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::: Oh I see. Anyway, I have a question; should I add an interwikis to the Indo wiki? <scratchsig>Really_A</scratchsig> 14:44, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 
::: Oh I see. Anyway, I have a question; should I add an interwikis to the Indo wiki? <scratchsig>Really_A</scratchsig> 14:44, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:::::[[:id:]]  already has Interwiki, as you can see in multiple articles that have a language-link in the language-Box to other Scratch-Wikis (like the Homepage). See [[Scratch_Wiki:Interwiki]] for explanation of Interwiki. But you can look for possibly missing Interwiki-Links. <scratchsig>MartinWollenweber</scratchsig> 16:46, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
 
:::::[[:id:]]  already has Interwiki, as you can see in multiple articles that have a language-link in the language-Box to other Scratch-Wikis (like the Homepage). See [[Scratch_Wiki:Interwiki]] for explanation of Interwiki. But you can look for possibly missing Interwiki-Links. <scratchsig>MartinWollenweber</scratchsig> 16:46, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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:::::: Well, I see. But the indo's CP still doesn't has any interwiki.
  
 
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I made a 1,000 article tracker!

User:PrincessPandaLover/On the way to 1,000 Isn't that amazing?
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 17:33, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Great! I put it on my user page!
CrazyNimbus (talk | contribs) 19:09, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
Oh, that's so awesome! Hopefully though it doesn't encourage Wiki contributors to start making spammy & useless articles just to get there xP Really fun and motivating though ^-^
Logotcodina.png Tcodina™ user | talk | contribs | edits
Great!
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 02:46, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
I added it to my pages too! :D Quick question: It looks a bit off scale. Is that a typo, or as close as it can be, etc.?
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 10:24, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Woah, great job!
Golden-scratch (talk | contribs) 13:06, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Emojis on the Wiki

The emojis on the wiki are currently only the smiley faces on the discussion forums. I think it'd be fun to have Pizza emoji.png, Sushi emoji.png, Eggplant emoji.png, etc. Is there anything wrong with that? I'd love to work on the templates for them, I just want to make sure it's okay. :)
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 00:54, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, good idea! I wonder what the uses are though, because I can't think of any uses for the pizza,sushi and eggplant emotions on wiki talkpages ;)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:01, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't know what the uses are either (for the Wiki or Scratch). It's still fun and makes a good laugh! :)
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 02:10, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
I agree with KrIsMa
Really_A (talk | contribs) 09:59, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
@Really_A So does that mean you agree or you don't see the purpose?
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 18:03, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
If the Scratch website has them, I guess it would be fun for us to have them. Maybe we could add them to template Template:smiley ?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 02:48, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
Do the forums have them?
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 03:45, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
@KrIsMa No, the forums don't have them but you can comment them on profiles, studios, projects, etc.
@ErnieParke Adding them to Template:S sounds good. Would you be willing to help me work on that? I tried taking a look at them and couldn't make any sense out of makeing templates.
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 05:41, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── consistency-wise, we shouldn't have them if the forums don't, but it seems like a fun thing to have! However, i think we do need to make them into separate templates, and not put them in one template (consistency).
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:56, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

@KrIsMa Why "shouldn't we have them if the forums don't"? What do you mean by separate templates?
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 00:11, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
The emotions (:), :(, ...) are all from the forums, so if i was thinking that consistency-wise we shouldn't support it if the forums don't have them
oh, like separate the emotions by template (like {{Smile}}, {{Mad}})
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:49, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
@KrIsMa Shouldn't we support it if Scratch has it? Not necessarily just the Scratch forums. Why couldn't we add {{S|eggplant}} to be Eggplant emoji.png?
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 03:19, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I have nothing against this proposition but if we want to be consistent I wouldn't. but, I am also saying that you have to create individual templates for the emotions and then add it to {{S}}.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 03:50, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
You can begin the template making process now!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:21, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I tried working on the templates, but I can't seem to figure out how to actually make the template, let alone add it to {{S}}. Would anyone mind helping me?
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 01:04, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yeah, try separating all the images into a template (like Template:Smile) first!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:00, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Okay. I'll get working on that!
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 00:11, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I never noticed the comment. Sure! By the way, if you ever want me to teach you how to work with templates, I can. They're actually very easy.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 19:13, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

That would be awesome! I tried messing with them, but I'm having a bit of trouble. Would you mind helping?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 17:01, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
I can help. Maybe not right now, but tomorrow sounds good.
On a side note... Here's a present! Pizza emoji.png
Also, now that the smiley template supports images other then smilies, maybe we should rename it Template:Emoji & Template:E ?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 22:34, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks so much! Did you do them all? Changing the name sounds good. We should probably leave a redirect.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 22:47, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Delicious! Thanks! I think it would be good to move it.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 23:19, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
I just saw that you didn't do all of the emojis. Is there a tutorial somewhere that I can read on making a template like these?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 23:41, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Actually, now that you mention it, there is a tutorial. I completely forgot about it: link
If you have more questions about templates after reading that, feel free to ask!
On a side note, can you put all of the new emoji images here? That would be helpful. :)
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:08, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
I've read that tutorial before, I just had trouble with how to document the templates and making the different faces one template.
Here are the images: File:Meow.png, File:Gobmoticon.PNG, File:Taco emoji.png, File:Eggplant emoji.png, File:Sushi emoji.png, File:Apple emoji.png, File:Broccoli emoji.png, and File:Pizza emoji.png. I can't find a picture of the waffle emoji (so it probably needs uploaded).
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 00:17, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Thank you! I just added: Meow.png Gobo emoji.png Waffle Emoji.png
I'll try and get the rest tomorrow.
Also, documentation isn't really hard. Try looking at Template:Smiley and Template:Smiley/doc to see how they work. Maybe make a template in your user space and try adding documentation to it.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 02:09, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

