sig}} <div style= " class="plainlinks" title="Why does it go onto the next line like this? ...I don't like it.">16:35, 20 April 2021 (UTC)</div>
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1 All but read number three
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2 What does that mean
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3 I can't add that info since i'm not in any of those groups
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<scratchsig>Bobcat0701</scratchsig> MEOW yes my cat told me to write that. 00:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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::My two cents (not speaking in my official capacity as an admin here, just my personal opinion) is that this isn't significant enough to warrant its own article. Most stickies are by users (including [[topic:6986|one by me]]), and [[S:NOSP|we do not create articles about user-generated content]].<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 01:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
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:I think that would be unimportant. First of all, here is the lacking points:
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# Is it really possible to maintain an updated list regarding sticky topics? They generally tend to be replaced/unstickied when there's no longer a need for them.
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# It would be a kind of user-generated content. (as jvvg pointed out; though there might be dissident voices questioning this rule, like the opinions expressed in [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Relax S:NOSP even more|this]] stale discussion. Under the current policy, it's banned.)
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# I'm not really sure about notability, even though we have had a list like [[List of Scratch Modifications|this]] before the introduction of user-generated content ban.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 19:12, 22 April 2021 (UTC)
  
:*Anonymous and fake users have a big problem(in Google Forms)
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== Platformer Page ==
  
<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 20:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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Hey everyone, I was looking at the [[Talk:Platformer|platformer page]] and I was wondering, should we add 360 platformers to the example list?
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<scratchsig>Zebrastripesagain</scratchsig> 18:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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:What is a 360 platformer?<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 01:23, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
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::It's a platformer that goes in a circle, like [https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/412929584/ this.] <scratchsig>Zebrastripesagain</scratchsig> 18:03, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
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:::Yes, I think that makes sense. However, I believe that this question belongs in the [[Talk:Platformer]] page. <scratchsig>Jbthepig</scratchsig> 16:45, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
  
::I would generally discourage the use of google forms for this kind of project given that you are seeking input from the entire community. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:33, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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== https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/move&offset=20210321000000&limit=8 ==
:::I also disagree with using Google Forms because fake or anonymous users could abuse the feature. However, maybe Special:ComplimentTuesday could be the way to go... <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 02:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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::::Google Forms are out by multiple Community and Wiki G/guidelines. A special page is the way to go. @Ahmetlii: If we're using a special page, problems solved include:
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I disagree with these new titles.
::::* <s>It means a lot of disrespectful or other bad messages</s>
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:::::Compliments would be reviewed before being shown. Inappropriate messages are vandalism and would be treated as such. {{done|Solved}}
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These are not correct names.
::::* <s>I have some questions about Google Forms security</s>
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:::::No Google Forms. {{done|Solved}}
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These versions did not have any proper names, and putting the distinguishing term (14Feb04&#x2026;27Jul06) after the name "Scratch" sends the tone that the title might be an official name (imagine an experimental, informally-distributed Scratch image with everything colored aqua, having been a developer's experiment; "Scratch Aqua" would look like a formal, published name).
::::* <s>Also, we'll need a lot code(if we'll use the Wiki for this)</s>
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:::::Not a problem for me, it'll be fun! {{e|:)}} {{done|Solved}}
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I feel that the previous names were slightly better, but perhaps "[[14 February 2004 Image]]", etc. would be best, not looking messy like "5up3rcal1frag1l15t1c3xp1al1d0c10u5" nor assuming any version numbers not known to be officially assigned.
::::* <s>And,we and Scratch Team have some notes about private messaging</s>
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<scratchsig>Mlcreater</scratchsig> 02:12, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
:::::Compliments are shown to everyone - only who submitted the compliment is hidden. Not private messaging. {{done|Solved}}
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:These are the official names of the Scratch versions. Before 1.0, Scratch didn't use any version number system. Therefore, it's the correct name.{{User:Ahmetlii/sig}} 09:44, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
::::* <s>If we'll try to check all of messages,it'll mean more time and more work</s>
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:::::Not very much more, and @jakel181 has been doing a great job on CT so far, I'm sure he wouldn't mind looking through the compliments before he posts them.
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==FAQs and stubs==
::::* <s>Anonymous and fake users have a big problem(in Google Forms)</s>
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{{done}}<br/>
:::::Not with a special page! {{done|Solved}}
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Can FAQs be stubs? I remember somebody saying FAQs can not be stubs but I have seen FAQs that are stubs. So I was wondering, can FAQs be stubs?<scratchsig>TheTrillion</scratchsig> 16:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
::::I think a special page is definitely the way to go. I believe the following are the only questions to really consider:
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:While the criteria for completeness are generally much lower for a FAQ than a regular article, there is no reason an FAQ cannot be a stub. If an FAQ doesn't include enough information to give a complete answer to the question but does at least include something relevant to the question, that would be a stub.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
::::* Do we actually want compliments to be hidden from everyone (except the organizer and the submitter) until they are posted?
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::Thanks.<scratchsig>TheTrillion</scratchsig> 20:36, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
::::** If so, who do we want to review the compliments so that nothing is inappropriate?
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::::* Do we actually want to allow anonymous compliments? (Note: This and the previous question are two separate questions - the answer to one does not imply any answer to the other.)
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== How do you use Scratch Blocks on the Wiki ==
::::** If we do want to allow anonymous compliments, we will have to still also allow onymous compliments - people can just include their names in their compliments.
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::::This concludes my post.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:33, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
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{{done}}
:::::I think we should allow EW/Admins/Bureaucrats see in some fashion. (Maybe not all but a couple)<br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 12:54, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
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Hi,
{{outdent|5}}
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I want to fix the [[Raycaster|List-Based Raycaster tutorial]]. However, it uses Scratch Blocks, which were not covered in the Welcome tutorial. How do you use the Scratch Blocks feature?
* Do we actually want compliments to be hidden from everyone (except the organizer and the submitter) until they are posted? -Yes, they are. (I don't need it :P)
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Thanks,
** If so, who do we want to review the compliments so that nothing is inappropriate? -It's named as "be shy" :)
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<scratchsig>Jbthepig</scratchsig> 16:14, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
* Do we actually want to allow anonymous compliments? (Note: This and the previous question are two separate questions - the answer to one does not imply any answer to the other.)
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:See the [[Block Plugin]] article. Several sections cover how Scratch Blocks can be put into Wiki articles (and by extension, the Scratch Forums). {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 16:51, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
-No, we don't because S:JOIN-if somebody want to send a message, they must join and login to the Wiki.
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::OK, thank you! <scratchsig>Jbthepig</scratchsig> 17:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
** If we do want to allow anonymous compliments, we will have to still also allow onymous compliments - people can just include their names in their compliments.
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-They can use Scratch profiles to send a message - it's only a Wiki about Scratch.
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== Thankful Thursday! April 29{{th}}, 2021 ==
<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 17:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
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{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 037}}
:{{not done|No clear resolution}}{{User:NYCDOT/signature}} 22:35, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
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{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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The next TT is, May 27{{th}}, 2021 see you then!
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<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:43, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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:{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 13:43, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
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== Is the active user thing really accurate? ==
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It seems like it's been 72 active users since August...{{User:Leahcimto/Signature}} 23:56, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
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:According to [[Special:ActiveUsers]], we have 91 active as of the time I write this. I'm assuming you're referring to the {{t|welcome}} template? It uses the keyword "NUMBEROFACTIVEUSERS", but I don't know how that actually works under the hood. I can verify it's not just a caching issue, since running "show preview" on that template still shows 72. So, to answer your question, it is probably not accurate.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 03:52, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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::Looking this up, apparently [[mediawikiwiki:Topic:U7ol9r9cu75ak4yy|this has happened to others too]]. I ran the update script just now so it will probably start saying 112 for future usages, but I don't know how to properly make it update automatically other than using a cron job, and I would prefer we not use a cron job for something that simple and as a workaround for what may be a bug in the underlying software.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 03:54, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
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== Connecting my user page & april fools page ==
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I have my normal user page that I had added stuff to. [[https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/User:The_5th_Scratcher]] Afterwards I had learned about april fools pages and attempted to make one. [[https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/April_Fools/User:The_5th_Scratcher]] How do I connect the two so the april fools warning connects to my user page & my user page acknowledges the existence of my april fools page? <scratchsig>The_5th_Scratcher</scratchsig> 19:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
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:You need to put {{t|AF}} at the beginning of the April Fools' page and {{t|April Fools}} at the top of your userpage.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 21:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
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::I did... <scratchsig>The_5th_Scratcher</scratchsig> 21:37, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
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:::I just realized my subpage was for the April Fools Day article, not Scratch_Wiki:April Fools *Facepalm* <scratchsig>The_5th_Scratcher</scratchsig> 21:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
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== the camera is gone ==
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there was recently an announcement that the camera sprite option is gone. can somebody please edit https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Costume and remove the camera part?
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[[File:9gr icon.png|20px]]  | [[User:TeamDAB_Official|9gr]] ([[User_talk:TeamDAB_Official|talk]]) 20:58, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
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== Have a copy of the Scratch logo and the search bar image on the Wiki's servers ==
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During Maintenance Mode on the main Scratch Website (one is happening at the time I am writing this), the Scratch logo and the search bar icon do not load. To solve this, I think these logos could be stored on the Wiki (either as files here or stored in the Wiki skin's source code), if possible. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 10:20, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
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:[https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki/ScratchWikiSkin2/issues/90 I have reported an issue for this], thanks for letting us know. I have a fix but can't test it at the moment because ResourceLoader is refusing to clear its cache.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 23:21, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
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::This has now been done. Thank you to Ahmetlii and Kenny2scratch for helping me out with an issue I ran into.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 16:50, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
  
