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 Not done (this will never be done completely, so don't archive!)

Threads that need "long time and hard work" will not be archived, but moved to S:CPND.

Here's some things that we need your help for.

Archive This!!!!

• S:CPND#Should "Griffpatch" become a wiki article? - rejected
• S:CPND#Block Lag on Chrome (revived) - ScratchBlocks updated

Other Topics

Topics that are not listed above.

About Scratch 3.0

• S:CPND#A Thorough Discussion on Thinking of the Past, Present, Future, and Organizing them All
• S:CPND#3.0 updating
• S:CPND#What should we call the Scratch 3.0 player?

About Wiki Management

Backend

• S:CPND#Embedding of Scratch Projects
• S:CPND#VisualEditor extension

Page Management

• S:CPND#Help:Contents Is missing some help pages
• S:CPND#Not Done doesn't get enough attention

Rules

• S:CPND#custom signatures
• S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use
• S:CPND#Account Request Notes
• S:CPND#Relax S:NOSP even more

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• S:CPND#We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"
• S:CPND#Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal?

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Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,986edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Done.

Updated the list as the author.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,986edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

Not Done

 Not done

I know someone already brought it up...
Anyways, Not Done is not getting any attention. I know that Kenny2scratch already added “Things To Do” on the left sidebar, and the TOC of Not Done, yet no one seems to notice it. I think that we should release an announcement to all existing editors about ND, and all incoming users about ND on their welcome page. In fact, I’m going to add that to my welcome right now.
Any thoughts?
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 23:53, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Nice idea, support!

asqwde talk | contribs 12:06, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks!
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 15:15, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Support, I think that is a great idea.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 20:32, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for support!
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 22:15, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

No worries.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 22:53, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Support better way to mark not done. Should the TOC on the CP mark out all the not done discussions in a different text color, or something like that? One idea

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 03:45, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Perhaps make all of the Not Done topics have bold titles? That should attract attention to them for those who browse the TOC.
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:47, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Maybe what we could do is put the Not Done Topics in Red in the TOC of the CP, the done topics Green in the TOC of the CP, and the in progress discussions the blue color it currently is.
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 12:47, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

I agree with KrIsMa, Kenny2scratch, and NYCDOT on having some way to show which topics are done and which are not done, but how would we make topics show as a different color in the table of contents?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:31, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

That...is a really good question. I have no idea. I really don't.
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 19:22, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

I noticed that Jedibrine's userpage's TOC has different colors and font. You can ask how they did it.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  20:18, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions

 Not done

It's as it says on the tin.

As part of this new revival of featured images (and leading on from #An Interval for Featured Images, I propose that we create a page similar in concept to S:WWS, where users leave new section saying which image they think deserve to be featured. This will clean up the CP (just slightly). At around the same time as Wiki Wednesday, the EWs/Bureaucrats review the suggestions and pick three images which will then to onto S:FI. If necessary, we could also edit the current Wiki Wednesday suggestion forum post to incorporate Featured Images too.

What do you think?
Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 15:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

This is a great idea! +1!
bigpuppy talk | contribs 17:23, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes!
Millie S (talk|961 contribs|directory) 18:12, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! Any bits that need improving?
Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 18:26, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

I think the featured images are too minor to have a dedicated projectspace page. I propose instead to have a miscellaneous "homepage tasks" page (or something like that) where you can suggest news items, featured images, and edits to other things that appear on the homepage. Does that sound better?
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  19:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

good idea
Millie S (talk|961 contribs|directory) 19:53, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Nice idea,  Support
asqwde talk | contribs 21:46, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ @Ken won't a homepage tasks page just get cluttered up? If they had to filter through edits and news items to find featured images, wouldn't it be harder for the admins? Also, having a dedicated project space is better because it's a) more obvious to Wiki Editors what the page is for, and seems less boring and gruelling than "homepage tasks", which sounds like just a big long list of stuff to do. And b) it would be easier for editors to suggest, because having a clearer Featured Image Suggestions would be more obvious to others what has already been suggested and what hasn't, et cetera. And c) having a dedicated page would make it so much easier to implement into the current WW forum post.
Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 08:49, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

