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• S:CPND#Wiki Wednesday suggestion link should be on the left? - accepted
• S:CPND#Why doesn't the "CodeMirror" thing always work? - known bug
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Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,044edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Done.

Updated the list as the author.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,044edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Updated!
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,044edit 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Logging server faults

 Not done

Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Time	Errors	Details/Comments
8 August 2018	400 Bad Request 503 Service Unavailable	I was editing User:Kenny2scratch/common.js, and when I clicked "save page" I hit a "400 Bad Request" error. I pressed the browser "back" button (thanks Chrome for caching form data), and clicked "save page" again, and I encountered "503 Service Unavailable". I went back again, resubmitted, and the edit went through. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
10:26 AM, 3 September 2018 (GMT)	Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties	I clicked on random page asqwde talk | contribs 09:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
5:27 PM, 3 September 2018 (HKT)	"Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties"	I was literally attempting to edit this section. When I clicked the "edit" link, it brought me to a page that said: Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. (Cannot access the database) You can try searching Google in the meantime. Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
10:07-11:20 PM, 8 September 2018 (HKT)	Major outage across all wikis	Multiple screenshots: [1][2][3][4]this is the most useful error[5][6][7][8][9][10] Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
10:44 AM, 2 October 2018 (GMT)	508 Resource Limit Reached	Edit a user's talk page asqwde talk | contribs 09:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
4:40 AM, 2 January 2019 (CST)	508 Resource Limit Reached	Trying to create a redirect page.  12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
4:58 PM, 8:02 PM, 10:22 PM, 10:25 PM @ 3 January 2019 (HKT); 12:46 AM @ 4 January 2019 (HKT)	508 Resource Limit Reached 503 Service Unavailable File upload fail	Frequent outages across all wikis. Most likely caused by traffic spike from 3.0. kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
9:12 AM, 4 January 2019 (CST) 9:17 AM, 4 January 2019 (EST)	"Service Unavailable Error [...] 503 Service Unavailable Error" "508 Resource Limit Reached"	Trying to enter my talk, kept refreshing until worked, came to CP to log fault. Errors repeated until worked.  12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
15:02:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)	Fatal exception of type DBQueryError	I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page. Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
9:02 AM, 7 February 2019 (CST)	508 Resource Limit Reached	Trying to go to How to Make a Typewriter Effect.  12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
4:50 AM, 25 May 2019 (UTC)	HTTP error: error	Clicked the Show preview button while editing User:TenType/Header, when it did not preview and received the error. Clicking the button again resolved the issue. TenType (talk | contribs) 04:58, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
11:00 PM, 24 June 2019 (UTC)	"Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties."	Literally attempted to access en.scratch-wiki.info and a few other pages, when I received this: Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. (Cannot access the database) You can try searching via Google in the meantime. Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date. Waited for like 10 minutes while reloading and the error finally cleared. TenType (talk | contribs) 07:17, 25 June 2019 (HKT)

Could we have a dedicated page to that?
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,574)) 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Nah, just here is fine.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. (archives)
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Not too many right now.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

 Never done! Server faults will always come.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,574)) 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Do we not have this?
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:43, 4 May 2019 (UTC)20:42, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Known bugs is for the php bugs (mw bugs). This is for the server fault (connection problems).

Did you not get notified by ken's siggy warner?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:39, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Known Bugs is for bugs that are consistently reproducible (actual bugs); this is for faults that occur, sometimes randomly, that are not reproducible or only happen once (glitches).
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles to update for 3.0

 Won't be done for a long time

Hello everyone, it's already January 2nd for me, so I figure I might as well get the preparations started.