== Welcome templates ==
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== Scratch Week article ==
 
{{done}}
 
{{done}}
  
A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:
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So is a scratch week article in the works or should I just start working on it.
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<scratchsig>Evanzap</scratchsig> 18:28, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
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:There does not appear to be one. Feel free to create it.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 19:18, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
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::Alright I added it <scratchsig>Evanzap</scratchsig> 20:37, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
  
[[File:That's a lot of welcomes.PNG]]
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== Scratch Week on the news ==
  
10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?
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Should they put Scratch week on the Scratch News wiki page?<scratchsig>HiPeeps124816</scratchsig> 19:46, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
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:I added an announcement. Feel free to suggest any better wordings for it.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 19:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
  
To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.
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== Scratch's Birthday ==
  
I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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Scratch's birthday should have already passed by now. But when is its birthday? The Timeline says it's both May 11th and 15th.<scratchsig>HiPeeps124816</scratchsig> 16:04, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
  
:I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea {{E|:)}} I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
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== Should part of this page be deleted? ==
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{{done}}
  
::I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
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I noticed that [[Sorting_Values#Radix_LSD_Sort]] contains hacked blocks that only work in Scratch 2.0. Should I mark it as historical or remove it completely?
:::As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can {{e|:D}}? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::::While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::[[User talk:StampDanFan|It has happened again...]]{{User:Dominic305/signature}} 20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|6}}
 
maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different?? <scratchsig>Yaov_1991</scratchsig> 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:Can't we make a User_talk:ACCEPTEDUSER/Welcomes page?  <br/>{{User:Banana439monkey/sig}} 20:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::That doesn't actually cause a ping tho...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
 
:::We could make it ping though if there is someone willing to mess with the code...{{User:Smileycreations15/sig}} 11:00, 26 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::::I was just scrolling through the CP, and this caught my eye. Great idea, I definitely think this needs to be considered. I understand that people are just trying to be kind by sending the welcome messages, but it would almost be like a horror film for the person who owns the account. I think 4-5 welcome templates are enough, but I think there needs to be a break between even those. Getting 4-5 welcomes in a couple of seconds is also not the best of ideas.<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 17:55, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::We should ask new users for their opinion on this right after they get the welcomes. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 00:06, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::I think 4-5 is a good limit. I personally liked getting welcomes, but I only got 3 of them. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 14:49, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::::I'm a fairly new user, and I got 4 welcomes.  It seemed fine for me, so I agree that 4-5 sounds like a good limit. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 01:23, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|7}}How about one or two users post a template, or we just use the automatic one at the top, and then people below can put encouraging words (not large templates) followed by a sig? This would not be too much for the user, but still shows lots of people are there to support them!{{User:Dominic305/Templates/Signature}} 15:12, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:: Maybe we can create a welcome template, and a bot automatically adds it for every new user.  Any user edit it (just like an article). Maybe there could be in it for all the users that contributed.
 
:: {{#ifeq:|nobr|<br/>|}}[[File:VFDan.png|20px|link=User:VFDan]]{{nbsp}}{{link style|User:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=VFDan}}{{nbsp}}<span style="border: 2px solid cyan; border-radius:1px 0 0 10px">{{nbsp}}{{link style|User talk:VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Talk}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;">{{nbsp}}{{link style|Special:Contributions/VFDan|color:orange;font-weight:bold|text=Contribs}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border: 2px solid cyan;border-radius:0px 10px 1px 0px">{{nbsp}}<span class="plainlinks">{{User:12944qwerty/CPL|link=https://scratch.mit.edu/users/VFDan|text=On Scratch&nbsp;|color:orange;font-weight:bold}}</span></span>  19:21, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:::[[S:GOODSIG|Please fix your signature!]]
 
:::No, the point of each user having their own welcome template is for them to be specific to the user welcoming - a different message for each one. If they just wanted to add their name to a stock welcome they could reply to the {{t|welcome}} message added by default. However, 10 users posting personalized welcomes is a lot of different welcomes to read - which is why it needs limiting.
 
:::Seems like 4-5 is the limit we've agreed on; for the sake of looseness, '''the limit is now 5 welcome messages at most on any new user's talk page''' (not including the {{t|welcome}} message; does not apply to users created before this decision).
 
:::@Nambaseking01: Limiting the rate of welcomes is a separate topic that should be proposed separately.
 
:::This topic is now {{done|[[S:USERSPACE#User talk pages|Done]]}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Block Problems ==
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<scratchsig>Kccuber</scratchsig> 13:53, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
{{Not done|Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken}}<br />
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:I would recommend marking it as <nowiki>{{obsolete feature}}</nowiki> instead of deleting it, because than it can be used for historical purposes. <small>Also, when linking something, never use underscores, instead, use spaces so it can follow the style guide, specifically at [[Scratch Wiki:Style Guide#no-link-underscores|no-link-underscores]]</small><scratchsig>TheTrillion</scratchsig> 14:48, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Today I started to finish up the script for [[How to Evaluate an Expression]], and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else {{-}} it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in ''Show preview'' mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in [https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/292813/ this forum topic]? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
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::Ok, thanks! I'll mark it as obsolete.<scratchsig>Kccuber</scratchsig> 15:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
:The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::You can use [https://scratchblocks.github.io this page].<scratchsig>Ahmetlii</scratchsig> 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
::::@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...
 
::::@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks! <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== New Featured Images ==
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== Embedding projects on the Wiki ==
 
{{done}}
 
{{done}}
  
Hey! Soon, on August 12th, it'll have been a month since we updated the Featured Images yet. This time, I don't want to do them late like I have in the past, so does anyone have any suggestions? {{e|:D}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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Is it possible to embed a Scratch project in the Wiki? I tried using <nowiki><iframe src="link"></nowiki> but it does not work. Any idea?
:A photo of somewhere tropical. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 21:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>Kccuber</scratchsig> 16:08, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
::I don't understand - is this a joke (if it isn't, I'm not trying to offend; simply trying to understand)? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 21:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
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:I believe not. That is a HTML tag, and in the Scratch Wiki, only some are allowed. That tag is not part of the some. You can find a list of allowed HTML tags [[Help:HTML#Tags|here]].<scratchsig>TheTrillion</scratchsig> 17:11, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
:::It is. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 13:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
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::Okay, thanks. I thought there would at least be some way of doing this. <scratchsig>Kccuber</scratchsig> 18:02, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
:::: The _:))_ emoji. Looks nice and funny.<scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 01:23, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
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:::[https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki/mw-embedScratch An extension does exist to enable it], and some other Wikis (such as [[fr:Special:Version|French]]) have it enabled, but we do not have it enabled here because we have determined embedding projects in articles does not significantly improve their quality.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 18:43, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
:::::You mean literally feature the {{e|:)}} picture? I guess that works LOL
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:::::I'd suggest [[:File:Statistic Rollover Info.png]] because it looks cool and has a random interesting piece of info :){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 07:42, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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== Scratch3Bridge ==
::::::It's been August 12th, does that mean this discussion is now for the next featured image change? Or can this be archived?<scratchsig>Nambaseking01</scratchsig> 18:21, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
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What's Scratch3Bridge and how to use it?
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{{unsigned|Coco7nut}}
  
== Giving Credit on the Wiki ==
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== ScratchX on Scratch Extensions page ==
  
 
{{not done}}
 
{{not done}}
I think that we should make a template for credit like this: {{User:Scratch-Coding/credit|Scratch-Coding |template}}. It would be helpful. We could use the remix button image instead of the one I have. {{User:Scratch-Coding/Signature}} 00:09, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:When and where will it be used? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 01:05, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::What would you use this for, and why? The wiki is a collaboration and we all own a part of it. No one owns a article unless they created it on there userspace where they can so whatever they want with it.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 01:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Templates are mainly created for mainspace Wiki articles {{-}} when and why would this be needed? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 01:58, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::::It would be used on userspaces, giving credit for a image, and giving credit for an example. <scratchsig>Scratch-Coding</scratchsig> 17:44, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::You can use it on your userspace but I don't think it's necessary. Btw: What did you do to your signature? It's broken.{{User:Ajsya/Siggy}} 20:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::This wouldn't be that beneficial to the Wiki, especially if it is mostly used on userspace. I still disagree. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:05, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent | 6}} Who would use it? <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:08, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 
:Yeah, I don't think this is necessary. If you need to credit someone you don't need a template. Furthermore, you wouldn't need to credit anyone on mainspace, this is collaborative and we don't get/need credit for what we write here.{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 15:26, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 
::Giving credit is not needed in mainspace and can be done manually:<br>
 
[[File:remix notice 3.0.png|100px]] Credit to [[User:Scratch-Coding|Scratch-Coding]] for this template.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 23:41, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Tinkercad Codeblocks ==
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I noticed that this page about [[Scratch_Extension#ScratchX|Scratch Extensions]] contains a section about ScratchX, which doesn't work anymore as it requires Flash. Should I put the <nowiki>{{obsolete}}</nowiki> tag or write that it doesn't work anymore? <scratchsig>Kccuber</scratchsig> 13:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
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:In my opinion, I would recommend to do both.<scratchsig>TheTrillion</scratchsig> 14:40, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
  