We could have Scratch Wiki:Homepage Tasks and have there be a section for featured images, news things, and any other sections that may be needed. Then it wouldn't be as messy (if there were sections). Then we could make a shortcut called S:FEATUREDIMAGESUGGESTIONS (although that's a pretty long "shortcut") and have it redirect to Scratch Wiki:Homepage Tasks#Featured Image Suggestions. Or we could have Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions redirect to Scratch Wiki:Homepage Tasks#Featured Image Suggestions.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 15:32, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

If we're talking about shortcuts, how about S:FIS, since S:FI redirects to the featured images?
Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 08:44, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, that'd probably be good.
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:33, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Support to Bigpuppy's and Drunken's last two suggestions. :) Also are we going to have somthing smilar to this?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 23:45, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps even simply add the featured image suggestions to that forum topic's purpose? That saves effort :)
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  02:32, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Logging server faults

 Not done

Post any errors that you encountered here, and any relevant details.
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)

Time	Errors	Details/Comments
8 August 2018	400 Bad Request 503 Service Unavailable	I was editing User:Kenny2scratch/common.js, and when I clicked "save page" I hit a "400 Bad Request" error. I pressed the browser "back" button (thanks Chrome for caching form data), and clicked "save page" again, and I encountered "503 Service Unavailable". I went back again, resubmitted, and the edit went through.  kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:05, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
10:26 AM, 3 September 2018 (GMT)	Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties	I clicked on random page asqwde talk | contribs 09:30, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
5:27 PM, 3 September 2018 (HKT)	"Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties"	I was literally attempting to edit this section. When I clicked the "edit" link, it brought me to a page that said: Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties. Try waiting a few minutes and reloading. (Cannot access the database) You can try searching Google in the meantime. Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.  kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:34, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
10:07-11:20 PM, 8 September 2018 (HKT)	Major outage across all wikis	Multiple screenshots: [1][2][3][4]this is the most useful error[5][6][7][8][9][10] Basically the database failed to connect for a while, causing all sorts of obscure errors. Specifically, at times the required "mysql.sock" file was missing. Looking at server configuration, the MySQL server had to restart itself 11 times during this time period.  kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
10:44 AM, 2 October 2018 (GMT)	508 Resource Limit Reached	Edit a user's talk page asqwde talk | contribs 09:46, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
4:40 AM, 2 January 2019 (CST)	508 Resource Limit Reached	Trying to create a redirect page.  12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
4:58 PM, 8:02 PM, 10:22 PM, 10:25 PM @ 3 January 2019 (HKT); 12:46 AM @ 4 January 2019 (HKT)	508 Resource Limit Reached 503 Service Unavailable File upload fail	Frequent outages across all wikis. Most likely caused by traffic spike from 3.0.  kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
9:12 AM, 4 January 2019 (CST) 9:17 AM, 4 January 2019 (EST)	"Service Unavailable Error [...] 503 Service Unavailable Error" "508 Resource Limit Reached"	Trying to enter my talk, kept refreshing until worked, came to CP to log fault. Errors repeated until worked.  12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
15:02:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)	[XFxIg6aMNCF3IwsqOWhSIAAAAAU] 2019-02-07 15:02:46: Fatal exception of type DBQueryError	I was tring to go to the Community Portal and the website was taking a while to load and then I got the error. It went away after I refreshed the page. Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
9:02 AM, 7 February 2019 (CST)	508 Resource Limit Reached	Trying to go to How to Make a Typewriter Effect.  12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Could we have a dedicated page to that?
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,296)) 17:41, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Nah, just here is fine.
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:46, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:43, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

If it comes to the point of like many bugs, maybe we can make a page so that it is easier to navigate with. (archives)
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:04, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Not too many right now.
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:18, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

 Never done! Server faults will always come.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:15, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Can we just keep things to UTC for the sake of simplicity?
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,296)) 16:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ It's hard to convert times off the top of one's head - if you really want to know the time in your own timezone, convert it yourself, don't ask the logger to do extra work.
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:33, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Community Blocks Page in my Userspace