I'll do that. Thanks for the help! Maybe I'll work on some tonight. Meow.png
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 02:12, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
I just created Template:Eggplant, but I am having trouble adding it to Template:S. Could you help?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 02:22, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
I just created sushi, broccoli, and apple. Does anyone know why Template:Taco was deleted?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 20:24, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Added, although I don't remember seeing Template:Taco being created in the first place?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 20:30, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
There's a deletion warning from March. "19:21, March 31, 2015 KrIsMa (Talk | contribs) deleted page Template:Taco (Not useful: templates must have usage in main articles. it should also make editing the wiki easier for a lot of people.)"
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 20:32, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Because the template was made before the 2015 april fools day, the page could not have been the taco emoji, and hence the template probably wasn't useful. In this case, it would be okay to ignore the deletion warning.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 20:37, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
All right.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 20:43, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis ?

At the DACH-Scratch-Wiki we are interested in a Mobile Device Skin & Responsible Design for Scratch-Wikis, but until now we did not find somebody who could integrate it. If you have a look at Scratch-Wikis on a mobile device, you'll see that's really difficult to read it and nearly impossible to edit. Also Search-Engines rank down Websites that don't use Responsible Design. It should not be to difficult to integrate Responsive Design, because you could take the Wikipedia Skin as a template Here is a Manual that could help:

Who of you is interested and who is able to manage it?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 08:37, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

I would love to help out, but that kind of stuff isn't my area sadly :(.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 10:42, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
I am interested in helping out. I have experience coding (Html, CSS, Java, Python, some JS), and depending on my schedule, I think I can help out. I should be able to tell for sure if I can help or not by or on Saturday.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 12:52, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
@ErnieParke: Great! It also would be good, to have an Admin of the English Scratch-Wiki helping with this...
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 09:08, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
This should be a collaborative effort :) I want to help out but I already scheduled a lot of other things, so I can't do it all myself. @ErnieParke: If you are going to work on it, can you put the code on GitHub so that I can maybe I can do tweaks to it and make a pull request? And I am sure there are also other interested Scratchers! @MartinWollenweber: Great idea!
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 12:03, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
sure, I'll put any work on github.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 10:41, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Update: I don't think I have enough time or the expertise to make a mobile design. Sorry. Maybe jvvg could help here?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:42, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Hope somone of the admins is able to help. I think this will get important, as the Scratch-Team is also working an a mobile-device-version of Scratch (preview was shown at de:Scratch2015AMS including iOS-device :-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 21:19, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Checking if a String Contains a String Article

Shouldn't the Checking if a String Contains a String article be titled "How to Check if a String Contains a String"? Then it would be a How To page, like the other tutorials.
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 20:43, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

actually, it is optional to add the "How to" to tutorial pages :)
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 21:14, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Could it be put in the How to category?
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 21:16, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm actually not sure what the difference between Category:How To and Category:Tutorials is. I need to check!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 21:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I think it could go under Category:String_Tutorials.
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 21:25, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure i understand properly but it already is?
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:22, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Oh, you're right. It is already in that category. My bad! Should a how to template be added?
Purplebook163 (talk | contribs) 01:05, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Wiki Suggestion

I think that there should be a feature implemented on each article where you can post questions. Sort of like a comment board. For an example, if your question wasn't quite answered in the article and you don't have a wiki account, theres no way to get your answer unless you ask someone else on the site. It would also be good if a non-wiki contributor had a suggestion for an article, etc.

What do you think?
 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs  20:14, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

That's an interesting idea. I can see how it could be helpful!
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 23:55, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
I've been thinking about something similar as well. I support this.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 00:01, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Sounds cool!
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 00:14, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
The one downside is that this would require a programming new extension (though I'm sure something exists that we could work off of). If anyone can find/wants to create this extension, by all means please do.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
This could be very helpful I think, but it would need to be different from normal editing. It should be more like a comment on the website, otherwise non-wikians could get confused.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:53, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes, similar to likewise Wikia comments.
LeftoftheHeader.gif ♠BF10 talkcontributions11:35, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
UH. Please don't talk about Wikia :P. Sorry I had to say that
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:53, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

New rules on custom sigs

Lately I've been seeing a lot of custom sigs that have been getting increasingly flashy, difficult to read, etc. In order to prevent them from getting too out of hand, some new rules have been added:

  • No bright, flashy, or distracting colors
  • No background colors, images, or borders
  • No non-Wiki stuff (this means you can't have a link to your latest project, your own website, etc., but you can still link to stuff like your Scratch profile)

Remember that the purpose of your signature is to let users identify you quickly. They are also supposed to make discussions easier to read, not harder. When I used the word "discussion" there, I meant the actual content posted by the users, not just the identifiers for each user. They are not a place to advertise or show off your creativity with HTML. You have your userpage for that.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:54, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

This means that if you have a signature that violates these rules, please update it as soon as possible. If you can't think of any way to make it comply, we still have the <scratchsig> available.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:56, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Awesome rules- I really think that custom sigs designs are getting out of hand. These new rules seems to guarantee me less distractions on the CP and on the other talk pages ^-^
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 07:07, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
*Phew. Thanks for that - some of those sigs were really annoying me.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 11:15, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
I loved my original signature but however changed it. Look below. ⬇️
PPL Icon.gif ♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 13:54, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
And that's why my was sig is too long...
LeftoftheHeader.gif ♠BF10 talkcontributions23:23, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Will sigs like mine be fine?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 00:04, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, you should be fine.
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 00:08, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Looks fine to me
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 00:13, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

New Curator!