Tinkercad has a new feature called Codeblocks that looks similar to Scratch. It has hat blocks and variables. I think this could have a page on this wiki.
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== PNG compression levels ==
<scratchsig>LiamSapp123</scratchsig> 19:47, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
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:Does it have a specific connection to Scratch in particular though? We don't have a page on Blockly, even though it's a similar concept (and even though 3.0 has Blockly code in it).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
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{{done}}
::Maybe we should have one about Blockly <scratchsig>Congyingzhou</scratchsig> 13:31, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
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What PNG compression level should I use? Pngs are always loserless. 0 is no compression, 1 is very little compression, but very fast decompression times, and 9 is maximum compression, but high decompress times.<scratchsig>Ideapad-320</scratchsig> 20:48, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
:::I agree that we should make one on Blockly. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 01:56, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
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:Lossless compression is ideal, thanks. 9 is best if you don't mind the time but lower is understandable if you have less patience.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 21:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
::::{{not done|Further discussion needed}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 11:11, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
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::Thanks! png is always loseless, and i can make a level 9 png in <15 secs.{{unsigned|Ideapad-320}}
  
== What happened to link previews? ==
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== Do I need a reference for this? ==
  
{{not done}} They don't seem to be showing up for me at all anymore. Anybody else?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 02:44, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
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{{done}}  
:Same here. Did someone turn it off? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:51, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 
::Also not getting previews (or at least when I tried it on [[Image Hosting]], linked above). I'll ping jvvg (since he was the one who enabled them).{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 04:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Any reply from jvvg yet?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 01:56, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
 
::::Have you found any information on this yet, anybody?{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 23:22, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 
  
==Scratch program image==
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Recently, I made [https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Discussion_Forums&type=revision&diff=281358&oldid=278912 this] edit. I have a reference for this [https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/427527093/#comments-198612724 here]. Is it notable enough to add to the edit?
{{not done}} <br />
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More importantly, its on a project. Can it be added?
The image showing the scratch program should be 3.0, not 2.0, right?
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<scratchsig>PUNNAMOODU</scratchsig> 03:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
<scratchsig> Mohie </scratchsig>
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:References that are projects can be added. I recommend to add this reference, since it needs proof to back it up. Basically, add references when you can (and make sure they are related to the statement).<scratchsig>TheTrillion</scratchsig> 05:32, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
:Not necessarily, we use the 2.0 version for historical references. So, we should have to images for this. One for 3.0, and one for 2.0.
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::Yes, comments are acceptable references if made by someone with the relevant authority (in this case, cheddargirl being a Scratch Team is a "relevant authority" on what the Scratch Team can do).<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 14:14, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
:Also, could you link to what you're talking about, please? It would be so much easier for someone to know what you were talking about easily.{{unsigned|12944qwerty}}
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:::Okay. It looks like jvvg already edited it, thanks!<scratchsig>PUNNAMOODU</scratchsig> 17:09, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
::He meant the picture of the Scratch program shown in [[Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents]] needs to be updated to 3.0. Could an admin do this? <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 23:25, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Okay... So is there going to be another section for 3.0, or is 2.0 going to be merged with 3.0?
 
:::And also, TenType is correct. I do mean the SW TOC.
 
<scratchsig>Mohie</scratchsig> 16:06, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Scratch Wiki Adventure ==
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== Should pages with many editors notes have them collapse ==
 
{{not done}}
 
{{not done}}
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Tall editors notes can ruin the experience for non editors. i have an idea for a solution: Collapse those notes. example:
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[[User:Ideapad-320/Sandbox/manyissues]]<scratchsig>Ideapad-320</scratchsig> 01:58, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
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:Do you have an example of a page where this is actually a problem?<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:23, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
  
On Wikipedia, there is an option for new Wikians to complete the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Adventure Wikipedia Adventure].  This teaches them skills and covers all the basics of using Wikipedia.  I think it'd be a good idea to create a Scratch Wiki Adventure of our own to teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki.  This would include editing tips, rules, etiquette, etc.  I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on this idea and/or if anyone would like to work with me on creating this.<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 17:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
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== Template:Collapse documentation is missing ==
:<b>+1</b> {{e|:D}} <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:41, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::I hope you're prepared to put in the amount of work involved, because The Wikipedia Adventure is really involved (I've [[wikipedia:User:Kenny2wiki|done it]] once before) and a lot of stuff has to be created for it to work. I like the idea, but I don't know if anyone here has the follow-through to actually focus on a project like this that could take a week or more to make.
 
::If you think you can commit yourself (and furthermore get others to commit themselves) you can make a [[Template:SWP|Scratch Wiki Project]] of it. Good luck!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 03:22, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::Woohoo; we got bureaucratic approval!  I think we can do it (maybe not ''as'' well as the Wikipedia Adventure, but still good).  I'll start thinkin' up some basic ideas to start us off.  If anyone is interested in working with me on this, please let me know on my [[User talk:54329|talk page]]. {{e|:)}}<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 05:54, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::: Isn’t this going to be a duplicate of the  [[Help:Welcome|welcome tutorial]]? {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 06:41, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::No, the Wikipedia Adventure is really involved and more interactive. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 06:44, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::::::Adding on, when I did it, it felt a lot more like a game/activity than a guidebook.  It allows the user to actually collaborate, talk to people and create/edit a page all in a sandbox setting.  It helped me learn the basics of Wikipedia far more than a guide could (probably because I was really interested in it and getting those shiny badges was nice).<scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 06:53, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|::::::}}
 
{{Scratch Wiki:Scratch Wiki Adventure/project}}{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:45, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:I can help some tech stuff maybe? {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 17:55, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::I can help too! <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 22:33, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::I want to help too, so should I add myself or should 54329 do it as he's the owner? <br/>{{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Sig}} 01:38, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 
::::In reply to both of you: Thanks for offering to help out!  I'll add both of your names to the list.  For future people that wish to help: feel free to just add your name under the "Assigned" section. <scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 05:11, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
 
:::::I just took a quick glance at the Wikipedia Adventure, and that looks cool! I created a very different page a while ago with the same goal of educating New Wikians using a sort of quest system - you can check it out at [[User:Bigpuppy/Quests]]. {{e|:)}} It seems like this would be very different than that, though. {{cool|Good idea}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 02:32, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
 
{{outdent|5}}That's super cool that you made a quests page.  This will be semi-similar.  Feel free to stop by if you have any ideas for it. <small>''wink wink''</small><scratchsig>54329</scratchsig> 08:03, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 
  
== Moving Plural page titles to singular ==
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{{not done}} [[Template:Collapse]] is broken. The documentation is missing. <scratchsig>Ideapad-320</scratchsig> 02:01, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
{{not done}}
 
On the wiki, there are many page titles like "Blocks" and "Numbers". This makes it confusing to users and editors, as well as links. "<nowiki>[[Block]]s</nowiki> makes a link to singular that appears plural, but there is no equivalent for singular-appearing plural-leading links.
 
  
This is a big change in the Wiki, so further discussion will be needed to manage the moves.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:07, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
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== How should archives for talk pages be crated? ==
:Could we start a Scratch Wiki Project? I  definitely think we should keep the pages consistently singular. <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 02:05, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
 
:: Singular page titles would seem strange, since the plural describes a general thing, there is not only one. Also, I fixed a spelling mistake. {{unsigned|Congyingzhou}}
 
:::Many page titles cannot be made into plural form. Having both plural and singular forms is confusing and creates other problems. Singular page titles are also easier to work with, as I said in my first post. Also, remember to not change other users' posts without permission.
 
:::Should I put {{t|move}} on the plural pages?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:29, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 
::::I'll put the template on as soon as possible (on the bottom){{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 03:44, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::Next time, don't add {{t|move}} to all of them; either move them all right away or wait. It makes a bunch of edits in Recent Changes which will all need to be undone when the final decision is decided. <scratchsig>TenType</scratchsig> 04:02, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
 
::::::So should we move them or not, and how will we do it? We will also need to fix many links and redirects.{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}} 00:05, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
 
:::::::Or should we just mark the pages and get a bot to move the, fix all the redirects and links, and change any other issues?{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig}}
 
  
== 2.0 Image Updating ==
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{{not done}} How should archives for talk pages be crated?<scratchsig>Ideapad-320</scratchsig> 02:04, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
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:Create an page at '''Talk:Page name/Archive ''n''''' where ''n'' is a number (start at 1, then do 2 for the second archive, and so on). Put all resolved discussions from the main talk page on the archive page and remove them from the main talk page, and then put {{t|archive header}} at the top of the archive page. Finally, put {{t|protect}} at the top of the archive page to ask an EW+ to protect it.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 02:22, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
  
A lot of images here need updating to 3.0. For example, the editor in the TOC, many Scratch Cats, etc. When will this be done? <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 10:33, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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== scratchblocks is updated ==
  
:I've asked an admin to update the TOC image. Not sure about the other ones. <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 16:21, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
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scratchblocks, a library used to render Scratch blocks, is now updated to version 3.5.1. This update includes fixes for block sizing. This update has already been applied to all Scratch Wikis. Please let me know in case any bugs are found.
::There's not a set time when this will be done. It will be done gradually. Any time you see an image that needs updated, feel free to update it (but be sure to compress, crop, etc. the file).{{User:EIephant Lover/Signature}} 01:49, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Thankful Thursday! January 30{{th}}, 2020 ==
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scratchblocks version 3.6.0 is also planned, and will include translation updates and support for Scratch 3.0 extensions. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 06:44, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 025}}
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:{{done}} see below for extension updates! {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:38, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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== scratchblocks is updated, now with Scratch 3.0 extensions! ==
  