 Not done

Hey everyone! Following the discussion ^^ up there, I need some help on my community blocks page - Community Blocks (forum). If anyone could help I'd be really grateful! Thanks!
Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 505 edits) 15:51, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

I'd say that although it's small, it's big enough to be moved to the mainspace
bigpuppy talk | contribs 21:46, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

(edited OP link) I've moved it to mainspace now, so contribute to it there :)
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:44, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Added Not Done to topic.
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:45, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

New page for mall simulators

 Not done

Should we make a new page for mall simulators? Mall simulators are sort of big with the biggest mall simulator (Palace of Points) having more than 1400 members. Should we create a page for it?
Sti_scratch (talk | contribs) 04:55, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Maybe not as a whole page, but as a section in Simulation Projects?
bigpuppy talk | contribs 16:11, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

Mall simulators, let me explain, are studios where people can register and make projects and add them to the studio. These projects are shops, where people (that are registered in a mall simulator the shop is added in) can buy from. Mall simulators invent their own currency, not tradeable for real money, that is used within the mall simulator itself. So, I don't really think it would fit there since it's technically not a project.
Sti_scratch (talk | contribs) 08:54, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

That's a new kind of shop. Actually, there is no article to write about it, I think.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,986edit 12:56, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, it means that we have to create two pages. for the shops and the sim itself.
Sti_scratch (talk | contribs) 03:34, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Couldn't shops in the mall simulators be a sub-section?
Purple_Ember (talk | contribs) 04:27, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

@Purple_Ember Yeah, that works too.
Sti_scratch (talk | contribs) 06:00, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Assets Page

 Not done

Hi everyone! On the Community Portal on the forums, there has been a request for a page about assets on the wiki. I just want to get your opinion on whether it'd be worthwhile writing an article on it?
Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 505 edits) 20:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Pretty good idea. :ok_hand:
banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (2,296)) 08:20, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

I asked them, on the topic, for more clarification on the idea before we start making it.
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:11, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Split the Paint Article

 Needs doing

I was browsing the wiki and noticed that the Paint editor article (here) is really long and could possibly be split up into three different articles: History of the paint editor, 2.0 Bitmap Paint editor, and 2.0 Vector Paint Editor.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

It is kinda long, but so is the CP, and do we split this? I realize it's not exactly the same thing, but it's not long enough to truly need splitting.
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  07:03, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

in Japanese wiki, we did split it. At that time, "Types of Graphics", "Bitmap Editor", "Vector Editor", "Bitmap and Vector Comparison", "Paint Editor Conversion", "Interaction With Other Programs", "Example Uses", and "Alternatives" section is kept. Others are moved to version subpages, such as Paint Editor (2.0). Guess what will happen next January here, without the change.

By the way, block workaround page is enough big to split, too, I think. It will be good for performance issues.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,986edit 08:24, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Currently, Bitmap Editor redirects to Paint Editor#Bitmap Editor. The bitmap editor is a large part of Scratch, so I think it needs its own article.
CrazyBoy826 Talk | Contribs | Scratch account 01:29, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

So Vector Editor too?
Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,986edit 03:25, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

I merged the previous 'The "Bitmap Editor" Page' topic with this one that I pulled from the archives, as I realize that the original one shouldn't have been archived. If the replies by CrazyBoy826 onwards seem out of context, that's why.

Next question: "Paint Editor" will have to redirect to either Bitmap or Vector Editor (not a disambig page, because there's only two). Which one?
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  05:19, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

There are some sections that cannot be on the two: Types of Graphics, Bitmap and Vector Comparison, Costume Pane, Basic Options, Interaction With Other Programs, Example Uses, History, and Alternatives. Keep them on Paint Editor.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,986edit 10:40, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Articles to update for 3.0

 Won't be done for a long time

Hello everyone, it's already January 2nd for me, so I figure I might as well get the preparations started.