The current curator is now getbent. Whenever the front page can be updated :).
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 11:18, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Help fix Template:Forum Archive

As not all of you know, Forum Archive is a year-old template used for easy and easily-changeable linking to an archived version of the pre-2.0 Scratch Forums. Unfortunately, there's an annoying glitch involving the # character in the URL, and it hasn't been solved for over a year.

Let's use a hypothetical link {{Forum Archive|123|page=4|p=567}} as an example.

As the template stands, the link parses as http://scratchforums.blob8108.net/forums/viewtopic.php?id=123&p=4<nowiki>#</nowiki>p567. This unfortunately makes it so the # part is not counted as part of the URL.

Before the nowiki tags were added around the # character, transcluding the template will add a newline before the #, causing it to become an ordered list, which is even worse.

Basically, what I have in mind is to fix the older case, where the nowiki tags are not added. What we need to do is to stop this from happening:

http://scratchforums.blob8108.net/forums/viewtopic.php?id=123&p=4
#p567

...and have this happen instead:

http://scratchforums.blob8108.net/forums/viewtopic.php?id=123&p=4#p567

So why is the newline added? And how can we stop it from being added whilst also keeping the URL in full?

Your input is needed!
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 14:44, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

I would help, but I don't know anything about this.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 17:03, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
I just did some experimenting. It seems if when a template is added to a page, instead of writing {{Template:Forum Archive|123|4|123}}, if we write {{Template:Forum Archive|123|4|#123}} (notice the #) everything works just fine, assuming we rewrite the template as this.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 22:29, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately, rewriting the template would mean having to run another bot program to fix all the links.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:37, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Is there an easy way to do that?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 22:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Make a page on http://scratch.mit.edu/about/

That is now new to the Header and it should need a page as About Scratch in here is just a redirect to a forum section. We should make a page on this.

Also, the URL again is [1]
LeftoftheHeader.gif ♠BF10 talkcontributions11:53, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Bump.
LeftoftheHeader.gif ♠BF10 talkcontributions 22:04, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure the page needs a article.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 22:09, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Because "About" is in the header, it seems significant enough to deserve a page. Then again, "Help" doesn't have a page.
I still lean towards support due to notability.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:02, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
I'll get started on an article for the "Help" page.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 23:31, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Never mind. I'll work on an "About" page article. What should the article be titled?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 23:34, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Name it anything and I will try to rename it to something better if possible.
LeftoftheHeader.gif ♠BF10 talkcontributions 00:14, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Idea: JavaScript equivalent section for articles about blocks

It would be nice to have a section that states the equivalent in JavaScript, and only if possible (it is either bad code or impossible for the Forever block, for example). Some reasons:

  • It would help to "illustrate" the article better, and may help some in understanding the block
  • It would help people who already tried JavaScript first, or other programming languages who uses similar syntaxes
  • It would help people who are moving from Scratch to JavaScript or languages similar to JavaScript (in either concept or syntax)
  • It would really help for ScratchX extension developers or just any people who are interested in ScratchX extensions — the extensions are programmed in JavaScript!
  • Extends articles, adds information
  • Some sort "workaround", but in JavaScript
  • It would really give the bored Scratch Wiki contributors something to work on

It would probably look like this (example article — Length of () (block):

This block can be replicated in JavaScript using the following code: (string.length);

Opinions? :)

EDIT: Or if JavaScript code is not an option, how about some code on recreating the block on a ScratchX extension? The code needed, what needs to be modified, etc. It would be great for learning developers.
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 10:41, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

That sounds awesome!
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 17:02, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Small Update

I just wanted to get it out that:

  • There is now a Hungarian Scratch Wiki! I hope it grows a lot. :)
  • There will soon be a new Dutch Scratch Wiki! (Note: Dutch =/= DACH)
  • Scb1 and the Wiki admins are looking into supporting the ogg file format.
  • The CP is archived!


ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 18:59, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

YES!
My ideas are accepted!
PPL Icon.gif ♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 20:33, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Yay!
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:11, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

External Programs/Links Template

The 1.4 forum archive is on a blob8108.net domain. As far as I can tell, blob8108 is not associated with Scratch or Wikipedia in any way.

Since the External Programs template says, "This page has links to outside of the Scratch website or Wikipedia. Remember to stay safe when using the internet as we can't guarantee the safety of other sites." Shouldn't all pages that link to the archived forums be marked with this template?

I feel that that would be a lot of templates. Changing the template to say, "This page has links to outside of the Scratch website, Wikipedia, or blob8108. Remember to stay safe when using the internet as we can't guarantee the safety of other sites," probably isn't a good idea as blob8108 isn't associated with Scratch or the Wiki. Does anyone have a solution for this?