The next TT is February 27{{th}}. See you then!
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scratchblocks, a library used to render Scratch blocks, is now updated to version 3.5.2. This update include support for Scratch 3.0 extensions.
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 
:{{done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 17:42, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Why won’t this table work? ==
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Now you can write the extension blocks, without adding <code>::microbit</code> for example. You'll still need to add in some cases where there is a conflict; e.g. when using <code>tilted [any v]?</code> block, which exists in [[Tilted ()? (disambiguation)|there different extensions]]. In most cases, they fall back to micro:bit extension.
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Link: [[User:Waffle_Iron_Studios/ScratchNet shop page]]<scratchsig>Waffle_Iron_Studios</scratchsig> 21:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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This update also adds icons for <code>::gdxfor</code> and <code>::boost</code>:
: I think it's because the table does not have any line-breaks. See [[Help:Tables|this]]. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 07:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Thankful Thursday! February 27{{th}}, 2020 ==
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<scratchblocks>
{{Scratch Wiki:Thankful Thursday/archive 026}}
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cool block::gdxfor
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boost this wiki::boost
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</scratchblocks>
  
{{quote|There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)}}
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This also updates translations, so new languages are available and blocks are properly shown in other languages. There is [https://github.com/scratchblocks/scratchblocks/issues/369 a known bug] that may happen in other languages when a translation is inconsistent, but this should not affect English. {{User:Apple502j/siggy}} 09:37, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
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:That's awesome :D{{User:TheTrillion/Signature}} 16:49, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
  
The next TT is March 26{{th}}. See you then!
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== What do <nowiki>__INDEX__ and __NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki> do? ==
<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
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{{done}}
:{{not done}}<scratchsig>Jakel181</scratchsig> 18:02, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== New Featured Images ==
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What do <nowiki>__INDEX__ and __NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki> do?{{User:TheTrillion/Signature}} 21:00, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
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:<nowiki>__INDEX__</nowiki> signals that the page should be indexed, if by default it would not be. If I'm not mistaken, it has no effect on this wiki because all pages are indexed by default.
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:<nowiki>__NOEDITSECTION__</nowiki> disables the [edit] links next to section titles (and possibly disables editing sections even if you manually try, though I haven't tested that).
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:You can read up on these and other magic words at [[Help:Magic words]].{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 09:49, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
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::Thanks!{{User:TheTrillion/Signature}} 12:51, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
  
Does anyone have suggestions for new featured images after these ones have run their course? {{e|:)}}<br/>{{User:Bigpuppy/Real Signature}} 18:52, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
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== How can I categorize something? ==
  
== IWB Interwiki Check ==
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I want to categorize something to make the bot stop sending me messages and deleting my articles. Do you know a way I can categorize a page? Thanks!{{unsigned|PizzaPizza72}}
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:Put <nowiki>[[Category:CATEGORYHERE]]</nowiki> at the bottom of the page. Also, articles do not get deleted because there is no category, it will be deleted for other reasons, which you can find by looking at the deletion summary (and bots do not have the power to delete articles, that is a power reserved for Administrators and higher (Experienced Wikians can also delete articles, but only ones that do not have a large history of edits)). Also, make sure to sign your post with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>).{{User:TheTrillion/Signature}} 00:16, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
  
Hello everyone. It's been awhile since IWB has scanned the wikis for interwikis to add, and now is probably a good time to do that!
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== Centralizing Text ==
  
Below you'll find a list of proposed edits from the bot. It would be helpful if a few people could look at some proposed edits and double check them for errors:
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Question is already in the topic - I'm having trouble finding a way to centralize the text in the editor. Apologies if I posted in the wrong place or if this was a duplicate of an old topic. I'm relatively new to the Wiki.
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<scratchsig>MasterofTheBrick</scratchsig> 04:18, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
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:Do you mean text going to the center like<br/><center>this?</center><br/>If so, use <nowiki><center> to make a text center, and </center></nowiki> to close it, so text after that will no longer be centered.{{User:TheTrillion/Signature}} 04:24, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
  
[[User:InterwikiBot/Proposed_Edits]]
 
  
Several issues have already been discovered:
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::Yes, thank you! <scratchsig>MasterofTheBrick</scratchsig>
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:::You're welcome!{{User:TheTrillion/Signature}} 05:30, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
  
* Not properly handling empty interwikis, ex <nowiki>en:</nowiki>, see the ja homepage
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== Another way to timestamp? ==
* test -> tw
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{{done}}
* The bot is proposing adding interwikis to other pages when they already have an interwiki for that language
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I am wondering, is there another way to log your timestamp? I want to do the custom signature test but i'm not replacing my current wiki sig yet. Is there some type of template I can use? <scratchsig>Kccuber</scratchsig> 15:26, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
* Help:Namespaces has a flat out wrong interwiki suggestion
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:Three tildas (<nowiki>~~~</nowiki>) produces your preferences signature alone:{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}}
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:Four tildas (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) produces your preferences signature plus timestamp:{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:49, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
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:Five tildas (<nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>) produces the timestamp only:<br/>16:49, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
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:If I interpret your question correctly, what you want is the five tildas. Hope that helps!{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:49, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
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::Yup, exactly what I was looking for. Already got it though :P {{User:Kccuber/Signature}} 18:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  
This might take another round or two to remove perviously undiscovered bugs, but with the wikis growing more complex, it's important to get them now. Thank you <scratchsig>ErnieParke</scratchsig> 01:37, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
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== What is staging.scratch-wiki.info? ==
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What is it?{{User:TheTrillion/Signature}} 21:40, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
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:I think that staging.scratch-wiki.info is used to test out MediaWiki functionality and extensions before they are used on the main wikis. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 05:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
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::Yup, exactly what jammum said. It was originally created so we could do a dry run of upgrading to MediaWiki 1.35 to make sure nothing would break, but it now is used for testing out extensions or other technical changes.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 15:36, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
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:::Okay, thanks.{{User:TheTrillion/Signature}} 15:41, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  
== Advertising article ==
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== How does Wiki Wednesday work? ==
  
We really need to overhaul [[Dexter_Industries_GoPiGo_For_Raspberry_Pi|this article]]. A lot of it is just advertising the product. For example, do we really need a "Buying" section? <scratchsig>Groko13</scratchsig> 23:17, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
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: Hello, I am semi-new to the wiki and would love to know how Wiki Wednesday works<scratchsig>JPANDD</scratchsig> 13:57, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
:[[Scratch Bit]] has also a buying section. But the entire page is just an ad. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 08:12, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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::On the last Wednesday of every month, we set a new [[Scratch Wiki:Featured Article|featured article]] and it gets posted on the forums. A number of Wikis in other languages do the same thing. [[Scratch Wiki:Wiki Wednesday Suggestions|You can suggest articles here.]]<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 14:15, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
::I've moved the GoPiGo article to the creator's userspace (which has precedent - see the last topic on [[User talk:DexterInd]]) and removed the categories & advertisement notes.
 
::Scratch Bit is an official Scratch product and must be documented. It stays.{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 08:28, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Sonic the Hedgehog ==
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:Thank you!<scratchsig>JPANDD</scratchsig> 16:34, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
  
Right now the wiki is saturated with Sonic the Hedgehog stuff, specially the AF pages. Lots of example of stuff are Sonic stuff. The entire wiki feels like an indirect Sonic ad. We should change a lot of this examples. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 11:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
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== How do I move a page ==
:Other than April Fools pages, could you give a few examples? <scratchsig>Ravenclaw900</scratchsig> 13:46, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 
::Just wiki search Sonic or Hedgehog. Also a lot of examples are by PrincessPandaLover and need to be changed int more generic stuff. <scratchsig>Scramaso</scratchsig> 14:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 
:::If I'm not mistaken, the Sonic stuff is limited to only AF pages. It's fine to gradually phase AF pages away from Sonic content while making other edits to the pages, but don't go mass editing out Sonic stuff. (Do note that I don't really see a problem with a Sonic theme in AF pages lol){{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 16:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 
  
== Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German ==
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I accidentally put a spelling mistake in my page: [[Project (disambugation)]], how do I move it? <scratchsig>TheClaw7654</scratchsig> 17:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
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:Select "Rename" from the pencil menu at the top right.<scratchsig>jvvg</scratchsig> 19:38, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  
Currently, the links under the 'Legal' category do not are not mentioned that they are in German. I suggest that the footer mentions that the content under the Legal category are in German.  
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== Are You Allowed to Include your .... ==
  
Without mentioning that, some people might be confused that they are in German, and not English. They also [[Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 105#Privacy Policy Article|cannot be translated into English]] without it being inaccurate. {{User:Jammum/Signature}} 13:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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... roblox username on you user page? Roblox users can allow anyone to chat them, not just their friends and so that could be linking un-modded chat.
:Why would they be German?<scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 16:35, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
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<scratchsig>Dogsmakemehappy</scratchsig> 20:34, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
::The Wiki servers are located in Germany and therefore follow the rules/regulations of Germany. <scratchsig>Makethebrainhappy</scratchsig> 00:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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:I think you've answered your own question. Feel free to report edits that introduce such information (go to page history, and click "report" next to "undo").{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 21:06, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
:::Would you be amenable to using the [https://example.com external link marker] on them instead? Putting "(German)" on a footer link seems unorthodox...{{User:Kenny2scratch/sig}} 10:33, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
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::But Scratch itself does allow Roblox usernames (and links - [[post:4285551]]). There is even a forum topic full of people sharing their Roblox usernames: [[topic:5086]] <scratchsig>Maximouse</scratchsig> 16:19, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
::::The servers are German because they are owned by Martin Wollenweber, who lives in Germany.<scratchsig>OurPrincess</scratchsig> 11:55, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 

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Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,234edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Done.
Updated the list as the author.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,234edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Updated!
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,234edit 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Updated.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,234edit 14:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Logging server faults

No Never Done

See dedicated subpage
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

March Featured Images

No Not done

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for March. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many... :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

404-Giga.png
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 04:06, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Scratch 2 Sprite Icon Info.png
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 01:58, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Note: We need to indicate that it's from Scratch 2.0 for the second image.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
21:05, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
3.0 Clean Up feature.png
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 23:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Surprisebutton.PNG
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 17:56, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
About Me and What I'm Working On.PNG
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 02:00, 23 February 2021 (UTC)


How do elections work?