Observations/Edit Guidance

Pages outdated upon 3.0 release are incredibly numerous. In most cases, one or more of the following edits can or should happen:

• Parts that talk about 3.0 features in future tense (e.g. "there will be a new paint editor") should be changed to use present tense (e.g. "there is a new paint editor") or past tense (e.g. "a new paint editor was introduced")
• Parts that talk about 3.0 changes in future tense (e.g. "the editor will be moved to the right side") should be changed to use past tense (e.g. "the editor was moved to the right side")
• Parts that mention dates in any tense should have their tense updated (e.g. "the official release will be January 2019" -> "the official release was January 2019")
• Parts that talk about 2.0 features in any tense (e.g. "the paint editor has these features") should be changed to use past tense (e.g. "the paint editor had these features")
• Parts that talk about 2.0 changes in any tense (e.g. "the editor was moved to the left") should all be changed to past tense if they haven't already.
• Take this opportunity to update things that weren't changed from 1.4 days as well.

Progress

Here is a list of articles that need to be updated (on their real versions in mainspace) upon the release of 3.0. You can probably already start updating them now. Articles marked with an asterisk (*) have updates available at Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/the article title, but:

Warning:

do not copy articles directly from their 3.0 versions!

Though in most cases the information will be correctly updated, make sure to use your own judgement as to its accuracy.

Note:

Some of the articles listed below need to be created.

Feel free to update this list yourself. Add any articles that you discover that need updates; remove articles that have been updated.

• Blocks
• Change () Effect by () (sound block)
• Development of Scratch 3.0
• Project
• File:Name bar.png
• File:Offline Editor Share Icon.png

Remember to take this opportunity to clean up articles as well as update them!

Fix typography or other writing issues as you come across them

We don't want to have to make a second sweep to clean up all the weird grammar from tense changes. Remember to fix the grammar and spelling of the articles as a whole while you update them.

Ask for help when you need it

If a page or redirect needs to be deleted or you need some other admin action, leave a message at Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests. If you don't specifically need admin actions, you can ask anyone you think would know the answer to your question.

Here's to a good 3.0 release!

kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  05:40, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Oh I thought a bot would do it :P also are we saving old articles, for example Block Plugin(2.0)?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I thought we were moving 2.0 to a different place and 3.0 to where 2.0 used to be.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  16:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Removed some articles from the list :)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Should Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Front Page (2.0) be updated? It's so similar to Front Page, that it seems redundant to create a new page.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I noticed that many of the things needed to be changed were the same in 2.0 and 3.0. What should we do?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Please don't externally link to Wiki pages! And please don't use underscores in links.

I'm pretty sure it's the pictures that need updating. Would you mind adding all the files on that page that need updating to the #Progress list?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Nothing has changed between 2.0 to 3.0 in Front Page, Messages, Discuss, Profiles. (Maybe more but these are all I've been to). The Project page and project editor are the only ones that have.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

The front page has changed, they've just been using the 3.0 skin for a while. Notice how the top bar is bright blue there and on project pages but a darker blue in discuss and the profiles as well as studios. Messages have also been at the 3.0 skin for a while. My stuff (and everything in it, like trash) has not been updated either.
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 02:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Also I think "Images of stuff in 2.0 should be updated to 3.0." should be included.  VFDan  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  22:03, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

List of deleted pages

 Not done

(Brought up here after discussion here.)

So, there are currently four lists of deleted pages on this wiki:

• Mathfreak231's, which is the most comprehensive but is no longer updated in his absence
• Mine, which is a duplicate of Mathfreak's but hopefully more organized
• Jammum's Deleted Pages, which are more recent than either of the above
• Jammum's All Deleted Pages, which seems to be more recent and extensive but has the least information (it's only a list of titles)

I suggest (from jakel181's idea) that these become a single page in projectspace, something like "Scratch Wiki:Deleted Pages". This could be a Scratch Wiki Project.