Also, shouldn't the template be changed to "...outside of the Scratch website and/or Wikipedia..."?

Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 00:58, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

You know, good point. I never though of that, but it makes sense. I don't really agree, because the blob8108 archives are like the official archives that everyone uses. Besides, is it associated? Maybe we could just change the template anyway.
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 01:15, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm a little confused by what you mean. Do you think we should add blob8108 to the template, or do you think it doesn't matter?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 01:20, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
I think it should be OK, since the Blob8108 domain basically is Scratch. As far as I can tell, it's exactly what the 1.4 forums used to look like, except for the extra added notices saying "this is a read-only version". I'm not sure that it's approved by the Scratch Team, but I don't think it really matters.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 01:29, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
True, but that's what the ST uses to link to 1.4 topics.
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 01:30, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
I say just leave it. I don't think people are going to find inappropriate content on there.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 08:11, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
It's okay, I'm nice
blob8108 (talk | contribs) 09:02, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
xD. All hail the almighty Blob8108! He is here with his amazing words of encouragement! "I'm nice" xD.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 10:34, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm not almighty, I'm just here to serve ;-)
blob8108 (talk | contribs) 14:04, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
xD
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 22:11, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Talk Page Message Alerts

When someone leaves a message on your talk page, a banner appears above every wiki page you go to. Is there a way I can have a banner appear when another talk page is edited, such as the CP?

Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 21:51, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

simply watch a page the watch option is on the top right pencil menu
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:03, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm following the CP, but I never get that banner when someone leaves a message there?
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 07:52, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
oh sorry, i actually think the scratch 2.0 skin update changed it - i really forgot though
other than that there is no other way :(
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:47, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Awww ;(
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 06:43, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
No, that's not it. You never got banners for watchlist pages. You have go to Special:Watchlist to see changes on those pages.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 11:43, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── oh ok then, don't think there is another way
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 13:38, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Scripts Team

OK, so I was going to start an article about the scripts team (with the {{obsolete feature}} template). I asked before here, and I was told it would be OK. But now when I look at the page, it shows that it was deleted by Scmb1. So, is it OK to recreate the page? And, if so, is there anyway we could recover the deleted page?
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 08:26, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, you can ignore the warning in this situation. The Scripts Team page was deleted because it was no longer being used by the ST.
As for recovering the deleted page, admins can view the deleted page. I would imagine it would be better to write the page from the ground up instead though (due to different purpose, and hence, structure).
I'll put the deleted page into my user page in a moment.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 15:48, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
OK thanks!
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 22:13, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Here you go! User:ErnieParke/Temp/Scripts Team
Please message me on my talk page when you're done using the page. :)
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:03, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll use it as a base, but obviously a lot will need changing.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 06:40, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Templates and Extra Spaces. Glitch?

I find that in articles with templates, sometimes extra spaces are present, such as in this section. Is there a reason behind this? I am fairly certain that nothing is wrong with the article, and there didn't seem to be any extra spaces in the template's code when I viewed it.

Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 01:18, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

I've noticed that before, I don't understand it either.
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 14:14, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
I just noticed it, and after some experimentation, I think I know what's causing it. Let's take a look at the template code:
{{Header Template|[[File:Archive.png|40px]]|This article or section documents a feature not included in the current version of Scratch ([[Scratch 2.0|2.0]]). It is only useful from a historical perspective. {{#if:{{{1|}}}|For information on the feature that replaced this one, see [[{{{1}}}]].}}}}<noinclude>
{{/doc}}
[[Category:Templates|Obsolete feature]]</noinclude><br />
<includeonly>{{#ifeq:{{{cat}}}|no||[[Category:Articles about the past]]}}</includeonly>
Do you notice the <br />? What it does is create a new line. This is needed because without the br, text would be smushed onto the template. However, the br creates two new lines Why? The br creates one line, and the br also forces the includeonly to lose it's inline status, "making" a second line.
The solution to this problem is moving the br to the end of the template, so it doesn't force the includeonly to lose its inline status.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 16:22, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the fix! I'll look into some other templates that do the same.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 00:02, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Update: It appears that was not the issue... I'm currently doing some more testing to see what's causing this extra space.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:17, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Okay. Let us know when you figure it out. :D
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 00:32, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Also, with External Programs on Sixty-Second_Rule, there are extra spaces above the template. Is it because of the April Fool's Template?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 00:37, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I fixed the spacing of the obsolete feature template... finally.
As for the sixty second rule page, giving the april fool's template an entire line was what caused that problem. The fix was to put {{April Fools}} and {{External Programs}} onto the same line.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:13, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

What was the problem for the Obsolete template?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 01:17, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
I don't understand templates enough to understand what exactly was happening, but somehow a new line was being "created" somewhere in the template. Not knowing what was adding the new line, or how it was adding a new line (when it shouldn't), I decided to add an html comment (<!-- -->) between any places where a new line could be added, therefore removing the possibility that there could be a new line there.
For an example, look at the code for:

Hi! My name is Joe.


ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 13:15, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

FAQs

The FAQ pages are all very short. Would it be appropriate to combine them on one page, with each having a section? The existing pages could redirect to the corresponding section on the new page.

Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 03:21, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

I didn't realize this all ready existed. Sorry for the confusion!
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 01:13, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Two questions about elections

OK, so I was recently looking through here, and I just had two questions:

  • Are bureaucrats ever elected? Or are most bureaucrats part of the Scratch Team?
  • Are there any plans for another election soon? I know that there are only really 2, maybe 3 active admins (jvvg, ErnieParke, and Mathfreak231), and KrIsMa is the only real active EW. So is the kind of time when an election would be held, or not?

Thanks!
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 09:57, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

1. They are all from the Scratch Team or the original creators of the Wiki. We considered having an election, but scmb1 said it probably wasn't a good idea to add new bureaucrats that weren't from the ST. 2. So far, we don't have any plans. The current admins and EWs are able to handle pretty much all the issues that happen. We generally elect new ones when old ones start leaving, and the elections are usually not scheduled that far in advance. We usually hold them within a month or two of deciding we need one.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 13:08, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the answers!
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 22:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Blocked Users

On this page, all of the block log is censored, so you can't see who's been blocked. Yet, here, you can see if a user is blocked by the "(blocked)" at the end of their name. Shouldn't this be gone too?
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 10:58, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

If it does, then this will be gone too.
LeftoftheHeader.gif ♠BF10 talkcontributions 11:33, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
So that's where I saw that table. I knew that there was that table, but I couldn't remember where it was.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 11:42, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately there's really not much we can do about that. To my knowledge, there isn't any easy way in MediaWiki to hide block information, so we just hide what we can.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 13:04, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh OK
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 22:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Also, aren't users permanently banned from the Scratch website are banned from the wiki?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 00:08, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── no, only if they carry their disrespectful behavior onto the wiki.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:24, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

But, the reason for one ban reads "Accounts blocked on Scratch get blocked on the wiki".
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 02:43, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
In that case, the user was causing a lot of drama on the Wiki. However, please stop talking about specific cases, as that is not very Scratchy.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 11:04, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

New SDS

I apologize for so many messages, but I promise this is the last one. A new SDS has gone live, the link is here.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 11:46, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Done, and thank you! Having people post SDS and curator updates in the CP is so helpful, especially because then I learn about news the day it happens, instead of two days late.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 13:23, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
I did that already.
LeftoftheHeader.gif ♠BF10 talkcontributions 13:46, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
I was referring to updating the news.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 22:21, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Ah! That means I have to update the news on Scratch-Indo-Wiki too, thanks xD If only we (Scratch-Indo-Wiki) have people who reminds us too like on the English-Wiki! :P
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 08:37, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
xP
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 10:32, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

How do I?

How do I reply to something or make a new comment on a talk page?
Coke11 (talk | contribs) 13:08, 20 September 2015 (UTC)coke11

To reply to someone, type a colon to indent, 2 colons to indent twice, etc. For example, I put a colon right before these words. If you were to reply to me, you'd put 2 colons, and so on. And I think you know how to make a new comment on a talk page considering you just did.
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 14:23, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
To leave a new comment, click the pencil menu and then "comment". To reply to a comment, click "[Edit]" next to the header for the discussion you want to reply to, then follow Rollercoasterfan's steps above. See Help:Talk Page for details.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:46, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

How do I leave a link?

I am trying to figure out how to leave a link on the scratch wiki but I can't. Could anyone help me? If you could that you be great!
Coke11 (talk | contribs) 13:10, 20 September 2015 (UTC)coke11

If I want to make a link to the article about ScratchX I could do this: [[ScratchX]] which gives this: ScratchX
If I want to link to the same article but I want it to say Here, I could do this: [[ScratchX|here]] which gives this: Here
If I want to link to my profile, I could do this: [https://scratch.mit.edu/users/rollercoasterfan Here] which gives this: Here
Hope I helped!
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 14:29, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
We also have a bunch of stuff at Help:Links to explain what you can do to make a link.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:47, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Ideas for Scratch Logo AF page

Please delete if it doesn't fit here. But,

I only have one logo for it, and I need ideas for more. If you have an idea, please tell me. I don't want it to literally be a stub.
LeftoftheHeader.gif ♠BF10 talkcontributions 14:39, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Featured Image and Article Suggestions

If you have any suggestions on articles or images that should be featured, please post them below! A list of previously featured articles can be found here link.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 19:59, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

There are some suggestions here. But personally, I think a good article to feature would be New Scratcher, since it's a question I see so many people asking about.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 10:28, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"

Scratch-wiki-watch-logo.png

After presenting at de:Scratch2015AMS (see [2]) (and before at de:Scratch2013BCN see[3]) we have some just starting International Scratch Wikis. We found out, that there is much more work, than me de:user:Mtwoll, de:user:LiFaytheGoblin and de:user:akhof can handle.

We just started international Scratch-Wikis were sure that there are Scratchers of that language that would really work hard for their Scratch-Wiki, but it seems that those people all need help, coaching and motivation, to cope with the problems of a just started Wiki: It seems that only id: is completely on the right track until now (Thanks to id:user:Rumanti, who made a great start and motivated some other Indonesian Scartchers to help). ru: is also evolving slowly but there seem to be too less active authors with just ru:user:Dimon4ezzz and ru:user:Timkoiko. With ja: we have great hopes in ja:user:Jp86143 and ja:user:Abee who just started. But hu: and nl: are still in a kind of "starting position".