So, I'm a bit confused about the Scratch Wiki elections. How do people vote? How is it decided when to hold them?
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

See this page for a lot more information about elections. Here is a very brief overview:
Elections are held on an as-needed basis and there is no regular schedule. The need is determined collectively by the existing EW+ by asking ourselves if the active EW+ we have now is sufficient to keep everything running smoothly or if we think we need additional people to help us out. We also bear in mind that holding an election is often a weekslong distraction from actual article editing, so we try not to have elections more often than we have to.
People vote on an external site that allows you to log in with your Wiki credentials to cast a vote. You rank the candidates from first to last, and then whichever candidate has the best average ranking wins (we usually select the top two).
When we do hold an election, we announce on the Community Portal (i.e. here) well in advance letting people know about the dates everything will happen. Then we will allow candidates to nominate themselves, and once nominations close the existing EW+ will look over the list and determine who we think should run. Then the selected candidates will write speeches, and then people will vote.
We do not have any plans to host an election in the near future.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:33, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

json Editing

Many pages have similar instructions on how to access the json inside sb3 and sprite3 files:

Page Steps Taught
Making Invisible Code extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
Hidden Blocks extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
JSON Tutorial extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
Scratch Lab#Custom Fonts extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
Layer (value)#Viewing the Specific Layer Value extracting, opening
How to Save a Project#Uploading a Project extracting, opening
Exporting and Importing#Scripts extracting, opening
Scratch File Format#Project Files extracting

This could be simplified by using templates with instructions for each step, so maybe such templates should be created.
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 01:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! February 25th, 2021

Welcome to the 36th Thankful Thursday! February 25th, 2021.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
jvvg (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks so much for the background work you do, from reviewing account requests to making sure our servers are in top shape to combating vandalism; I honestly don't know what the wiki would be without you.
    Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) | contribs (658) | directory 15:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks for all of your help on the wiki
    Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 04:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks for everything you do behind the scenes on the wiki. It is amazing to look at the patrol logs and how many revisions you patrol, how many users create, and wikimonitor.
    Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 18:37, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for all your help with cleaning up the grammar!
    jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:39, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
4096bits (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for all of your contributions to the wiki
    Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 04:01, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
mlcreater (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for fixing all those broken links!
    jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


The next TT is, March 25th, 2021 see you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:22, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

How are "April Fools pages" made?

Yes Done As that some pages have "April Fools Pages", I'm curious on making one. I am not sure how to make one. And I am curious on can I, as a new Wikian or even an Wikian, can make such a page. Do I need to be an Admin or EW? If I can make one, please inform me on the process. If I cannot, in what stage of Wikian do I have to be to make one? Thanks.
MitFieldatdawn (talk | contribs) 08:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Any user can create an April Fools page. To make one, create a subpage of Scratch Wiki:April Fools, although AF pages must be corresponding to a page on the Scratch Wiki which is not a redirect or disallowed (see the link earlier in this reply to find the link to the list).
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 09:43, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
I also just want to add that we do have some rules for April Fools' pages (in the link in Jammum's reply), please make sure to read them before creating the page.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:47, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Oh, I see that. So should I do something in the title that tells people it's for "that" page?
MitFieldatdawn (talk | contribs) 08:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
At the top of every April Fools page, add the {{AF}} template on it. It will mention the corresponding article for an AF page and adds a category to those joke pages.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 08:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Thumbnail issue has been (mostly) resolved

Hi everyone,

We have had an issue for a while where large files were causing the thumbnail generator to crash. I think I have resolved the issue, and have spot-checked large files I'm aware of and they seem to have properly-generated thumbnails.

Note that the existing policies about filesize are not changing, at least for now. Files larger than 200KB and larger than 1920x1080 (or equivalent number of pixels in a different aspect ratio) will still be blocked, as generating thumbnails for large images still has the potential to slow down the server and also cause issues for users with slow internet connections. Everyone is also still expected to compress images prior to uploading.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:43, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Can't log in to scratch

I tried to log into scratch this morning and this came up: Sorry, we've had to block all access from your network because it was used to break our community guidelines. The people in charge of the network may contact us at appeals@scratch.mit.edu (case #1534971173) for details.

I have absolutely no idea why this as I have not had any warnings from the scratch team in the last 5 months approx and as far as I know I have not done anything to break the community guidelines! What do I do because I am clueless? HELP!
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 09:19, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I believe it is an Ip ban bug but if anyone sees anything that I could have done can you let me know? Thanks.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 10:11, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Someone else broke the CGs probably
Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) | contribs (658) | directory 13:44, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
It says under Ip Bans that bugs have been reported about users getting ip banned unexpectedly for no reason.
Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 13:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! I just hope I can log into scratch soon!
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 14:18, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Hide 'Save changes' in the editor until Show Preview is clicked

This might not be possible, but I think the Save Changes button in the editor should be hidden until Show preview is clicked. If this is possible, this would decrease WikiMonitor warnings for editing too many times.

Apart from the possibility of this being a major problem, some users might be confused that the button is missing.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 18:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I think it is a good idea but I'm not sure if the change would be 100% necessary. There are some downsides but if someone thinks of a solution to those minor problems, then I think it is a very good idea.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 09:05, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
I've just had an idea. Well, one of the problems you said was that some users may be confused if the button is missing. Maybe, if it's possible, the button could still be there but not able to be clicked on until show preview is clicked. That way, users would still be able to see the button but not be able to press it.
Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 15:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Featured Images

No Not done I noticed that recently, the "Featured Images" are not changing. Is there a problem?
MitFieldatdawn (talk | contribs) 11:59, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

No, just nobody has bothered changing them.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:22, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Remove full name from a deletion log entry

On the deletion log entry for Xanderbeee, a full name is given on the preview of what the now-deleted article contained. Part of the entry's description needs to be removed.

(Also, would this belong in the Admin Requests rather than the main Community Portal?)
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 08:42, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't know what entry you're pointing to. Could you please be more specific? (If you wish this to be private, you can submit this in a revision report - if you can't report the exact revision, report a random revision and include the link).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

My talk page is glitchy

User talk:Ideapad-320
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 18:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

At first glance I don't see any problems. Could you please be more specific?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:29, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
Here is the exact location
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 17:50, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
That seems like an issue with the markup in the specific message, so unfortunately there's not much that can be done.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:58, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
There is another thread being used at User_talk:Asqwde#Welcome_template_not_working_fine
-unsigned comment by Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs)
The user whose welcome template is 'glitchy' is currently inactive, so it might not be fixed for a while. The glitch also happens on one of my talk page archives.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:18, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

RFC on Preview Warning

I have built a bit of sample JS code that will show a warning if pressing "Save changes" without previewing. You can see the code at User:Jvvg/previewWarn.js. I have done a cursory test and it seems to work (it by default ignores talk pages). It works similar to the existing sig warn tool and will show an alert if you try to press "save changes" without previewing. However, unlike the sig warn tool, all you have to do to bypass it is just close the alert and press "Save changes" again. The goal is to encourage users to preview changes to avoid having a lot of repeated edits to one page.

What are everyone's thoughts on enabling this globally? Also, if anyone has any ideas for how this could be improved, I would love to hear them.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:16, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea, but it would be kinda annoying if you just wanted to delete a space and you had to press the preview button
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 18:08, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
You don't have to necessarily press preview - pressing "OK" on the alert and just pressing "Save changes" again will let you save without previewing.
I personally would suggest adding a bypass on minor edits as well (though possibly disabling the bypass on the most egregious namespaces (though at that point it might not be worth having the bypass in the first place (just something to consider, then))).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
18:45, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
I have updated the code to ignore minor edits.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:01, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm OK with it personally, albeit I think that there might be users who disagrees with it.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:12, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
I think this could help prevent edits to a single page littering Recent Changes, as it is way too easy to get a WikiMonitor notification for it. Additionally, I think edits should be blocked (the edit should be prevented from being submitted, not having the user being blocked) if it would trigger a WikiMonitor notification.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:52, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────No, blocking edits would just make people mad. Oh, and how would you block the edits? AbuseFilter? Anyway, this could be useful but many people (including me lol) would just click OK every time.
Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) | contribs (658) | directory 17:27, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't think fully blocking edits is necessary, and doing so would either require some messy JS (that could be easily defeated) or using AbuseFilter (I'm not sure it's even possible to do this in AbuseFilter) or writing our own extension. I do plan to keep WikiMonitor in operation so users do get a notification if they continually disregard the warning.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:38, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm seeing no major opposition, so I have enabled the preview warning. Please let me know if there are any issues or suggestions to further improve it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:43, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
It looks like this does not always load properly due to some timing issues in loading the page. I will investigate further as time permits.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:52, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
Would this be enabled on edits that the user is using the visual editor?
Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 17:53, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
I did not test this on VisualEditor, but a cursory look indicates it would not affect VisualEditor since it does not use the same ID on the save button.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
I think it should only occur in your second edit in a time period, like 10 mins. It shuld be a browser message box (like the leave page without saving one)
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 17:52, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── The message is a browser message, very similar to the one you get when leaving a page without saving. It would be much harder to implement checking for duplicate edits in JS, that would require making AJAX calls, while the basic preview warning was a very quick fix.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:00, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Page on mini-mods

Are mini mods considered notable enough, as they are all over the forums?
Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 12:04, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't find minimods notable enough, they don't need a page, nothing more than a section in a forum article.
IhatrPicture.png Ihatr (geometric_ghast) • Talk Page • 325 Contributions 19:13, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Okay. Will probably add that.


Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 12:33, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Micro:bit no devices found screen.