Advantages

• More organized
• One place for all
• Can be updated by anyone

Disadvantages

None I can think of off the top of my head

Thoughts? Shall we do it?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:15, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I think we should! I like the style yours is in, snice it is more oragized, and a bit easier to find pages, so we should base the page off that.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:45, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

+1 :)
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 13:06, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Just to remind everyone, I have not finished my "All Deleted Pages" page at the time of posting this message. It will be contributed to frequently.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 14:55, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

To Kenny2Scratch: This will be a great idea, as it will make it more accessible to people. If this get made, maybe put it could be put in the "Navigation" box on the side?
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

I think the page will not be notable enough to go there.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 07:02, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

I don't think it goes in the sidebar, it's not that important; however, come to think of it, this is a nice candidate for a Scratch Wiki Project. Thinkest you that this is a suitable mission to embark upon?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘I say aye.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:27, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

@Kenny2scratch, let's do that!
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Are we going to do this?
Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 11:11, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I just created a page called User:TenType/Deleted Files, was scrolling through the Community Portal, and found this discussion.
Maybe this page could contain pages only and not files? (I really spent a lot of time and effort onto my deleted files page) Anyways, still waiting for a response on whether or not this project will be started.
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

“Secret” Compliments

We all know Compliment Tuesday. To suggest compliments we have the S:CT page. It’s a great way to compliment people, but could be even better.

Right now you suggest a compliment, everyone who wants to including the person who was complimented can see it and get posted on CP.

So I thought that’s good but you do let look forward to the CP post because you know if you have been complimented.

I propose proposing compliments on a way no-one else can see apart from the organizer(s). This can be achieved by a Google Form.

Proposed new method:

• Users suggest compliments on Google Form entering all details as they would before

• End of the month (organizer)s have admin access to the form and gather responses

• Posted in CP

This way:

• Users will look forward to see compliments received and not seeing anytime of the month

• People will be more encouraged by the compliments

Ideas?
asqwde talk | contribs 07:28, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

There are pros and cons to this... on one hand, people will be less self-conscious about complimenting if nobody knows it's them, but on the other hand some compliments either don't make sense if you don't know who it is or imply on their own who the person complimenting is. I do like the idea of looking forward to compliments rather than seeing them immediately, but the con to that is people might be disappointed if CT doesn't come out at the end of the month due to not enough people complimenting...
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  07:39, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I'm on board with this. I still would like to keep the non-secret compliments as a second option if we go about this. The main problem would be moderation. With anonymity, there is more of a chance that something mean would come out of it. An unwritten policy of CT is, if I see a disrespectful "compliment" it won't be included. If we were to use a google forum, we would have to have some way of knowing who compliment who, we can't just ask for a username since we can't verify it wasn't an impostor. Any ideas how to go about this?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:48, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps (again) an extension? Special:ComplimentTuesday sounds like an interesting idea...
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Guess who forked your report extension ;) (or possibly Special:ThankfulThursday :P)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

+1 for a Special: page where compliments can be submitted and a way of suggesting public compliments
asqwde talk | contribs 16:23, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ But also,Scratch and Scratch Wiki are growing up with "Imagine, Program, Share".Here's an rejected example suggestion:

“	Private Messaging When communication is public, people are more likely to be respectful because they know that everyone can see it. However, when posting PMs, people know that only the intended recipient can see it, so do not think as much before posting. Even if a "Flag PM" function is implemented, the Scratch Team currently does not have the resources to moderate it, because of the reason said before there would be a lot of inappropriate/disrespectful messages.	”
– Scratch Team

Also,we can see other's compliments(Google Forms give this in finish of the form,right?).

Shortly:

• It's a bad idea because...

• It means a lot of disrespectful or other bad messages

• I have some questions about Google Forms security

• Also, we'll need a lot code(if we'll use the Wiki for this)

• And,we and Scratch Team have some notes about private messaging

• If we'll try to check all of messages,it'll mean more time and more work

• Anonymous and fake users have a big problem(in Google Forms)

Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 20:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I would generally discourage the use of google forms for this kind of project given that you are seeking input from the entire community.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:33, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