In opposite to the English and German Scratch-wiki the starting Scratch-Wiki-Authors have no templates and existing articles where they can look up what is needed and mostly less experiance in Wikimedia-Syntax. Also some of them have problems with the English language: Naturally they know it, but everything lasts longer with misunderstandings and so on. (My English isn't perfect either, but where is a will there is a way ;-) Ironically the language-communities that have the biggest problems with English language need a Scratch-Wiki the most. Imagine the English Scratch-Wiki had nearly zero articles and templates and you could only see other wikis in languages that you know only a little bit. Also imagine that your Scratch community was not so big than the english-language one (see Wikipedia: World_language#Living world languages).

How would you start? Therefore I'm asking you for your help: Who of you wants to get „International Scratch Wiki Coach "? You would get an account and perhaps also admin-rights at all existing international wikis (depending on your activity). You should be an experienced Scratch-Wiki author in the English Wiki (>1 year membership and >300 edits?). We already have some de:Scratch-Wiki:Team_Mitglieder#Interwiki Autoren but that's only Interwiki, not coaching. It would really be great, if some of the English Scratch-Wiki-Admins would also apply for this job: They would immediately get Admin rights at all other international Wikis and perhaps also FTP-rights, if they are experienced with that "under the hood"-stuff. To see what goes on, we have made de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch. There are also many other ideas from the International Scratch-Wiki-Community (e.g. automized-account-application everywere, multinational-accounts like in Wikipedia, international templates, Scratch-Projects inside the Scratch-Wiki like we have it in DACH, international Blocks Plugin support, #Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis ?, conecting scratch-wikis as a part of the scratch-editor-help…)...

...but let's begin with the beginning :-) Who wants to help and applies for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:16, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Nice idea! I was wondering - some people join specialized wikis because that is the only language they know - such as someone only knowing Japanese on the Japanese wiki. How will we coach and communicate with those people?
Or maybe, we could talk to everyone on their community portal?
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 13:40, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
With the first generation of international scratch wiki authors communicating in english is not alway "no problem" but alway possible. Most Scratch-Wikis don't have a communityportal until now, but we could use a Scratch-Forum-Thread to make sure that everybody can answer, independent of his membership in certain scratch-wikis.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 14:32, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
If there is ever a Wiki in Spanish, I could help out.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:53, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
great! just wondering, so one of your ideas is a forum on the wiki that allows all members of the wiki from all wikis on scratch to talk? good idea! we can also put a link somewhere on the individual wikis to allow them to find the forum. then, if people need help, we can create pages or help them on the wiki with admin powers. interesting!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:25, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
I'll try to help the Russian wiki. I've not had time at all in the past many months, so I'll try to help it grow if I have time.
TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 19:49, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
This sounds interesting. I seem quite a bit of time in my schedule, and I've helped the DACH Wiki find Scratchers to make International Wikis before, so I do have some experience. (Even if it's not enough experience to set up a mobile skin or to do FTP.) I volunteer.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:22, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

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Individual Threads with scratch-wiki-authors that want to help

@User:TheHockeyist: Thank you very much for helping with ru:. You already have an account there: ru:Special:ListUsers. I hope you don't mind that I interwiki-linked it to your account here? (I just saw that jvvg reverted it, so please feel free to “Re-Revert” it if you like. Excuse me for doing that minor link-change to you userpage, I just wanted to help, but jvvg is right: It’s better to obey strictly to all rules to avoid any conflicts). Do you still have the login to your ru: account or should I tell the wiki to resend you a password?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

@user:MartinWollenweber: I don't mind if you linked the Russian interwiki to my userpage, however you do that. I still have the login information written down on my computer, and so that isn't a problem. I'm happy to help out in any way that I can.
TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 13:20, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Great! Thank you very much for helping. I'm looking forward to you - as an experienced scratch-wiki-author - helping the other Russian authors so the Russian Scratch-Wiki could evolve much faster. I can't believe that it hasn't got a Homepage similar to Scratch_Wiki_Home, like de: or id:. BTW: The source code of Scratch_Wiki_Home is really hard to read, we use de:template:Scratchwikiframe at de: to make more readable. Perhaps that's better than a "copy-transfer-translate" of Scratch_Wiki_Home, so we choose an english name for that template and copied it already to all international wikis. ( ru:template:Scratchwikiframe , nl:template:Scratchwikiframe , hu:template:Scratchwikiframe , id:template:Scratchwikiframe )
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:25, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Well, I'm not too good with templates, sorry. About the best I can do is images and links. I'm looking forward to mostly expanding the wiki, and I'm a fast learner. (Wow, this sounds like a resume...)
TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 22:27, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm really looking forward to your work at the ru:-Scratch-Wiki!
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:37, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. I'm planning to start tomorrow unless I get distracted.
TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 19:34, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

@user:KrIsMa: Thank you for your interest and ideas. There is no exact plan how to connect a forum to the wikis until now. Perhaps like this here:de:user:Mtwoll/Sandbox2 ? Will you take part or are you as "International Scratch Wiki Coach" or just as an interested observer?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