Observations/Edit Guidance

Pages outdated upon 3.0 release are incredibly numerous. In most cases, one or more of the following edits can or should happen:

• Parts that talk about 3.0 features in future tense (e.g. "there will be a new paint editor") should be changed to use present tense (e.g. "there is a new paint editor") or past tense (e.g. "a new paint editor was introduced")
• Parts that talk about 3.0 changes in future tense (e.g. "the editor will be moved to the right side") should be changed to use past tense (e.g. "the editor was moved to the right side")
• Parts that mention dates in any tense should have their tense updated (e.g. "the official release will be January 2019" -> "the official release was January 2019")
• Parts that talk about 2.0 features in any tense (e.g. "the paint editor has these features") should be changed to use past tense (e.g. "the paint editor had these features")
• Parts that talk about 2.0 changes in any tense (e.g. "the editor was moved to the left") should all be changed to past tense if they haven't already.
• Take this opportunity to update things that weren't changed from 1.4 days as well.

Progress

Here is a list of articles that need to be updated (on their real versions in mainspace) upon the release of 3.0. You can probably already start updating them now. Articles marked with an asterisk (*) have updates available at Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/the article title, but:

Warning:

do not copy articles directly from their 3.0 versions!

Though in most cases the information will be correctly updated, make sure to use your own judgement as to its accuracy.

Note:

Some of the articles listed below need to be created.

Feel free to update this list yourself. Add any articles that you discover that need updates; remove articles that have been updated.

• How to Embed a Project
• Blocks
• Change () Effect by () (sound block)
• Development of Scratch 3.0
• Project
• File:Name bar.png
• File:Offline Editor Share Icon.png

Remember to take this opportunity to clean up articles as well as update them!

Fix typography or other writing issues as you come across them

We don't want to have to make a second sweep to clean up all the weird grammar from tense changes. Remember to fix the grammar and spelling of the articles as a whole while you update them.

Ask for help when you need it

If a page or redirect needs to be deleted or you need some other admin action, leave a message at Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests. If you don't specifically need admin actions, you can ask anyone you think would know the answer to your question.

Here's to a good 3.0 release!

 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  05:40, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Oh I thought a bot would do it :P also are we saving old articles, for example Block Plugin(2.0)?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I thought we were moving 2.0 to a different place and 3.0 to where 2.0 used to be.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  16:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Removed some articles from the list :)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:31, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

Should Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Front Page (2.0) be updated? It's so similar to Front Page, that it seems redundant to create a new page.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:46, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I noticed that many of the things needed to be changed were the same in 2.0 and 3.0. What should we do?
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  18:14, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Please don't externally link to Wiki pages! And please don't use underscores in links.

I'm pretty sure it's the pictures that need updating. Would you mind adding all the files on that page that need updating to the #Progress list?
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:14, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

Nothing has changed between 2.0 to 3.0 in Front Page, Messages, Discuss, Profiles. (Maybe more but these are all I've been to). The Project page and project editor are the only ones that have.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)

The front page has changed, they've just been using the 3.0 skin for a while. Notice how the top bar is bright blue there and on project pages but a darker blue in discuss and the profiles as well as studios. Messages have also been at the 3.0 skin for a while. My stuff (and everything in it, like trash) has not been updated either.
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 02:36, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Wiki Wednesday suggestion link should be on the left?

^
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  17:32, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Elaborate?
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:07, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Just like you include 'things to do' in For Editors. Include Wiki Wednesday suggestion link there too.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  01:34, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

3.0 updating question

 Not done

Should we rename the page Getting Started with Scratch to Getting Started with Scratch 2.0 and create a new page called Getting Started with Scratch 3.0? Because some people (Mainly teachers who's curriculum is based around S2) will still use the offline 2.0 editor.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

A copy of the page before I began updating it can be found here.
Drunken Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 22:44, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Why doesn't the "CodeMirror" thing always work?

 Not done Sometimes, I'll start editing, and notice that the little rainbow wheel shows up, and when it does, the code and wiki markup show in different colors. If you hover over it, it says "Disable CodeMirror (Syntax highlight)". If you click it, everything is shown as plain text and the wheel turns black, and it says "Enable" instead of "Disable". I know what it does and what it's for, but sometimes it doesn't even show up. It's weird and inconsistent, since I was testing it out and it isn't showing up now but it is in a different Community Portal discussion.
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  15:43, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, it happens all the time. I think it had something to do with the URL. I didn't really get it either.