I also disagree with using Google Forms because fake or anonymous users could abuse the feature. However, maybe Special:ComplimentTuesday could be the way to go...
TenType (talk | contribs) 02:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Google Forms are out by multiple Community and Wiki G/guidelines. A special page is the way to go. @Ahmetlii: If we're using a special page, problems solved include:

• It means a lot of disrespectful or other bad messages

Compliments would be reviewed before being shown. Inappropriate messages are vandalism and would be treated as such.  Solved

• I have some questions about Google Forms security

No Google Forms.  Solved

• Also, we'll need a lot code(if we'll use the Wiki for this)

Not a problem for me, it'll be fun!  Solved

• And,we and Scratch Team have some notes about private messaging

Compliments are shown to everyone - only who submitted the compliment is hidden. Not private messaging.  Solved

• If we'll try to check all of messages,it'll mean more time and more work

Not very much more, and @jakel181 has been doing a great job on CT so far, I'm sure he wouldn't mind looking through the compliments before he posts them.

• Anonymous and fake users have a big problem(in Google Forms)

Not with a special page!  Solved

I think a special page is definitely the way to go. I believe the following are the only questions to really consider:

• Do we actually want compliments to be hidden from everyone (except the organizer and the submitter) until they are posted?
  • If so, who do we want to review the compliments so that nothing is inappropriate?
• Do we actually want to allow anonymous compliments? (Note: This and the previous question are two separate questions - the answer to one does not imply any answer to the other.)
  • If we do want to allow anonymous compliments, we will have to still also allow onymous compliments - people can just include their names in their compliments.

This concludes my post.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:33, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

I think we should allow EW/Admins/Bureaucrats see in some fashion. (Maybe not all but a couple)
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  12:54, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

• Do we actually want compliments to be hidden from everyone (except the organizer and the submitter) until they are posted? -Yes, they are. (I don't need it :P)
  • If so, who do we want to review the compliments so that nothing is inappropriate? -It's named as "be shy" :)
• Do we actually want to allow anonymous compliments? (Note: This and the previous question are two separate questions - the answer to one does not imply any answer to the other.)

-No, we don't because S:JOIN-if somebody want to send a message, they must join and login to the Wiki.

• • If we do want to allow anonymous compliments, we will have to still also allow onymous compliments - people can just include their names in their compliments.

-They can use Scratch profiles to send a message - it's only a Wiki about Scratch.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 17:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

Welcome templates

 Limit not yet negotiated

A lot of people have their own "welcome" templates that they post on new users' talk pages. This is a great idea, because new users can get to know new people and, of course, feel welcomed. However, the welcoming effect starts diminishing when things like this happen:

10 different people jumping on the new user is too much - it's not welcoming, it's downright scary! How would you feel if you created an account somewhere and you were confronted with a wall of "welcome"s?

To counteract this, I don't propose forbidding welcomes entirely; what I instead think should be the case is that we have a limit on how many welcome messages can be on a talk page - probably around 4-5 at the most. That does mean it turns into a race as to who can get their message on first, but that can't be helped - if you want to get your message in, ya gotta be active at the right time.

I don't think there's much room for debate on the necessity of the limit, but what can be bargained is the limit itself - how many topics do you think is too many?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  07:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I think that a limit of 4-5 is a great idea I still remember when I started the messages really confused me. Also, I'd say that if you post a welcome message, it should have a variation of the simple title "Welcome!". I tried to make mine a bit different. I like the "All aboard!" one. Maybe we could say if there are more than eight messages already, really don't put one, but if there are 4-5 try not to put your template, but a personal message is okay.
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  21:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

I see this level of enthusiasm as very exciting. While it may be a little intimidating, I look at it more as a great way to integrate yourself with the community immediately and meeting many of the people who you will be working with side-by-side. Nonetheless, I would love to see more data on this and interview some people on their experiences regarding this to see if it does have a negative impact.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

As we are bargaining for this, I was just wondering what we'll be doing now. Should we be limiting welcomes now? Or do we continue welcoming as much as we can ?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:37, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