No Not done
On the micro:bit page should I add an image of the "No devices found" screen?
Evanzap (talk | contribs) 18:38, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Visual Editor is broken

The visual editor won't work. Note:It is currently in beta.
No Not done
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 02:20, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Could you please provide more information about the problem you are experiencing? I just tried it on my userpage and it seems to work. The only major known problem is it doesn't work on subpages.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
That is my issue
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 16:18, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
This is a known glitch and unfortunately there isn't anything we can do about it. Fixing this requires editing the Apache configuration, which we do not have access to.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:28, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Report about Spoofing Vulnerability

TL;DR: A bug made it possible for someone to impersonate other users and request Scratch Wiki account. However, no account was abused (as far as we know), and it was fixed.

On March 13th (today), I, apple502j, discovered spoofing vulnerability in the Scratch-ConfirmAccounts3 extension for MediaWiki. MediaWiki is, as you may know, a software which is used to power this Wiki. The extension was made last year and powers Special:RequestAccount. There was a bug in the extension where usernames were not properly compared, when requesting accounts. For example, it was possible to request an account named 1234567890 by registering a Scratch user with zero-prefixed name (01234567890) or exponential notations (123456789e1) and using that account in the account verification, even if the user didn't own the account.

The CVSS3.1 score is 7.5 (High) by my calculation - CVSS:3.1/AV:N/AC:L/PR:N/UI:N/S:U/C:N/I:H/A:N.

Unlike other vulnerabilities, this one did not compromise security of existing users. We also believe that no accounts were requested using this bug. This bug is now fixed.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,234edit 17:10, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

About the block

Many articles on specific Reporter Blocks have paragraphs at the top with messages like:

This scratch wiki talk is about the block. For more information on the value this block reports, see Direction (value).


There could be an {{About the block}} template (or one with a similar name) to take a value's article's name as its argument, and create a paragraph with:

{{about|the block|more information on the value this block reports|[[{{{1}}}]]}}

Such a template could be used on the pages:


Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 02:28, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Auto Delete Old News

I was just going to random pages in case they needed editing, and found the page on the guidelines for adding news. While I was looking over it, I saw that it said to delete news items more than a month old. I was just wondering, why do this manually when you can have a bot that will automatically delete it?
PokemonRocks07 (talk | contribs) 16:26, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

It looks like WikiMonitor does delete old news items.
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 16:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
Currently we keep the news to the latest five items, and WikiMonitor automatically removes anything extra when updating the news (for adding the curator). Since we get a new curator every week, this means the news will never be much older than a month.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:42, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Expanding 3D projects

So it looks like a few users are creating more articles on 3D projects, so we should probably have a well-defined approach to this. We need to decide: what is worth including/not including, how will we organize them, what deserves its own article vs. being part of another article, and what amount of depth they should go into.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

By other articles do you mean the raycaster and how to make a 3-dimensional project articles?
HiPeeps124816 (talk | contribs) 15:54, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
I am talking about creating new articles as well. I mean expanding the idea of 3D projects, not just the articles we already have.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

You have not previewed your changes warning

Whenever I update my profile page, it has the extremely annoying "you have not previewed your changes" warning. I can't seem to turn it off in the preferences. How do I turn it off?
HiPeeps124816 (talk | contribs) 15:38, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

The warning cannot be turned off. It serves to make sure people preview changes before submitting edits and avoid making a lot of repeated edits (which happens the most often on userpages by the way). The easiest way to avoid it is simply to preview your changes to make sure they look right. If you really don't want to, you can simply dismiss the dialog and hit save again.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:28, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Weekend Article

So I was looking at the rules for making a new page and I was wondering if Weekend is a notable enough project to have an article on the Scratch Wiki.
Evanzap (talk | contribs) 20:08, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

I would go with no, the only real importance of the project I'm are of is that it was the first project uploaded to the Scratch site (or at least the first one that's still there).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:48, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
A redirect to a section of Scratch Timeline which was created by me a few weeks ago was deleted a short time after it was created. So, it might not be notable enough to have its own article.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 05:34, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
I have been wondering similar things. The rules say not to make articles for tutorials, but I have seen several, so what are the rules about that?
Zebrastripesagain (talk | contribs) 18:01, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
It is directly written in the rules that tutorials are allowed on the Wiki (though there are rules about what sorts of tutorials are allowed). I don't know where you saw in the rules that you shouldn't make them.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:37, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
I saw that, I was just wondering about kinds of tutorials. Because I have seen platformer tutorials which I had thought were not allowed.
Zebrastripesagain (talk | contribs) 17:07, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── The general rule for tutorials is they should not be overly specific. In my opinion (note that this is not official Wiki policy, just my personal opinion), platformers are general enough to merit a tutorial since platformer is a broad class of games. However, describing how to make a specific type of platformer would be too specific. The tutorials also should generic and not be tailored to how someone built a specific project, since that risks becoming an article about a specific project.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:48, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

I see your point, but I don't think it's notable enough either.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 20:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
If you believe that tutorial is too specific or otherwise is out of scope of the Wiki, feel free to bring it up on the talk page.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:31, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification!
Zebrastripesagain (talk | contribs) 18:24, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Welcome Templates

I haven't been on the Scratch Wiki in a while. Do/can users put welcome templates on new users' talk pages? Or should this be avoided?
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
18:26, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, you are allowed to put a welcome template on a new user's talk page. However, there is a limit of five templates per page (first come first serve), so if five other people have already left welcome templates on a given user talk page, do not add another one.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:38, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
18:51, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

April Fools cleanup

Hi everyone,

A lot of the April Fools articles have started to become kind of bloated, as people just keep adding more and more onto them. Going forwards, I intend to start trimming them down, since keep in mind that the longer you make the article, the less likely people are to read the whole thing. As stated in the April Fools policy, EW+ do have the authority to act unilaterally on April Fools pages, and I will use this privilege as necessary. I also encourage others to help me in this endeavor by trimming articles (in general if something was already featured for this most recent April Fools Day, feel free to remove/replace it). Also, I would encourage everyone to use proper spelling, grammar, and Wiki formatting when writing April Fools articles, even if the content is supposed to be humorous.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:55, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

Also, another note: please stay on-topic. I know this sounds weird for joke articles, but please at least try to keep the content of the article related to a humorous version of the original article and don't go off on random tangents that aren't really related.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:57, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
I agree with most of this, but personally, I think that some of the articles have had too much cut out. For example, the page for the Scratch Cat has been cut to just two (very short) paragraphs.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 18:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
What I did at the time was just a first pass, and I was trying to work quickly (and not really able to take the time to look closely). Certainly some stuff can be added back, but immediately making the article nearly as long as it was originally isn't going to help.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:10, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Alright. Thanks for the clarification.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 01:10, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

Images of alerts

Yes Done
I recently noticed that this image was taken in dark mode (probably with an extension enabled). I want to upload a new version of the image, but without any extensions. How do I simulate such an alert? Should I edit the HTML to make a normal alert look like an extension alert? or should I break the rules deliberately (using an alt)? or is there anything else I can do?
PUNNAMOODU (talk | contribs) 12:21, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I'd always wondered about that image, I didn't realise that it was taken in dark mode! I would say that if you can avoid breaking the rules (even on an alt) to get the new image that would be the best, after all, if you use an alt to tell other Scratchers to use browser extensions, some might end up downloading an unsafe one, and you might also set an example for New Scratchers that it's okay to advertise browser extensions on Scratch. Do you already have a normal alert that you could edit the HTML of? Additionally, I did come up with another idea - I don't know how authentic this would be, but someone could edit the existing image (using Photoshop or similar) to change the colours?
Redglitter Profile Picture Mini.gif Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 13:19, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
I don't think editing an image would give an accurate representation. Also, I had an alert in my test account which I never felt like dissmissing. I will edit HTML to make it look identical. That would be okay, right?
PUNNAMOODU (talk | contribs) 17:31, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, I think that would be great ;)
Redglitter Profile Picture Mini.gif Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 17:55, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
I have updated the image. I hope it looks okay.
PUNNAMOODU (talk | contribs) 18:56, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
It looks perfect! :D
Redglitter Profile Picture Mini.gif Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 19:22, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Horizontal Blocks

The user on the forums suggested that we make an article about horizontal blocks, pointing out that the French Wiki already has one. (You can see a Google translated version of the French Wiki article here) I am hesitant to make that its own article here since horizontal blocks were never actually released, and we are not a Wiki about ScratchJr (we document that it exists and what it is, but that is mostly just contained within that article). However, it may be worth including in Development of Scratch 3.0. Thoughts?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:13, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I agree that it shouldn't get its own article. I remember it being discussed in the early stages of development of 3.0 that horizontal blocks were going to be used instead of vertical blocks on mobile devices but nothing ever came of it... it was never included in any public betas. Keeping in mind that it was only really considered briefly at the start of development and was scrapped later on, I don't think it deserves anything big, perhaps just a few sentences at some point in the article explaining the concept and how nothing ever came of them - they were essentially just an idea. Meow.png
Redglitter Profile Picture Mini.gif Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 18:49, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

How do i delete my wiki account?

i dont deserve to be here anyway, even if the blame is on my friend.
-unsigned comment by Imabanana22 (talk | contribs)

We don't really have infrastructure for deleting Wiki accounts, but if you like you can simply log out and never use the account again. I'd recommend taking future advice from your "friend" with a grain of salt. :)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:02, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Extention policy and wiki?

Does the extention policy apply to the wiki?