I had also posted this thing before too but it moved into the archives.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:04, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

I looked for it as a duplicate but didn't find anything. I know it happens a lot, but I want to know why.
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  21:47, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

I don't know for sure either - I speculated before, I believe, that it had something to do with how CodeMirror decides when to show itself, and that the method it used involved the URL address. A quick Google search doesn't turn up anything useful... I suppose we'll just have to treat it as a known bug for now.
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:03, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess. It's annoying because the siggy bot gets confused if it doesn't show, and it asks me to confirm even if I've already put a signature. Then I have to type "CONFIRM" twice.
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  22:06, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

That shouldn't be......
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  23:26, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

It doesn't always ask to confirm twice, but if CodeMirror isn't on it doesn't detect my signature.
 EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages  00:58, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

scratchblocks version parameter

 Done
I was thinking we should have a version parameter for scratchblocks so that we could see what they looked like in previous versions of Scratch. This would be useful for articles that cover previous versions of Scratch.
Example: <scratchblocks version="2.0"></scratchblocks>
1a3c5e7g9i^{(Talk|Contributions)} 20:40, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

I definitely support! When we were moving to 3.0 I originally thought that we would keep the old sb extension and just change the tag to "scratchblocks2" (or something like that), and make a new one for 3.0 and it would have a "scratchblocks" tag.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:52, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

I definitely agree! Having this would be better for the old 2.0 pages. +1
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  21:59, 18 March 2019 (UTC)

Support! I do think we should also be able to view what the old blocks look like, because it might be useful in some situations (who knows?).
NilsTheBest (talk | contribs) 02:22, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Be careful: Long comment. Nutshell: too hard to implement

This is apple502j, the one who made ScratchBlocks4 extension. I know what you need, and it's nice. I'd wanted to make it possible to install both (2.0 version and 3.0 version) version to MediaWiki, but it was too hard to do so.

Old scratchblocks (Old for short) and new scratchblocks (New for short) uses the same global(window.) variable name. If you install Old first and New second, Old's JS variable is gone, and vise versa. I tried to solve the problem by replacing the name of New JS with a simple Python script, but it didn't work well. Without the script, we had to manually change it, which is also too hard. To make ScratchBlocks4 available earlier, I had to cut the feature.

Old and New also use the same identifier inside MediaWiki. This was a bit easier than that JS one.

While it's possible to beg tjvr, it would still need time. For this reason, I think it's hard to implement.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,986edit 06:54, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

I support! Now I know it's hard to implement, but it becomes easier if we accept a tradeoff: each article can only have one scratchblocks version. That way there aren't any name conflicts and it'll still work fine. I'll look into it later.
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  06:08, 30 March 2019 (UTC)

I was thinking that each version of scratchblocks should be stored in a different global variable (new idea made from Apple502j's explanation), but your idea sounds more practical!
1a3c5e7g9i^{(Talk|Contributions)} 02:05, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

Scratchblocks already allows you to render either in Scratch 2 or Scratch 3 style, so possibly you could make that feature available? https://github.com/scratchblocks/scratchblocks/releases (That page also explains how to scale scratchblocks to 67.5%, I suppose you mean to fix that soon?)
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 08:14, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

We already scale scratchblocks to that size, but with a different method, because the method on that page doesn't take into account that the space taken up remains unchanged (it was designed for the scratchblocks.github.io page).

You have a point! We don't need to include different versions of scratchblocks to render different versions of Scratch! I'll get to it right away.
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:28, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ TESTING move (10) stepsmove (10) steps
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  14:49, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Oh! Sorry, it's just on my end (SeaMonkey 2.49.4) that they appear huge. It says TypeError: item.viewBox.baseVal is null.
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs) 00:48, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Ayy, it worked!!!  Done
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  14:54, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Compliment Tuesday! March 19^th, 2019

Welcome to the 18^th Compliment Tuesday! March 19^th, 2019.

What is Compliment Tuesday?

Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!