I brought up the Wiki suggestion because I thought it would be a great addition; it will allow other users from other wikis to communicate with one another :) I can suggest a separate forum for Scratch Wiki members to scmb1.. Sure, I'll participate! I just need to set up the French Wiki as well
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 14:49, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm happy that you want to take part as "International Scratch Wiki Coach": Could you send you eMail to mtwoll[at]gmail[dot]com so I can create accounts at all international scratch-wikis for you? If not sure about that ask User:ErnieParke. I had a look at your profile and saw that you are specialized in User:KrIsMa/Templates: That's something really missing at the international scratch-wikis. Problem is, that templates can't be just copied from the English-wiki, because they are connected with the language. At the other side there is mostly no "template-specialist" at the starting wikis, what makes it very hard for them to start. Perhaps we can find a way, e.G. a mixture between English and native-language templates? I'm also thinking about a way to connect forums with wiki better. I didn't understand your sentence: "I just need to set up the French Wiki as well": Until now we (the DACH-Scratch-Wiki people) set up and hosted all intentional wikis, when a language community had enough people to start and asked us for help...
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:44, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
oh hi, I just mean that I need to start the forum to start the french wiki
i think the most important thing in this is actually a good chat medium, or a good place to talk to each other. we can use the cp for the individual wikis, and the forums or something like that for communicating to all other wikis.
also, sure ill send you an email.
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 21:43, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Ok, before I do that, a question. I am a bit worried about the language barrier. I know I can help the English people in the other wikis make their templates. But, it might be faster to do it ourselves (because some of the wikis are slow to start). Do you think it might be a bit inefficient?
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 21:49, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
see above: (most important to make a start): Could you send you eMail to mtwoll[at]gmail[dot]com so I can create accounts at all international scratch-wikis for you? If not sure about that ask User:ErnieParke.
language barrier: I thought weeks to find a solution for the "hen egg problem" - "They can't start without templates - they will never build templates without starting". I think I found a solution now: We should copy all English templates, including the pictures used, to the new wikis and inter-wiki-link them. This could best be done by a bot. So you can also copy any article from the English wiki without loosing the layout and start to translate it to the language of the Wiki. As time goes by the text-parts of the templates could also be translated, than the documentation and at last the template-name can be transferred to the language (including renaming all occurrences) . I think if we do it the other way round only people who try it really very hard and with lots of passion (like us in the DACH-Scratch Wiki ;-) will be successful and it will last very long in any case: In DACH we invented most templates new in our German language and our own system, but the advantage to have native "hand made" templates is not as big as the disadvantage to start with nothing: We still haven't many good templates used in the English wiki. What do you think? Should we start with a few test-templates? Who could build the bot that we would need?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:31, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Ok I have sent the email :) Also, I am not sure that User:VoxBot will have anything to help on the other wikis.?
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:19, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Your accounts to the international scratch-wikis are created. Does everything work? I agree, User:VoxBot will not directly help with the international wikis, but it shows that his developer is really good in bots and wiki-work and that will help a lot :-). Meantime I had an idea that could help a lot: see [#New Idea for the future of international Scratch-Wiki or even more]. What do you think?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 19:05, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

@User:ErnieParke: Great! As I already got your e-mail-address I will create accounts at all scratch-wikis for you. You will get your passwords in separate mails (we don't have multi-accounts like in Wikipedia until now, so they are all separate). Please go to all your international userpages and link them by Interwiki. Did it Work?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Everything alright Ernie? Did you receive the mails? Could you lock in? We sometimes had a problem with that "wiki-create-new-user-and-send-him-random-password"-function and had to do a reset-password-and-send before it work. Or did it work directly? You can set the wiki-language to english after you loged in by using ru:Special:Preferences, id:Special:Preferences...and so on (see de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:41, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
@MartinWollenweber: I remember awhile ago I made Java code for a bot that (with some tweaking) could work in other languages. The only problem is the bot can't log in, and it can't commit any changes. I imagine that I can build those functions in, although it would be really nice if I could host a local copy of a Wiki for testing purposes. Maybe you have an idea on how to do that? I'll try looking around.
Yes, copying over templates sounds like a good solution, assuming it can be done.
Let me look at the emails.... I just logged into the Hungarian Scratch Wiki, so it looks like everything is working.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:28, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
It would be great if you manage it to get this bot to go. Perhaps we should ask people that are experienced with bots like user:jvvg? His WikiMonitor-bot seems really to be sophisticated. I will ask de:user:akhof to set up a test-scratch-wiki, so no wiki get's crashed while testing the bot.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 08:39, 26 September 2015 (UTC)


@user:jvvg: We would urgently need an experienced admin like you, to help us with all international scratch-wikis. We even would set up a Spanish wiki just to convince you to help with international wikis in general. We have nobody programming wiki-bots or other skripts like you do and that could be very helpful with international wikis (e.g. Interewiki-bot that sets all missing that could be constructed by the existing ones, like it is uses in Wikipedia, or the code for the user-registration-procedure). You've proved your knowledge, experience and reliability for so many years here that I would suggest to give you FTP-rights to the international wikis, if you are interested. What do you think? Would you help us in general even before we set up a Spanish Scratch-Wiki?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:15, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I am definitely interested in this. In terms of getting my code to work on other Wikis, my account requesting extension should be relatively portable and if I could have someone do the necessary translation for me for each Wiki, that would be great (a lot of the stuff was translated into various languages in the original extension I based it on, but I did add a bunch of stuff). For bots, I could make WikiMonitor work on pretty much any Wiki. The messages are actually stored on the Wiki and the page just needs to be edited as necessary.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:44, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Forum Thread: Scratch Wiki in Your Native Language

@All: Am I right that all of you know this Forum Thread? Diskussionsforen » Translating Scratch » Scratch Wiki in Your Native Language (New)] . user:ErnieParke created it and sort of curates it (Tank you very much Ernie!). There are some other language communities that could be ready to start with their own native wiki in the future.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs)

New Idea for the future of international Scratch-Wiki or even more

Perhaps there is a solution for the big Challenges we have to cope with International Scratch Wikis. Perhaps this system could even be a solution for Scratch Wikis Authorship in general.