Hi i'm bobcat0701 i'm cool! 16:24, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
-unsigned comment by Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs)

The Scratch Wiki follows the same rules as the main Scratch Website, so the rule against promoting or linking browser extension extends here. Also, when the rule was implemented in Scratch, a Scratch Team member deleted an article about one extension.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 17:27, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
In general, per Scratch Wiki:Guidelines, all Scratch Community Guidelines apply here. Thus, the extension policy applies as well. The one exception that may apply (though this would need to be discussed for each case individually) is extensions that were advertised on Scratch before the rule came into place that were extremely notable in their own right. One such example may be the "Antidote," an extension which reenabled [img] tags on the forums while they were disabled for a period of time.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:32, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Image Categories

Is there a list of image categories so I can see which category my pictures are in?
HiPeeps124816 (talk | contribs) 16:42, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

If you go to Special:CategoryTree/Images you can interactively find all image categories. Simply go down the tree until you find one that fits your image. If there really is no category that fits your image and you do need to create one (this is very rare), make it a subcategory of the most specific category that encompasses it rather than putting it directly under something like the "Images" category.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:35, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
I also added this to the warning that shows if you try to upload an image without a category so others can benefit.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:36, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Small software upgrade

Hi everyone,

We just upgraded the Wiki to run MediaWiki 1.35.2. This did result in a few minutes of downtime, but it appears to be resolved now. Please let me know if there are any issues. You can also use the forum topic if unable to post here.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:25, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Testing

Hi, I am new to the wiki! SO I am just seeing if this works :) Hi, I am mr-r-man, and I edited this page! 01:23, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
-unsigned comment by Mr-r-man (talk | contribs)

In the future, please do tests in the sandbox (or for testing talk page edits, the sandbox talk page). Thank you!
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:27, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Question about a disambiguation

Yes Done
Hello. I wanted to make a disambiguation page about something. When I decided to create the disambiguation, I noticed it was a page before, but it was deleted for being a 2 page disambiguation. I found 3 pages that the disambiguation could cover. So should I make it or should I not?
TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 03:50, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

What page was this for?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:28, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
I wanted to make Comment (disambiguation) which used to be a page but was deleted for being a 2 article disambiguation. I wanted to put Comment (website feature), Comment (programming feature) and Topics and Posts (comment on the forums) in the disambiguation.
TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 15:30, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
I think making a disambiguation page for that would be reasonable, and as far as I'm aware there aren't any rules against having a disambig if there are only two items, as long as one isn't obviously more likely to be searched than the other.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:00, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
Okay.
TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 21:17, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

How do I reply to a talk page message?

Yes Done I'm just wondering how so I can say thanks to people who help me.



Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) 16:19, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Edit the section where the message is, and then add your reply at the bottom. Indent your message with a colon (as I have done here), and if it's a reply to a reply, indent with one more colon than the person above you. Then, of course, sign your post at the end with four tildes (~~~~). Check out the help page for more information.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
Ok thanks
Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) 16:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Would this be an ok article?

Would list of stickys in the forums be a good enough article?
Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) 15:51, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure. Although the forum stickies would be a nice article, I have a few problems with what you're asking here. I'm going to list them here.
1. What forum(s) would be in this article? Announcements? Suggestions? Maybe even Help With Scripts?
2. Would all the stickies be featured here or just the top ones?
Finally, 3. Would this potential sticky topic feature the stickies of hidden forums (i.e. the Welcoming Committee Forum)?
And that's all I have to say about this. Please, answer the questions, because otherwise this might not be an okay article. Thanks for reading.
16:35, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

1 All but read number three 2 What does that mean 3 I can't add that info since i'm not in any of those groups
Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) MEOW yes my cat told me to write that. 00:16, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

My two cents (not speaking in my official capacity as an admin here, just my personal opinion) is that this isn't significant enough to warrant its own article. Most stickies are by users (including one by me), and we do not create articles about user-generated content.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:07, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
I think that would be unimportant. First of all, here is the lacking points:
  1. Is it really possible to maintain an updated list regarding sticky topics? They generally tend to be replaced/unstickied when there's no longer a need for them.
  2. It would be a kind of user-generated content. (as jvvg pointed out; though there might be dissident voices questioning this rule, like the opinions expressed in this stale discussion. Under the current policy, it's banned.)
  3. I'm not really sure about notability, even though we have had a list like this before the introduction of user-generated content ban.
    Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
    19:12, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Platformer Page

Hey everyone, I was looking at the platformer page and I was wondering, should we add 360 platformers to the example list?
Zebrastripesagain (talk | contribs) 18:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

What is a 360 platformer?
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 01:23, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
It's a platformer that goes in a circle, like this.
Zebrastripesagain (talk | contribs) 18:03, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I think that makes sense. However, I believe that this question belongs in the Talk:Platformer page.
Jbthepig (talk | contribs) 16:45, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/move&offset=20210321000000&limit=8

I disagree with these new titles.

These are not correct names.

These versions did not have any proper names, and putting the distinguishing term (14Feb04…27Jul06) after the name "Scratch" sends the tone that the title might be an official name (imagine an experimental, informally-distributed Scratch image with everything colored aqua, having been a developer's experiment; "Scratch Aqua" would look like a formal, published name).

I feel that the previous names were slightly better, but perhaps "14 February 2004 Image", etc. would be best, not looking messy like "5up3rcal1frag1l15t1c3xp1al1d0c10u5" nor assuming any version numbers not known to be officially assigned.
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 02:12, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

These are the official names of the Scratch versions. Before 1.0, Scratch didn't use any version number system. Therefore, it's the correct name.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
09:44, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

FAQs and stubs

Yes Done
Can FAQs be stubs? I remember somebody saying FAQs can not be stubs but I have seen FAQs that are stubs. So I was wondering, can FAQs be stubs?
TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 16:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

While the criteria for completeness are generally much lower for a FAQ than a regular article, there is no reason an FAQ cannot be a stub. If an FAQ doesn't include enough information to give a complete answer to the question but does at least include something relevant to the question, that would be a stub.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks.
TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 20:36, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

How do you use Scratch Blocks on the Wiki

Yes Done Hi, I want to fix the List-Based Raycaster tutorial. However, it uses Scratch Blocks, which were not covered in the Welcome tutorial. How do you use the Scratch Blocks feature? Thanks,
Jbthepig (talk | contribs) 16:14, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

See the Block Plugin article. Several sections cover how Scratch Blocks can be put into Wiki articles (and by extension, the Scratch Forums).
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:51, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
OK, thank you!
Jbthepig (talk | contribs) 17:06, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! April 29th, 2021

Welcome to the 37th Thankful Thursday! April 29th, 2021.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


Thanks

The Thanks are *drum roll please*

User Thanks
jvvg (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for improving the thumbnail-maker!
    Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 23:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you for everything you do on the wiki. You patrol most of the edits, go through the account requests, be an owner of a bot, improving the thumbnail-maker, and everything else you do.
    Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 15:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Jammum (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for your frequent edits, especially ones that are part of complicated topics because it shows your experience with Scratch and also shows how much you help the Scratch Wiki.
    Filmlover12 Icon 2.png Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 15:40, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
hiPeeps124816 (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for paying such close attention to blocks on the wiki! play sound (Clapping v) until done
    Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 20:34, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
Maximouse (talk | contribs)
TheTrillion (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for having interwiki'd so many references!
    Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 18:49, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
Pennharlowe (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for improving various explanations, especially a couple or so pertaining to programming. (And welcome!)
    Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 05:31, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)


The next TT is, May 27th, 2021 see you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 13:43, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

No Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 13:43, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Is the active user thing really accurate?

It seems like it's been 72 active users since August...
Leahcimto scratch profile picture.png leahcimto talkcontribsprofile 23:56, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

According to Special:ActiveUsers, we have 91 active as of the time I write this. I'm assuming you're referring to the {{welcome}} template? It uses the keyword "NUMBEROFACTIVEUSERS", but I don't know how that actually works under the hood. I can verify it's not just a caching issue, since running "show preview" on that template still shows 72. So, to answer your question, it is probably not accurate.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:52, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
Looking this up, apparently this has happened to others too. I ran the update script just now so it will probably start saying 112 for future usages, but I don't know how to properly make it update automatically other than using a cron job, and I would prefer we not use a cron job for something that simple and as a workaround for what may be a bug in the underlying software.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:54, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

Connecting my user page & april fools page

I have my normal user page that I had added stuff to. [[1]] Afterwards I had learned about april fools pages and attempted to make one. [[2]] How do I connect the two so the april fools warning connects to my user page & my user page acknowledges the existence of my april fools page?
The_5th_Scratcher (talk | contribs) 19:32, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

You need to put {{AF}} at the beginning of the April Fools' page and {{April Fools}} at the top of your userpage.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
I did...
The_5th_Scratcher (talk | contribs) 21:37, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
I just realized my subpage was for the April Fools Day article, not Scratch_Wiki:April Fools *Facepalm*
The_5th_Scratcher (talk | contribs) 21:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

the camera is gone

there was recently an announcement that the camera sprite option is gone. can somebody please edit https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Costume and remove the camera part?

9gr icon.png | 9gr (talk) 20:58, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Have a copy of the Scratch logo and the search bar image on the Wiki's servers

During Maintenance Mode on the main Scratch Website (one is happening at the time I am writing this), the Scratch logo and the search bar icon do not load. To solve this, I think these logos could be stored on the Wiki (either as files here or stored in the Wiki skin's source code), if possible.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 10:20, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

I have reported an issue for this, thanks for letting us know. I have a fix but can't test it at the moment because ResourceLoader is refusing to clear its cache.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:21, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
This has now been done. Thank you to Ahmetlii and Kenny2scratch for helping me out with an issue I ran into.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:50, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Scratch Week article

Yes Done

So is a scratch week article in the works or should I just start working on it.
Evanzap (talk | contribs) 18:28, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

There does not appear to be one. Feel free to create it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:18, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
Alright I added it
Evanzap (talk | contribs) 20:37, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Scratch Week on the news

Should they put Scratch week on the Scratch News wiki page?
HiPeeps124816 (talk | contribs) 19:46, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

I added an announcement. Feel free to suggest any better wordings for it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:51, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Scratch's Birthday

Scratch's birthday should have already passed by now. But when is its birthday? The Timeline says it's both May 11th and 15th.
HiPeeps124816 (talk | contribs) 16:04, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Should part of this page be deleted?