How to Compliment

We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Compliment Tuesday

Compliments

The Compliments are *drum roll please*

User	Compliments
NilsTheBest (talk | contribs)	Thanks for interwiki-linking a whole bunch of pages! Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:19, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Supermonkeycat157 (talk | contribs)	Thanks for being so active lately!  kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:13, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Dominic305 (talk | contribs)	Thank you for your image compressing work on the files my bot doesn't touch yet! It definitely helps the Wiki load faster :)  kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:12, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
12944qwerty (talk | contribs)	Thank you for being so active and helpful in the community! Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 19:58, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

“

There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

”

The next CT is March 26^th. See you then!

Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:06, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

 Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:06, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

I created a new Thread about #Changes to Compliment Tuesday? like Ken suggested.
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  15:03, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Help needed in the international Scratch Wiki

 Done Who of you can help here?

• tw:User talk:Mtwoll#DACH and French Scratch Wiki main page style,bot problems,some "Help:"pages are missing and Turkish Scratch Wiki infrastructure

Thank you very much in advance!
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  05:25, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I would love to help but I'm not an international wiki coach :P
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:20, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Every Scratch Wiki author can start to coach at the international Scratch Wiki, just get you an account here: tw:Special:RequestAccount

• Is it really true that nobody of you found time to help our fellow Turkish Scratcher until now? :-(

 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:01, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Oops...I solved problems but I forgot to say that.Thanks for all helps to all Wiki admins,User:MartinWollenweber and all users in the Wikis.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 12:29, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you very much!!! I am realy happy that my guess above, that nobody helped was wrong.
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  12:37, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

@MartinWollenweber I applied! Fingers crossed! :)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:56, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

@Jakel181 Great! see tw:User talk:Jakel181
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:46, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 13:35, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

Archive Time!

^^^ :D 08:47, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,986edit

• S:CPND#Should "Griffpatch" become a wiki article?

Not sure if done?

• S:CPND#Relax S:NOSP even more
• S:CPND#What should we call the Scratch 3.0 player?
• S:CPND#We have to delete Fair Use

yay!
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:20, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Add admin request to the archive.

Should we add (completed) admin requests to the archive? It seems like the Done Requests are starting to pile up.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:38, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Ach, I knew there was something I forgot... I've archived all the admin requests now.  Done
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:52, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Is this edit good?

I've finally done my first true edit on the site! Its the Creating a Multiplayer Game article. It said that it needed some of thelanguage used to be changed. I've mostly changed the text in the scripts. Does anyone aprove of the edit? I mean, it's good for a first!
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 23:05, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, nice to know you're engaged in this wiki!

I noticed that you made a lot of edits for this, which is fine, but it takes more work for admins to patrol them. To avoid this in the future, you can use the show preview button at the bottom.

I also noticed how you formatted you links. I'm glad that you used the internal link format, but you didn't have to rename it. |NAME]] (that part). As long as you inputted the link where you want to go, and its not named to something else. (for example, cheatsheet, look inside). You also included a '/'. This will bring the link to the subpage of the current page. It will most likely bring you to a non-existent page. Look inside if you don't know how to fix the link for the answer.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  00:23, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to keep my edits to one whole batch. Thanks for telling me! :)
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 09:59, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, in your posts, you included posts without indents. We use indents to show who is replying to who. Otherwise it will look broken, and not clean.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  13:04, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Yeah - I'm just getting used to how the wiki works. Thanks, anyway!
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 18:06, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Merging page

I'm planning to merge Slideshows to How to Create a Slideshow. If this gets accepted, I'll merge them, and then I'll say here to delete the page merged.
Yaov_1991 (talk | contribs) 21:36, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

Hi, when merging pages, we would just put a redirect instead of deleting.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  01:20, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Before the pages are merged, we need to confirm that they should be merged. There isn't a topic on the page's talk page, so I suggest you open one to discuss whether they should be merged there.
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:10, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Moving domain of special-case wikis

 Waiting for admins've decisions Hello everyone,

I’ll get right to the point. Currently, there are three "special case" Wikis, which have domains according to scratch-*.info instead of *.scratch-wiki.info. These cause several problems:

• Links to them in Scratch comments aren’t clickable
• People keep asking why those domains are special
• Code linking to those wikis has to be duplicated