While the rule is still merely proposed, it is not yet a rule. Welcomes are unlimited until this is put in force.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:11, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

It has happened again...
 Dominic305  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  20:10, 14 May 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ maybe a way to avoid this is to make the section named a bit different??
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:42, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Can't we make a User_talk:ACCEPTEDUSER/Welcomes page?
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,574)) 20:34, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

That doesn't actually cause a ping tho...
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:10, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Block Problems

 Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken
Today I started to finish up the script for How to Evaluate an Expression, and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else — it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in Show preview mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in this forum topic?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

The blocks still don't match the one in the post, I tried again on my sandbox and it still does not cut out. Anyone who is an expert at doing this?
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

You can use this page.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 07:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Curse Garamol56 for not using forum scratchblocks!
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

@Ahmetlii That website may come in handy...

@kenny2scratch Yes, it is so exhausting to convert it into proper scratchblocks!
TenType (talk | contribs) 19:07, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

TinyPic is closing down

I'm not sure how many pages this messes up but you should all know that TinyPic is closing down :(
ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  19:52, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Dang, could you name some examples of pages that use TinyPic?
1a3c5e7g9i^{(Talk|Contributions)} 23:49, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

In case you don't know: Scratch Wiki has its own image hosting (Wiki server) and does not use TinyPic(or cubeupload or anything else) at all.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,044edit 03:11, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@1a3c5e7g9i I forget the names right now, but theres one about image hosting I know for sure.

@Apple502j I know, but there are informational pages that will be incorrect.
ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  14:10, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

It looks like Jammum updated Image Hosting: see Special:Redirect/revision/231829.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 14:58, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

AF Link Proposal

For April Fools pages, could we convert regular links in the page to the April Fools one instead, if possible?

But we shouldn't go on a massive editing spree for this - only change the links if we stumble upon them or add new ones.
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:17, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

I think that depends on the person that creates the page, but I think that April Fools pages aren't that huge of a deal to change every link, even if stumbled upon. Also, most pages don't have an alternate April Fools page to begin with.
 Jedibrine  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  05:48, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

Support.

smileycreations15 (talk | contribs) 12:04, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

@Jedibrine: Sorry, by "stumbling upon", I meant when we add/modify the contents of an AF page. I don't want too many edits of just converting links.

Also, this will make AF pages more lively and humorous in a way. I myself have been disappointed in the past clicking on a link on an AF page, but found out that it led to a regular article.

And even if there isn't an alternate AF page, so what? We could just add the regular link for now, and then when it gets created, we could change it.
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:03, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

I thought that on April Fools Day, then if you clicked a link, it would lead to the April Fools version of that page if there is one...
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  22:28, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

No no, that's not what I meant. What I meant was when you click on a link that's on an AF page, it leads you to the regular page, and my proposal is that we should change those links (once again on AF pages) to lead to the AF version of the link, if possible. Even if this could be rendered useless on April 1^st, it still would be more humorous for users who browse AF pages.
TenType (talk | contribs) 00:48, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I don't think this is a good idea. What benefit will this bring? This change would mean that on AF Day, every mainspace page would be linking to the AF subpage instead of linking to other real pages. Then any normal user would suddenly be taken to some cryptic page titled "Scratch Wiki:April Fools/Ignatious Q. Higgenbotham" and not know what they were looking at. Plus, the {{April Fools}} template (which is on every mainspace page with an AF version) shows a header saying "this is a joke, scroll to the bottom for the real article"; the {{AF}} template (which is on the AF versions of mainspace pages) does not. Linking to AF versions from mainspace would remove the ability for educators, New Scratchers, and other members of our audience to get some serious help that they just happened to need on AF Day.

That's my two cents.