Yes Done

I noticed that Sorting_Values#Radix_LSD_Sort contains hacked blocks that only work in Scratch 2.0. Should I mark it as historical or remove it completely?


Kccuber (talk | contribs) 13:53, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

I would recommend marking it as {{obsolete feature}} instead of deleting it, because than it can be used for historical purposes. Also, when linking something, never use underscores, instead, use spaces so it can follow the style guide, specifically at no-link-underscores
TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 14:48, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Ok, thanks! I'll mark it as obsolete.
Kccuber (talk | contribs) 15:32, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Embedding projects on the Wiki

Yes Done

Is it possible to embed a Scratch project in the Wiki? I tried using <iframe src="link"> but it does not work. Any idea?
Kccuber (talk | contribs) 16:08, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

I believe not. That is a HTML tag, and in the Scratch Wiki, only some are allowed. That tag is not part of the some. You can find a list of allowed HTML tags here.
TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 17:11, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. I thought there would at least be some way of doing this.
Kccuber (talk | contribs) 18:02, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
An extension does exist to enable it, and some other Wikis (such as French) have it enabled, but we do not have it enabled here because we have determined embedding projects in articles does not significantly improve their quality.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:43, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Scratch3Bridge

What's Scratch3Bridge and how to use it?
-unsigned comment by Coco7nut (talk | contribs)

ScratchX on Scratch Extensions page

No Not done

I noticed that this page about Scratch Extensions contains a section about ScratchX, which doesn't work anymore as it requires Flash. Should I put the {{obsolete}} tag or write that it doesn't work anymore?
Kccuber (talk | contribs) 13:20, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

In my opinion, I would recommend to do both.
TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 14:40, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

PNG compression levels

Yes Done What PNG compression level should I use? Pngs are always loserless. 0 is no compression, 1 is very little compression, but very fast decompression times, and 9 is maximum compression, but high decompress times.
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 20:48, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

Lossless compression is ideal, thanks. 9 is best if you don't mind the time but lower is understandable if you have less patience.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
21:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! png is always loseless, and i can make a level 9 png in <15 secs.
-unsigned comment by Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs)

Do I need a reference for this?

Yes Done

Recently, I made this edit. I have a reference for this here. Is it notable enough to add to the edit? More importantly, its on a project. Can it be added?
PUNNAMOODU (talk | contribs) 03:57, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

References that are projects can be added. I recommend to add this reference, since it needs proof to back it up. Basically, add references when you can (and make sure they are related to the statement).
TheTrillion (talk | contribs) 05:32, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Yes, comments are acceptable references if made by someone with the relevant authority (in this case, cheddargirl being a Scratch Team is a "relevant authority" on what the Scratch Team can do).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:14, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Okay. It looks like jvvg already edited it, thanks!
PUNNAMOODU (talk | contribs) 17:09, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Should pages with many editors notes have them collapse

No Not done Tall editors notes can ruin the experience for non editors. i have an idea for a solution: Collapse those notes. example: User:Ideapad-320/Sandbox/manyissues
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 01:58, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Do you have an example of a page where this is actually a problem?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:23, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Template:Collapse documentation is missing

No Not done Template:Collapse is broken. The documentation is missing.
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 02:01, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

How should archives for talk pages be crated?

No Not done How should archives for talk pages be crated?
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 02:04, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Create an page at Talk:Page name/Archive n where n is a number (start at 1, then do 2 for the second archive, and so on). Put all resolved discussions from the main talk page on the archive page and remove them from the main talk page, and then put {{archive header}} at the top of the archive page. Finally, put {{protect}} at the top of the archive page to ask an EW+ to protect it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:22, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

scratchblocks is updated

scratchblocks, a library used to render Scratch blocks, is now updated to version 3.5.1. This update includes fixes for block sizing. This update has already been applied to all Scratch Wikis. Please let me know in case any bugs are found.

scratchblocks version 3.6.0 is also planned, and will include translation updates and support for Scratch 3.0 extensions.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,234edit 06:44, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes Done see below for extension updates!
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,234edit 09:38, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

scratchblocks is updated, now with Scratch 3.0 extensions!

scratchblocks, a library used to render Scratch blocks, is now updated to version 3.5.2. This update include support for Scratch 3.0 extensions.

Now you can write the extension blocks, without adding ::microbit for example. You'll still need to add in some cases where there is a conflict; e.g. when using tilted [any v]? block, which exists in there different extensions. In most cases, they fall back to micro:bit extension.

This update also adds icons for ::gdxfor and ::boost:

cool block::gdxfor
boost this wiki::boost

This also updates translations, so new languages are available and blocks are properly shown in other languages. There is a known bug that may happen in other languages when a translation is inconsistent, but this should not affect English.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,234edit 09:37, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

That's awesome :D
TheTrillion's Profile Picture.png TheTrillionTalk1,359 contributionsScratch 16:49, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

What do __INDEX__ and __NOEDITSECTION__ do?

Yes Done

What do __INDEX__ and __NOEDITSECTION__ do?
TheTrillion's Profile Picture.png TheTrillionTalk1,359 contributionsScratch 21:00, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

__INDEX__ signals that the page should be indexed, if by default it would not be. If I'm not mistaken, it has no effect on this wiki because all pages are indexed by default.
__NOEDITSECTION__ disables the [edit] links next to section titles (and possibly disables editing sections even if you manually try, though I haven't tested that).
You can read up on these and other magic words at Help:Magic words.
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09:49, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks!
TheTrillion's Profile Picture.png TheTrillionTalk1,359 contributionsScratch 12:51, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

How can I categorize something?

I want to categorize something to make the bot stop sending me messages and deleting my articles. Do you know a way I can categorize a page? Thanks!
-unsigned comment by PizzaPizza72 (talk | contribs)

Put [[Category:CATEGORYHERE]] at the bottom of the page. Also, articles do not get deleted because there is no category, it will be deleted for other reasons, which you can find by looking at the deletion summary (and bots do not have the power to delete articles, that is a power reserved for Administrators and higher (Experienced Wikians can also delete articles, but only ones that do not have a large history of edits)). Also, make sure to sign your post with four tildes (~~~~).
TheTrillion's Profile Picture.png TheTrillionTalk1,359 contributionsScratch 00:16, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Centralizing Text

Question is already in the topic - I'm having trouble finding a way to centralize the text in the editor. Apologies if I posted in the wrong place or if this was a duplicate of an old topic. I'm relatively new to the Wiki.
MasterofTheBrick (talk | contribs) 04:18, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Do you mean text going to the center like
this?

If so, use <center> to make a text center, and </center> to close it, so text after that will no longer be centered.
TheTrillion's Profile Picture.png TheTrillionTalk1,359 contributionsScratch 04:24, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


Yes, thank you!
MasterofTheBrick (talk | contribs)
You're welcome!
TheTrillion's Profile Picture.png TheTrillionTalk1,359 contributionsScratch 05:30, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Another way to timestamp?

Yes Done I am wondering, is there another way to log your timestamp? I want to do the custom signature test but i'm not replacing my current wiki sig yet. Is there some type of template I can use?
Kccuber (talk | contribs) 15:26, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Three tildas (~~~) produces your preferences signature alone:
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
Four tildas (~~~~) produces your preferences signature plus timestamp:
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
16:49, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Five tildas (~~~~~) produces the timestamp only:
16:49, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
If I interpret your question correctly, what you want is the five tildas. Hope that helps!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
16:49, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Yup, exactly what I was looking for. Already got it though :P
caption kccuber(talk:: operators)(userpage:: extension)(scratch:: sensing)(contribs:: motion) 18:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

What is staging.scratch-wiki.info?

Yes Done
What is it?
TheTrillion's Profile Picture.png TheTrillionTalk1,359 contributionsScratch 21:40, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

I think that staging.scratch-wiki.info is used to test out MediaWiki functionality and extensions before they are used on the main wikis.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 05:42, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Yup, exactly what jammum said. It was originally created so we could do a dry run of upgrading to MediaWiki 1.35 to make sure nothing would break, but it now is used for testing out extensions or other technical changes.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:36, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Okay, thanks.
TheTrillion's Profile Picture.png TheTrillionTalk1,359 contributionsScratch 15:41, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

How does Wiki Wednesday work?

Hello, I am semi-new to the wiki and would love to know how Wiki Wednesday works
JPANDD (talk | contribs) 13:57, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
On the last Wednesday of every month, we set a new featured article and it gets posted on the forums. A number of Wikis in other languages do the same thing. You can suggest articles here.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:15, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you!
JPANDD (talk | contribs) 16:34, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

How do I move a page

I accidentally put a spelling mistake in my page: Project (disambugation), how do I move it?
TheClaw7654 (talk | contribs) 17:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Select "Rename" from the pencil menu at the top right.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:38, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Are You Allowed to Include your ....

... roblox username on you user page? Roblox users can allow anyone to chat them, not just their friends and so that could be linking un-modded chat.
Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 20:34, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

I think you've answered your own question. Feel free to report edits that introduce such information (go to page history, and click "report" next to "undo").
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
21:06, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
But Scratch itself does allow Roblox usernames (and links - post:4285551). There is even a forum topic full of people sharing their Roblox usernames: topic:5086
Maximouse (talk | contribs) 16:19, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
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