On the GitHub issue I linked above, LiFay suggested moving the special cases to normal domains, and having the “special case” domains redirect to the normal ones. I think this is a good idea, but we need more discussion on it first. Moving it:

• Solves all the problems above
• Makes things consistent

However, it also:

• Needs redirecting

What are your thoughts? Should we move, or no? What else is there to consider?
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  06:02, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

The special-domains of those wikis only have historically reasons and so I vote for moving them to the domains with the same structure as all others while additional making them fully accessible under their historic domains.
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  15:07, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

I agree to MartinWollenweber but technically,it's very hard(because that means clon the Wikis) and clon the Wikis mean more memory and more technical problems.Therefore,this isn't a good idea but special cases are historical signature of the Wikis,so I suggest if a Wiki has a special domain,we can move all files to special domain and we can close standart domains for that wiki or we can remove all special domain.This is a hard problem.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 08:42, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Changes to Compliment Tuesday?

I'm a big fan of motivating things like "Compliment Tuesday" but couldn't it be more effective, if we decrease the times per year say down to 4 or 2? It's more motivating honored and to be honored rarely by manny than often by just a few...
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  06:26, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm on board with that, currently we do Compliment Tuesday, every Tuesday, when there is four or more compliments. Though doing it every 6 months seems too far apart, but if we do it once a month, say the first Tuesday of the month, it's often enough that I don't forget, ;) but not too often that it is not that effective. What do you think?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 11:33, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I think you should start a new thread regarding this. ;)
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I created this new Thread about #Changes to Compliment Tuesday? like Ken suggested.
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  15:04, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

The bot tweaker has no Im A bot template, It may make confusion.

 Done If you look o the page https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&group=bot You see that tweaker is a bot. If you look at User:Tweaker, you don't see the template.
Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs) 16:14, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

That template was never used on that bot's page (Plus, the bot was only used to replace WikiMonitor temporarily) (and as a reminder Ideapad, please use proper spelling and grammar on the wiki, this is a "professional" wiki).
Jammum (talk | contribs) 05:29, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Tweaker was always meant to be temporary, and it never got proper bot rights nor was it ever really a bot. The link to Special:Log on its userpage was meant to show recent things it might have done. It doesn't really deserve the "I'm a bot" template.

@Jammum, your point is clear but harshly made. @Ideapad-320: Thanks for pointing it out, and I hope my reply clarifies things. Do remember that we're a professional(-ish) encyclopedia, and proper spelling and grammar in a talk page help get your meaning across better. :) But if that's too much, as long as you use proper typography in mainspace articles then that's fine (though we may misunderstand you at times).
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  18:03, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Just a question...

Hello all, I was just wondering if anything big has happened on the wiki, or if there is something I should know about because I have sadly not been on the wiki for a long time. Kenny, if this is not allowed go ahead and delete it.
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:51, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

The policy Scratch Wiki:Kenny is not here is made.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 1,986edit 09:22, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Please don't call me Kenny! Also, you don't need to specifically call me out - any admin will do the same :)

Nothing big has happened that I can remember, but we have the upcoming possibility of the domain change for the German, Indonesian, and Russian wikis. (Anybody reading this: we need opinions on that!)
 kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  11:26, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Got It!
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 11:29, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

New About Page

Hello all, I was thinking recently that the About page should be change to be more standardized. Please check my sandbox to see what I mean. Let me see what you guys think!
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 21:08, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

It's good but I think real Scratch Wiki:About page is better than your About page.However,I saw your categorization system and I think this is a good idea!We should apply this system in the About page.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 08:26, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

When I was talking about the about page, I meant only the Int'l section. Sorry for any confusion! But, thanks for the positive feedback.
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 12:16, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Can we get an admin to check this?
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 23:36, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

It's not a bad idea, but I am not sure about leaving so much whitespace.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:50, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

Not Done-Moving

Should I take all the not done topics at the top of the page, "ctrl-x" 'em and paste them in not done?
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 22:29, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

No, the not done topics will be move by their authors when the topic doesn't end/finish/solve after a really long time.
 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  01:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Well then, I will move my ND post when I get hold of a computer, not a mobile phone.
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 02:20, 24 April 2019 (UTC)