BTW, @TenType, there's a shortcut for {{th}} for 1, it's {{st}}. There are also {{nd}} and {{rd}} for convenience.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:17, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't think everyone knows what I'm saying. Only on AF pages should we link to other AF pages; why would we link AF pages from mainspace?
TenType (talk | contribs) 16:04, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Dude. AF pages get transcluded into mainspace on AF Day. The links remain unchanged upon transclusion.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  16:09, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Welp, yes, but this would also benefit users who browse AF pages when it's not AF day.
TenType (talk | contribs) 17:51, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't really know that many people that browse AF pages outside of AF day, and there are ways for people to access AF pages if they really need to. If people want to reach a page on AF day, all they will find are AF pages.
 Jedibrine  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  04:03, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

I've made a change to the {{April Fools}} template (the one that goes on mainspace) so that it shows a little icon in the top right that links to the AF version. That should make things easier for the minority that browses AF pages, which substitutes the only real benefit of this; therefore I shall consider this  Done.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:26, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! August 1^th, 2019

Welcome to the 21^st Thankful Thursday! August 1^st, 2019.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Thankful Thursday

Compliments

The Compliments are *drum roll please*

User	Thanks
Mrcomputer1 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for fixing the redirects I broke! Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 04:15, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
4199531979353717123 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for improving () of () (Operators block). Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 04:15, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
TenType (talk | contribs)	Thank you for always helping me and fixing my mistakes! ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  01:49, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
jvvg (talk | contribs)	Thank you so muchfor helping patrol the substantial amount of edits, you're a legend! <333 banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,574)) 18:41, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)	Thank you for adding my signature to Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Logging server faults when I forgot it! TenType (talk | contribs) 16:46, 26 June 2019 (UTC) Thanks for helping me when I was new to the wiki! Scratch-Coding (talk | contribs) 12:45, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

“

There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

”

The next TT is August 29^th. See you then!

Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

 Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:10, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Isn't that supposed to be August 1^st?
TenType (talk | contribs) 17:54, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Split Help talk:Welcome/4

Help talk:Welcome/4 is used by new Wikians to test out using talk pages. But, there is also a real discussion on the page named 'Blanking' (although before the actual discussion, there are a few talk page tests).

I suggest that all test discussions should be moved to its own talk page (that is a sub-page of the real talk page), which could be named something like 'Help talk:Welcome/4/Testing'.
Jammum (💬 Talk - 🔧 Contribs) 07:28, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

New Featured Images

 Not done

Hey! Soon, on August 12th, it'll have been a month since we updated the Featured Images yet. This time, I don't want to do them late like I have in the past, so does anyone have any suggestions?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:56, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

A photo of somewhere tropical.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:03, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

I don't understand - is this a joke (if it isn't, I'm not trying to offend; simply trying to understand)?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:32, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

It is.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 13:26, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

A-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-archive TIME!

FYI These CPND topics are to be archived:

• S:CPND#Wiki Wednesday suggestion link should be on the left?
• S:CPND#Why doesn't the "CodeMirror" thing always work?
• S:CPND#Assets Page
• S:CPND#Community Blocks Page in my Userspace
• S:CPND#VisualEditor extension

And don't forget S:CPSYS!
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,044edit 01:51, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Wow, a lot of pages in the Not Done section can be archived!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 02:26, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

 Done!
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:11, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Minor Change to S:CONTRIB

 Done

S:CONTRIB says "Creating an email is encouraged if you haven't already. You will need it if you forget your password.", but the passwords are emailed now, I believe - so I believe it should say something like "Creating an email is encouraged if you haven't already. You will need it to receive your password." What does everyone think? Or am I missing something?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:33, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

It's required.
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,574)) 16:36, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, so maybe we should put "Creating an email is required" instead.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:38, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

I have no objections.  
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,574)) 16:41, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Shouldn't be encouraged since it's mandatory like Banana said.
TenType (talk | contribs) 23:08, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Right. I'll just change it and if anyone realizes that it shouldn't have been done, we could change it back.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:36, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

 Done - does it look okay?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:38, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Well  Done for spotting and fixing that! I'm completely happy with the changes.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  23:39, 12 August 2019 (UTC)