Challenges

  • It's a lot of work for us to set up a new scratch-wiki in a certain language (like e.G. http://jp.scratch-wiki.info for Japanese)
  • It's frustrating for us to do this work and see that nearly no one uses that wiki after a few weeks
  • But we are (with reason) afraid, that people tell us, they want to make a start, but loose interest after a few edits
  • To solve this problem , we made lots of restrictions for starting (prove that you are a group >4 people, know Scratch, prove that you will take it serious....)
  • Those restrictions surely sometimes kept of people that could have been successful if we only had given them a chance to prove it
  • Its also frustrating for potential authors to wait so long for a start, or to here "no, we don't believe you could be successful because..."
  • On the other hand, some people could overcome those restrictions without been successful afterwards
  • So this restriction produce to lots of work with negative effect

Solution:

  • We set up a test-scratch-wiki ( test.scratch-wiki.info like http://jp.scratch-wiki.info ) were everybody is allowed to start with nearly no restrictions
  • Here everybody can start to build articles of his native language and can find out and prove, if he or she is able to build a wiki (including a wiki community of their language that is strong enough to create a future for their own scratch-wiki)
  • To separate the languages in the test-wiki, we use "test.scratch-wiki.info/wiki:[language-code]/[article-name] e.G. "test.scratch-wiki.info/wiki:it/Scratch1.4" for the "Scratch1.4"-Article in Italian language.
  • Only after we see, that the language group is successful and has about let's say 50 acceptably articles in their language, including a proper homepage, we will set up their own wiki of that language and will give all active authors an account for it, so they can transfer their articles there: And voilà - We have a new pretty running international scratch wiki with nearly no work and no frustration for us and for the authors
  • We could combine this qualification-system with the idea of transferring all the English templates there too, to make it more easy to start...it could even be more easy: We could transfer a complete copy of the English Wiki there, because the other languages have their own wiki-spaces
  • To show that this is only a test-wiki it can have a warning and a special color in it's skin (like "This is only a test wiki, the original wiki is here"). And it surly should have no Interwiki to the other wikis..
  • The idea could be enlarged with different automation for creating accounts and transferring material and even deleting articles of authors that didn't edit for a certain amount of time ("self-cleaning-ability")
  • This system could also be used for the qualification of new wiki-authors in general: Let them prove that they are able and willing, before they come, do two or three edits and than leave again. That's makes the qualification-process more easy and harder at the same time.
  • There could be a system that tests, if you got a scratch-account, some projects, some time been Scratcher and so on...but no questions like "are you serious"..

What do you think? Are their additional ideas or suggestions?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 18:08, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

language linking is pretty fun and i'd love to help out any way i can
i know admin stuff and i know how to connect to an FTP server but i've never actually seen what a wiki looks like on an FTP server
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:21, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal?

Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal? In de:Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal it is no problem (but in and id:Pembicaraan_Scratch-Indo-Wiki:Portal_Komunitas it seems to be, just tried it...).
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 14:00, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Hmm.. Does the CP needs interwiki(s)? Because I didn't see any interwiki in this CP.
Really_A (talk | contribs) 23:34, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Interwiki at cp only means that the cp's of all Scratch-Wikis would have a language-link box, so you could switch between them fast and find them without knowing the language (like Interwiki in any article). Surely it only helps you if you have a lttle knowledge of the other language, or if they use english for some threads (what we often do in DACH because we have some non-german-speaking authors that help us). If you put [[:de|Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal]] in the cp here (that should create the Interwiki-Link to Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal) it has not that effect like in an article, because cp is somehow special configurated.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:44, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh I see. Anyway, I have a question; should I add an interwikis to the Indo wiki?
Really_A (talk | contribs) 14:44, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
id: already has Interwiki, as you can see in multiple articles that have a language-link in the language-Box to other Scratch-Wikis (like the Homepage). See Scratch_Wiki:Interwiki for explanation of Interwiki. But you can look for possibly missing Interwiki-Links.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:46, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Well, I see. But the indo's CP still doesn't has any interwiki.

Glitch?

In special pages that list users (Special:ActiveUsers, Special:ListUsers), whenever there's a username that has a _, it becomes a space. Anyone know why?
Ev3commander (talk | contribs) 17:09, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

yes, it's a known glitch - the glitch also affects the username when users request an account!!
KrIsMa Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:18, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Because of the way the Wiki works, it always converts underscores to spaces. This is to fit in with page naming conventions, which is also why all usernames are capitalized, including my own.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:00, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
And it can't be fixed...
LeftoftheHeader.gif ♠BF10 talkcontributions 03:38, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

FPC(s) starting after @hemkernator

Starting on September 28 is @olivegranger

Starting on October 5 is @Ellesong

From here
Ev3commander (talk | contribs) 23:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Yep! They're choosing new FPCs quickly now...
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 05:02, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Looks like October 12's curator won't come until 2 weeks.
LeftoftheHeader.gif ♠BF10 talkcontributions 03:37, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
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